The Young Turks - Is Trump Racist?

Episode Date: July 5, 2018

A portion of our Young Turks Main Show from July 3, 2018. For more go to http://www.tytnetwork.com/join.  Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian. Half the country thinks Trump is racist. Cenk predicts a Kaniela I...ng victory in Hawaii. Rep Jim Jordan accused of covering up sexual abuse allegations. White House tried to hide military drinking water crisis. Teacher confronts Scott Pruitt while dining at a restaurant. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 How are you? I'm Jane Cougar. I host a show called The Young Turks. That's the one you're watching right now. Okay, fun show ahead for you guys. Is Twitter right wing? Interesting. Which then might explain why they allow the alt-right and racist, et cetera,
Starting point is 00:01:22 to reign all over Twitter in a couple of different ways. And a very famous actor makes that. charge to some degree. So anyway, we'll talk about that a little bit later. Scott Pruitt's in a world of trouble as usual, which of course makes Trump like him more. We will talk about that. And then a huge sexual harassment and actually worse, sexual assault and rape charges that are not about a Republican official, but that do relate to him, whether he covered it up or not. That's coming up a little bit later in the show. But I've got a show show show show segment to start for you guys, and then we're Anna's going to come in. So let's start
Starting point is 00:02:00 are two fun little stories. Let's go over here. We were going to do that one second. Yeah, thank you. Okay, a new poll out from Kudyipiac about Donald Trump. It's got some really bad news for him. It's got a little bit of good news for it, which I find to be super frustrating. We'll get to that in a second. And then it ends with disaster. So it's a fun roller coaster ride. Let's go on that ride. So first, easy peasy, first question is, do you approve of them or don't you? And the answer is a resounding, no, we do not. Fifty five to 40, Americans disapprove of Donald Trump. From time to time, Donald Trump brags about this, because he's like, oh, yeah, I'm doing great, my approval numbers are up. And they did go up to one poll at one time
Starting point is 00:02:50 had them at 45%. That's really bad. You're supposed to be above 50%. And if you're below 50%, it's underwater, and that means your presidency's heading in the wrong direction. But for Trump, it was never headed in the right direction. But he had gone into some of the polls into the low 40s, and he started to high step, which is hilarious, right? But now he's back down to 40, and he's going to keep on going down. He's been lower, and he will be lower.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But understand the context, because everybody thinks the regular rules of politics and the world have been suspended since Donald Trump is president. and that the president doesn't have to be popular and that it won't hurt his party and it won't hurt him if he's going up for a reelection. Yes, it will. Math still exists. He was just running against an incredibly unpopular candidate last time. These are disastrous numbers.
Starting point is 00:03:41 All right, but it gets way worse. So is he honest? No, 58 to 38% say he is not honest. That's gigantic difference and obviously true. That number should be way, by the way. I mean, that's 38%. Have you ever heard Donald Trump? But still, good number overall for people who are rational.
Starting point is 00:04:03 55 to 43 say he does not have good leadership skills. Every one of these numbers should be near 100%. But yes, overall good. Most people get it. He's not a good manager. He's an idiot. Well, no, I shouldn't say that. Hold, hold for that number.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But they don't think he's a good manager, okay? 55 to 43 say that he does not care about the average American. Tell you, man, for any president, these are terrible numbers. 62 to 34, don't believe him when he say he's a very stable genius. They say he is not level-headed. 62 to 34. So not a good sign for the president of the United States and the commander-in-chief. If by almost a 30-point margin in the country thinks you are not level-headed or stable, let alone a genius.
Starting point is 00:04:47 But again, hold for that depressing fact on what people think of his intelligence. Okay, 60 to 37% say he does not share their values. Disaster on top of disaster. One last one of the disastrous sort before we get to the worst of the worst and the best of the best. 62 to 36 say he does not provide the U.S. with moral leadership. To which I say, of course, of course he doesn't. What part of Donald Trump is moral? Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:05:15 And even his own supporters. Now, a lot of them, that 36% is pretty much immovable. Like, oh, Donald Trump, he's super moral on one planet. But it doesn't matter because overwhelming majority of countries say, no, he does not provide moral leadership. That's preposterous. Even some of his own supporters go, I support him, but he does not provide moral leadership. Okay. Now, here's the two depressing ones.
Starting point is 00:05:40 63 to 32% say that he is a strong person. Oh, Democrats, you're the worst. Now, why do you think Donald Trump keeps talking about how great he is? You know, I have the best words. In fact, of course, legendarily, you know, I'm like a smart person. I'm like a smart person. He just put out a tweet saying, I'm a very stable genius. There's two things that I'm really good at in life.
Starting point is 00:06:06 One is being mentally stable. Who says that? Only a lunatic says that. If someone said that to you at a bar, you would run for your life. Hey, how you doing? Did you know one of the top two qualities I have is that I'm very mentally stable. No one would stay at the bar, right? He's the president.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Anyway, and his second great quality, he claimed was that he was really smart. Now, why does a person act out like that? Because they're deeply insecure. He never makes fun of himself. He's never self-effacing because he's afraid that people might find out. It's true. He does nothing but insane bragging because he's deeply insecure. You know why?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Because he's not actually strong. And the minute anyone strong shows up, he coweres like every bully there is. But the Democrats are so pathetically weak that they're, they, the American people have him at 31% advantage on strong person. And by the way, don't get me wrong, I get why. He does bully people and he does come out and, you know, is super aggressive. So I'm not shocked by that number. Of course I get it.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Can't stand the Democrats that they couldn't bring that number down. Let me add them, Oz, okay? Now, the one that's really depressing, 57 to 39 say that he is in fact intelligent. Ah, okay, forget the Democratic Party. They're the worst already. Those established from people Hillary Clinton said that they don't know how to fight them, right? But I despair of the American people, that you listen to a guy who says, you know, I'm like a smart person. you think, oh yeah, yeah, because smart people go around all the time saying, I'm like a smart
Starting point is 00:07:47 person. He said that two different times, and then he tweeted it. He wrote out, I'm like a smart person. To be fair, so did Einstein. No, he didn't. Einstein never said that because he was actually smart. How do you look at Donald Trump and think he's smart? And so the sickness that unfortunately has befallen this country is that if you're rich or pretending to be rich, people will say, well, he must be strong, he must be smart. I mean, he's rich, he must be smart. He inherited $200 million from his dad. If you inherited $200 million from your dad, you would also have a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And what's frustrating is that people would be like, oh, yeah, Bob, he's really smart, man. Did you see the way that his dad died and gave him the money? He banked Trump bankrupted himself six times, which I'm pretty sure you wouldn't do if your dad gave you $200 million. But by a margin of nearly 20 points, 18 points. Americans think that he is intelligent. Oh, that is so, so sad. Now, I told you there would be bad news for him, good news for him. We were through all that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Now comes the truly disastrous news forum. According to this poll, Quinnipiac poll, very respected organization, President Trump is racist. 49% of voters say, while 47% say that he is not racist. That's an unbelievable number. Now, if you're out there and you don't like Trump and you know all the things, that he's done, Central Park 5, the birth of conspiracy, the constant dehumanization of Latinos, Muslims, et cetera, you think that number should be higher.
Starting point is 00:09:20 But look, guys, not everybody lives in your bubble or in your context or in your particular group, right? For a majority of Americans, or at least a strong plurality of Americans, for 49% of Americans to say that the president of the United States is racist. For most Americans, that's a very, very heavy word. And I think that we use it appropriately on Trump and on others who actually discriminate against people of different races. That's kind of the definition.
Starting point is 00:09:54 But the average American is very reluctant to use that word. So for 49% to say yes, the president is racist, that's amazing and disastrous for Trump. I mean, how do you vote for a guy if you think he's racist? if you think he's such a bad guy that he hates other people of other races. So this whole idea that, oh, Trump is above the laws of physics and math is simply not anywhere near true. This guy is deeply, deeply unpopular. And one last thing that's important for the country is that voters say by a margin of 55 to 39,
Starting point is 00:10:30 that Trump has emboldened people who hold racist beliefs to express those beliefs publicly. That's a 14 point margin for Americans saying, not only is the president racist, but whether I think he is one or not, he's definitely emboldening racist. So look, some folks might look at that and still go, yeah, I know, but if you're rich, my paycheck went up. If you're not, it didn't, but maybe one day it will. Or yeah, he's racist, but so am I. And a lot of those people will vote for him.
Starting point is 00:11:04 But I can't imagine that it's such a huge percentage of those people that'll vote for him. So he starts out in a hole if he's around in 2020, that is very hard to climb out of. If half the country thinks you're a racist, it's pretty hard to get elected. But on the other hand, probably a good number of those folks thought that even before the election, and the Democratic establishment found a way to lose to him anyway. I wonder how they poll on intelligent. not very high. Okay. Now, I'm gonna let me go to a story about progressives. Kanyella Ng is a wonderful progressive out of Hawaii. I've told you guys about him before.
Starting point is 00:11:49 When he was 23 years old, he started to run for office. He was a trainer at a gym. And he'd work all morning at the gym, and then he'd go and knock on doors. He lived in a district, the only district in Hawaii that was actually heavily Republican represented at the state level by a Tea Party Republican, and he, that incumbent would win comfortably. And nobody thought he had any chance at all. Of course, nobody was paying any mind to Kanye Leying. And he went and knocked on every door three times. I mean, the work ethic of this guy is unreal.
Starting point is 00:12:23 He shocked Hawaii by winning that district and winning it by a large margin. Well, here we are again. Now he's running for the United States House of Representatives from Hawaii. in the first district, and he finds himself in a significant deficit and not a lot of time to make it up. He is now polling fourth in that race. So there are three largely establishment Democrats in front of him. One Democrat who was a Republican a year ago, why don't we elect Democrats for Democratic positions? So now, of course, people are beginning to write up. off again. Well, he can't win. The election's on August 11th, so that's only five weeks
Starting point is 00:13:10 from now. And he's in fourth place. And look, I'll give you more stats that are not positive for him. He's 18 points behind. So I'm going to do something crazy here. I am predicting a victory for Kanyella Ing. Even though he's in fourth place right now, I predict he will finish in first place, five weeks from now. Now, why am I predicting this? Because I believe Kanyele is an excellent candidate, and I think excellent candidates show their true medal in times like this. I believe that he has the right attitude in terms of working hard and making sure that you actually reach the voters, not through having more money.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He is a just Democrat. He does not take any corporate PAC money, but by actually going knocking on doors, making phone calls, believing in your volunteers, believing in your staff. Number two, I think that progressive issues do exceedingly well if you do reach those voters. I know through other campaigns of Justice Democrats across the country, when you actually get someone on the phone and you tell them just Democratic positions, which are deeply progressive, Medicare for All, getting all money out of politics, higher minimum wage, hey, college education for your kids, American dream, they can live it too, it's not just for the rich.
Starting point is 00:14:28 The amount that that moves people, just giving them one position is stunning. Sometimes it moves voters to a six to one margin in favor of the progressive candidate. So then that leads us to point number three. Yes, he's got the winning issues, he's got the winning attitude. But can he reach enough voters without having the money advantage? Well, that's where I think I'm encouraged by what just Democrats have done in Alexandria Acacia Cortez's race and what we have learned in all of these races through the wins and the losses.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I believe that they now have a winning strategy that can reach those voters. So we're gonna find out if I'm right. But when you put those three things together, even though he is significantly down now and in fourth place, I believe he will close that gap and he will win this race. The great thing about this is we get to find out together. So we will continue to cover that race and we will have it for you. the night of August 11th, when we cover elections live, we will cover his. And you get to find out if I'm right or if I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Does he close that 18 point lead? Can he pull it off? I think politics is an amazing thing. And I know how far down Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was. At one point was down 35 points, and she came back in one. I believe, and as you saw with your own eyes, I think there was very good reason. I believe. Now, if you want to support Conella Ng, here are his links. Conella ing.com is his website. If you're watching this on YouTube or Facebook, just go to the description box,
Starting point is 00:16:11 click on the links down below to volunteer because that is what wins elections. We have seen it with our own eyes. We've done it. And you guys have participated in that. And then small dollar donations carry these progressive candidates because they are the uncorrupted. Takes no corporate pack money. So it's on us together to make this happen. Luckily, we've done it before. All right, I'm going to take a quick break, come back with scandal after scandal about Republicans. We'll be right back. Back on a young Turks, Jake Huger, Anna Kasparian. Hey, how you doing, Anna?
Starting point is 00:16:48 All right, good to see you. All right, Batman Swagons writes in on YouTube Super Chat. just became a member on a note you made yesterday. I know why the media hates Amloh, that's Oberdor, who just won the Mexican elections. He announced that he will pay, he will not pay the 10 billion pesos the current president paid the media to promote his image. So that's true in America as well, but we just do it a slightly different, right? Apparently in Mexico, and I didn't know about this, the president pays the media to promote him, which doesn't quite seem right.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Okay, but in America we raise our politicians raise billions of dollars from private interests and then handed over to television stations in the form of TV ads and then TV ads, I'm sorry, the TV stations then funny enough say those politicians are awesome and money in politics is not a problem Funny how that works corruption either way, but thank you for joining us Batman. I like that you heated our signal TYT.com slash join to become a member, support progressive causes, and get all the progressive shows. I'll tell you about that in a sec. Jim Lawrence says on YouTube super chat, why don't we primary vulnerable Republicans too? Actually, there's a group called Brand New Congress, and that was their idea. Primary, both Democrats and Republicans, I think it's a hard thing to pull out because I don't want anything to do with the Republicans. But I hear you, brother.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Okay. Mariahashi says, don't jank's the election results. Damn, damn. Look, look. Using your name is a verb. That happened. Okay, so look, guys, the Kanyele-A-hing thing, if you notice, I didn't go on the record. I know that I'm the only one who cares about this, but to predict the victories of any of the other just Democrats and not even Ocasio, right?
Starting point is 00:18:36 And he's so far down, why bother doing it? Again, we're going to get to find out if I'm right or wrong, and it's not an easy thing at all to come from forth. to finish in first with only five weeks left to go, right? Because I want to show you guys that I believe that there is a way to win these elections. And we'll see if I'm right about that. And so it's not Monday morning quarterbacking is telling you ahead of time. All right, I.M. Sachs says 49% think he's racist referring to Trump. That means there's a lot of people on the right who are admitting that he's a racist and like
Starting point is 00:19:05 him because he's a racist. I don't know about that last part, but it is important that you've got Republicans now saying obviously some percentage of them going, yeah, I know. He is racist, right? And 90% of them still do support him to be fair to IM sock. Last one, Captain Jigl Pant says, if Trump wasn't born rich, he'd never be rich without a lucky lotto ticket. Does anyone think that that moron?
Starting point is 00:19:29 And the answer is unfortunately yes, because we're so blinded by the current, like, if you have money now, you must be awesome. But you watch that guy in TV and you think that guy would have figured out how to run a business? He couldn't make money running a casino. No, it's amazing, it's amazing. All right, anyway, so I wanna tell you guys about some new shows that we're launching on YouTube TV. One is called Reasonably Sure. Best show name to ever exist.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It's with Michael Shore. Best show name to ever exist. Okay, I love that name, I love that name. We had a huge debate about whether to do that name or not. I voted yes, luckily I have a lot of votes here. Anyway, smart mouth is a great show. Two women having both fun and political and current events conversations. Rebel Headquarters is now going on to YouTube TV.
Starting point is 00:20:21 We've been doing that show for months, but now the YouTube TV audience gets to see those great progressive candidates and issues as well. And the Jimmy Doors show also going on YouTube TV as well. So if you want to get YouTube TV, go to TYt.com slash YouTube TV. Now, obviously on YouTube TV, it's not just the Young Turks who are one of about 50 channels or so, World Cups on there, NBA Championships, ESPN. No filter is on there. Yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:20:49 One of the best shows on the network. Damage report by John Iderola. Also a great show. Okay, and all the other news channels are there. CNN, MS, NBC, Fox News, ABC, CBS, NBC. They're all there, and it's, I think, $40, which is way lower than you're capable. So what's next to handle? All right.
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Starting point is 00:23:05 Representative Jim Jordan of Ohio is facing some serious accusations. Back in April, Ohio State University launched an investigation into sexual assault and molestation allegations that were against a former doctor at the university. It was an athletics doctor who actually is no longer alive. He committed suicide years ago. But these accusations were directed toward Dr. Strauss, and the argument is that Representative Jim Jordan was an assistant wrestling coach at the university at the time. He knew what was going on and refused to do anything about it, and today denies ever knowing
Starting point is 00:23:53 anything about it. So let me make the case, and this is based on an investigation done by NBC News. Resslers actually spoke to NBC and are now cooperating with investigators in this case. Now, Representative Jim Jordan, the Republican Congressman from Ohio, is being accused by former wrestlers. He coached more than two decades ago at Ohio State University of failing to stop the team doctor from molesting them and other students. I also want to be clear, this doctor not only treated athletes from the wrestling team,
Starting point is 00:24:27 but from several other teams at the university as well. across many different sports. We'll get to that in just a minute. The university announced that it was investigating accusations that Dr. Richard Strauss, who died in 2005, abused team members when he was the team doctor from the mid-1970s to late 1990s. So I'm gonna have the specific allegations by former wrestlers in just a minute, but, Cenk, I wanted you to jump in and, you know. Yeah, so first off, I'm a little surprised by their naivete on this.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I don't mean about the sexual harassment, about Jim Jordan denying the charges, that he knew anything about the doctor abusing the kids. One former wrestler said, it's sad for me to hear that he's denying this. I don't know why he would unless it's a cover-up. Now, I want you to understand this context, and this is both in favor of Jim Jordan and against him. Almost all the wrestlers that talked to NBC News said that they really like Jim Jordan. That they loved him. Yeah. And so I can't see that.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I think Jim Jordan's a terrible guy, and I don't agree with him politically, but it's not just that. I think as he goes to destroy the rule of law in this country, he's one of the most conservative members of Congress and one of the most loyal to Donald Trump, and in fact, attacks his political opponents with vengeance. And so- He's also the founder of the House Freedom Caucus, which is the most conservative group of Congress members. Yeah, but to be fair to him, and we always report the story as it is.
Starting point is 00:25:58 These former wrestlers say that they liked him, they loved them. One of them said, I love Jimmy to death. They said they had great conversations with him back when he was the assistant coach. So that's part of the story. But they all then turn around and go, but why is he lying about this? We knew, everybody knew that the doctor was molesting the kids. And Jim Jordan knew. In fact, apparently, according to one of the former wrestlers, Jordan even said he'd kill him if he tried anything with him.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So he told Strauss, I'll kill you if you try anything with me. But the kids, they're fair game. Have Adenos. Now, look, to be fair, he didn't say that last part. But that goes to the naivete of the former wrestlers, which my heart goes out to them. But they're like, why is Jim Jordan lying about this? Guys, if he admitted it, he'd have to say, yeah, I'm a really conservative guy who runs on family values. And I knew those kids were being molested.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And I did nothing about it. Right. Well, that's devastating. And it would be devastating for anyone in any profession, right? Especially as a public figure to admit that you were complicit in what was going on. So let me give you some of the details of the accusations and what these former wrestlers had to say about Representative Jordan. So Mike D. Sabato is one of the former wrestlers. He's one of the more outspoken individuals who, by the way, reached out to Representative Jordan.
Starting point is 00:27:19 And there's evidence of an email where he reached out to him and asked him to, participate or cooperate with this investigation to really speak out. And Representative Jordan did not respond to it and has denied ever knowing anything about these accusations. So here's what Di Sabato said. I consider Jim Jordan a friend. But at the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn't know what was going on.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Another former wrestler who wished to remain anonymous told NBC News, I love Jimmy to death. It was a head scratcher to me why he would say he didn't. didn't know anything. Doc used to take showers with the team, even though he didn't do any workouts, and everybody used to snicker about how you go into his office for a sore shoulder and he tells you to take your pants down. Okay, so I want to stop for a moment. One of the things that really stood out to me from these interviews with former wrestlers was how pretty much everyone acknowledged what was going on, but the athletes were afraid to speak out. Many of the athletes received scholarships to go to that university because of their skills and their talents.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And they were afraid of having that scholarship taken away from them. So they didn't speak out. But there was just this weird environment of, yeah, it's going on. We're gonna joke around about it rather than address it. And I mean, it was a different time. But still, it's kind of incredible that these kids were being, I mean, these students were being molested and everyone knew. So there was as much as 1,500 to 2,000 athletes.
Starting point is 00:28:51 over 15 different sports who might have been molested by this guy. What's shocking to me, and I lived through that time, it was, you know, I was alive in the 1970s and the 1990s and I played sports in that time. Apparently it was super commonplace and I guess I'm super lucky that I didn't draw the wrong card, right? That, oh, well, hey, if one of the adults wants to molest the kids, well, what are you gonna do? That's Dr. Strauss. They'd say, I came in for a sore shoulder and he'd say, take your pants down and he'd
Starting point is 00:29:20 feel their penis. What? And apparently, now to be fair, some people did do something about it. The head coach Helixen reported him to the administrators, and he warned the doctor to steer clear of his wrestlers. So some adults did the right thing, but apparently administrators didn't do anything because Dr. Strauss kept working there for decades. What are they thinking?
Starting point is 00:29:45 Now, today, it seems unimaginable. I bet if you told me back then, I would have found it unimaginable back then. Right. But apparently a lot of people in power, their assumption was, and that is why this cultural shift now is, I think, so terrific. Their assumption back then was if you're in power, you can do whatever you want, and there's never any consequences. So in fact, Anna, the most shocking part of the story to me was not about Jim Jordan, was
Starting point is 00:30:10 not about the doctor, because we know Dr. Larry Nasser, and that's part of the reason why these kids came forward. They saw what he had done to the girls in the gymnastics. And so they got emboldened to come forward and tell their stories because they didn't want it to happen to other people. So we know that that happens from time to time. But apparently at 3.30 p.m. when the athletes would start taking showers, not just Dr. Nassar, but this is according to NBC News, university professors, administrators, and others would show up in the shower stalls just as the athletes were arriving. What? Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Like, so this was a thing. So, like, professors and different people, like, oh, the young boys are in the showers. Let's all randomly head to the showers at 3.30 in the afternoon to take a shower in the middle of the day with naked boys. So- What? So, by the way, they're, I mean, they're incredibly young. They're not boys. They're over 18. So they're considered men, but still, they're young men that are, you know, according to what they're alleging, who are being abused by people in positions.
Starting point is 00:31:17 of power at this university. And so for the longest time, they didn't speak out because they felt like they couldn't. And because of the whole Larry Nassar case, they realized, wait, maybe there could be justice. And so I'm glad that they spoke out. But you're right, Jenk, like that kind of shocked me as well, because it shows you, if it's proven to be true, how insanely widespread this kind of abuse is. And so Helixson, the coach talked to the doctor, and he's like, you got to stop going in the shower.
Starting point is 00:31:45 And then the doctor says, well, you go in the shower. He's like, I go in the shower when we're done with practice, you're not even in practice. And I don't stay in there for an hour. What are you doing in there? Right. Right, let alone what he did to the kids in the, in private training area, which is much worse. So it was, it's amazing to me that it was just accepted. It's just like, hey, there's perverts who like to, I mean, and that's the least you could
Starting point is 00:32:08 say about him, who like to molest the young students. And some of us talk to them about it and tell him not to do it. Jim Jordan apparently decided not to be one of those guys. He just said, don't touch me. Now, look, how guilty is Jim Jordan? I mean, is this a thing that, you know, he should resign over? Look, generally with conservative voters, they don't care about hypocrisy at all. So I'd be shocked if they cared about this.
Starting point is 00:32:35 My guess is they're all saying, oh, it's a long time ago, just leave him alone. To me, I think it's actually not an easy question. It's easy for progressives to say, throw him to the wolves. But he didn't do it. And apparently, at the time, it was totally accepted that you just allow this type of stuff to happen because it's not like he was the only one. The administrators knew about it. The coach warned him and they didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So look, one thing that is absolutely clear, there needs to be consequences today so that it doesn't happen in the future. Because unless you're mental, nobody thinks that this is acceptable. Now, I know the politics gets so crazy that the Republicans will say, I don't care when it comes to Jim Jordan, right? Yeah. But do we go back 20 years and then say, okay, anybody who didn't do anything back then, now has to be fired from whatever job they're in today?
Starting point is 00:33:24 I think that's a difficult question. Well, I think it's a difficult question, but answering that question becomes easier depending on what that job is. If you are a U.S. representative, you are in a position of power that's incredibly important, And so if you are willing to sit back and remain complicit in this type of abuse, molestation, sexual assault, I don't believe that you're fit to serve as a U.S. senator, as a U.S. representative, as anyone in any type of position of power, right? Because, look, the role of the government is to represent and protect its people.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And if he can't protect, you know, people who do not have any position of power, students in vulnerable positions or situations like this, then how can you trust him to protect the American people in his position of power? So look, for me, it doesn't matter. This goes beyond politics. I don't care if it's a Republican or a conservative or a liberal, progressive, Democrat, doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is whether or not this person takes their job and their responsibility
Starting point is 00:34:33 seriously. And if it's proven that he was complicit in this, I don't think that he should serve in any position of power. Finally, another thing that is absolutely clear is based on the testimony of several different ex-restlers from Ohio State, Jim Jordan knew. And so now when he's saying, oh, the guy whose locker was right next to mine, the one I warned about not touching me, oh, he was touching all the other boys that told me, someone said, yeah, I told Jim Jordan, hey, can you help me, right? And you think all those wrestlers are lying for no reason when they actually really like Jim Jordan? And they're on the record. So I want to give you one other example.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So let's go to Graphic 11. This is another former wrestler who said nice things about Jim Jordan, right? So he says the following. I remember I had a thumb injury and went into Strauss's office and he started pulling down my wrestling shorts. I'm like, what the F are you doing? And I went out and told Russ that was the head coach. And Jim, assistant coach, what happened? I was not having it, they went in and talked to Strauss.
Starting point is 00:35:38 So that's again another former wrestler who's on the record by name saying I went to Jim Jordan myself and told him what was going on and he took some action. He went and spoke to Strauss. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if his voters will ever care. I don't know if conservatives will care. Well, his voters aren't going to care, right? But at a bare minimum, he's definitely lying.
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Starting point is 00:38:03 And you get the whole two-hour show ad-free every day. Let's go do it now. All right, back on TYT, Jank and Anna, with you guys. Johnny, the rogue nerd writes in on Twitter, just became a member today and got two shirts, The Young Turks Tank, the one you were wearing on Friday. Well, or your version of it. And Nerd Alert, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Looking forward to membership, good stories and good times. Awesome, Johnny, welcome. TYT.com slash join and become a member. J.R. and I had fun, potentially hilarious post game yesterday. I talked about back when I was a conservative. And we talked about a lot of different things, but it was great. So if you remember, please check that out. I think you'll enjoy it. The liberal mom says, I'm sorry, but BS. People went after Joe Pa for knowing about Sandusky and actually telling the board of directors if he knew Jim Jordan told no one and nothing happens, that is messed up.
Starting point is 00:39:03 So, all right, fair. Good comment. Now, we got more for you. All right. A new report indicates that people living on military bases throughout the country were consuming drinking water that had a chemical that could lead to serious health consequences, including liver cancer, liver disease, I should say, weight gain and also. cancer. So this is a report that the Trump administration tried to prevent the release of. But
Starting point is 00:39:34 now that it has been released, unfortunately no one's really talking about it. And it disproportionately impacts our military members who live on military bases with their families because some of the materials that they use in their training contains this chemical and it seeps into their drinking water. So a division of the Department of Health and Human Services quietly published, it's 852 page review of PFAS, which are used in everything from carpets and frying pan coatings to military firefighting foams. Now the military firefighting foams is exactly what is seeping into the drinking water. This is something that they use during their training exercises, and the foam does make
Starting point is 00:40:16 its way into the water. So people, the report offers the most comprehensive gathering of information on the effects of these chemicals and suggest that they're actually far more dangerous than previously thought. So back in the day, the U.S. government said, all right, if there are 70 parts per trillion of this chemical in the water, then anything past that is unsafe. It could lead to serious health consequences. However, after studying it further, they found that it's actually much lower, 7 to 11 parts per trillion.
Starting point is 00:40:50 So, A, the previous studies were wrong, and B, now we know that there's a lot more of this chemical in the drinking water that's disproportionately impacting our soldiers, and the Trump administration tried to hide the data about it because they wanted to avoid a PR nightmare. What the Trump administration didn't realize is that the mainstream media doesn't care about these kinds of stories and doesn't report on these kinds of stories, so they didn't have to worry about the PR nightmare. But we're at least reporting on it. So, there's a part of this story, which I feel a little embarrassed by, because this
Starting point is 00:41:26 doesn't happen that often, but I was naive about this one. I legitimately did not understand it. I was like, well, look, it's not a thing that the Trump administration created. So it's actually fairly easy to say, oh, well, man, it wasn't me, this has been going on for decades. So in fact, Trump could go over the top and go, it's Obama's fault, we were, it was a mess, what do you did in the militaries? It actually isn't Obama either, it's that they just re-studied the issue and realized that
Starting point is 00:41:53 it was much worse than they originally anticipated and it goes back decades covering Republican and Democratic presidents. So why in the world do you delay? So I thought, well, maybe they just don't want to pay for it. And they're gonna- That is a part of it. And sure, and I'm sure it is a little part of it, but it's a small part of it because at some point you gotta release the study and you gotta start paying anyway. And then Emily Atkin at the New Republic made a point where-
Starting point is 00:42:18 where I was like, oh, right. So the people who made this chemical are, of course, part of a corporation that could potentially be donors. So they, that six month delay buys them time to prepare their case for the eventual lawsuits, gets them a huge jump start. Now look, we don't know if there are any memos between Pruitt and the, and those companies yet, by the way, we do know, Pruitt is erasing the people he met with. That's a story out today as well in the news. And remember, he built a $43,000 soundproof telephone booth in his office
Starting point is 00:42:59 because he didn't want people to find out who he was talking to. So it is a very fair question who he was talking to. But at least that made rational sense. I was like, right, excellent point. Like, because in that six months, there's still people having kids in that area, military people, Right? And people that we should care about, look, we should care about everybody equally, but the Republicans and a lot of politicians make a huge deal about how much they care about the veterans and supporting the troops. They know that they're being poisoned in those areas on 126 military facilities, right? And they let them drink the water anyway because they got to give a heads up to their donors. Oh, it's sick, man. So, look, as you mentioned, this has been an ongoing problem, and there was faulty science to begin with, and then now we have the real data, and we now know why the Trump administration is trying to, or at least tried to stop the release of this data. So not only do we put our soldiers' lives at risk with preemptive wars or intervening or
Starting point is 00:44:05 meddling in other wars that other countries have started. Saudi Arabia and Yemen, for instance, we're also risking their lives and their health with dirty water. So tell me something. What's more disrespectful to our troops and to our veterans? Is it quietly kneeling or, yeah, kneeling during the national anthem to protest a serious issue in the country, or is it more disrespectful to risk their lives in multiple ways? So I know what some conservatives would be like, oh, yeah, like you guys.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I just care about the troops. Yeah, I do actually care about the troops. Because for me, the troops are not props, right? The troops are used and exploited as props by the right wing, right? Support the troops, you know, because in reality when they say support the troops, it means support the war that we're sending our troops to so our private contractors can make some money, right? That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:45:02 When they say, no, you gotta respect our soldiers and stand for the national anthem, it's basically a dog whistle regarding race relations. in the country. That's what it's really about. They're always used as props. People who really care about the troops should be outraged that they've been drinking this contaminated water which leads to these, you know, terrible diseases, cancer, birth defects. This is the kind of stuff that they should be concerned about, but they're not.
Starting point is 00:45:26 No one's talking about this. Well, look, maybe this will get conservative's attention. Not only increase of cancer, but disruption in hormones and the immune system. So, you know, for all the right wing people that were talking about, hey, I think there's something wrong with the hormones, yeah, if you, you know, it's not because people want to turn frogs gay and it's not, you know, it's not Pepsi and it's not any of these lunatic conspiracy theories. And it's not on purpose.
Starting point is 00:45:55 What it is, as usual, a corporation who wanted to make money didn't take enough care. But by the way, also government bureaucrats who then cover it up for different. reasons, whether it's to protect the donors and the corporations, or it's to protect their own ass because they don't want people to find out that they'd been screwing up, right? There are logical real reasons for it, but when you talk, at least it might get the right wing's attention, like, well, I'm hormone issues, I knew it, I knew it, that's the real problem. Well, actually, there are sometimes problems, but there's real answers to why, and this is why.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And unfortunately, in this case, the Trump administration was covering it up. And lastly, on the back to the troops, the right-wing really believes this, and that's why it's amazing to me. They're like, we support the troops, that's why we want to send them to war to die. Whereas you guys care about their health care. Yeah, yeah, we do. We want them to have health care and to not get cancer and to not die incestless wars. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I don't want them to do multiple deployments to the Middle East so military contractors can make money. I don't want that. I actually want to save their lives and not send them to unnecessary wars. and then also have them come back with mental health issues because they've been deployed so much time, so many times, and then deny them adequate health coverage. I mean, that's essentially what's happening to them. So let's stop using our soldiers as props. Let's stop exploiting them and actually take action to care for them.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Because that's not what's happening on a federal level. And it's honestly disgusting. I mean, first of all, it's disgusting if anyone in the United States, one of the richest countries in the world, is exposed to contain. contaminated drinking water. But apparently this is just, it's become a pattern. It's become something to expect here in the U.S. Far too common. It's way past time that we do something about it. If we could find money for trillions of dollars of tax cuts for the rich, we could find money to actually take care of our troops. All right. Well, Scott Pruitt is the head of the EPA.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Doesn't really seem to have a lot of interest in protecting the environment, has a lot of interest in using taxpayer money for all sorts of things, including tactical pants, which we'll get to later. But Kristen Mink actually saw Scott Pruitt having lunch at a restaurant and decided to respectfully approach him and speak to him about why she believes he should resign. Take a look. Hi. I just wanted to urge you to resign because what you're doing to the environment in our This is my son. He loves animals. He loves clean air.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He loves clean water. Meanwhile, you're slashing strong-knit standards regarding trucks for the benefits to the big corporations. You've been paying about tonight to say if you see kind of that's connected to an energy lobby room while approving their dirty sands type line. We deserve to have somebody at the UKA who actually does protect our environment. Somebody who believes in climate change and keeps it
Starting point is 00:48:57 seriously for the benefit of all of us, including our children. So I would urge you to resign before your scandals push you out. Okay, that's how you do it. So not anything physical at all, obviously, not even shouting. She didn't even raise her voice. That was the calmest, you know, interaction that I've seen between two people who obviously disagree with one another quite a bit. Right, and that's a government official.
Starting point is 00:49:25 You know what that means? They work for us. They are supposed to represent us. And she calmly went over and said, you're supposed to protect the environment for my son and for all of us. And you're doing the opposite. Can you stop, please? Can you actually turn around?
Starting point is 00:49:40 And I think that's just nearly perfect. And it makes him a little uncomfortable. I get it. And his colleague, I don't know if that's a fellow government worker or if that's a lobbyist with Pruitt, you know, eight out of ten times, it's a lobbyist. or a corporate executive that he's dining with, but if they're a little uncomfortable that somebody that they're representing, and I'm sure they don't see it that way, but someone that they're representing is unhappy with their work, well, we chalk that one up to a sad
Starting point is 00:50:12 day for you. Right, I mean, the go-to action that people are encouraged to take, if they disagree with what a politician is doing, is to call that person or email that person. But that's usually the excuse that's used if you just want to ignore what that person has to say. Whatever criticism, whatever concern. You're right, Jake, these are people who work for us. These are people who are supposed to represent the American people. And Pruitt has done the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:50:41 He's done nothing but represent himself, benefit himself. He's spent so much money, taxpayer money on ridiculous things. I mean, there's a $43,000 phone booth that he installed in his office. I'm not kidding, he bought tactical pants. I don't even know what he would use tactical pants for. He spent- No, I find that hilarious. He spent $1,500, $1,500. I don't know how you do shopping, but to me, spending $1,500 on pants is amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:10 But so- But they're tactical. But they're tactical. And I don't know what kind of tactics his pants are using, okay? But for $1,500, that better be excellent tactics. Okay, the pants go, hey, you know what? I meet with the next lobbyist. Okay. Spent $100,000 to go on a trip to Morocco to visit a longtime pal of his.
Starting point is 00:51:32 No, that pal, by the way, of course, another person connected to the donors. And he went to Morocco and pushed that company's agenda on Ardon. He spent $100,000 of our money to go push that corporate agenda because of the corruption that he's involved with. It was an energy company in the United States that has been pushing Pruitt to essentially do lobbying work for them. So we went to Morocco and took up this meeting to encourage them to buy from this energy company, this U.S. energy company. And he thinks you don't have a right to any of this information, and that's why he's erasing
Starting point is 00:52:12 his records as we speak. he, in his time, as Attorney General of Oklahoma, would go and take, literally copy and paste from lobbyist memos and put it into law in Oklahoma, because all he cares about is representing the donors. He used those same people to raise a lot of money for the Republican Party and get themselves reelected. Look, when members of the young Turks come up to me publicly, a lot of times they'll be very nice, I appreciate it, and sometimes they'll have critique and legitimate critique.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Hey, I like this host more. I don't like the other one or you're doing this or I wish you'd cover that more. Focus on what they say about you. Okay. Well, they're my boss. Because the members make this show possible, by the way, t-y-t.com slash join to become a member. And they get to voice their opinion. They're the ones that pay for all this to happen.
Starting point is 00:53:03 So we pay Scott Pruitt's salary. And I know that it seems hilarious at this point and also tragic. But his job, his literal job is to protect our environment. I mean, he is doing nothing of the sort. He is allowing the polluters to run wild, run amok. He's stripping regulations away, allowing for more pollution to go into your waters and certainly into our air. It's not just climate change, it's literal toxic stuff going into your nearby streams.
Starting point is 00:53:35 The least you could do is go up to them and tell them you disagree politely, as she did. They couldn't be more polite. I thought that was perfectly handled. Yes. Look, I think that it's okay to raise your voice a little more if you want to, if you're passionate about it. But, again, I think it is important to voice your concerns. And you should never, for the billionth time, resort to any type of physical violence.
Starting point is 00:54:00 And no one has so far. And I hope no one will. But it is important to practice your First Amendment right and speak out regarding the issues that you feel passionately. about. All right, we have another Pruitt story, and this one is quite a doozy. What is he doing to undermine Jeff Sessions? And also, what are the latest scandals that he's involved in?
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