The Young Turks - Israeli Prime Sinister - October 8, 2025

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Welcome to TYT, I'm your host, Anna Kasparian, and we have a massive show ahead for you today. I'm gonna be 100% honest with you all, there's so much going on. so much developing simultaneously and my schedule is so insane that I'm worried that I don't have everything I need to share with you. Okay, like that's how crazy today's newsday was. But we do have some fantastic stories, researched, produced, and ready to go to share with

you all today, including some insight into Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's interview with a challenging hard-hitting journalist Ben Shapiro. So we'll get to that at the top of the show. Later on, we'll also talk about Ken Klippenstein's latest reporting on efforts to do mass surveillance of Americans, leftists in particular. We'll also talk a little bit about, well, what's really behind that gross joke that Van Jones told on real time with Bill Maher.

It turns out that he's running with some folks who have an agenda in mind, and he hasn't really been open and honest about that. So we'll get to that to that detail in just a little bit. But as always, just want to encourage you to like and share the stream. If you're watching us live, it's a free and easy way to help support the show, help support TYT. And you can also support us by becoming a member, tYT.com slash join to become a member. And with all that in mind, why don't we get to our first story? Now, ballistic missiles that are intercontinental ballistic missiles for 8,000 kilometer

range. You don't want to be under the nuclear gun of these people who are not necessarily rational and who chant death to America. You know, Iron Dome, Israel developed it, share it with America. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sat down for a wide-ranging and hard-hitting interview with Ben Shapiro, which is what I'd be saying to you if I were delusional, but I'm not. In reality, Netanyahu is on yet another leg of his influencer propaganda And unsurprisingly, the topic of Iran came up yet again. For decades, Netanyahu has been pressuring the United States to go to war with Iran on Israel's behalf. Yet despite all the money we've spent and wars we fought on behalf of this tiny country in the Middle East, Netanyahu wants you to believe that Israel is actually very strong, pulls its own weight, and actually treats us better than any of our other allies.

Take a look. The problem that you've had over the years, the United States, is that you didn't have these allies pulling their weight. And Israel is an ally. It's a fighting ally that pulls its weight. Not only that, not only do we fight. We don't ask for Americans to bring boots on the ground. We've done the job of defending ourselves pretty well, I'd say,

over the last 77 years. But it's not only that. We've also defeated enemies who are your enemies, trying to develop intercontinental ballistic missiles armed with nuclear warheads to attack your cities. That's what Iran was doing. You see what Nanyahu did there? So he trashed America's allies for allegedly failing to pull their own weight. In some cases, you can make that argument, especially when it comes to military spending among our NATO allies, something that Donald Trump has pointed out.

and to his credit, has encouraged those countries to spend more money on. But that's what Netanyahu is claiming in regard to our other allies, even though Israel is the single largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid. At the same time, Netanyahu positioned Israel as the heroic ally that saves us from Iran, which to be quite honest with you isn't really much of a threat to the United States at all. I mean, look at their retaliatory strikes after the U.S. bombed Iran's nuclear sites. Let me just tell you something. A country that's looking to kill Americans isn't going to hit up the U.S. government ahead of a retaliatory strike and say what they're going to do, how they're going to do it so U.S. troops can evacuate and no one gets hurt.

But anyway, Iran does believe in Palestinians' right to self-determination and is literally the only country that seems to want to defend them. So I suspect that has more to do with Israel's desire to go to war with Iran or to have the United States go to war with Iran. And let me just remind you all that Israel is a nuclear power. They don't acknowledge the fact they have nuclear weapons, but they do. And Israel is not part of the nonproliferation treaty, which Iran is a part of. Nonetheless, as for Netanyahu's claim that Israel pulls their weight, as we all know too well, Israel is a welfare state that relies on Americans, who live in a country drowning in $37 trillion

in debt, by the way. Israel relies on us to borrow even more money to bankroll their belligerent military activity in the Middle East, including the genocide in Gaza and the illegal annexation of the West Bank. 30 billion dollars over the last year alone. That's the reality, and that's the paradigm we've been operating under for so long that the prime minister is under the assumption that the same BS talking points that dragged the United States into war in Iraq, Syria, Libya, there were boots on the ground in Libya, by the way, and more is going to work again. I mean, just listen to this garbage. Iran is developing now ballistic missiles that are intercontinental ballistic missiles for 8,000 kilometer range.

What does that mean? They add another 3,000 kilometers and they've got under their gun, under their atomic guns. The New York City and Target, Washington, Boston, Miami, Maralago, okay? So that is a very great danger. You don't want to be under the nuclear.

their gun of these people who are not necessarily rational and who chant death to America. So I think Israel has played a very important part in pushing that thread away. You had the United States bombing Iran's nuclear sites. It wasn't IDF soldiers who did that. The United States, on Israel's behalf, bombed Iran's nuclear sites. I would venture to say that the country that's more of a risk is the belligerent one that's currently conducting a genocide and happens to be a secret nuclear power, and that's of course the government of Israel.

I would venture to say that, you know, the bad guys in this scenario right now is the United States and Israel who decided to attack Iran when Iran was under the assumption, under the impression that they were still in the middle of engaging in nuclear peace talks with the United States. Remember when that happened? Yeah. What about the country that decided to strike Qatar and kill or attempt to kill Hamas peace negotiators in the middle of ceasefire negotiations?

That was Israel, right? You want to have a conversation about the threat to world peace, especially when it comes to what's currently transpiring in the Middle East. Let's have a conversation about the current unhinged far-right government of Israel. Israel is now engaged in a seven front war, seven front war that they have started. Okay, Hamas is not in Lebanon. Hamas, you know, isn't in freaking Tunisia, like all of these various countries that have been bombed by Israel. Isn't that an issue here?

But no, we should all like live in fear here in the United States because Israel's enemy is something that we need to be concerned about as American citizens who again are experiencing our quality of life diminished year after year, who are experiencing more and more of our resources getting funneled to servicing our 37 trillion dollars in debt. Republicans in Congress just cut a trillion dollars from our Medicaid system, so poor Americans won't be able to get any health care coverage through the Medicaid system. But when it comes to shelling out the billions, tens of billions, hundreds of billions of dollars to a foreign country, Israel, oh, well, that's okay. Money well spent. I just, I invite Netanyahu to come on this show, I would love to have a conversation with him because I get it. I get that he wants to talk to friendly individuals who let him run his mouth and attempt to instill fear in the hearts and minds of Americans who might be easily impressionable, might

believe that Iran is an actual threat to us. No, Iran is not a threat to the United States. Iran is the only power in the Middle East that seeks to at least check Israel as it's slaughtering Palestinians. And Israel can have that. They want to be the superpower in the region. They want to have full control. They want the United States to topple regimes on its behalf. And it's enough. This is enough. It's just so utterly gross. But look, Netanyahu did come back to the question of Iran's alliance with, I'm sorry, Israel's alliance with the United States. And he dropped this whopper and I want you to pay very close attention to what he says here.

You know, Iron Dome, Israel developed it, shared with America. Arrow missiles, they shoot these missiles from the sky, way, way up in altitude developed by Israel, co-shared with America. Wait, Israel gave the United States the Iron Dome? Are you kidding me? The Iron Dome is Israel's missile defense system. missile defense system, which the United States, meaning its taxpayers, have funded every step of the way. American taxpayers funded its research and development, construction, and in fact, continue to pay for

its missile replenishment. Between 2009 and 2011, the Obama administration, who, by the way, the Lakud Party loaves, Netanyahu loaves, because Obama had the audacity to one time tell Netanyahu, who, hey, maybe, maybe ease up with the illegal settlements. But the Obama administration provided more than $1.6 billion for the Iron Dome's initial development. In 2019, Congress passed a memorandum of understanding, which provides Israel with a guaranteed $500 million a year for 10 years to restock the missiles needed for the Iron Dome. But that's apparently not enough because Congress has approved additional funds for the system's interceptors, and that includes $225 million back in 2014, and another

$1 billion in 2021. That was when AOC voted in favor of sending Israel another billion, and then cried about it on the House floor. I don't understand her. Anyway, let's not also forget about the $14.3 billion emergency aid package to Israel that Congress approved in 2024. Yes, that was for offensive weapons that Israel used to raise Gaza and engage in mass slaughter, but it also included money to replenish the Iron Dome. So they wouldn't have to deal with the blowback or the consequences of committing so many atrocities and war crimes. That's the reality. So again, I'd love to invite Benjamin Netanyahu since he is on this media tour in the United States to come on this show. Because if he's a strong leader,

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Jones told about dead Gazan babies during his recent appearance on real time with Bill Mar. Because Dropside News has uncovered his ties to a new pro-Israel organization, which he should be upfront and disclose, but he didn't. So let's learn more about this organization. So it's called the Jackie and Jeff Karsh Journalism Fellowship. And it describes itself as solely dedicated to Jewish topics. So Jackie Karsh, I had never heard of her in my life, but it turns out she's one of the fellowship's co-founders

and states that she is fighting on the front of journalism for Israel. So she's out front with her bias in favor of Israel, which is kind of the antithesis of pursuing journalism. But okay, fair enough. She's apparently, or at least she likes to fashion herself as a journalist based here in Los Angeles. In December of last year, here's what she stated. October 7th happened and everything changed for me because I knew this was going to be a war of information the second it happened. You know, Jackie, I knew that too. You want to know why I knew that because I live here in the United States where the atrocities and war crimes that are carried out by the Israeli government tend to get glossed over or

not covered at all. Our media seems to be pretty friendly to the pro-Israel narrative. But here's what happened over the last two years. We saw endless videos of innocent people getting bombed, okay, just absolutely destroyed, children with limbs missing, parents weeping over the corpses of their toddlers. We saw images like that. The entirety of the Gaza Strip leveled by the Israeli government and the Israeli defense forces. That's what we saw. And it turns out that all the disinformation that Israeli supporters or Israel supporters orders might want to put out there really pales in comparison to the imagery that we've been consuming over the last two years.

But anyway, she then cited a post from Aviva Klopas, who's the former head of, I'm sorry about that. She's the, I'm sorry, former head of speech writing at the Israeli mission to the UN. Now what did Aviva write and what was cited? She wrote that the IDF is going to attack our enemies by land, sea, and air, and the rest of us are going to fight on the battlegrounds of academia, law, business, media, and every other damn front we can think of. And in reference to that, Karsh says, so this is my front. Journalism is my front, and I'm doing what I can. Look, I actually really value the fact that she's

being open and honest with what her agenda is. I respect that. Even though I disagree with her clearly, I disagree with her point of view, putting your cars on the table is admirable, because at least you're not trying to pretend like you're being a fair and honest journalist like Barry Weiss does. Barry Weiss, just like Karsh, has an overwhelming bias, but unlike Weiss, Karsh is willing to be upfront about her bias. Okay, fair enough, great. So in March of this year, Karsh stated that the Israel story is on the facts side. So you're already starting from a good place because the truth is at the end of the day, the IDF is the most moral army in the world. You know, Jackie, I wouldn't, I wouldn't think that. Just judging

based on how people behave when I engage in debate with them on Israel and its atrocities. Some of them even quit live on air and run off the set. But anyway, let me give you more. The Israeli population is made up of Christians, Druze and Arabs and Israelis, Jews, it runs the gamut. And so there's no apartheid there. And I think if you just go through each of those things systematically, the facts are on Israel's side.

Oh, is that true? Is that why Palestinians were shot and killed as they merely approached the border? wall that separates Gaza from Green Line Israel? Is that why that happened if there's no apartheid? Interesting. Hmm. Additionally, Karsh has cast doubt on the casualty numbers provided by the Gaza Ministry of Health. I actually cast doubt on those numbers as well. I actually think it's severely underestimated how many Palestinians have perished in Gaza as a result of this ongoing genocide. I suspect though, she's going in the opposite. direction. She also criticized the media's coverage of the Al-Ajli hospital bombing in

23, which the IDF claimed was caused by a Palestinian rocket. Since then, Israel has proceeded to bomb literally every single hospital in the Gaza Strip. And she served as the board member of a pro-Israel group called Jewish Federation for several years. Now, drop site news also notes that as far as they could tell, Karsh has never publicly expressed any concern, not even one, no modicum of concern for the Palestinian civilians in Gaza who have been starved, forcibly displaced, or slaughtered by the Israeli government. She seems to think that their lives aren't as important. I'll be generous and just frame it that way. Now, let's talk a little bit more about this fellowship that she's a co-founder of. So the Jackie and Jeff Karsh,

journalism fellowship maintains that it is resolutely nonpartisan. They didn't say that they're unbiased, but they're nonpartisan. So left, right, Democrat, Republican, as long as you support Israel, you're welcome. They began taking applications from those interested in joining back in July, and their whole game plan is to have up to 10 fellows who will then meet with with journalists, scholars, policy makers, and innovators over the course of three retreats. You know, the pro-Israel cohort in this country really loves their retreats, don't they? So they plan on discussing topics that include Middle East misinformation and how to stop

anti-Semitism. In other words, they're going to get together to discuss how they can spread and propagate their own version of Middle East misinformation, and they are going to embolden the current government of Israel to continue engaging in the type of atrocities that has fueled the uprise in anti-Semitism globally. I don't think these people realize how counterproductive they really are with what they're doing. Again, we have seen the images and the videos for two years straight. There's no level of propaganda that's going to erase the images that are literally, the images that at this point for me are seared in my mind. 16 scholars and journalists have already been chosen as mentors for the fellows and Van Jones,

as we previously mentioned, happens to be one of them. He used to be a radical. This is the guy who got fired from the Obama administration because he questioned the 9-11 narrative, man, this is embarrassing and also a little depressing, to be honest. So other mentors from the publications, other mentors are from publications that include the Atlantic, not surprised, Spectrum News, The Spectator, Wynet, which I think is an Israeli publication, if I'm not mistaken, the Times of Israel and the New York Times. And that last bullet point is especially interesting when you consider the following. The New York Times handbook of values and practices for its journalists states they should take care to ensure any public engagements, including giving speeches, participating on panels, teaching classes, and presenting at conferences do not create an actual or apparent conflict of interest or undermine public trust in the Times' independence.

When it comes to Israel, though, it's not rare for values to kind of fall by the wayside. I mean, think about the standards we have for literally every other country on the global stage when it comes to engaging in war. Now, if Russia carried out the same atrocities that the Israeli government is currently carrying out, we might have nuked them by now. But since it's Israel, it's okay. Fair enough. So DropSight News asked the Times whether having their journalists participate in this fellowship would, you know, essentially serve as a conflict of interest, especially considering the standards that the New York Times has. In response, a spokesperson called it ridiculous to claim that their mentorship is about anything other than supporting up-and-coming journalists. So apparently the New York Times didn't get the memo, even though Karsh was abundantly clear about what the agenda for this fellowship really is. I guess that's why they pay them the big bucks to do journalism.

When we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about public opinion shifting when it comes to Trump's immigration policies. Trump is also making all sorts of threats to intimidate his political opponent. on that front. So we've got a lot to share. Don't miss it. We'll be right back. Now it's okay for American citizens to be profiled, to be detained, even though they're not undocumented immigrants, for American children to be zip tied. American citizens are not being profiled. That is exactly what's happening right. They're being asked if they are undocumented. Do you walk around with your papers proving you're an American citizen?

I understand that everybody on the show loves to talk about this allegation of zip ties, which degeneration is a jury. As I grow and mature as someone who works in the news industry, I have learned that one thing that I just detest, one thing that I hate in the political world is maximalism, whether it's from the left or the right. And what we're seeing right now on the streets of Chicago, what we had seen on the streets of Los Angeles and in all these blue cities that the Trump administration is sending federalized National Guard troops to is maximalist policy that I suspect is meant to be retaliatory against Trump's political opponents. And there are political consequences, certainly for Trump and the Republicans. But I would venture to say there are also political consequences for the American people as a whole. Because we keep swinging back and forth like a pendulum from one extreme to another. So let's talk a little bit about Trump's immigration policies. Because it is true that Trump was elected, he received the popular vote, because American

were concerned about three main things. Number one, the economy, number two, immigration, number three, crime. Poll after poll showed that to be the case. But I would also venture to say that Americans didn't sign up to be terrorized by a maximalist immigration policy that green lights ice agents to essentially do whatever they want in these municipalities. So let's get into the details because following outrage over an overnight raid in Chicago where ice agents dragged crying adults screaming children out of every single apartment unit by the way many of whom were Americans. Trump has decided you know what I'm going to go further. There's been backlash to this. I'm going to send National Guard troops and in fact when there's backlash from state and local

politicians, I'm going to threaten them with imprisonment. Even if you voted for Trump and you wanted something to be done about immigration, about undocumented people in the United States, I doubt you signed up for this. And if you did, I really want you to just stop for a minute and ask yourself, how did I convince myself? How did I allow myself to be persuaded into thinking it is okay for my fellow Americans to be treated like this. And also ask yourself, who benefits from dividing Americans the way we've been divided over the last several decades? Because our lives have gotten worse. But select few are doing real well and just keep getting richer, don't they? So let's break it down. So after that,

you know, pre-dawn raid happened, you have the governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker, and Chicago's mayor, Brandon Johnson, essentially coming out and criticizing the Trump administration. And in response, the Trump administration is saying, well, maybe you need to go to prison. I'll get to that post by the president in just a moment. But before we do, here's the raid that I'm referring to. In Chicago, in the middle of the night, federal agents stormed an apartment building, Black Hawk helicopters, flashbangs, military-style trucks, all used in the raid. Now, witnesses say everyone was detained, no matter their status, children were zip tied together, separated from their parents. And the feds say that they arrested dozens of gang members.

Now look, I'm going to be honest and I'm going to be fair. So the federal government claims that 37 people, many of whom were Trenda-Aragua gang members, were arrested from that apartment building. And if that is proven to be true, good. I want them arrested and I want them deported. I don't care. I get that people on the left think that that's the most egregious thing I could possibly say. But I would also respond to them and ask,

how the hell did it get so bad that there were 37 Trenda Aragua gang members in a single apartment building? Seriously. But look, honestly, at this point, the federal government has been caught in lie after lie, including some lies about a woman that an ice agent shot at five times. She got hospitalized. Their story keeps changing. They claimed that she was armed with a firearm.

Later on, it turns out she didn't have a firearm at all. So I don't know what to believe, I don't know what to trust. But for the moment, let's take what the feds are saying at face value, that they arrested 37 people, many of whom were Trenda Aragua gang members. I'm gonna take that at face value just for the sake of this conversation. Good. With all of the additional funding that's been provided to Border Patrol and to ICE in particular, they didn't have the resources necessary to do a targeted raid.

They had to terrorize American citizens who were sleeping soundly in their apartments before or the sun had even risen. And if you're okay with that as an American citizen, why? Why do you hate your fellow Americans so much? Why do you think they deserve that? You think it's okay to zip tie American children together? What is this? This is gross maximalist policy.

It's the other side of the far left coin that says, no, no, no, there's no, there's no, there's no, it's okay, who cares, let's just ignore it. I loathe it, I hate it. It's the sign of a dysfunctional, stupid government. So that raid led to Chicago mayor Brandon Johnson, who honestly, I've got a lot of criticism of. But nonetheless, he attempted to, he's attempting at least to prevent ICE from using city property as staging grounds for their raids. Now as we all know, the federal government supersedes state and local government. But nonetheless, here's what Brandon Johnson had to say after that raid took place.

The order establishes ice-free zones. That means that city property and unwilling private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for these rates. Ice cannot enter establishments without a valid warrant. Private entities may voluntarily choose to display signage to designate the property as part of a citywide network of community spaces that stand together in affirming the safety, dignity, and belonging of all of our residents. And now President Donald Trump, in response to that, is calling for the imprisonment of both Governor J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. He wrote this morning on truth social. Chicago mayor should be in jail for failing to protect ice officers, Governor Pritzker, also.

So there is a lie percolating all over the internet about how local police in Chicago issued stand down orders as ice agents were being attacked by protesters. There have been protesters in front of an ice building in Chicago. and there is no evidence that the Chicago police issued a stand down order. In fact, the superintendent of police gave a press conference in which he made abundantly clear that if federal agents are being harmed in any way, that the Chicago police will defend them, will protect them, and people have already been arrested as a result of, you know, engaging in unlawful, illegal, violent behavior. And they should be. I'm not absolutely.

against the protests, I think you should be free to protest, but you're not free to assault people, including ICE agents, regardless of how much you hate what the Trump administration is doing with their immigration policies. But Trump is using that lie as the excuse to send federalized National Guard troops to these municipalities, even though local leaders, even though the state's politicians didn't ask for it, don't want it, and in fact have said repeatedly that this is escalating the situation, but that's what Trump wants. And that's the problem here, that this isn't actually about making the lives of Americans better. This is about theater. This is about retaliation and intimidation against Trump's

political opponents. And this is about, in my opinion, normalizing the use of the military on U.S. soil. Trump is at war with Americans right now. Okay, he has said out loud, this is on the same day that Pete Higgseth gave that fat-shaming speech to our military. That same day Trump gave a speech where he talked about how our military should use blue cities, liberal cities as training grounds. He's launching a war against our fellow Americans, guys.

And that's not okay. It's not okay, regardless of the political affiliation of the person doing it. I'd be outraged. I mean, I can't imagine Biden doing this, but if Biden did it, if Biden said, I'm sending federalized troops over to, I don't know, some city in Mississippi, to Alabama, whatever, to terrorize them, I would be really angry about it. And it just upsets me that we're at a point in this country where we're so divided and both sides seem to hate each other so much that it's almost like Americans don't see the

other side as human at this point. And that kind of hatred will lead to the fall of the United States. Because if we don't have at least some level of respect for each other as Americans, we're in a lot of trouble. We've been in a lot of trouble to be honest with you. So Pritzker, Governor Pritzker responded to Trump's message on truth social. He replied on X saying, I will not back down. Trump is now calling for the arrest of elected representatives checking his power. What else is left on the path to full-blown authoritarianism? But, but Governor Pritzker, here's the question I have for you, as if he's ever going to see this.

But if you do, I'd love an answer. How did it get to a point where someone like Donald Trump gets the popular vote? Is it because those top three issues, according to the polling, wasn't being adequately addressed by Democrats? Because I remember in the lead up to the 2024 election, when all those stories were coming out about the Trenda-Iraga gang members in that apartment complex in Aurora, Colorado, Democrats were in full denial thinking if we just deny, maybe the problem will go away. Well, the problem didn't go away. In fact, there was retaliation from the electorate to the point where Trump won re-election

and secured the popular vote. So my question to people like J.B. Pritzker is, how? How did it get so bad that 37 people who are allegedly Trenta Aragua gang members were living inside a single apartment building? How about you govern your city and state? I just, it's so frustrating to me because someone like Trump doesn't come into power out of nowhere. And unless the Democratic Party take ownership of its own failures and recalibrate as it

moves forward, this is only going to get worse. Like, what am I supposed to support here? Like, who are the good guys here? I know who the bad guys are. I know who the ineffective, negligent politicians are. And you think Brandon Johnson doesn't love the opportunity to position himself as a strong opponent, a protector of the people living in Chicago? It's just, I can't stand any of this.

And the people suffering right now are literally children who are being zip tied and American citizens who are being profiled. I don't I don't walk around with immigration papers. I don't walk around with identification proving I'm an American citizen. But there have been now dozens of cases of Americans who keep getting detained simply because of the way they look. I'll give you a specific example. One of them, this was a story out of Long Island. So this guy in Long Island gets pulled over. He's in his early 20s, early to mid 20s. He gets pulled over American citizen born in the United States.

So an ice agent pulls him over, he's like, can I help you? Well, like, why are you pulling me over? Ice agent tells him, you look like someone we're looking for. And then proceeds to ignore all of the subsequent questions. So at that point, there's no probable cause, there's no reasonable suspicion of any wrongdoing. and the driver just decides, I'm not going to cooperate. I'm not going to give you my, no, I'm not giving you my ID. Who are you?

Why are you stopping me? I'm an American citizen. He ends up getting detained for over an hour. And that's one of the better stories that I've read. In Los Angeles, an American citizen was put in a prison or a jail, I should say, for almost a week. Okay, again, born in America. So why are we okay with?

Is this what we signed up for? Is this what people signed up for? I don't think so. So look, in that same X thread, you know, featuring J.B. Pritzker's views, comments, and response to Donald Trump, he made reference to the terror that ICE is instilling in his state, which is actually true. Why is ICE using Black Hawk helicopters on U.S. soil in the middle of an immigration raid? Do we really need all that? Flashbangs, breaking through windows, busting down doors of every

single apartment unit, every single one. And look, Republican voters for the most part are in favor of this. And it makes me really sad to say that. But Trump is losing support. Republicans are losing support. And that midterm election is going to come up real quick. So let me give you a little taste of what a new Times Sienna survey says, shows that the majority of voters think that the Trump administration is deporting mostly the right people. But they also say that the process has been unfair. So 51% said that they thought the government was deporting mostly people who should be deported, while 42% said the government was deporting the wrong people.

But more than half of voters, 53% think the process of deporting people has not been fair. 44% said it was mostly fair. A similar share, 52% disapprove of Trump's handling of immigration, 46% approve, And 51% said his actions around immigration enforcement had gone too far. That might not seem like, oh, wow, it's like a blowout loss for Trump on the issue of immigration. But you have to remember, he came in with a very high approval rating when it came to his immigration policies. So he's only lost support since then. And it's been what, like seven months?

No. Nine months. Man, this year is going by fast, but anyway, I'm not necessarily against ICE doing targeted raids where they find the bad guys, especially if they're gang members, and they deport them. I have no problem with that. When you have received an insane amount of taxpayer money, by the way, in an environment where the country is drowning in debt, I would say you've had the resources to do your job appropriately. So Congress set aside roughly $170 billion for immigration enforcement and border security efforts

through the legislation, the big beautiful bill. That's the legislation that's being referenced, including $75 billion in extra funding for ICE. So you're telling me that they're unable to do targeted rates and instead they have to terrorize every single person who was living in that apartment building? Come on. Seems like we're talking about a government agency that's drunk on power, doesn't really care about the safety or well-being of American citizens. And when there's backlash, rightfully so, Trump uses that as an excuse to send in federalized National Guard troops. This administration doesn't give a damn about you. And even with all this theater, even with all this nonsense going on, Obama still deported more people than Trump did,

or has so far. This is just, it's disgusting, it's egregious, I absolutely hate it. Anyway, we gotta take a break. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about Trump's befuddlement at Marjorie Taylor Green and some of which she's had to say publicly lately. I love this story, don't miss it, we'll be right. back. All right, let's see how many stories I can fit in before Jank comes in. So let's talk a little bit about Trump, just finding himself super confused about what's going

on with Marjorie Taylor Green. What I am doing is sounding the alarm bells. This is a major crisis in America. When people are working paycheck to paycheck, they can't make ends meet. And we're looking at a massive spike in health insurance premiums. It's going to crush people. They're going to have to drop their health insurance. And that could put a lot of people in danger of being bankrupt with hospital bills or health care bills.

And I don't think that's the right way to treat the American people. Agreed, again, which is weird and strange. But I welcome it. Marjorie Taylor Green has once again had the balls to step out in public and step out of line with members of her own party. And she's doing it on the issue of health care, something that is definitely in need of attention from our lawmakers, but tends to get neglected. And now apparently Donald Trump is absolutely perplexed by it. He's befuddled. What's going on with Marjorie Taylor Green? Isn't she one of my loyal warriors? Well, it turns out she's got a mind of her own, I respect that, and I want to tell you exactly what she is pushing for.

So this saga, this saga did heat up again yesterday when Congresswoman Green came out in support of extending the subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, which would lower premiums for Americans, or at least keep premiums where they are. Without those subsidies, in some cases, premiums can double for Americans and make health insurance unbelievably unaffordable and unattainable. So if those subsidies expire at the end of the year, insurance premiums will skyrocket by more than 100% for the average consumer in the marketplace. That's insane. And to Greens credit, she actually cares about this issue because she is speaking out about it in a way that I'm sure members of her own party are not pleased by.

So to be clear, again, she has been railing against the Affordable Care Act. She sees it as a flawed policy and it's not like she's backing away from still believing that. She says, no, I'm not towing the party line on this or playing loyalty games. I'm carving my own lane and I'm absolutely disgusted that health insurance premiums will double if the tax credits expire this year. So she's basically saying, look, I hate this system. I don't like the Affordable Care Act, but this is the system we have in place right now. And without the subsidies, Americans are screwed. I want to do something about that. To her credit, she wants to do something about that. Now, Mike Johnson, meanwhile, the House

Speaker, of course, is calling the issue of ACA subsidies expiring a red herring by the Democrats. But Green disagrees, and she doubled down on that last night during an interview with News Nation. Take a look. The issues of the subsidies are real. It's not something that anybody can say is made up. Also, people with regular or private plans, their premiums are looking to go up a medium of 18%. That's brutal. I know a lot of small business owners, like a family of four, and they're paying $2,000 a month.

$2,000 a month with deductibles of 7,000 to 10,000 and approximately 40% of these people don't even use their health insurance. So they're just burning money just in case they might have cancer, just in case they have a terrible car accident. And then you've got single moms, many Americans that are really struggling that are on the ACA. If you double their health insurance or even triple it, these people are going to, they're either going to have to drop it or they're going to be choosing between rent and their health

I literally can't believe what I'm watching. Like that was amazing, she is right, she is right. And she's being specific, she's citing statistics, she has a firm, accurate grasp on the situation. But how Speaker Mike Johnson thinks, she's just not informed on this issue. Aw, hmm, sweet little woman, Congresswoman, she doesn't know. I know. I know better. You know, she doesn't take the corporate pack money. Johnson, on the other hand, does. And Johnson allegedly knows better. Right, sure. Okay, so he says that she's not on any of the relevant House committees. She doesn't know what she's talking about. Seems like she does know what she's talking about. And I hope she continues talking about it. And this isn't the first time that she's publicly disagreed with her own party.

with the GOP. She opposes sending more foreign military aid to Israel. By the way, it's not just Israel. She's been pretty clear about how she wants to stop sending US taxpayer money to foreign wars. She spoke out against going to war with Iran. And she's been one of the most vocal advocates of releasing the Epstein file, something that the Trump administration seems poised to continue covering up. But years after being on Donald Trump's side, being one of his most loyal, honestly sick offense, he is now reportedly shocked by her willingness to speak out against the Republican Party. In recent months, he called at least two senior Republicans to ask, what's going on with Marjorie, according to two GOP sources with

direct knowledge of the conversations? Well, it turns out that between the two of you, Trump, Marjorie Green actually ended up being sincere about America first. But you're a huckster, you're a liar. So why don't you hit up your good friend, Beebe, and figure out how much more you're going to have our country borrow to the tune of tens of billions of dollars to fund Israel's atrocities and war crimes? Anyway, back to the matter at hand. Green is adamant that she still supports Trump and has a great relationship with him. But in an interview with NBC News, she also said this, I'm not some sort of blind slave to the president, and I don't think anyone should be. I serve in Congress. We're a separate branch of the government,

and I'm not elected by the president. I'm not elected by anyone that works in the White House. I'm elected by my district. That's who I work for. And I got elected without the president's endorsement, you know, I think that has served me really well. Girard. Oh, I didn't even know that Trump didn't endorse her. Wow. Wow. She says more though. She says, so I get to be independent as a Republican. And I think that, I think what helps Trump the most is when he has people that are willing

to be honest with him and not just tell him what they think he wants to hear. Well, I think she's right. It would actually serve Trump to listen to critics rather than lash out at them, which he tends to do. I don't think he actually appreciates the fact that she's pushing back against members of her own party on the issue of the government funding bill, which is of course tied to the Democrats' demand that the subsidies for the Affordable Care Act be extended. I really appreciate the fact that she's really kind of coming into her own and is independent. I mean, I wouldn't have believed her if she said this even last year. But she's become more and more vocal in her disagreements with members of her own party. And she's not doing that to the detriment of her constituents and her district.

She's doing it on behalf of her constituents. And it'd be really sweet if we got a little bit of that all over the country. country, if we actually had local leaders who saw them, I'm not local leaders, but public servants, okay, members of Congress who saw themselves as public servants, who wanted to do what's right on behalf of their constituents. I think we'd be in a way better situation, a better country if our Congress weren't so corrupt, and if our Congress members refused to take corporate pack money. And because Marjorie Taylor Green refuses to take corporate pack money, that means she's untethered

to some of the obligations that all those other members of Congress are tethered to. So I give her a lot of credit. Obviously she has other opinions that I disagree with fully, but who cares? On this issue, she's right and the subsidies should be extended. If they're not, Americans are going to suffer. And if that does end up happening, we know exactly who to blame. All right, we gotta take a break, sadly. And when we come back, We'll do the second hour. Jank you girl will join us. And we'll talk a little bit about the reality in Trump's pharmaceutical drug affordability bill or attempt to make pharmaceutical drugs affordable through an executive order, not a bill.

Lots of interesting devil in the details moments in that story. So stick around for that and more. We'll be right back.