The Young Turks - Israeli Prime Sinister - October 9, 2025

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

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I need it! Let's go! All right, well, the Young Turks, Jane Huger, Yasmin Olai Khan with you guys. Yasmin's also on Rebel Headquarters, you're checking that out on YouTube, we know it. Also with us is Ange Plumbo, so I, of course, never get the handles quite right. But thank you for joining on TYT.com. All right. Now, on the show today, tons of news. So number one, we've got a deal.

We've got a deal as long as we can keep it, as Benjamin Franklin would say. The critical parts of that will explain to you in a minute. And then later in the program, Trump brags about killing freedom of speech. I thought he ran on it. So we'll give you the exact quotes you'll see with your own eyes. And then apparently a prominent right wing host online, although honestly I hadn't heard much about him, is now advocating for using immigrants as slave labor.

So this is where we are, America. All right, having said that, yes, good to see you. And let us see it. Yeah, I feel like it's been a while. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Okay. And I feel like every time we tune in, your background's a little different. You can see what I have going on in like this side, this corner of the room. It's very crazy in here. But I always try to keep it somewhat neatened up back here. Yeah, it feels. Yeah, I mean, I know you're in Texas. It does feel like it's you're that room has some southern charm to it. Well, I think it's also like my, this feels like my house that I grew up in in Connecticut, actually. And I didn't notice that I was like redoing my house to feel like my old house. But my younger brother pointed it out to me.

He's like this feels like your New England house. Well, look, you're on a well tread path on at the Young Turks because John Iderola also Connecticut to Texas product, having grown up in Connecticut that went to University of Texas. And they came here. Anyways, all right, we've got a huge story. So let's do it. All right, let's roll the tape on this first story. It's a big one. Looking ahead, what guarantees Hamas disarms and that Israel doesn't resume bombing once the hostages are?

Well, the first thing we're doing is getting our hostages back. Okay? And that's what people wanted more than anything else. They wanted these hostages back that have lived in hell like nobody has ever even dreamt possible. And after that, we'll see. But they've agreed to things, and I think it's going to move along pretty well. But what is phase two? When does it begin?

Well, I'm not going to talk about that. Well, the Israeli government is set to vote any minute now on the first phase of Donald Trump's peace plan for Gaza. And as you can see, he is already claiming all of this as a victory for himself. We're going to get into all the details of the plan. But first, Jank, this isn't the first time that we've heard of talks of a deal. Do you feel like this is any different this time around? Well, it's definitely different because significant promises have been made. And my guess is that those promises will be broken nearly instantaneously by Israel.

So then the question becomes, what do they, what does Donald Trump and the United States of America do once Israel inevitably violates this peace deal? So let's tell you about the parameters of the deal. How much of Gaza are they keeping for now? How much are they going to keep later? When will they actually withdraw? And what are going to be the consequences if they violate a peace deal? So let's get into it. All right. Well, the ministers in the Israeli government, they're expected to approve the ceasefire deal with a strong majority. But as of right now, that has not been confirmed. Benjamin Netanyahu's office is saying that once the deal is signed, a ceasefire. would begin within 24 hours. Additionally, a 24 hour deadline will be imposed for Israeli forces to initially pull back to retain control of 53% of the Gaza Strip. And that feels like a lot to me. Officials did not elaborate on the lines. Israeli forces would pull back too. But the White House plan indicates further withdrawals to around 40% than 15%. That final stage would be a security perimeter that would remain until Gaza is properly secure from any resurgent

terror threat. But that phase of the deal has not been hammered out yet. And as of right now, it is all incredibly vague. So we're still waiting for more clarity on what's going on here. After the first 24 hours and the IDS partial retreat, Hamas will have 72 hours to release the the living hostages, of which they're believed to be 20, 20 hostages. The expectation is that they will be released by Monday. The return of the bodies and of 28 deceased hostages would follow, but the timeline for that is not yet clear. So under Trump's framework, Israel would release 250 Palestinian prisoners serving life sentences

and some 1,700 people detained from Gaza since October 7, 2023, including including all women and children who were detained. So hundreds of trucks carrying humanitarian aid will also start entering Gaza. What a relief. Today, Trump said that he plans to visit the Middle East early next week to personally sign the ceasefire deal. And while the signing of the agreement could be a great development, Israel is already signaling that any upcoming ceasefire will be precarious at best,

which is not very encouraging. So Israeli defense minister Israel Katz directed the IDF to respond with great force to any threat or attack by Hamas on Israeli forces during the interim stage of the ceasefire deal. And that's what he told the Israeli media media on Thursday. Hamas officials say Trump verbally guaranteed that Israel would not resume bombing Gaza that after hostages are released, but Israel has made no such promise. And today when Trump was asked what security guarantees the US will make in Gaza, he provided no specifics saying only that he will work with very wealthy countries to make Gaza as good as possible.

The Riviera, the Middle East, I believe he said. There's still a lot that's up in the air about Trump's 20 point peace plan beyond the hostage release and negotiations on the second phase of the deal will focus on disarmament of Hamas, which has been a sticking point and Israeli withdrawal to secure the perimeter and day after governance of the Gaza Strip. So still a lot of moving parts that we're working with here, Jank. Again, there is progress being made, which is good, not just the release of those 20 hostages and also the deceased bodies of the hostages that were, that, you know, did not survive all this onslaught in Gaza, but also the release of a lot of the people who were

abducted from Palestine and were being kept in Israel. Yeah. That is progress. No one's mad about any of that, but it does feel, I think the word was precarious, right? It all feels very on shaking ground. Nobody is making any definitive promises. So we've seen Israel defy peace deals and see spires in the past. So I would like to think that this time is different, but I'm having a hard time.

What do you think, Jake? Yeah. So, all right, there's a couple of parts of this that are super important. So first, am I happy about it? Yeah, as I've said many times, I want the hostages back. I don't want Hamas to run Gaza. So there's no downside in that case. You know, the prisoner exchanges, the people of Hamas is getting back out, I don't know them.

I, that's not my primary concern. Marwan Bargudi is actually a person who could make peace. That is the main relevant person that Israel has and if he's released and he could actually be a force for peace negotiations to get to a Tuesday solution, that would be important. But mainly the issue here is, is Israel going to actually withdraw and how much are they going to withdraw, how much of Gaza are they planning to keep? and then will they continue to bomb Gaza? So Trump gave an assurance to Hamas that this war was quote,

once they signed the peace deal and return the hostages, this quote, fully and completely ended. Okay, now I would be shocked. I'll fall out of this chair if Israel never bombs Gaza again and fully withdraws at some point. I know it's not gonna happen immediately. We gave you the numbers a second or I'll come back to that, right? But if they actually do what they promised, it's inconceivable.

It's like never happened, never, and certainly hasn't happened in the last two years, right? So it'll be shocking. Well, let me be fair, no, I shouldn't say never, never with this government, right? Israel did make a peace treaty with Egypt and both sides did keep that peace treaty intact. So in the years past, there were actual peace treaties and they were amazingly successful. So, but this current government is run honestly by a bunch of crazed genocidal lunatics. And they've proven it over the last two years. I mean, there's no amount of Palestinian blood that is enough for them.

So I can't imagine this scenario where they wouldn't continue to bomb Gaza. So here, for example, why do I say that? Among hundreds of examples, the latest one is this week. I gave Trump a little bit of credit because after the peace deal was announced the first time around, He said to Israel, okay, that's it. Stop bombing. And Israel said, okay, after they bombed for three more hours. And then after the three hours, they're like, okay, okay, I think we murdered enough for today. We'll listen to Trump. And then right after that, after the press reported that, they went right back to bombing. You know, they bomb Gaza today. And they keep slaughtering people every single day.

So if you didn't hear, it doesn't mean that they didn't do it. They're continuing, like, the mass murder in Gaza. So they're addicted to violence, they're a terrorist state that can't stop doing terrorism. And why are they doing it? Just because they're evil? No, no, no, no. I mean, this cabinet that they have is, I mean, if evil exists, it's clearly Israel's current cabinet, right? But I'm not, I'm not interested in evil. I'm interested in actions, why they're acting. How can we get them to stop? How do we get to peace, et cetera? So in this case is Yazra to you. First of all, in the beginning, they keep 53% of Gaza. What happened? I thought it was about the hostages. You got your hostages back. You did your self-defense. You leveled all of Gaza. You committed a genocide. What else do you need? Why? Oh, you want the land. And now all of a sudden, conveniently, after the peace deal and after your genocide, you have more than half of Gaza. Now, they claim they're going to withdraw to 40%, which is already an abomination. And then to 15%, first of all, no, no. An independent Palestine, all of Gaza, all of the West Bank. Look,

We've got into details before about right of return, et cetera. Palestinians have to give up real and sizable things in order to get that peace deal. I'm very realistic and practical about it. But if at the end of this, Israel keeps anywhere from 15 to 53% of Gaza, they're going to think mission accomplished. We used October 7th, which would happen, was allowed to happen. I mean, there's tons and tons of stories about how a tiny little country they couldn't get across that country in six hours. The IDF, legendary IDF, oh, where did I put my gun?

Oh, let me go find it. Well, you know what, I'll wait four hours and then I'll go find it and go. Anyways, but either way, whether you think October 7th was like, oh my God, they were so fully prepared, but golly, gee, this was the one time of the IDF, you was just like catastrophically negligent, right? Okay, okay, no, but it doesn't really matter, even if you believe that or you think, that October 7th was a convenient and something that they wanted to use as an excuse to grab land. It doesn't matter. Either way, we said when they started this, everybody said, oh, self-defense, self-defense,

they should get to kill a lot more Palestinians, way more, way more, and they're doing it because, oh, they're the victims. Now, by the way, on October 7, they really were the victims, okay? So we said relatively early on, no, they're going to take the land. And everybody said, anti-Semite, that's a trope. Is it? Really? Is it a trope? that Jewish people go and take, that's not even a trope, that's not a thing. Jewish people have never done that before, and this isn't Jewish people, this is the government of Israel, right? So it doesn't matter, we said that they were going to take land and everybody, all of Israel

said, oh, outrageous, outrageous, right? Well, now they're saying, yeah, of course we're going to take land. At a bare minimum, we're going to take 15% of Gaza, but probably will take way, way more. And I'd be surprised if they didn't go beyond 53%, because the whole, point of this was to steal half of Gaza and and so I mean we're celebrating a peace deal because we're hoping against hope that Israel will stop bombing although they never do and we're happy that the hostages are back but at the end of the day Israel is going to wind up with exactly what they wanted which is a ton of Palestinian land.

Godly, gee, that just happened to happen. They didn't want it. The Palestinians made Israel take their land. And all of America media will repeat that. The Palestinians made the Israelis take their land. The Palestinians are anti-Semitic, and that's why they need to be murdered. Wait, isn't it bigoted to say that about Muslims? Shut up, nobody cares about Muslims.

You guys are all anti-Semites. Keep killing, right? So that's my guess as to what's going to happen. Israel isn't going to give up an inch of the 53%. They're going to try to get 60 and 7. And the whole thing. And one more thing is, so of course they are, by the way, like I said, they keep bombing, right? So when Trump told them to stop bombing, they ignore Trump. So when they ignore Trump this time, the real point of action, the turning point, the decisive point,

is going to be when Israel says, oh, Hamas didn't turn themselves in enough. They didn't turn enough weapons. No matter how many weapons they turn in is, I guarantee you, one hundred 100% guarantee. Israel will say they didn't turn in enough. How do we determine it? It's totally made up by Israel, so there's no way to determine it. So at that point, when they go back to bombing, tanking land, et cetera, will Trump go, look, guys, I said fully and completely ended, you are to stop bombing, that was the whole point of the peace deal, and you were to withdraw to your security perimeter, right? Then, and if you don't, we're going to end your funding. Well, then I'll give Trump a world of credit. And if he gets to Israelis to

comply, yeah. I mean, then we're having a conversation about peace prize, blah, blah, blah. I mean, you really get the peace prize if you get two independent states. But okay, but if on the other hand, once Israel violates the deal, if Trump goes, I got the hostages back, that was the thing. I got the house. So who cares about the Palestinians? Where's my money? Where's my money, Israeli lobby? Okay, yeah, go keep killing him. If he does that, then he was a con man. and he will have betrayed the Palestinians, violated every promise, and then tell the American people, no, no, we serve Israel, and we will allow them to do anything. And the whole peace deal was just a con job to get the Palestinians to give the Israelis

more land. Then if he does that, then he's going to get caught. Even his own base will be like, come on, brother. I mean, how much are you going to kiss these guys' asses? So that's in the future and we don't know that yet, but I'm afraid we're going to find out soon. Yeah, I mean, we still have a lot to keep an eye on with this situation. And even with this peace deal that's about that I guess we're about to get, I don't feel as though this is over. And I would love for that to not be the case, but it's just I don't see it happening.

I remember, you know, earlier today when we were talking about this story with the producers, I was like, what is, why is this one any different from the previous peace deals or ceasefire? that we've seen over there because we know that they don't always keep the ceasefire. And we know that they have a lot of this comes down to language. And I hate to diminish something that is so visceral to something like language. But whenever you exist within a space where there's like a lot of vague language that's being used, you can use that to justify all manner of things. And that's actually a point that's going to become relevant in a later story that we're going to cover on this show. But, you know, we're looking at 20 hostages that were that are going to be released from from, from Gaza.

But we also have 250 prisoners who are serving life sentences in Israel. And we also have 1,700 detainees in Israel. But those are detainees. They're not hostages. So I guess that's the difference. And I guess that's why 20 is is so much worse than 1700 plus 250. Also, they're finally going to allow aid to go through. That's nice, especially considering what we just all saw happen with the global summit flotilla

and what happened specifically to Greta Thunberg. And she has been out very vocal about not even specifically talking about what's happening to her, but talking specifically about the fact that, you know, they were there trying to deliver humanitarian aid to a war-torn nation. And Israel decided that they own all those waters and stopped them and boarded them and then tortured them. So also, Jank, this is, I can't tell if this is like a relevant point to make. So I'll just throw this in. I'll throw it out there for whoever wants to take it.

But the Republicans, they're so mad right now about bad bunny performing at the Super Bowl. And the reason that they're giving, because they can't say that it's because they're racist or because they don't understand that Puerto Ricans are actually American or whatever. The reason is that bad bunny is a bad role model for children and won't someone think of the children, right? And it's such a ridiculous argument, but I guess it's the only one that they have. Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson, he's the one who came out and said that. He's the one who is also not allowing us to allowing Congress to vote on the release of the Epstein file. So he doesn't care about children that much. Also, they don't care about all these Palestinian children that are being bombed and killed and dismembered an orphan.

They only care about the children that are going to be, you know, subjected to bad bunny at the Super Bowl. And like, I don't know, again, it's not relevant. It's not the biggest, the most important point, but that was the thing that stood out to me. It's like, how can you not care about these babies? But I mean, I really do hope that something good comes from this. So I thought you were going in this direction with it. I mean, bad role model, you worried about bad bunny. How about Netanyahu?

We're claiming he's such a wonderful special ally of ours. Oh, here's a role model that murdered 20,000 children. I think it's a little bit, even if you hate Bad Bunny, pretty sure Netanyahu is worse. But on the other hand, to be fair to some portions of the right wing, they've now turned on Netanyahu and are not fans at all, right? So, I mean, if the world shares one opinion, it is that we loathe Benjamin Netanyahu, which leads me to my final couple points here, which is, look, when Israel violates the peace deal, and you can, Look, guys, the reason I'm guaranteeing it is because the so-called surrender of Hamas is so vague. It's like they have to put numbers on it. If they don't put numbers on it, they don't put something on it.

Israel will definitely, there is no world where Israel says, oh, they surrendered enough. There's no way they're ever going to say that. So it's a guarantee they're going to violate it. Anyway, so when they violate the peace deal, especially after people think it's a real peace deal, I mean, there's people that are Gazans that are talking about going back into Gaza, because part of the deal is that the people of Gaza can now go in and out as they please, within bounds of reason, of course, it's still an occupation and Israel is still, they're tyrants that oversee them, but they're not supposed to push the Palestinians out,

and they're supposed to allow them to re-enter, and people are like, oh my God, I'm gonna go back to Gaza, we're gonna rebuild Gaza. And when that hope is crushed, I think Israel is underestimating, the fury of the world. I think that there's thinking, so what, we control everyone. We see, you know, everybody's complaining in America, online, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, well, we lost the right wing base.

Oh, the left wing, 92% of them now are against us. So what? We have 90% of Congress. We have 100% of mainstream media. So what, right? We have all of the power. Look, brother, I don't know how it ends, but I know that when you lose 95%

on the world's population, that's not going to end well for you. And so, look, I hope nothing bad happens to the civilians in Israel, et cetera. And I don't know what bad means, but I do know that at some point, whether we like it or not, there's usually consequences in nature when everyone around you thinks you're the most evil thing on earth and they're watching you slaughter kids on there on air, right? We see it with our own eyes. And if you keep going like that, I don't know what happens to that worldwide rage. You know, I know that a lot of Israelis and honestly a lot of Jewish people have been taught,

oh, the world hates you anyway. They all want to kill you, they're all anti-Semites, they're going to kill you, they're going to kill you, they hate you, they hate you, they get taught that and it's so destructive. No, the world didn't hate you. Netanyahu and this current sick government made the world hate you. I mean, what are we supposed to do? Are we supposed to be like, oh, you murdered 20,000 kids, Bravo? No, of course people are gonna react.

Wouldn't it matter if Cambodia did it, if China did it, Peru did it, or Israel did it. Of course, you're gonna be very angry at any country that creates that kind of massive injustice. And then what happens with that anger? I don't know, I don't know, but. they're playing with fire and Netanyahu is the most arrogant, sick man of my lifetime. Last thing is Barguti is not part of this deal. I want to be clear about that. What I'm saying is Barguti is a super relevant Palestinian figure who can actually get to peace. And that is why Israel has made it clear.

He will not be part of this deal. He will not be released. The guys who committed crimes, yeah, yeah, go ahead, right? We'll just round them up tomorrow. The 17, I don't care, the 250 that we're on death row, that's Hamas's business, okay? The 1700 that Israel detained, they're just like, just round up people, who cares? They have 20 hostages, let's take 2,000 hostages. We're Israel, we're allowed to do whatever we want. So I'm glad those guys are coming home.

But the most important guy is the guy who could make peace. And that's why Israel will not be releasing him, because this current government of Israel has absolutely no interest in peace. And you'll see with your own eyes, they'll prove me right. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we've got a lot more disasters for you guys. Trump brags. I mean, you're going to see it on tape. He brags, well, yeah, we ended freedom of speech.

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Prize picks, it's good to be right. All right, back on TYOTJ, Jenkins with you guys. Also, Lex, thanks for joining Lex. We appreciate it. Guys, tonight I'm going to continue our crowdsourcing the revolution. Interesting reactions to it, I'll tell you guys. You guys, a whole bunch of you came out with an interesting idea. So we're gonna do that at 8 o'clock Eastern, and then we've got an interview

after that. And then we get another little bonus episode. So lots to get to today. Stay right here throughout for all this programming. So yes, what's next? All right. Let's get into this next story. Only days ago, Nick Sauter was assaulted in Portland by a flag burning mob. And we've made it one year penalty for inciting riots. We took the freedom of speech away because that's been through the courts and the court said you have freedom of speech. But what has happened is when they burn a flag, it agitates and irritates crowds. They've never seen anything like it on both sides. And you end up with riots. So we're going on that basis. We're looking at it from not from the freedom of speech, which I always felt strongly about, but never passed the courts.

Well, Trump did a recent press conference where he addressed attacks on freedom of speech. which according to him are coming from him. He is the one who was attacking freedom of speech. He said in case you missed it, we took the freedom of speech away. Just like that, just took it away. So Grock actually confirms beneath that video on X that burning a flag is protected speech in this country saying flag burning in the US is a constitutionally protected First Amendment right over which the president has no authority. The issue has been litigated numerous times throughout history culminating in the landmark Supreme Court case, Texas v. Johnson in 1989. So I've got more from this press conference. But first, Jank, yeah, you're right. You know,

he ran on protecting freedom of speech. Half of the podcast bros, especially on the right, who were voting for him, they were the ones who were like, yeah, we want our freedom of speech and he's going to protect it, even though their freedom of speech was never actually being threatened at the time. They didn't really understand that. Now, here we are. We have Trump just took it away. Yeah, so we're going to get into details of how the Supreme Court has ruled on this and why Trump is wrong on the facts and the law. But most importantly, you all saw him run on freedom of speech, right?

I mean, he said it what, hundreds of times, thousands of times, we got to protect freedom of speech and yeah, we hate cancel culture. And you just saw it with your own eyes, quote, we took the freedom of speech away. So one of the questions I have, just listen to the whole story and find out, by the way, which conservative justice, legendary conservative justices agreed that this was a freedom of speech issue. And then at the end, if you're on the right or you voted for Trump, tell me how this isn't hypocrisy.

Because I don't see how it couldn't be hypocrisy in any other way. I mean, it has to be. So I'm curious whether folks will acknowledge it. But anyway, let's give you the facts of the story and we'll come back and analyze. Yeah, there's a lot to this story. So in this meeting, Trump accompanied by his secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Noem, addressed the rampant terrorism that is happening all across this country, perpetuated, of course, by the radical left, more specifically by Antifa. But the question is, who is Antifa? No one knows. The term Antifa refers to a decentralized movement or ideology representing anyone that is against fascism of any kind. use of the term goes all the way back nearly a hundred years to Nazi Germany. And it has been used many times since then across Europe and Asia whenever authoritative fascist regimes try to assert dominance over the populace. So still, Christy Noam claims that her ICE agents

recently picked up the girlfriend of one of the founders of Antipa. Take a look. They have been so bold in making sure we're bringing those individuals to justice. One of the individuals we arrested recently in Portland was the girlfriend of one of the founders of Antifa and that we are hoping that as we go after her, interview her and prosecute her, we will get more and more information about the network and how we can root them out and eliminate them from the existence of American society. But this administration, as we were talking about in the previous story, you know, they love to deal in these vague, broad terms. And that is understandable because the more specific terms,

they tend to confuse them. So here is a clip of Trump from that same press conference asking who in response to a question about habeas corpus. Have you given any more thought to possibly suspending Mbius corpus to not only deal with these insurrectionists across the nation, but also to continue rapidly deporting illegal aliens. Is it suspending who? Habeas corpus. I don't know, I'd rather leave that to Christy.

What do you think? No, sir, I haven't been a part of any discussions on that. And it's particularly funny that he asked Christy Noam about habeas corpus, because until recently, she also did not know what it meant. So Secretary, Noam, what is habeas corpus? Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country. No, let me stop you, ma'am.

habeas corpus, excuse me, that's, that's incorrect. So a lot of this comes down to rhetoric and diction, and that's no accident. It's no accident that Trump and his administration insists that protesters are part of a shadowy, radical leftist underground group called Antifa. It's no accident that they refer to any kind of dissent these days as terrorism. So this is from NBC News, says asked about discussions regarding invoking the Insurrection Act, White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said in a statement, the Trump administration is committed to restoring law and order in American cities that are plagued by violence due to Democrat

mismanagement. And President Trump will not stand by while violent rioters attack federal law enforcement officers. The administration will work to protect federal assets and officers while making American cities safe. The act gives the president broad discretion regarding its invocation. It can be invoked at the request of a state or when the president determines that conditions like unlawful obstructions, rebellion, or insurrection have made it difficult to enforce the law. During the civil rights era, three presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson used the act to protect activists or enforce court orders mandating desegregation. It was last views at the request of California's governor during the 1992 LA riots.

So finally, there's one more term that I want to highlight here. That is, you might have seen it in the news, it's plenary authority. First of all, what is it? So plenary, it's the legal information institute of Cornell's law school defines plenary authority as power that is wide ranging, broadly construed, and often limitless for all practical purposes. It is most often applied to legislative bodies as when government chooses to levy a tax or expend revenue. Lawmakers do not need to refer to the courts or higher federal power for authorization to act when they have plenary authority over a matter. So again,

very vague, very much up to interpretation what any of that even means. And with the Trump administration calling people terrorists just because they don't abide by the things that ICE are doing or even, you know, what's going on in all these various cities where the National Guard has been deployed. Also saying things are insurrections. We're not all insurrectionists, all right? We saw what an insurrection looks like. We all watched it happen live on January 6th. So watch what happened, though, when Trump Blackie, Stephen Miller appeared on CNN and seemingly like glitched after mentioning Trump's plenary authority. Well, the administration filed an appeal this morning with the Ninth Circuit.

I would note the administration won an identical case in the Ninth Circuit just a few months ago with respect to the federalizing of the California National Guard. Under Title X of the U.S. Code, the president has plenary authority. Stephen? Stephen? Stephen? Hey Stephen, can you hear me? Stephen, I apologize.

It seems like we're having a technical issue. Okay, so, Jank, before I go to you, I just want to note that even giving Boris Sanchez there from CNN, giving him the benefit of the doubt, that he really didn't know what was going on, that he really thought that there was a technical issue, and that is why he didn't press Stephen Miller further on what he just said. This portion of the interview is no longer available through CNN. They've edited this portion out. And arguably, you could say, well, there wasn't anything of substance in that clip. But I think most people would not agree with that assessment because obviously he said something that he feels as though he shouldn't have said.

Maybe somebody was speaking to him saying stop, stop, stop in his earpiece. But whatever the case is, I guess, you know, as somebody who is on camera for a living, maybe that's something I can try. If I say the wrong thing, I'll just stop talking and just like pretend, just freeze. Just freeze frame. What do you think, Jake? Yeah, you know, we've been doing the Young Turks for 23 years. So there have been a couple of times where politicians pretended that there was something wrong with their earpiece. And those were always hilarious. So look, I don't know what happened there.

Maybe there was a technical problem. Maybe, you know, he kind of glitched out as people are saying because he realized, oh, wait, I definitely shouldn't be saying this. It might be something they were planning to make a case for later. But it is curious that he happened to stop right as he was claiming that the president has, as he has explained, potentially limitless power, right? And that's when you, because that's part of the definition of plenary authority, right? And look, one of the things that will be key in this administration is Stephen Miller is 100% pushing for all the different things we've shown you,

including on yesterday's show, of things of calling anyone who they claim is not abiding by American family values, Trump, anyway, Christianity, do they consider anti-Christian? Except now, Hexas doing a purge of anyone who's ever criticized Charlie Kirk. I mean, this is like ludicrous stuff. And so calling people terrorists, saying you have unlimited authority, saying that there's an insurrection in the country? Really right now there's an insurrection in the country? Right now. Like you're all worried that the house is going to be taken over by anti-American forces and you're all bunkering down. There's no insurrection, right? They're using it obviously as an excuse to call

the left wing and any Israeli critic, terrorists, etc. So how is how are Trump voters going to respond to that? We know how the left is going to respond, non-Trump voters are going to respond. But, and we know that some portion of Trump voters that are on the right are going to say, oh, yes, yes, finally, limitless power, right? And screw freedom of speech and we never meant it. We just want to crack down on the left. We hate them so much and we want to use the power. But that is not all the right.

And that is not all the Trump voters. So the folks that are movable, at least the third of Trump voters, but I think even larger, are they just going to be like, oh, yeah, yeah, the big government taking away our rights. Now the president has plenary authority and I'm going to pretend there's an insurrection and I love that there's military in the streets and Oracle's founder talking about how we're all going to be monitored and all the citizens must behave and and now all of a sudden I love government tyranny or are they going to be like wait a minute we've been had we've been took.

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Okay, speaking of which on whether Trump lied to you or not, by the way, he's a politician. Do the math, right? But okay, he said in the first clip we showed you in this segment, we're going to take freedom of speech away. Let me go to a couple of clips from here's one from 2002. Let's see if Trump was consistent. Let's watch. If we don't have free speech, then we just don't have a free country. It's as simple as that. If this most fundamental right is allowed to perish, then the rest of our rights and liberties will topple.

Just like dominoes, one by one, they'll go down. The censorship cartel must be dismantled and destroyed, and it must happen immediately. The fight for free speech is a matter of victory. your death for America and for the survival of Western civilization itself. So if you take freedom of speech away, it's the death of America and the end of Western civilization. I'll remind you, he just said, quote, we took the freedom of speech away. Okay, now if you say, well, no, flag burning is not freedom of speech. First of all, Supreme Court has ruled that way. Anten Scalia, the most conservative justice of my lifetime,

voted with the liberal justice, so did other conservatives in saying, yeah, we hate flag burning. That's not the issue. The issues, are you allowed to say it? We hate the N-word. We hate any kind of bigotry racism, et cetera, but it doesn't mean you're not allowed to say it. The whole point of freedom of speech is to say unpopular things, right? So, but even if you were to say, okay, look, I don't think it's freedom of speech to burn a flag, even if the Supreme Court disagrees, even if the Constitution disagrees. But the question is, what does Trump think? Because Trump said earlier, if you hear away freedom of speech, the country dies.

And today he's saying, we took freedom of speech away. So he thinks it's freedom of speech, and he's taking it away. If you're still not convinced that this was like the biggest issue for Donald Trump, here's one more clip from the past. We will always, always protect free speech on college campuses. I am going to work very hard. very hard to protect free speech for all Americans. We will restore free speech, which we don't have more.

After years and years of illegal and unconstitutional federal efforts to restrict free expression, I will also sign an executive order to immediately stop all government censorship and bring back free speech to America. You just saw with your own eyes, he did the exact opposite. exact opposite. And that's not all. You know, he attacks anyone who he thinks is criticizing him. There's a politician going around, I don't like Jimmy Kimlin making jokes about me. I didn't like Stephen Gobert making jokes about it. Come on, guys. That's the guy that you want to support. Okay, forget the guy. Do you have principles? Did you believe in freedom of speech? Now, people often on the right will say, oh, yeah, well, and the Democrats were in charge,

Were you in favor of freedom of speech? Well, we've got tens of thousands of videos proving that we were in favor of freedom of speech and against cancer culture under Democrats, under Republicans. We have been consistent and principled on this from day one. So is the right wing going to be principled or are they going to trash their principles and go, oh, if Trump's taking away freedom of speech, I love it. Okay, yeah, Joe, no comics allowed. We hate, no jokes. No jokes think about us. Make jokes about the Democrats, but not us. But that's your freedom of speech, okay? And that's it.

Anyone who criticizes Trump died, we're going to take your FCC, we're going to look into their license. Let's take their license away. Let's take their speech away. Not only freedom of speech, but freedom of press. Anyway, Trump has admitted it, so you see it. Look, last two things here are, I'm not going to spend too much time on it because freedom of speech is so important. But look at the other two things. One is silly, the other one super serious.

The wife of Antifa. Now look, I know a lot of people on the right believe that Antifa is like this nefarious giant network of leftists and they're all coordinating being paid by China and Qatar and whatever else that they imagine in their lives, okay? I don't know who Antifa is. From time to time, actually many years ago, a couple of people popped up and they said they were Antifa. Where are they today?

I don't know. Who are they? I don't know. Have I ever run into a single person who claimed to be Antifa at the million left-wing conferences I've ever gone to? Never, right? Have I ever seen a leader? No. But now you caught the wife of the leader of Antifa or the founder. So who is it? Who's the so-called founder of Antifa, right? So guys, I know a lot of you on the right will not, and I address the left and the right. I assume everybody, I assume the whole country's watching. I know it's not necessarily the case, but I want to address all of you guys. And so for the right guys, like I know you think that that exists and that it's like. like some super nefarious group, et cetera. But it ain't, brother, there are randos that you don't like.

Of course, of course, there are protesters you don't like. There are people who cause property damage, et cetera, that you don't like. That's real, right? Some organized thing funded by other folks, et cetera, it ain't real. I don't know if you'll ever believe that, okay? But now let's go to the last thing, because that's kind of a silly one. The most important one, other than freedom of speech, habeas corpus is probably the single most important part of Western civilization.

So that goes not just to the US Constitution, it goes all the way back to the Magna Carta. And so what it is is the courts must, the government must present someone. It means presenting their body, it's a Latin term. You can't just whisk someone away, a tyrannical government, and never charge them and say, I'm gonna put them in prison for no reason, and I don't have to explain myself to the the people. No, you must show them, you must show evidence against them, otherwise the state cannot take away their freedom. And you saw clear as day in those two clips, Trump has no idea what habeas corpus is. How can you, if you could be a plumber or not know habeas corpus,

you could be a really smart heart surgeon and not no habeas corpus because you're not into politics or you're not a lawyer, etc. But you're the president, you don't know what habeas corpus, the foundation of Western civilization is? And then, okay, you can say, well, maybe, he knew, but he said he didn't know and he kicked it off to someone else. But Christine Obe, you saw it with your own eyes. She has no idea what habeas corpus is. The answer she gave was totally incorrect. She's the head of Department of Homeland Security.

I, even at this late date, I'm stunned by their ignorance. So look, I don't need you to be a rocket scientist and I don't need you to be like a PhD and whatever, right? But you got to know the bare minimum if you're going to run the government. Yeah, I mean, ideally you would hope so. But I can't help it feel as though Trump has put certain people in power, in government, specifically because they didn't know what they were doing so that they're not going to get in his way whenever he decides to do whatever he wants to do. And I think I was talking about this in a Rebel HQ video recently. But, you know, with George W. Bush, when he became president back in the year 2000, right, Y2K, what a time that was, you know, there was a lot of talk about how stupid he was, right? He didn't inspire a whole lot of confidence. And if only we knew what was coming for us. But at the time, the rhetoric that we kept hearing, the consolation that we kept telling ourselves was that, you know what, he might not be the brightest person in the room, but he surrounds himself with good.

people. You know, they all know what they're doing and they're going to guide him on the right path, right? We forgot about Dick Cheney. We didn't take him into consideration or John Bolton and a few of these other people, but that's what we told ourselves. With Donald Trump, the people that he had in his administration in the first term, a lot of them, from what we hear, they did prevent him from doing the worst thing, right? They prevented him from acting on his absolute worst impulses. This time around Trump has gotten rid of so many of those people, right? Deliberately, he put Pete Heggsad, just the most obvious example as the head of the Department of Defense. And that on its own is like he doesn't know what he's doing. We can all see that

he doesn't know what he's doing. He's made rookie mistakes that are so rookie that even people like me who have never served in the military can look at it and be like, why did you do that? Why didn't you know not to do that, you know, like, but that is who we have running our government right now. But you know, something else about freedom of speech. It always kind of fascinates me how someone like Trump can just go do a rally and say, you know, I'm going to protect freedom of speech because it's being attacked right now. We don't have freedom of speech right now. And people just nod in agreement. Like, yeah, he's right. Even though like, no, their freedom of speech was never threatened until right now under the Trump administration. Freedom of

speech has never been threatened the way it is right now. And he straight upset, we just got rid of it. You know, he just said, I don't think that this counts and I just got rid of that. And they're still doing this thing where they're just telling people what reality is. And then people just believe it, despite the fact that they can look and they can see for themselves that what they're being told is not the truth. And when I was doing this story, I didn't include this part, but, you know, with the Trump administration targeting all these blue cities, the people on right-wing media and from the administration. They keep telling people that these cities are literally on fire. Trump really thinks that Portland is on fire right now and that all these Democrat run cities

are overrun with crime and drugs. It's just everywhere and it's rampant. And they get away with telling people this because the majority of their supporters and their audience members don't live in those cities. So they just believe what they're told about them. Meanwhile, they're also being told that despite the actual footage contradicting what they're saying that ice is not you know straight up abducting people off of the streets and taking people out of their homes but an interesting clip that again i didn't include it in this story but you can find it online cat abigazale who is a progressive gen z she's running for from congress to represent chicago she actually was at one of these ice protests and she was thrown on the ground and she was

physically abused by ICE agents. And she went on News Nation to tell them about her personal experience, what she literally saw herself with her own eyes, what she experienced herself, the abuse she experienced. And she went on News Nation and the host just kept telling her, no, no, that's not what you saw. That's not what happened. That's not what is happening. And it was so bad that by the end of the interview, she just stopped talking to the host entirely and just addressed the audience straight, straight on and said, you know what, he can say whatever he wants, but this is what I'm telling you I saw. Yeah, all right, we got to take a break, guys. So when we come back, now some

right-wing influencers are arguing that we should take protesters and use them as slave labor. And that's if you don't kill them first. So that insanity when we return. All right, back on TYT, Jank and Yaz with you guys. Just one quick comment from a member on t.t.com. True sight dragon said Stephen Miller is the technical issue and then. Jank. Jank, are you there? Are you there?

What's happened? What's going on? Cenk, check, are you there? Are you there, check, check, check. He's been saying. Check, okay, keep going. All right, next story. I don't know who freezes more, Stephen Miller or Mitch McConnell. They probably seem to have a freezing issue. Anyways, all right, go ahead.

We have a defunct government. All right, let's roll the tape on this next story. As much as I would want them to run over the protesters, I think that would cause issues. And also, if you run over the protesters, I don't really care if they do it or not, But I wouldn't really, I don't think it's necessary. Only because I would want to utilize their bodies for compelled slave labor. Well, last Friday, right-wing streamer, Zach Hoyt, also known online as Asmond Gold. He made an interesting argument against ICE agents injuring protesters in cities like Chicago and Portland. Don't run them over because then we can't use them for compelled

slave labor. That's what he said. Jank, your initial thoughts to this. Yeah, I'm sure he said the same thing about the January 6 protesters. I mean, they're protesters. So I don't mind if you run them over and maybe break their legs as you're going to see in the video coming up or maybe kill them. That's no big deal. So what? You're going to go protest that Trump lost? Of course, they should be able to run you over. But hey guys, I'm not sure we should do it because maybe we should take those Trump fans and use them as slave labor. Now, if a left winger actually said that, and meant it, what do you think the right wing reaction would be? They would lose their minds, they'd be the angriest people you've ever met.

But yet, you're about to see the ass man here, tell you the same exact thing about protesters on the other side, curious what the right wing reaction is going to be. All right, well, this suggestion, right, it kind of came about whenever Hoyt was reacting to videos from independent media reporter Brendan Gutenschwager, who's been documented. some of the protests at Broadview, the Broadview Ice Facility. For potential copyright reasons, we can't show you the original video that he's reacting to. But just to give you an idea of what Hoyt was reacting to, the description on the original clip reads, protesters attempt to block a vehicle driven by an individual that displayed a DHS badge from advancing towards the Broadview Ice Facility.

And with that context, we can now hear from him. I just wonder if even the military can save a place like Deep Blue Portland, as over in Chicago? They absolutely can. The way that you do it is you take all of these people, you arrest all of them, you charge them with felonies, you change the federal law so people with felonies can't vote in elections, and then you effectively disenfranchise them out of the voting system. That way nobody has to deal with them anymore. And if they have a problem with that and they cause issues, then you put them in prison and you force them to work. There you go. Problem solved. Prison labor is always just an easy go-to solution, isn't it? So remember, it is legal to protest and it is protected in the First Amendment unless Trump decides to take that one away too. Which, you know, he might.

A civil disobedience by itself is not a crime and it can obviously lead to illegal conduct that then results in misdemeanors and felonies. But what Hoyt is suggesting is a little bit extreme. bit extreme, so here's more. Just put spikes on the vehicles. As much as I would want them to run over the protesters, I think that would cause issues. And also if you run over the protesters, I don't really care if they do it or not, but I wouldn't really, I don't think it's necessary. Like if a citizen gets their car surrounded, I think they have the right to drive through the protesters. I do, because it's endangering their life and every person has a right to self-defense and self-preservation.

preservation. That being said, if let's say you run over their leg, well, then we're going to have to fix their leg, and it costs a lot of money. And then you can't make them work in the prison because their leg could be broken or their arm could be broken. So it makes, it makes, it causes you to lose money in the long term. So I'm not, I'm not a fan of that. Only because I would want to utilize their bodies for compelled slave labor. That's the only reason. It's not like I have a moral obligation against it. Absolutely not.

No one would ever accuse somebody like this from having a moral obligation to anything. But to be clear, hitting protesters on purpose could result in a homicide charge, which then is a felony. Reuters reported back in 2020, a driver who deliberately ran over a protester or any pedestrian could face homicide charges and would need to prove that they reasonably believed that they had no alternative in order to avoid death or serious harm to themselves. So it's funny, I think I actually, I mentioned this in the last story. I believe, don't quote me on this, but I believe that Kat Abu Ghazali, whenever she was protesting in Chicago against ICE, it was at the Broadview Ice facility. And she says in that news nation clip that she was trying to prevent someone from getting run over by a vehicle. So these are

are real things that are happening. It is totally within the First Amendment right to protest and to be out there. But as I said, Trump just decides what qualifies as a protected freedom here in the United States. He has, you know, whatever he wants, that takes precedent over, you know, 250 years of the Bill of Rights or whatever. So, Jenk, I know you've got more, what do you think? Yeah, so look, I don't love that tactic of getting in front of cars. I mainly worry about the protesters, like, because some idiot is going to run you over. It's just a matter of time.

And, and I looked up, people get scared when their car is surrounded. So this, I don't like people going to their homes. And if you say, hey, Jake, you're that you're not a good enough activist. And then we like, you know, maybe put a little fear of God on them or something. Yeah, you, it's not for me. I'm the guy for nonviolence, et cetera. But on the other hand, protests overall, I love. Like, that's the most cherished American right there is.

And so, and don't get, don't get a twisted because somebody is, you know, blocking your way in a car, you don't have the right to run them over or kill them or break their leg or drive forward to, you know, cause harm to them. And no, your life is not in danger, right? Now, on the other hand, if you're shaking the car in your word, they're going to topple it, they're going to break into the car, they smash the windows, okay, then maybe your life's, but they just blocked it because they're doing our normal protests. No, you don't have to panic and murder them, okay?

That's not the only option you have. Okay, now to the heart of this. You remember when Republicans and right wingers were saying, hey, these Democrats, they don't have enough civility. They have to turn down the temperature. Their rhetoric is what's causing the violence. Now, this brother comes along. I don't know who ass man is.

I mean, people say maybe that he's got a following, but I've never heard of him, right? and his co-conspirator, Yeager Meister or whatever, right? And so, but this guy's talking about, oh, yeah, run over protesters. I don't mind it, he said. So you don't mind extreme violence running over somebody with a car, okay? But you know what, why don't we instead arrest them for exercising one of the most fundamental American rights, freedom of speech?

The one remember that you guys all pretended you were in favor of? I know some of them meant it, but apparently a lot of them, including Asman and Yeager Meister, didn't mean it. They thought, oh, freedom of speech for me, for me, to say that maybe you should be murdered or be made my slave. My freedom of speech, good. And by the way, I wouldn't cancel that. I don't mind him saying the terrible things that he says. Now we know who he is. So, and I'm not afraid of his speech.

I'm not afraid that the majority of Americans are going to look at that and go, oh, yeah, well, I think we should, instead of having freedom of speech, if anyone exercises freedom of speech in a way that I don't. like politically, we should arrest them, take away all their rights, make sure they can't vote, and then turn them into slaves. No, 98% of Americans are going to be against that. But assman thinks that's a great idea. So he's like, oh yeah, I'm for freedom of speech, unless it's left wingers. How dare they protest our government. Let's take away all their rights. Did you see what he said, make sure they can't ever vote again? Look, guys, it's a simple standard. Shoe on other foot. million times on this show. And I usually say in regards to, hey, if you're a Democrat and you're criticizing the right wing, now think about it if the shoe was on the other foot.

And I've said in both directions many, many times. So in this case, if you're a right winger and if some left winger came out there and said, oh, yeah, run over the right wingers that are protesting, protesting Biden, run them over with a car. I don't care if you break. They're like, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I have a better idea. I don't mind it. I don't mind it. But maybe we turn the right wing in this country to slave labor. We take away their freedom a speech, we take away their voting rights, we arrest them, we ruin their lives, and then turn them into chattel and furniture for us. What do you think your reaction would have been? If you say your reaction would have been like, oh yeah, that makes sense. The Democrats are

in charge, Biden's in charge, and if I protest them, I should be turned into a slave. Okay, then at least your principal. Okay, you want to make up some nonsense excuse why it shouldn't be done to the right, but it should be done to the left? Go ahead. You know, and I, apparently there are a couple of guys in the country who actually believe that. And I don't know if his followers were like, what an idiot. We set freedom of speech, dumbass, okay? Or if they're like, yeah, yeah, we hate freedom of speech now. Now that we're in charge, let's turn to slaves. I mean, really? I mean, I don't know. Are 13 people watching that show? Who would like that kind of monstrously un-American piece of crap like that, who doesn't believe in America

at all? It's, it's very difficult to make sense of their values and morals on that side because they're so, I don't know, I was going to say that they're inconsistent, but really it's just whatever is good for them is, is what, what they like. And then they don't want it happen. They can't apply something to one side that they don't want to apply to the other side. I think it's what I'm trying to say. But it's very confusing because there's, there's no consistency as far as.

values and morals go, especially on the right, what's, what's more interesting is that they still preach and pretend to be the party of family values and they like good things and they're good Christians and everything that that entails. And, you know, the implication there is that we're good Christian people. So we have good morality and high values and everyone else does not. That is, you know, the, the part that goes unsaid. But, you know, at the same time, they're saying, you know, I'm okay with with protesters. who are doing something that they're well within their right to do, I'm okay with them getting run over and then using them as slave labor. You know, we can talk about prison labor if you want, you know, that's a whole conversation and people feel one way about that. But at the same time, you know, that's not what we're doing here, right? We're just, you know, sewing more and more hate over and over and over again. I don't understand why people are mad at protesters. You have the right to protest, right? If people find you annoying for protesting, then that's one thing, you know. But being annoying is not something that you can outlaw.

That is not something that is illegal to be, to be, right? And so whenever we have people who are saying things like this, I mean, I don't consume content like this. I can't imagine that Aspen God, Gold, whatever his name is, I can't imagine that he is watching this show right now either. But, you know, it just doesn't seem helpful. Not that I think he's trying to be helpful, but there has to be some kind of like higher purpose to doing work like this, right? You have to care about something a little bit. You have to

have some kind of like moral basis or just some reason as to why you're doing what you are doing whenever you're sitting there talking about these things. And maybe the shallow answer is that you're doing it because the pay is really good, right? Maybe these people are making so much money doing what they're doing. Maybe they're getting paid by whoever their donors are, thousands of dollars a month, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars a month from what we've heard from others. And, you know, maybe that is all it takes to motivate them in one direction. But at the end of the day, like, it's been 10 years of this. Like, aren't you tired of just saying the same thing over and over and over again, sticking to your inane talking points and sewing

hate and discord in a country? Don't, wouldn't it just be nicer if we could all just get back to a place of something resembling normalcy? Like, aren't we talking? I'm tired by now. I am very tired. Yeah, last two quick points here. Yeah, of course he's doing it for the attention. There's now this like a cottage industry now folks. We're like, look at me, daddy, look at me. I'm saying the dumbest thing on the internet.

Congratulations, you must be so proud. But unfortunately the algorithms also reward that. If you are more extreme, the algorithm likes it more and it rewards it. So we've got a toxic situation on a lot of these platforms. But one quick note I wanted to make, you said, you know, So a lot of these people think that they're good Christians. You know, and some of the right wing I challenge, for example, hey, if you're pro-life, why aren't you concerned about the 20,000 kids Israel killed in Gaza?

But you know what happened? Then some pro-life people, Tom Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green, et cetera, started saying, yeah, wait a minute, I'm not in favor of anybody killing kids. Why are we paying for Israel to kill kids? And I was like, alright, out of boy, that is. You know, we could disagree on other things, but that is what a good Christian would say, right? Especially if you're pro life and obviously there are a lot of good Christians that believe in a variety of things. In this case, I don't know who what their religion is and I don't really care.

In fact, I was wondering, wait, are these guys normally pro-Israel? And I don't know that either because I've never heard of Asman and the Yeagermeister. But if they're pro-Israel, then I worry a little bit like is this setting up for if you protest Israel's control of America? No, that's it. You agreed to it. You agreed to protesters can be run over or turn into slaves. Now, and you protested it, that's it, slave labor, right? We took away your voting rights.

So now if you want to vote against Israel, you're not allowed to. I don't know, I really, really, really don't know. But it doesn't really matter, doesn't matter if they do it for Israel or for their own purposes or for Timbuktu, it doesn't matter. Are you an American and do you believe in this country? Because the First Amendment is not unclear. We all have a right to not only speech, not only press, but to actually protest, to ask the government for a redress of our grievances.

It's in the First Amendment. So if you don't believe in the right to protest and the right to freedom of speech, you might technically be an American by birth, but as a matter of principles, as a matter of who you are, you don't actually believe in country you want a different kind of country that's tyrannical and you're deeply on American yeah all right we're way over time we gotta go all right so yes you're awesome thank you so much and when we come back guys yes letitia james has been indicted

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