The Young Turks - Israel's Underhanded Scheme - May 20, 2025

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

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track. A hell of a show for you guys. I'll just give you two topics we're going to discuss. One is yes, unfortunately, we've got news on Gaza and Nanya who is flagrantly announcing a genocide proudly so we're going to explain it to you guys. It's undeniable details. And then later in the program, I think that Bernie Sanders appearance on Andrew Schultz is a litmus test. It's I almost think everybody should watch it, and then you should tell us which side you're on, right? Because I'm on Bernie's side, and I'm curious who's against Bernie. I'm super curious, super curious. Those addicted to losing.

Yeah, all right. So we'll get to that a little bit later in the program. It's a super important topic. And then tonight, we promised you a third rebellion pack candidate, or at least I did, and we deliver. So tonight you're going to have at 8 o'clock Eastern, the third Rebellion Pact candidate, and you guys are going to love him. It's a name that a lot of you are familiar with, but we'll get to that at 8 o'clock tonight. So let's get started.

Anna. Well, we begin with the genocide that we called the genocide when it was abundantly clear that that was the case. So everyone who denied it, I'm awaiting your apologies. But in the meantime, there's this. The Gaza's a nasty place. It's been that way for years. I think it should become a free zone.

You know, freedom, I call it a freedom zone. Yeah, well, Gaza is a nasty place, as Trump put it, because the United States aided and abetted, the slaughter of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, the complete and utter destruction of nearly every single building in the Gaza Strip. That was all done with United States bombs that were paid for by American taxpayers. So we'll get back to Donald Trump in just a minute, but I actually wanted to focus a little bit on what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying about his plans for the Gaza Strip, because he has allowed for some humanitarian aid to enter the Gaza Strip today, but not because he's trying to avoid a genocide, but because he's trying to give the illusion that he's attempting to avoid a genocide. He says, and he says this straight up. I'm reading his quote. We're going to take control of All the Gaza Strip, Netanyahu vowed Monday in a video released by his office announcing that Israel would begin delivering minimal humanitarian aid, food and medicine only. Okay, so we knew that Israel was going to take over the entirety of the Gaza Strip on day one. To me, it was abundantly clear. They were going to exploit the horrific atrocities that were committed by Hamas on October 7th, 2023.

They were going to use it as an excuse to do exactly what they're doing right now, exactly what they've been doing. doing for a year and a half. Netanyahu claimed that the international pressure, including from pro-Israel Republican senators and the White House reports drop site, required the appearance, required the appearance of humanitarian intervention. Our best friends in the world, senators I know as strong supporters of Israel, have warned that they cannot support us if

images of mass starvation emerge. They come to me and say, we'll give you all the help you need to win the war, but we can't be receiving pictures of famine. So to continue the war of annihilation, Netanyahu said that we need to do it in a way that they won't stop us. So again, the humanitarian aid isn't meant to save anyone's life. The humanitarian aid is meant to lessen the pressure on Israel to end the war. So they can finish the slaughter, they can finish the genocide that they've started.

Yeah, so we're gonna get to the end game of how they're gonna do what they are now almost literally calling the final solution for the Palestinians. So, but first on this on these matters, you notice he said we're going to do minimal aid. Like we're going to keep them at near starvation levels, but try to make sure that they don't starve on camera because it's proving awkward for the Republican senators that we bought in America. And they'd like to help us in murdering these people and ethnically cleansing them and taking the Gaza Strip. But they're having trouble helping us along those lines. And by the way, why are they having trouble? Because now right wing voters have started to rebel. And they're not, you know, as they're not all humanitarians.

A lot of them are concerned about money. And a lot of them are concerned about America first, as opposed to following the orders of Israel like a dog, okay, which is exactly what's happening now. Anyways, but they're saying, look, these Republican senators are as vicious as we are. But they have a better strategy on optics. We keep them at starvation level, but not enough, but not all of them are dying. That way we'll be able to ethnically cleanse them, which is the part we're gonna get to. Now, the second part there is, I don't wanna gloss over it. He said we're gonna take all of the Gaza Strip.

So now, if you're in the camp, understandably so in the beginning, you thought, oh my God, October 7th, we're defending ourselves, of course, and oh, we're the victims, et cetera, and Israel's a tiny country, and we're surrounded by enemies. et cetera, et cetera. I understand all those justifications, et cetera. Now we're almost two years in, and it turns out we were right, we told you that it wasn't just about self-defense. They meant to take Gaza and ethnically cleanse the Palestinians. Now, the people who are Israeli supporters said a billion times that they were not going to do that. And that in fact, anyone who said they were going to do that was anti-Semitic. Right.

So now are any of those people going to have an ounce of integrity and honesty and say, okay, look, I didn't know. How is I supposed to know that Netanyahu and Smok, et cetera, were that evil? Maybe I should have them, but I didn't know, but you guys were right, and I can't have it. I can't have it on my conscience. Or are you going to say, well, I mean, yeah, well, we had to, we had to. Hamas made us steal all of the Palestinian land. Hamas made us ethnically cleansed two million Palestinians. Hamas made us starve their babies.

Bingo, I think that's the answer. And if you say that, understand you're going in a museum one day, next to Smotrich, et cetera. And we got devastating Smotrich quotes. He's definitely going in a museum of can you believe that a human being said this, and the world did not revolt and did not stop these monsters. In fact, the United States provided more bombs, okay? We provided more bombs for this slaughter, for this slaughter. And Jake, I take issue with you framing this in any partisan way, because I guarantee you,

I can go on Twitter right now and prove it to you, there is a plethora of Democrats who see what's going on in the Gaza Strip and they love it, they defend it, they do it every single day. This is not a partisan issue, there is scum on both sides of the political aisle in regard to supporting what's happening in the Gaza Strip right now, and they should be called out. So I want to be very clear on this show we're honest and we call out all the powerful. So is Anna right about the Democrats? Well, it's indisputable. What are you going to say that Joe Biden helped the Palestinians? He definitively chose not to help the Palestinians.

He allowed their wholesale slaughter and he financed it and he gave him over $20 billion to do it. So don't tell me that every once in a while he wagged his finger at Netanyahu. He didn't. So if you believe that, you're such a deluded person. And you probably still think that Joe Biden's 35 years old and was the best Democratic candidate. And there's no talking to you because you've lost your mind. Okay, I'm not addressing those people. I'm addressing the rest of folks who live in the same planet, okay?

So now, so hence, are the Democrats, you know, guilty here as well? Of course they are. But I'm not making it partisan Anna. Netanyahu said are Republican senator friends. And in fact, if you're on the left and you say, aha, you see that the Republicans are worse. Well, if Trump allows Netanyahu to do the ethnic cleansing, et cetera, you've got a good argument for them being worse. And if you're a Republican, don't tell me that Biden was bad. If Trump's like, oh, I'm going to make Americans ethnically cleanse Gaza, that is worse, right?

Don't tell me that Netanyahu didn't say I have the Republican senators my back pocket. And we're coordinating on how to murder these people and make the American taxpayers pay for it. Because he did say it. We just read you the quote about how his beloved Republican senators are helping him. Okay? Now, but if you're on the left, one last thing. Right wing voters are coming in your direction. Please say yes. Please don't be a moron and a selfish prick who says, oh, I want to remain morally pure. So I will not accept Republican voters who are anti-war. I don't believe them. I'll never believe them. I'll hate them for the rest of my life. And it means that Palestinians get murdered. I don't care because I'm morally pure.

I never had to soil myself by talking to Marjorie Taylor Green, who wants to make sure that Israel gets zero dollars so they don't continue to slaughter. But I am more pure than Marjorie Taylor Green or Tucker Carlson. I'm the most morally pure. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're actually saying I don't care about morality. I don't care that these Palestinians are going to get slaughtered as long as my brand is clean and safe. Hey, let's talk about your expense report.

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All need self-defense classes? You will. For what? It's a big dog. SAP Concur helps your business move forward faster. Learn more at concur.com. And look, I want to be clear about the distinctions here, because there are Republican voters who see the slaughter in the Gaza Strip, and they're disgusted by it, and they do not want to support it or fund it. There are also people in positions of power, people like Marjorie Taylor Green. Am I deluded enough to think that Marjorie Taylor Green gives a damn about Arabs, Muslims,

Palestinians trapped in the Gaza Strip? No, no one's deluded enough to think that. But I know that she doesn't want to spend money on it. I know that she doesn't want to spend money. U.S. taxpayer funds on bombs so Israel can continue dropping them on the heads of all those children in Gaza. And you know what? At this point, when you have Republicans in power, I'll take it. If you don't take Marjorie Taylor Green or anyone else, and if you're a Republican

and you don't take Rokana or AOC or anyone on our side as allies in stopping the atrocities that Israel is doing, because you'd like to remain in your silly mind, morally pure. You're a disgusting person who says, I'd rather have these people be murdered than stain myself or my precious brand. Okay, so I'm done with that. I'm just talking to decent human beings who actually want this madness to stop. So now let's find out what extra atrocities these people are going to carry out with our money under our name. And please, if you're a decent human being, I don't give a damn if you're a Republican or a right winger or a left winger or a Democrat or in the middle.

Please let's stop these monsters from butchering these people with our money. So let's go to Basel L Smotrich, which Jank had mentioned earlier because his quotes are even worse, if you can believe it. Basilel Smotrich said the aid scheme would allow our friends in the world to continue to provide us with an international umbrella of protection against the Security Council, meaning the UN Security Council, and the Hague Tribunal, and for us to continue to fight, God willing, until victory. Victory means, you know, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and then the stealing of the Gaza Strip, that region for Israel. Jeremy Scahill writes that in an emergency press conference to address criticism from his own base in Israel, Smotridge explained why the appearance of allowing aid is necessary on a strategic PR level, okay? He says the aid that will enter Gaza in the coming days is the tiniest amount. They say it openly, they say it overtly, okay, and you still have people in the United States gaslighting the hell out of us about, Like no, no, no, no, they're our special ally in the Middle East.

We must protect Israel at all costs, they're not doing anything wrong. It's a democracy, don't you know? Let me give you more. A handful of bakeries that will hand out pita bread to people in public kitchens. People in Gaza will get a pita and a food plate and that's it, exactly what we are seeing in the videos, people standing in line and waiting to have someone serve them with some soup plate. Truth be told, until the last of the hostages returns, we should also not let water into the Gaza Strip.

But the reality is that if, the reality is that if we do that, the world will force us to halt the war immediately and to lose. It would be winning the battle and losing the war. I'm committed to winning the war. Let me give you two more quotes. He says, this is maybe the worst one. We are disassembling Gaza and leaving it it as piles of rubble with total destruction, which has no precedent globally.

I'm glad he knows what a piece of garbage he and his allies in the Israeli government happen to be, okay? This is unprecedented. The type of destruction, the type of slaughter that we are engaging in, Basel L Smotrish is saying it. He's saying it. It is unprecedented. Yeah. Okay, I'm so angry right now that this is what we are using, our finite resources to support, to fund. He continues to say, there are pressures. There are those who attack us. They are trying to make us stop.

They are not succeeding. You know why they are not succeeding? Because we are navigating the campaign responsibly and wisely, and that's how we'll continue to do it. Smotred said that the Israeli forces are initiating a campaign to force Palestinians into the south of Gaza, and from their, God willing, to third countries, as part of President Trump's plan, this is a change of the course of history, nothing less.

And to be sure on this issue, Donald Trump so far has been complete and utter garbage. He is definitely supportive of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The only area where he might be a little bit of an improvement from Biden is that he's unwilling to go to war with Iran for now, but that could change at any moment. But as it pertains to the Palestinians and the Gaza Strip, so far from what I guess, gather is gonna happen next, he's worse than Biden. We don't know that, yeah. So far, based on what he's saying publicly,

he just said this. No, I know, you know, you're right. What he said publicly so far is worse. Some of his actions are better. I'll get into that in a second, okay? And then is there any hope? We'll get into that as well. So let's just break down these quotes real quick.

So he said, if we could, we wouldn't even let water into Gaza. So forget starving them to death. Within three or four days, they would all die of thirst. Get his face off the camera. No, no, so this guy, so look, what am I supposed to call them? Am I like, would the Germans have starved babies to death? Yes, back in the 1930s and 40s. Would they have considered maybe dehydrating them to death?

Certainly, and they killed 6 million Jews and 13 million people overall. So there isn't anything that they would, but am I, but is starving babies or dehydrating them to death better than what the Germans did? No, no, it's a real question. It's a literal question. So like, I know that that folks who support Israel love to get offended. Good, good. And they think like, oh, murdering those children is no big deal. Me getting offended is a giant deal. You should, your diploma should be canceled, you should be arrested, you should be deported, you should never have a never be able to get another job.

if you offended me because offending me is a giant, giant problem. We literally have congressional hearings over it. We literally do kidnappings on American streets over it, right? But actually, over 16,000 children already killed in in Gaza. And now Smotrich, as you see in the second half the statement says, now if we could, we'd murder them all. We'd starve or dehydrate them to death, but we have a PR problem. And our friends and allies in America who are giving us money to do

this slaughter and genocide, there's such good people. The American people in their open heartiness have decided to help us murder these Palestinians and, and then drive them out of the Gaza Strip entirely. Then we steal all of their land. This is again, we just read you the quotes. So there's no argument left. There's absolutely no argument left. So they're saying, yes, we're gonna drive them out. We're gonna first drive them into southern Gaza into this uninhabitable place, we're going to give them the tiniest amount of food so they could barely survive, and then we're gonna start shipping them into other countries so we can steal our homes, so we can steal their entire land.

And so don't tell me that wasn't their purpose, wouldn't they just said that's their purpose? So if you're still supporting this particular government of Israel. Get to know yourself. No, yeah, look at the mirror. Get to know yourself, get to know who you are, okay? Get to know yourself, you're not a moral person. And can I just say, like a lot of folks, and I give them a lot of grace, because I've dealt with it because I'm from the old country, right? I came here when I was eight, and I know a lot of people from the old country.

And in the old country, everybody's so obsessed with their own identity and they can't think straight. But here, we're in America now, okay? Are you an American or aren't you? Because I'm an American, and I think like an American. And so when I think like an American, I think that everyone is equal. And I don't think that my original home country is somehow magical, and that it can't do anything wrong, and that I must protect whatever its government does, and that they're like there's just a magical, magical ethnicity who can't ever do anything wrong, who can't ever have a government that goes

right wing, extreme right wing, and then fascist. No, it can't happen. It can happen to any other human being, any other race, any other religion, but it can't happen to mine. I don't have that magical thinking because I'm an American and I believe that we are all equal. Yep. So do you believe the same thing or are you still holding on to childish, childish fantasies about how your own race or religion or background is somehow so chosen that even if they say we're going to murder all these people in the most vicious ways possible, that somehow you've deluded yourself into believing, nope, doesn't matter.

Even we could murder babies and still be the most moral, awesome people. And you owe us money. And you better give me another $300 billion. Otherwise, you've offended me. I'm the one who is offended, they say. No, we're done with that. We're done with that. So I don't care who's offended at all.

And again, this is nonpartisan. If you're offended by us working with Republicans who'd like to stop the war, there's something wrong with you. There's something that says the life of Palestinian children are not as important to me as staining my morality. Oh, I don't want to work with right wingers. God damn it, man. Care about humanity. Care about those people. Instead of your own stupid brands and your own stupid reputation.

And that goes double for the Republicans. Hey Republicans, oh, beloved Trump. And what's he doing? He's getting dog walked by Netanyahu. He sure is. Dog walked. Okay, what happened in America first? What happened to America first?

Oh no, but first there's shit. You know what we did? You guys, the right winners were so proud. O Doge, we cut malaria funding. Now kids in Africa are going to get malaria, but that's okay because America first. We cut cancer funding. We cut Medicaid.

Right? Okay, oh Israel? No, we can't cut there. No, to send them bombs to murder people and start people to death and to steal their land. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Kids can get malaria, kids can get cancer. I don't care. But we must send $4 billion, 8 billion, 20 billion more of our money to slaughter these Palestinian kids. If that's your priority, whether you're right, on the right, or on the left, or wherever the hell you think you are and you think the number one priority for America should be to make sure that Israel has enough money to slaughter more Palestinian

children you're a disgusting person disgusting and you definitely definitely are not America first you're not anywhere near that A few days ago, Donald Trump had a sit down an interview with Brett Bear on Fox News, and the topic of Gaza did come up, and he reiterated what he's been saying about his plans for the Gaza Strip. Let's take a look at that. And you think the Israel, Hamas, the situation in Gaza is going to come to an end soon? The Gaza's a nasty place. It's been that way for years. I think it should be. become a free zone, you know, freedom. I call it a freedom zone. It should become a freedom

zone. It doesn't work. Every 10 years, they go back. They have Hamas. Everybody's being killed all over the place. I mean, you ever see, you talk about crime stats. It's a nasty place. Are these people, these countries that you were just visiting, are they going to have to be a part of the solution? Well, they would be. They would be. I spoke to all three of them. They would absolutely be. I mean, they're really, really, really, really, even more than rich. They're good people, and they would help. So money's not even the problem. You got to get countries to say yes, to take them.

Look, these are people that want to be in the Middle East. They really want to be in the Middle East. They love the Middle East. I see that. There's a spirit for the Middle East. They didn't have to go to Sweden, Germany, these different countries. They could have been home in the Middle East if somebody had the brains to build beautiful communities. Yeah, the U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, okay, and will ethnically cleanse Palestinians

to Arab majority countries. And I mean, that's what they are, right? They're just Arabs. All Arabs are the same, aren't they? They want to be in the Middle East? What difference does it make if we force them off of the land they're entitled to? Their own land. Okay, it's so disgusting. So then there was this Barack Ravid thing. Let's talk a little bit about Barack Ravid over at Axios, doing the same BS that he did for Biden, right? The constant laundering, oh yeah, you know, my sources tell me that Joe Biden's applying a lot of pressure for a ceasefire. And then we find out after Joe Biden's no longer in office, and this is based on what

the Israeli government has said in Israeli press, we didn't get any pressure from Biden for a ceasefire, we didn't get any pressure. So then Barack Ravid tries the same garbage when it comes to Donald Trump, saying that, you know, Donald Trump saw, he's very disturbed by these images of these starving children, these children who are maimed, he's applying pressure on Israel. No, he's not. No, he's not. There's no reason to believe that Donald Trump is applying pressure on Israel to stop the slaughter in Gaza. No evidence whatsoever. Later on though, I guess to his credit to some extent, here's what Barack Ravid wrote. An Israeli official told me that at the moment Netanyahu doesn't

feel strong pressure from Trump. If the president wants a hostage and ceasefire deal in Gaza, he needs to put much more pressure on both sides, the official said. I don't believe Trump is applying any pressure at all. I think that might be one of the few examples of Netanyahu telling the truth. I think Netanyahu would love Trump to go to war with Iran on behalf of Israel, and that's the one area where there's some resistance from Trump. But as it pertains to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, Trump doesn't give a damn.

He sees this as a business opportunity for himself. Let's be clear about that. Yeah, so there is one thing that Trump has done, or a series of things that Trump has done, that's real. So he circumvented Israel on doing a deal with the Houthis. He did not agree to attack Iran as Netanyahu ordered him to. And he circumvented the Israelis and getting the American hostage back home. So those are three tangible things that he did that Israel was unhappy about. And so Biden did zero things that Israel was unhappy about.

But Biden was barely awake, obviously, right? Now look, guys, I've lived in a gaslit world my whole life. So when we would say these things that are super obvious, mainstream media would say, how dare you? Joe Biden has wagged many fingers at Netanyahu. He has written strongly worded letters, and you are being unfair and unreasonable to the beloved Joe Biden. What happened now, guys? What happened now?

I told you, Joe Biden did absolutely nothing. He's as guilty as anyone here. Now, is Trump a good guy? No, everything Anna said is true. And he has promised to do worse than Biden. But the fact that he did those three things is a tiny bit of hope. Why? Guys, do I think that Donald Trump is some sort of angel? And God, he's such a humanitarian. And there's a report out today that he's looking at the starving kids in Gaza and that it bothers him. Does it bother him? I have no, that would be shocking, okay? So, but what has happened is Qatar and UAE and Saudi Arabia have

funneled a tremendous amount of money to Donald Trump, both to America in terms of defense contracts, et cetera, but also personally to Donald Trump. And if you say Donald Trump will not be affected by that money and you're on the left, have you ever met Donald Trump? Do you know who Donald Trump is? Donald Trump is obviously affected by the money. And if If you're on the right and you think Donald Trump is an angel and would never be affected by money, again, I can't talk to you, you're not on this planet, you're on a different planet, right? So is it possible that the Arabs could outbribed the Israelis?

Yes, it is technically possible. I hope they do. And they do have more money, okay? So how would it work? There's two possible solutions here. One is Israel goes in and does the Smote Rich and Yahoo plan where they keep them at a minimal levels of near starvation, they push them into the southern Gaza, and then eventually Trump does deals with Arab countries and some sellout Arab countries are like, oh yeah, for money

for my own dictatorship or whatever, yeah, I'll let you, I'll help Israel ethnically cleanse these people and steal Gaza, and I'll put them in tent camps in Riyadh or wherever, okay? Yes, that's Israel's plan, and could Trump back that plan? Yes, is he more likely to back that plan? Yes, okay, there is a second plan. The second plan is, roughly speaking, the Arab plan. And so the Arab plan is, hey guys, hey Trump, do a ceasefire with Hamas, get Israel to do it. And it's super easy, you just say, I'm not gonna give you any more money.

They'll do the deal instant, right? It's not complicated, we give them like unlimited billions of dollars every year. Yeah, I literally can't keep track. I thought it was four billion as a guarantee. Then it turned out to be eight billion, but that eight billion might have been on top of the four billion. And earlier there was 20 billion. So it's like it's unlimited supply of money to Israel because they bought all our politicians. If you think they haven't bought our politicians and our politicians think this is the most moral

thing to do and that's why they're sending them unlimited money, you're a moron. Let's be honest, I'm sorry, but that's like for pea brain people. Oh no, but the politicians were not affected by hundreds of millions of dollars spent by the Israeli lobby. Because they're so morally pure. You would have to be really one bottom 10% intelligence to believe that, right? or a mainstream media reporter. So in the Arab plan, they what, however they do it, bribe Trump enough or whatever. And at this point, I don't even care, okay, I just need that genocide to stop.

So then the Arabs would come in after the ceasefire and go, we're not letting Hamas run Gaza Strip. A coalition of Arab countries will send in forces to run Gaza Strip until they finally had go through a long track record and gain independence. And then then you'll have an independent Palestine. Okay, that way, by the way, you would solve the area for good. You would have finally a peace solution like Israel and Egypt did. In this case, it would be Israel and the Palestinians.

The Egyptian deal worked perfectly. This deal would work. The only people who say wouldn't work are people who think Palestinians are subhuman. And no, they're such savage animals that they'll always resort to violence. They're not like any other human beings. No, every human being does a peace deal and at some point gets beyond the violence, right? Right? Would that apply to Palestinians? Of course it would. If you say it wouldn't apply to Palestinians, you're deeply racist. Okay, so let's just move on from that. So at that point,

then you have an independent Palestinian state and an independent Israeli state. And you know what happens? One, Israel gets a safe haven for Jews. And we all, the whole world, and especially America, polices that and the Arab coalition polices that. The Palestinians get their independence and Donald Trump gets a Nobel Peace Prize. Now, I know what people on the left are going to say, There's no way, there's no way. I know brothers and sisters, it's less likely. Way less likely. But because of the bribes coming in from the Gulf, it's now at least a possibility.

Since it's a possibility, it should be incumbent upon all of us who love peace and don't want a genocide to work together to push towards that possibility instead of the possibility that is much larger, which is Israel finishes the genocide. and they have a and they execute their final solution for the Palestinians in Gaza. So the people who are in favor of the Israeli solution is almost all of Washington. Almost all the Democrats and almost all the Republican politicians. Less Democrats, the Republicans are almost completely corrupt. The Democrats are only like 80% corrupt, okay? And the opposition led by people like Bernie Sanders and wonderful people say, enough, enough, no more money, not a nickel to Israel, okay?

But the people who want to do the right thing, we have to unite. If we don't unite, we won't have anywhere near power, enough power. The other side is super powerful. But at this point, an overwhelming percentage of the American people are sick of this. That every day we work hard, we come home and go, sorry, hon, but we can't afford a new TV. We can't afford this, we can't afford that. Why? We had to send money to Israel to murder more Palestinian children so they could steal Gaza and

finish their final conquest, okay? So sorry, we just, I can't pay the rent, we're gonna be homeless. Maybe we can go on Medicaid. We can't go on Medicaid, we can't do anything, because our money went to Israel to slaughter these people. So anyone who agrees with us, again, I don't care, if you care where somebody is on the political spectrum, on this issue of genocide, there's something wrong with you, right? I don't care where you are on the spectrum.

If you're in favor of stopping this genocide, unite and put pressure on Trump, to actually take the Arab deal rather than the Israeli deal. It's not easy, it's super hard. It's at least easy to understand if you care about the Palestinians. All right, when we come back, we'll talk about that interview that Bernie Sanders had on the flagrant podcast, and well, the Democratic establishment is big mad because they are addicted to losing.

We'll be right back. All right, back on TYT, checking out with you guys, more news. Well, Bernie Sanders had an interview on the flagrant podcast. One of the hosts, of course, is Andrew Schwartz, and he said some pretty provocative things. They started to label us the podcast bros and said that we were. sexist and we were racist and bigoted. It's almost like it's the exact same strategy to get you out of there. And then you get to what we call identity politics. You're black, you're wonderful, you're tremendous, you're the greatest human being on earth. And rather than say, what do you

what do you stand for? We felt that over the last four elections, Democrats, we felt, that we didn't have a say on who could be president. There hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008. Also a threat to democracy. We often hear. Fair enough, this is a good discussion. Why are you shocked? I'm shocked because I don't want to make stuff. You're asking questions that are not often asked. Senator Bernie Sanders is catching a ton of heat over his views on the Democratic Party's treatment of our system of government, democracy, how we run our elections, which was the centerpiece, by the way, of the Democrats' 24 election cycle.

But before we see all of that commentary from Senator Sanders and what the fuss is all about, I do want to just quickly touch on what he had to say about identity politics. First the context though, Jank, because 2015, 2016 Bernie Sanders was very, not very, but he was different from 2020 Bernie Sanders. 2020 Bernie Sanders, I feel that he felt he had no choice but to infuse his campaign with the identity politics in order to, you know, keep the identity obsessed off his back when, you know, he wants to focus on the bread and butter economic issues that honestly appeals to a much broader base of voters. But nonetheless, let's take a look at how that part of the conversation went down.

We have a question we want to ask about what happened to you in 2016 with this Bernie Brose movement where your, your followers are seeing they have a racism problem. Do you think that's a super PAC thing behind that? That was the Democratic establishment. During this election, the podcast space, which the Democrats largely avoided, they feel had some influence in the election, and they started to label us the podcast bros and said that we were sexist and we were racist and bigoted. It's almost like it's the exact same strategy to get you out of there.

Yeah, that's what the liberal elite China does. And then you get to what we call identity politics. You're black, you're wonderful, you're tremendous, you're gay, you're the greatest human being on earth. Yeah, yeah. And rather than say, what do you, what do you stand for? Exactly. You're gay, that's fine, who cares? Yeah, yeah.

But what do you stand for? I love that Senator Sanders focused on, you know, the content of someone's character, what someone stands for, politically speaking, what their objectives are. you know, when they're pursuing a position of power, because that does matter the most. It absolutely matters the most. The identity politics situation is so dumb because what it does is, I mean, Wals talks about this so perfectly, I can't articulate it as well as he does, but it just gives you this illusion of actually moving toward progress for marginalized groups of people in this country.

When in reality, we're talking about elite people who get to enjoy positions of power, but they think exactly the same as the neoliberals, even the neoconservatives that have destroyed this country. Yeah. So this Bernie interview is a Rorschach test, and it's a litmus test. So let me explain how it's both. Rorschach and then when you look at it, you can see it depending on your perspective very differently, right? We look at it and we go, that's obviously true, right? Oh, and thank God he's finally saying it because we were worried that between 2020 and now, he had not been saying it, right?

But he's saying a bolder stance against identity politics and against the democratic establishment. Now, as a person who's populist left, you know, the economic wing of Bernie movement, that to me is perfect. It's mana from heaven, right? So, but for the establishment, it's very clear. They love identity politics. I'm going to explain to the second why they love it so much. So they hate it, right? They I now see like the rad libs or whatever they will call.

Yeah, rad libs is perfect, right? So those folks who are like, no, Binds the youngest person in America, he's an infant. Kamala Harris is the greatest candidate that's ever happened. She would have won 50 states if it wasn't for blah, blah, blah, the rascally kids. And so for those, the crazed Democrats that like got trained and brainwashed on MSNBC that have now come online, right? So for those guys, they hated, they look at the Rooshock And they go, ugly old woman. I don't want it. He criticizing Democrats and our beloved identity politics.

I hate that guy, right? So that's easy. To me, what I'm curious about, and I'm genuinely curious. I don't know, I mean, you might have a better sense of it, but we're mainly going to see it in the reaction going forward, right? Is what are our friends on the far left think, right? Because so a lot of them are economic populists like us. There's a lot of overlap, right?

They should not be pro-establishment. I mean, if you're far left, you shouldn't want to. anything to do with the establishment, right? So, but are they so wedded to identity politics that they're going to join the Radlibs and go, no, since Bernie's not doing identity politics, we're out. I don't know, I don't know. Jane, I think, I think they're the same people. I think they're the same groups of people, okay? So these are individuals. And look, there's the Democratic establishment that has an interest in leaning into the identity politics, essentially, fracturing the democratic base based on identity which makes it even more

difficult to work together as a broad coalition that pushes for economic prosperity in this country because think about how things have been playing out over the last decade for instance right on the Democratic side you have all of these little fractured groups of people right you have black people Latino people LGBTQ community and every single one of them has essentially been conditioned to hyper focus on social policies that specifically apply to them and benefit them. And it's not just benefit them as in their group, it's benefit them literally personally.

Yes. Right? So this is not for the masses, this is for among the elites, there's a certain number of categories of really good jobs that are going to get filled. That's why you constantly hear about like, well, it's important to have, you know, fill in the blank representation and I could use my own identity like oh it's important to have Muslim representation now does that brother go to fight like hell for the Palestinians and make sure that Israel doesn't get any more funding etc sometimes and I hope so

and then that representation would make a difference but oftentimes they don't do that at all whether it's Muslim black gay whatever it might be they get that position to represent people then do they know do they fight for a higher minimum wage so that you can uplift black and brown communities and all communities across the country? Do they fight for health care, et cetera? No, they leave all of that aside, and they only focus on identity politics. And that is why the establishment loves identity politics, because it takes the place of real action. Yes. Because if you, so it's a lot of, you know, like, seeming action of like we're fighting them on LGBTQ issues, right?

But wait, are you? Because they pass bills all over the country and you really did nothing about it, right? But rhetorically, we are wagging our finger at them. Yes, but did you pass paid family leave to help moms get some time off? No, no, no, we didn't do that. But that's okay because we're American heroes because we're fighting for these vulnerable communities. Right, now look, representation isn't a bad thing necessarily, but when- As long as you actually represent- Wait, but hold on, but when representation is literally used as a substitute

to passing policies that uplift the very community that individual is representing, What the hell is the point? Yeah, so look guys, it's actually super easy to understand when you take out Democrats and put it in Republicans. So Dr. Oz is Turkish. Was I supposed to go, hey, I need Turkish representation in the Senate, right? No, he was a Republican Trump supporter with the wacky ideas. So I was against them, even though it would technically get us representation. Because he doesn't actually represent Turks in America, right?

So now, and Ben Carson and Herman Kane, it said the list goes on. Very easy to understand. But when you put in a corporate Democrat who also does nothing for black people, Muslim people, et cetera, it's gay people, et cetera, they go, no, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. As long as Pete Buttigieg is giving us representation, he doesn't actually have to do anything. Yeah, and it's just, it's nefarious in so many different ways. It fractures the Democratic coalition based on identity.

It makes the coalition, I mean, there isn't a coalition, a fractured group of Democratic voters, I guess, who are less willing to work together on a common universal policy or cause that would benefit all of them, right? And at the same time, identity politics is used and weaponized as a way of destroying politicians that the Democratic establishment doesn't like, right? So that was what Bernie Sanders was kind of talking about in the last clip that we were watching. But he asks the question, okay, well, what do you stand for? And in this next clip, he explains what he stands for. So the issue is what you stand for, which hits you back to what we discussed earlier, class politics in the sense of which side are you on? Are you going to stand with working families? Are you going to raise the minimum wage to a living wage or not?

Are you going to guarantee fight to guarantee health care to all people or not? Are you going to demand that the wealthiest people start paying their fair share of taxes or not? Those are the issues. And no one cares what color you want, you know, what gender is, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, that blazer is amazing. Okay. It really is. Okay, sorry, that's a side note.

No, but these are his values. And they're universal values, like, or values that would apply universally in the form of policy for the American people to benefit all of us. It's easier to pass universal policies because there's buy-in by various groups of people not based on like one identity or the other. And it's harder to repeal universal policies like Medicare, like social security. Okay, it's harder because everyone pays into it and everyone gets to benefit from it. Yeah, so this is now the litmus test because if you look at that and you go, no, I, you know,

I hate him now, he's saying he almost made fun of people in different ethnic groups. Oh, he's not doing any politics. I hate him and I'm not going to join his class action. Okay, well there we have it. Yeah. I love that class action. I love uniting us all. I love black people in the movement.

I love white people in the movement. I love gay and straight people in the movement. I'm not going to tell any of them to shut up. I'm not going to tell any of them that they're inferior. In fact, I'll be livid if anyone says to any of those groups. any of those groups that they are inferior or they need to know their role, none of that's going to happen. It's not going to happen against black people. And yes, it's not going to happen against white people. I know on the left, they'll say, it's never happened against white

people. Okay, whatever, I don't care, stop dividing us. Stop dividing us, okay? So you're even for, in for that class action that Bernie's talking about, or you're not, okay? So make a choice. And again, I don't know which I know the rad lips. They're gonna be like no way. And remember, a lot of the rad lips are rich and they're upper middle class. And they don't want things to change. That's why they Bernie bothers them more than anybody does. Exactly.

Because Bernie actually me unlike Trump, Bernie means it. So when they see Bernie's nails on a chalkboard for them. They're like, oh, he would change my privilege position. Identity politics, identity politics, right? Yep. So now, but again, for my friends on the far left who we thought we agreed with on 98% of issues, I hope you still hold on to your principles that you stated, I mean, unless your principles have changed and you don't care about those things anymore, and you

only care about culture wars, then okay, then that's your call. So finally, let's get to the clip that all the fuss is about. This is what really set the Democratic establishment off. Let's take a look. We felt that over the last four elections, Democrats, we felt, that we didn't have a say on who could be president. We talk a lot about the Republicans being autocrats

and oligarchs and taking over democracy, but from the Democrat perspective, and I'm a lifelong Democrat, I felt like the Democratic Party completely removed the democratic process from its constituents. And I think they need to have some accountability of that. No one you mean here.

I don't need for you, I mean, I wanted you to, like, 2016, I was like, this is going to happen, this guy's going to do it. And it felt like they, it felt like they stole it And I'll be honest, it broke my heart when you, when you supported them. Ostensibly, there hasn't been a fair primary for the Democrats since 2008. Are they not also a threat to democracy? We often hear fair enough.

That is, that is, yeah, I'm not going to argue with that point. I mean, but where's the lie? They're upset with him. Yeah, I don't care. Where's the lie? Because if I recall, after Kamala Harris and the Democrats in general were sure, Act in the 2024 election cycle, you know, you had a few Democratic lawmakers who were establishment individuals, by the way, who were willing to come forward, do a little bit of self-reflection,

and some of them recalled what happened in 2016. And they fully admitted that the Democratic establishment did whatever they needed to do to ensure that Bernie wouldn't be the Democratic nominee. And so where is the lie? Explain that to me. When you have the Democratic establishment manipulating the primary process in order to ensure their gal is the Democratic nominee, even if they know that the base was far more interested in making Bernie Sanders the Democratic nominee. So Anna, I keep going back to the far left in this case, because there are allies in this fight normally, right? And so I know which side the establishment Democrats are going to come out on. They're going to come out 100% against that statement by Bernie, and they're going to say,

how dare you, the Democrats are pure as a driven snow, they're all angels. And if we just go back to another corporate Democrat, everything will be fine, we'll just go, you know, Hillary Clinton 2.0 or Biden 2.0, we're gonna, everything's gonna be great. Give me Buttigieg Newsom, we're good, right? Although they're mad at those guys these days too. The Radlibs are mad at everyone, like, and they make no rhyme or reason, it makes no sense. They're mad at Buttigieg for going on that same show, Flagrant. Andrew Schultz is a lifelong Democrat.

How many times does he have to say it, right? No, not good enough, not good enough. We have slight disagreement with beloved Democratic politicians. So those guys are, I love them, and I hope they get come to their senses. I hope they snap out of it, and I hope they come and join us. And I think a lot of them will, right? But a ton of them will stay in that corner, and those will be our opponents in the 2028 primary. Those are going to be the Buttigstay guys, et cetera, right?

And they're always going to, corporate's going to corporate, right? So now the rest of us have to rally around a populist that takes up Bernie's economic mantle here. And here in this interview, he's planting the flag and say economic populism. And he's not unclear about it. And stop listening to Democratic leadership, which by the way, I'm glad he learned that lesson recently. Okay. So, and I love Bernie and I love what he's doing here. And I like that he's come to the right strategy now as well as the right policies, which he's always had, right? So I hope our brothers and sisters on the far left go,

okay, guys, I hear you. We'll pick up the fight later. But in a primary, of course we're going to vote with the Bernie side. We're not going to vote with the corporate side. That's my hope. I think that's what's going to happen. But if that doesn't happen, then we're going to be fractured and the corporate guys are going to win.

All right, let's take a break. When we come back, we've got more for you. We'll talk a little bit about how Elon Musk might have been sidelined from the Trump administration and more. Don't miss it. Tony Dragon said Bernie's retiring has nothing left to lose. He wants to leave a good legacy. This is vintage Bernie we're seeing about his appearance on the Flagrin podcast. Couldn't agree more.

I wish he did that the last four years with Biden, but that's a touchy topic. For now, I love that Bernie's back. Bruce City, Mike writes, and you could agree with Bernie and want him to go further. He's still using 2016, 20 ideas, which while still valid need to be pushed further. I disagree. I think those were popular ideas. I think he actually lost some support in 2020 when he succumbed to. the identity police and look, if you want to fracture the Democratic Party, meaning the voters

within the Democratic Party and literally get nothing done, great, let's keep going in the direction we've been going in. But I'm a little bit sick of like this me, me, me, my group matters the most, F everyone else. Not only is it immoral and not effective, it's a sure fire path to losing, which is, in my opinion, one of the main reasons why we continue to lose. But we don't know what Bruce City meant by that. He might have meant, for example, hey, instead of $15 million wage, we should now be pushing for $17 million wage.

Oh, I mean, if that's what you're referring to, I agree, but I've seen his comments before. And I suspect that's not the case. Okay, we don't know, but thank you for writing in. Carrie writes, and by the way, you can write in a clarification. Carrie writes, write writes in. As an Air Force vet, Israel is not our friend. They're one of, if not still the top spies of America. D.C. has been occupied.

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Visitor writes in, I think one of the hardest realities Gaza has taught us is that there are those around us and in power who do not value morality the way we do. Right. Oh my God, brother. So yeah, look, this is one of the things I get most upset with mainstream media on, and how they pretend that the politicians are good, honest, decent people, the honorable gentleman from Connecticut, etc. They're not honorable at all. I think the overwhelming majority of them are crooks, they just take donor money and do whatever the donors

tell them. So that's why Net Yahoo is a monster. He's one of the worst terrorists of our lifetime. And how many standing ovationists has he gotten from our deeply, deeply corrupt Congress? And yes, there's more Republicans than Democrats who do that. But the great majority of the Democratic Party usually goes to those events and applauds Netanyahu and takes money from APAC and brags about it. So these parties are bought, I can't stand it. The best path, in my opinion, is to retake the Democratic Party and bring it to the values of FDR and Bernie Sanders and get corporate PAC money out, and that's why Rebellion does that. But if you're looking for morality, as Tyrion Lannister would say, if you're looking at Washington, you've come to the wrong

place. By the way, if you're viewing this video after our live show, just know that we like to get comments from our members, super chats, and from our Twitch community. All live viewers, we take their comments, read them, and engage with our live audience. So you can do that by watching and commenting during our live show Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Pacific, 6 p.m. Eastern, and we go for 2.5 hours. Yeah, and then the last parts for members only, last couple of members here from YouTube. These are just members now. All the guys I read. Aaron Bush knows, I'm not sure even

the Arabs have that much money. We're talking about how they could outbribe Israel earlier in the program with the 400 million for the Qatar jet and a couple of billion dollar deal that the Trump organization is getting, et cetera. I don't know, we'll see. By the way, there's an update to that story. So apparently now there are allegations that Trump's the one who approached the Qataris about giving him that $400 million jet. Yeah, yeah, I'm not at all surprised by that. But, you know, at this point Trump's corruption, if it heads towards the Arab plan instead of the Israeli plan for Gaza, might be an ironic silver lining. Aaron Bushnell wrote in, I'm sorry, Susan Blackburn wrote in, which my tax dollars was funding the National Weather Service.

I wouldn't have to say up all night so I don't die in a tornado that wasn't warned or worn properly. Yes, instead of that getting funded, your money's going to Israel, your money's going to $5 trillion. in tax cuts and the big beautiful bill. And so it's a disaster. They never, ever give it to you. There's actually an economic principle called middle out, where instead of giving it to the very richest people, you give it to the middle class, they spend it quicker. And that actually revitalizes the economy better. That's the correct strategy that progressives and populace should be in favor of. And people like Bernie Sanders and Rokana are. Antilu says, thanks for covering Bernie on the flagrant pod. Good interview. Last couple of here. Burning says,

I can already hear the ladies from the view going rabid over Bernie again. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah, and in fact, we're not covering it today, but just earlier, they came out and they were furious at anyone questioning Biden. Oh my God. Of course, of course. They're like, how dare you? Biden was like one of the great presidents and he was just an, look, it's just the fact that they can't see that they're doing propaganda is amazing. It's amazing, okay?

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