The Young Turks - It's Giving Gestapo

Episode Date: March 29, 2025

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All right, so John, of course, damage report, Maas Rebel headquarters, Ma's also comedian, make sure you're checking them out, you guys know all this. Okay, we got some killer stories for you guys, unfortunately, sometimes literally. The first two have to do a little bit, well, the second one's about Israel and a massive war crime that they're planning. Later in the story, later in the show, we're going to tell you about how Trump is ripping off his own voters. He's already taken about $8 billion off of them, kind of. We'll explain what we mean by that a little later in the show, or as the kids call it these days, podcast. But we're going to start with a story that has to do with Israel, but really is about America.

So let's start with that one, John. Yeah, we're going to be starting off with some pretty messed up video. Why don't we jump into it? This Ramesa O Turk is a Turkish national who's maintaining an F1 visa as a Ph.A. student at Tufts University. She was arrested yesterday. You'll see it on camera. after writing an opinion essay criticizing the university response to the demands that tough quote acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel. And I imagine there's more to her case. I love the message it's sending to other students causing unrest. Yeah, I think disappearing a PhD student off the streets around a university because you disagreed with an op-ed they wrote over a year ago certainly sends a message.

I think most people are loving right now. So we're gonna get to that, but Jank, what do you think he's implying with that? I think he's implying that you better watch yourself. If you criticize Israel, mass men will show up in the middle of America and whisk you away in a van to a secret location. And God knows if you'll ever get out. So that's definitely the message that they want to send. And there's Brian Kilmead on Fox News, cheerling in it. Yes, oppression and tyranny.

And by the way, not even for this country, for a totally different country. It's amazing how they do that, but one of the big questions we have and it's in the live chat poll too is, is this going to make any Trump voters realize that this is a freedom of speech issue and that they should actually stand up for this person? Or are they just going to be like, oh, whatever, foreigner? We never met speech anyway. Speech, who cares? I mean, against Israel. No, you're not allowed to do that. I don't know. I don't know. Let's find out, John. Yeah, maybe they have a defense mechanism, though, that we just saw trotted out by Brian Kilmead because sure, it looks bad when someone who's just been quietly working on their doctorate for the better part of a decade writes an op-ed and you kidnap her. That sounds bad. But don't worry, he imagines there's more to it. That's Brian Kilmead's response. He sees tyranny on video, no evidence of criminality, no allegations of crimes being committed. But he imagines there's more to it. It's nice when you give the dictator the benefit of the doubt. Well, anyway, what's interesting and especially ironic about this when it comes to Brian Kilmead is Brian Kilmead has talked about effectively what we saw there, a Gestapo. People going around,

maybe not even with the uniforms on and enforcing the will of the authoritarian leader. Only, of course, he wasn't talking about Donald Trump doing something like that. No, back in 2022, he said that under Joe Biden, the IRS, would hunt down and potentially kill taxpayers. Watch. Before the IRS took it down yesterday, there was a posting. Watch this, on their website that listed the job requirements for a special agent's position. The major duties require agents to quote, carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force if necessary.

A little like James Bond, but instead of hunting down evil maniacs, these agents hunt down and kill middle class taxpayers that don't pay enough. It's Joe Biden's new army. I love that you need to clarify that in this nightmare, it's at least middle class taxpayers that are being gunned down. If it's poorer taxpayers, that apparently doesn't even merit a conversation for Brian Kilmead. And we all know that the last couple of years, the IRS did rack up quite the kill count of taxpayers. So he was right there, obviously, we got to give credit where credit is due. But it is funny when like you, you know, under Joe Biden, you fantasize about this sort of thing happening. And now you're seeing it.

And rather than being consistent or even maybe just like briefly pushing back and saying, Hey, I don't agree with her op-ed, but like, could you at least allege that she threw a bottle or something? Maybe Molotovs? No, nothing like that. He imagines there's probably more to it. And to go back to the original point that he had made about the message being sent, which I do agree, it's sending one. Lawrence Jones, also of Fox, apparently likes that message. He wants speech to be chilled. Take a look. I am concerned about free speech. I am a free speech absolutist.

And so I wonder, what is the criteria here? Should we be deporting people who say criticize America and American policies? What's the line? Or is it only if you criticize Israeli government policy? So there are a lot of free, really good people right now who are very concerned about the chilling effect. this could have not just on these green card holders and these people on visas, but what's the message to American citizens about free speech? So I would just say this, Rachel, I see your point.

I see how it could be chilling. But I want chills to run down the spines of not only terrorists, but people that are residents here. You're visiting here. You don't have the right, be on your best behavior here. And what we're dealing with is people that don't love the country, people that have radical ties, and I think they're trying to use our laws against us at the time. I love the day of using the laws against us, like the rights given to you by the law or the

Constitution. That's not supposed to be for you. That's you using it against us. I briefly was going to have to have the uncomfortable experience of giving Rachel Campos Duffy credit for something, but don't worry. Once he said he wants them to apparently live in terror that if they post the wrong thing online, they could be deported, she immediately agreed with it. So it seemed as if she was being kind of consistent about free speech. She's an absolutist after all. But again, as soon as like the prospect of somebody who cares about Palestinian kids being bombed, living in terror, suddenly the absolutism fell apart and she was totally fine with it.

What do you think? Yeah. So lots to talk about here. First of all, in terms of Duffy, I think the only reason why she even said that comment is not because she genuinely thinks it. And to be fair to her, if she does great and I wish that she would have seen. stuck up against her colleague who were like, yeah, I mean, you want to take away the speech rights of people living in America to serve Israel. And then America could be second or maybe third or eighth.

And you know what? And well, it's terrorize them because they're the terrorists. You literally just said you wanted to terrorize people, by the way. Let's just note that. So, but the reason I think she's saying it is because a lot of right wingers are now going, wait, not a lot, but some, some. And remember, they don't care about the left at all. They don't care about any of the rest of us.

But when some folks in MAGA are like, wait, we're rounding up people for if they criticize a different country. But by the way, again, I emphasize this every, you can criticize America all day long. She wrote an op-ed about how America was the worst thing on the planet Earth. She'd be perfectly fine. Norway, have that it. Saudi Arabia, no problem. Israel, round them up, round them up.

And so this idea that it's not Israel or you're not allowed to say that it's Israel is, I mean, it's a very sad joke. Green New Dealer Dragon wrote in on Twitch. And I love doing the show with our members. I love their questions, their comments, et cetera. Be part of that. Hit the join button below. They wrote in, do we know where exactly the Israeli black site is in Louisiana?

That's a literal question. They're making these people disappear into a black site in Louisiana and not saying where they are. So Israel has some sort of dungeon in Louisiana that they're running. I mean, of course, we're paying for it. We're running it, et cetera, but we're doing it on behalf of Israel. But don't worry, they're only kidnapping people with student visas. Well, also legal residents, green card holders. But it's not like they're coming out of an unmarked van with unmarked clothes and masks on,

like there's some sort of terrorists looking to terrorize as Fox News is bragging about now. Oh, no, right, that's exactly what they're doing. And then he says, Jones does, you know, we want him to be on their president. best behavior. So criticizing Israel in an op-ed is not your best behavior. Why? When did that become illegal? Most important thing for you guys to understand, Supreme Court precedent is that people who are in the country legally, no matter what their citizenship status is, have the same protections as American citizens on constitutional rights, including freedom of speech. So if the courts now take away that right from people who hold student visas or who have green cards

and are legal residents here in America. That means they're also beginning to chip away at that right for U.S. citizens. And soon, no one will be allowed to criticize Israel. And if you do, you'll be snapped up in the streets and taken to a black site that they're running in Louisiana. So, and this, and by the way, superlizing before I kick it over to Maz is that what John mentioned there in the beginning about, oh, he imagines they have a good reason for it, is what I'm seeing all over online. For the folks who are being hypocritical about this in the right wing, oh, free speech for me, but not free speech for you, right? Free speech against America, but not free speech against Israel, right? For those guys, their excuse that I see a thousand

times, by the way, whether it's this issue or other issues like Trump's corruption, which we're going to talk about later in the show. Well, I'm sure it is a good reason. I'm sure there's secret evidence. Our country doesn't run on secret evidence and secret black sites. Our country runs on freedom of speech and serving this country and not another country. I'm so curious whether Americans are going to rebel at some point or if they're going to say, no, no, no, running a tyranny, tyrannical.

That was bad. Tyrannical. Tyrannical, thank you. Running a tyrannical government on behalf of a foreign country is okay. And that's what makes America great again. That's what gives us our freedoms. And that's, and by the way, you want to talk about cancel culture. When the Israeli thought police kidnap you in the middle of the street, I'm pretty sure you're getting canceled. Yeah, well, first of all, that clip you guys showed of Kill Me talking about the IRS agents and how there was the requirement for weapons or carrying weapons. They're IRS agents. Nobody likes them. So they probably need the weapons for self-defense. That's going all the way back to that. But what you guys are saying is so spot on. I come from Iran. And when I posted this clip on my Instagram page, a lot of people, people from Iran were saying,

oh my gosh, this reminds me of what happens in Iran. And in Iran, they stop people and they go, you insulted God. And now they're saying you insulted Israel. And the problem is that America is supposed to be a tolerant society that allows people to express their opinions. And as you said, a lot of people are. saying, oh, well, there must be other reasons. That's the other thing that I've seen that's been interesting is, again, on my Instagram page, there are some people that are immigrants to this country who are turning around and going, well, she deserves a she, it's, you know, they should kick her out.

And I'm going, first of all, you're not safe. Because originally the idea was that they're going to only go after undocumented immigrants who've committed crimes. And then it was undocumented immigrants. And then it was now green card holders. And now, And now they want to get rid of birthright citizenship. So the fact is, if Marco Rubio decides that you said something that he doesn't like, he could say, you know what, because he called them, he said, I'm going, we're going after all these lunatics. They call you a lunatic the same way in Iran. They say you are against religion and they disappear you.

And that's the kind of stuff that happens in Russia and in Iran and in China and other totalitarian states. And now it's happening right in front of our eyes. So for people, even if they don't agree with these people's opinion. they are giving up. We are that we are that line of people as we're seeing the dictatorship and authoritarianism take over this country. It happened in Iran.

I saw it, you know, I was a kid then, but I've gone back and looked at. There was a lot of people who were like, oh, no, it's not going to be that bad, not going to be that bad, not going to be that. And before you know it, there's a million things you can't say. And if you look at the game plan, and if you go to Project 2025, which people kept warning people about a lot of those things are being implemented. And pretty soon, if you go say something about, you know, Jesus or the flag or guns, they might say, hey, you know what, that's un-American of you, and we're going to make you disappear. So it is, everyone should be upset about this.

And then look, some of them might think, well, I mean, he would never do that. But if he did, well, then a judge would stop them or whatever. They were ordered not to move her. And they defied it. Judge said, don't move her, just as they have in other cases too, just as they did with the Venezuelans. And the White House told them the kick rocks. And they just didn't abide by the orders of these judges. And they're already like champing at the bit to send American citizens for all sorts of different crimes outside of the country. We had Trump like talking about how those who defaced Tesla's or whatever could end up going to that Salvadoran prison. And if they do that. What do we think? Brian Kilmead is going to be aggrieved. Jesse Waters is going to do a monologue

about how, oh no, I was MAGA, but this has gone too far. This is an utterly lawless regime. Donald Trump did his executive order a couple days ago to make it significantly harder to register to vote. They're trying to wipe out literally millions of voters, as many of his strongest backers are still openly talking about him running for a third term. This is an utterly lawless. Like we throw in these terms of this looks dictatorial, I don't know what about this administration at this point does not. They don't care, like they control Congress, but are still ignoring it. He could get anything he wants out of the Republican Congress. He's still telling them to F off because he doesn't want to even set a precedent that Congress matters. So that if the Democrats

ever take control of it, he doesn't want that to matter. He wants only him and Elon Musk to decide what matters. No Congress, no judges, no anything. And so that's what we're seeing. And as you said, Marco Rubio, he's totally in now on this whole thing. I don't know if, you know, if you'd asked him five years ago if he would have thought that any of this is acceptable, but this is the price for his position. He wants some power. So if that means that you don't have rights anymore, he's totally fine with that, as he's going to demonstrate in this clip. It might be more than 300 at this point. We do it every day. Every time I find one of these lunatics, I take away their visa. You're saying it could be more than

300 pieces. Sure. I mean, at some point I hope we run out because we've gotten rid of all of them, but we're looking every day. They're looking every day. And let me just say, I imagine, look, I'm like Brian Kilmead, maybe I deserve millions of dollars a year, I imagine that if they had found evidence that any of those 300 had committed actual crimes, done horrible things, or even posted horrible things, really scary,

triggering language, they would cite it. They would cite some evidence, some act, something criminal, destruction, assault, hate speech. What do we got? Buckkus, we got literally nothing. The most they can say is there was an op-ed, doesn't even mention Hamas, but still, you're affiliated or whatever with the organization that you didn't even talk about in that op-ed. And once we've weeded out all of them, the people that we disagree with, the people who are exercising their speech and saying politically incorrect things, those who need to be canceled in the most ultimate potentially fatal for some of them way. Well, then he'll finally stop, I guess. And maybe that's 300, maybe that's 3,000, 30,000. I don't know how many foreign born students there are. Maybe

eventually they'll work through all of them. But that's what Marco Rubio is now totally on board for. Yeah. So one of the most scary parts of the story and important parts of the story is that that they're from time to time they ignore the courts. They're doing trial tests, like what if we ignore the courts for 24 hours? What if we ignore them when they give a verbal order and not a written order? What if we just delay telling them for a long time? So the reason we were saying like they made them disappear into a black side in Louisiana is because in the beginning, the judge told them, where did you take Mahmoud Halil?

And they're like, I'm not gonna tell you. What do you mean, you're not gonna tell me? No, you're gonna tell me. So eventually we found out that it was a prison in Jenna, Louisiana, and presumably they took her there as well. But we had to drag that out of him. And then in this case, they told, the judge said, do not bring her to general Louisiana. And they're like, yeah, we're going to do it anyway. Who cares?

And it started with the gang members that they were taking to El Salvador, when they ignored that order to turn the plane around. Don't take him there, the court told them. Now, that plane was filled with a lot of terrible gang members. And so people are like, oh good, the gang members, by the way, it turns out, there's at least, it appears one innocent person there who is a hair and makeup artist. Oops, but he's being tortured right now in El Salvador. And he got there because the Trump administration ignored court orders. Do you know what happens when they set that precedent, as they've done now three times? It doesn't apply to just people with student visas.

It applies to all of us. All Americans, I told you, they're going to chip away at all of us. rights. So once you start ignoring court orders, what if the court gives an order about an American? You can ignore that too. Of course. Or residents that are here legally, et cetera. And to Rubio, I know, John, I think he would, he loves this. I think he would have, he was waiting to serve Israel his whole life. He's been serving them in the Senate. Couldn't wait to serve them as Secretary of State. He's like, now I get to round up people on behalf of one of my largest donors. Because guys, remember, these guys don't serve Israel.

They serve their donors, no matter who the donor is. Musk is a donor, let's bring out the Tesla's in front of the White House. Or by the way, you're Joe Biden and you got some donors that make chips. Hey, let's pass the chips act. There's $50 billion to you guys. Hey, you got donors who are drug companies. Oh, yeah, you know what? We won't even negotiate drug prices.

You set whatever price you like and bankrupt, you know, hundreds of millions of Americans. Biden loves it, Bush loves it, Trump loves it, Rubio loves it. So it's just supporters of Israel happen to be giant donors in this country. So Rubio's like, oh, my donor, yes, who would you want me to arrest? Do you think he wouldn't arrest someone for Lockheed Martin or Exxon Mobil or Pfizer? He'd arrest people for that in a second. He'll do anything his donors tell him to do because the Supreme Court legalized bribery. And what does that do?

It doesn't take away rights for some people. It takes away all of our rights for all of us. Okay. And finally, you know, Maas said, you know, soon they'll be saying, you know, hey, you said something he has Jesus. You said something against America and round you up. Isn't it amazing that Israel was above Jesus in America? Like the first, they come for you first because you went after the most important thing in America. Golden Israel, Israel above all.

And you know, it reminds me a joke that you do maz on your routine. You did a long time ago. It was actually one of my favorite jokes of all time. When you went to, you know, the Middle East, people criticize you for doing comedy tour there, you come back. And you did the joke about like, oh, you know, if I criticize Allah God there, they take me off the stage. You're right. And here, if I'm doing a show for Comedy Central and I criticize Tide, which is one of their sponsors, they take me off stage. stage. So you know what that means, tide is God. So that was Maz's original joke. But now

replaced tide with Israel. Because in Iran, you'll get taken off the stage if you criticize God. Here in America, you'll get taken off the streets if you criticize Israel. So Israel is our politician's God. Absolutely. And just to put a little button on that as well, the hypocrisy of Rubio saying we're getting rid of all these lunatics. Meanwhile, the people who stormed the capital on january sixth many who were lunatics were set free they are actually people who actually threatened american democracy they've been set free and these other people who have just simply written an op-ed piece or expressed their opposition to the war in gaza they are being arrested and again if you have real proof of them having done some violence or some sort then bring it

And let's proceed, but they have not. They've just said, oh, I imagine there's more reason to this. Yeah, okay, super last thing, because that's such a good point. So for whatever it's worth, and my friends don't represent everybody, but this is my anecdote. Every Jewish friend I know is horrified by this, right? So like, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? What are you doing? This is crazy, just totally nuts, right? Don't do this.

So remember the original reason was we're combating anti-Semitism. and anti-semitism is free speech, but not anymore, because, et cetera, but we're worried about, not about Israel, no, no, no, it's about anti-Semitism. But now, I think a huge percentage of Jewish Americans are objecting, right? And they're like, now they switched it, because she didn't say anything anti-Semitic. Like, Mahmoud Halil didn't say anything anti-Semitic. In fact, he spoke out against anti-Semitism on TV, right? But in her case, it wasn't even on the map.

She wrote an op-ed about Israel and doing an economic boycott of Israel. She didn't mention Jews. She didn't mention anything. Now the goalpost has moved all the way to, yeah, fine, okay. The anti-Semitism was obviously a ruse. We don't care about it at all. We just care about pertaining to Israel because we get tons and tons of donor money from people who support Israel. So we just took the legalized bribes and we'll arrest anybody if they pay us enough money.

That's the current state of America. that's not a problem for Israel. That's a problem for us. We've got to regain our democracy. And it isn't just being against Trump. It's actually getting money out of politics. It's ending the corruption. That's the only thing that could save this country. All right. I think we should take a break. Yep, that'll take a break. When we come back, now we are going to turn to Israel itself. And the horrors they have planned for the Palestinians, they've taken it to a whole new level. Unfortunately, we got that story for you guys. But you got to hear it because later they'll deny it as they do it. I want you to hear it first here. We'll be back.

All right, back on TYT, Jank, John, and Maz, with you guys. Also, Amelia W, a bit of an American hero for hitting the join button below on YouTube. An Atmosphere 404 upgraded membership there, love you for it. You could also upgrade through the joint button. And Ramon give to 10 Young Turks memberships. Love this community. John. Well, you're probably not going to love this story, but let's jump into it.

You can't live in Gaza right now. And I think we need another location. I think it should be a location that's going to make people happy. If we can get a beautiful area to resettle people permanently in nice homes and where they can be happy and not be shot, not be killed, not be knife to death like what's happening in Gaza. I don't think people should be going back to Gaza. When Palestinians have the right to return to Gaza if they left while the rebuilding was happening. It would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good where they wouldn't want to return. How many people are you thinking about all of them?

Okay, so if you push past the buffoonish, clownish way that he talks, that's just an absolutely massive war, crime against humanity that he's describing there. I mean, that is casually discussing genocide in a way that I don't know we've ever seen before as he sits there next to the guy responsible for the shooting and all of that that he thinks these people need to flee, as he plans for an entire population to be taken. against their will, their land utterly stolen, never to be returned, and then for them to be dumped somewhere. That was back in February. And lest you believe that he was just being Trump, he was being silly. He wouldn't actually push for that. It's not really gonna happen. Well, it's happening because Axios reports that Benjamin and Yahoo was in that video, has tasked Assad with finding countries that would take in a huge volume of Palestinian refugees. Apparently they have already spoken with Somalia and South Sudan, which I'm sure if you were to ask

Trump these nice places with nice houses to make a list of countries. Those are the first two that he would put on that list. Also Indonesia. And that's what they said. So where are they going to put the entire Palestinian population? Well, Africa, Southeast Asia, wherever the moon and incinerator, just get them the hell out of there. That's what the plan appears to be. And I haven't yet yet seen any reporting of any country saying that they would be willing to take in the better part of a million men, women, and children, Jenk, but do you have any ideas of whether they might get any takers? Yeah, I'm super worried. I've heard rumors of another country as well, which I'll talk about a little bit later in this segment. And then, look, I want to talk about their

overall plan and how it's been their plan from day one. And at the end, I want to talk about, Is there any hope for stopping this? It's a slim, slim hope, but I want to talk about who can possibly stop it. But John, tell us more about it. Yeah, I don't know that I even have that hope, but I would speculate that if it were, I don't know, Saddam Hussein a couple decades ago that was saying, hey, in like a year, I'm gonna round up a million people and I'm gonna force them off their land, the UN would probably get involved.

I imagine, when Putin wants to forcefully relocate people, we've armed the resistance to that. Other countries have too. Is there a reason that this sort of planned, projected genocide is acceptable because it's Israel? That's not a rhetorical question, by the way. I am waiting to see the world actually do something to stop this, but thus far they're not. And so that's what Mossad is doing. Other parts of the Israeli government are working on different components of this genocide. So Israel's cabinet approved the formation of a special directorate in the Ministry of Defense that will oversee the, and it's important that you know these are in quotation marks, willful departure of Palestinians from Gaza. All of them will be willful. They're all fine with their land being stolen from them and then being dumped in some slum that they don't know anything about the place, anything about the language, whatever, that'll be it for them. By the way, the finance minister last month spoke to the

parliament and said, if we take out 10,000 a day, it will take six months. If we take out 5,000 a day, it will take a year, which is obviously horrifying. It's a bit vague. We don't know, are they going to march the 10,000 a day along some sort of trail as they steal their land and move them somewhere? Maybe they'll load the 10,000 a day onto trains or something and ship them off. I don't know, it's a lot of people. They're going to have to figure out how you do this sort of industrial relocation, but apparently they are working for it in multiple aspects of their government. So that's currently what we know. Yeah. So one of our members on t-y-t.com, Spider-Man Dragon set a point that I was about to make. I'm surprised Trump isn't saying deport

the Palestinians to El Salvador, but that means they'd be closer to our border. Yeah, I mean, it's possible that at the end, they're just like, who wants them? It's we're going to pay you, right? Why did Al Salvador take the Venezuelans that we sent over there? We gave them $6 million. So if Israel or America, and by the way, Israel's not going to give them any money, they're gonna make America give them money to relocate the Palestinians, right? So if they go to a super poor country that might be in the middle of a civil war and go, hey, we'll pay, by the way, not the country, but whoever's the dictator or whoever's running the country,

some giant amount of money, it doesn't matter, it's gonna come from American taxpayers anyway, to take in all these people, put them in a prison, put them in camps, put them in tents, who cares? The whole point is ethnic cleansing and genocide anyway. And by the way, if you don't think we're moving over two million people from their homes and driving them to another country is ethnic cleansing, you literally don't understand the meaning of words. You don't speak the English language. That is the textbook definition of ethnic cleansing. So Trump blithely, like, it's like, yeah, maybe we shouldn't move him out.

And then you're driving them from their land. You're joking around about a war camp, but whatever. Like, I get it. Trump's an idiot, doesn't know anything, doesn't care. He's just like, me want Aedelson money, yeah, right? I get it. I get it. He's super low brow.

And look, some of his followers hate what he's doing. A lot of his followers are like, oh, yeah, Trump said it. Then I'm okay, forget freedom, forget anything. Forget America first. We now serve Israel, et cetera, et cetera. And so in terms of other rumors I've heard, I've heard that Turkey might consider it. These are epic disasters. And look, that's just a rumor.

So take it for whatever it's worth, right? But what's not a rumor is what Axios is reporting. Several countries, three countries approached and considering helping Israel do an ethnic cleansing of Gaza. And why? Why do they just want to clear out Gaza? get some fresh hair, no, what did we tell you? Their plan all along is greater Israel. And we didn't come up with that because it's a conspiracy theory or were some sort of geniuses.

They say it all the time. Cabinet members in Israel, Smotrush gave another speech about it recently. They're like, yeah, why don't we just slaughter them and we'll use the hostages as an excuse. Oh, well, they didn't give the hostages back. And so we'll then ship the two million out and we'll take Gaza and we'll move our settlers in. is in. And right now, one of the things they want to do is push all of them into a quote to quote humanitarian zone because it's 1984. So if you're gonna do genocide and ethnic cleansing, you call it a humanitarian zone. Push two million people in a tiny space so it's easier to ship

them out. I mean, in the old days it was trains, now it's planes. So this is a sick, sick genocide of the Palestinian people. And the Israeli cabinet is saying it out loud, let alone what Mossad is doing behind the scenes. I'm super curious if any supporter of Israel is ever going to turn around and go, oh, I called you anti-Semitic and I said it was this and I said it was that and now they're

actually doing exactly what you said. I was wrong. I'm against it. I want to help. Is that going to happen? I mean, we always talk about how Trump guys are cult. Are any Trump guys ever going to turn around? Ha, ha, ha, ha,

what a cult. Are any Israeli supporters ever going to turn around? I'm not talking about Jewish Americans, those of Jewish Americans are already against this. I'm talking about people defending Israel to this day, in the middle of one of the worst slaughters we have ever seen in our lifetime, over 50,000 butchered at a minimum, over 15,000 children massacred and still, not, that could be, human shields, but you're still doing propaganda over this, you're still going to do propaganda over this when they're announcing, Yes, we are planning to steal the land.

That was the point all along. By the way, I don't believe for a second that they didn't know that October 7th was going to happen. Besides which we literally know that they knew. Israeli presses reported that they knew. Oh, golly, the best intelligence agency in the world that did that beeper thing. Oh, they just snuck by us. No. And that's, and if you really love Israel, understand what these monsters in that government,

government did. Not only to the Palestinians, but to your own people. And you think, and that's what drives me crazy about Israeli supporters. I get why, because of the trauma of the past, et cetera, and they think, no, we got to protect our own and we're the victims. And okay, and they have been the victims in the past. But guys, snap out of it because this whole idea of no matter who's in charge of Israel, no matter how right wing they are, no matter how monstrous they are, no, they're pure as the German stone. I'll defend them. I'll defend them. I'll defend them. Because Israel is the one country that cannot have a bad leader. Everything is moral. They're, they're the one country in the world that cannot have a government that ever makes bad decisions

or immoral decisions. They're the one wholly moral country. You have to be really detached from reality, believe that, especially in the middle of now they're announced, planned, genocide, and Anthony Cleansy. Yeah, you mentioned this is all very sick. And one thing that was that struck me as being very sick is that Donald Trump is saying in that in that clip we showed earlier, that we're going to take them away from this place where they're not getting stabbed and shot. And meanwhile, you pointed out, the person or the people stabbing and shooting them were, you know, Netanyahu.

The guy, the murderer is sitting right next to him. And he's saying, we're going to take him away. It's like, it's like, it's like saying, we're going to move the victims out of the neighborhood. So this guy will stop killing them. And this guy's just sitting there smiling about it. And I'm going, what is sick and twisted reality? They're saying, we need, we need to get you away. for safety from this guy who's sitting right next to me we just want to and he's just smiling and

go yeah you yeah I mean the the pretense of it all is just so sick and not to mention the fact that the world you know the western world right now is taking in a lot of refugees from wars whether it was Syria or Ukraine or wherever and then you have these you know you have the the pushback from the right in many countries, whether it's America or Germany or wherever in Europe saying, we don't want any more migrants. We don't want any migrants. Well, then stop supporting wars and work on stopping wars. Stop going at the UN Council and voting against a ceasefire. Stop that. If you don't want migrants coming to you, if you don't want refugees fleeing their land and coming to your country, then stop it, then do something about it, stand on some moral

ground. And they don't. And then the other thing I will point out is that during the election, a lot of, obviously a lot of Palestinians and a lot of pro-Palestinians voted for Donald Trump because they thought that he's going to do something better for them. And I was always saying, whether it's Trump or it's Biden, it's Democrat or Republican, the policy is the policy. And the policy is to support Israel blindly. And to your point, I think that if you love Israel or if you love your own country, you should be able to criticize their leadership for their policies. That's part of being a Western democracy. And the final, final thing I will say is, once again, observing countries like Iran that are an Islamic totalitarian state, anytime you put religion into the game,

you have people in Israel, like you said, Smutrich, the far right people who believe that, you know, they start talking about God and how it's their right and all that other stuff. That's where I think you end up with a society where it's harder to criticize that leadership because they always defer to the idea that God wanted this, this is God. And by the way, one final thing, we are seeing our own country move in that direction when you have people on the right saying that Donald Trump was God bringing him to us and we're going to have to go further and further to the right. So there's a lot of repercussions to all of this. And it is just unbelievable that these discussions are being had and that America is standing

by and just, you know, just doing doing same old same old. I mean, that's just been what it is. Yeah. So last thing is I promised, you know, who can stop? them and that is not a long list okay I'm not sure it's really anyone but I'll tell you who can't stop them real quick the world what are we what are they gonna do if like attack Israel no then America will attack them so nobody can do anything about that right I mean they could start a giant world get to that in a second but like certainly like Europe's not gonna do anything most of their governments are captured by Israel and even if they weren't what are they gonna do there's

literally nothing they could do. China's not gonna do anything, Russian's not gonna do anything. The world's not the answer. Our politicians are, you know, 90% corrupt. They almost all work for Israel, take A-PAC money. The largest donor for half the politicians in America are A-PAC. So they're totally corrupt and gone. At the left, nobody ever listens to the left.

So I wish, I wish one day, one day, but not today. So who's left? Look, one group is Jewish Americans. So I'm not putting it on them like, people do when there's like some fundamentalist Muslim does a bombing, a terrorist attack. And then all Muslims are responsible and you all have to apologize. No, no, no, no. Jewish Americans are not responsible. They don't have to apologize, et cetera, et cetera. But do they have collective power that can make a difference for good? I think they do.

And I hope that they begin to realize this is not helping anyone. It's not helping the Jewish community. It's not helping Israel. We got to get them out of this fight. Israel's basically like a 280 pound guy got into a bar fight. And you don't look, as a friend and you want to say, and Jewish Americans are not Israelis, they're Americans. But as a friend, you want to say, okay, I support my brother in the fight. But now, no matter who started him where it was, he's got a 120 pound guy underneath him. And he's just bashing the living crap out of him. And he's about to die. That's when a friend comes in and stops the guy, right? That doesn't encourage him and enable him and go, oh, go get him. You're the victim. You're the

keep pounding him. No, don't do that. So I have faith that that can happen. I don't I'm so I I hope that something snaps in a way that's positive and leads in that direction. But but the only other group that can make a difference and maybe more realistic because Jewish Americans are still a small group overall is the right wing. So again, the right wing's not fully responsible. Nobody's fully responsible. But I'm talking about people. who can make a difference. So why? If they turn on on Israel, there's some percent a chance that Trump will listen to his base. And that's not a guarantee at all because he does not listen to do his base when they want him to

cut defense and they want him to do all these things instead he's just giving corporations more subsidies, more giveaways, more tax cuts, etc. But on some things when his base is angry enough he turns around. Now they could do that at some point when they get mad enough, but I haven't seen it yet. And but we're, you know, the beginning of his term or the disaster scenario where they're starting to put people on trains and planes and and they're shackling them and just, they've put them in the revealed pen of the so-called humanitarian zone and people are being butchered, etc. And, and what, the Muslim world just erupts. I can't, I'm not gonna let you. I mean, this is now getting to a point

Are we past genocide? Are we at the next word? What is this? And so the populations of Egypt, Jordan, and all the neighboring countries can just go, ah, that's it. That's it. If you're not attacking Israel, we're attacking you. And if you think, I'm not encouraging. I think that's a disaster, epic disaster. But if you think, no, people will know that they are defeated. And all Muslims across the world will say, of course, Israel is our Lord and Savior. And they can oppress, humiliate, destroy, kill, and ethnically, plans all of us and we will never ever fight back because then we will be called terrorists by American media. Yeah, you can call them all you want, but at some point human being snap. So you we might have the biggest bloody mess you've ever seen in your life in Gaza. And Trump in the beginning will say keep deport, keep shipping them out, keep you send me money and you destroy and kill and move out any Palestinians you like. And maybe, just maybe, in those kind of disaster scenarios, even the right wing goes, why? Why did we get ourselves in the middle of a giant, giant conflict? And we have to pay for it when you ran on anti-war. Now, a lot of

you will say, yeah, I don't believe that Trump voters were ever anti-war. I think they're giant liars about everything. I disagree. Whether they hold Trump accountable is a different question. and we're all going to find out. Okay. I think we probably have to take our second break, but we have more coming up after this. All right. Back on T.R.T. Jank, John and Maz with you guys also.

David Olson who just joined David. Welcome, brother. All right, John, what's next? Well, this week we had more of those car tariffs announced, and I think a lot of people noticed and acknowledged that they're likely to benefit Tesla and Elon Musk. But I don't think Elon Musk is done getting as much out of the government as he can to benefit himself. He's got another thing in mind, which he's going to describe in this clip. The real problem is not the people, it's not like the, you know, the crazy guy that, that firebombs at Tesla dealership. It's the people pushing the propaganda that, that caused that guy to do it. Those are the real villains here.

And we're going to go after them. And the president's made it clear. We're going to go after them. Okay, so we have made very clear on the show, this network that, you know, acts of property damage are crimes and shouldn't be done. There's been a couple instances of that. And this is now a thing that for multiple weeks, basically everyone in the highest reaches of the Trump administration have apparently been spending a massive amount of time on, because they say that this is hurting Tesla, I guess. I guess this is why their stock price

is going down, not because of Elon Musk's reputation, which he has seemingly willfully done a great deal of damage to, and it takes the government, the White House, the president himself jumping into action to protect them in this particular case. He made a couple of points there earlier about those who bear ultimate responsibility for even individual acts of property damage like this. And we're certainly going to want to return to that. But in this appearance with Brett Bear, Elon Musk had more to say. Let's jump to that video first. You don't have to be here. You know, there's now been these many cases of violence and vandalism at Tesla dealerships, how does that affect your employees, your customers?

What does it mean to you? Like, how have you taken that in? Well, I think a great wrong is being done to the people of Tesla and to our customers. I mean, Tesla is a peaceful, peaceful company that has made great cars, great products. That's what it's done. Hasn't harmed anyone. And yet people are committing violence. They're firebombing Tesla dealerships. They're shooting guns into stores. They're threatening people. They're issuing death threats against me and another Tesla personnel.

What are they doing this for? Why? And what's happening, it seems to me, is they're being fed propaganda by the far left. And they believe it. The ones providing the money, the ones pushing the lies and propaganda, we're going after them. Okay, so again, many times we've said don't shoot at these dealerships, you could end up killing someone who has nothing to do with Doge, might not like Elon Musk individually, might

even agree with you on the politics. The vast majority of it, of course, has been property damage. And he seems utterly incapable of acknowledging why people might have a problem with him. And I don't know, it's always hard with Elon Musk to know if it's just because he's this stupid, which I think he is or this dishonest, which I think he is. It's one or maybe both in this case. His refusal to acknowledge that the damage to his reputation and the associated reputation of Tesla might be due to the choices he's made and the terrible things he's done that have ruined thousands, tens of thousands of lives, just government workers as one example. I would also briefly point out that Tesla's have done damage to people. His desire to rush out full self-driving when it wasn't actually

safe and his engineers have been clear of that has undoubtedly resulted in bodily harm and deaths. The weird thing about the doors locking and people being unable to get out when the cars on fire, those sorts of things are not peaceful in the way he's talking about. But the most important thing there is they are not willing to accept that this might be individual people breaking the law because they don't like him or the company. No, it has to be bigger than that. Somebody has to be funding it. And even if they're not, who is making people believe that Tesla's bad. Who is maybe like making videos or posting things? It doesn't matter if they actually broke the law to Elon Musk and apparently to Donald Trump, the two co-presidents of the United States,

they're the ones fundamentally who we have to go after, which I think raises some interesting questions. When people post like on libs of TikTok or Matt Walsh, they post about hospitals and they make it seem as if they're butchering kids or something. And then there's bomb threats against them. Elips of TikTok didn't do the bomb threat, but does anyone believe that the individual who did would have done that bomb threat if they hadn't seen those posts online, on YouTube, on Rumble, on Twitter, whatever? Now, I don't think that those people broke the law. I don't think those people should rot in jail, but evidently Elon Musk does. And so who is it that led people to bomb abortion clinics or murder the doctors performing them?

who are the ones who inspired people to drive their cars into crowds of BLM protesters or bring their assault rifles there and start shooting people? Because we've had multiple instances of that and I don't think those people would have just, there's no world in which they didn't do that. And there was certainly a lot of content inspiring them to do that. Why is it that a guy broke into Nancy Pelosi's home and tried to kidnap her and cracked her husband's skull open? Who is it that in the lead up to that was posting about how Nancy Pelosi is evil and something needs to be done. Again, I don't think you should go to jail for doing that. But evidently, that's the position of Elon Musk and maybe Maga as of right now. Yeah. So he says, the real

problem are the people criticizing Tesla? No, that's not true. The real problem are the people who are doing crimes. So you got a guy burning up a Tesla, arrest him, charge him with arson and whatever else you got. Okay, that makes sense that applies to that crime. Okay, somebody's doing a death threat, arrest them, find the guy, et cetera. By the way, while you're at it, come help us to, okay? Like, I know the elites get special privileges and we just got to stay out here and get swatted and all that stuff. But anyway, you want to prevent crime. I'm legendarily for it, okay? I'm taking a lot of critique for being anti-crime. Okay, so let's go get the criminals. No, the people criticizing your product are not responsible for that.

So if we play this game to John's point, we can round everybody up. Oh, you're responsible for a right winger sending pipe bombs. You're responsible for January 6th. You're responsible for a Tesla burning. You're responsible for the Bernie Sanders, one Bernie Sanders supporter, whoever did violence, right? Et cetera, et cetera. And then next year you know, we're all locked up. We're all terrorists, right?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're not going to take away our speech rights. I mean, this is so ironic. This is the guy who claimed to be a free speech absolutist. He had to take over Twitter because they were taking away free speech. Now he's like, a real problem is people criticizing my company. I've got the president who I purchased working around the clock to help arrest anyone who criticizes my corporation. That's the real problem.

Is it? Is it? No, I think the real problem is that you're a giant liar and hypocrite who never meant anything about free speech. Look, our poll question in the live chat is, is Ilal Musk a free speech absolutist? I'm curious if you're like people in the middle watch, people run a right wing watch. You know, Monday through Friday, 6 o'clock to 8 o'clock Eastern, come watch along with us, be part of the show. 12% think, yeah, he's a free speech absolutist. I mean, of course you should arrest anyone criticizing Tesla.

I mean, that's not free speech. I mean, that's protesting a corporation. You're crazy dog. Okay. And you know, here's one thing I know about the right wing, though. They do not want any products burned or smashed or shot at unless it's Nike or Kyrig or Bud Light, in which case you should shoot the living crap out of it, you should burn it, you should smash it, and say, but Tesla, do you arrest them?

That's a product. That's a product of a corporation. You're going to arrest everyone who suggested it. Should we round up everyone who smashed those things on the right? Of course not, because we're not hypocrites. We actually believe in freedom of speech. Finally, why did he say those weird things about like, oh, you know, who's funding this? Dude, there's like, if you're talking about the radicals who are actually doing the fires and who encouraged them, There's nobody funding that like them like the most outer edge radicals in America.

Nope, you think that other billionaires are gonna find like fund radicals that destroy corporations. Like this is, it's so maniacal. So why is it even in his head? Because projection. Because what does Elon must do? I fund Donald Trump and then he puts me in charge of the government. So I assume others are doing it. And this is just probably.

This is just propaganda, and I bought X for free speech absinism. Or maybe you bought it for propaganda, and that's why you assume everybody's doing what you're doing. Moss. Yeah, the irony and the tone deafness is just crazy on this guy. When he's saying the people who are inspiring these things should be the ones held accountable. I mean, you know, Donald Trump famously on January 6th said, go down to the country. capital and, you know, let's win back our democracy. I mean, he straight up said it. And then those guys went. So, hello. I mean, that's what that guy does. And then when he says,

oh, I've been getting death threats, Donald Trump says the people on the committee, the January States committee are people that people should go after. So you see Eric Swalwell, you see Jamie Raskin, you see all these members of that committee constantly getting death threats from Trump supporters. want to point at somebody who's causing a lot of violence and threats of violence, maybe he should talk to his buddy over there, as well as himself, like you guys just pointed out. The other thing is, you know, Bond villains and Lex Luthor, Gene Hackman, RIP, they at least had the decency to admit they were villains. This guy's pretending not to be a villain. I mean, he's clearly a villain.

you're the villain like just just own it be like look I'm a villain and people don't like me and that's why they're burning the teslas and but you know I don't care because I have so much money I really don't care um he admit it as opposed to trying to play this guy who's like I don't know what's going why don't they like this you know what it is is propaganda against teslas now let me tell you one last thing I am a Tesla owner and I regret owning a Tesla right now I bought it before all this crap started. I didn't buy it, I leased it. I'm trying to get out of it,

but they charge you an arm or leg to get out of the lease. And I will tell you right now firsthand that I am not upset at the car itself because of some propaganda that's been fed to me. I'm not saying this actually, it's a good car. But the problem is, the problem is this guy. So every time I'm in the car, I just feel like, oh my God, what's he going to say next?

Oh, my God. And I feel apolog. I pull up at the lights all the time. I'm apologetic. When he was doing the Nazi salute, I was like, what do I? I got to apologize for that. It's a, he's a disaster and he's completely tone deaf. And then people make excuses. Supporters of his make excuses. He go, well, he's on the spectrum. Well, he better get off the spectrum because at least admit, admit that you are, that you are the problem. That's it. Being on the spectrum is not an excuse to be like, oh, I'm clueless. to the fact that I'm the cause of all these of these problems and and all of that to say once again you John said it a few times no one advocates violence or burning anything or any of that stuff however these folks are the same folks who inspired all those things that John had said January 6th he continues to do things like that that causes threats of violence towards others and the fact that he is not admitting the fact that he's sitting there with straight face the fact that brett bear doesn't just laugh and go are you be serious that would have been great if brett bear would be like come on no really you know it's you right it's you

you're the cause you don't know that like what what kind of genius are you that you're and and i think john you made that point i think he's just an insincere um narcissistic megalomaniac who is not to be trusted and uh and i just i just want to get rid of my tesla somebody helps you to get rid of it. Please, so do you buy it. Maz's forcing me to make the last couple points. Number one, we'll prove to you that we really, really don't want you to burn Teslas. It might be Mazza's car, so don't burn.

Okay, all right, so that's point one. Point two is, you know, you said he's like the villain, right? He literally came out in a chainsaw, right? He's like out of a Halloween movie. And they're like, nope, I don't see it. I don't see it. And you want to talk about encouraging violence. As they were breaking into the Capitol, we showed you to tape many times.

They were chanting, hang Mike Pence, hang Mike Pence. And by the way, Trump was told about it and he said he deserves it. But political violence, what name so? The first time the right one's ever heard about it is when a Tesla was attacked. Okay, guys, we criticize Democrats all the time. Try being consistent. Try being principled to everyone. Stop the tribes. Stop the tribalism and just be consistent for once. So finally, and especially, and again, if you're right wing or you're in the middle or wherever you are, remember, this is all in an effort to take away your rights. Because once they stop anyone from criticizing Tesla, then they can stop you from criticizing any corporation or any donor or any politician.

So these Tesla fires have a little Reichstag fire energy to them, not because that they were set or lit by Elon or anyone on their side, no, but because it's an excuse to take away your rights. All right, we got to go. Everybody check out Maasjabrani.com, right? Or at Maas Jabrani. You can follow me online. I'm always posting where I'm going to be touring. So come check me out live. Yeah, you got to check out Maas Live. You're gonna love it, okay? So and check them out on rebel headquarters as well. Everybody check out a damage report, of course, Monday through Friday every day. John and Maz, you guys are awesome. We appreciate you. And guys, we're gonna come right back with stories of like over the top corruption for Donald Trump. Thank you.