The Young Turks - Jazmine Barnes Murder Suspects Identified And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez '60 Minutes' Interview

Episode Date: January 8, 2019

The horrific murder of 7-year old Jazmine Barnes now has two suspects. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez faces extremely bias questions during her "60 Minutes" interview with Anderson Cooper. Get exclusive access to our best content. http://tyt.com/GETACCESS Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you. All right, welcome the Young Turks, a whole new week ahead, everybody. Nothing but fun for everyone, except for everyone who's furloughed by the federal government and anyone affected by the disastrous policies of the Trump administration. Fine. Yeah, it won't be a good way. It won't be a good week, but you still, you see my point, right? We'll adjust.

Yeah, yeah. So on today's show, Acacio Cortez was attacked so fervently by so many different people, we will not be able to track all of them. Only a couple, okay, one that is hilarious from a Republican, and later with the program, you're gonna be shocked to find out Bernie Sanders is attacked, and we will defend him again. It's his hometown paper, and they might have had the most absurd op-ed of all of them. And their charges against them are both maddening and hilarious at the same time. I mean, they just, they're so blinded by their bias.

The establishment bias reeks through almost everything that the media does. But we'll break that down for you guys and there'll be plenty of critiques of Mr. Trump as well, Senor Trump. Okay, all right, so lots to get to, let's do it. All right. Prosecutors in Texas have identified two suspects in the drive-by shooting of a seven-year-old Jasmine Barnes. She unfortunately did not survive the shooting, and there was a huge question as to what

the motive was, who the suspect was. Turns out that there are two suspects, and even though the family believed that they had witnessed a white man as the suspect. And there were also four other witnesses who had said the same thing, prosecutors said that that was not the actual suspect, it was a case of mistaken identity. So who are the suspects? Well, according to the prosecutors, one of those suspects is Eric Black Jr. There he is, arrested, and he does not match the witness photo at all.

So let's look at the witness illustration of what the alleged suspect looked at. like and it's a side by side of that photo or that drawing, I should say, with Eric Black Jr. Okay, so there it is. No, it is, none of that matters. Yeah. The original guy that they had in the red trunk, it was just wrong, it wasn't him. So let me explain that in greater detail and then tell you who broke the case. Well, I'll tell you that right now, it's Sean King.

So I'll give you the details on that in a second as well. So first of all, as Anna pointed out, everybody originally thinks is the white guy in his 40s in the red truck, why? The family, when they recovered for half a second from the shooting and looked up, saw the red truck going away and they thought it was him. And they weren't alone, as Anna pointed out, four, four other witnesses said it was the white guy in the red truck, okay? Now, how did they find out that it wasn't?

In fact, one of the witnesses tailed the guy in the red truck. I mean, that's how positive the other people on the road were that it was the guy in the red truck. Now, the way that they got to the truth was Sean King, who was an activist, put out a reward to find the guy who did it. It started at 35,000, then it went to 50,000, then it went to 100,000, and finally they got a tip. And it went to Sean King, and then Sean King brought it to the police.

Turns out, it wasn't the guy in the red truck at all. It was a different car and everybody was so shaken by what happened, they didn't realize which car it was. Now, how do they know that it was Eric Black Jr. and his, he's the driver and the guy who actually did the shooting. Well, because Eric Black Jr. has not only confessed it, but said, yeah, I didn't do the shooting. The guy next to me did the shooting.

And by the way, you could find the gun in my apartment and I give you permission to search the apartment. They went and searched the apartment and they found the gun that matches a shell case. It's definitely Eric Black Jr. As far as we can tell, they gotta go through trial, of course, et cetera. So it was, and it turns out they had the wrong car. They thought they were shooting at a rival gang or something along those lines and they shot into the wrong car.

By the way, a good reason not to shoot into random cars, okay, or into any cars. So I think Sean King should deserve tremendous credit for this story. If it wasn't for his offers of figuring it out who the culprits were, they never, they might not have ever gotten that tip. Okay, now, a lot of the right wings say, oh, Sean King has an agenda. Well, if he, it's not wrong to have an agenda, it's wrong to skew the facts to fit your agenda. And Sean did not do that.

Now, we'll get to his agenda in a second, but when he got the information that it was two black guys who did it instead of a white guy, he turned into the cops and they got the real guys who did it. Right. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? I think the entire country, let alone the left wing, the right wing, et cetera, should be thanking Sean King for solving the case. So only the family is.

The family's like, look, all we cared about was getting justice. And it turns out these guys did it, we fought the, we got the real guys who did it. Justice, thank you. So the second suspect has been identified by prosecutors as Larry Wood. Woodruff, and that is the individual who allegedly fired the gun. And so it's interesting because the sheriff's office didn't want to name him, but prosecutors have put his information out there. Investigators are still looking for the driver of the red pickup truck reported at the scene.

They don't believe that the driver described as a white man in his 40s or the truck were involved in the shooting despite previous reports suggesting that racism had played a role in Jasmine's death. So, and by the way, all credit to also everybody that contributed to that fund, including Houston Texan star D'Andre Hopkins, who gave his playoff check into, excuse me, there's two different funds. DeAndre Hopkins gave to the GoFundMe fund to fund the funeral for the family, because the family does not have a lot of money, and obviously they were grief-stricken, et cetera.

So wonderful job by all those people to arrive at the right answer. In fact, I want to quote the family lawyer, he said, they would. wanted the right person to be convicted, not a white person, right? Of course, seven year old daughter was shot. Of course they want to find out who the right person was. So now, as to the alleged Sean King agenda, some people say, well, look, if Sean doesn't look into every murder in the country, he only looks into these cases where it looks like a white racist might have shot an African American.

Yeah, that's right. It's not his job to be the cop for the whole country, nobody elected him to do that. It's like saying, oh, I guess you only care about the clan murders of black people, but you don't care about other murders. No, I care about other murders, but yeah, I'm going to chase down the clan murders. That's my agenda. And if you lived back then, that would have been a great agenda. I wish everybody had that agenda back then.

Okay, I mean, and we can play that game when it comes to anything. For all the idiots out there who pretend like they care about the Armenian genocide, right, which we've talked about on the show on a regular basis and have acknowledged it on a regular basis, You guys care about the genocide of the Rohingya Muslims? Have you guys been going off on that? You care about what's happening to the Yemeni children right now? The tens of thousands of them who have already died, the millions of them who could lose their lives in coming months because of the famine there?

Do they care about that? No, they don't. And unlike Sean, you do not stick to the truth. Exactly. And you don't care about justice, it's just a political trick or a game for you guys. Sean instead found the real culprit and helped to bring out justice, which is the whole point, Okay, and now to our coverage. So some are saying, well, you guys reported that it was a white guy.

Yeah, that's because four witnesses in the family reported that it was a white guy. And we had questions as to why he might have done that, and we speculated on that a little bit at the time, but mainly said on the video, hey guys, we don't know why this happened, right? And let's find, let the authorities figure it out, okay? So then they're like, oh, are you gonna take down some of the videos about the case? After we discovered that it was not the white guy, he's just a witness. Cops are still looking for him, but only as a witness, that he's not at all a suspect, okay?

Well, after we found out, yeah, of course you don't want to put that up because now we know who the real guys are. Before we found out, well, how to hell would I? Who do we know? The cops didn't know, nobody knew, right? So then they're like, okay, then we took down a video that came out afterwards and they're like, oh, so now you're taking down the videos. But which one is it, guys, do you want us to take it down or do you want us to leave it

Make up your mind. Sometimes the news, I know, hold on, I hope you're sitting. Sometimes the news develops and a story that you thought was going in one direction goes in a different direction. You report on the first day, you reported also on the second day. Oh my God. It's turned into a game. This is a thing.

So there's people that talk about, are you going to take back what you said? Are you going to be, are you going to not, are you going to no longer believe Sean King, this particular mother in this case, or any other witnesses, minority witnesses that have been victims a violent crime based off of who they are because it happens in this country. So first thing you have to admit is we've always had this problem in this country where people will attack someone based off of who they are. A lot of times those people in power are allowed to get away with it. From police officers, just random folks, from way back in our history of our country, guys

and people in power have been allowed to do that. It's transitioned now to people who call the cops on a random minority because they're like, I'm going to call the cops on you because I know they're going to back me up no matter what the situation is because it's me versus you. So for the people who are asking, hey, you're going to stop listening to voices like Sean King. You're going to stop listening to voices like victims who are involved in these situations. You have to ask yourself, why do you want people to stop listening to victims? It's because part of it was because you guys are framing white guys.

Which white guy got framed for this crime? Which white guy has been put in prison for murder of black folks that didn't do it? How many black people in this country have been put in prison, killed, executed for rape, murder, assault, anything of white folks that they didn't do it. The situation, you can't flip, that's why you can't flip the reverse racism card. Because the history, the factual basis with things that happen in our country is the people in power are given that power over people who are not in power

because our society judges people differently. So if there was this framing job done by Sean King and carried out by the Young Turks and everyone else who actually cares about these things being evened out, if you're worried about that, then it's going to be one of the first times in history that has happened, because it doesn't happen that way. So which white guy got framed, none of them did. So after you discover that, what you realize is what you don't want is people to believe black victims anymore.

And the reason you don't want to ask, because there's this influx of people who are holding people accountable for crimes that we didn't used to hold people accountable for. They're like, I can't believe these lower class citizens than me keep talking to me like they're on the same level as me. How dare they ask for a white guy who potentially committed the crime to be brought to justice? So, Jared, excellent point. And what the right wing does all the time is projection. They think like, well, you know, we were terrible to minorities when we were in the majority.

So if African Americans, Latinos, et cetera, become the majority in this country, oh my God, what are they gonna do to us? They're gonna lock us up in FEMA camps, et cetera. There is no such intention, okay? That's only what happened in the past with, unfortunately, the white majority in this country. That doesn't mean that the white majority still believes that. It doesn't mean that racism is solved, and the white majority doesn't believe it.

There's not a single person in the white majority that thinks anything bad. Okay, that's also preposterous. It's preposterous on all sides. And you think, well, look, hundreds, thousands of African Americans have been framed in this country, as J.R. alluded to. That's a fact. A lot of them have now been released. Some we found out, and proven in hindsight they were framed, right?

With DNA evidence, et cetera, it's absolutely proven they were framed. Now you think, oh, they're gonna start framing white people. No, they're not. So here was a perfect opportunity of Sean King wanted to frame a white person. I mean, he had four witnesses, he had him. He could have just buried the tip and then be like, oh yeah, still the white guy. He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that that is not his intention. Every right winger in the country should be thanking Sean King and going, my God, I was wrong

about him. It turns out he does actually care about justice. It isn't just about race. Right. Well, they would have to care about justice, right? Rather than denying racial tensions in the country, which I don't really understand. I mean, are you still denying that there is racial tension in the country? I mean, look at who we have as the leader of the United States, who consistently on a regular

basis will do and say things that are so brazen and racist. No, that's because there's snowflakes. And look, I know it's all overused, all these terms are overused. But they really are, they have this victim ideology in the right wing. Because in their mind, Anna, believe it or not, they really think that they're, of course there's racial tensions. Because white people are being oppressed in this country. They genuinely believe that as if blacks and Latinos and Muslims have all the power in the United States of America and they're using it to put their, you know, their boot on the necks of white people.

I mean, on what planet? It's crazy. We've talked about it before. There's a rise in right wing, alt-right white supremac violence, terrorism in the country. And our law enforcement has overlooked it because they're like, well, they don't really look like terrorists to me. So that has been allowed to run a lot more rampant. So there's a symptom of a bit of PTSD from folks who have been oppressed and have seen this much violence go on in the country. So when these things are brought up, you go, let's get this wrapped up because we never really did this to this extent before.

Our voices are being heard more. And that's a threat to some people. Hey, we go with the same thing. If you didn't do it, what are you worried about? I thought that's what we always tell folks whenever they get it, when other folks get arrested. And they say, hey, you know what, if you don't want your information sifted through and looked at and listened to, hey, if you didn't do it, what do you have anything to worry about? Same deal.

Hey, if it didn't happen, the investigators will find out who it actually was, which actually happened in this case. Yeah, and of course, look, it's not just shocking, of course, credit to the cops, credit to everyone who is involved in getting to the right suspects. So all we ever care about was justice. I'm gonna say one last programming note here for all the people screaming, oh, why haven't you done a video about it yet? The show is 68 p.m. Eastern every day.

Okay, you can tune in live at t.yt.com slash live, and then you'll see whether we did the story. It's the first story we did. They don't care, they don't care, they don't care. I didn't even, I wasn't here for the original story, meaning there's nothing on the record that involves me commenting when the story first broke. Do you know how many tweets I got about like, oh, you said that it was a white guy. What happened?

I was on vacation. That's what happened. I haven't commented on the story yet. They're not watching this. They don't care what the facts are. They don't care whether we're fair. They don't care about any of it, which is why I hate addressing them. They're hateful, bigoted losers.

So let's move on and cover the news that matters. Last thing, I'm sorry, to use jankster. So also, I also got some of those points talking about A, but it was done by black thug animals, right? So if you care about black violence, if you care about violence with this, you know, in certain communities because they said, you know, it was gang related or whatever they're saying it is. I don't even know the details of what they said, the reason why they were targeting someone else who they thought was in that car. If you care about tensions within certain communities, have you gone in to figure it out? Have you been a part of the solution?

Do you care about the education system in our country? Do you care about people having more opportunities to not be in the situations where these types of violence arises? Do you know how any of it works? You know what else has been going on? There was a story. story maybe a week ago, violent crime and gun violence has dropped in Chicago. Are they going to keep talking about that? Are they going to keep going back to Chicago and say, hey, you just look at Chicago, your president likes to say. So when things are, and if you do look into it, do you know why things have changed?

And are you a part of that solution? If you actually care, or do you just use those statistics and those crimes to validate your point to say you're better than someone else? Yeah. In the position that they're in. Of course, because all they ever talk about is black culture, it's black culture's problem, right? Oh, I couldn't see through that racism.

It was really well hidden. Okay, and by the way, our number one point in that original video was still holds, which is the problem is guns. And so I can't stand it when any race has guns and use it for crime. I'm like, oh, black people use guns for crime, oh, that's fine. But again, the right wing is so mental that they probably do think that we think that. How preposterous. No, that's why I don't want all those guns, I don't want it in gang members' hands.

I don't want it in everybody's hands. We've got 250 million guns in the country now. And yes, people shoot them and kill people all the time. There are no drive-by hangings. There are no drive-by knifings, okay? They use guns to kill people. And again, this was guns that did it. And finally, just like, I get it.

It's not incumbent upon everyone to watch every video and every show we've ever done. But if you haven't, like, could you just cool it for a second and see what we actually do on the show? And this applies to the right and the left. The other day somebody's like, oh, yeah, why would you have Tulsi Gabbard credit for coming out of Gaspego? We broke the news. We literally were the first ones to say that on air.

Oh my God. Okay, so look, I got last tip for you guys, t.com slash join. Become a member, then you won't miss any of the show. At least your critique could be constructive. Inaccurate. If you actually watch the show. All right. But anyway, again, thrilled that there's justice in this case.

Thank you to Sean King and the cops and everyone involved. But let's not lose track of the fact that Jasmine Parnes, life was lost. And it's an absolute tragedy, another tragedy in America because of our runaway gun violence. And they're doing on Tuesday justice for Jasmine Barnes community rally. And everybody needs to go to that. It doesn't matter where the violence came from. The violence is real and has to be addressed. We got to take a break when we come back,

Alexandria Acacio-Cortez's interview with Anderson Cooper and the feedback that she's received from the right way. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The Republic or UNFTR. As a young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom. In each episode of Un-B-The-Republic or UNFTR, the host delves into a different historical episode or topic that's generally misunderstood or purposely obfuscated by the so-called powers that be.

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And that's true whether you're in Jedi training or you're uprooting and exposing all the propaganda and disinformation you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. All right, back on a young Turks, Jank and Anna with you guys. I'm gonna go to the member section, t.com slash join to become a member, get your comments read first. Frank says, we need to heal this sick reality. Thank you, TYT for everything. Thank you, Frank. You make it possible.

Megan says, there's nothing you can do to please these people. They don't care about the girl. They only care that they think they can make you look bad, 100%. Any of those right-wingers been like, oh my God, you know, I was heartbroken over what happened to Jasmine Barnes, and I'm so glad they found the real suspect. That would require humanity. Anyway, Harley X, Sean King does great work, you know how I know that, he's always attacked by the right.

By the way, Sean King, you know, we don't often talk about it, but was a TYT contributor for a long time. And partly, again, paid by the audience is through that investigative reporting package that we put together. And then he went on to do other things, but thank you for making that possible. All of our members are amazing, and all the people that are contributed to that point. program are amazing. And speaking of which and other former TYIT contributors, Nomi Kans, and she's running for

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Okay, Dark King Zorro on Twitter says they don't want to hear about black victims, so they're quick to pick about any situation to call out situations like this. Totally true. Last one. YouTube Super Chat says, sending well-deserved love to you guys, thank you for all that you do. That's Sawyer Progressive. Thank you. All right, Anna, what's next?

Over the weekend, Anderson Cooper interviewed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on 60 Minutes, and they touched on a number of topics. Just kidding, no, they mostly talked about taxes because that seems to be what rich people like Anderson Cooper care a lot about. And they talked about taxes in the context of a number of policy issues that Alexandria Acacio-Cortez has brought to the table. One of those policy ideas is the Green New Deal, something that actually has overwhelming support according to the polls, as long as you take the partisan component out of it.

Now, here's what Anderson Cooper had to ask about it. He wanted to see what Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, what inspired her to basically protest in Nancy Pelosi's office. He asked, or he said, I should say, Nancy Pelosi is incredibly powerful and you're occupying her office. Well, Congresswoman Acacio Cortez responded back with, quote, I kept kind of just coming back to the idea that what they're fighting for wasn't wrong. And I had also sat down with leader Pelosi beforehand and she told me her story.

She came from activism and I knew that she would absolutely understand how advocacy can change the needle on really important issues. I thought that was a really great answer and it also gave us some insight into, you know, how she's fighting within the Democratic Party, but how she's strategizing on ways to negotiate and work with other lawmakers. So I thought that was a great answer. Far more polite than I would have been. I mean, look, she handled it perfectly, I think.

Because what do you want her to do? Like punch him in the face? No, no, no, no, no. That's for me. That's not for her. No, I'm not criticizing her at all. I'm saying she handled it wonderfully. I'm just saying, like, to me, Nancy Pelosi comes from activism.

I mean, if you say so, right? But did Nancy Pelosi appreciate that she was being protested in front of her office? No, she didn't. Yeah, I'm just guessing, but my guess is she didn't. And so, but I think Ocasio-Cortez has just the right strategy. Why? You don't have to be as brusque as me, that's for the show. That's not necessarily for Congress, right?

But when push comes to shove and there's votes, Cassio-Cortez was strong enough to stand up to Nancy Pelosi and vote no on Pago. So, you know, God bless. So the conversation about the Green New Deal continued. Anderson Cooper says the following, you're talking about zero carbon emissions, no use of fossil fuels within 12 years. How is that possible? Are you talking about everybody having to drive an electric car?

At that point, Representative Acacio-Cortez responds with, it's going to require a lot of rapid change that we don't even conceive as possible right now. What is the problem with trying to push our technological capabilities to the furthest extent possible. And at that point, Anderson Cooper brings up the issue of taxes. This would require, though, raising taxes. Do you have a specific on the tax rate? And this is a part of the interview that was released prior to the full interview being broadcast.

And so we've talked about it before. But here's what she had said. She said, you look at our tax rates back in the 60s. And when you have a progressive tax rate system and when you have a progressive tax rate system and when you have a progressive tax rate system. Your tax rate, you know, let's say from zero to $75,000, maybe 10% or 15%, etc., but once you get to the tippy tops on your $10 million, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60% or 70%. That doesn't mean all 10 million are taxed at an extremely high rate, but it means that as

you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more. So that is where she talks about the marginal tax rate, increasing the marginal tax rate, increasing the marginal tax rate in order to pay for some of the policy ideas that she is pushing for. Okay, it's perfectly rational. It's what we had in this country from the 1940s to the 1970s, top economic time in American history. In fact, in world history, so those rates work.

It's a fact. People have conveniently forgotten that fact, whether they're journalists or right-wingers or even the Democratic Party. So all of our answers again make perfect sense. I'm just going to quick note on Anderson Cooper's framing. So Nancy Pelosi is powerful, but you're occupying her office. What do you mean, but? So look, none of these are egregious.

It's not like there's been far, far worse in the media. No, I mean, it's pretty egregious. What's implied there is egregious. What's implied there is how dare you stand up to someone in a position of power. Which by the way, is if you believe in that framing and you believe that it's a terrible thing to stand up to someone in a position of power, then you don't really believe in a democratic process, you don't believe in leadership, you don't believe in new ideas, or challenging old ideas.

Yeah, she could have said, I was just keeping them honest. But for only, just for one segment, though. Just for one segment. Anyway, and then the more important issue is the framing of, well, how in the world are going to do the Green New Deal? I mean, imagine when Kennedy came out, and by the way, I'm sure that reporters did do this. this when Kennedy came out and said, we're gonna go to the moon. You're gonna go to the moon.

In that short period of time, how are you gonna go to the moon with a spaceship? Yeah, yeah, that's how we're gonna go to the moon. And that's how we did go to the moon. And so we gotta push ourselves. The question, and we do, actually, we do push the very outer limits of what is possible in our government when we cut tax rates for the rich by two trillion dollars. That brings our government to a breaking point, but everybody thinks that's perfectly normal. And nobody goes around and go, how, how are you going to do that?

My God, that's going to rob the American people of $2 trillion in tax revenue. It's going to destroy the budget, et cetera. How are you going to do that? No, they just do it. They just do it. They don't care about the budget. They don't care about the deficit. And Anderson Cooper never, like, looks at him like, whoa, how would you do that?

You would do it by actually trying. When you try to, you know, take care of the rich or the defense contractors, it turns out you could start 17-year wars in the middle. It turns out you can start wars in a dozen countries and nobody goes, how are you gonna bomb 12 different countries at once? So, I know I risk making this conversation go way longer than it needs to, but you know, this is a commentary more about the media and the obsession with remaining neutral, right? Does Anderson Cooper really think that by pretending to be objective, we don't know what his biases are?

Like his biases are all over the place when it comes to this particular interview. Right? So it's evident in the way that he covered the proposed tax cuts for the wealthy. It's evident in the way he frames his questions in this interview. Your biases are out there, we see them. So please spare me this nonsense about like, I'm a journalist and I want to remain objective. Objectivity is incredibly important, but what you do is neutrality. And then even while you do that, it's abundantly clear where your, you know, where your political

philosophy lies. And where your assumptions lie. Right. Your assumption is that no progressive priority is worthwhile and should not be attempted. But every Republican policy, no matter how disastrous it is, is sensible and pragmatic. And it's not to say that there shouldn't be any debate about it, but you don't find it outlandish. You find it perfectly normal and acceptable. And in Washington, it has been, because Washington, unlike the rest of the country, has been massively right.

Why do you think you're interviewing Cassio-Cortez? Why do you think she's so popular? It's because the overwhelming majority of the country that's progressive, that's about 60% of the country look at a poll, okay, goes, oh, thank God, finally somebody on our side. Finally, someone on our side that's allowed on television. Right. All right, well, let's have some fun because while Anderson Cooper, you know, tries to hold back from sharing what his biases are, there are right wingers who do not hold back.

And Ed Rollins, a Trump supporter, is one of those people. Now, on a recent interview on Fox business, Rollins couldn't help himself when it came to insulting both Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Talib. Take a look. Some really interesting people and some very smart people. If you're gonna put her out front with her mouth, which she's now has attention that she's never had before, and you're gonna put the little girl who wants to do pre-Ragan economics of 70% taxes, the Democrat women are gonna basically be damaged, damaged bed.

Wow, wow, I mean, which was worse, Anna, that little girl or with her mouth? Well, I mean, they're both pretty bad, let's keep it real, but it's also kind of, I find it kind of funny because he's so oblivious to what the reality is. So when I saw that video over the weekend, I tweeted something about how it's fun to see the extinction of dinosaurs in real time. Because he's insulting Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's intelligence. He's a Trump supporter, okay? So that's it, that's all I need to say.

Intelligence. It's over. We're done. And then- You support the dumbest guy who's ever been in office. You know the stealth fighter, it's invisible, you can't see it. You know, the clean coal, you take it out and you watch it, you support an absolute moron. Nobody knew healthcare was this complicated. Did you know Puerto Rico is surrounded by water because it's an island?

Okay? You want to talk about, oh, come on. And then, like, his second thing he's oblivious too is that that's not going to play well when you go, oh, that little girl with her running her mouth like that. I mean, to be fair, he's on Fox, so that does play well on Fox. And he's talking to Lou Dobbs, who's like, yes, that's right. Those women should shut their mouth, shouldn't they add, right? That's why we love Trump.

I know, I got it, guys, I got it. But to me, actually, the third part of why he's wrong is the most important, which is the substantive thing, which is, she's like, oh, pre, we're gonna go back to the pre-Ragan years. Ed, do you know any history at all? I mean, you support a moron, so I'm not surprised that you also know nothing. Pre-Ragan years were the years that you guys all claim were the best times in America. Oh, the good old 1950s, that's what every conservative says, make America great again, right?

The pre-Ragan years was when America had the biggest economic boom that any country has ever had in the history of the world. And during that entire time, the top marginal tax rate was between 70 to 91%. Learn some history, you dotered. Well, Rollins wasn't the only person who went after Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. In fact, Fox and Friends felt that this insanely high tax rate would be a disincentive to work. Take a look. Texted 90%. Why bother?

Did the gentleman refer to a fair share? Yes. A fair share is 90% for the government and maybe 10% kept by you. What's the incentive of working hard and don't the people who contribute that much to society or creating the big

businesses, aren't they helping our economy? It would be very bad news for America's economy. You don't want the government coming in and say, but you've made too much. You're too aggressive. You're We're too successful, we're gonna take 90% off you. That's ridiculous. Well, they just won't do anything.

The most successful people pull back and say, I don't have to do anything. I have to create any more jobs, starting more businesses, and I'm gonna pull back. That is precisely what will happen. So I just want to remind you guys, and most of you already know this, but just in case, look, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is talking about a marginal tax rate, right? So the amount of money that would be taxed after an insanely amount of, insane amount of money. So let's say you've already brought in $10 million that year, anything over $10 million would be taxed at that marginal tax rate.

It does not mean that 90% of someone's income would be taken away by the federal government. It would not work that way. But of course, they very conveniently left that out of the conversation. Well, I mean, there's a number of reasons. First of all, they talk about 90%. She never said 90%. She says 60 to 70%. Okay, so then everybody in the media made it 70%, even though she said 60 to 70%.

And then the, and then Fox News comes in, goes, oh, that's in community, let's just call it 90. Why don't you just call it 99 while you're at it, okay? As long as you're making up numbers, because she didn't say that. And you know the president that had it at 91% was Eisenhower, he was a Republican. So again, they don't know anything. Steve Ducey later in the interview in that discussion said, well then that'll teach people, man, you know, don't make 10 million dollars. That's the lesson to be learned here, because that's when it would kick in.

Again, you schmuck. I wish I had that problem. I know, first of all, that'd be great, right? You know, I was gonna bring in more than $10 million this year, but I decided not to, because, you know, I'm gonna get taxed very high at that marginal tax rate. But Steve Ducey literally doesn't understand what a marginal tax rate is. He thinks once you hit $10 million, it goes back and taxes everything at 60 to 70%, including the whole $10 million, no, the whole $10 million is at a lower tax rate.

The $10 million and first dollar is taxed at 60 to 70%. He's like, oh, well, you don't want to hit 10 million. No, yes, you do. First of all, it's 10 million. Second of all, the next dollar would be taxed at the higher rate. Okay, but they're ignorant on Fox students, that's not breaking news, to be honest, right? But the core of what they're saying, again, is monumentally wrong. They're saying, well, then these Ubermensch, these legendary business people with all their incredible

talent that they have bestowed upon us, upon the lesser people like you. Well, they would just take their talent and go home. And how would they make money then? Warren Buffett has addressed this. Warren Buffett, quite the capitalist who has made a lot of money. He said, anyone who tells you that they won't work if there's a higher tax rate is the worst businessman there is. Because we're all here to make money.

It doesn't, like, not to say that it doesn't matter what the tax rate is, but we're all We're gonna show up to make money anyway, of course. You know what you would be if you said, oh, you know, I do, look like, it was a 52% would have been fun, but at 53% I'm going home. You know what you are? Then you're a bum. You're not an entrepreneur, you're not a business person, okay? And then furthermore, the reason why the economy did so well back then was partly because

what did you do? You create an incentive to reinvest in your business. You take the money out, it gets taxed to 70%. You keep the money in your business, it doesn't get taxed at all, you reinvest it. You get new machines, you get new equipment, you hire more people, and your business grows and grows and the economy grows and grows. No, no, no. But if you have a lower tax rate, you've created the incentive not to do wealth creation,

but to do wealth extraction. So you take the money out of the businesses, you put it in a savings, that's good for you. Bless your heart for doing savings, but it does not go back into the economy, and it does not go back into your businesses, and the economy does worse. Wait, but I thought that a higher marginal tax rate would destroy the economy. I mean, where does the destruction come in? Well, if it would have destroyed the economy, how come it didn't destroy the economy in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s?

It's just not true. It's just not historically true, it's not factually true, that's why it's on Fox News. Yeah, all right, well, there's one final part of this that I want to talk about. Representative Steve Scalise was on Fox News and he was talking about a Twitter debate that he was engaging in with Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio, Corpore. over the issue of taxes. Now, AOC wants a higher marginal tax rate. A Republican like Scalise, it has no interest in that.

And apparently while they were going back and forth, some people on Twitter, this is crazy, I don't know if anyone else has ever experienced this, were rude to Representative Scalise. No, on Twitter? They said mean things to him. That's gotta be at first. They were very mean. Hey, we broke that story here first. We did.

I mean, I can't even believe it. Now, I don't want to put words in Representative Scalise's mouth, so why don't we hear from him on Fox News? Well, you know, I was just trying to have a little fun debate about this. I mean, it's an important issue. I strongly disagree with this idea that you should just confiscate all the money or most of the money that people make and try to get into this class warfare debate. By the way, our tax rates, the fact that we cut taxes is creating jobs. It's helping rebuild our middle class, those very hard working families. And once we started getting into this Twitter back and forth, a lot of her followers

started making some very inappropriate references and comments. And I said, you know what, I'm not gonna have this debate here. Yeah, I'll have it with you on the house floor. Oh my God, inappropriate comments on Twitter. Wow, I'm so, hey, you know what, I like to apologize on behalf of all progressive Steve Scalese. I didn't know there were inappropriate things going on Twitter. And next thing you know, you tell me that the other parts of the internet also have

inappropriate things. It's weird. I've never heard of people being mean online. Anyway, he elaborates, though. I want to go to the next clip. Everybody knows you were shot, almost killed. Miracchio's story that you weren't, thank goodness. And all of a sudden, these followers are saying they're going to snipe you. So you got threats. Did she call you, contact you in any way? No, I haven't heard from her yet. And do you think it's inappropriate that she didn't? Well, I'd like to see her stand up to this. Everybody ought to stand up to this kind of discussion. If somebody wants to have a debate about policy, that's what we're all about.

That's what the First Amendment's all about. But you shouldn't threaten people. And if you've got to threaten people to make your point, you've already lost. And when it comes to followers, you could stand up to that. Yeah. No, you know what? I love the new Scalese rule. Because it just eliminated the entire right wing online.

If you make a threat, you've already lost the battle. Great, all of you pack it up and go home. Because the right wing, apparently Scalise, I don't know if he really genuinely doesn't know because he's new to the internet or if he's pretending not to know. The right wing makes threats non-stop on Twitter, non-stop. Okay, look, I don't, look, I obviously don't agree with the threats that people put out there on Twitter. The reason why I have the reaction that I do to the story is because I'm alive and I

experience this every single day. And look, to be fair to Representative Scalise, there is a possibility that he's new to this, right? Because look, I think back to the hearings that lawmakers had with the Google CEO. And the questions that they asked him included, you know, I googled our attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act and there were nothing but negative articles written about me. What happened? Right?

Like they just couldn't believe it, that there were negative comments, articles, whatever out there. So who knows? Senator Scalese falls under that umbrella. But you want Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez to call you and do what? To apologize on behalf of Twitter trolls that are attacking you? What about the Twitter trolls that attack her? What about the right-wing Twitter trolls that are on your side who decided to attack her in the middle of your debate about tax policy?

Are you gonna call her and apologize? Is it gonna be an apology fest about randos on Twitter? What's wrong with you guys? Rando's on Twitter. Okay, in which case, I guess we're gonna have to have an apology tour by the Republicans. It's crazy. Every single Republican in the country owes me an apology, owes me a call to, not because they all attacked me, but their followers have all attacked me.

So, I'd give you my number, but I wouldn't. No, no, don't call me, don't apologize, I don't want to hear from you. Again, I live in the year 2019, I understand how social media works. But one final thing I just wanted to quickly add is, look, you've lost the argument when you've immediately gone from actually debating the tax policy to, you know, talking about your, you know, your experience getting shot, okay? Why, why did they need to deflect to that, right? Like I feel like it was a crutch and it was incredibly lame to do that.

Yeah, it was the ace in the hole, right? So they're like, okay, the economic times were better in the 1950s and 60s when the tax rate was 70 to 91%. On the other hand, I got shot. Yeah, it was a year. Now look, Steve Scalese getting shot was terrible. And we said that on the show a million times. It's part of the gun violence epidemic in this country.

We actually want to do something about it. Steve Scalese doesn't. He thinks, oh no, that's great. We should have guns everywhere so that anybody, right wing, left wing, et cetera, can just grab a gun and shoot whoever they don't like. I believe that's slightly worse than what happens on Twitter. Second of all, if you're gonna talk about crazy people on Twitter, just look at MAGA, look at the right wing, it is filled with vitriol.

Look at Trump, look at Trump, I mean, he tweets out videos where he's body slamming CNN. Look at Trump's various speeches. In one speech, he was giving kudos to a lawmaker who body slammed a reporter. Like you really wanna, I mean, you wanna talk about people putting threats out on Twitter or putting violent rhetoric out on Twitter. Come on. Trump calls the press the enemy of the people. Enemy of the people are people you're supposed to attack, right?

I mean, but again, if you're talking about randos on Twitter, as Anna put it, the right wing is a thousand times more guilty. It's not to say that nobody on the left wing does anything bad, but are you kidding me? If we're measuring who's doing worse things and who's doing more threats, and the right wing wins that war by a landslide, landslide. Look, we did a random story here where we're like this, all these talk of death threats and like, Susan Collins was like, oh my God, it turns out people didn't like that I voted on yes on Cabinol.

And people said mean things about me online. Really, Sherlock, you figured that out. And so because of that, we once did a video, we're like, look, let's just take the first two pages of a random video we did on YouTube, and see how many death threats there are. There was half a dozen death threats in just the first two pages, but comments went on for thousands of other comments. Look out of any random video that we've done, and you'll find death threat after death threat after death threat.

So when these guys are like, somebody said that I was a jerk, why she apologized to me? Are you kidding me? Look at what the monsters on your side do every single day online. And then please go find a safe space and go cry over there. I'm sorry, her Twitter followers, to be fair, should have given you a little bit of a warning against their microaggressions, because I know you care a lot about that. They're pretty big aggressions though on Twitter. Anyway, all right, we got to take a break.

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Thank you for keeping him honest. Okay, well, Kossack, there you go. Ryan writes in, these are all members, t.yt.com slash join to become a member. The fact that Pelosi has so much power is the reason to occupy her office. How else you're going to get anything changed if you don't reach them? powerful people in Washington. But on CNN, CBS, et cetera, status quo is awesome. Don't rock the boat, it's our boat.

Okay, smooth. I feel like Claire McCaskill has been the voice of Pelosi and the conservative liberals in Congress. They all want people to bow their head and get in line. Totally agreed. Let's go to Twitter. We're gonna go to Santos-Wante here. AOC was echoing climate scientists urgent need for rapid adjustments to our

society and the way we consume and live, the environment is not going to care what tax bracket you are in. So it is, Santos, thank you for writing that in because it's a great point. She's like, I agree with 99% of the world scientists. And as your Cooper is like, really? Well, I do declare. Okay. Someone else wrote in about how quickly computers evolved, Laura Gelizunis did.

Think about that, if we try, maybe things can develop fairly quickly. We don't try, nothing will happen, okay? EF. Huso writes in, I like that name, Huso. Okay, these elites, including the news actors, are so upset that the money they earn over $10 million should be taxed higher should just follow their own advice and get a second job and do a better job of saving money. You guys, but like, just think about this for a second, okay? $10 million, like you've made $10 million that year.

Like you're good, you're good, even if you stop at $10 million, if you stop at $500,000, If you stop at $500,000, okay, you're good. But like, you can't pay a little extra in taxes after making $10 million in a given year? Per year. Per year. I'd be done after one year. No, but you'd stop working, Jake. You'd have no incentive to work anymore.

Yeah, me, right? Anyway, last one. Tana Kassol writes in on Twitter, hashtag TYT live on Twitter to talk to us. You're telling me that overpaid CEOs don't actually produce anything but profit off the labor and talent of others are going to quit if they stop getting free money, sold. I hadn't thought of it that way. Is that the way we get them to quit? Okay, it's an interesting idea.

All right, Anna, what's next? We are currently on the 16th day of a partial government shutdown. In fact, by Friday, most government workers will miss out on their first full paycheck. Now, about half of the 800,000 federal workers are furloughed. The other half are considered essential workers, so they're forced to work without pay, and they are likely to get paid once the government reopens. But Trump doesn't really see this as much of an issue. Now he claims that he can relate to the federal workers, but he also continues to argue that

they're all on his side when it comes to this ridiculous debate over funding for the border wall. Take a look. I can relate, and I'm sure that the people that are on the receiving end will make adjustment. They always do. I think they will make an adjustment because they want to see the border taken care. They will make adjustment. People understand exactly what's going on. Those people are great Americans, they're great patriots. They want to make sure we have a strong board. You know, government workers want to see the border taken care if it affects them very dearly. But most of them make $5 million. They love our country and they want to make sure that we have

a strong border. But many of those people that won't be receiving a paycheck. Many of those people agree 100% with what I'm doing. Many of those people, maybe even most of those people, that really have not been and will not be getting their money in at this moment, those people in many cases are the biggest fan of what we're doing. No, they're not. They are not the biggest fans of what he's doing. In fact, many of them are now either calling in sick. TSA workers in record numbers are calling in sick. And, I mean, this has been a complete, another disaster for them, because remember, the government shutdown began during the holidays.

So he decided to undergo this ridiculous showdown as the holidays are happening. And now, by Friday, many of them will miss out on their first full paycheck. They're not living, you know, these lavish lifestyles. They're not wealthy, they didn't inherit $413 million from Papa like Donald Trump did. So no, Trump cannot relate to them. These are Americans who, in a lot of cases, were already struggling financially, and this situation has made it a lot worse. So first of all, we don't even have to debate it.

There's already a survey done of federal workers, 71% were opposed to the shutdown. So maybe even most of them. No, not most of them. Most of them were opposed, and that's before they started missing paychecks. And that's before you made 420,000 people show up to work and then not get paid. And at that point, already 71% were like, hell no, no, we don't want to. government shut down. So as usual, Donald Trump making things up, just pulling facts right out of, you know, where.

And so he's a liar. I don't know, we say it every day, but we gotta keep saying it every day. So we have a president who just doesn't care about the truth, doesn't care, not real. And like, and his followers don't care though. You think they think that most government workers are diehard Trump fans and they can't, they love having to go to work and not getting paid? Nobody believes that, not even the dumbest maggot guy believe.

They're like, oh yeah, the president's lying again, I love what people lie, yeah, okay, you're on that team. God help you. So one of the government agencies that's been impacted by this is the IRS, and it's the beginning of the year, which means people are getting ready to file their taxes, and they're looking forward in some cases to a tax refund, and they're unlikely to get it on time, and so Trump was asked about that as well, and you know what he said? He's like, no, no, no, don't worry, everyone's going to get their tax refunds on time.

But can you elaborate? How? How? I mean, this is a government agency that's been impacted by your government shutdown, which you yourself claimed could go on for months, even years. Okay? So how? Please explain that to us.

Yeah. And here's where it's really gonna hit the fan. Snap does not have enough money in its coffers for a whole month. They have $3 billion in emergency reserves, a normal month has $4.8 billion, because 19 million families are on Snap. Snap is basically food stamps. Now, most of those folks are white. And so now the only reason I bring up race is because in the rest of the media, they give off the impression that most of the people receiving food stamps for welfare are black. That is just not true. That is another alternative fact. And a lot of uneducated whites in this country

unfortunately voted for Trump. So now they might say get your government hands off my Medicare And because they're ignorant, they don't realize that Medicare is the government. But when your food stamps don't arrive, and look, I actually, unlike Trump, I have great sympathy for them. Even though they're knuckleheads and they voted the wrong way, if they're in that specific demographic, that voted for Trump. But I don't want their kids to go hungry. I'm not punitive like the Republicans. But when all of a sudden you don't have your food stamp, they're going to be really mad. They're like, wait a minute, I didn't know you were going to cut my food stamps.

I think you're gonna cut maybe some parks and museums and things from black people. You're cutting things from me? There are no white food stamps and black food stamps. They're gonna cut all food stamps if they get to a point in the month where they don't have any more money. See, that's why I don't believe in partial government shutdowns. I think they're actually really damaging to the concept of government because it gives people the impression that the only thing the government does is run the parks.

So no, if you actually shut down the government, there'd be no TSA. Nobody could travel anywhere, okay? And they'd be no military. No military, we'd never have a government shut down. Okay, I have to jump in. Of course it's not true that the only thing the government does is run the parks. But even if it were true, like that's a huge tragedy to have that shut down, like it really is.

And we're experiencing that tragedy right now with all of our national parks, essentially getting destroyed by people, you know, with their human waste and their littering and all that stuff. There's no one there to clean it up. Yeah, I just, yeah. Yeah. But you make a good point. The cops are also the government. You know, you love you.

Oh, blue lies matter. That's the government. Fire department, that's the government. You want to shut down the fire department? No, the government is essential and you don't realize it. So the minute it starts to affect them, whether they don't get the tax refunds or the food stamps, etc. They're going to go, what is this?

Because you're underestimating how ignorant Trump voters are. They don't know anything. That's why they voted for Donald Trump. They know nothing. So when it affects them, they're like, what is this? Who did this? Who did this? So, and already nobody wants to shut the government down over the wall.

That's another poll we know for a fact, only 25% of Americans support that. Three quarters of Americans say, do not shut the government down over the stupid wall. So he's nonstop lying. But to me actually, those lies are clear, but we have to have debates over them, okay? But to me, the worst part was, yeah, of course I could relate to them. Well, to be fair, Donald Trump did make an adjustment. He started getting $200,000 a year from his dad at the age of three. And then he adjusted at the age of 40 to get another $200,000 and at five, another $200,000

until he got all the way up to $413 million given to him by his daddy. And so when he went bankrupt the first time, he made the adjustment of getting more money from his dad, the second time more money from his dad, the sixth time more money from his dad. Look at all those adjustments that he made. To say that he could relate to somebody who gets $500 a week, just, but he doesn't have an ounce of compassion or empathy. So he dismissed it like, they'll make adjustments, they're 100% on my side. You're sickening, you're a liar, you're unbearable, and your lack of empathy for any other

human being is repulsive. I think it's important to hear from some of these government workers as well. So we did a little research to find some videos of them kind of sharing their stories. We're gonna quickly go through these videos. The first one features a TSA agent who's working with no pay. It creates a big distraction. Our primary focus is on security, and we have to be 100% focused on that. And having to think about where your next paycheck is gonna come from or if it's gonna come

at all is a huge distraction for everybody. So I'm sure at some level it takes our edge away. There you have it, a TSA agent doesn't seem like he's particularly happy about what's going on and doesn't seem like he's happy about making adjustments. Here is a furloughed IRS agent. I sat up like till 3 o'clock last night trying to figure out, well, let's get ready to come out next week. I can't let that come out next week because all else fell, the mortgage has to be paid.

The heat has to stay on. I'm not in any danger, but right now, I don't know what February, are we going into February? Then that changes the game all together. So a lot of financial instability for these government workers because of what's happening. And then finally, one more federal worker on CNN who's explaining that she's not expecting a paycheck on Friday. And she doesn't even know who she would turn her hours into.

who to turn them to in order to get paid. Take a look. The pay period of the 16th through the 31st. I had 63 hours that we did work before the shutdown and I have not been able to submit my time sheet that I know of because there's no one to approve it in the office where I work. But remember guys, Trump can relate to them and they'll make adjustments. It's not that big of a deal.

Although there's a part of that story that I'm amused by because remember they're broken down on the essential government workers and non-essential, which is already been insulting, but of the 800,000, 420,000 are considered essential. Apparently, she's among them, the last person that you saw there, but her boss is not. Because she doesn't have anybody to turn it into. She's like, well, I got to work, but my boss is so non-essential, he's not here. Or she's not here, I don't know. Anyway, now putting that aside, there's a reason why a lot of people have stopped showing up

to work. For example, 170 TSA agents have not gone into work at JFK. And now that is spreading to more and more airports. Dallas Fort Worth is having a significant problem. People not showing up to work is up to two to three hundred percent among TSA agents. And of course, what's the right way I'm gonna say? A bums, they won't come in to work. They won't come in to work for free, that's interesting.

Okay, now they might or might not get their check later. We hope that they do get it, but that's not why they're not coming in. And I have to confess that I didn't get it until I was reading, of all things, a Wall Street Journal article. The main reason they're not coming in is because they don't have money, so they have to go get another job. So for example, Robert Souter, who's 36, is a market analyst for the Office of Natural Resources. He's a market analyst.

You know what he's doing right now? Driving an Uber. Because he's got to get food for his family. So he's like, I can't show up to work because I got to work for a living. So it's crazy, it really is. And so I knew that people were going to struggle, obviously, like, and we talked about it endlessly on the show. But I didn't think about the second part, which is a lot of people are not coming in because

they can't afford the babysitter anymore. So then they got to take care of their kids because they can't, they have no money for the babysitter. Yep. Or they have no money for daycare or preschool. They don't have any. So because they don't have a check. They don't have a check.

Remember we told you this a lot on the program because no one else will tell you, okay? 30% of Americans cannot withstand a $400 blow to their finances. They'll have to sell things off or go into debt, okay? Because they don't, we don't have any money saved up because our wages are disastrously low, right? So that's why they're going to have to drive Ubers and can't afford the babysitters, et cetera, and now, you know, the right wing, of course, then turn around and blame them, right? No, but they didn't cause the problem, you know who did, Donald Trump said it when he was

in the White House with Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer said, I'll shut the government down. It'll be the Trump shutdown. And I'll do it to get the wall, which only a quarter of the country wants. Three quarters don't want to shut down over the wall. So as usual, he defies the will of the American people over and over again and hurt so many Americans in the process, all for his own ego. Even if he got the five billion for the wall, it'd be a tiny percentage of the money that he needs for the overall wall, which he's never going to get.

It's all symbolic. It's all for his ego. Let's take a break when we come back. Trump has changed some of his rhetoric when it comes to the border wall and we'll tell you how. And later on the show, we actually have some really great news coming out of Tennessee. It has to do with clemency and I can't wait to talk about it, so stick around, we'll give you that and more.

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