The Young Turks - Jeffries Endorses Mamdani - October 24, 2025

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

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quite powerful joining us on the show. Nina Turner, how's it going? Hey, John is going well. The black pearl dragon is in the house. I'm on the road. So I am in the nation's capital right now. The nation's capital. Okay, well, hopefully the building you're in doesn't suffer some, you know, renovation work without much notice. Or I heard D.C. is just, It's just mad max in terms of crime. Is that been your experience or did Donald Trump get a handle on that? I think President Trump got a handle on it, John. Okay, good, good. Small miracles. But anyway, very glad to have you here. As we were prepping to go live, I was like going over in my mind what I was going to say for the dropping

it. And then I remember not technically a power panel also because Jank is out of town. But I still think we're going to have a lot of fun, not only because we have you, but also because we have some awesome stories that I think you're going to be really interested in, including updates on the New York mayoral race. We've got some developments over in Gaza, and just a lot of terrible money, a lot of corruption, a lot of blatant criminality. You know, it's America, it's 2025. So we're going to dive into it. Everybody out there if you're watching live, definitely give us a little algorithmic boost hitting a like button and all of that stuff. But with all that said,

Nina, you ready to do this thing? I'm ready, John. I just want to say, I hope people know I was joking when I said President Trump got a handle on it. I mean, I was just here. I hope they know, John, I was just here last weekend. I saw the National Guard out in real time. I'm in the Navy Yard area and it was just really surreal. And all they were doing was huddled up among themselves having a conversation. I mean, you want to talk about a waste of time and a waste of resources. But here we are. But I just want our audience to know I was, I was joking. I definitely got that. Yeah, definitely a waste of time and resources. And also while the government is shut down, but all the stuff he likes still seems to get funded. Weird how that works out, the important things like conquering America and building ballroom. That always gets funded. from it, just to train myself, like a, like a, I cannot believe how often I do. I don't even know when I cut off. So I'll just say, we need some funding for your mute,

for your mute button. It's the most sensitive muse, mute button. Blue, come on. Anyway, let's jump into the first story. Same answer. I have not, I have not refused to endorse. I have refused to articulate my position and I will momentarily at some point in advance of early voting. Well, that was very clear. It's not that I haven't endorsed. I haven't made clear whether endorsing or nodding, but of course, endorsing a person is an affirmative action. And if you're not doing that, if you're not actively doing the thing, then you haven't endorsed Hakeem Jeffries. But whatever, muddled language aside, the momentarily did come. And although that video

was just earlier today, he did actually finally endorse Zoran Mamdani in the New York mayoral race, putting out a statement to the New York Times. I mean, why do it on video where somebody could quote you? He clearly doesn't want video of him doing it. Anyway, he said in this statement that he acknowledged that the two men had areas of principled disagreement, but he said that Mamdani had won a free and fair Democratic primary and emphasized that the party needed to unite against an existential threat from President Trump. He says, Zorn Mamdani has relentlessly focused on addressing the affordability crisis and explicitly committed to being a mayor for all New Yorkers including those who do not support his candidacy.

He added in that spirit, I support him and the entire citywide Democratic ticket in the general election. And first question is going to go to you, Nina. Should we just accept that he finally did it? Is it being petty to acknowledge that he undercut it in every possible way in that statement? What do you think? John, let's be petty. Okay. I love me some good petty. First of all, the man's endorsement is irrelevant and it's insignificant. You got about 12, what, 12 days before the election. You know, what have,

John, I'm old enough to remember when neoliberal was like him wanted to force progressives. And I think the slogan was vote blue no matter who. And then you have assembly member Zoron Mondani win the Democratic primary to straight out right. And all of a sudden, they want to change the rules. Who needs his endorsement? I would say to Zoran's team, they don't need this man's endorsement. He's just trying to cover his behind at this point. It is half-hearted.

And then when he says that Mondami has convinced him that he wants to be the mayor for all New Yorkers, even those who didn't vote for him, with no sugar, Sherlock. Yeah, everybody running for office. You know, when I ran, everybody didn't vote for me. However, once I took that oath of office, I had to serve all. So that's not some big epiphany here. The man, John, you tell me what you think. He might as well not endorsed as far as I'm concerned. His endorsement means nothing. Well, hold up because in this next graphic, Ken Clippenstein put this out. The New York Times says that his support provides a late boost. And the New York Times said, and he clearly needed it. He needed Hakeem Jeffrey's support there.

Yeah, no, I love your point about the vote blue no matter who. We need maybe somebody who has a better grasp of the English language can tell me this. We need a term for when there's an expression that sounds universal, but in practice is very much not universal. Like I've always said, we have this, they used to talk about political correctness. That sounds like a universal thing that you could apply to anyone. Nope, it doesn't apply. If you were to insult Christianity, right wingers would be mad about it because you were being politically incorrect, but then they would complain that you were requiring them to be politically correct. Like it doesn't actually apply both ways. Vote blue no matter who is the exact same thing. It doesn't mean vote blue no matter who. It means

vote establishment even if you don't want to. That's literally all it means. That's all it means. And let us not forget, you know, I got to bring up and I know you remember her and I know she interviewed many times on TYT, sister India Walton from Buffalo, New York, another example. She won the primary straight up against the incumbent, but they found a way to put the incumbent on another line in Buffalo. And unlike what's happening to Mandami, they walked her down and they beat her. They did, yeah. And not a whole lot of people talk about her. I know Buffalo certainly is not as big as New York, New York, but I want to remind our viewers that we've been down this path before where neoliberals refused to accept

that the progressive won the primary and tried to find, not tried, did find other ways to try to thwart their ability to win. What Mandami has that unfortunately, India Walton did not have is, you know, just the the wind under his wings, more time. I surmise that he owes a lot of the victory. that he is about to have two people like India Walton, two people like Senator Bernie Sanders, two people like Senator Nina Turner

and other progressos who went through the fire way before him. So let's not get this twisted. The neol liberals will try every tact, every single tact to stop a progressive from winning. And sometimes they are successful. I, John, would love to know your opinion on this. I think they're not gonna be able to stop him winning, but I believe that they're going to try to stop him from governing or let's go

it up. Oh, I definitely think they will. And you know, similarly, I was saying for a long time back, you know, during President Bernard, or President Candidate. Oh, that sounds so good. I know it did sound so good. Sorry, I sometimes I dream live. But anyway, that had he gotten into the presidency, they would have tried. The Democrats would have worked with Republicans to gum it up and the Supreme Court would have just done it. Like it would have been, but that, but whatever. So what? We still got a, we got to fight. We got to get the best people in. But they will definitely do that. And their hope will be that we can make it look like a failure or at least pitch it as a failure as a cautionary tale against anyone in the future.

And by the way, maybe it'll be a failure. Maybe, but I would love to actually try it out. And much more importantly than whether I would love that, the people of New York clearly want to give it a try. So the fact that they can't trust these so-called Democrats to actually respect the will of those voters is I think ridiculous. To talk about he's he's explicitly committed to being a mayor for all New Yorkers. He didn't need to do that. You guys were questioning that. He never gave any reason to believe he would be anything other than that. In fact, I'm going to flip that around on you. When you guys keep putting forward these people who clearly only care about the interests of the top 1% of New York, they should have to explicitly commit that they're

actually going to represent more than just their wealthy donors. And clearly, Cuomo did didn't convince enough people that that's what he was going to do. When they're like, well, I guess he won a free and fair Democratic primary, that is the most begrudging BS you can put in there. And we do need to unite against his existential threat. Look, Hakeem Jeffries, I understand you're supposed to be the master strategy after all your Democratic leadership. I'm just some jackass on YouTube. But like, he's gonna win. You're you are endorsing him. So if you're gonna do it, at least get some of the benefit of that by not spitting in the face of all the people that support him. The reason that he's so much more

popular than even a well-known established figure like Cuomo. It's like you're getting the worst of both worlds. You did it too late, you did it begrudgingly, and you're making it clear to his supporters that you don't actually, you're not learning any lessons from this, and you're damn sure not going to apply them to any of the other races going forward in the midterms. And so, look, I don't want to, I don't want to go from petty into a hundred percent hostile, but this is almost as bad as not endorsing him at all. Let's go. In some way, it might be worse.

Let's let's go. I mean, let's go there. They go there all the time. I would have more respect for Congressman Hakeem, Jeffries, had he just looked in the camera and said, you know what, I don't care New Yorkers, y'all voted, but this ain't my guy, and I'm just not going to endorse. But he hemmed and hauled, he made up all types of excuses. And he was hedging, John.

I believe he was hedging to see if Cuomo would pick up some steam so that he could go the other way. But since that did not happen, here he is in literally in the 11th hour. Yeah. Endorsing Zoran Mondami. I hope that no New Yorker falls for this and understand what type of leader he is not. And I do understand somebody or a group of somebody's that running against him in 2026. I think some of this is his self-interest so he can just check. off a box. But I hope whoever is running against Hakeem Jeffries, I wish you a lot of luck,

because I could deal with somebody better if they just straight up about they mess. But he's not. So he lacks courage and intestinal fortitude. And he definitely does not believe in the will of the primary voters in New York. Because if he did, he would have endorsed him a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah, it's just it's so frustrating, not only to see them maintain their positions in leadership after 2024, which is like, come on, man. I just, we just got done with the WMBA season and a couple of the coaches that couldn't make it done. They got fired, okay? One coach got fired. They won the championship last year, but they failed this year, so they fired their coach. It might have been a little bit harsh,

but like at least some people are looking for new ideas. The Democrats are like, we've already, the Titanic has already sunk. It's now descending deeper and deeper. And they're like, no, not yet. I think still Schumer at this point, like what has Schumer gotten us that we have this loyalty or that we're supposed to have this loyalty? And by the way, why is it that Mamdani is so much more popular than a corporate Democrat? Why is it that AOC is so much more popular than Chuck Schumer? Why are we not supposed to draw any wider, like lessons from any of this about what people want? We're definitely not supposed to draw any lessons from what happened in 2024, And we're definitely not supposed to apply any of these lessons to 2026 and especially 2028.

When they're hoping Donald Trump maybe won't run again or maybe will or maybe his heart will have exploded his chest or whatever. And then we can just get back to normal Democratic stuff. We slip Gavin Newsom in there. You know what? Maybe we didn't get Cuomo, but we'll get you know the California version or whatever. That's what it feels like at this point. And then yeah, sorry, continue. No, at their own peril, they refuse to learn a lesson. And in any other industry, somebody like a Hakeem Jeffries or a Chuck Schumer would not maintain their position. I mean, how do we expect the same group of people who got us in this mess to get us out of this mess, especially since they have not learned any single lesson whatsoever?

I hope the Democratic voter, the primary voter and the general, but especially the primary voters, that they remember this, the Democratic fateful, John, who are being failed by these people. They could have done a better job when they control both chambers of the United States Congress, and they also controlled the presidency, and they could have wielded power. I don't like 99.9% of the things that President Trump is doing, and I know we're going to start to talk about some of this other wild stuff. But I tell you what, he's using power, and he's not making excuses about why he can't use that power, the Democrats had the same opportunity. He could have expanded the court. They could have done away with the filibuster. They could

increase the federal minimum wage from $7.25. They could have passed the John Lewis voted rights. I mean, John, you and I could spend the whole our whole hour together talking about how they could have used raw power to change material conditions. But they did not do that. And now you have somebody running in New York, as you said, maybe. it works, maybe it doesn't. Who is talking about the affordability crisis, the suffering of New Yorkers, and then these people got the pure unadulterated gall to hedge. 100%. There's only one or two other little things I want to mention, just that Eric Adams has endorsed Cuomo as of today, saying New York can't be Europe, folks. Those Islamic

extremisms that are burning churches in Nigeria, that are destroying communities in Germany, that have taken over the, that have taken over the logical thinkings. That is a direct quote. And that's what I'm fighting for. Because Mamdani, who literally just talks about affordability, he's a Muslim radical, basically Muslim Brotherhood. He's going to burn down the whole goddamn city. It's absolutely absurd how they can slander these people. But as bad as that is, one of the other things he said, I thought, said more about the way he and Cuomo and probably Hakeem Jeffries think about all this. So Adams had previously deemed Cuomo a snake and a liar, but I guess a snake is better than a Muslim, I suppose, before dropping his election campaign. And Adam said, brothers fight,

but when families are attacked, brothers come together. Now, they want you to believe that that's like when New York is attacked or whatever we come together, but New York is picked. They don't want you, Eric Adams, and they don't want Cuomo. So that ain't the family. I know what the family is. It's the establishment. It's the donors. When the donors are attacked, the donors paid and bought warriors go out there and yeah, they come together and they fight. That's all it is. And they're doing it against Mom Dani. They did it against you. You know, Buttigieg's dropping out in Super Tuesday. They did it to Bernie. And they're going to do that. Like we can't expect that they're just going to lay down and allow us to take over the party

or whatever. But we can acknowledge that that is what they're doing. They have solidarity. But it ain't with us. It ain't with the city. It's not a demographic thing. It is a class thing. It is an ownership thing. And they're being very clear in this case about that. Any final thoughts on this? Yeah, the ruling class. There are two classes in the United States of America. The ruling class and the working class is the rest of us. And yeah, he's answering to his owner-donors, just like most politicians do. And your point, John, about the snake being better. Yeah, he has chosen a snake. He's not saying that he doesn't believe Cuomo's not a snake anymore.

He's just saying, I'm siding with my brother who happens to be a snake and a liar. His words. His words, yeah. His words. Exactly. Yeah, and I like your point about the, there's the two classes, the rulers and the ruled. And if you want to know which you're in, soon you'll be able to find out. The ones who get invited to magnificent ballroom are the ruling class and everyone else is us.

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and contact Desjardin today. We'd love to talk, business. Welcome back, one and all to the first hour of The Young Turks with me, John Arrilla and Nina Turner, Nina, as always, glad to have you here. As I said in the break, just in case, bonus episode is members only today. So just something to bear in mind. And with that, why don't we jump into more news? This footage that you're seeing right here was provided by the IDF.

And right there, they're marking the quote unquote yellow line. So that's the part of Gaza, the Israel now controls. Or I mean, since effectively they're going to end up controlling all of it. It's the part that on paper they're admitting that they control. Although as we're going to describe in this clip, it's actually a little bit more expansive than that. By the way, the portion that they are formally saying is now theirs is over half of the territory. So be clear about that, after the genocide, after all of that, at least for now, and we'll see what happens. They have taken more than half of the territory and destroyed much of the rest of it.

Palestinian civilians are already forbidden from crossing the line. And according to some members of the Israeli government, including the national security minister, Idemar Ben-Gavir, he believes that anyone approaching that line, man, woman, and child should be shot if they even approach it. Not if they attack, not if they're belligerent, just if they get near to it, they should be gunned down, which in his defense is a continuation of much of the policy that we've seen across Gaza for a couple of years now. So maybe this isn't that different from the status quo.

But this is according to reporting from Israel's Channel 14. So there was this cabinet meeting, a bunch of members of the government are discussing it. And the deputy chief of staff said that the Israeli army, is firing at adults across the line, but not at children and donkeys, to which that national security minister said, we must shoot at a child and a donkey too, enough with being merciful and accepting what happened until October 6th. And just imagine what is taking, what is going on in the bounds of his skull that he thinks what we've had up until this point is mercy. Since October 6th, decades leading up to October 6th, he thinks that was merciful.

They were going easy on the Palestinian people at that point. So not everybody agreed. There is some disagreement. So let's go through a couple different perspectives that were given across at that meeting. The Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development said, we don't have to jump straight to saying we need to shoot at everyone who approaches the fence. The military people are here, and I really hope they're not listening to you. So that's good, although it was just we don't have to jump to saying we're going to shoot everyone.

It's not ruling out shooting kids potentially, but it's still better than Gavir, who then double down saying, yes, we must shoot. Anyone who approaches needs to know they're taking a risk. And here is the actual defense minister, Israel Katz, said, anyone who approaches the fence needs to know they will be harmed. So we're going to pause there for a second. So this is this is the national security minister, defense minister are both very clear, We are gonna gun down anyone who comes there and also donkeys too, I suppose. We're just gonna, we're gonna shoot them. If we see a kid, we're to continue to shoot them on site. And we're, they call it peace, Nina. This is both a ceasefire when they're explicitly saying, no,

we're looking for all the ways that we can continue to fire. And this is a peace deal brought to us by the peace president, Donald Trump. What do you think? As chilling as what Ben Gavir and the others have said, it is, John, it's more the same. It's more the status quo, but it is absolutely. chilling that even in the face of a so-called ceasefire that they had to appear on an adultery to call all to say these things. And I call on President Donald J. Trump in this case to check them on this. You know, some of that bravado that the president has should be used in this case. And he should make it clear. Like, are there ways for us to use the president's bravado to the good? He should use that. to make it very clear that this is totally unacceptable now whether he will i doubt that he will but i would love for him to check them on this and the entire world should be absolutely i mean just mortified it is more the same and then to take half of the gaza strip when already you had almost

two million people already in an open air prison the gaza strip as it exists before they came in and bombed about 100% of it was already too small for that number of people. And now they're going to take half of what what was already too small, John? Yeah. I mean, how is this? How is this okay? And to remind our audience that I'm not just outraged by by this in this moment. I was outraged from the beginning and that most of the terror that the people of Gaza, the Palestinians have faced heretofore. Most of it happened under President Joseph R. Biden. Yeah, no, it's a great point. You also, but like you're not just critiquing, you're also providing a path forward. Donald Trump loves to throw his weight around,

and he also wants to get a Nobel Peace Prize. That's right. So he could easily say, You shoot one innocent child, your funding's cut off. That's it. Yeah, and one innocent donkey. Okay, well, no innocent donkey shot. But you know what? He's not going to do it. I already months ago, I told him, you should tell Israel for every child that starves, that's a month of your funding is cut off.

Come on. He could have done it. Come on, John. If he was actually strong, if he actually cared, the issue is that he could do it, but when has he ever used his influence, his power, power, his time or attention, for something based on taking a moral stand. That's not how it works. He does it to personally rich himself, to pay back his donors, to troll the left. Those are the three reasons that he wields power and to ensure permanent Republican governance, regardless of what the people think about it for reasons. He's not going to do it to save

some lives, to save some kids. He won't even do it in a callous attempt to assure himself a Nobel Peace Prize. So no, I don't, I don't expect that that's going to happen. And on that yellow line, because I imply this earlier, that's not actually the extent of the territory that Israel is controlling. They've a plate, first of all, they've placed the yellow line boundary markers hundreds of meters deeper into Gaza than the actual maps that were released. So they've just stolen more territory with the line. And then they're killing people far inside of the line. So there was a family, 11 people were killed, seven children, two women. That was 125 meters beyond the designated boundary line.

And also in some places, it's clear where the line is. In many places, it's not. And oh, I bet that's just an oversight. I bet that's not to produce a little bit of plausible deniability. So if you start shooting people, they didn't even necessarily know that they were getting close to the bear. The donkey literally can't see the line anyway, but they might get gunned down. So look, I was very pessimistic about the plan. I felt like I needed to express it because there were so few people in the media that were calling it out.

And just every day, it just looks worse and worse. I mean, how is this a legitimate ceasefire, John? So just playing to the president's ego on this. And I know this may be futile, but that's really what I'm thinking in my head, which is president, you're going to let Prime Minister Netanyahu make you look like a fool and take away your alpha male status. Even if just for those reasons, John, that he would clap back. I would love to see it.

When we think about children and donkeys, that's one level, but every time a child loses a parent, a grandparent, an aunt, an uncle, a fictive kin member to take a term out of the black community, that's still a tragedy because you're making these children orphan. So I know we like to lift up children thinking that it would make these people care more, but they just don't care. So they don't care if it's man, woman, child, or beast, obviously they will shoot. So come on, President Donald Day Trump, use that bravado of yours for some good here. Don't hold your breath, Nina.

I won't John, even if it's for his own self-preservation, don't let Netanyahu punk you, Mr. President. Yeah, yeah. Also, I'm saying you're not going to do it. You can make me look like an idiot. How about that? That's an extra thing for you. But you're not going to do it. That's why I'm so confident to say it. Dude doesn't care. He's not thinking about what's happening in in Gaza. He's building his $300 million fancy dancing room. That's all he cares about at this point, alpha male. He's concerned with ballrooms. That's all he's actually concerned with at this point. But let's turn to some people with actual bravery. We can't expect presidents to be brave, but there are actually some brave individuals in Israel who are standing up to their

government and their military strategy in Gaza. One is a 19 year old named Daniel Schultz, explained on a number of Twitter posts that they are going to be imprisoned this weekend for refusing to join the IDF, saying at 16 I started learning in a mixed Israeli and Palestinian boarding school. The oppression my Palestinian classmates endured revealed to me the lie of the worldview I grew up in and made me realize that the uniform I believed protected everyone from the river to the sea was actually the biggest threat for my classmates and a symbol of their ongoing oppression. I'm refusing because it is the most human thing to do in the face of babies starve to death, entire villages violently uprooted, and civilians sent to torture camps, there is no other choice.

Israeli society has no chance for rehabilitation as long as Zionism is its inseparable tenant. And that is a 19 year old who has exponentially more clarity of morality, like morality, of values, the ability to express it, then 95% of our government, the entirety of our White House, current or former inhabitants. And this is a 19 year old, you know, and there are actually good people. There are people in this world that care about others. And it maybe comes to the form of being imprisoned because you refuse the mandatory enlistment that they have there. Or, you know, maybe it's people on a flotilla willing to risk being murdered or tortured or sexually assaulted by the Israeli government just to try in vain to get some aid to people who are suffering.

Those people don't hold positions of power. Those people don't end up as billionaires. We've unfortunately made the choice as a society to continue to reward the worst among us with the most attention and resources in power. But don't let that convince you or fool you into thinking that there aren't good people. There are. Nina, what do you think? Yeah, amen to that, John. And so young Daniel Schultz, thank you for what you're doing. And there probably thousands, tens of thousands of people just like him whose voices

and names we won't know. And, you know, it made me think about Jennifer Perlman in Florida. I mean, she ran against Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She's in her district several times. She is Jewish. And she has over the years told the story about the indoctrination and her refusal. you know, that her eyes have been open and her refusal to accept it. So it is people like her, people like Daniel.

People quite frankly like Senator Bernard Sanders who lost family members in the Holocaust and lost, I'm using that lightly. I mean, they were murdered in the Holocaust who continues to stand up for justice and others. I'm thinking about my dear Benjamin, who in D.C., I was just with her in her presence, who puts her body on the line with some of her other co-conspirators in that Congress, challenging those members of Congress on a regular basis. You talked about the Frotilla. Christian Smalls is in D.C. right now,

putting it all out on the line and others like them. And we know that Christian Smalls, who was the only black man on that particular voyage of the fortilla, there have been several who was beaten by the IDF. So, yeah, they are people, good people. And we do forget, John. So I'm glad that you brought up Daniel Schultz and other people like him so that we don't forget, that there are tens of thousands, the millions of people who are standing. enough for what is just right and good.

And they're doing it in different ways. But people like Daniel, it's not a butt, and people like Daniel who are willing to risk jail time. That's a whole another level of sacrifice. And he is very representative of freedom fighters from various traditions who have come before him, come before you and me and some who are still walking the face of the earth.

So thank you for reminding us of this. With that, we are going to take our second, oh, no, we think we have time? Yeah, okay. We'll do one more story, actually. And it's kind of related. Let's actually contrast that person willing to be imprisoned for the values with the sort of people that we reward here in America, starting with this. Congressman, how do you sleep at night? I sleep great.

There are two million people being starved in Gaza. Elon Omar is not pro-America, and frankly, she endorses and supports Muslim. terror. We nuked the Japanese twice in order to get unconditional surrender. That needs to be the same here. There is something deeply, deeply wrong with this culture, and it needs to be defeated. It does. He does, actually. There is something deeply wrong with our culture, and I think it's perhaps best exemplified in the House by people like Florida Representative Randy Fine, who is an absolute trash person. And the issue, the reason, the reason that that we're covering this isn't to point out the various ways that he's trash. We will remind you

of it. He loves Palestinian children being starved to death. I think that should be enough, but we'll give you extra evidence if it's necessary. No, it's not that. It's that he has been in office for a number of months. And despite spending the entirety of that time, doing nothing productive, the only thing he's produced is bile. He's getting tons of donations for massive corporations that apparently want to reward him for advocating for the star of innocent children and babies. And so Sludge has put together a new report. They did great work in looking into his corporate donors. More than 40 corporate and trade packs have donated to his campaign committee. Again, he's only been in office for a little bit. It's not

like he's delivered massive legislation that they're supporting. His statements on Twitter and in the halls of Congress is all that he's done. And so we've got people like defense firms, like Boeing, General Dynamics, the Israeli Defense Company Elbit Systems, pretty clear why they're They're doing that. That's a contractor for the Iron Dome. Health insurance companies like Elevant, Santine, Cigna, are also pack donors, presumably hoping to Curry favor with fine due to a seat on the subcommittee on health, employment, labor, and pensions. You've got Comcast and CVS and T-Mobile. You know, like T-Mobile does those fun commercials. They spend money on those commercials. They also spend money on supporting Randy Fine, just something to think about there.

And so Sludge contacted every one of these corporate packs to see if his statements are align with their values or if they would reconsider future donations. None responded because why respond? They've already said everything they need to say in giving him the money. So anyway, we can give you some other examples of what he's done. So on May 2nd, he responded to images of starving Palestinian children with the hashtags, hashtag starve away and hashtag keep on starving. In December 2023, before his election, he called for halting humanitarian aid and food to the people of Gaza, writing on X, stop the trucks, let them eat rockets. There are plenty of those, hashtag bombs away. A few weeks later, he said Republicans needed to solve America's hashtag Muslim problem. I mean, that's,

what am I supposed to pretend that that's not him trying to flip the Nazi thing on its head? Like, that's, that's what he did. That's the thing that he's doing there. We need a solution to the problem of the millions of Muslims in America. In September 24, he celebrated the killing of 26-year-old Turkish-American activists, Eisenier-Ezgi by Israeli forces, posting one less Muslim terrorist and urging Israel to fire away. So when these activists are murdered, either by the IDF or by settlers, 99% of American media and politicians ignore it and never acknowledge the brutal murders, even if it's on film and there are witnesses and all that. They just ignore it. He decided to celebrate it because he sides more with murderers than activists fighting for peace. So look,

there's always people like this in America, Nina, and the Republican Party sure seems to draw a lot of them. But the fact that these massive corporations are like, we want more of this. We are going to keep you in office. There should be way more shame on those companies. It shouldn't. Thank Thank, Sludge, for doing this. It's called corporate responsibility. And that is an area where we, John, just we, and I mean the universal we, we might not be able to get Randy fine out of office right now, but we can with our dollars, use our dollars as our voice. And so a list of those corporations and having different organizations, justice-leaning organizations in this country, take that list, and we can boycott. these folks or as many of them as we can with our money and letting them know that supporting

people like Randy Fine is not fine. And when he made the comment about, you know, let them eat, what did you say, let them eat bombs or rockets? Rockets. Well, yeah, they have been. Yeah. And they're eating rockets provided by the United States of America with our tax dollars, which the overall majority of Americans do not want to have happened, especially at this stage, nobody is ignorant to the fact, John, of what has happened to the Palestinian people. And for him to celebrate, we are the only nation on the face of this earth thus far who have dropped an atomic bomb on other folks. And there's nothing to celebrate about that at all.

So something is wrong with these people. But Randy Fine is just the personification of what is wrong with war mongerers, whether they be in the United States of America or Israel or any other country, people who grovel and celebrate at the image of bombing other people. That, I mean, we should definitely form a coalition of people who check out these corporations and they need to be boycotted. They need to be called on the carpet. Their stakeholders or stockholders need to be called out as well.

Is this, like you said, is this, I'm glad to let's call them. Is this what you support? and they wouldn't answer because they're cowards. Yeah, and they don't have to answer. They're not going to. I would ask, you know, the voters for Randy Fine, like, how many of you think that you're like, you hold deep, deep religious values, deeply Christian? Why is this guy fastabating over the starving of kids?

Like, why? It isn't just that he believes it. He keeps tweeting it. Celebrates it. He celebrates. That's his brand is, I want babies to die. Why are you supporting that? Everyone who's voted for everyone who's who donated to him. Like we can identify 40 corporate donors easier than the voters, but like, why is this what you want?

And his statement, stop the trucks, let them eat rockets, there are plenty of those. So innocent Palestinians, which I know he doesn't think those exist because his brain has been utterly perverted by identity politics, they shouldn't get aid because Hamas has their rockets, which are just about the least effective weapon in the world right now. But regardless, okay, so because they have so many of those, they could just eat those. Why are we showering Israel with billions of dollars? They have rockets and they have food and they have medicine. They actually have all of those things.

They have their own defense industry in Israel. They have a massive and well-funded military. Why are we subsidizing them when they have all of those things? It doesn't bother him at all that billions of dollars that could be benefiting his constituents go to Israel, but it does bother him that a one year old in Palestine would get food or medicine because there's a terrorist miles away. It's a sick and perverse. Our country is plagued by broken men. I just remember there's a 19 year old in Israel who's not who's going to go to jail and say signing up. I have to remember there are good people to balance all this out.

Anyway, by the way, great work by sludge. This story is a reminder as if you need another. The fundamental The central problem that leads to all of the other problems in our society is that corporations and individuals are allowed to flood our politics with as much money as they want. The Supreme Court knew what they were doing when they did it with Citizens United, and that wasn't the only one, but that was one of the major recent ones. And until we turn that around, we're always going to be plagued by people like Randy Fine. That's right. And what would Jesus do?

He would not be doing this. He would be with the downtrodden. He would be with the people who are being overtaken by a system that is cruel and That's what Jesus would do. So these Christian folks need to be called out. John, these so-called Christians that are in the Congress too, they should be called out as well because they should check their colleague on this kind of stuff. But they won't do it because they're at the trough to the Congressional Black Caucus, the Hispanic Caucus, all these little caucuses, the Progressive Caucus, as far as I'm concerned, is not doing enough. But I am highly outraged and ashamed of the Congressional Black Caucus, particularly who even to this moment has not.

not put out a statement against what was happening and continues to happen. They are feckless and they are 100% going against the grain of why the Congressional Black Caucus holds a special position in that Congress as to why the Congressional Black Caucus was created in the first place. I'm not saying they should get all to blame, John, but I am particularly outraged by their silence. They bought and sold too, just like the rest of them. We're going to take a short break.

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Trump 28, Trump is going to be president 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that. So what about the 22nd Amendment? There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is. But there's a plan and President Trump will be the president in 28. Yes, Steve Bannon is declaring it's going to happen. Screw the Constitution, screw the law, screw America, whatever. We have to have this one guy in office. And he's gonna be president in 2028.

I agree, I think he's likely to be president in 2028 for like 19 days. And then we're gonna kick his ass out of the White House. That's how it worked the last time around. People got a taste of him for four years and they had no interest in having any more of it. They hated it so much, they voted for Joe Biden over it. So anyway, we'll see how that goes. Also, pretty rich to take a look at Donald Trump and how rapidly his body is decomposing in live view and assume that he's going to be around in a few more days. That also one thing that I think is missed in all this conversation about 2028, if you're a MAGA person and you hear Steve Bannon say that, you probably get excited, right? Like, hey, even more years of Trump. But his reasoning is that the job won't be done.

I have a point to make about that, but let's play one more video for you. President Trump will be the President of the United States, and the country needs him to be President of the United States. We have to finish what we started. And the way we finish it, do Trump, Trump is a vehicle, I know this will drive you guys crazy, but he's a vehicle of divine providence, he's an instrument. He's very imperfect. He's not churchy, not particularly religious, but he's an instrument of divine will. And you can tell this of how we've, how he's pulled this off. We need him for at least one more term, right? And he'll get that in 28.

It is a little bit rich to hear about Trump being an instrument of divine will from a guy whose face looks like he's been cursed by the Egyptian gods or something. But anyway, if you're Maga, again, you probably like that. But it is one thing to say, you know, when you're running for your second term, the elections in three months, let's finish the job. Do you get what he's telling you? In three years, we won't be done. No, Trump's not going to have done this thing. We're going to need four more years of him. He's telling you three years in advance that Donald Trump is not going to deliver in this term.

And he's already had, he's had five years at this point as president. And if you ain't delivered at this point, I don't know why you'd give him a third try. Also, not a big vote of confidence for the Republican bench. There's nobody else now, nor will there be anybody in three years that could possibly govern. And in fact, Donald Trump will leave our republic on such shaky ground that not even J.D. Vance could take over at that point, not even Don Jr. We're going to be so weak, so bad off that it has to still be Donald Trump, even gears into the future. Now, of course, Nina, you don't need to tell me or do you don't need me to tell you that the Constitution doesn't allow for this. I will just say, I'm glad that he keeps talking about it because one of the tricky, physically ways they would try to do this is have him run as like the VP to J.D. Vance, but I don't know, after four years of you guys saying, that's just a trick to get him in office. I don't know how, I don't think you're going to fool people necessarily. But what do you think,

Nina? Yeah, I mean, listen, out in the open, the difference between the fox and the wolf. So the wolf is staring us in our face and letting us know forecasting what they are going to attempt. And they're going to attempt to do it in 28. You know, these same rule of law folks that always preaching the gospel of the ruling law, rule of law. And you got Steve Bannon straight up saying the hell with the Constitution, the United States Constitution, and there's many, many ways to interpret the Constitution. I thought the judiciary, that that was their job to do that. You know, nothing is new here. It just reminds me of the notion of manifest destiny of the 19th century. You know, part of that was about the destiny of Americans to continue to move west, to continue

to take the land, you know, in this country from indigenous people, et cetera, et cetera. But this has a flavor of that. He is destined. He is an instrument of divine will. Well, who's divine will? And which deity are you worshipping that now tells you that this right here is okay? Yeah. So it matters.

If you would ask other folks, no, they would not say that President Donald J. Trump is an instrument of divine will for whom becomes the question. But John, this is wild, but what I do appreciate about them, they tellin us straight up. Yeah, exactly. No, you're 100% right. Yeah, I don't know, I didn't read like every page of the Bible, maybe at some point in the New Testament. Jesus is like, you know, I love it when you post videos pooping on your fellow Americans or whatever. You know, maybe maybe that's how it works. Or no, again, not like Steve Bannon, pretend posturing as a Christian means even less than like a Mike Johnson, a George Santos. Steve Bannon is a massive con man. He literally robbed his own followers, okay? The only, this is not about divine will. This is about billionaire will. This is about extracting as much wealth as possible, tearing down as much regulation as possible, lowering taxes as much as possible. Jesus ain't got nothing to do with this, okay? This is about the top point 1%

getting paid because all of them have a terminal case of addiction to money, okay? And they're willing to bring us all down with them as they pursue more of it. So anyway, look, bad news for Steve Bannon, well, assuming we have elections, I suppose. Donald Trump is wildly unpopular because people are paying attention to how stupid his policies are and how ineffective they've been in improving people's lives. It's why, as of right now, he's polling in terms of his people's support for his economic policies. It is the worst any president, has ever had at this point in their presidency. It is worse off than he has ever had in all of his presidency, either this term or the previous four years. So no, people are paying attention. You're

getting what you want. You got your low taxes, your deregulation. But people get that it's not helping them out. And the fact that prices are going up and their health care costs are about to explode and the government is still shut down. And all Donald Trump can talk about is magnificent ballroom is telling people everything they need to know. He doesn't. He doesn't care about them, he never did, he ain't gonna. Mr. Miller for that, so why don't we move to our final story? Homeland Security Advisor, Stephen Miller, Stephen, you're such a superstar, Stephen. They called Stephen the other day a very bad name and I said you should sue them, Stephen.

I think he will, I hope he does. Let me just say, Mr. President, that this country was going to die without you. That's the dumbest, is it the dumb, no, I can't just say that it's the dumbest thing I've heard. I pay attention to the news. So it's, it's dumb. I will say that. It's very, very dumb. And let's also be very, I'm going to say this just in case Donald Trump watches this. Stephen Miller doesn't believe it at all. Stephen Miller doesn't respect you at all. Stephen Miller is in this for Stephen Miller. He is an utter sociopath. You think he has any more care for you or empathy for you, Donald Trump, that he does for anybody else?

He's pursuing his own power. He's pursuing the quest he's had his entire life. Revenge against brown people. That's what this is all about. He doesn't care about you, you saved America. Inflation's higher today than it was at the end of last year. The number of different, the country is in utter chaos, not least of all in terms of homeland security. So I know that's what their little meeting was about. Bear in mind, troops are on the ground in multiple U.S. cities. Stephen Miller considers that to be saving America.

I think the vast majority of the American public disagrees. So anyway, that's what they're a meeting to talk about. So you have this prior executive order that Donald Trump had signed to set up this Homeland Security Task Force, basically trying to go into every state, metal in their affairs. You don't trust them to deal with their own problems. And end the presence of criminal cartels, foreign gangs, and blah, blah, blah, across America. So they're meeting to congratulate themselves on that. And so let's go to a little bit more of Miller on his theory that.

Donald Trump alone saved America? This country was going to die without you. This country was going to actually die without you. That's what we were facing in 2024. We've been invaded for four years. Our communities were sinking. Our public safety had gone to zero. Cartels are running entire communities.

Sex trafficking, child trafficking, labor trafficking was out of control. Overdoses were out of control. The cartels were claiming more and more territory. city services were buckling. This was the country on the verge of dying, and you alone saved it. And when you stepped forward originally in 2016, you started the movement to make America great again. And that means make America great again in every way. And that means safety and prosperity and peace and freedom from cartels and crime and gangs.

And your vision and your leadership in declaring war in the drug cartels is the single most successful public safety initiative in American history. I'm a little bit worried that that video might have sent a notification of Mike Johnson's phone. Stephen Miller would have you believe he's a big fan of Donald Trump. Oh, he believes all that BS about cartel zoning territory and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Look that, Nina, I think it's very embarrassing that Stephen Miller, like, to have the power that he has, has to do that. And again, to a man that he definitely does not respect. And bear in mind, Donald Trump was being very nice. nice to Stephen Miller in that little video. But behind the scenes, he also mocks Stephen

Miller as a complete weirdo. And I've never felt closer to Donald Trump than when he mocks how weird Stephen Miller is because he's definitely right. But as embarrassing as it is for Stephen Miller to do that, I think, and I know that Maga will never get this. They can't see it. Stephen Miller is doing that because he has read into Donald Trump that Donald Trump has to hear that. Donald Trump does all of these meetings to get a bunch of people of people to take turns telling him how great he is. And I think that that is one of the saddest things that I've ever heard in my life. If I ever headed up an organization or was elected to office and you saw me doing that with my staff, put me out of my misery, because that is

no way to live a life that is so utterly pathetic. This man is a literal billionaire, has been president twice, owns multiple corporations, and is still so empty inside after all of that that he needs these people to just compliment him for hours at a time. I just think that is that is so sad. And obviously Nina, I'm sure you're more concerned with the substance of how they're invading these cities and the terrible things they're doing in terms of the mass deportation and all that. But just the displays of obsequiousness, the North Koreanness of it all, is just utterly pathetic. What do you think?

I mean, it's idol worship. So for all of them Christians out there, I mean, they have definitely made this president a guy a god of sorts. And if you have to grovel to the president like that on a regular basis, I mean, you got a question whether or not that's the life for you. Obviously it is that proximity to power. But it is creepy, John. I mean, it was hard for me to listen to this again.

It's painful. And he talks about the cartels and the children and the pedophiles and the rate. I don't know if you use the word pedophile, but release the Epstein files. Yep. Right? He should be number one on the list or in the top 10 within the Trump administration saying release the Epstein files if you care so much about this. This is really sick. It is absolutely sick. And you know, in psychology 101, you learn about the id and the ego. And it's very clear that our president, to a point that you were making, John, has not advanced beyond the me, me, me, me, me, me. I mean, those of you who watched Mr. Smith when he went after Neil, and he said, you know, me, me, me, me, and that's the type of president that we have.

Yeah. Yeah. And the issue is that this is not just, you know, like a psychological failing of the president. It matters because these people surround him. They get in that position by sucking up to him, by licking his boots. And then once they're in those positions, they get to do what they want to do. Violate the law, violate people's constitutional rights, and everywhere and always personally enrich themselves at the expense of the taxpayers. And he doesn't care if they do any of this, so they break the law, as long as they say nice things to him. It is so pathetic, and it's pathetic and it matters. Anyway, that is unfortunately all the time we have for the show. But Nina, it is always a pleasure to have you here. I know that you're incredibly busy and I appreciate you joining us, especially when you're

traveling. Thank you. Pleasure was all mine. Love you guys, Tiwit. Thank you. Coming up on the other side of this break, you're going to have Yaz taking over joined by Woz. It should be a really fun hour. Again, the bonus episode is going to be for members only later on after this next hour. So just bear that in mind. We're going to take a short break. There'll be more after this. I don't know. Oh, I'm going to be.