The Young Turks - Judge Obliterates Trump

Episode Date: October 1, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/TYT and use code TYT and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Judge tears into Trump for silencing pro-Palestinian activists. Ana challeng...es an IDF defender in a spicy CNN debate. Netanyahu admits the new peace plan is all a ruse. Megyn Kelly comes under fire for refusing to condemn Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. Young Americans are abandoning their support for Israel. Pete Hegseth gives a bizarre speech about wokeness. The Trump administration ramps up weapons manufacturing and teases long-range weapons for Ukraine. Hosts: Ana Kasparian & Cenk Uygur Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Uger, Anna Kusairn with you guys. I'm in L.A. at Annas in New York. That's because she's going on CNN tonight at 10 o'clock on Abby Phillips show. And it's going to be a dozy.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Can I tell him who's on? Yeah. Jamie Harrison, former head of the DNC, former Jank Uger nemesis. Is that's not what he's known for. You're crazy. Hakeem Jeffries will be interviewed by Abby Phillip at the top of the show. And then we are going to react to that interview immediately after it's over. So that's another thing you guys can look forward to.
Starting point is 00:01:16 I'm sure he's going to bring the charisma. I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to what Apex Chaguerresa say. Okay, so that's tonight 10 o'clock. Don't miss it. Anna's going to be on there. So it's going to be very fascinating. Raid Rock for now already sent in 10 gifted memberships on YouTube because he's an American hero. Now, the show we've got for you guys is chock full of a really important news. So a federal judge strikes down Trump's actions and arresting Israel's critics. Super important.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And then we, do we have a deal on peace in Gaza? Is the deal real? And what is going to happen if the deal is accepted or not accepted? We now, a day after the deal was announced, we have the answers. We have the answers. So we will get to that in a little bit. So Casper, take it away. Well, I actually want to begin with that federal judge just tearing Donald Trump apart in this lengthy opinion.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Let's get right to it. A Reagan appointed federal judge has absolutely ripped President Donald Trump and the Trump administration to shreds after their crackdown on. pro-Palestinian protesters on college campuses. Now, this is, again, a Reagan-appointed judge, meaning a previous Republican president appointed this individual, and this judge did not mince words. So buckle up. Now, the case centers on efforts by the State Department and the Department of Homeland Security to deport pro-Palestinian non-citizens who have protested against the genocide currently taking place in the Gaza Strip. These include individuals like Mahmoud Khalil and Rumiesa Ozturk, who of course was the Ph.D. student
Starting point is 00:03:01 at Tufts, who just happened to co-write a article in the student paper that I guess pro-Israel individuals didn't like. And so they called on the Trump administration to target her. And soon after that, you have these masked DHS officials just taking her off the streets, arresting her. Now, in the scathing 161-page decision, federal judge William G. Young ruled that the administration has indeed unlawfully chilled the protected political speech of university professors and of students. So let me give you the details on what he had to say. a young lambasted Trump and his administration for attacking free speech under the cover of an unconstitutionally broad definition of anti-Semitism used in efforts to deport non-citizen activists. And in the case of Ozturk and of Mahmoud Khalil, we're talking about individuals who are here
Starting point is 00:04:01 as students, either with a green card or student visa. Now, he argued, meaning the judge argued, that Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, and Christy Noem, head of DHS and their subordinates acted in concert to misuse the sweeping powers of their respective offices to target non-citizen pro-Palestinians for deportation primarily on account of their First Amendment protected political speech. And he also hammered on the fact that non-citizens do, guys, please remember this. This is important. There's so many Americans who are just unaware of it. If you are in the United States, even if you are not a citizen. Let's say you have a visa or a green card. You are still protected by the same
Starting point is 00:04:45 constitutional rights, including the right to free speech. So he said that the administration's goal, well, he ruled that the First Amendment could not draw on the Trump administration's invidious distinction between citizens and non-citizens, which the judge said is not to be found in our history or jurisprudence, a word that is difficult to say, but I think I've nailed it there. Now, a few other things I want to just quickly mention before I go to you, Jank. Now, he said that the administration's goal was to silence pro-Palestinian protesters by terrorizing them. He writes that they did so in order to strike fear into similarly situated non-citizen pro-Palestinian individuals, proactively and effectively curbing lawful,
Starting point is 00:05:29 pro-Palestinian speech, and intentionally denying such individuals, including the plaintiffs here, the freedom of speech that is their right. And what's especially unusual about Young's ruling is the fact that he dedicated more than a dozen pages to specifically addressing President Donald Trump's disrespect for the United States Constitution. It's incredible. Trump's conduct, the judge wrote, violated the sacred oath of a president to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution of the United States, and the actions of his
Starting point is 00:06:02 administration represented a full-throated assault. on the First Amendment. I fear President Trump believes the American people are so divided that today they will not stand up, fight for, and defend our most precious constitutional values so long as they are lulled into thinking their own personal interests are not affected. Is he correct? And you know, that's a question that I've been thinking about quite a bit, certainly well before this ruling jank. Are the partisan divides in this country so devastating? Are we so divided? that as long as your preferred party is violating the constitutional rights of your political opponents, you're just going to let it slide. And if you do let it slide, somewhere down the line,
Starting point is 00:06:48 there will be consequences for you as well. So just something to think about. Yeah, literally what I wrote on social media today. So the most important issue here has nothing to do with Israel. It has to do with the First Amendment. So we're going to come back to that. First, why were these guys arrested? There's a lot of misinformation out there. A lot of people think, Well, if they did violence, I know, yes. If they did violence, they would have been arrested for assault. They were not arrested for assault. They did not do any violence, nor is violence even charged.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Like even the Trump administration is not saying that they did violence. Literally no one is saying they did violence. They're saying that they said things that were anti-Semitic. Okay, let's pause there. Saying things that are anti-Semitic is perfectly legal in America. It might not be good, it's terrible, I don't want you to say those things that are anti-Semitic. Now in this case, did they say things that are anti-Semitic? We'll get to that in a second. But even if they did, like there are folks online who say things
Starting point is 00:07:43 that are anti-Semitic all time, anti-Muslim? Are you kidding me? Right? Millions of comments, anti-Christian, anti-American. All of that is legal in America. Why? Because of our First Amendment. It's the most precious right we have, the freedom of speech. And the freedom of speech does not protect popular speech. That's easy, you don't need to protect it. It protects unpopular speech. That's, it protects all speech. But the point is to protect dissent, unpopular speech, unpopular opinions, et cetera, because we don't know who's right. And the more we talk and the more we have freedom, we sort that up. So this is a Reagan appointed judge, obviously comes from the right, right?
Starting point is 00:08:18 Now he criticizes Trump a lot. If you catch feelings over that, there's not that good do to help you, brother. Okay, I know people caught feelings about our Biden criticism. But what I've read of what the judge wrote about Trump, it was aggressive but correct. He's not criticizing him because he's Trump. He's criticizing specifically for things that are honestly un-American, taking away First Amendment rights to please a foreign government. I don't care of Biden or Trump does that.
Starting point is 00:08:44 That's nuts, right? And he talks about the mass. Now, look, it's not pertinent to this case, I don't think, okay? But it is pertinent to the environment of oppression that is being set up. You're not allowed to say this about Israel. You're not allowed to say about it. By the way, we're now surveilling you. And for all the protesters, we're getting scans of your faces.
Starting point is 00:09:04 And we don't care if you're on the left or the right. We don't care if you're Jewish or Muslim or Christian, it doesn't matter. We're surveilling all of you. And if you step an inch outside the line and criticize this or that's it, you're arrested. One of them was, wrote an op-ed. So now to Anna's point and the critical point in this case, if you don't know, there's 200 years of Supreme Court jurisprudence on this issue, saying that they've ruled again and again and again, that First Amendment rights are for everyone in America, citizen or not citizen.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Now you could say, hey, you know what, I don't like that. I don't like that the Constitution makes it available to non-citizen. Okay, that's fine, but take it up with the Constitution. It does. So now non-citizens have other things that they don't have a right to. For example, they don't have a right to vote. So that's unacceptable. But do they have a right to the First Amendment?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Yes, the Constitution says they do. And so, guys, this is maybe the most critical part. If you take away their rights, you take away all rights. don't take away any rights to please a foreign government. So now they say, well, this isn't about a foreign government. They have offended Jewish people in America. Please. First of all, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:10:16 They had said nothing about Jews, literally nothing. They said Israel should be boycotted because that government is committing a genocide, killed 20,000 kids, et cetera, et cetera, right? So factually, totally incorrect to say that they said something anti-Semitic. And when you challenge folks on it, they're like, they can't find anything that any of these defendants have said about Jewish people. All they say is, well, they had the temerity to criticize beloved Israel. Who cares? Who cares? We're allowed to criticize foreign governments.
Starting point is 00:10:47 We're allowed to criticize our own government. So if you take away their rights, you take away our rights. And now we're serving a different government for no goddamn reason. So this decision is 100% correct, 100% needed. Thank God, and Anna's absolutely right. Be careful what you wish for. If you say, well, because Trump's doing it and I like Trump, or, you know, because Israel, we're doing it on behalf of Israel and I think Israel should be first and second and third
Starting point is 00:11:12 and fourth and eighth, and I love Israel. So if you cross them, that's it, take away rights. Well, you lost your rights. Then what's going to happen when somebody else gets into office, whether they're a Democrat or maybe someone who hates Israel? And goes, now if you say positive things about Israel, that's it, you're under arrest. And if you, oh my God, it's good camps, they're putting us in camps. That's what you're doing right now.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Just if you criticize Israel. So this is, look, Anna, when this case started, I think that a lot of Trump voters were, you know, like, well, Trump's doing it. So this feels a little weird, but I don't know all the facts. And they probably did violence, et cetera. Now when this ruling comes in, the Trump base is way more divided. And a lot of them have realized, oh. They're trying to take away, they're trying to put an asterisk on the First Amendment that you're allowed to say anything you want unless it's about Israel.
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Starting point is 00:14:13 And so I'm glad that he didn't, I mean, I know that he had thoughts about calling for martial law to end the protest, but he didn't in the end. He didn't do that. And the protests went on. But when you have protests in regard to the conduct and behavior of a foreign country, well, it's interesting how rapidly the Trump administration tried to shut that down. And so it's just something to keep in mind because I think one of the most important, you know, protections we have here in the borders of the United States is the ability to freely express how we feel about the conduct of our own government and the conduct of a foreign government.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And just to kind of bolster the point that the nefarious forces behind encouraging our government to violate the free speech rights of these students was, in fact, Israel. You know, this whole peace deal negotiation that we've been hearing about between Trump and Netanyahu has called for Arab leadership and governance in the Gaza Strip, which would be great. Some have floated the idea of a reformed Palestinian authority, essentially governing the Gaza Strip. Netanyahu responded to that, jank, by giving a speech and saying that the reforms must absolutely include the PA no longer criticizing Israel. I mean, guys, think about it, right? Jesus Christ. Now it should be illegal in some form or shape or for the Palestinians to criticize their own occupation. Before it was like, no, you have no right to self-defense.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Only Israel has a right to self-defense. And the right to self-defense includes invading other countries and taking their land. Somehow that's self-defense, right? But the Palestinians have no right to self-defense. You pick up even a rock, we will murder you. On the spot, we don't care if you're 16 years old, four years old, we don't care, that's it.
Starting point is 00:16:11 No right to self-defense at all. Now you don't even have a right to criticize. right to criticize. That's it. You have to bow your head to your overlords. I just wanted to really drive home the point that the Israeli government is so utterly thin-skinned and sensitive to any criticism. I mean, they go around smearing people as anti-Semites. They've got their idea of soldiers, threatening people, sending photos of the weapons, implying that they're going to get killed for criticizing a foreign government. It's crazy. But that's what I think is like really the motivating factor behind what the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:16:44 had been doing to these protesters and to these students. So we got to move on. I want to get to our next story. So let's get right into it. For months, Trump has grown exacerbated at Netanyahu's resistance to ending the war and his expanding military operations in the Middle East. One confident, once confident his personal relationship with Netanyahu could push him toward a resolution, Trump has wondered out loud in recent months whether he's being played
Starting point is 00:17:10 by a man he described as a friend. And it seemed very clear that Netanyahu was very interested in the alternative ending to the story, which is not a peace deal, but rather an ongoing march of the Israeli military into Gaza. Is Trump being played? I mean, they may very well come to having to completely destroy and eliminate Hamas. It's been two years. Like how are they going to root out Hamas? Well, things got a little heated in that segment of Abby Phillips' show on CNN yesterday.
Starting point is 00:17:40 and we'll get back to just how heated it got because there has been deep skepticism about the Trump ceasefire deal that would allegedly end the genocide that's currently being carried out by Israel in Gaza, which is why Pete Seat, the gentleman you saw in that video, believes that Netanyahu might ultimately need to finish the job by rooting out Hamas. Again, we'll get back to that exchange in just a minute. But before we do, it really is worth getting into some of the newer reporting on the peace deal, which, to be honest with you, already appears poised to fail. And that would be a tragedy for every party involved. Of course, the Palestinian people would suffer the most. And so would the family members of the hostages who remain held captive in the Gaza Strip. So before I get to
Starting point is 00:18:31 all the different ways in which it appears the Netanyahu regime looks to sabotage this peace deal. Jank, do you want to say a sentence? Maybe too. Yep. So I thought you made a brilliant point, which we're going to get to in a sec, about how do we confirm that Hamas has turned themselves in, turn their guns in? No one can answer that question, because it's supposed to be a purposely unanswerable question. But I also want to talk about, and this is really important, is the peace deal real? And is Israel going to abide by it? So we now know, some of those answers. So Anna, I'm back to you. Okay, so look, the plan would require Israel to remove all IDF troops from the Gaza Strip.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And I thought that point in the deal was crazy because there has never been an indication that the Israeli government would ever withdraw from Gaza. They intend to remain there. You know, first they say as a security measure, but then you see all of the advertisements for new settlements in the Gaza Strip. You know, they're talking. about it at conferences all across the globe. But while Netanyahu publicly claimed that he accepted this deal, he's saying something entirely different on social media posts where he speaks in Hebrew. So according to the Washington Post, if the deal were signed, Hamas would release all Israeli hostages while the Israeli defense forces would remain in most of Gaza. Netanyahu
Starting point is 00:20:00 stressed Monday. Those who had earlier urged him to withdraw the military, and thus allow Hamas to rebuild were dead wrong, he said. No way. That's not happening. Okay, to be clear, the deal that Trump got Netanyahu to agree to verbally at least yesterday does not say that Hamas would remain in charge or would remain as the body that's governing Gaza. So like this idea that it's all about withdrawing troops and allowing Hamas to continue governing Gaza. Like that, that's not a thing. That's not part of the deal. But the point is that Netanyahu has no intention of withdrawing IDF troops. He also said that he would not agree to a Palestinian state under any circumstance, which doesn't surprise me. He's been saying this for literally decades.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Why would he change his mind now? And that was also a huge part of this deal, albeit a vague portion of the deal. Trump's proposal calls for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood. Again, well, Netanyahu agreed to this verbally yesterday in a joint press conference. Later, he went on to say, again, in Hebrew, in a social media post, there's no way, not going to do that. Now, there's more. So already we have Israel refusing to the terms of Trump ceasefire deal, but they intend to set Hamas up to be the problem. What do I mean by that? Well, Benjamin Netanyahu said the following. President Trump added that if Hamas refuses, he will give Israel full backing to complete the military operation and eliminate them.
Starting point is 00:21:36 So the way that I see this, Jank, and you've got to keep it 100 with me, come on. The way that I see this, whether Trump is part of this plot or not, Netanyahu sees this as a way of providing himself an excuse to carry on with the atrocities and the mass slaughter that the Israeli government and the IDF have been carrying out in the Gaza strip for nearly two years. All he's going to do is point to Hamas and say, look, there's record of me accepting the ceasefire deal and Hamas did it. And so as a result, we're going to have to finish the job. And we know what finished the job really means. It's not really about going after Hamas. It's about wiping Palestinians and their identity off of the Gaza strip entirely.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah. So is the, there's two questions here. Is the peace deal real? And we're asking you guys, is that on tyt.com and elsewhere. So hope that you guys can vote on that. Curious what you think. Most of you think no. Okay, I'm gonna surprise you guys by saying, I think the peace deal is real. I think that Trump is the one that offered it,
Starting point is 00:22:45 not Netanyahu. Well, not, I think, we know that, right? That's not the first time though. That's not the first time. Trump has offered peace deals like multiple times and every single time Israel rejects it. That's right. But this is the first part of the question, is the deal real, right? And so if Israel had offered it and it had a bunch of caveats meant like and catch 22s and it was a purposely unsolvable riddle, we'd analyze it and we'd tell you that, right?
Starting point is 00:23:30 Right? No, this is a, in my opinion, it's a real deal. Trump offered it. That doesn't mean, oh, then okay, it must be great. No, the critical part is the Arab and Muslim countries, including ones that are not necessarily beholden to Israel like Qatar and Turkey, have signed on and say, yes, we want this, right? And a lot of other Palestinian leaders said yes. Okay. Now, that's not, to me, that's not the primary issue. The primary issue is the one that Anna's alluding to, will Israel actually abide by it? And what does it mean to abide by the deal? So I think what happened was Trump wanted to get this done badly. He's got the Nobel Prize in his head. Plus, most importantly, he sees, and there's quotes of him saying this very, very
Starting point is 00:24:12 clearly, that his base is slipping away from Israel and from him for supporting Israel. So he wants to just get this out done with already. And how do you get a deal? Everybody knows how you get a deal. Israel withdraws, Hamas surrenders, whatever that means, we'll come back to that. And but Hamas does not run Gaza. Some sort of Arab coalition comes and runs Gaza and we go on a roadmap to a Tuesday solution. This is, we've known this forever for decades. That's the answer. So that's what the Arabs offer. That's what America offers. So the Muslim world in America are aligned on that, right? So now Israel gets offered this and then Yahu has a decision to make. He's at the White House. Trump says, that's it. We're doing this. And you're either
Starting point is 00:24:54 going to say no to me in front of the whole world. And then you're going to be in a lot of trouble. to say yes, okay? So Nanjahu being a smart guy says yes. And so why does he say yes? Yes, because he thinks I say yes in English tomorrow in Hebrew, I say no. Right, I say yes to America so I could come back and do Hasbra and propaganda here and go, oh my God, I wanted to peace. But those savage Palestinians, let's kill them all. Let's kill them all. They didn't want, we offered peace. This is the oldest Israeli trick in the world. Like they come in, they go, give you the worst offer in the world. Like we keep 75% of your land, I'm exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And then, you know, we get to humiliate you. You never get to really have a state. Well, we offered peace. We offered peace, right? So, so in this case, it's a real offer. And they go, okay, well, we'll just undermine it. So the first way that they undermined it is Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkoff come in. Netanyahu pressures them. And they pressure Trump.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And they say, okay, well, it was supposed to be a full withdrawal. But, okay, Israel doesn't want to withdraw. Well, that's the whole point of the peace deal. So they're gonna have a security permitor. But today Netanyahu in Hebrew says not good enough. No, not a security permit. We're just not gonna withdraw. So they're gonna give us the hostages in 72 hours.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And by the way, the 72 hours, if they hold to it, starts when Israel accepts, which theoretically was yesterday. So the clock is ticking. So they're gonna go, give us a host, give you it, and then you know what they're gonna do? And then I was gonna say, what do you mean? I said it in right afterwards that I was never gonna leave. You heard no way, we're never going to leave Gaza. So this is not a peace deal.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It's just a way of saying, give us the hostages back and we're gonna keep killing you. And so- That's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. In fact, Gail Talshir, who is a political scientist over at the Hebrew, Hebrew University in Jerusalem, said the following. There's a lot of gray area in the deal, and this is how Netanyahu wanted it. He can tell the right wing, he will never fully withdraw, and he can show Hamas. is the one saying no, and he can continue the war. So I mean, I just think it's, it's as clear as day. And for anyone who was skeptical about this so-called peace deal from the moment news dropped about it,
Starting point is 00:27:11 congratulations, you live in reality. Now, whether or not Trump is sincere about getting a peace deal done, I don't know and I don't care. Because the common denominator in terms of the failure of these peace deals, of these ceasefire deals, has been Israel. So in my view, if any U.S. official, including the president of the United States, is serious about getting the Israelis to agree to a real peace deal, they would leverage American weapons. But Trump isn't willing to do that, is he? So as long as Trump isn't willing to do that, I don't trust that he's serious about signing a peace deal. Final thing that we'll end with here is the back and forth. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, you say it and then I'll come back and finish it.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I was just going to go to that video, the CNN video. So it was going to kind of change the topic a little bit. Oh, okay. Okay, let's watch. Yeah, let's watch it. It's been two years. Like, how are they gonna root out Hamas? Like, what, they are literally multiplying extremists right now.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You have Donald Trump, the president. Your entire family members, that leads to more extremism. I know you're anti-Israel. I get it. Okay, you know what? I'm anti mass slaughter, and that's mass slaughter has been going on for two. has been going on for two years straight in Gaza and the West Bank and the West Bank. They were watching a concert. How many countries has Israel bombed over the last two years? Because it's not just Gaza. Come on. It's not just Gaza.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It's not just Gaza. Sixty-five thousand people slaughtered in Palestine and that doesn't matter. That doesn't matter at all. What happened on October 7 was an atrocity and I've spoken out against it. What I think is so interesting is that there's no concern at all for the lives of the Palestinians who have been lost in Gaza at all. Pete, that's why you want to get rid of Hamas because they are destroying those laws. What does that mean? Do you think they're rooting out Hamas right now? They've leveled the entirety of the Gaza Strip. They've leveled it. They've leveled it. The tallest residential buildings in Gaza, gone. We have to go, but Anna's question is super important.
Starting point is 00:29:09 It is super important. Anyone who comes at me with, oh, they're just trying to root on Hamas, when the entirety of the Gaza Strip has been leveled, hospitals, mosques, universities, schools, refugee camps, residential buildings, really? This is about Hamas? Or is it about literally demolishing everything that stood in Gaza in order to clear the way for Israeli settlers to come in and settle that land? Come on, I just, I can't stand the gas lighting. When people from the Israeli government say things out loud on a daily basis, I listen and I believe what they say. Yeah, that's it. And believe what they say in Israel, not in America.
Starting point is 00:29:52 In Israel, in Israel, yes. When they go to their base and they're like, we're playing the Americans, a bunch of suckers. We're not going to leave, no way are we going to leave. The deal says that they're going to leave. And then Yahoo turns around and goes, no, no, I'm lying to the Americans. They're a bunch of idiots, you could lie. It doesn't matter, I could lie 24 seven, and then I'll get everybody in corporate media to smear anyone who says I'm lying and call them anti-Semites, ruin their careers, that way we're back in charge.
Starting point is 00:30:19 So we just smear everyone in America that opposes us, and by the way, we get to arrest them these days, although now there's a ruling against that. Now, okay, Anna has said that point about, wait, how do we confirm that Hamas has surrendered, right? And she's the only one I have heard on cable news ever asked that question. So let's just explore that a tiny bit more. So they say, all right, all of Hamas has to surrender and turn in their weapons, and then we're going to take them out of the country and move them somewhere else. How do we know what's all of Hamas? What if 20 people come out or 200 or 2,000? How do we know that's all of them?
Starting point is 00:30:56 What if they bring in one gun or two guns? How do you know that's all the guns? How do we ever know it's good enough? Okay, now you guys want to guess if Israel's ever going to say it's good enough? If 20,000 Hamas guys all came out and they've laid down seven different weapons and said, that's it, you can kill us. And I know you're going to move us to another country. and then you're going to bomb that country.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Like, we don't know. Okay, fine, we allow you to murder us. We're going to leave and here's our weapons. You know what Israel's going to say? Oh, no, we think there's 40,000 Hamas fighters and we got to only kill 20,000 of them. So no, no, no, no, no, we think there's 60,000. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is purposely impossible because they do not want to get to peace other than a piece of land.
Starting point is 00:31:43 That is what they're looking for. That's why Smote Rich today was like, what the hell, man? We should have taken Gaza quicker. Now we have international pressure. We should have just slaughtered them and taken Gaza for ourselves already. We're moving too slow in this genocide. So that's the kind of monsters the current government of Israel is. So obviously totally undoable.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Last thing that's really important is, and again, I'm going to surprise you here. I think Hamas should accept it. Okay. So why? So from my perspective, well, I want to, hostages back anyway. I don't want Hamas to run Gaza. And most importantly, though, it takes away Israel's excuse. Right now, they say, no, we get to kill 80 people a day, 100 people a day, 40 kids a day, whatever the number is. We get to slaughter, slaughter,
Starting point is 00:32:33 slaughter because of 20 people. 20 hostages equals 20,000 kids, 65,000. We can endlessly slaughter as long as you have 20 hostages. Get the hostages back. Give him back and go, hey, we got a deal and they said they were going to get, leave Israel. It's in the deal, it says. I'm sorry, they were going to leave Gaza, right? Okay, so we all know what's going to happen. Israel's not going to leave Gaza. And then you think, oh, well, they gave up the hostages.
Starting point is 00:32:59 By the way, they're getting a bunch of prisoners back and hostages back, right? So theoretically. So you get those guys back. I don't really care about them. I mean, I care about the innocent Palestinians that were taken by the Israelis. And so at that point, you expose Israel for who they are. They're not gonna leave, they're never, ever going to leave. As long as this current fascist right wing government of Israel is in place,
Starting point is 00:33:23 they have said a million times, we want to annihilate the Palestinians and take Gaza as part of greater Israel. So there is no world in which Netanyahu and this government leaves. So call their bluff and then have the world unite with no excuse left at all for the sick terrorist government of Israel, so we can all come together and say, enough, they gave the hostages back. It's two years since then, it's obvious that you are the colonial, imperial army here that is totally wrong and immoral and sick, and for God's sake, let the Palestinians go.
Starting point is 00:34:04 expose them for who they are. I hope did they take the deal and turn in whatever the hell they got and we move forward. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about the pressure conservatives like Megan Kelly are facing for refusing to denounce and cut ties with critics of Israel on the right. We'll be right back. All right, back on TOT, Jenkin, Anna, and Froyo. Thank you for hitting that join button. We love you for it. Casper.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Well, the pressure is on for some prominent conservatives in right-wing media to essentially sever ties with other conservatives who, in the eyes of Israel supporters, are just not adequately pro-Israel enough. The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly, are pushing people like you and me away. I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-Semite. I am learning biblical Hebrew and writing a book on the Shabbat. I honor the Shabbat, literally the Jewish Sabbath. It is dozens of texts.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Yes. Then we start to say, hold the boat here. And to be fair, some of my really good Jewish friends are like, that's not all of us. it's all, but these are leaders too, though, right? These are these are stakeholders, right? Well, back in August, Megan Kelly spoke to Charlie Kirk about some of the extreme pressure that they both were facing in order to agree with anything and everything that the Israeli government demanded of them.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And the topic actually came back again yesterday with Megan Kelly essentially referencing their exchange on social media. But all that did was lead to a fresh. round of backlash toward Kelly, including from a group of vocal critics who absolutely demanded that she disavow Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson and essentially sever ties with them. And I have to say, whatever you might think about all the different figures involved in the story, I am going to give Megan Kelly major props for her reaction, her response. So we'll get to them in a second, but first, a bit of context.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So the right wing has been debating this letter that Charlie Kirk sent to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in May of this year. Now, Netanyahu had referenced that letter, or at least one part of that letter in interviews that he did shortly after Charlie Kirk was violently and viciously assassinated. And he also claimed that Charlie Kirk was, you know, a huge supporter, highly supportive of Israel. Others like Owens and Carlson, though, disputed that narrative. Okay, so look, I'll give you guys a little bit of background. I don't think that I'm disclosing anything that's not allowed. But if you guys can remember, I was on Tucker Carlson's show at one point this year. And I got a text message from Tucker Carlson shortly after it aired.
Starting point is 00:37:18 And he told me that Charlie Kirk loved it. He thought it was an excellent conversation. And Charlie would like you to go on his show to talk about that. these issues. And so it was basically Tucker's way of letting me know that Charlie Kirk liked what I had to say about Israel and wanted to discuss it further on his podcast. Now, obviously, I hadn't gone on Charlie Kirk's podcast before he was assassinated, but I do think that he had criticisms of what Israel is carrying out in Gaza. He had been on the record. It was very vocal against invading Iran for regime change war. Now, the full letter has come out, and I've read it. And to be
Starting point is 00:37:55 honest with you, that letter does not make it appear as though Charlie Kirk hated Netanyahu. But there had been other criticisms that he had either uttered himself, not as strongly in terms of criticism. But you know, he had slowly but surely started criticizing some of the conduct of the Israeli government. That's not really shocking or surprising if you've been paying attention to this story. Now, in that letter for the most part, Kirk shied away from any strong criticism of Israel. Instead, he advised Netanyahu and his government. to essentially work on social media outreach in order to stop young conservative Americans from turning against Israel. And so yesterday, Kelly posted about her conversation with Kirk writing,
Starting point is 00:38:38 The Charlie Kirk Letter to Beebe is interesting for obvious reasons. But if you want to hear Charlie in his own words speaking to a friend regarding his feelings on Israel and the pressure on him, it's all here on August 6th. No filter needed. Just listen to him. And he was very upset in that conversation because he felt that the criticism that he had leveled against the Israeli government had led to smears against him, allegations that he's anti-Semitic, you get the picture. But rather than address the substance of Megan Kelly's post, she was told by multiple people that she has to absolutely wash her hands of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson. So here's one of the responses, Florida Dad wrote on X. If you can't separate yourself from Candace Owens, many of us are going to separate ourselves from you. We do not have to align with everyone that claims to be of the right when their motives and history are as shady as hers.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And Kelly actually responded to that post in particular saying, look at this. No, I have no obligation to separate myself from anyone. I run my own media company and my own show. That show is where I express my own opinion. and I will decide what, I will decide what, what not to opine on. If you need me to condemn Candace or Tucker for their opinions in order to listen to me, then I may not be for you. He's a close friend and she is under enough pressure without gratuitous shots for me. My fight is with the left, not these two. I don't like that very last part.
Starting point is 00:40:13 I mean, at the end of the day, we're all American. So let's have a discussion about what suits Americans as opposed to, what's the best for Israel and Israel supporters. But nonetheless, overall, I really appreciated that message. Shea caught some heat from others as a result of that response. I'll go to that in a minute, but Jank, I wanted to get your thoughts first. Yeah, I got a lot of thoughts, but I'm also curious about the audience's thoughts here, because we've got an interesting live audience that's mixed politics.
Starting point is 00:40:42 So we're doing something on the live chat and I like it when you guys are part of the show. Will Megan Kelly gain or lose support because of this? Okay, and I'm curious what you guys think of that. I think she's, if she sticks with it, and there's an interesting update here about a rumor regarding Megan Kelly that I'm going to get to in a second. But if she sticks with the stance, I think she'll gain support. In fact, to that point, Anna, I think that the Florida dad guy and all those things, other than a couple of folks who are actual influencers that we know their names and and they,
Starting point is 00:41:17 you know, stand with Israel, et cetera, I think all the rest of them, I don't think they're real right wingers. I mean, they might be right wingers who are pro-Israel, but they're mainly Israel firsters, right? So the Israel first crowd does this hilarious thing where they're like, well, everyone on the right loves Israel. And so if you're criticizing Israel or you're not condemning Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens for criticizing Israel, then you know what? All of the right wing is going to leave you. All right. Well, let's see how that turns out.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Our audience is guessing that 71, 72% of you, that they're not going to leave, that she's going to gain support for not criticizing Tucker and Candace, et cetera, right? And that's exactly what Netanyahu is in a panic over. He's like, oh, we're losing them, right? So there was a rumor today, and which she vehemently denies, and I hope that she's telling the truth, And it's her denial made me believe that she is telling the truth, that CBS was going to offer her a large contract.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Now, remember, CBS bought by pro-Israel zealots, and they also bought free press and free, and they said, basically they said in the New York Post that they're overpaying for free press because they're pro-Israel, right? So now, if they go around and go, hey, you know what, we know how to stem the tide. We'll grab Megan Kelly and a couple other big right wingers because we really need to hold the wall on the right wing and we'll just bribe them. We'll give them 20 million, 40 million a year and it seems like a normal contract. They used to have those kind of giant contracts in TV back in the day when TV made a lot of money. Nobody'll notice. But that way we'll say, hey, you know what? Oh, we are not telling you to be pro Israel, we are just saying we are going to give you a lot of money, right?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Just like we did with free press. But Megan Kelly says, no, no, no, that rumor's nonsense. I didn't go to CBS, they didn't make an offer, et cetera. But I am a little worried that that's the next strategy. But for, but there is one strategy they're getting massively wrong, Anna. And this whole thing of like that they've done to the left for the entirety of our lives. Like if you criticize Israel at anti-Semite, cancel them, fire them, right? And then later arrest report, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Now when you do it to the right, you're doing it to the wrong ombrace. Guys who've been called racist and this and sexist and everything. every other word a thousand times over. That stuff bounces off of them. In fact, it makes them hate you. So Israel, please do us a favor and keep calling Megan Kelly and Tucker and everyone else anti-Semites. Call all the right wing influencers anti-Semites because then the country will be in favor
Starting point is 00:43:55 of the palest, like 90% in favor of the Palestinians within a couple of months. And that's partly what's spreading this like wildfire. They don't realize that they're adding fuel to the fire, they're like, oh no, all of you right wingers. You're all terrible people. You hate Jews. You are full of hate. We should cancel you, right? Good luck with that strategy. I think that's a terrible strategy. I probably shouldn't say anything. Oh, no, Israel, please do not do that. I know, it's just so short-sighted. And I think part of the problem for Israelis who carry out that tactic is it worked for so long because it's always been the left side of the political aisle that's been critical of Israel's conduct
Starting point is 00:44:40 and treatment of the Palestinian people. Now you have a growing number of right-wing voices who are willing to speak out against it, including Marjorie Taylor Green, obviously Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens. Megan Kelly is still very much supportive of Israel, but she was willing to float the idea that Jeffrey Epstein was a Mossad asset, as did Charlie Kirk, by the way. And so I think you make a really great point about how calling them anti-Semites or Jew haters isn't going to work the same way that it has for the left. In fact, it's probably going to have the opposite reaction. But in regard to the reactions to Megan Kelly's response, you know, to calls to sever her relationship with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, Jonah Goldberg says, so you will condemn anti-Semites on the left, not because they're anti-Semites.
Starting point is 00:45:34 but because they're on the left. But you won't condemn anti-Semites who are on the right or your friends because they're not. Okay, at least that's a position, I guess. I don't think she actually believes, as I'm in the same camp, by the way, she doesn't believe that Tucker Carlson is an anti-Semite. I don't believe for a second that Tucker Carlson is an anti-Semite. I just don't. I think Tucker Carlson cares about the United States.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I think like any other human being who sees endless videos and photos of little children maimed and slaughtered, he's had a negative reaction to that. And it's not about identity. It's not about religion. It's not about the Jews. It's about a specific Israeli government that is completely unhinged and carrying out atrocities with impunity. And he's willing to speak out against that. And the idea that he should be smeared as an anti-Semite for having a problem with a country that uses our weapons to carry out said atrocities is insane to me. So I'm glad that Megan Kelly isn't falling for that trap. Joel Berry responds. Loyalty to friends above all else is an admirable trait. I actually agree with that. It makes you a good friend. I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:46:55 that's a luxury afforded to trustworthy journalists, though. Well, Joel, I guess we're going to have to wait and see. For me, the fact that she's unwilling to disavow and sever ties with people who she probably doesn't even think are anti-Semitic because they're not is a good thing. And then we'll end with this exchange between Kelly and Constantine Kissen, who of course is very supportive of the Israeli state. He says, the problem with this approach, which many on the right are taking, is that this is exactly how the left allowed its own extremist to first flourish and then to become the face of
Starting point is 00:47:30 the entire movement. If you agree with Candace and Tucker, people will respect that. But to many of us, their behavior is so extreme and so deranged that the idea that it can be simply ignored because your fight is with the left doesn't wash. So I'm curious, Constantine, A video went viral yesterday featuring a doctor at Nassar Hospital getting shot and killed with a drone attack. He got shot through a hospital window. The Israelis used a drone to do it. There's video. He's a doctor.
Starting point is 00:48:05 He was in the hospital working. Is that not extreme and deranged? And more importantly, why don't you ever speak out about those atrocities? because I sure as hell believe that you would speak out against that atrocity if it was committed by Hamas. If Hamas had that type of weaponry and did the same thing to an Israeli doctor inside an Israeli hospital, I would speak out against that atrocity because that's a disgusting act. But for some reason, it's more important to hear Megan Kelly disavow other right-wing voices because they're not playing along with this dog and pony show in regard to the Israeli government
Starting point is 00:48:41 and their military operations in Gaza and the West Bank. And then she responded with, the more, God, I love, this is like my favorite tweet of hers of all time, because it resonates with me so much. The more one insists that I say what one demands me to, the more committed I get in my refusal. I need everyone to put that in their pipe and smoke it, not just in regard to this context and this story, but just in general as it pertains to, yes, Megan Kelly, but also me. Back to you, Jank. Yeah, so a lot to say about this. So I saw the same video of the doctor. He got shot in the head, by the way. Israel didn't claim he's a terrorist or anything. They're like, no, we're just randomly executing doctors in Gaza. By the way, it's a two-for. Not only do you murder the doctor, but you also prevent him from treating injured Palestinians and kids and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:49:30 So they can die too. The Israeli government at this point are obvious terrorists. They have a worse civilian kill ratio than Hamas does. And they've killed 500 times the number of children. So it is a terrorist. state right now. And if you're offended by that, want to call me an anti-Semite, I laugh at you. I laugh at you at the top of my lungs. I think you're a buffoon who's a racist and a bigot against Palestinians, and you don't mind them being murdered. And I find you to be morally repugnant. So what's interesting to me is that the right wing hasn't experienced this at all. Like that's such an amazing thing. Like we've experienced it our whole lives because I guess they've never ever criticized Israel before.
Starting point is 00:50:10 And there's a reason why I'm going to get to that in a second. But now that for the first time they just smidge of criticism to Israel, boom, they get hit with the same blast of, you're an anti-Semite, cancel them, ruin them, right? And they're like, whoa, what is this? Well, welcome to our world. That's the world we've been living in this whole time. And so thank you for mustering up the courage to criticize a foreign government, especially when you're on the right, that should be a relatively easy ask. But no, Constantine and others
Starting point is 00:50:42 say there should be an exception for Israel. So cancel culture is terrible, terrible, unless you're doing for Israel. Then of course, cancel culture is the best. Castle anyone who criticizes Israel. Okay, so we're totally used to it. And constantly you could do any, look, there's some small number of things I agree and respect Constantine on. There's a lot of things we disagree on. But this opinion is ridiculous. And by the way, does not speak for the right wing at all. That's the other thing that's so arrogant about the Israeli supporters. They're like, I will speak on behalf of the whole country and the right wing.
Starting point is 00:51:17 We all think that everyone who disagrees is an anti-Sept. You don't speak for anyone, dude. Look at the polls. Look at the polls. You lost the right wing, you lost the left wing. And now this important thing that they're doing here is another tactic, again, the left is very used to. Now the right is being to find out about. Smeared by proxy.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Oh, Tucker said something that Jonah Goldberg thought was anti-Semitic. Ooh, okay, wow, I'll have to take that under consideration. So that means Megan Kelly, you are smeared by proxy. Why did you say Tucker Carlson is the greatest thing ever? No. No, you have to actively disavow him. Why do they do that? Because they want to isolate anyone who criticizes Israel and make them feel toxic and untouchable so that no one agrees with them.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And then they could cancel the hell out of them and eject them from the national conversation. So this is like Israeli propaganda 101. And if you're on the right wing and you're now experiencing this for the first time, give me a call. I'll tell you the whole playbook they're gonna run against you, okay? Totally. And how they're gonna try to ruin your career and your life. Everybody in mainstream media knows it. That's why they never criticize Israel.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Why do you think they, like you think every cable news anchor is a monster who thinks murdering 20,000 Palestinian kids is no big deal? No, they all know it's terrible, but they're scared to death of losing their multi-million dollar job because there's a bunch of thugs inside this country that are pro-Israel and are on a war path to eliminate anyone who disagrees. Now finally, guys, the most important thing here is why Megan Kelly is refusing their demands. And Tucker Carl said and Megan Kelly have made reference to this before. They said when they were on Fox News, it was different. Why is it different? Now I'll explain
Starting point is 00:53:11 to you why it's different. Because at Fox News, you have a $20 million contract. And Rupert Murdoch loves and serves Israel. So you know, if you criticize Israel, you're going to lose your $20 million a year contract. So that's, but now that they run their own company as she said in their own show, they have to serve the audience. So if they say things that are popular, they make more money. If they say things that are unpopular, they make less money, they have less viewers, et cetera. So now their incentives are in the right place. Make your actual audience happy, not some rando foreign government, because your boss,
Starting point is 00:53:49 a media executive loves Israel, right? By the way, Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish, so this is nothing to do with religion. This is some, there's a bunch of people who are pro-Israel in this country that are such giant zealots that they will eliminate anyone on behalf of Israel. But now they can't eliminate Megan Kelly. She has her own show. They can't eliminate Tucker. They can't eliminate us.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And it's driving them crazy. And I love it. That's right. It's freedom. Hashtag freedom. All right. We got to take a break. When we come back,
Starting point is 00:54:19 I want to talk a little bit about what the public opinion polls are showing us about American sentiment as it pertains to Israel and its military operations in the Middle East. All right back on TYT, Jenkin, Anna, I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm going to do it. Rouse about a road on Twitch, Tucker cares about America, bad take Anna, he cares about his own ass, he just happens to be decent, at reading the room. Rouse about her, here's my point to you, who cares? What are you talking about? So the guy's against the genocide, he's trying to stop a genocide.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Are we supposed to stop him in the middle of that and go, no, no, we still hate you, boo you, don't agree with us, boo! No, he cares about America in his own way. And so some of that we disagree with, some of that we agree with. But it's the part where he goes, I care about America enough that I don't want us doing whatever Israel commands us of us, including paying for a genocide, take yes for an answer, especially on this issue. For God's sake, take yes for an answer. 100%. Yeah. All right, let's talk a little bit about why there's been this intense campaign
Starting point is 00:55:45 to prevent anyone from being overtly critical of the Israeli government. So you might be wondering why there's this intense effort to silence any criticism. of a foreign country, of the Israeli government. Well, it might have to do with the fact that more and more polling seems to indicate that ordinary Americans have really soured on the Israeli government. In fact, I want to go to this political piece that kind of goes in depth on this issue titled an entire generation of Americans is turning on Israel. So this deep dive explains how young Americans are becoming less and less likely to support Israel.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And according to Pew Research from this past March, more than half of American adults, 53%, now have an unfavorable opinion of Israel and only 32% have confidence in Netanyahu. I would venture to say that 32% having confidence in Netanyahu, too high, go down lower. That guy is a complete monster, okay? That's not to say anything of the Israeli people, but in terms of that one individual, he is a monster. And unfortunately, that current government has monsters that are actually even worse than him. Basell Smotrich, Ben Gavir, you guys get the point.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Now, this is a bipartisan phenomenon, which is a pretty new development. So fully, 71% of Democrats under 50 have an unfavorable view of Israel. In the last three years, the share of Republicans under 50 years old who have negative views of Israel jumped from 35% to 5%. to 50%. So Gabe Giardini, no, sorry, I'm not going to say that name correctly, so I'm just going to move on. This is a senior in college and a conservative. He told Politico that there is a belief that this conflict really is not benefiting the American people. And our involvement in it is not benefiting the American people either. I agree with that wholeheartedly. Similarly, a young Democrat who happens to be studying at UC San Diego said that we've witnessed an allied relationship that isn't largely fair.
Starting point is 00:58:01 I'm guessing that this student is specifically referring to the fact that we keep shelling out tens of billions of dollars for Israel's war efforts when we're drowning in debt. We keep accumulating debt on behalf of a foreign government. And as young Americans become less supportive of Israel, young Israelis are actually moving further to the right. So these two things are happening simultaneously. 58% of Jewish Israelis define themselves as right wing in a 2024 survey by the Israel Democracy Institute. Only 46% of Jewish Israelis identified that way in April of 2019. Israel's population is also growing more religious with nearly 25% of, of Israelis on track to be ultra-Orthodox by 2050. And look, again, Israel is a foreign country.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And whatever they engage in in their own actual green line borders, I don't care. I don't care about their political identity. I just don't think that the U.S. taxpayers should be forced to bankroll any atrocity they decide to carry out in the Middle East. And I say Middle East, because let's not forget, they have bombed several countries, and not just in the Middle East, by the way. So we know that they've gone after Yemen, they've gone after Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon. I mean, Tunisia, the list goes on and on. With young Israelis moving further right, young Americans growing more disaffected with far-right Israeli government, with the far-right Israeli government.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Even Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is acknowledging that Israel might have to make do without so much international support, even from the United States, saying that we have no choice, at least for the coming years, we have to cope with these attempts at isolation. And we must first develop the ability to manage on our own. I agree, you definitely should find ways to manage on your own. And the U.S. should no longer provide military or financial support to the Israeli government. Yeah, here's what I love. Everyone's getting caught. So soon the whole country is going to realize it's not just Israel. The corporate donors, different foreign governments, any big giant donors, they're all buying our politicians.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Before, mainstream media did a great job, a legendary job at suppressing that fact. And whenever you would say it, although no one ever said it in mainstream media, they would say, oh, that sounds conspiratorial. You think just because oil companies gave a million dollars to this politician, that's why they voted to give oil companies. $35 billion in subsidies. That sounds so crazy and conspiratorial. No, that's obvious. You'd have to be a moron to think,
Starting point is 01:00:51 oh, a politician got $1 million in campaign contributions, and he didn't do what his donors asked. And by the way, if you're mainstream media and you have all these cases of where they didn't do what the donors asked, go ahead and share them. Prove your case that our politicians are so honest and wonderful people, etc. But in the past, before online media,
Starting point is 01:01:11 media which I love I love it with a passion okay and all the smears of mainstream media they have disinformation and misinformation on there no we have the correct objective information Israel is God anyone who criticizes them should be fired and their life should be ruined you see how objective we are okay hey guys on mainstream we does that apply to any other country no shut up it doesn't apply to any other country only Israel it seems like you're a little biased. You're anti-Semi, fire them. Okay. So now, because of online media, everyone's getting caught, everyone's getting caught. So big oil, you're going to come, your day's going to come,
Starting point is 01:01:51 big farmer, your day's going to come soon, okay? But for now, we're on Israel, because Israel's saying you owe us. You gave us $310 billion so far, not enough. You gave us $18 billion during Biden so we could kill more Palestinians, not enough. Now we told Trump, You give us another six, and then the other day another seven. Just keep on giving. You owe us. You owe us. And if you don't give me your money, you hate people.
Starting point is 01:02:19 And you're a racist anti-Semite. Well, keep going, brothers and sisters. Soon you'll have zero support in America, okay? Because now you're caught. Why do you think these numbers are moving that much? It's not even the left wing. It's the right wing. The left wing's gone already, 92 to 8.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Nah, nah, nah. That includes tons and tons of young Jews, most of the young Jewish Americans. Why? They're Americans. They love peace. They're for nonviolence. And they don't- I think they're anti-Semites. No, of course. By the way, they do say that. I mean, the older- Ridiculous. That's insane. That's insane. It's so crazy. No, there's nothing that you could do for pro-Israel zealts where they wouldn't call you an anti-Semite.
Starting point is 01:02:58 They'll call rabbis anti-Semites. Remember that group that was before Canary Mission that had a list of 8,000 Jewish Americans that they were targeting because they would criticize Israel, and they called them self-hating Jews and try to get them fired and ruin their lives. That's disgusting. That's disgusting. Okay, it really is. Yeah, so now you see it in the polls, the right wings going, I don't care what you call me.
Starting point is 01:03:21 In fact, the more you call me that, the more I'm gonna hate Israel, okay? So since there are one trick pony and the only thing they know is call someone an anti-Semite and try to ruin their life, be a bully and a thug inside America on behalf of a foreign government, that's the only trick they know. So now that trick has been exposed, they're caught, and now everybody's looking at them that isn't some paid off by Israel or some pro-Israel zealot. And we're all looking at them like, guys, we can see you now. Like you think we can't see you, but you're right there. And you look ridiculous. And we're not listening to a goddamn thing you say anymore. All right, final thing I'll say before we go to break, we're massively out of time.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Um, you know, there's been this new weird accusation slash talking point that I'm seeing repeated over and over again by bots and by some of the prominent Israel supporters. They accuse anyone who's critical of Israel of being obsessed with Israel. And I want to respond to that accusation. It's true. I'm obsessed with Israel. As long as Israel's taking our money, as long as we, the American people have blood on our hands for supporting a literal genocide being carried out in the money. Middle East. Yeah, yeah. I'm definitely obsessed with Israel. Yeah. And I don't care. And by the way, yeah, no, they say that, well, what, you're not obsessed with Israel? That's the only thing you care about, man. They're all like, oh my God, somebody has criticized Israel. Cancel them. Right? And they're like, Dr. Castle, Castle, Castle, right? And then they go, you're obsessed with Israel. Brother, the only thing you care about is Israel. You Israel above all. You put Israel above every living creature on earth. And we're obsessed with Israel, we just don't want you to use our money to commit a genocide. And by the way,
Starting point is 01:05:07 58 years of brutal occupation, Israel has been abusing five and a half million Palestinian hostages for 58 years. When is it going to be enough, you disgusting racist? All right, when we come back, we are actually going to switch gears and talk about something a little different. We have a secretary of war, Pete Hegesith, who doesn't exactly have such a clear, clean past when it comes to optics,
Starting point is 01:05:38 fat shaming our military generals. I'm sure that'll work out well. We'll be right back.

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