The Young Turks - Kamala Scolds Demonstrators

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

Kamala Harris responds to Michigan rally pro-Palestinian protesters: “You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I’m speaking.” Karine Jean-Pierre slams Cori Bush ""tear your kingdom down"" rant. Sexual-abuse case rocking Israel’s military broke after doctors sounded an alarm. Pelosi on Biden and the effort to push him out: “I’ve never been that impressed with his political operation. They won the White House. Bravo. But my concern was: this ain’t happening, and we have to make a decision for this to happen.” Trump torched for ""word salad"" answer to supporter's very valid question." HOST: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur), Francesca Fiorentini (@franifio) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, live from the polymarker studio in LA, Jake Cougar, Francesca Fioritine, it's the young Turks. So Francesca, great to have you here today. We got some amazing stories later on the program. Kamala Harris has taken not just a lead, but a significant lead.

But unfortunately, we're gonna start with how she might blow it. So absolutely. We got it all here. But Trump's still blowing it even harder potentially. No entendre implied, but truly we'll get to that in a little bit. But let's begin with the top story with this. Project 2025. If he is elected.

I'm here because we believe in democracy. Everyone's voice matters, but I am speaking now. He intends to cut Social Security and Medicare. He intends to surrender our fight against the climate crisis and he intends to end the Affordable Care Act. You know what? If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that. Otherwise, I'm speaking.

That was how Kamala Harris decided to handle protesters at her rally in Detroit, Michigan, home to many like the millions around this country who have a problem with the Democratic Party's support for the Israeli government's ongoing assault on Gaza. those protesters there were shouting Kamala Kamala you can hide we won't vote for genocide and that is how she decided to handle it and you can sort of hear them speaking or you can hear exactly their chance in this video here So again, she addressed it up top, said this is about democracy, and then quickly pulled out the line that so many of us who have voiced very righteous complaints about the support for genocide have been told, which is that we simply want Donald Trump to win the election.

I want to continue on before I can get to you, Jank, because a lot of the people who were there, obviously, were from the uncommitted block of voters in Detroit, Michigan. In Michigan, writ large, a state that is absolutely needed to win the election. And it turns out that before the rally even began, Kamala Harris and vice presidential nominee, Tim Walls, did meet with some of the uncommitted voters. However, it was not a sit down. It was simply on the press line, it was a photo op, and it was not a prearranged meeting. One of the group's co-founders, Lela Elabed, clarified that she and her fellow co-founder, Abbas,

Lawi, talk to Kamala in that photo op, and this is what they said. I said, Michigan voters right now want a way to support you, but we can't do that without a policy change that saves lives in Raza right now. I meet with community members who are losing tens and tens and hundreds of family members in Raza. Will you meet with us to talk about a arms embargo? And she, you know, nodded. She agreed, yes, we will meet. And I understand that when she agreed to meet with me, she wasn't agreeing to an arms embargo.

She was agreeing to discuss an arms embargo and discuss a policy that will save wives now and the Gaza and hopefully get us to the point where we can put our support behind BP Harris. But we can't do that without guarantees for our community. that will save our family members in Palestine. So that was an incredibly thoughtful response. Jank, your reaction to how Kamala Harris effectively shut down to a massive, you know, applause from the crowd, shut down the protesters who are begging her that they will not vote for genocide and to please to stop this.

Yeah, so I want to make a couple of things clear and then get to really hard questions. about what should be done here. So first of all, that brief meeting that they had wasn't really a meeting. Anybody could have gone into a line to shake Kamala Harris's hand. In that brief interaction that they had, they asked for a real meeting and Kamala Harris' team is bragging that at a later time, they might consider meeting with Arab or Muslim leaders. Wow, what a big difference in policy, no, there's no difference at all, zero. If you're not cut into funding, all the rest of it is total nonsense, just marketing propaganda.

Oh, is you going to be more stern towards Netanyahu than Biden was? What difference does it make? Are you going to keep sending them money? I mean, later in the show, we have a story of IDF soldiers charged with sexually assaulting, raping Palestinian men, and we're still sending that money. 40,000 dead, still sending them money. Three Arab capitals attacked by Israel, we're still sending them money. So don't tell me about how you theoretically want to ceasefire.

So again, we'll get to the politics of it in a sec. But in terms of the crowd, look, I know that crowd. And I know, look, people are genuinely excited at this time. I think that Tim Walspick was great. I'm excited. I'm excited for completely different reasons. But I was never naive enough to think that they were going to actually change their policy on Palestine. And certainly not overnight.

We have to put so much more pressure on them. Otherwise, they're just going to go with the donors. I mean, don't make me say it. It's so obvious. Please, please, that's what I'm saying, Democrats. It doesn't mean that you, oh, my God, then I got to vote for Trump. No, Trump's worse than every count, right? But please don't be naive and think that, oh, my God, I love her.

So I'm sure she's going to do all these moral things. And she's not going to care about the donors. And she's going to do what's right to save lives. That's not, that is very unlikely. Okay, so the most we've gotten so far in terms of the people who want the slaughter in Gaza to end is she might meet with Arab or Muslim folks later. Meanwhile, though, after this, of course, our team puts out a statement saying, we'll never cut funding for Israel, never, we're going to keep sending their weapons.

So we'll get to that in a second. But Francesca, on the politics of it, look, on the one, On the one hand, it's super simple, on the other hand, it's super hard. The super simple is first candidate to say, yeah, I'll stop sending Israel weapons, wins Michigan, wins probably a couple of million young voters, and probably wins the election. But I mean, then if you're unfamiliar with American politics, you might say, well, why would anybody hesitate? That's the easiest layup in the world. All you have to say is that you're against slaughter.

And we helped them slaughter all those people to begin with. begin with, we're just saying no more slaughter, even the IDF is saying there's nothing left to bomb in Gaza, right? The reason why it's difficult is because groups like APAC spend $17 million on congressional elections. The amount they might spend on this presidential election is untold. So this is a stark, a divide between donors and voters, as you'll ever see. And of course, both the Democratic and Republican tickets so far have chosen the donors and not the voters. Ironic because Netanyahu absolutely wants Trump to win reelection or be president again. But on the optics, which, you know, I think you're cutting to the meat of it, which is good.

But on the optics, you know, why did Kamala Harris have to shut the protesters down like this? She started good. Okay, democracy matters. You hear what they're saying. We're not going to vote for genocide. side, say I see you and I hear you. You said it once. Just say your line again if you're so concerned about optics. But clearly this is where I think her character is being tested. Look, you're going to get protests about this, about many, many, many other issues. How are you handling it, right? We saw Joe Biden would kind of freeze and he'd sort of let them talk and then other people would speak up for Joe because Joe kind of like, you know, he seemed like he needed help.

But Kamala Harris, shutting this down in such a patronizing way, is a terrible look when there were a million ways to, again, to Jenks point, optically not politics-wise, address the real concerns. But I did want to go to what Jenk was saying, which is, sadly, one of Kamala Harris's advisors on her campaign, and actually an advisor on the Middle East specifically, this morning put out a tweet in response to the call for a weapons arms embargo to Israel. Phil Gordon has been clear. She will always ensure Israel is able to defend itself against Iran and Iran-backed terrorist groups. She does not support an arms embargo in Israel. She will continue to protect civilians in Gaza to uphold international humanitarian law. Now, my heart sinks a little bit because Phil Gordon, if you don't know, was a former Obama advisor who actually did some good things, helped negotiate the Iran deal. And actually apparently was the one whispering in Kamala Harris's ear about, hey, there's a massive humanitarian crisis happening in Gaza. And here you see the line is being towed. And we're going to get, we're going to get to other stories where the line's being towed. But gee, do the voters agree?

Hey, Democrat, Republican, do voters agree? Should we have a weapons embargo on Israel? Does that seem kind of crazy? Does that seem really radical? No, actually not. Let's put up the poll. UGov in March, in March people, months and months and months ago. 52% of all voters say that there should be a weapons embargo. 62% of Biden voters. So miss me with this. This is fringe. Israel is starting World War III right now.

Right now, Jank. They're bombing on three different fronts here. But I'm going to kick it to you on just how much work has to be done to push this candidate. Yeah. So first of all, let me double down on what you said about Phil Gordon. He's actually one of the better foreign policy advisors out there. And so yeah, this is disappointing, but I mean, he's given orders and then he has to follow those orders. And the orders are we will always support his. I don't know that I'm, look, it's going to sound like hyperbole to you, but I'm going to show that it's not. I don't know that it would have made a difference if

they'd killed 400,000 Palestinians rather than 40,000. Because if you say, oh, Jen, come on. If they killed 400,000, then we'd stop the funding, would we? Because if they'd only killed, only killed 4,000, just about three to four times as many as Hamas killed. And I told you, even if they killed 40,000, we wouldn't stop the funding. You probably would have said, oh, Jake, that's hyperbole. Come on, they couldn't kill 40 to 25,000 women and children. And we, and bombed three Arab capitals.

You'd say, oh, come on, Jake, you're being ridiculous. No, no, we still haven't slowed down the funding 1%. In fact, we spent it up. spend it up. We sent them, normally who sent $4 billion a year. That's American taxpayers apparently owe our special ally, infinite money. This year they're like, four, no way. We'll send you 26. We love what you're doing so much. We'll send you $26 billion. So there's no good answers here. Trump is even worse on this. Kamla's, you know, otherwise good foreign policy advisors like, no, Israel above all, okay? So, and look at the facts here. Now this number is

probably lower, as Francesco point out, but only 14% of Democratic voters want us to keep sending weapons to Israel. Only 14%. Why is she on the side of the 14%? Like, again, all regular rules of politics are suspended in America since bribery is legal. And they literally take billions in bribes in these elections. And again, I don't mean to break your heart. I'm not saying Kamala Harris is any worse than any other politicians, no. But if you think she's like a lot better than other politicians. Oh, she won't take the donor money or she won't do what the donors want. And it sucks that I got to be the messenger on that.

Because oftentimes people hate the messenger, but you'll see that it's that's all they ever do. And so look, one more thing on this. I want to be clear though, you don't have to hate Kamala Harris because of this. And you don't have to ignore all of the rest of our policies. Trump is worse on this and he's a billion times worse on everything else. So for me, the choice between the two is still clear. But please don't be extreme on either side where, okay, I'm going to ignore everything else and I'm going to randomly vote for Trump and make it worse. That makes no sense at all, right?

And don't be extreme in saying like, no, I think she's an angel. And she's the one politician who never listens to donors and she's going to magically turn around on Israel even though she just said she won't. So don't be naive on either side. This is politics. Yeah, I think that's a great point. And I will just end it by saying also, you know, we shouldn't shy away from disagreement, right? This is a massive tent party. AOC has said before, I think we all agree that she and Joe Biden wouldn't be in different parties. Were we in a different country? We had a parliamentary system and so on and so forth. Remember that some people get really, really freaked out when there's disagreements on the platform. It's okay. This is healthy.

a democracy. It is healthy to have these disagreements. It's healthy to have to earn people's votes. And we should encourage our politicians to do that. 100%. And can I just say on that? Look, unity is a mythology that has been so stamped in people's heads through mainstream media and establishment Democrats. And they never really mean it. They throw Jamal Bowman, Cory Bush, under the bus, the first chance they get. No, unity means obedience, right? So, but part of obedience, they say, is never dare to disagree with Democratic leaders. Why? Are we not human beings? Are we not allowed to have different opinions? Do we all now have to support the slaughter in Gaza? What an absurd thing to say.

And just because you have one disagreement with a person, or even seven, doesn't mean you're not going to vote for them. At the end, it's a choice, right? You have to choose between two different people. But don't believe the hype that you have to obey which you whatever leader of your party says, it's, of course, it's okay to disagree and still vote for them, depending on how much you agree and disagree. Don't lend out your mind to mainstream media. Make independent judgment. Don't lend out your mind is a great, I just like that. Like just here, you can borrow this until the election, so I don't have to think anymore.

But speaking of demanding unity and also people who are saying wildly different things than they used to say, let's take a look at the fallout from Cory Bush's loss. This kind of rhetoric is inflammatory and defensive and incredibly unhelpful. And look, we're going to continue to condemn any type of political rhetoric in that way. So that was White House Press Secretary Karin Jean-Pierre condemning Representative Cory Bush, who lost her primary election in part to a whole lot of Republican donors who funneled their money into the likes of A-PAC and other pro-Israeli lobbies or pro-slaughter lobbies. Let's take a little bit, take a look a little bit more at what Cory Bush did say that night. Here it is.

There is nothing that happens in my life that happens in vain. So if this happened, it's because it was meant to happen. And let me say, it's because the work that I need to do. Let me say this. APEC, I'm coming to tear your kingdom down. Now, if you're just a normal person, you see that and you're like, that sounds cool. She's going up against big money that spent, you know, that outspent her four to one. But if you take that in the worst faith possible that so many people did, and Jen, you can weigh in on here, you see that and you're Karin Jean-Pierre, and you have to tow the line, and you have to do what the Democratic Party has done to so many specifically progressives of color in Congress, incumbents, and say, that's anti-Semitism.

Because that's the words that Korean Jean-Pier didn't say, but she absolutely implied that what Cory Bush is saying is somehow anti-Semitic. And I just, we just have to stop like buying into the BS. Yeah. So as you're about to see, they, A-PAC and Democratic majority for Israel spent at least $9 million, and then they bundled about $12 million, sorry, to spend against Cory Bush. So $12 million to buy a congressional seat and end your career is not divisive or inflammatory. That's beautiful. Oh, daughter money buying a seat.

Corrine Jean-P.R. and the Biden administration loves it. Complaining about corruption? Complaining about $12 million spent against you to smear you in every possible way, including racist ways? How dare you complain? You're being divisive and inflammatory.

Hey, what happened to unity? I thought we were protecting all Democrats. Right, right, right? What a joke. Look at her, like relishing, throwing Cory Bush under the bus. She defied Israel. She's the one who's divisive and inflammatory. By the way, we're sending 26 billion more to Israel to slaughter more innocent Palestinians. But remember, you guys are divisive and inflammatory. Yeah, and let's get to those numbers, because, you know, as you teased up, we talked about this,

but outside groups did dump $18.2 million into this primary. race. Everyone remember that. It's the second most expensive in primary history. Wesley Bell, who was Corey's opponent. Their backers outspent groups supporting Bush roughly 4 to 1. A PAC, Super PAC spent 8.5 million backing Bell's campaign. Democratic majority for Israel PACs spent half a million. And major Democratic donor, Reid Hoffman, also big donor to Kamala Harris, spent 1.5 million in support for Bell. Again, that happened. It played out as voter engagement, phone banking, but more importantly, and Jenk knows this, those digital ads, the mailers, the radio ads, and then including one of the ads that distorted Cory Bush's face, just completely

like changed a photo of her and made her look totally different. Why? I don't know. Obviously I said the second most expensive, the first was to unseat progressive representative Jamal Bowman in favor of George Latimer in that New York race, $23 million was spent to unseat Bowman. 60% of that money came from APAC itself, which poured more than $14 million into the race in the course of five weeks people. In total progressive groups backing Bowman spent 1.75 million on the race. I want to just actually go to Medi Hassan here on CNN. He's making an excellent point, one that we've made time and time again. But five weeks, $14 million for Bowman, there is no way, no matter how many doors you knock, you can compete with that kind of money.

Take a look at what he said. One of the most expensive house primaries in recent history, the most expensive, of course, was Jamal Bowman, who just lost a few weeks ago to a candidate, also backed by APEC super PAC. We talk a lot about democracy on this show, on our networks. I think if we're going to have a conversation about democracy, we have to talk about the role of money, unlimited money, dark money in our races. $23 million, I think, spent in Jamal Bowman's race, $8.5 million by the United Democracy Project here. By the way, that's an A-Pact-A-Ligned super PAC, which gets a lot of money from Republicans. According to Politico, it's the biggest

source of Republican money in Democratic primaries. So the system has to be fixed. You can like Cory Bush. I happen to like her. A lot of people don't like her or not. I don't think anyone's okay with the system where you spend, these groups spend millions and millions of dollars on an issue that, you know. Right. So again, the larger question here is how in the hell can a lobbying group, specifically a foreign lobbying group, spend this much money on our elections and a primary race? And Jank, we talked about this. Wesley Bell is not just a vote blue no matter who. He is not just the same as Cory Bush, but he, but he's a, you know, he supports Israel's right to defend itself no matter what, no matter how many people die or are abused. No, he actually is markedly worse as a St. Louis prosecutor. The population in that jail has risen. Folks who believe in police reform and criminal justice reform have been deeply unhappy with him.

But that doesn't matter because more money came in. I'm just amazed that nobody calls Biden out on not supporting this incumbent. We're supposed to support, you know, you've got a black woman running for president. he supports his vice president, but because she's a progressive and she dares say ceasefire, nope, you can get thrown under the bus. Yeah, but I'm going to be gracious. I want to congratulate Wesley Bell, the new congressman from Haifa. And I'm sure he'll serve his home city really well.

He will never vote against Israel. Here, this is the easiest prediction of all time, okay? write it down in granite. Wesley Bell will vote with Israel no matter what. There isn't any force on earth that can get him to vote against Israel or Netanyahu and the right wing government of Israel. So if, look, at this point, mainstream media and the politicians in Washington are beginning to be, like, be recognized by the rest of the country as a cult.

that believes maniacal things like, oh, no, spending $23 million in a house race isn't corruption. No, APEC probably did it for the general welfare. Oh, they care so much about St. Louis. I mean, I know it's the American-Israeli political action committee, but no, no, no, they didn't do it for Israel. They did it for St. Louis. They did it for charity. And Wesley Bell didn't promise them anything. I bet he, I don't know how he's going to vote.

Like, if you believe those things, you believe a lunatic conspiracy theory. and the rest of us look at the Korean Jean-Pierrez of the world and almost everyone in Washington and go, what a sad, pathetic cult that believes maniacal things that no reasonable human being could possibly believe. Of course, A-PAC bought those seats, and the mutant who won in New York against Jamal Abomin and this congressman from Haifa will never, ever vote against Israel, and every rational person knows that. Mm-hmm. All right. I think we have to take our break.

We do. We do. Don't worry, guys. We do have good news on Kamala Harris and Tim Walls and wonderfully terrible news about Donald Trump. We'll be back. For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small-eye coffee for five bucks plus tax available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants price excludes flavored ice coffee and delivery. our Operation Hope, I'm doing an Operation Hope fundraiser, by the way, in Chicago.

That's the Sunday before the DNC. So if you're anywhere near Chicago, t.yt.com slash hope fundraiser. TYT.com slash Hope fundraiser. We do that fun $27 thing. Raise a little bit of money, but mainly get to see you guys. So if you can, we'd love to see you there. All right, Frannie. Yeah.

Well, let me just tack on to that. That if you're also in Chicago, you go to the Hope Fundraiser Sunday. Then on Monday, you come see the Bituation Room podcast live, which is my show at the Lincoln Lodge, which is an awesome like comedy venue, Francesca Fiorentini.com. I hope to see you there. But yes, hope and then laughs or both. I think we should do it much. Well, hope and joy.

Perfect. Perfect T. Exactly. Hope and joy. Yeah, also Tim Walls' kids names. I'm sure there's a joy in there somewhere. He's got hope, I got joy. Oh, that's right.

That's right. We got to get through this story, no hope, no joy in this one, in fact, incredibly grim. There is new footage out from an Israeli television channel showing the moments where 10 IDF soldiers allegedly raped a Palestinian detainee at a facility where there has been rampant abuse documented by the New York Times and others called Steit Tymond. You might have remembered it because a couple weeks ago, mobs of Israelis actually raided the facility in order to defend any soldiers from facing accountability for their actions against those detainees. But more about the footage, we're going to show you some stills from it. We won't show you the actual footage. But in it, you see detainees lying on the ground in gray suits sort of in a row with surrounded by razor wire.

And they were lifting up one of those detainees. They take him to a corner of what seems to be, you know, the facility, a hangar. And they're wearing masks. And then three of them are holding their shields that they use supposedly in combat to actually shield what they are doing to this man, which, as we now know, included raping him. And again, this is alleged, but if the hospital workers who treated him are to be believed, that is what is happening here. More on that, because the whole reason we know about this case, and don't get it twisted, this is one of so many cases, but it's because his injuries were so severe that he had to be

treated at a civilian hospital, not at a military hospital. And that's why there's been more information about what happened to him. We still don't know his identity. We don't know his involvement in October 7th or anything like that, but we'll get to some of the reaction later. But more about what happened. He had life-threatening injuries, including broken ribs, quote, obvious signs of assault to the abdomen and chest, and a severe injury to the rectum, most likely caused by the insertion of a foreign object, one of the medical staffers said. Another medical staff, the same medical staffer who treated the detainee said, quote, it was pretty horrifying.

It's just setting the bar so low, I don't know how we can deteriorate more morally. I was aware things like that could happen, but I've never witnessed anything like it. Another Israeli doctor, Yuel Donchin confirmed to the Wall Street Journal that he saw the allegedly abused detainee and was shocked by his condition, which he had earlier said to the Israeli newspaper Ha'arets. He told the paper he couldn't believe an Israeli prison guard could do such a thing. Well, I think Palestinian detainees who have been treated this way for many, many years now would beg to differ. But it actually caught the notice of the State Department. They had to be prompted.

There was a question about it. But here is what Matt Miller, a spokesperson for the State Department in the United States said. We have seen the video and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific. They ought to be investigated fully by the government of Israel by the IDF. Prisoners need to be treated, prisoners human rights need to be respected in all cases. And when there are alleged violations, the government of Israel needs to take steps to investigate those who are alleged to have committed abuses and if appropriate, hold them accountable. So on that accountability of the 10 who arrested five have been let go. Five are still being questioned, there's still an ongoing investigation.

And again, this is just a drop in the bucket, but before I kick it to you, Jenk, I just wanted to show you some of the reactions inside of Israel. You know that there were mobs who stormed the facility, but there are also people openly either on television or in this case, this is a Lakud member, party member, Hanak Mildwiski, who said that yes, this kind of treatment is justified. Take a look. So he says yes, if this person was part of the Nukba unit, which is a Hamasim, military unit that was involved in the October 7th attacks again nothing linking this person to them and even if there were this is a question of whether or not

that is justified not under international law but then here isn't a television commentator within Israel basically saying the same thing this is totally fine and legit This is, I'm in fact that's aqueous. What? What? That's what you're doing you? I'm not sure. I'm not, I'll tell me.

I'll tell me. Let's tell me, I'm afraid of, shuddin, by avarra, of inus, in a certain, kufut. It's not me any of you? No, it's not. No, I'm not. If they're not, they're not

chalding, they're not halyam. In fact, it's, it's an issue to hamas this. I'm all the same, I remember. First, the thing, that's, from my point of my opinion here, is that it's not any mediality

most dered of the state. So there he says he doesn't give a rat's ass what they did to this person and in fact

his only problem with it is that it's not sanctioned by the IDF. In other words, why is there an investigation happening?

Now, Jank, in both of those clips, there are people who are pushing back in case you think everyone inside of Israel is

part of the mob that's trying to exonerate these soldiers. But where's the bottom here? Like when does the depravity end? And I'm sorry, but the mealy mouth statements from the State Department, the investigations, first it's the hospitals, then it's Hindra Job, the six-year-old killed inside of her car with her whole family. There's never going to be an honest investigation. And what's going to happen if and when

there is? What will the U.S. do? I know what they're going to do and I want to get to the diversity within Israel in a second. But first, to your point about the State Department's spokesperson, let me do a translation for you. We're so outraged, we're considering sending them another $26 billion to do it again and again And again, if you're outraged, you show it by saying, hey, I don't want to fund this. This is an atrocity. But if you ask that brother, he'll tell you, no way, we're going to send him more money.

More money. So where's the outrage? You're not outraged. So shut up about it. Stop lying. That guy's nothing but a giant serial pathological liar. His job is to lie. And not even on behalf of America, on behalf of Israel.

So by the way, you want to know most of the people that they keep in that prison are civilians, that they have never presented any evidence against. And the kangaroo courts that the IDF runs in cases where IDF soldiers are charged, which is very, very, very rare. They quit 99% of the time. Cases where Palestinians are charged, they convict 99% of the time. It's absurd. So, oh, our spokesperson said the IDF is handling it.

Well, then I'm sure the people who did the rape are probably in a best position to adjudy. whether it was a rape or not. So all of this is absurd. And so what you're seeing there is actually hostages. Israel takes hostages all the time. They take thousands of hostages. And then they go, okay, we want our hostages back. It's terrible when Hamas takes hostages.

But when Israel takes hostages, we call them prisoners, detainees. Well, do you have any evidence that they're connected to Moss? No, I don't, who cares? Who cares? Because Israel can do anything they want. Now, to the diversity within Israel, It was an Israeli doctor that turned them in.

He said this is not, it shocked his conscience, right? So are there people like that inside Israel? Of course, look at the cabinet, I'm sorry, the Knesset member who's fighting back against the right wing there. Look at the panelists who's fighting back against the right wing Israeli commentator. So it's, we're not going to do cartoon stereotypical characters of either side or any side of any conflict, okay? All of these things are complicated with plenty of people.

on all sides and then yahoo gets protested all the time. Now having said that, let's tell you about the other side of Israeli society. As Frannie referred to there, settlers rush the gates to free these guys. They were so moved that the rapists be freed. They're like, what do you mean? They were just raping Palestinians. That's great. This is our land.

God told us it's our land, so we stole Palestinian land. And I want to congratulate those. I congratulate those beautiful guys who raped those Palestinians. Look, fundamentalists of all stripes are a scourge upon this earth. I don't care what religion they're from. They believe they're talking to an invisible person, and that invisible person always tells them to kill anyone that is not in their group. Take their land and to try to start a giant war.

If you're a psychopath who thinks you're talking to a homicidal invisible person, I'm not interested in your goddamn opinion. settlers should have been thrown out a long time ago. They're the ones that are causing most of the problem in the entire region, and the ones that might drag us into World War III in the Middle East. So now when Hamas did sexual assault on October 7th, we were all outraged, and Israel was so outraged, they killed 40,000 Palestinians, two-thirds of whom are women and innocent, women and children. When Israel does the same thing, not only will we not support the Palestinians

fighting back, of course not. We won't support the Palestinians to even get a state, of course not. We won't even support ending the war and ending the rape and ending the atrocities, of course not. But we'll send them billions of dollars. So when one side does it, 40,000 people get killed. When the other side does it, they get a $26 billion gift. Anyone who thinks that's fair has lost their humanity. Right. Because it's pure racism, Jank. I mean, and this is the other thing.

It's that Palestinians are not human. And we are being told, supposedly, in the eyes of the genocide enablers and the ones were carrying it out. And so I'm glad that there's dissent within Israel. Good. That's great. But you saw in the second clip, the man say, do we not believe in the morality of our army? And once again, we remember that the IDF, it's the defense forces.

They call themselves the most moral army on earth with zero sense of irony, of hypocrisy, with zero understanding of their own soldiers who've blown the whistle on their own actions, who say, yes, I killed, I maimed, I raped, and honestly, half of it was out of boredom. We've seen these soldiers raid people's bedrooms, put on women's lingerie, relish in obliterating schools for children as they dance on the them saying, yay, there'll be no more education. So at what point, like what Israel are we defending here? Are you all? What moral army is there? Where's the front line? Where is the front line? Can anyone ask, tell me where the front line in this war with Hamas is? No, you can't because it's

not a real war. It's a genocide. I mean, I don't have any words, but truly, I hope that the liberal Zionists watching, listening, hey, who've been on this show before, understand, it's always been this way. The IDF is always relished in war crimes because they consider themselves superior racially, ethnically to the Palestinian people. And they have the biggest attack dog, the United States, in their corner. And I hope you know this is the country you defend. All right, my last thoughts on it are again to the diversity within Israel. Even Shinbet, their internal security is saying, don't do this. This is a terrible idea. And And it goes to the point I've been making throughout, do you think this is good for Israel?

To be known as people who rape their prisoners, to be known as the butchers that killed 25,000 women and children? How does this help Israel? How does this create a safe haven for Israel? How is it bombing three Arab capitals going to help Israel be safe? It's people have lost sight of reality in their rage. And so they can't see straight. And they have become what they most despised. And so, and you see us showing grace to Israel here by saying, don't just judge all of them.

There's a lot of people inside Israel that are definitely against this. Do they show this, does the other side here in America show the same grace to Palestinians? Because what I see often is, they're all Hamas. They all agree to the same ideology. They're all Muslims who believe in violence. They can never be redeemed. You can't make a peace deal with these guys, with these people. They're all anti-Semites.

They're all Nazis, right? I see that 24-7 all over social media and unfortunately all over mainstream media. Can you treat the Palestinians as human beings for once in your life? Is 57 years of brutal oppression not enough? What do you want from these people? Jesus Christ, let them go already. That's the, I just, we have to break, but that is the most important point, Jank, is do you extend the same grace to the Palestinian people that we're supposed to extend to the Israeli people? Oh, they don't all agree. We hate Netanyahu. Well, what about Palestinians who don't agree with Hamas? Who don't want to be represented by them, who don't want to suffer for the attacks that they that they waged. Do we have grace for them? No, no, no. No, we kill everybody. They're all, they're all Hamas. That point, that point, a million times over that point. All right, we've got to take a break, guys.

Thank you, for any. We'll be back. All right, back on TYT, Jenk and Francesca with you guys. Check out Francesca on the Bituation Room. That's her podcast. And that's in the TYT network. So check out all of our podcasts too. Lee Middleton, thank you for gifting 10 memberships and Moondragon.

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Nancy Pelosi's book tour is kind of incredible, mostly because she's throwing some serious shade at Joe Biden. In a recent interview with the New Yorkers, David Remnick, Nancy said some pretty tough things about the current president, about how he just wouldn't budge. And specifically, there was this line that stood out to everybody. She said, quote, I've never been that impressed with this political operation. They won the White House, Bravo. But my concern was, this ain't happening. And we have to make a decision for this to happen. The president has to make the decision for that to happen.

My Nancy is a little Trumpy. But Bravo, you won the White House, but you weren't going to be reelected. Again, the hard truth that we were all shouting into the. void here. This obviously happened after she got sort of pressed about it. And so she finally said that. We started to see this this little sourness from Nancy after her morning Joe appearance. This is before Biden had dropped out. Take a look. Does he have your support to be the head of the Democrats? As long as the president had the president. It's up to the president to decide if he is going to

run. We're all encouraging him to to make that. decision because time is running short. He's beloved. He is respected and people want him to make that decision. He has made the decision. He has said he has made the decision. He has said firmly this week he is going to run. Do you want him to run? I want him to do whatever he decides to do. And that's that's the way it is. Whatever he decides we go with. But there is a right answer. Isn't there, Nance? More from that New Yorker article. She said, here's the thing. I've known Joe Biden for over 40 years since I was chair of the California Democratic Party, and I love him so much. I think he's been really a fantastic president of the United States. I really wanted him to make a decision for a better campaign because they were not facing the fact of what was happening. And before I get to you, she got pressed on to say this. So she says, according to David Remnick, you're looking at me and waiting for this moment to pass. Yeah, but I'm trying to think of why you're even asking it. Because, you know, I'm not going to answer the way you want.

I didn't plan on doing that on Morning Joe again. So she's getting impressed. She's saying, speaking the truth. And there she is that ultimately it was I wasn't actually that impressed by his political campaign. But interestingly, she also says that she wasn't the one who forced him out. That she wasn't behind the scenes making all the calls. She says, they said I was burning up the lines, meaning the phone lines that I was talking to Chuck. I didn't talk to Chuck at all.

I never called one person, but people were calling me, saying that there was a challenge there. So there had to be a change in leadership of the campaign or what would come next. So I don't know, Jank, should we give her this credit for successfully convincing Biden to drop out or at least organizing Democrats behind her back, behind his back. Apparently she said that there was going to be a hard way to force him out if he didn't go lightly, which he didn't really go lightly. Yeah, so look, as I read the piece, I was a little bit torn like you. I was like, wait, she's really saying she didn't really do it, right?

Right. And she almost halfway convinced me. But she did do it. And the reason I say that is because bottom line is whether she fully intended it or it was, you know, it just came out, she definitely made it clear in that TV appearance that we showed you that she didn't think that Biden should continue. And that restarted the conversation, at a bare minimum, that is still very bold. And for her to call Biden and say, I think you should drop out, very bold.

And for her to, look, guys, there's it in Washington, there's a whole infrastructure around this. In fact, they literally call it. And I didn't know this. I learned it in this particular article. So a good job by David Remnick here. They call it a permission structure. You have to receive permission from a Democratic leader. before you say anything, which I, of course, think is absolutely pathetic.

But the fact that that's in the D.C. lingo shows you, the whole town is built on obedience. And so, and of course, obedience to the powerful. So in this case, she allowed, she allowed others to have the permission to say that Joe Biden should step down. And you could also tell in her dismissive comments, so she's like, they won the White House. Bravo. I was like, whoa, okay? And we showed you a couple of days ago, she said, oh, are we still friends with Joe Biden? I hope so, but, you know, I guess he's going to have to call me and let me know, or you should ask him whether we're still friends. So there's no question that she had an enormous part in this. And by the way, in a good way. So thank you

Nancy Pelosi, I appreciate you doing this and late in her career actually living up to master strategist here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She, she is a tough, you know what. I mean, she's, well, I'll just say cookie or, you know, skunk or whatever like term she would like me to say. Or she, you know, she, whatever, whatever old-timey slogan that only she and Joe Biden understand, that's what she is. And I feel like it's worked against progressives, nine times out of when Nancy Pelosi operates, it's to ouse progressives and to, you know, to like put the cold, hot, whatever, cold hot blanket, wet blanket on their plans. But in this case, it's like, okay, she wants the donor money. And when the donors were jumping ship on Biden, I mean,

the right was freaking out about it. It was a cool. I don't know, maybe it was. Maybe it was, but it's perfectly within a party's jurisdiction to say this guy can't, is not up for the job to run again and be president and he's going to lose to Donald Trump, all the polling indicates that. And Nancy Pelosi just wants to win. And so beyond that, I think we disagree with her about pretty much everything, including the fact that she will not relinquish the ability to trade stocks. But on winning on whether or not we should vote against Trump, we should get Trump out and not risk another Trump presidency, we're all in agreement here. So throw the shade girl throw it, even if, you know, in her monolos.

Yeah, look, I've never been impressed by her, you know, being a master legislator. But to be fair to her, when they do the propaganda on her behalf and they pretend she passed a lot of bills when she barely passed any, that drives me crazy. But she was a master legislator in enforcing corporate rule and eliminating progressives. She was terrific at that. So I'm just shocked that she used it for as a force of good at the end. here to try to win this election that she was not willing to go quietly into that good night. And I deeply appreciate that. So apparently it feels pretty good to be on Nancy Pelosi's side.

So this is how all the corporate donors and all the corporate politicians have felt for decades. So, but hey, not only did she deliver on this, but apparently she pushed for Tim Walz. Those are two giant wins at the near the end of Nancy Pelosi's career. And so hats off to that. we're the fair show in America. You do something right, we give you credit. Credit where credit is due, we don't hold grudges, it isn't personal. I don't know Nancy Pelosi from Adam. She does bad things.

I'm going to be honest with you and tell you that she does bad things. She does a great thing and we appreciate it. We thank her for it. And then finally, Frannie, she said it that in order ago. I kind of love this. It's a little bit random, but she said about her willingness to do this. When when one day I go happily to meet my creator, he will say to me, show me your wounds. And if I have no wounds, he will say, was nothing worth fighting for?

You've got to be proud of your wounds. Wow. Okay, I like that comment a lot. And apparently I'm going to heaven because I ain't got nothing but wounds. Yeah, she's like, he can't just go walk into heaven with two fridgefuls of ice cream. You actually have to have some wounds. Yeah, she looks, she's a fighter and not always for the things that we believe in, but in this case, you're absolutely right. Maybe she'll just become full calming, like in her, like, remember how Obama, Final Lap Obama, I used to call him.

Like, I call him Flobama, actually, final lap Obama. He was doing great stuff when he had like three months left. She's still running for re-election, however, so we'll see. Well, if she keeps going this way, I'm going to root for her. Exactly. She'll actually, what if she gives us Medicare for all? Like, what if she fights for that? Because she's been like, look, the signs, what's her line?

Oh, I've got signs in my basement that say Medicare for all that have collected dust since before you were born. And you're like, yeah, babe, you haven't been hoisting those signs up all these years. What if she finally undust them and hoist them up? What if she goes to the basement to get the ice cream, sees the sign, and all of a sudden gets this universal health care? I might fight for her re-election. All right, I think we have one more.

Let's squeeze, this is too good. It's too good, guys. Occasionally, Fox News tries to do real reporting. Kudos to them, it is an election year. Sometimes they even speak to real voters about real issues. And sometimes Donald Trump's on the line too. He can hear those real voters concerns. And this was a pretty good question from a voter.

Take a look. What are you going to do about bringing down the rent and things like that in the economy? Because out of eight children that I'm a father and a stepfather too, Five of them are struggling and I'm giving them part of my income on a regular basis. How are you going to make the economy not just that, you know, the food and electricity, but bring down the rent prices, the housing prices so that these kids can survive and without their parents help. Such a good question, Mr. President.

Whoa, such a good question from a guy who belongs to a motorcycle. motorcycle club in Sturgis, South Dakota. There he was. The rent is too damn high. It truly is. And Donald Trump's on the line. And let's see, he heard the whole question. What does our former president have to say about the rent being high? You're right. I hear it very well. And I tell you, first of all, I love the people that you're with. I know that I must have at least 99, perhaps 100% of all of them. And I think they're incredible. We are going to drill baby drill. We're going to bring down the cost of energy. Energy is what caused the worst inflation. I think in the history of our country, food prices

are up 50 percent, sometimes more. You look at bacon. Bacon is quadrupled. You can't order bacon. You can't order anything. We're living horribly. We have the worst inflation we've probably ever had in our country. And it started because of energy. We're going to drill, Baby Drill. Drill baby drill. Like everyone owns an oil rig? Or is that? Was he talking to the billionaires at Mar-a-Lago that he promised a bunch of

kickbacks if they gave him a billion dollars? I don't know here. Before I can get to you, like this is a huge concern. He had no answer. It is a, it's a massive, massive problem. Half of all renters, this is according to the Harvard Center for Joint Housing Studies. Half of all renters spend more than 30% of their income on rent and utilities, and 12.1 million spend more than half their income on housing and rent. Middle income renters earning from 30 to 75,000 saw the sharpest rise in the cost of housing since 2019.

Even as rents cooled last year, the market's cooled, they're still up 19% from the start of the pandemic. In four years, 19%. I can attest to this, it's wild, and there you go, Jank, that's how he plans to earn that gentleman's vote. Yeah, so I want to come back to that guy and basically left-wing reaction to him. I thought he asked a great question. First, Trump, though, the answer be, it starts with me, me, me, me, me, me, me. He's like, oh, man, I'm having trouble paying the rent. I'm worried about the kids and stuff. And he's like, look at all those people that are for me. They're all going to vote for me. me. That's what you got out of that question? This is a total psychopath, man. Look, I'm,

I'm 100% undeterred on this. I said Biden was too old and I don't care what anybody said he was too old. And Trump is too crazy. It's obvious how crazy is. Bacon price quadrupled. Did it. First of all, fat ass, when's the last time you bought bacon? You really went down to the local publics down in Florida and got yourself some bacon and noticed that the price quadrupled. Of course they didn't quadrupled, it didn't even double. Of course not, he just makes, he pulls it right out of you nowhere, right? So then he says, oh, the answer to your rent problems are oil drilling.

Okay, so when I lived in DC, I was a strongly radio talk show host and I ran out of money and I couldn't pay the rent. And I eventually had to move in with a friend in Baltimore and drive back and forth, instead of stayed on his couch, lived on cereal. At the point where I can't make the rent, if somebody said to me, don't worry, I got your back. I'm going to give subsidies to ExxonMobil. I would have been like, what? Are you serious?

That's like a slap across the face. That's saying, I don't give a damn about you or any of your concerns. And guys, the most important part of this is notice he has absolutely no policies to help the average American. I mean, this is a softball. You can't get an easier question than, hey, what can you do to help the average American who loves and supports you with our actual day-to-day problems? And his answer is help ExxonMobil because they gave me a lot of donor money. That is, okay, so he has no plan. He's not going to help you at all, at all.

There's no question about it. And then the final irony here, Franie, is Trump is a notorious landlord. And in fact, earlier in his life, when he did residential real estate, he and his father were slumlords and adjudicated as slumlords. So you think he's going to help you with the rent? He'd be the first to rob you, brother. He'd be like, sorry, are you? What race is the man who's speaking to me? is I'm on the phone I can't see because I would I would rent to you if you're white.

Are you white? Cool. Black, not so much. But yeah, and look, there's no evidence the Democrats are even better on this issue, right? Like Kamala Harrison and Donald Trump apparently agreed to debate one another on that September 10th ABC debate. So we will see if Kamala Harris has an actual answer to this because the rent is no matter who you vote for, what side, you know, whether you're Democrat or Republican, it is too high. And so of course Donald Trump could never go against the market gods, the real estate gods. But Democrats take hand over fist money from the real estate industry. What is their plan to actually truly cool this market? Which I mean, God, it is, there is so much robbery happening within the real estate market on everyday renters.

So I'm curious to see how both answer that during the debate. Yeah, so my last thing's here, I'm a stubborn guy. So I know that, oh, well, if you say that anything positive about RFK Jr, we're going to throw dead bears and brainworms at you, that's fine. But there is actually one person in the race with a very good housing policy. Look, guys, I'm going to vote against Trump. I'm going to support Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, especially because she picked Tim Walts. So this doesn't mean I love RFK Jr. and I'm going to vote for him. But his housing policy is end private equity buying all of our homes.

And that is- And sell bear meat. You buy bear meat low, you sell it high, and you get rid of private equity. You know, that's true. Okay, but Frannie, that policy is by far the best housing policy, right? 100%. Yeah, it is. So we're fair on this show. No matter what, we're fair.

And then finally, I was hoping that left wing comment, people commenting on Twitter and social media that are on the left side didn't make fun of this guy because I was worried they were going to and they didn't. And they were like, yeah, that's right. We have the same problems. You see that? And that deserves a real answer. I can't believe we didn't give him an answer. And there was a lot of respect for the question and for that man. And thank you left wing. That's right. That's the right attitude. We're all Americans together and we should all be. fighting for the right solutions together. Okay, all right, everybody check out the obituation room. Frannie, you're awesome, we appreciate you. Check her out in Chicago, as we talked about earlier. Yay.

We're gonna take a break here and we got weirdo Trump coming up in the next hour. Tons of weirdo Trump advance, stay right here.