The Young Turks - Kavanaugh Hearing, New Trump Book & Nike Kaepernick Ad

Episode Date: September 5, 2018

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Starting point is 00:11:20 All right. The first day for the Senate confirmation hearings for Brett Kavanaugh has begun. And a number of things happened during the first. day that I want to touch on today. First off, there were a number of protests that took place, but the loudest protest was actually conducted by Senate Democrats. Now, understand that Democrats have very little power in preventing the confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh. But one thing the Democrats were asking for from the get-go was access to extensive files, records, documents pertaining to previous judgments that Kavanaugh has made. And Republicans have fought them
Starting point is 00:11:59 tooth and nail on that very subject. Now, what you're about to see is how it all unfolded on the first day of the confirmation hearings, and it did get pretty dramatic. Take a look. To serve as Associate Justice. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to be recognized for a question before we proceed. Regular order, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to be recognized to ask a question before we proceed. The committee received just last night, less than 15 hours ago, 42,000 pages of documents that we have not had an opportunity to review or read or analyze. You're out of order. I'll proceed. Mr. Chairman, I agree with my colleague, Senator Harris.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Mr. Chairman, we received 42,000 documents that we haven't been able to review last night. And we believe this hearing should be postponed. Mr. Chairman, if we cannot be recognized, I move to adjourn. The American people get to hear directly from Judge Kevin Long. Mr. Chairman, I move to adjourn. Mr. Chairman, I appeal to the chair to recognize myself or one of my colleagues. You're out of order. Mr. Chairman, I appeal to be recognized on your sense of decency and integrity.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Even the documents you have requested, Mr. Chairman, even the ones that you said, the limited documents you have requested, this committee has not received. And the documents we have, you, sir, have legal committee confidentiality should be transparent. This committee, sir, is a violation of even the values I've heard. you talk about time and time again, the ideals that we should have? What is the rush? What are we trying to hide by not having the documents out front? On the integrity of the documents we've received, there really is no integrity. They have alterations, they have oddities, attachments are missing, emails are cut off halfway through a chain, recipient's names are missing. Sir, we just got a
Starting point is 00:13:50 document dump last night of over 40,000 pages. I would venture to say not one senator here has had time to read through those 40,000 pages. Okay, so just quickly for context, Mitch McConnell was iffy on the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh because of his past. And what I mean by that is, Kavanaugh has served as a judge for quite some time. He worked with Ken Starr to impeach Bill Clinton. So the reason why Republicans have fought against allowing Democrats to see all these documents ahead of time is because it would further complicate the confirmation process.
Starting point is 00:14:23 That's why Mitch McConnell didn't really like him as a Supreme Court nominee. Now, with that said, Democrats finally got access to the documents that they asked for, but as Senator Harris said in that clip, they didn't really get it until 15 hours prior to the confirmation hearings beginning. So that's what's happening. And there's layers upon layers of this. There are a great number of documents that are recourse by the Democrats that are in the archives, and they won't get access to all of those.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Bush lawyers, because he worked for Bush, are withholding some. And then when they pass it on to Trump, Trump's people are withholding others and redacting it. That's why they have an incomplete record. The 42,000 they got in the middle of the night last night is not nearly all the records, but at least it's something extra. But they give them no chance to look at it. How could you possibly read 42,000 pages, even if you had a team of people doing it in 15 hours
Starting point is 00:15:17 overnight? That makes no sense. These are the same Republicans who said, oh my God, the health care bill under Obama was was so large, nobody got a chance to read it. Now they pull this stunt. So look, there are things that I can abide by and things I can't. People are all now concerned that there was too much fighting and interrupting in this proceeding. I am not worried about that at all.
Starting point is 00:15:39 They should fight. And Republicans fought. They fought to the nail to make sure that Merrick Garland never sat on the Supreme Court. They fought for a year. They did every legislative and procedural trick in the book to do that. So, and I don't mind the Republicans fighting back against the Democrats in this proceedings. That's not an issue. What I cannot abide is people like Ben Sass, and I've said some positive things about him
Starting point is 00:16:04 and called him Classy Ben Sassy because of the things that he has been honest about in regards to Trump, and he did that again recently in protecting the rule of law. But in this case, he said the question before us is can he, can Kavanaugh put aside his policy views, I'm going to quote here, and political preferences to put them in a box marked irrelevant and set it aside every morning when he puts down that black robe. Come on, who are you kidding? You're telling us that Kavanaugh, who's one of the most conservative guys ever nominated the Supreme Court, was a deeply political partisan operative under Bush and others, and
Starting point is 00:16:40 on the Ken Starr investigation, is going to put aside his political opinions. Please, don't assault our intelligence. whether you're a Republican, conservative, liberal, Democrat, everybody knows every one of those judges, both conservative and liberal, bring their political opinions to the court. Everybody knows that. It's preposterous and stupid to argue otherwise. It is stupid to argue otherwise because there's already evidence as to how Kavanaugh will conduct himself. So the Federalist Society has promoted him, endorsed him, has included him on the list of potential Supreme Court nominees for Donald Trump. The federal society is very clear about their objective. They want conservative activist judges.
Starting point is 00:17:24 They believe that conservative politicians, primarily the president of the United States, should specifically look for and promote and nominate conservative judges who will carry out their ideology while they serve on the Supreme Court. So again, if this is a federal society pick, which Kavanaugh is, then of course he's going to be an activist judge. Of course, he's going to promote conservative ideology. So I got to jump in on that too, because look, the Republicans always say no more suitors. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:17:55 George E.W. Bush picked suitor, and it turned out that he wasn't as politically conservative as people thought he was, and he wound up siding with the liberals on the court a decent amount of the time. And so they're like, oh, we've got to make sure that never happens again. What does that mean? That clearly means I want a guy who is politically conservative. And why do you think that the right-wing evangelicals are celebrating Kavanaugh now and they're so excited by him? Because he's not going to overturn Roe v. Wade?
Starting point is 00:18:21 No, they believe that he is going to overturn Roe v. Wade because that is his politics. Now, when it comes to judicial principles, well, Anna's right, he would have to be an activist judge and he has shown in the past that he is, to overturn precedent. Now, Roe v. Wade is a precedent that is decades old. But Kavanaugh has shown in previous rulings that he would consider overturning that precedent. Why? He claims he's conservative judicially. If you're conservative judicially, you would not overturn that precedent. You would only do it if you're conservative politically.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And you don't have to guess, in fact, in one of the documents that we got, there's a quote from Kavanaugh because he helped the Bush administration pick judges. So he said at the time, and Sheldon White House, Democratic Senator, summarized it this way. He coached judicial nominees to just tell senators that, quote, this is now Kavanaugh's quote, that they will adhere to statutory texts and they have no ideological agenda. And White House says fairy tales. So Kavanaugh literally coached other people to go and deceive senators by saying, oh my god, oh golly, gee, I would never take politics into account.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He's the one who wrote that playbook. So spare me your crocodile tears about politics, he was appointed because of politics and And he will be deeply political on the Supreme Court. So let's talk about other individuals who protested Kavanaugh's confirmation at this first day of the confirmation hearings. There were women associated with the women's march who decided to voice their opinions. Some did so in the form of protests during the confirmation hearings. They interrupted the confirmation hearings, which I thought was an effective way to get your
Starting point is 00:20:06 point across. Now, women are disrupting this hearing today because our lives are at risk. Women will die if Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed. And that is a quote from Rachel O'Leary Carmona. She is the CEO of the Women's March. Some women showed up wearing handmaid's tail apparel or garb, which I thought was also an effective way to get the message across. These are women who are very much concerned with the confirmation of Kavanaugh leading to
Starting point is 00:20:35 a destruction of reproductive rights in America, the violation of a woman's right to choose. And I also want to give you guys an example of what the scene was like when protesters interrupted the confirmation hearing. So I'm going to skip ahead to video three. Let's take a look. Okay. As the Supreme Court has put it, unless the president can give his advisors some assurance of confidentiality, a president could not expect to read. But you spoke about my decency and my,
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Starting point is 00:23:31 So dozens of protesters did get escorted out of the room, some arrested. So there were loud, you know, angry people there who didn't want this confirmation to go forward. And I can understand why. So some of the Republicans in the hearings were saying, well, you know, don't listen to the protesters or what the Democrats are saying. They're trying to pretend that Kavanaugh hates women and children. And of course, that's not true. Now, wait a minute, wait a minute. So this isn't about, I don't know if, I would be surprised if he hated women and children.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It isn't about hate in that sense. It's about what are your policies. And so is he against a woman's right to choose and hence a woman's decision to do what she wants with her body and to consult with her doctor and make that decision by herself? He is most definitively against that. He's completely against that. So that's not an exaggeration. Would he take rights away from women? 100%.
Starting point is 00:24:31 He would. So if you want to characterize that as being against women's rights and not hating women, okay, fine, that's your description. But he's not going to take away women's rights. He's also going to potentially vote to eliminate things like Obamacare, which would take away protections for contraception, let alone for all of us. The days of pre-existing conditions would be back, and there are a number of things that affect women and, yes, children, that he would be, have a position that would, in our opinion,
Starting point is 00:25:04 would harm them greatly. So when the Republicans pretend that they're playing patty cakes and it's not going to have an effect in your life, that's not true. It will affect your life, especially if you're a woman. So Kavanaugh gave his speech today, his opening statements, and what stood out to me the most was what he chose to emphasize in his statements. And he wanted to kind of make a point about how he doesn't actually, he doesn't hate females. He actually has a lot of love for women and part of the reason why is because he has daughters.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Okay, fair enough. So he touched on his daughters quite a bit and talked about how one of his favorite things to do is serve as a coach for his daughter's basketball teams. Okay, but that doesn't, that's not enough. Like this effort to connect with us on this, hey, I have children, they happen to be girls and I'm actually pretty cool to them. That's not enough to convince us that you wouldn't undo what progress has been made when it comes to reproductive rights. Same thing when it comes to concerns about his feelings toward minorities, particularly the African-American community.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He kind of answered those questions by saying, oh, back in the 1960s, my mom was a teacher in a predominantly black area. Well, problems off. Who cares? We don't care. That doesn't matter at all. Like, your personal touch on these issues don't matter. What matters are, you know, is your voting record, your ruling record, I guess, is a better way of putting it, how you've treated people personally in the past, what you think, how you think the country should move forward, policy-wise.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You know, he's been pretty clear when it comes to his conservative leanings on these issues. And so his opening statements were so incredibly weak when it came to addressing the real concerns people have. Well, look, I'll be harsh and I'll tell you why he does. So the reason he does it is there was no internet in the past. So everybody on TV would come out and go, oh, that was a moving story about how he plays softball with his daughter. Okay, let's move on, right? Well, sorry, those talking heads on TV are borderline irrelevant at this point.
Starting point is 00:27:09 So let me summarize what real progressives think about you and your softball habits. We don't care at all. So you're decent to your daughters. That's a low bar. Congratulations. And by the way, we'll have to take your word for it. But I believe you, I do, okay? Does that mean that you're gonna let them choose what to do with their body?
Starting point is 00:27:28 No. You still, no. He might with his own daughters. Oh yeah, yeah, with his own daughters, he'll pay probably to go outside the country or wherever they need to go or do a blue state, right? But are you going to allow the law to change so they do not have access to controlling their own bodies? Yes, yes you are.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So don't give me pretty stories about it. softball. Look, it's not just about abortion either. One of the things that he would likely strip away if they go after the Affordable Care Act, as they have in the Supreme Court before, is the health care decisions that women get to make. The way that the law would change, bosses would get to make decisions for their female employees. Oh, that'd be great. Oh, but I play softball with my daughters. Later, I'll let their male bosses decide what kind of health care they can and can't get, okay? No, we only care about policy. So spare me your schlock. That's where Joe Scarborough and the idiots on TV, we don't care about that at all. All we care
Starting point is 00:28:28 about is what are you going to do when you get on that court? And everything in your record now indicates that you will vote against women's rights. In fact, that's exactly why the right wing and the evangelicals are thrilled with your selection, because they think you're going to take away Roe versus Wade. Why do you think they're so happy? The lies are would drive me nuts, Republicans, just be honest about it. You campaigned on it all the time. You said in all your campaign ads, you said in all your speeches that you were hoping for a judge that'll take away Roe versus Wade.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Now when it's confirmation hearings, they're like Roe versus Wade, I have no political opinion on that. Anybody have a political opinion on that? Oh, get out, get the hell out of here. Everybody knows you're 100% lying, Kavanaugh and every Republican senator on there. So there's a third part of the story that I want to touch on, and it actually has to do with a Republican who is being honest. So let's get to that.
Starting point is 00:29:24 During the first day of Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, there was one specific Republican who made a statement that really stood out to me. Jeff Flake, Senator Jeff Flake, who has been highly critical of Trump, mentioned that he somewhat sides with Democrats on his concerns in regard to Kavanaugh. So first, I'm going to read you something that move on tweaked. because it has a lot to do with Jeff Flake's concerns, they tweeted a quote by Kavanaugh, and it goes as follows, the country wants the president to be one of us, who bears the same responsibilities of citizenship that all share. But I believe that the president should be
Starting point is 00:30:03 excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office. So Brett Kavanaugh was very clear in saying that he believes the president shouldn't have to deal with indictments and criminal investigations while he is serving in office. That is something that does not sit well with Democrats, and it also doesn't sit well with Republican Senator Jeff Flake. So Jeff Flake said the following during the confirmation hearing, quote, now I know it has been brought up today that a lot of the concern on the other side of the aisle stems from the concern of an administration that doesn't seem to understand and appreciate separation
Starting point is 00:30:39 of powers and the rule of law. I have that concern as well. If you just look at what was said just yesterday by the president, I think it's very concerning. So Senator Flake was specifically referencing a tweet by Trump, and the tweet that Trump put out was this. Two long-running Obama-era investigations of two very popular Republican congressmen were brought to a well-publicized charge just ahead of the midterms by Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins, now in doubt, because there is not enough time. Good time, good job, Jeff. So Trump has been attacking Jeff Sessions for refusing to do Trump's bidding, right?
Starting point is 00:31:18 And Jeff Flake does not think that's okay. Democrats don't think that's okay. So that's the reason why Jeff Flake brought this up. The final part of his statement to Kavanaugh goes as follows. Jeff Sessions has resisted pressure from the president to punish his enemies and relieve pressure on his friends. And many of the questions that you will get on the other side of the aisle and from me will be how you view that relationship, where you believe the Article 1 powers end and
Starting point is 00:31:44 Article 2 powers of the administration begin. So, let me be clear about Kavanaugh's record and why this is so important and why I think this is one of the actual fruitful ways of going after this nominee. So, and I'll talk about the unfruitful ways as well. So he has three problems at a minimum, and one is about executive power. Now, Kavanaugh is the guy who was on Ken Starr's team investigating Bill Clinton. He was actually one of their biggest hatchet men. He was known as a political operative.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And so the two things he pushed for was to investigate Vince Foster's suicide. After there had already been five investigations of it, the FBI had been very clear that it was a suicide. And Kavanaugh fed into the conspiracy theories and said, no, maybe Vince Foster was murdered by the Clintons. So cuckoo for cocoa pops, we're looking at this guy like he's a rational person and everybody's talking about, oh, he's an intellectual. No, he believed that Vince Foster might have been murdered by the Clinton.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's a total lunatic in that regard, okay? So then he went on to aggressively grill Bill Clinton about his sex life. He sent him questions about what kind of oral sex he received. It was incredibly dirty. He then turns around afterwards and goes, no, we should never question any president. Well, isn't that goddamn convenient? And he said that during the Bush administration. While he was serving for the Bush administration.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Now, he just gone through that term. And so after he goes after Clinton the most personal ways possible, then he works for Bush, and then he comes up with their opinion, oh golly gee, we shouldn't bother presidents. Are you kidding me? You were involved in the worst, most egregious case of that. But in the case of Donald Trump, is that one of the reasons he picked him? One of the few judges in the country who raised his hand and said, you should not question the president or bring any charges against them while he's president.
Starting point is 00:33:33 That's basically raising your hand saying, Donald Trump, I will be correct. up for you. Now look, he didn't do it at the time of Trump. I want to be clear about that and we're always want to give you the right facts here, okay? But when Trump goes to look for a judge, he, out of all the judges in the country, there's a couple who say that the president shouldn't be bothered while he's in office. You shouldn't even ask him questions about anything he might have done wrong. Cavana already raised his hand after being the exact opposite in real life. Also, remember, Mitch McConnell did not want Brett Kavanaugh to be Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee because of the fact that Brett Kavanaugh has such a long history,
Starting point is 00:34:11 long pass, and there are countless documents that Democrats can then look to to question Kavanaugh and just kind of lengthen the process of these confirmation hearings. So Trump went against what McConnell wanted and went with Kavanaugh. Why? Because Trump has some sort of affection or admiration for Kavanaugh? You think he knew who Kavanaugh was prior to all this going on? No, he was looking for an individual who would be on his side, should the Supreme Court ever weigh on what's going on with all of these investigations. So there's three things that Trump cared about.
Starting point is 00:34:44 He wanted overturn Roe versus Wade so he can get evangelicals to vote for him in record numbers like they did in 2016. But a lot of judges fit that bill, a lot of them. He wanted people who were going to serve his Republican donors, but there's a ton of right-wing judges who vote with corporations almost no matter what. Kavanaugh is among them, and I'll talk about that in a second. But there's only a couple of judges in the country who fit the first two descriptions and also say the president is basically above the law.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Kavanaugh's position is, after he leaves office, then maybe you could do an investigation of him at that point, which will be incredibly late with stale evidence. And he's a lawyer, he knows that. That means, in essence, you will put somebody on the Supreme Court who doesn't. really believe in our system of government, who doesn't believe in checks and balances, says the president should never be checked above the law. Putting that guy in the Supreme Court on the issue of executive power alone is a danger to our democracy.
Starting point is 00:35:41 That's a real issue. When the Democrats complain about the documents that weren't sent to them in time, they're right, and it is maddening, there was a dirty political trick of the Republicans. But overall, that's not going to resonate enough with the American people. They're not going to worry about documents. That's why the Republicans did it at the last minute, because they knew that that wouldn't But making the president above the law is incredibly important. The other two things that they can attack him on rightfully is corporate power.
Starting point is 00:36:06 In the case of SeaWorld, a person dies. He says basically to summarize the employee, I don't think has rights to safety and health. Sad day for them, they must bow their heads to whatever corporation they work for. And so of course, the Republican donors love that, Trump loves that. But the American people don't love that, they don't want to be killed at work. And then I have a Supreme Court judge says, sad day for you, you shouldn't have signed up for it, corporations can do anything they want. The third thing which Democrats definitely will not get into, but absolutely should, is Citizens
Starting point is 00:36:36 United. This guy clerk for Kennedy, Kennedy wrote Citizens United. It was one of the worst Supreme Court decisions in American history. Make am answer the questions. Do you believe a corporation is a human being? Go ahead, raise your head, because he's going to, he's going to say, well, they're people, they're illegally, have the same rights as people. Actually, they argue that they have more rights than human beings.
Starting point is 00:36:56 But at least make them say it. American people don't believe that. They think it's absolutely insane to say that corporations are people. And secondly, do they have unlimited rights to so-called speech, which the Supreme Court has said is money? In other words, they can just give any amount of money they want through campaign expenditures or independent expenditures. In other words, legally bribe our politicians.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Are you in favor of that? And he's going to say yes, because he's definitely in favor of Citizens United. He's not going to say, oh, Kennedy made the wrong. There's no way he's going to say that. And the country hates Citizens United. Republican voters don't like that corruption. Make them answer those questions. All right, we gotta take a break.
Starting point is 00:37:37 When we come back, more news for you, including that Woodward story that we were promising earlier. So stick around. All right, back on the Young Turks. Quick couple of things. Franco the Brave writes in, I just joined as an activist. I'm from Scotland and live in Ireland. And live in Ireland, love TY-YT, thank you, we appreciate it.
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Starting point is 00:38:55 Obviously, t-y-t.com slash join to join. In fact, let me update you on that and I'll read you one last tweet and then we got a thousand stories. So we started at 27,661, Anna asked for 30,000. Do we already have 30,000? The answer is no. Okay, but we do have 27,761. So 100 of you just signed up and you guys are amazing, amazing, amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:22 We love you guys. All right, now one tweet about, let me see here, about Jeff Flake, I want to read for you. Zappa fans says, Jeff Flake will vote to a point for sure, I guarantee it. There's phones burning up in his office right this second. So yeah, I don't want you guys to mistake what we said there. Jeff Flake made really appropriate good comments, but Jeff Flake does that all the time and then votes with Trump. So he will very, very, very likely vote for Kavanaugh no matter what he says today.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Right. Okay? And that's what I mean by, it's not just us, you guys are the young Turks, thank you for sending that tweet in because I want that kind of clarity. Yes. All right, let's go to the next story. All right. Much of the news coverage today has to do with the fact that Brett Kavanaugh has begun
Starting point is 00:40:09 the Senate confirmation hearings. However, there are federal judges that are being confirmed left and right with the help of Democratic senators like Chuck Schumer. So just to be clear, Donald Trump has successfully nominated and confirmed as many as 60 federal judges, which is a complete and utter disaster. But again, there are Senate Democrats, like Schumer, who have actually brokered deals with senators like Mitch McConnell to help Trump achieve his goal of confirming as many federal judges as humanly possible.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So according to Vox, Chuck Schumer reached an agreement late Tuesday. with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to fast-track the confirmations of 15 Trump-nominated judicial picks. Now, according to Vox, a Senate Democratic aide tried to kind of downplay this by saying, oh, well, I mean, come on, these judges aren't really controversial, except they are. You think that Trump is going to nominate fair federal judges who don't have conservative ideologies? Come on. So the Senate aide said that he emphasizes that Schumer's efforts enable Democrats to hit the campaign trail giving Red State Democrats a few extra days in their
Starting point is 00:41:25 home states before coming back for Senator John McCain's memorial services, which just took place a couple days ago. So think about how pathetic that is, guys, that they're confirming Trump nominees without a fight because they want two or three extra days of campaigning in their States. Pathetic. Okay. And if it was just that, it would be already horrible enough. But the reality is the main thing that they use that time for is fundraising.
Starting point is 00:41:52 So they got to go talk to donors in that time. So they want to hurry up and give Trump what he wants so they can make calls to donors. It's just the grossest thing you've ever seen. It's so bad that even Brian Fallon, who worked for Hillary Clinton, was very proud of that, et cetera, says that this is bringing a buttered knife to a gunfight. He went on to say, it's hard to think of a more pathetic surrender heading into Kavanaugh hearings. Clint Knights are saying it's a pathetic surrender. But what, I mean, what would you expect from Chuck Schumer?
Starting point is 00:42:24 Chuck Schumer is remarkably weak. Like, I can't, I can't envision a Democrat weaker than him. Like, just to give you an example that's not related to federal judges or the Kavanaugh hearings. I mean, think about the way he screwed up, the one opportunity that Democrats, had to get protections, permanent protections for DACA recipients. That was over the whole debate about funding the government. Senate Democrats had leverage in that case. They could have prevented funding the government if Senate Republicans refuse to offer a stand-alone
Starting point is 00:43:00 bill to protect DACA recipients. And so Mitch McConnell goes to Schumer and says, I promise, after we fund the government, I will work with you to get protections for DACA recipients. And Chuck Schumer's like, McConnell promised. Oh, yeah, how did that work out for you? How did that work out for you? There are still no protections for DACA recipients. Schumer is weak, and then they can't understand why left-leaning voters are turning their backs on them.
Starting point is 00:43:26 So, look, it's so bad that a former Harry Reid aide said that Schumer is, quote, not a real leader. When Harry Reid staffers are throwing stones in your direction. Jesus. Boy, you're an incredibly weak leader. So I'm gonna tell you why he does it in a second, but understand what Harry Reid did, though, that was such a debacle. And I said it at the time, and as usual, Democratic apologists said no, they're playing three-dimensional chess.
Starting point is 00:43:53 They waited until the end of Obama's tenure, basically, to lift the filibuster on these kind of federal judges. The Republicans then lifted the filibuster on Supreme Court justices. Now, I said at the time, if you're gonna lift the filibuster on judicial appointments and executive appointments, do it in the beginning. Do it in the beginning. Instead, they let record breaking obstruction happen under the Republicans. And right before they lost their majority, Harry Reid said, oh, let's lift the filibuster
Starting point is 00:44:22 on these things so we can nominate two or three judges. When I said they're gonna lose their majority and then they're gonna let the Republicans run roadshot. And that's exactly what happened. And people said, no, no, Jay, you don't understand, you progressives don't understand. They're playing three dimensional chess. Now we know for a fact, there was no three dimensional chess. No, they did exactly what I warned about.
Starting point is 00:44:41 They gave up their power right before the power of the minority, right before they went into the minority. And so now the Republicans are steamrolling them. And Schumer goes, oh, golly, gee, there's nothing I could do. And I told you that they would take it away from the Supreme Court appointments in a second. And incredibly foolish people who know nothing about current day politics said, oh, no, no, no, no, that's a bridge too far for Republicans. They won't take away the filibuster from Supreme Court nominees.
Starting point is 00:45:10 They took it away immediately for Gorsuch. Come on, stop being so purposely stupid, because it's now insulting our intelligence. So why do they actually do things that they know are maniacally stupid and weak? Because, oh my God, we gotta get the Red State Democrats to win. So forget all the other Democrats, but there's a Democrat in Indiana, North Dakota, and West Virginia, and they think it's a brilliant strategy to be Republican-like. That's right, yeah. So because of that, we're going to cater everything to them.
Starting point is 00:45:42 We're going to say, hey, don't worry, Joe Manchin and Joe Donnelly get to say, oh, yeah, they cleared the way for Trump nominees. But you just screwed over not only all the other Democrats, but you're messaging overall. So what's driving victories today? It's voter turnout. It's not only weak and stupid. It's the wrong strategy, even of all you cared about. Like, they think, oh, Schumer's like, oh, they don't understand.
Starting point is 00:46:06 They know we have red state candidates in Missouri, and we're even worried about our seat in Florida, and Trump actually won those. We know that, you moron, of course we know that. But what you don't know is you never set up our, our framing. Hey, this is why Democrats are right. This is why progressives are right, because you're so busy catering to Joe Mansion and Heidi Heidtkamp and saying, oh, look, they get to brag that they gave Trump everything that he wanted.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You fool, you're suppressing voter turnout. in the whole country, then who wants to come and vote for these weak, pathetic senators that are supposed to represent them on the Democratic side? Right, and then they don't understand, again, when people turn, when Democratic voters turn their backs on Democratic leadership in both the House and the Senate. By the way, one other thing I want to quickly mention is, look, they've already tried this strategy back in 2014. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control
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Starting point is 00:48:24 they vote for conservative light? Look, they've been doing it for the last 10 years, more than that. And how has it worked out? They've lost over a thousand seats across the country. And they're still using the same stupid wrong strategy, because they get paid not to learn those lessons, because their donors want the same thing as the Republicans. So last thing on this, from my perspective, the thing that matters, look, these nominees matter a lot. So far, Trump has gotten so many more confirmed that Obama did in the same period of time, and he goes around bragging about it and says, see, I'm strong.
Starting point is 00:48:58 God damn it, why are you helping him like that? But secondarily, and even more important, is what are they going to do with Cavalry? This gives you a sense of the surrender that they are already planning. And so if they think all the Republicans are going to hold, they're immediately going to quote unquote release the Donnellys and the mansions of the world, those red state Democrats, to vote with Kavanaugh because they think that's a brilliant strategy to win in those races. So they're planning that surrender as we speak.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Do you know what Kavanaugh is polling at? You know Trump's in the 30s. And the whole country hates them, but that apparently did not get into their heads. But in Indiana, he won in double digits. That was in 2016, and he was running against Hillary Clinton. I know you love her, but the rest of the country hates her. But you didn't learn that lesson. So they think, oh, no, Trump must be really popular.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I mean, he beat Hillary Clinton, and I love Hillary Clinton. Right? So, no, he's not polling at those numbers in those states today. But Kavanaugh, is he popular? He's polling at 37%. I don't know if you guys still understand numbers, Democrats in Washington. 37% is a terrible, terrible number, especially where a person who's a Supreme Court nominee has not had attack ads against them, has not gotten any negatives against them, and is
Starting point is 00:50:13 pretending to be nonpartisan, usually there's a lot more respect for judges, usually they pull way higher than politicians. He's at 37%, for God's sake, fight, for the first time in your life, fight. But likely, as usual, they will surrender. Then they'll say we didn't have a choice. Then they'll say, yay, we help the red state Democrats be more like Republicans. Then they'll lose, and then they'll go, oh, golly gee, we should have gone more right wing. Yeah, that's, I know, at the end of everything, that's usually their takeaway.
Starting point is 00:50:45 We should have gone more right wing. And the final part will be like, golly, we really don't understand why progressives are upset. That's amazing. All right, well, when we come back from our break, we'll show you someone who actually is a fighter, unfortunately. And he's a fighter against Jeff Sessions, which I would usually be in favor of, but in this context, not so much.
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Starting point is 00:51:38 In the meantime, enjoy this free second. All right, back on a young church, Jank and Anna with you guys, a couple tweets for you. Turkmenistan writing in. Well, hello to Turkmenistan. Okay. I like that he's speaking for the whole country. Anyway, as Jenk is fond of saying, establishment Democrats are paid to lose. I hear you on that brother.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Roy Lehman with a good point about Kavanaugh. The question that needs to be asked of Kavanaugh is, will you recuse yourself from any litigation that would appear before you if it in any way affects the person who nominate you for this post? That's an excellent question, Roy. So I hope some Democrats are watching and that they ask that question. Last one on the substance here. Beth Haven says, well, I think you're purposely ignoring the Democratic leadership
Starting point is 00:52:25 has become the GOP. They're destroying the party from within on purpose. when someone shows you who they are, believe them. So look, that's probably a little bit harsher than I would go. And I'm sure that that would make their head spin like, what do you mean? We're trying to fight them really hard, right? But the problem is the institutional corruption that we talk about from the donor money. But all right, so thank you, though, all of you for writing in.
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Starting point is 00:54:23 Thank you, guys. What's next? All right. The conflict between Donald Trump and his own attorney general, Jeff Sessions, continues, although it appears to be a one-sided conflict with one side constantly attacking the other side, and then the other side not really responding to it. So the latest has to do with the fact that two Republican representatives are now dealing with some pretty heavy charges against them, and Donald Trump wants to blame Jeff Sessions
Starting point is 00:54:50 and the Department of Justice for it. So here is what Trump had to say via Twitter. Quote, two long-running Obama-era investigations of two very popular Republican congressmen were brought to a well-publicized charge just ahead of the midterms by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job, Jeff. So who was Trump referring to?
Starting point is 00:55:17 Well, first, there's Representative Chris Collins, who was accused of insider trading. Insider trading charges related to a pharmaceutical company that he was heavily invested in. It turned out that there was some bad news involving a clinical trial for a pharmaceutical drug that this company was behind. And once that clinical trial didn't go well, Collins hit up his son, called him several times, finally got him on the phone, told him to sell the stock. That is insider trading, it is illegal, which is why he's facing charges.
Starting point is 00:55:45 The second representative is Duncan Hunter, someone that we've had a lot of fun with over the the past couple weeks, he routinely used campaign funds to pay for personal bills. He and his wife are facing charges in that case. The two famous parts of that are they flew their pet rabbit across the country and used campaign funds to do it. And they paid for shorts for Duncan Hunter Jr., but claimed that it was golf balls for wounded warriors. So a couple parts of this story.
Starting point is 00:56:14 One, this is great news because Donald Trump just implicated himself, I'll explain Y in a second. So I'll come back to that. Two, I mean, even if you're a regular person, you don't know about the law and you're a Trump fan, et cetera. Isn't it kind of obvious what he's doing here? He's saying, I don't care what they did. I just want him to win. So if they were corrupt and they were part of the swamp, who cares? If they lied about helping veterans, wounded warriors, who cares? If they did insider trading, who cares? If they robbed good, honest Republicans who gave money to their campaigns so that they could win elections and put forward conservative principles, but they robbed them.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Who cares? All I care about is politics. But even more important than that, he's telling his attorney general, the head of the Justice Department, do not follow the law, do not enforce the rule of law, be partisan, make political decisions, let Republicans go, and punish Democrats whether they did it or not. And he has said that a number of times, why don't they, Jeff Sessions should investigate Hillary Clinton and all the Democrats, et cetera. Based on what? I don't know, some emails.
Starting point is 00:57:23 The same exact thing that Ivanka and Jared Kushner did, having private emails, right? It doesn't matter. He's publicly declaring, punish my political opponents by misusing the law. Even if you're maga, you've got to see that clear as day. Right. And so I want to just make one quick, clear point about Duncan Hunter and what he did. Understand that Duncan Hunter took campaign donations. People who donated money for him as a candidate, something that we disagree with, right?
Starting point is 00:57:52 We don't want massive campaign donations. He took $250,000 worth of campaign donations and used it to pay his personal bills. He misused his own supporters funds. So this Donald Trump tweet doesn't have to do with the Russia investigation, although he is, of course, super salty about Jeff Sessions recusing himself. This is about going after Jeff Sessions for doing the right. thing in regard to Republican representatives who very clearly broke the law. Point number three is, even if you wanted your attorney general to do that, why would
Starting point is 00:58:24 you admit that publicly? Because he's an idiot. He's an idiot. He loves incriminating himself. Like, his Twitter account is Exhibit A in the Mueller investigation. Yes. He doesn't even really have to do much of an investigation. I give you all the evidence, Trump's Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, you know, look, there's two parts of it, like I said, there's the politics and then there's illegal. On the politics side, I think that he's piling on a lot of straws even onto his mager camel's back. And he's asking those mager guys to keep believing in things that their whole life they claim they didn't believe in. So he's saying, rule of law, who cares? Let's just be partisan.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Republicans, their whole life pretended, oh, no, we care a lot about justice and rule of law, and it shouldn't be a thing that's partisan, et cetera. And now he's just rubbing your face in it, right? And anyone can see it, anyone. So, look, Trump's base is unmoved by any of this. They will support Trump. They will do as Trump asks them to do. But if you can recall last week, we talked about a recent Washington Post ABC News poll
Starting point is 00:59:26 that showed that the majority of Americans, we're talking about in the 60s, support Mueller's investigation, do not believe that session should be fired. Look, and by the way, for our progressive viewers, I want to be clear that I'm not a session's supporter. I'm specifically talking about supporting sessions in this very specific, you know, context. He should not be fired just based on the fact that he once did the right thing in recusing himself or that he did the right thing in going after these Republican representatives who broke the law. He actually did the right thing in these cases. And Trump wants to go after him for that reason. It's not that complicated. He's wrong on all the other things. He's right
Starting point is 01:00:07 on this. He actually did put aside partisanship. And did his job. as Attorney General in pursuing these guys who clearly broke the law. So look, finally, and look, sorry, one more thing on politics, actually. You're right, and in all the videos that we have Eric Beiler going to interview, sometimes Emma Viglin does it for Rebel Headquarters, sometimes Eric Beiler does it. You watch those videos, even of Trump supporters wearing Trump paraphernalia going into Trump rallies. And half of them will tell you, no, no, Mueller's got to finish the investigation. So I think that he's, Trump is playing with fire.
Starting point is 01:00:40 That maggot camel's back has won too many straws. He keeps doing things that are obviously corrupt and brazenly so, and that goes to stupidity, which then returns me to the legal issue. Benjamin Witts is the editor-in-chief of the National Security Law Blog Lawfare. And he went on TV today and made a point that I think is obvious if you're a lawyer, and if you're not, that's why I'm explaining it here, right? You have to show in a case of obstruction of justice in ten. bad intent.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Now that's a really hard thing to show. Hey, I didn't fire Comey. Not with Donald Trump, exactly, right? Because it's so easy for Donald Trump to say, oh, yeah, I fired Comey, but not because of the Russia investigation. I didn't have bad intent. I wasn't trying to stop an investigation of myself. That would be bad intent.
Starting point is 01:01:27 No, I fired him because I didn't like the way he ate his tuna sandwich. You can give it any other reason, okay? I didn't like the way he treated Hillary Clinton, which was the legal reason that Rosenstein gave. It's laughable, but at least it's legal to do that. No one believes it, but it's a good enough lie, right? But Trump can't help himself. So he went on TV and he said, yeah, I fired him because of Russia. You just proved bad intent, okay, if that wasn't enough, then he comes out and here and says,
Starting point is 01:01:53 you shouldn't pursue investigations of Republicans. He said it, okay? That shows you bad intent. I want to obstruct justice when it comes to investigations of Republicans, myself and others, because I care about politics. He talks about how we're two months away from an election. and how he wants them to win politically. You just proved bad intent.
Starting point is 01:02:15 You can't then turn around and go, oh, no, I wanted sessions to not do that investigation because I didn't think it was appropriate legally. You just said it was because of politics. Right. So, Jenk, you're not the only person making this argument. Now, some might argue, well, Jenk, he's a lefty. Should we trust what he has to say? Should we trust his analysis?
Starting point is 01:02:35 I would argue, yes, you should. But even if you think that you can't trust a progressive on this, if you happen to be one of our conservative viewers, here is Judge Napolitano also weighing in on whether or not Trump is doing something shady and possibly illegal. Take a look. These are evidence of, this is evidence of serious crime here. And there can't be two standards, one for members of Congress, Republican members of Congress, and one for others. It is the duty of the Justice Department to prosecute crimes when they find them and to bring indictments when a grand jury has decided there's enough evidence there.
Starting point is 01:03:09 In the case of Congressman Collins from New York, there's an actual tape of him on his cell phone at the White House during a party hosted by President and Mrs. Trump telling his son, sell the stock. So it's obviously wrong what Trump is doing. It's obstruction of justice. and he just handed the Mueller team a huge Christmas gift early. I know he thinks that he's getting everybody to say Merry Christmas, but soon Mueller might be saying Merry Christmas to him because that was a hell of a gift he just gave him.
Starting point is 01:03:46 We got to take a break when we come back, all the juicy tidbits from Bob Woodward's upcoming book. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen ad-free, access members, members only bonus content and more by subscribing to Apple Podcasts at apple.com slash t yt. I'm your host, Shank Huger, and I'll see you soon.

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