The Young Turks - Kushner Cruelty

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Hot dog is my favorite meat. All right, well, the other church, Jane Q Granite with you guys. A bit of an enraging show. We'll try to have fun with it anyway, but so they're apparently squatters who still your home have infinite rights and so do corrupt politicians taking bribes.

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serious. Some hanging trads. Oh, oh, I get it. I get it, I get it. Okay. All right, but we begin with serious subject matter. Jared Kushner, I never thought that was. would be a serious part of subject matter. But Jared Kushner and his thoughts on the ongoing war in Gaza. Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to if people would focus on kind of building up livelihood. So I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there. But I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then

clean it up. I think proactively recognizing a Palestinian state would essentially be rewarding an act of terror? I mean, aren't we at all surprise that those sociopathic comments are coming out of the mouth of Jared Kushner, Donald Trump's son-in-law, of course, who was at Harvard engaging in conversation about the ongoing war in Gaza, and more importantly, what should happen to Gaza following this brutal war that's been carried out by the Israeli government and the IDF.

Now, throughout the interview, he conflated terrorists with Palestinian civilians, favorite tactic that I've noticed on social media among those who want to provide cover for anything that Israel does. And he clearly supports the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza, which can be described as ethnic cleansing if I'm not mistaken, Jank. Yeah, that's actually the very definition of ethnic cleansing. And well, this, he put a cherry on top so we could steal their land. Oh, okay, well, thank you for clarifying. So with that said, why don't we go to our first video and we'll dig right in. It's unfortunate that nobody's taking the refugees. But also there are real fears on the part of Arabs, and I'm sure you talk to a lot of them who think once Gazans leave

Gaza, Netanyahu's never going to let them back in. Maybe, but I'm not sure there's much left of Gaza at this point. So, you know, if you think about even the construct, like, you know, Gaza, Gaza was not really a historical precedent, right? It was the result of a war, right? You had tribes that were in different places, but then Gaza became a thing. Egypt, you know, used to run it. And then, you know, for time, you had different governments that came in different ways. So you have another war, you know, usually when wars happen, you know, borders are changed historically over time. Borders are changed historically over time. That was his statement after being asked

about Netanyahu not wanting Palestinians to return to Gaza. Should they be permanently, or ethnically cleansed from the Gaza Strip into other neighboring countries? including Egypt. I mean, he just set the stage right there. He just justified. Well, I mean, historically speaking, borders change. Wars happen and borders change.

So he's basically conceding that this is what the future of Gaza is going to be for the Palestinian people, meaning no Palestinian people. Yeah, so he clarified in the interview that they should either push him into the Negev desert, which is in Israel, but they say this is just a desert. So we'll just clean it up a little bit and shove them in there and put them in a camp. or a ghetto he didn't use those words but those are perfect words to describe what he's saying he said or we just push him into Egypt and borders change and then once they're in the Sinai desert either way stuff them into a desert and just take their land take Gaza it's beautiful

waterfront property we can make a lot of money off of it me and all my rich friends they're not again I'm I try so hard to clarify not everybody in Israel is going to profit from Jared Kushner's plans, okay? There's a wealthy few that would love to take the oil off the coast of Gaza, and they've already started those plans in Israel, and would love to steal the Palestinian land for themselves. And they're not going to share it with the rest of the Israeli people. No.

They're not going to share it with Jews across the world. There's plenty of poor Jews, a lot of middle class Jews in Israel and all across the world. They're not going to get any of this. Let me get this out of the way. This is really important, okay? So polling indicates that 56% of Israelis are not in favor of pushing Palestinians out of the Gaza Strip. Yes, but there are a few rich people like Jared Kushner who say, yeah, by the way, like in America, like in a lot of places, and a divorce from ethnicity or national background, who say, well, I want the money and abusing the average citizen so that I could make billions more is so normal to them. They're like, so why don't we take two million people and just displace them completely,

ethnically cleanse them, throw in a genocide, and then steal their property and then set up beautiful waterfront properties where I can get more rich. Jared Kushner is one of the most disgusting, vile human beings on planet Earth. And by the way, Democrats, do you have a pulse? This guy took $2 billion from the Saudis right after he did a deal with the Saudis when he was inside the government. You think Democrats don't agree with him on this? You think Democrats don't agree with him on this. Yeah, that's a fair point. Look, listen, if you're having difficulty understanding this concept of moneyed interest, taking advantage of a disaster in

order to accumulate more capital, there's a whole book written about it by Naomi Klein called Shock Doctrine. Read it, because it'll show you exactly how these types of wars tend to play out. So yes, of course there are moneyed interests, eyeing the Gaza Strip, eyeing that property, and thinking to themselves, hey, we could build a nice resort, we could build some housing for the rich and the wealthy, why not? And aside from that, you also have a group of far right radicals in Israel, some of whom are in the government, also eyeing the Gaza Strip as important land that they can use to build more illegal settlements and profit from.

So we're gonna get to that in just a moment, but I want to get to some more of the statements made by Jared Kushner during this interview with Harvard. So he also basically has a specific place in mind for Palestinians to go to. It's what you had alluded to earlier, Jank. So this is the kind of thought process Jared Kushner has when it comes to the lives of literally millions of people. Let's watch. The thing that that I would try to do if I was Israel right now is I would just bulldoze something. in the Negev. I would try to move people in there. I know that won't be the popular thing to do, but I think that that's a better option to do so you can go in and finish the job. I think there

was one decision point they had, do we go into Gaza, do we not go into Gaza? They had the hostages. There really was, I think, no choice. But to do that, I think that they were smart to go slowly and deliberately. Gaza's booby trap like crazy. They have over 400 miles of underground tunnels. And so I think that they've taken some of the right steps in order to go there. But you have to, again, And I think Israel's gone way more out of their way than a lot of other countries would to try to protect civilians from casualties. But I do think right now opening up the Negev, creating a secure area there, moving the civilians out, and then going in and finishing the job would be the right move.

Listen, so many journalists in Gaza have been slaughtered that the reports have slowed down considerably from the Gaza Strip. Israel isn't allowing journalists to access the Gaza Strip to do reporting on the ground. there are rare occasions where they do. CNN's a good example of some of the good reporting they've done on the ground in the Gaza Strip. But I give you that preface to make the real statement I want to make here, okay? As far as we know so far, 31,000 people have been slaughtered in Gaza. The IDF has claimed that of those 31,000 people somewhere around 10 to 12,000 are Hamas militants.

So you do the math. Obviously, there have been far more civilian casualties than Hamas militants who have died as a result of Israel's assault on Gaza. And keep in mind, the death toll does not take into account the number of bodies that are still under the rubble, meaning that the civilian death toll is likely much higher. But Jenk, Jared Kushner tells us that the IDF is really taking some extreme measures to keep civilian life safe in the Gaza Strip, like telling them to evacuate to the south, and then bombing the south after they tell them that they'll be safe there.

That's the kind of extreme measures the IDF takes to ensure Palestinian lives are kept safe. So unfortunately a lot of people are so biased, so blinded by their bias that they can't see straight. So they think that they genuinely believe. It's not just Jared Kushner. Jared Kushner is a special kind of evil that I'm gonna get back to. But there's tons of people who believe Israel does the most to protect civilians. That is the exact opposite of the truth. There is no government that cares less about killing civilians. As long as they're not Israeli civilians. So the North Korean government might care less about its own citizens. That's definitely fair. Bashar al-Sad might care less about his own citizens. That's definitely

fair. But in terms of other people's citizens, no one cares less than Israel. In fact, I can prove that to you. 12,000 kids killed. This is verified by every news organization. That is more children killed than all of the conflicts in the world combined for the last four years. If you somehow in an upside down world believe that killing more innocent children in one five month conflict, then all the conflicts in the world combined for the last four years is being the most careful and not killing civilians. You've lost your mind. You're detached from reality and you will believe any propaganda that you, that Israel feeds you, because you want to believe it. Oh yeah, killing 21, at minimum, 21,000 women and children.

Killing 1,200 Israelis, civilians and soldiers, the worst thing in the world, near Holocaust level, 1,200, 200. Killing 21,000 innocent women and children, irrelevant, irrelevant. You don't see it? You can't see that you sound monstrous when you say that? monstrous. And then what is the IDF standards for what they claim is 10 to 12,000 a monster? They literally count every male in Gaza as a terrorist. Yep. Oh, come on. You can't see that that's insanity. And let alone the offensive part, who cares? They're actually killing them. There's 576. Now 1.1 million people starving to death, starving to death.

And Jared Kushner was like, yes, but what do the waterfront properties look like? And he has, Can you see how callous he is? You see what he said twice? Sociopath. Well done, he said, finish the job, let's finish the job. Let's push them out of Gaza, take their land and finish the job. Well, Jared, that sounds like it has some finality to it. It sounds like that might be a solution that's final.

Congratulations, Jared Kushner. So now you're talking about let's finish them and take their goddamn land and then profit off of it. What do you sound like? You sound like a caricature. And you're doing great damage to Israel, to Jews across the world, etc. As you sit there going, let's kill them, drive them into the desert and steal their land. Jesus Christ, stop.

Stop, you're not just hurting Palestinians. You're hurting Jews and Israelis. Because not everyone in Israel is like this monster of a human being. Monster. Again, 56% of Israelis do not want to ethnically cleanse Palestinians from the Gaza Strip. Gaza strip. They don't want to push them out of the Gaza strip into Egypt or another region of Israel. They're against it. And so, look, I give you that because typically, and we've experienced it throughout our coverage of this war, if you dare speak out against the decision

makers in Israel, the government of Israel, you're automatically labeled anti-Semitic. This commentary has nothing to do with the Israeli people. It has nothing to do with Jewish people. It has everything to do with power players. And if you're going to tell me, you're that the real victims here are the far right members of Israel's far right government, which of course they're all backed by the most powerful country in the world with the most powerful military in the world, the United States. If you're going to tell me that they're the victims and I can't speak out against them because poor, poor, powerful Israeli politicians, I'm not gonna buy it and I'm

not gonna be intimidated by that, period. I want to go to the last video, Jake. So let's go to the last video where you're gonna hear Kushner talk about the property in more context. Let's watch. How do we deal with the terror threat that is there so that it cannot be a threat to Israel or to Egypt, right? I think that both sides are spending a fortune on military. I think neither side really wants to have, you know, a terrorist organization enclave right between them. In Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to, if people would focus on kind of building up, you know, livelihoods. You think about all the money that's gone into this tunnel network and into all the munitions, if that would have gone into

education or innovation, what could have been done. And so I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there. But I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up. Move the people out and clean it up. Okay, we'll get to that last part in just a second. But I just want to decode what he said earlier before he got to that last part. What he's essentially saying in regard to all that money wasted and the tunnel network and all of that he's referring to Hamas allegedly taking the humanitarian aid that's been given to Palestinians and using that money to build the tunnel network instead of building up the Gaza Strip instead of building up properties that you know the Palestinians would be able

to enjoy as as better places to live but what he's trying to say there is that money was wasted so let's just stop with that already okay let's stop wasting that money on this BES dream of building a Palestinian state in the Gaza Strip. Let's get, let's get rid of that because that's valuable property, potentially valuable real estate, Jenk. Yeah. So look, to all the anti-Semites out there, you live in an alternate reality. So who did Jared Kushner do his top deal with?

The Saudis, who are fundamentalist Muslims. Are they do the Saudis have the best interests of the Palestinians at heart? Absolutely not. Again, it depends on which Saudis you're talking about. The people of Saudi Arabia, yes, I'm sure their hearts are with the Palestinians. The leadership of Saudi Arabia are criminals just like Jared Kushner. And so they love to do criminal deals where they rob their own citizens and everybody else's citizens. And they have a good laugh over and then dismember some people along the way.

Which is what, by the way, Jared Kushner or Muhammad bin Salman, the butcher of Riyadh. Our excellent friends, that's who Jared Kushner made a deal with. That's why he got the $2 billion after his time and the administration was over. So this whole idea of making it about religion is totally. utterly, utterly incorrect, it is logically wrong, it is factually wrong. Now, to the right wing demagogues that are Israeli supporters, you calling everything anti-Semitic is totally old and boring and stupid, and it doesn't work. No one's falling for it.

At this point, on college campuses, I'm hearing that if you get called anti-Semitic, it's a badge of honor, okay? That means you're fighting hard for Palestinian lives and trying to save people because you You can't tell anymore, they were real anti-Semites. And we call them out on the show all the time. And then there's like the best people, like, so it's the worst people on earth. And then you have the best people on earth who said, let's say, can we please save the lives of children and women and men and innocent people in Gaza?

Anti-Semite, how dare you criticize Israel? I'm, oh, let's smear them, cancel them. By then, what happened right way? Because I thought you were against cancel culture. When it comes to Israel, you'll get canceled so quick, right? Right? Oh, anti-Semite, anti-Semite. Now look, in the next story, we're gonna tell you about 200 people in Hollywood who are

now saying how dare a Jewish person speak out on behalf of innocent Palestinians. What are you guys doing? Are you insane? Yes. So no, no, I don't care how much you scream anti-Semite into the void. It doesn't work anymore because you guys, you're the boy who cried wolf, you're like, oh, saying that a guy who just said that we'd like to steal their land, push them in in the desert, kill them more, and profit off of it, accurately quoting him is anti-Semitic.

No, brother, his plans are in a sense anti-Semitic. Okay, me pointing it out isn't the problem. The plans are the problem. And if you think, but my feelings are slightly hurt. Well, that kid who was murdered in Gaza by an Israeli bomb, and bombs murder people. If you can't get that through your thick head, oh, what's a big deal? We're not terrorists, we're not terrorists. We just drop a bomb on them and grandmothers just explode.

Their heads explode, their bodies explode. Hey, there's a baby in that building. Explode. Oh, what, what, what? I'm not a terrorist. I'm not a terrorist. Oh, my God, a guy with no power did it. Terrorist.

No, it's old. It's stupid. No one believes it anymore. So you can scream it into the void. You could do anything you like. But we're going to call it out. Jared Kushner is a monster. Anyone who supports pushing the Palestinians out of Gaza Strip is a monster.

Trying now talking about stealing their land and profiting off of it. I can't imagine anything more monstrous other than when he says, let's finish them. And finally, I just wanted to draw attention to reporting that shows that there is a very loud minority within Israel that is demanding that Israelis have the right to return to the Gaza Strip. Remember, they were evacuated from the Gaza Strip when Israel decided to basically pull out, completely withdraw Israelis from the Gaza Strip. And so the New York Times in February of this year published a piece titled, Israeli settlers left Gaza in 2005. They now see a chance to return.

The United States and many other nations are pushing Israel to hand Gaza back to Palestinian leadership. I wouldn't put a lot of weight behind the U.S. pushing Israel to do anything. We're not going to push them in on anything. No, Israel will be able to do whatever it wants. And our government will bow its head and say, yes, sir, may we have another. That's just the reality of the situation. And it's simple.

It's simple to know why. We've talked about it on this show quite a bit. One of the most powerful lobbying groups in the country is A-PAC. All of our politicians, you know, crap their pants, is merely thinking about A-PAC and what A-PAC could do to their careers. So that's really what's going on here. So the U.S. government, especially under the leadership of Joe Biden, as he's proven time in time again, we'll allow Israel to do whatever it wants, but let me get back to the piece here.

So they write that a small group of Israelis is pushing for Israel to retain control of the territory and reestablish the Jewish settlements that were dismantled in Israel's 2005 withdrawal from Gaza. In the absence of a government plan for after the war, talk of settlement is filling the vacuum and alarming Israel's allies. I think their plan is pretty clear. I mean, how many times do literal members of Israel's government need to say it for people to, for reporters to finally accept that what they're saying is what they want and what they're going to do. One reserve soldier whose family was evicted from Gaza in 2005 told the times, quote, the minute the war is over, we'll build our homes there. The question isn't whether we will

return when the fighting is over, but if there will be a Gaza. So there you have Yairair Cohen, a reserve soldier saying it, a Hebrew university poll, as I referenced earlier in December found that 56% of Israelis oppose resettling Gaza. But a vocal minority is trying to build momentum behind their project, and they are supported by a third, a third of the lawmakers in Israel's far-right governing coalition. Meaning a third of the government supports this idea. Again, how many times do they need to tell American reporters what they intend to do before American reporters finally believe them. Finally, at a settler conference in Jerusalem, which was attended by 3,500 people,

including some far right ministers, one group held up signs reading, only transfer will bring peace, meaning transferring Palestinians out of their own land. As he addressed the meeting, Itamar Ben-Gavir, Israel's far-right national security minister, saw the posters and told the group, quote, you are right. Then of the Palestinians living in Gaza, he added, they should go away from here. He's been in favor of ethnic cleansing from day one. He hasn't hit it at all. He believes in pushing them all out of Gaza and 100% stealing their land. If you think that it's not an occupation and it's not their land and Gaza's not a thing. Jared Kushner said,

you're 100% in favor of ethnic cleansing and genocide. Don't pretend you're not. And besides which you can pretend all day long inside your own house and inside your own bubble. But the rest of the world knows that stealing the land, ethnic cleansing, genocide. And And so to the people of Israel, I ask you, is that what you want to be known for? Or have you lost your minds? You want to be a safe haven for Jews because Jews were oppressed throughout history. But if you say to the Palestinians, we're going to steal your land, we're going to shove you into the desert, we're going to kill your women and children, we're going to set up camps for you,

and we're going to put you in ghettos and camps. And then, but don't ever fight back. Don't ever fight back. Bow your heads. And if you ever fight back, we're just going to call you a terrorist and murder you more and build even bigger camps and stuff you into more ghettos. Is that the Israel you're proud of? Is that why you formed Israel in the first place? No, it's the exact opposite reason why you formed Israel.

Exact opposite. But people have lost their minds now Ben Shapiro is saying here in America, how dare Joe Biden complain as he's handing over the check to Israel? As he's handing over a $14 billion check, he has no right to complain about what Israel's doing. Yeah, that's our money. No, no, Ben, you're not getting you. That's our money. So I ask the people of Israel to save Israel, let alone the Palestinians. But to the people of America, that's our money.

They take it out of our checks every day. You go to work, a piece of that is going to go to Netanyahu and this far right government to kill more Palestinians. And now they want to send 14 billion more. And Ben Shapiro says, not only will you give me your money, you'll shut up while you're doing it. No, Ben, the anti-Semitic tropes are not true. You don't control this country. You don't control the world.

No, that's nonsense. It's not true. So I'm here to tell you you can F off. You don't control a goddamn thing. And I'll criticize Israel as much as I like. It's not my country. My country is America. And that's our money.

Our money. You don't get to say, you owe me the money. You give it to me and you're not allowed to complain. No, no, no, the anti-Semitic tropes are not right, you don't control the world, and hell no. And anybody who signs off and is right, it's not just Republicans, it's also the great majority of the Democratic Party. Anyone who signs that bill to send $14 billion extra for genocide and ethnic cleansing to Israel, it's a mark of shame on them and immorality they will never recover from. All right, we gotta take a break. When we come back, more stories, including hundreds of figures in Hollywood, pending

an open letter to basically denounce a Jewish filmmaker who was taken out of context. They know it, they don't care, they're gonna go after him anyway. That and more coming up, don't miss it. All right back on T.O.T.J. Anna and Draggar, thank you for joining. They hit the join button below. Anna. All right. Well, let's talk about Hollywood, intentionally taking someone out of context, knowing about it, and denouncing him anyway. So more than a thousand professionals in Hollywood have now signed an open letter to denouncing Jonathan Glazer's Oscar speech in which he spoke out against Israel's war on Gaza. Can't let that happen. Now, his film, the zone of interest, was literally centered on the

Holocaust and won Best International Film. And as he stood up to do his acceptance speech, he said something that really offended the sensitivities of some individuals in Hollywood. He said, quote. Our film shows where dehumanization leads at its worst. It shaped all of our past and present. Right now we stand here as men who refute their Jewishness and the Holocaust being hijacked by an occupation which has led to conflict for so many innocent people. The second half of that sentence is usually left out by his detractors. Nonetheless, he continues, whether the victims of October the 7th in Israel or the ongoing attack on Gaza, all the victims of this dehumanization. How do we, how do we resist? So he, it's very obvious what he's saying. Okay,

he's saying something that I wish all of humanity agreed with in that one group of people are not more valuable than another group of people. One group of civilians is not more valuable than another group of civilians. We should value all human lives. But unfortunately, we currently live in a culture, especially under the leadership of our current government, that makes it abundantly clear that the lives of some, Israeli civilians, way more important than the lives of Palestinians

who absolutely have been dehumanized, not just through this war, but for many, many decades. So that's what brings us to where we are today, where you have over 31,000 Palestinians slaughtered in the Gaza Strip, in response to the atrocities that Hamas committed in Israel, where 1,200 people were killed. And we're supposed to pretend like, no, no, no, there hasn't been enough bloodshed in Gaza yet. There needs to be more. I don't know how many lives need to die, how many lives need to be slaughtered in order to make things equal in the minds of some,

both in this country and in the Israeli government. But that's what we're dealing with here. So that quote was again repeatedly mischaracterized with people claiming that Glazer was denouncing his identity as a Jewish person, denouncing Judaism. So over a thousand members of Hollywood professionals signed this open letter saying we refute our Jewishness being hijacked for the purpose of drawing a moral equivalence between a Nazi regime that sought to exterminate a race of people and an Israeli nation that seeks to avert its own extermination. Extermination, come on. Can we just be realistic for a second? Just let. You have one side that has no protection, that's the Palestinian side, no protection.

No standing military, no U.S. backing. Then you have the Israeli side. Israel is an incredibly powerful country that has the backing of an even more powerful country, the United States, which will provide almost limitless military aid to Israel as it carries out the slaughter that they're carrying out right now in the Gaza Strip. They've got the Iron Dome to enhance their defense capabilities. What kind of defense capabilities do the Palestinians have exactly? So you want to talk about extermination.

You want to talk about extermination, Jank? Look guys, look, I know why it's happening. Although it's as a person not in the bubble, it is so frustrating to see. But I've got my own bubbles. So let me explain. When I recognized Armenian genocide, I had a lot of Turkish family and friends. who thought that it was a very immoral thing to do. Now if you're not Turkish or Armenia, you're confused by that, right?

Or if you're Armenian, you're livid about that, right? What do you mean? Recognizing the genocide that happened is the moral thing to do, right? No, they think you're betraying your own people, and it is deeply immoral to do that. And so they say, no, you should deny that it ever happened, and it doesn't matter, right? And so I give you that as an example

of otherwise wonderful moral people being blinded by their own perspective and bias. So I think the same thing is happening with these folks. They're not bad people. I even know a couple of names on the list. And they're generally good people. But they're so blinded by their bias that they see the gigantic military of Israel,

the gigantic military of the United States backing it up with the Palestinians with no military. and this tiny little rag tag group that, and they've built them up in their minds as the equivalent of the Nazis, as if they've got a, you know, they're going to do a blitzkrieg and they have jets and tanks and they're a disclosed exterminating Israel. No, no, no, you're not getting it. They have almost no power. Yes, they killed 1,200 people on October 7th, and that was horrible.

You're right to be outraged by that. Now are you saying that 31,000 in return is not enough? Now again, for God's sake, for one second, put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine if Hamas had killed 31,000 Israelis because Israel had killed 1,200 Palestinians and said 31,000 Israelis is not enough. We need to kill more, more and more. We need to push them into the desert. And we need to take their land, as Jared Kushner is saying today,

And Ben Gavira said, Smora, Sisa, Netanyahu says, we should never give them peace. We should occupy and imprison them forever. But they're the strong ones. They're the ones that have the power. They're the ones that might exterminate you. You're not getting it. You have the giant military. You have killed them, you as in Israel, has killed them 30 times, 30 times more than they have killed you.

During this war. During this war alone, let alone all the other times. Nope, they can't see it. They're like, yes, we're the victims, we have no power, we're almost all going to be wiped out. And besides which, our feelings are hurt. And if our feelings are hurt, this weighs, it matters so much more than the life of that baby in Gaza, that grandmother in Gaza. Oh, that uncle, he's probably a terrorist anyway. All the males are terrorists, okay?

So we should just kill more. We should kill more. We should go into Rafa. There's one and a half million people there. We should drive them out. They're starving. There's 1.1 million people starving right now. Who cares? Who cares? They're not Israelis. They're not worthy. That's Jonathan Glazer's point.

Please listen to the decent people in this country. No, we must crush them. So I guess congratulations with your open letter denouncing someone who actually happens to be a lovely human being who cares about the lives of all people, regardless of what their identity is. That's a big no-no, apparently. So. Look, I want to help. They're not going to believe that because his whole film was centered on the Holocaust. Okay, like, it is amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. Whatever, I just, you know. And they're gonna like, look. Man, masks off. Like, that's the thing that really, it's like the biggest black pill I've ever taken. How many people in our country,

the second they had the opportunity, took the masks off and were like gleefully cheering on what Israel is carrying out in Gaza. I just. So at one point, in the letter, they talked, about how even saying the word occupation is somehow wrong. Well, too bad, that's what it is, it's an occupation. Like, you don't think it's an occupation? You think the Palestinians have a state? Do they have, can they control their borders? Does it look like they can control their borders?

Does it look like they can control the West Bank or the Gaza Strip? They couldn't control their electricity, the flow of food and water into, into their land, into their region. That's not an occupation. Like, what do you think an occupation is? I don't understand. The people who sign this letter are so blinded that they think, oh, the Palestinians have all the power, all the power.

Oh, they get everything. And oh, the poor Israel, poor Israel, are you insane? The whole world thinks you're insane. Don't do it, because look at this. And all the anti-Semitic tropes are about how the Jews control the banks and the Hollywood and stuff. And I've said 2,000 times on the show, that's not remotely true. And what do you do?

You go and find a thousand people in Hollywood. That is not all of Hollywood, it's not even close. But you find a thousand people who say, oh, there's this Jewish guy who is wonderful and decent and moral and said never again, but he meant it about Palestinians. Punish him. No, don't do that. Don't do that.

What are you doing? You're hurting your own cause. Let the beautiful people who are trying to represent you in a moral way. Do it. Instead, this letter, it's a disaster. Good luck, good luck. Try to cancel everyone who's for saving innocent lives. Good luck.

Yeah, I bet that'll prove how moral you are. Oh, that you'll really get us. All right, we're gonna take a break. When we come back, we're gonna switch gears, talk about some other news, including Kathy Hockel embarrassing herself during her appearance on the view. All right, back on T.Y.T.

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Body parts were found all over Long Island. They had four suspects, they let them go, and now they're out there still. So what is the deal here? Right, right. Sounds insane to me. Sounds insane to me too. New York Governor Kathy Hokel was grilled about crime during her appearance on the view, and I loved seeing it, especially when she was asked to defend her intensely stupid idea of deploying

hundreds of National Guard troops into the subway system to keep people safe. Now, Hockel announced that she would be deploying 750 members of the National Guard and 250 state troopers to, and police officers in order to basically do random bag checks of people riding the subway. It's unsustainable, it's expensive, and it did nothing to keep New Yorkers safe. In fact, there was a shooting in the subway system just last week after she had already deployed the National Guard troops. Now, with that in mind, Bayhar weighs in with an interesting point that we'll get back to in just a second, mostly about certain tweaks that need to be made on the criminal justice reform that's been

passed in New York, but more importantly, what those flaws have led to. So with that in mind, let's watch some more of their conversation. You deployed hundreds of state police and national guard troops into the subway system. But since the pandemic, you have done a wonderful job. Overall crime is down in the city. Yes, it is. So my question to you is, why now, why deploy into the subway, and how do you respond to some of your fellow Democrats calling the move theatrics that play into Republican

narratives that blue cities are poorly run war zones? I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. My job is to keep you people safe. I have to keep any way I can, I'm going to keep New Yorkers safe. And I'll tell you who does show appreciation for the people out there on the streets. I've been walking the streets. I walk into business.

People are just saying, thank you for taking such. strong action. Now, the subways have been safer, but we had a spike recently, a 45% increase in subway crimes. Now, these are high-profile crimes. Can you interrupt you for a second? Because the CEO of the MTA says that 1% of subway suspects are responsible for more than 20% of the crime because of New York's bail reform laws, which allows them to go back out there and commit more crimes. Joy Behar is a thousand percent right. And rather than tweaking the bail reform in order to do something about a tiny group of people that's causing all this chaos on the subway system, Kathy Hockel has decided to instead basically use up all these resources

to do something that's ineffective and makes people uncomfortable, which was the deployment of National Guard troops. And just to give you some more information on what Behar was referencing there, MTA CEO John O Lieber said 38 people were arrested for crimes against. transit employees last year. And those suspects had over 600 prior arrests. Citing NYPD data, Lieber said 1% of subway suspects were responsible for well over 20% of the crime. There's also been some studies that have more data about this. For instance, the elimination of money, bail, increased recidivism for people charged with nonviolent felonies, with recent criminal history and with a recent violent felony arrest, and while it decreased recidivism

for people charged with misdemeanors and people with no recent criminal history. So there was a noted difference in how bail reform worked when it comes to recidivism. And by the way, this is a study that was done by John Jay College, their data collaborative for justice, and keep in mind, this is not some right-wing organization. These are the very people who have been pushing for criminal justice reform. And so they're studying what the impact of bail reform in New York has been, and they found that it has increased recidivism for certain people. The reduced use of bail for legally eligible cases tended to increase recidivism among

people charged with violent felonies and people with a recent arrest. The starkest and most consistent recidivism increases across both research designs were among people with a recent prior violent felony arrest and among people currently charged with violent felonies who had a recent criminal history. And so the same study, by the way, found that 67% of defendants who had a recent prior felony arrest in the past year and then were released with no cash bail were re-arrested within two years of their arraignment, almost half, 49% were re-arrested for a felony, and I should note again that this is data that's been collected by a group of people who absolutely love the bail reform and love the criminal

justice reform. It's just that they're doing their due diligence in keeping track of how it's actually played out for New Yorkers. Okay, so there's three, I think, easy fixes here, but it's so frustrating how slow and irrational our politics and our government is. Okay, so number Number one, in New York, and this needs to be fixed immediately, and this is not about any reform that happened recently, the judges cannot take the violence of the crime into account. They can only take into account whether the person is going to flee or not. But that makes no sense. So, okay, well, I don't think that serial killer is going to flee. He really likes, you know, Rochester.

Okay, so he's going to stay put, so I'm going to let him go back home. What? So in New York law, there's a, to be fair, serial killers probably is an exception, actually, because there's only a couple of super extreme crimes where they could take that into account. But other than that, you commit a very violent crime, and the judge is not allowed to consider it when he's looking at whether to give you bail or not. Can I give you an example? Actually, it's an extreme example that Joy Behar confronted Governor Hokel about, and it's in this next clip.

Let's watch that real quick, and I'll fill in the blanks. The CEO of the MTA says that 1% of subway suspects are responsible for more than 20% of the crime because of New York's bail reform laws, which allows them to go back out there and commit more crimes. But there was just a crime in Long Island where body parts were found all over Long Island. They had four suspects, they let them go. and now they're out there still. So what is the deal here? Right, right.

Sounds insane to me. Though the crime that was brought was not what was bail eligible. Yes, murder is. Yes, conspiracy to commit murder is. Yes, assault is bail eligible. All those are, and out of the DA is working really hard with the Suffolk County Police Department to build the case they need to build, bring the charges that are necessary. The charges he brought, he did not have enough evidence and time to hold them.

So you can't hold them? Not on the charges he brought. No, you have to have to have. level charges, they really weren't. We can work to make those bail eligible in the next session. Dismembring a corpse and hiding a corpse after dismembering it, not bail eligible, not a serious crime. I'm not even kidding guys, like when Joy Behar outlined that case, I was like, she's crazy. This isn't a thing.

This isn't real. This isn't real. So I looked it up. It's real, guys. It's real. Listen, if being on the left means supporting this, then I'm not on the left, and I'm okay with that. So let me give you the details of the case. It doesn't mean that. Okay, I don't know. Let me give you the details. We're all on the left. We don't want people dismembering folks getting released. Only a couple of lunatic.

Some do. Some do. I know. I was going to what I was in the middle of saying is only a couple lunatic activists are like, yeah, we're pro dismemberment guys being let go. Okay, whatever. You don't represent the left at all. At all. At all. It's so unfair to put them in prison. And okay, let me give you the details of the actual case, okay? So four people were arrested in New York after body parts were found in Long Island, okay, dismembered body parts. The victims were, you know, two people from Yonkers, older individuals. Suffolk County police, a 44-year-old Stephen Brown, 38-year-old Jeffrey Mackie,

40-year-old Amanda Wallace, and 33-year-old Alexis Neves, or Nieves, were charged with concealment of a corpse, tampering with physical evidence, and hindering prosecution, they have not been charged with murder. Prosecutors told a judge, there was so much blood in the pipes, in pipes, sink, shower, and toilet of the Railroad Avenue home in Amityville, where the suspects were arrested that it was deemed uninhabitable. Police said they confiscated meat cleavers, butcher knives, flesh, and body parts. Attorneys for Brown and Mackie admitted, admitted that their clients lived in that home where the body parts and all that blood was found, but denied

chopping up 59 year old, the 59 year old woman and 53 year old man whose last known address was in Yonkers. Wallace also lived with Brown and Mackey in Amityville. Police said that knives is homeless. Okay, all four pleaded not guilty. The judge released them without bail. They were fitted with GPS monitoring and must report for in person probation and surrender their passports. I don't care about their passports. Dude, guys, guys, like what, okay, so did further research because I just couldn't believe it. Here's more. With 2019 state reforms, mutilation and disposal of murdered corpses are

among crimes that are no longer bail eligible. The DA said the four went to barbaric lengths to cover the crime. What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing, Jank? Right, what are we doing? What are we doing? Someone tell me what the F are we doing? Yeah, look.

Yeah, look, yeah, look, no one signed up. No one signed up for this. I don't know how to hell any of these laws passed. I went to every progressive conference there was over the last 20 years. I never heard a single person saying, why don't we let the actual criminals go? Hey, if someone butcher someone and chops them up into little pieces, let's do the kind of criminal justice reform where they would be able to walk out free.

Yeah, come out me, come out me right now and tell me I'm the bad guy, because I want these people who dismembered corpses and tried to conceal the evidence in prison. come at me and tell me I'm the bad guy come at me I don't look I don't look guys insane you guys are insane anyone who thinks this is okay is insane and everyone else in New York has to suffer the consequences of this with random bag checks at the subway by National Guard troops at a time where we have the right wing which has lost its mind you're taking good people that would normally be on the left and drive them to and driving them to the right wing

with this madness and no one agreed to it. I don't mean the voters, I mean on the left, when did we have a vote? When did we decide in a primary or ballot measure that we should do any of this? I never once heard it at any progressive get together, any progressive, no one has ever proposed this. All of a sudden in 2019, these activists popped up in all these cities and they're like, okay, we know what, like- How did they succeed? I want to know. got massive funding.

So where the hell did the money come from? The left doesn't have money for anything. And all of a sudden that infinite money to finance lunatic activists who are saying, oh, let all the criminals go. Are you insane? So look guys, let's get back to what's happening in New York and explain to you what's rational and what is a

left-wing perspective as opposed to the lunatic perspective, okay? So in terms of the laws in New York about being able to consider violence or not in terms of bail. That has been around for a long time. But in 2019, as you partly saw in that graphic, they changed some of the laws, so they moved more crimes into nonviolent felonies.

But tons of those crimes are actually very, very violent. And Governor Hockel there mentioned assault. No, that's not true. A lot of forms of assault are now in the non-violent felony category, including domestic assault. An older subway rider, I mean, we did this story. I got in trouble for doing the story. People got real upset.

Woman waiting for the train, okay, gets hit on by some person who had been arrested like dozens and dozens of times, okay? She ignored his advances. He went and took a crap in his hand and smeared it on her face. He was booked and let out immediately. That is a violent assault. But who cares about the freedom or the safety or the lives of the law abiding citizens in New York, right? Who cares about their freedom?

Who cares about their safety? We have to be super concerned and have our bleeding hearts bleed out on behalf of people who smear crap on the faces of innocent people at the subway. So I just told you the domestic assault was taken off the list. So if you think that domestic violence, people who commit domestic violence should be free to leave and do it again, you are not a left winger and you are not a progressive. I don't know what you are, but you're definitely not a progressive. So I don't know where these people came from or what their ideology is, but it is not left wing or progressive to say, oh, domestic violence against women. Who cares? Just let them out. Maybe they'll do it again. Good luck to you. No, that is not a left wing. left wing position, not even closed, not within a million miles of close. Now, by the way,

does that mean that you go draconian and you go to the right wing solutions? No, like, for example, the guys that, that the people that were alleged to have chopped up those folks, should they get a fair trial? Of course. Of course they should get a fair trial. We're not saying, oh, just assume it, get rid of the criminal justice. Of course not. And in fact, in terms of cash bail, I think that they're for non-violent misdemeanors, it still makes sense that if you do it once, that you can get out without cash bail. But if you commit it twice, and there are now some jurisdictions that are passing these laws, good, which they definitely should.

But if you do it twice, then you lose the privilege of being let out of jail without putting up cash. So, because why? Because recidivists commit the great majority of crimes. So when they, when you let them out of jail without having to put up any cash, they view it as, well, literally get out of jail free card and a green light. They have, they've got no breaks in their system. So they go back and commit dozens of crimes. Let me give you another example. And so again, not a left wing or progressive perspective to say yes, they should be allowed to commit dozens of crimes against innocent people, almost all of whom are working class.

Let's go to graphic four. That's not justice, that's injustice. Let's go to graphic four. So this was published in 2020. As I was researching, I came across this headline. New York City subway thief thanks Democrats after his 139th arrest release. Bail reform, it's lit. Oh.

There's more, there's more. Let me give you more details. Charles Berry 56 has been arrested six times from January through February 17th of 2020. He's been released each time without having to post bail under New York's new bail reform law since his alleged offenses were nonviolent, the New York Daily News reported. In the, by the way, remember, they have reclassified violent crimes, some violent crimes as nonviolent crimes. So again, dismembering and concealing evidence of a corpse that you've dismembered, not considered

violent enough to have a judge set a bail so you don't, you know, leave the prison cell. But let me continue. So in the past, Barry several, served several stints in state prison and has a lengthy record, including six felony, 87 misdemeanors and 21 missed court hearings, the newspaper reported, citing court records. All right, let's go to the next one, more detail. 87. Okay, bail reform, it's lit, Barry yelled to reporters outside the NYPD Transit District One headquarters in the Columbus Circle station before officers transported him to Manhattan

Central booking. It's the Democrats, the Democrats know me, and the Republicans fear me, you can't touch me, I can't be stopped. Yeah, you're gonna turn the entire country into Republicans. Congratulations, lunatic activists. You must be so proud. I don't know where the hell you got all that money. But whoever gave you that money, I don't think they're on our side at all.

In fact, it would be a genius move by Republicans to take a bunch of lunatic activists, fund them to no end, so they could take away any semblance of sanity in our criminal laws, so that the entire country can blame Democrats for this kind of, of insanity. So yeah, so since, you know, New York is unwilling to reform its bail reform laws. New Yorkers enjoy your random bag checks by National Guard troops in the subway system. If you can't reform this law instantly, then the government doesn't function. I mean, if a guy who commits 239 crimes is allowed to walk out, the government doesn't function.

It doesn't serve its core purpose, protect the citizens. That's not a left wing thing, that's on a right wing thing. That's an every person thing. And if you like anarchy and nonstop criminals running rampant in the streets and being able to commit almost any crime and walk out, you're not on the political spectrum. You just lost your goddamn mind and I have no interest in you. So poof, be gone. All right.

We got to take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about another type of criminal, Peter Navarro, reporting to prison. I'm going to be I'm going to