The Young Turks - Loose Cannon

Episode Date: June 22, 2024

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Jake, or Jordan, Yule, Nina Turner, power panel for you guys. Senator Turner, great to have you back. All right, so. I was muted, good to be back. You know the funny thing is, Nina, I didn't say anything because I wasn't sure if you were muted or I put my eye being wrong. So anyways, all right, so let's get started.

A huge show ahead for you guys, developments in Trump's cases, and then developments unfortunately in Israel and here at home, what you're not allowed to say about Israel. Well, we're gonna say it later in the program, we'll see if there are consequences. Especially me as a Columbia alumni, apparently I'm not allowed to say a lot of things. So well, we'll see how that goes. Okay, let's get started with the Trump cases, Jordan, go ahead. Take a look at this. Ty, we're learning that two federal judges advised Cannon to step aside.

She rejected them. You hear others, though, Dave Ehrenberg, saying that this was, maybe all of this is more a matter of inexperience than anything else. What do you take away from this? I think with regard to Judge Cannon's, you know, behavior and her consistent rulings in Trump's favor, We're way beyond the point of, you know, characterizing or merely as inexperienced. Trump's former White House lawyer, Ticob, had some strong words for Judge Eileen Cannon, the Trump appointed judge overseeing his classified documents case in Florida. He made those comments yesterday shortly after it was revealed that Cannon was actually urged

to decline the case when it was randomly assigned to her last year, a suggestion that she rejected. According to reporting from the New York Times, shortly after Judge Eileen Cannon drew the assignment in June 2023 to oversee former President Donald Trump's classified documents case, two more experienced colleagues on the federal bench in Florida urged her to pass it up and hand it off to another jurist, according to two people briefed on the conversations. The judges who approached Judge Cannon, including the chief judge in the Southern District of Florida, Cecilia Altonga, each asked her, to consider whether it would be better if she were to decline the high profile case, allowing it to go to another judge, the two people said. But she wanted to keep the case, so she chose to ignore the advice of her more experienced colleagues. Remember, Canon's assignment as judge in this case got a lot of attention because she barely has any previous trial experience. Plus, she had previously shown unusual favor to Trump by intervening in a way that helps him in

the criminal investigation that led to his indictment, only to be reversed in a sharply critical rebuke by a conservative appeals court panel. She had barred investigators from gaining access to evidence recovered from the search of Mar-a-Lago. Judge Al-Tonga allegedly called Cannon and used that situation to argue it would be bad optics for her to oversee this trial. But now, Cannon is defiant and kept the case. She has indefinitely postponed The trial, even though both the prosecution and the defense had told her they could be ready to start this summer. Trump's lawyers had urged her to delay any trial until after the election, which she appears to be listening to. And if Trump wins in November, he could order the Justice Department to drop the case.

Today, Cannon is hearing far-fetched arguments that the appointment of special counsel Jack Smith to oversee the documents case was unconstitutional. It's an attempt by Trump's team to kill the case altogether. Ty Cobb ripped cannon apart for entertaining that argument and warned her to be careful before ruling in favor of Trump again. Take a look. This all comes down to a request by Trump's team. They want to get Jack Smith fire, get rid of him as special counsel, say it's in ballot in the Mar-a-Lago case. So what's really at stake here? The fact she doesn't deny most of these motions without a hearing is silly.

The fact that Trump can get a hearing, you know, on the flimsyest argument. is shocking. You know, the worst thing that could happen to her is that she actually does rule for Trump on this because that would go to the 11th Circuit. And then I think this, you know, petty partisan prima donna would be put in her place and they would remove her. Petty partisan, petty partisan prima don't say that three times fast. Jenk, what do you make of this case? I'm also against petty partisan Parmesan. Won't have it. Can't stand it. All right. So that's Taekhan. That's not a That's not only Trump's former lawyer at the White House, but that's obviously someone

who's been very, very conservative throughout his career. But like, I know, Maga, nothing counts, everybody's deep state. So look, let me make some statements that distinguish things, both us from mainstream media and MAGA, right? So are there things that where you go, okay, that seems weird? Merrick Garland, why did you wait two and a half a year so appointed special counsel for Trump? That's weird, very weird, you're not wrong to think that, right? So was Madison Cawthorne smeared?

Yes, Matt Gates we've talked about recently. We don't like them, but that ethics committee investigation is deeply political. It's happened to our side, Bernie Sanders, Nina Turner, myself, two out of the three of us here have experienced. Is that what's going on with Judge Cannon, where the deep state is stepping in and these judges are going, oh no, wait, don't, don't, you know, do anything about Trump and the other Trump appointed judges, Bush appointed judges keep overruling her? No, this is not deep state. This is not any conspiracy. This is just a judge who seems to be far too partisan. And her rulings, as I've told you, as she made them, I said, look, there's a lot of rulings where that go on Trump's side where I go, yeah, that makes sense.

There's some rulings that go against Trump where I go, I don't know that he should put up all the money while he's appealing his civil fraud case, right? So you've seen me be honest and fair about those things. Cannon is way outside the bounds. She's making crazy rulings that don't make any sense. And she's obviously delaying the trial until after the election. So super partisan, I don't know that there's a way to get her out of this. The other judges don't have purview as Cobb explained until she makes another absurd ruling. Then the 11th Circuit can step in.

But until then, she's in charge of this trial. And I don't think there's any way that it's going to happen before the election. That's my sense of it. Nina, what do you think? Yeah, I agree. I love that good alliteration, though. Who doesn't like the good alliteration? He did that. But no, I totally agree with what you're saying, Jink. It is obvious that Judge Cannon lacks something that is vital to being a jurist, and that's integrity. And she has no shame in her game because there probably won't be any consequences, but for her getting caught up as you just laid out a ruling and then another level of judges smacking her down. But nothing her tofore has seemed to be. to stop her crusade and she's doing it all out in the open. So I guess if there's any positive to this negative is she's being very transparent in her unbridled support for Donald J. Trump, this should not be on a bench.

I mean, if she wanted to be political like this, you should have run for Iran for another office. But when you're a jurist, this should not be the case. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I'm gonna give one more word to one of of our members, Art Guy wrote in with a really powerful point. And that's why we love doing the show with members at the join button below. Ty Cobb is evolving from a 19th century carney into Santa Claus. That should also be noted for the record.

That is true. Ty God, because he used to have like real old school suits with that same look. But now when you put on the flannel shirt, now we're entering Santa Claus territory. Look guys, we can have fun with the news, but and tell you the reality at the same time. Canon doesn't belong on this case, but she's on the case you can't remove her. That trial is pretty much dead. And look, my sense of it is if Trump loses, whoever wins is going to drop a lot of these cases. If it's Joe Biden and other Democrat, et cetera.

And then they're going to prove ironically that it was political, right? So I don't think these trials are going anywhere. And with Cannon leading this one, totally dead in the water. Yeah. important point jane we should not lose that point that you just made these cases are going to go away and it is going to prove what some people already believe is the case book club on monday jim on tuesday date night on wednesday out on the town on thursday

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Israel has warned the Lebanese government that the whole country, not just Hezbollah in the south, would suffer heavy damage in an Israeli bombardment. Hezbollah leader Hassan Asrallah says any deal to end the fighting with Israel is tied to a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and Gaza. Tensions between Israel and Lebanon's Iran-backed militant group, Hezbollah, seem to have reached a boiling point, with both sides now warning of an expanded war in the Middle East. Hezbollah is an ally of Hamas and has been exchanging strikes with Israel almost daily since the war in Gaza erupted on October 7th. Since then, Israeli strikes have killed more than 400 people in Lebanon, most of them, Hezbollah and other militants, but also over 80 civilians and non-convents.

combatants. In northern Israel, 16 soldiers and 11 civilians have been killed by strikes launched from Lebanon. More than 150,000 people have also been displaced from their homes. Hezbollah ramped up attacks after Israel expanded its offensive into Rafa in May and again in June after an Israeli strike killed high-ranking Hezbollah commander, Taleb Abdullah. Last week after Abdullah was killed, the group launched its largest attack since the war began, firing more more than 200 projectiles into Israel. No casualties were reported. Then tensions escalated. This Tuesday when a 10 minute long video allegedly filmed by Hezbollah surveillance drone was released. It shows strategic military and civilian sites in Israel, including parts of Haifa, which is a city far from the Israel-Lebanon border.

It was seen as a veiled threat to Israel not to escalate the conflict because a strike on Haifa would likely trigger an all-out war. In a speech on Wednesday, Hezbo's leader, Hassan Nasrallah said the group has much more footage and warned that there will be no safe place from our missiles and our drones if an all-out war breaks out. If the war is imposed, the resistance will fight without constraints, rules, or limits. He said that only a permanent ceasefire in Gaza would bring about peace. On Tuesday, the Israeli army said it has approved and validated plans for an offensive in Lebanon, although the decision to actually launch such an operation would have to come from the country's political leadership. Israel's military capabilities far outweigh Hezbollah's, but the group's arsenal has grown significantly in recent years.

The United States and Israel estimate the group along with other Lebanese militant factions has about 150,000 missiles and rockets. has been working on precision guided missiles. So we're looking at a wider war in the Middle East, potentially. But Genk, do you think diplomacy can affect the outcome here? Or is this inevitable? Look, I don't want to say anything is inevitable. And I don't know enough about internal Israeli political dynamic to be able to say that that it's definitely going to happen.

And we're going to have this giant war between Israel and Lebanon. And it's going to spread Iran. I can't say that definitively. Having said that, this is definitely headed in the wrong direction. There's no question about that. And so is it true that both sides are firing missiles at one another? Yes, has Hezbollah fired hundreds of missiles into Israel? Yes.

Has it hit a lot of people? No, because Israel has Iron Dome and great defense system. Does that make it less morally culpable? No, it doesn't, okay? It's still wrong to do that, no question. Now, has Israel killed? even more people on the other side with better bombs and bombs that have no protection against them. Yeah, of course, and you just saw the numbers. Israel is killed 480, Hezbollah

has killed 27. So now again, Hezbo doesn't get a pass. They're trying to kill more, they just can't, right? Now having said that, Israel also doesn't get a pass. So, but there's civilian to fight a ratio here is way better than it is in Gaza. So that's, I mean, silver lining in an otherwise super dark cloud, but at least they kill a lot less civilians here as, you know, compared to Hezbo fighters as Hamas to Palestinian ratio in Gaza, which is absolutely disaster. Okay, so the question is what's better for the world, for Lebanon, and for Israel, right? So those are the questions. For Lebanon, it's easy. This is going to be an epic disaster if this war starts.

Lebanon's going to be destroyed, and it's probably the humanitarian toll is going to be catastrophic. For the world, also easy. A terrible development. Not only does it make it a broader war in the Middle East already a disaster for everyone except bank speculators, oil companies, and defense contractors, and of course APEC. So but outside of them, everyone gets hurt, let alone if it jumps over to Iran, we're infinitely screwed. The Middle East is screwed. America's screwed. We're gonna, guaranteed we have to send soldiers, guaranteed we have to send billions, maybe trillions of dollars. Remember, we spent a couple

of trillion in Iraq. Iran is four times larger. And there's no way that a war starts and American politicians go, no, we won't take Israel's side, will be neutral. No, we will be forced to go on Israel's side and spend all of our blood and money and treasure for a war that doesn't need to happen at all that Nan Yahu is definitely trying to start. So now again, if you live in Washington, you're, you're likely a lunatic. And so you'll say things like, it's all Hezbollah's fault. They're dirty terrorists and they deserve to be killed. And all their leaders should be killed and all their leaders and all their fighters should be killed. But Israel should never be touched under any circumstances. Okay, if you want a war, you say unreasonable lunatic things like

that, right? The reality is Israel is killing Hezbollah's leaders. And then when Hezbollah fires back, they're like, oh my God, I did not expect that. Wink, now I have to bomb them even more. You see all the rockets they fired. Boom, I killed another leader. Now they fired even more rockets. Oh my God, it looks like I have to expand the war to stay in power, says Netanyahu. So does this help get to the final question? The only question that anyone in power cares about does this help Israel? And you have to scream it from the rooftops. No, it doesn't help Israel. If the whole point is a haven for Jews across the world so they could finally be safe and secure, why would you want to start a war with all of your neighbors? Like I get it.

You think in 1948 when you declared that half their land was yours, that you think they started the war. I get it. And Egypt, and then in 67 and 73, that Arab nations did start the wars, okay? But now you think that you, Israel, led by Netanyahu and this lunatic right-wing government starting wars all across the region with all of your neighbors is a good idea? Because I know, look, the propaganda is so thick that if you're talking to an Israeli supporter, they think we are the most innocent people on earth, on earth. We all, the only thing we do is respond.

I mean, these guys, they all hate us. They all hate us just because of who we are. Not because we've ever done anything wrong. We've never done anything wrong. It's just everybody hates the Jews. It's all they're all anti-Semites. We have to kill all the anti-Semites. How long is that gonna take?

How many countries do you have to bomb? How many wars do you have to start? Because if you say I bombed you and now I can't believe you hate Jews or Israel, so I'm gonna have to bomb you more. That logic is going to start. A ton of wars, and it's in the middle of doing it now. This war starts and it is an epic disaster for Israel. It's the only thing that actually endangers Israel.

What if Hezbo is right? I mean, I think they're full of crap, but what if they actually do have drones and missiles that could reach Haifa or Tel Aviv? What if they do have 100,000 soldiers and now maybe even more? And what if like Hamas, they find a way to breach the borders of Israel? And now you got fighters inside Israel? Oh, we're never gonna get out of that war. Israel is going to be devastated, Lebanon is going to be devastated, and America is going to be 100% screwed.

But the only people that can stop it are people who are pro-Israel, because if you're, if you criticize Israel in America, you have no power, zero. No one will listen to you at all, at all. So, and it doesn't matter where you go. Joe Biden, Donald Trump, RFK Jr., all of them say, I will never question Israel. I will do whatever I am ordered to do, and I will make sure that America will do anything that that lunatic right wing leader of Israel commands us to do. And if that hurts your feelings, I'm tired of your feelings. That's a stone cold fact, and we're all seeing it with our own eyes. They're spending $14 million against Jamal Bowman.

They spent $4 million against Nina Turner, our panelists here, an APAC- and APAC-related funds. And then they pretend, oh, no, no, you can't say it. I can spend the $14 million and say, I demand loyalty to Israel, which is a foreign nation. They can say that. And they can demand that. But if you say, can you please not demand that anti-Semite? No, no, I'm done with that.

I don't care. You're going to get us into a giant, giant war. And guess what it's going to do? It's going to drive up anti-Semitism across the world to catastrophic levels. Catastrophic. And that's the only way you can lose them. America, because after we spend a couple of trillion dollars and lose God knows how many thousands of American soldiers, do you think that the American population is still going to be pro-Israel?

I don't think so. I think they're going to be very, very anti-Israel. What are you doing? Why are you playing with this fire? All for the career of Benjamin Net and Yahoo, you'd have to be nuts to support that madman. Nina. Yeah, lunacy, Jane. I mean, look, I'm amen and I could have listened to you go on and on about this.

No good will come out of this. And this is what we need our viewers to understand. No good can come from expanding a war in the Middle East. Zero, nada, nothing, never. It just will not. And it will ultimately, you know, Reverend Dr. King once said, what affects one directly, affects us all indirectly. People who are directly wounded literally by this,

but then they're going to be the pains that are felt across the globe, Because of this, nobody, and I mean nobody will be unscathed. Another thing in science, for a reaction, there's an equal and opposite reaction. It doesn't make those reactions, right? Especially when it comes to killing innocent civilian or any innocent person at all. But, your point is well taken in that you do these things to people and then you expect them not to do anything back. That just does not make sense.

But for people who care about Israel, people who care about Israelis, people who care about the American Jewish population in this country, them expanding the Middle East war will not, will not go well for any of us, non-Jews included. It will be bad all the way around and it will be bad generationally. We cannot war our way to peace. And I don't understand what people can't understand and just the whole, the cavalier attitude of leadership. You know, even the Hezbollah leader, oh, you know, y'all do that. We're coming for you. Well, Israel will come for us as if there's not flesh and blood people, even people who signed up for the various militaries. People's physical lives are on the line and you got leaders who are comporting themselves worse than toddlers when it comes to, oh, we're just going to start bombing you.

Really? And if this expands, God forget, forbids to a WW3, oh, it's over for all of us. all of us. So now all of this is pretty personal now and you're right jink the american people are already saying enough is enough if in fact the united states is pulled into a protracted war in the middle east it is going to get even worse and it will be justifiable in how the american people are feeling how is it we got all this money for war making but we have no money to deal with the domestic needs of the american people right here right now After Israel wiped out a vast majority of Gaza's telecommunications infrastructure at a recent UN forum, Israel is now opposing a proposal aimed at rebuilding that infrastructure, claiming Palestinian connectivity was

a ready made weapon for Hamas, also stating that the original resolution would distort the reality of what's going on in Gaza and doesn't address how Hamas has used the internet to prepare acts of terror against Israeli civilians. One policy advisor with the digital rights group access now said based on this rationale, Gaza will never have internet. I mean, that was a vital conduit for people in Gaza to show the world the suffering that the IDF was in on them. These are civilians. These aren't Hamas militants.

Everyone uses the internet, sure, so to some degree Hamas is going to use it, of course. But we saw the horrors and devastation of this war from civilians. They are essentially begging for help on social media, showing the world. Please intervene, help us achieve peace. And now, Jank, they're Israel saying, no, we're not going to rebuild this telecommunications infrastructure that we destroy. Yeah, I mean, they level Gaza, 85% of Gaza is gone. of Gaza is gone. I mean, we have lunatics in Washington who say that it's Gaza's fault and that they

haven't done enough. We have to send them more money to destroy Gaza more, 15% is left. So they say, well, we can't build telecommunications, no internet, no communications, no nothing. They have to live in the Stone Ages forever. Because if any Palestinian has it, then Hamas has it. Well, does that logic apply to food and water? Well, actually, yes, right now, the reason why they're slowing down all humanitarian aid

into Gaza's, they're like, well, if the Palestinians have water, then Hamas will have water. So then we, so let's cut off all the water. And well, that they, you know, so they slow down the water and the food that got in and a whole bunch of people died from starvation. And so this is collective punishment. And but my favorite part of this, a favorite is a weird word to use in this case, but it's such an overwhelming hypocrisy that it's just mind bending. So they say, Now, we are going to block you having anything in Gaza that would allow you to live a normal life. But we don't occupy, guys. Like if you go on social media now and say Gaza's occupied, you'll get a slew of pro-Israel bots and trolls and maybe even some real people who are like, no, it's not occupied.

No, Gaza's perfectly free. I mean, do you have any idea how insane you sound? They're not allowed to have food and water unless we allow a tiny amount. They're not allowed to have electricity, we bomb the living crap out of it. And now they're not allowed to have any telecommunications, but we don't occupy it. Totally, totally free, not occupied. And the fact that it's not free, it's not our fault, it's Hamas's fault. Look, the next thing they'll say, and I'm afraid it'll be kind of be, might even be literal,

given that they suffocated them without the water and the food for a long time, and still to this moment. They might say, well, if we have oxygen in Gaza, then Hamas will get the oxygen. So we're going to have to cut off all of the oxygen. And by the way, though, we're not the bad guys. No. Occupying someone for 57 years, humiliating them daily, subjecting them to an overwhelming oppression, and then killing them at our leisure, whenever the hell we want, tens of thousands of their children and their women.

But we're the victims. We're the oppressed. because they're all dirty, dirty anti-Semites. So we had to kill them. Well, again, under this logic, you're going to have to kill a lot more people because the more you kill innocent children, the more you create what you think is anti-Semitism. And then the more people you have to kill. And it goes in round and round.

And then they go, I can't believe people are against Israel. I mean, all we're doing is saying you're not allowed to have anything. You live under our thumb. You'll never have anything because you're a dirty Palestinian who I have. you is all terrorists and I can't believe you guys are upset with me. Well look, man, you want to be a lunatic, that's your business. But now understand that if you're still supporting this kind of lunacy, you, to the rest of the world, I'm trying to help you, I'm your friend, I know you don't believe

I'm your friend. You're like, oh my God, this guy's telling the truth about Israel. Shut them up, shut them up, right? But I'm trying to help you, idiots, you're making the whole world hate you. But now you're gonna say no, nope, no electricity, no telecommunications, no internet for these, all these Palestinians, they're all guilty. I'm the good guy. I'm the most moral army.

No, you look like the biggest jackasses in the world. And again, if that hurts your feelings, take it up with Netanyahu. I'm not the one doing it. He's the one doing it. I'm the one reporting it accurately. No, I know, no. Israel is the greatest, most wonderful thing on earth. Guys, if you don't live in America, you have no idea how frustrating it is to live here.

and to have everyone in mainstream media and almost all of our politicians lie 24-7 and say the most absurd things you have ever heard and then say you're the bad guy for pointing out things that are true. All right, Nina. It's lunacy, Jank. I mean, one, the way to defeat Hamas, and might I remind our viewers that Netting Yahoo propped up Hamas, but I put that in the parking lot, the way to, defeat Hamas is to give self-determination and true liberation to Palestinians so that you

are not breeding hatred by which is coming because of the way the Palestinians have been treated for generations. I mean, that is what's going on here. So the true freedom for both Israelis and Palestinians comes by true self-determination, safety and security for Palestinians, safety and security for Israelis and Israel, that is the way to gain it. As short of that, we're going to be revisiting this type of situation, unfortunately, generation after generation, as we are right now, it's never going to go away until Palestinians have true self-determination. That doesn't make it right.

I mean, obviously, without a doubt, what Hamas did on October the 7th was rotten against international law, immoral, killing 1,200 innocent people, wounded. other since that day, this collective punishment that is going on is wrong, the starvation that is happening, the famine-like conditions. And we know that the international court has labeled what Israel has since done to the Palestinian people as genocide, as other leaders in some of these world organizations, going against international law. Our country is going against our own law, the foreign assistance act that the president is just

thumb in his nose at, that basically says once it is brought to an American president's attention that a country that we're supplying military aid to is blocking humanitarian aid, we must stop supplying them weapons. But we haven't done anything. So Jing, the answer to this, and Jordan, the answer to this lies in self-determination for the Palestinian people. That is ultimately how we protect Israel and Israelis. And to get rid of right wing leaders, Net Netanyahu, like Netanyahu, who's just pouring

gasoline literally on the fire. Yeah, well, actually, and how the tents burned in Rafa, that's again, very literal. So last quick thing here, guys, to Nina's point, there's actually an easy way out of this. You think there's no way there's an easy way. Yes, you just make a peace deal like you did with Egypt. And that worked, it worked for 40 straight years, 50 years. They haven't fired a single bomb from Egypt into Israel. It's provided the safe haven that you wanted.

You make the similar one with the Palestinians. You give them a fraction of the West Bank and Gaza Strip that they started with. And I know your leaders are lying to you. They say, oh, the Palestinians don't want a state. They'll never take a deal. They just want to kill us all. That's lunacy. It's totally untrue.

It's a complete and utter fabrication. Hamas has already even renounced their charter publicly. It doesn't matter what's in their goddamn. You always negotiate with your enemies, not your best friends. So that's the Egyptians hated the Israelis 10,000 times more. Anwar Sadat was killed because he made a peace deal with the Israelis. But it worked, peace deals work, and it could get not only the Palestinians, the state, but he could finally provide a safe haven for people inside Israel.

The people preventing it are not either pro-Israel or anti-Israel. The people preventing it are pro-war for their own political. own political purposes. And the current strategy is asinine. So they what they do is they go, okay, we're gonna get all of our people in America, whoever they can influence, whether there's politicians that they look flat out, bribed through campaign donations, media figures, and so whoever they can influence, right? They don't control everything, that's ridiculous.

But whatever influence they have, they say, okay, we're just gonna ban all criticism of Israel. Imagine if anyone else did that, like let's take my ethnicity. If they said to me, okay, we're going to ban all criticism of the Turkish government and Turks, and we're going to say it's anti-Turkish, and that's the most toxic word in the English language now, and you just can accuse anyone of being anti-Turkish, and they'll have to shut up forever, they'll get arrested if they do a protest of you, they'll be imprisoned, they'll be kicked out of college, you get carte blanche. You know what I would scream?

No, they'll hate us, they'll hate us, don't do that. So now, that's the strategy that they've got, okay, we have a very. great idea. We're just going to make America pay all of our bills. And then if anybody criticizes it, we're gonna tell them that they're shut up, you're canceled, you're fired, you're arrested. Well, if you did that to my ethnicity, I would be livid because that would mean that everyone else would hate us. That's obvious human nature. How can you be this blind and stupid? So please for God's sake make a peace deal. All right, we gotta take a break. We'll be back.

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Governor Newsom out in California, I agree with you. banned phones from the classroom. And now in Governor Hockel, I agree with you. When it comes to social media, algorithm websites, excuse me, social media sites like Instagram and TikTok, which is technically to be banned shortly anyway. It's time to keep them away from kids in New York. I can't believe I'm saying this.

She's now more popular with me. I mean, I don't really like her policies, but I like this one. I don't know. All right, we're gonna tell you the real reason why all of a sudden Fox News is agreeing with Democratic governors, they both want to shut down social media, but I think for a completely different reason. And I'm going to propose this poll. We'll put it up as a snap poll right now, looking

forward to your opinion on it. Should mainstream media have warning labels? Because they're thinking of doing warning labels, I think mainstream media is full of crap and lies to the American people 24-7. So I think it should have a warning label. And warning, you're about to watch CNN, they're definitely going to lie to you. You're warning, you're about to watch Fox News. They're definitely going to lie to you. So, okay, well, we'll discuss all night, but you can you start voting now. Jordan tell us the whole story. As you saw, Fox and friends were stunned to find out that they agreed with governors Gavin Newsom of California and Kathy Hochel of New York. Newsom wants the California legislature to ban smartphones in school classrooms and

Hokkael just signed a bill forcing social media companies to make their algorithms display content in chronological order only for children under 18. And they're not the only one's looking to regulate how children use social media apps. Vivek Murphy, who is the Surgeon General of the U.S., made the case in a New York Times op-ed on Monday, arguing that the mental health risks associated with social media platforms warrant the use of Surgeon General warning labels, similar to cigarettes. Murthy wrote, It is time to require a Surgeon General's warning on social media platforms stating that the social media is associated with a significant mental health

harms for adolescents, a surgeon general's warning label which requires congressional action would regularly remind parents and adolescents that social media has not been proved safe. Additionally, companies must be required to share all of their data on health effects with independent scientists and the public. Currently, they do not and allow independent safety audits while the platforms claim they are making their products safer. Americans need more than words. We need proof. He went on to draw parallels between social media and tobacco products, arguing warning labels will help change user behavior. Evidence from tobacco studies show that warning labels can increase awareness and change

behavior when asked if a warning from a surgeon general would prompt them to limit or monitor their children's social media use, 76% of people in one recent survey of Latino parents said yes. Now pressure has been mounting on tech giants to exercise more caution and oversight of what is on their platform and who sees it. In October, a coalition of 33 states sued META, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, over accusations that the company had misled the public about the mental health risks

for young people and teens. In 2021, a trove of internal documents obtained by the Wall Street Journal showed that meta at the time still operating under the name Facebook was aware of studies showing that Instagram use was linked to issues of anxiety, depression, body dysmorphia, and suicidal ideation, especially among teen girls. Jank, how do you feel about social media used with young people with knowing the risks that they deal with, knowing the symptoms and the effects that it has on their minds. Do you think it should have labels? Is this a good idea? Would this change anything?

Yeah. So two giant different issues here. One is why is mainstream media and politicians, why are they targeting social media? And the other is, should we do something about the actual deleterious effects of social media? So the real reason why mainstream media and politics care is because social media is in their minds producing a lot of progressive voters and they hate it. And if you're saying, wait, why would the Democrats hate that? No, Democratic leadership is very anti-progressive. They hate progressives 10,000 times more than they hate Republicans.

They actually largely agree with Republicans, donors should get everything they want. But these, and they'd get away with it, if it wasn't for these damn kids, right? These rascally kids like Scooby-Doo, right? And so, and they're all on social media and they're all saying that they're progressive and actually want universal health care and higher wages when they should be loving corporate rule. God damn them, they should go back to the propaganda outlets like CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. And so they won't listen to our propaganda anymore, we hate them.

Let's pretend that we're worried about depression and start banning them or labeling them, et cetera. I mean, look, Mitt Romney admitted it. He said when talking to Anthony Blinken, that he's like, Well, I'm surprised, Israel used to do really good propaganda. They're not good at it anymore. So we're banning TikTok because there's so many people against Israel on TikTok. He said it. He said it, okay?

And Blink was like, oh, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. So look, it's not just about Israel. It's just overall in politics. The Bernie Sanders wing of politics is first comes for the Democrats, then it comes for the Republicans. And they both hate it. So that's the real reason they're doing this. They're not worried about you or your kids at all, in my opinion.

Okay. So and so you think Hokka and Newsom want to run against strong progressives in primaries? No, they do not. They hate the progressives. So anyways, but does social media actually cause the harm that they're talking about? Yes. So then that puts us in a tough spot. We don't want to say, oh yeah, let's ban it. And everybody must watch CNN and love corporate rule, right? And that's your only option besides which even if you tried it, it wouldn't work. It wouldn't work. Even if we've all the social media, other countries would have social media. And then we'd become like Iran, okay, who do we ban? How do we stop it?

Don't let the information get in. Tell them corporations are good, they don't need healthcare. They should have the crappiest wages and the executives should make 2,000 times, two million times more than them. Social media block them, but it's not gonna work, it's not gonna work. So we have to have a smart strategy for dealing with the actual issues, psychological issues, the sociological issues that things like Instagram are creating. And if we're worried about social media,

the number one cause of concern should be Instagram. And instead of Instagram, we're talking about TikTok, we're talking about YouTube, why? A lot of this propaganda, as we showed you in an earlier show, is funded by Facebook. So in the beginning, it was mainstream media that we're attacking all social media, because it's their competitor.

They never clarify, that's our competitor. And we're getting our ass handed to us by them. They all pretend, oh, we are genuinely concerned. They are doing things that will affect you. your kids. How about you guys? Are you doing propaganda that might affect our kids? Or you're just bummed, it's not working anymore.

But if you're concerned, yeah, Instagram is driving kids to compare themselves to the most attracted people in the world. And they don't even look like that. It's a, it's their fake image, right? And even if they did, yes, there's eight billion people on the planet. Some are going to be way hotter than you, right? But nobody ever tells the kids that. Some of them are going to be richer than you.

Some of them, but we used to have a village where there'd be one rich person or couple of really attracted people, et cetera, or a couple of successful people, and we could live with it. Now we see example after example. We all live in this global village where it's rubbed in our face 24-7. That person is better than you. That person is better than you. You got it, and there is one answer that I know for sure. In terms of what the government should do, I'm scared to death of the government touching this at all. They're almost, in situations like this, when you have entrenched power, they usually make it worse, right? But one thing I'm going to ask all of you to do as parents, talk to your kids and don't talk to them in goofy ways.

When I showed him that Fox News clip, I didn't show to him. My 13-year-old son was about turn 14, happened to be at the same table as I was getting ready for the show and I was listening to that clip. And when they said, oh, well, you know, at the end, kill me to that, in that segment, the kill me says, well, you know, you should tell your kids that it's something like it's shameful and you should stay off of social media. And pro literally laughed out loud like he startled me. Like that's gonna work. Oh, oh yeah, don't go on social media. No, you have to have a real conversation with them.

Guys, a lot of these people aren't real, even if they're real. That's not what you should compare yourself to. Here should be, like talk about what their life goals should be, what their aspirations should be that aren't just about material success, aren't just about looking better and being richer and all these things. The hard work of parenting, Nina, what do you think? Yeah, the merit and what's the merit. What the Surgeon General is trying to do is spot on.

I mean, brain development studies show clearly that that type of development happens at the age or well after the age of 25. And so when you have young people who are born into this, I mean, we have whole generations that this technology existed the moment that they were born. This is all they know. And your point is spot on about the difference between the political rationale for wanting to do away with social media apps. social media altogether, and then the merit that is linked to some of the health concerns

about what it does to the mental stability of younger people, especially as they mature. And the stage that they are in, parents are absolutely the key. It is not the government on this. Now that doesn't mean that there should not be regulations to protect us, not just go after TikTok, but go after all the social media platforms to make sure that they are following the best practices to protect us as American people and do more to try to protect younger folks. But ultimately, the diet for social media has to be controlled by parents, just like anything else. We could say the same thing.

I mean, 50 years ago or 20 years ago, it was just the television. You know, how much TV should children watch? There are studies out there that says that if children watch too much TV, it can have a detrimental effect. Now that we're in the age of social media, you just quadruple those impacts. So what influences, what stimuli are we allowing our children to take in? The first, second, third, fourth, and fifth line of defense is parents and community. Yeah, I'm gonna add the last things here because I gotta give you the poll results. But we start Operation Joy here because we're trying to be proactive.

You know, there's a lot of things that are depressing in media overall and in social media. So one of the things that I emphasize in Operation Joy, it's the thing we do for our members, on Tuesdays in the bonus episode is stop judging yourself so harshly and stop letting everyone else judge you because we're judging ourselves into oblivion. Oh my God, I'm not as good as this. Oh, I made a mistake. Oh, you made a mistake. Did you? Welcome to humanity. We all make mistakes. We all make hundreds of mistakes, thousands of mistakes in our lives. Stop beating yourself up so much. So if you see something going wrong in the world, be proactive in putting out the opposite message, right?

So there are healthy, constructive ways to tackle this without bans and warnings that are never going to work. They're going to make it feel like it's cooler to participate in this. Super last thing on the content is on that Fox segment, they were talking about, oh, I think it's a good idea to have, like, you know, internet, social media free zones around schools. These are the same guys that said, oh, yeah, got free zones around schools. That'll never work.

Now they're like, oh, social media, it's way more dangerous than guns. It gets people to vote against us. Make sure it's banned everywhere. Oh, so it does work. You just don't want guns banned. You want social media banned. Okay, so note for the record. Now, what did you guys think?

How about social mainstream media having warning labels? I love the Twitch audience. 96% yes. 4% no. The YouTube chat poll, 7921. You get it on t.com, 8317. I mean, everybody agrees. Yeah, the number one warning label should come with the propaganda of mainstream media.

That's gonna tell you that politicians are honest and the millions of dollars that they took to serve large and corporate donors. Doesn't affect them at all. They're just having principal debates. I mean, you gotta give people a warning. This is propaganda. It's not actual news. Okay, we gotta go. We'll come right back.

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Gabby Mathis and Jesse Gifted Five, you guys are amazing. We appreciate you. All right, Jordan. Watch this. RFK says the CIA killed his uncle. Do you believe that? Well, this wasn't CIA that asked me, but I think CIA was probably behind it. On yesterday's installment of the All In podcast, Donald Trump stated that he believes the CIA most likely assassinated JFK. We'll get to a little bit more of his response in a minute. But we should note that the topic came up when one of the shows hosts, Chimoth Palapalia, asked Trump why he did not release the full JFK files despite previously promising he would. Let's see how Trump responded. Take a look. I actually did do it. I released a lot, as you know. But when it came to the

whole thing, I was hit by some people that worked for me that are great people that you would respect. And they asked me not to do it. And I'm saying, why? Tell me why. And they said, sir, I think it needs a little more time. And I released a lot, but I said, if they feel so strongly, I respect the people and would have done that again. But this time, I'm just going to do it. Now, let's see Trump's response and explanation of whether or not he thinks the CIA actually killed JFK. Well, this wasn't CIA that asked me, but I think CIA was probably behind it. But they didn't, they would have preferred that I'd not release the rest of it. So we did give quite a bit, it's going to be done early on.

A lot of people want to see that. And whatever it may say, I won't say, I sort of have an idea. But whatever it is, it'll be very interesting for people to see. And we're going to have to learn from it. Promise us you'll come back again. You know, there are other things we're going to release too. We're going to release. What else do you got?

We'll talk to you about it off camera. Aliens? Jake, is this just him saying what they want to hear, or is there something there? Did he accidentally spill the beans? Yeah, so I don't think he's seen any file for a couple of reasons. Number one, he doesn't read. But fine, someone could read it to him. I get it.

But that's that's a tiny reason. The real reason, guys, is look at the two things that he said. He said, CIA was probably behind it. Well, brother, if you saw the file, you know it's either definite or not definite. What's the probably part? And then he said, and now whatever it might be, I have an idea. You have an idea of what it is. I thought you just said you read the file and made a decision not to release it.

He didn't read no file, okay? And here's the even bigger reason. Donald Trump has a terminal case of verbal diarrhea. There isn't anything that is in his head that he wouldn't say out loud. So that's why he says outrageous things like I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, right? And I don't want poor people in my government. I only want rich people. I mean, he says all these crazy things that are just off the top of his head, let alone a thousand other one.

So if he knew who killed JFK, he'd say it in a second. He'd be like, no, look, I'm not supposed to say, but it was about power. Bob Power, I know it. I saw the field, you know, CIA, plus every, I got it. He would, there's no way he would stop. He didn't, so he hasn't seen any file at all. He, remember, he's not at all intellectually curious. There's only one thing that's going through

Trump's mind at all times. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump. And JFK is not named Trump. So he didn't bother looking at it. He doesn't know what's in it. By the way, did the CIA kill JFK? A portion of the CIA working with ex-CIA

almost definitely killed JFK. It's called The Devil's Chess Board. There's one of many great books about it. But if you read that, it is clear as day what happened with overwhelming evidence. If you think that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK, you believe in a crazy conspiracy theory. Okay, so, but I actually read several books about it with the actual evidence. You think Trump read any books or that file? So don't listen to what Trump is saying.

And he's not going to release it either. He always has a lot of BS promises and then never releases a goddamn thing. Nina, what do you think? Oh, Jake, I'm cracking the hell up here. Well, first of all, you stole my thunder because I was going to say, we know Trump ain't read that. I mean, what did he say? Whatever it says, I can't say. Well, the reason why Donald J. Trump cannot say is because he read the thing.

So, you know, this is just Trump doing Trump. This is what he does, he lies. I mean, he said he was going to release, and then he didn't release, and now he's blaming it on other people. this is what he specializes in. So can't trust the word, most words, I won't say anything, but most words that comes out of that man's mouth and jink, listen, you stole my thunder on that one, baby. We know he didn't read it and if he did know, we would all know.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, he accidentally even admitted the other day that he lost the election. Right, because he just says what says, I mean, when I lost the election, oh right, we're pretending I won the election, what I mean when I won the election, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean. When it was stolen from me. Yeah, it was, you little baby, isn't it? Okay. So we'll read that file later.

Okay, look, he trumps an amazing guy because if I was the president, I think they're all amazing in a sense. If I was the president, first thing I'd read is the JFK file. Then I'd read the alien file. Okay, and why, it's, yeah, I got an important business. I'm going to do that too, but aren't you curious? Are you curious? But Trump isn't curious because the only thing going through his head is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.

Trump, Trump. Yeah. Jank, it's like Mr. Smith in the first major, you know, me, me, me, me, me, me. I mean, he is the real life Mr. Smith. Yeah, totally. I can't believe that half the countries follow this guy. Fine, 35, 40%, whatever. He's entertaining.

He is entertaining. He is entertaining. Yeah, that I get totally. As Anna says all the time, he'd be the best insult comic in the country. If he just dropped out of politics and did that, I'd go pay for the show. Because he says hilarious things all the time. Like, oh, I know who did it. CIA was probably behind it. Yeah, think, Mr. President, there's some bread crumbs. I mean, what are you using to make that analysis. Yeah, hilarious.

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We appreciate it. Thank you. Yep. And when we come back, guys, Colombia has banned criticizing Israel, and every freshman entering has to pledge to not say anything against Zionism. I don't know if they'll be thrown off campus if they don't, if they violate the pledge. But that seems like a great idea. I bet it won't drive up anti-semitism. I bet everybody will be thrilled that they're not allowed to criticize one and only one country.

I think this is going to work out great for them. Let's come back and talk about it. I don't know. You know, I'm going to be. I don't know. I don't know.