The Young Turks - MAGA Revolt Begins - June 16, 2025

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right. ahead for you guys. Jake Huger, Sharon Reed with you guys. Sharon is on Rebel Headquarters. You know that.

All right, so we've got war. We're gonna give you a lot of updates about the war. We've got what's happening on the ground. Then we've got MAGA reaction. We've got Tim Dillon reaction. We've got reaction on top of reaction. We've got the neo-cons. We've got all the infighting.

A couple of elbows off the top rope on Trump's head, on Israel's head. So a lot has happened. since we last saw you on Friday night. So obviously keep up with us in every way. I'm doing a lot more shorts these days on YouTube, more lives, et cetera. And we're going to ask you this a couple times throughout the show. We got it on t.yt.com, and it's going to relate to one of the stories in this first hour. Do you believe that Magna is truly rebelling against Trump and the war?

Okay, so that's on t.yt.com. A, no, they actually want war. B, no, they're against the war, but none of them are rebelling. see, yes, they are anti-war and are pushing Trump not to get involved. So we're going to give you facts on that throughout the show. We want you voting on t-y-t.com. Curse what you all think. All right.

Sharon, let's get started. All right, we'll begin, as you said, several updates on Iran and Israel. Watch this. Not far from Tel Aviv in the city of Petitivah, at least four Israelis were killed after a missile. slammed into this building, bringing the number of deaths since last week to at least 24. But the toll Israel has inflicted on Iran is far higher. 224 killed, including women and children, as well as the ongoing assassination of top military commanders and nuclear scientists.

So there you have it. Four days after Israel launched an offensive war against Iran, the violence continues. Donald Trump is hinting at the United States getting more involved in the war that Israel started here. So Jen, before we get to more details, weigh in. Yeah. So I said as Israel was starting this war, that they would pretend to be the victims, even though they clearly struck first. Clearly it's a so-called preemptive war. But as then Yahoo admitted over the weekend, actually not preemptive. It turns out they were a long way away from having any kind of nuclear weapon, as we suspected. But Nanyahu even admitted it. So we're going to give those details to you guys in a little bit.

And so what's happening now is amazing because we've got a war both between Israel and Iran, but we've got a war at home in America for who's going to be able to affect Donald Trump's decision on whether to go further. Because is America involved in this war? Absolutely in ways that we're about to explain now. All right, so let's go there to catch you up on what's happened over the past few days. Here it is. Israel attacked Iran State television station in the middle of a broadcast, pretty explosive to watch to Iran residents attempting to flee the capital in search of safety. The centrifuges housed underground at a key Iranian nuclear facility remain intact at this hour. It's likely that only the U.S. has the weapons required to damage that site.

So watching that closely. Meantime, Iran struck an Israeli oil refinery overnight and damaged part of the power grid. Residential buildings were hit in and around Tel Aviv, killing at least 24 so far. So things are escalating. Since Israel launched its attack early Friday morning, the U.S. has provided defensive support to Israel, intercepting Iranian strikes. So far, we've stopped short of joining the offensive campaigns, but on Sunday, here's what President Donald Trump told ABC News. We're not involved in it. It's possible we could get involved, but we are not at this moment involved.

Sources familiar with the matter say. Israel has spoken with the U.S. about possibly increasing a level of involvement, United States level of involvement, though one Israeli official cautioned, those conversations have not yet included practical discussions of the finer details. CNN with that reporting, and while Trump hopes to avoid a prolonged conflict

that could further destabilize the Middle East, some in the administration recognize that American military assistance may help, rather, Israel conclude its objectives more quickly, according to the sources. So all of that seems to signal that it's incredibly likely we will get more involved in this offensive campaign. Plus Donald Trump is doubling down on his claim that Israel attacking Iran will actually help move nuclear negotiations forward, asked if there's a deadline for Iran to come to the table. Trump told ABC this. No, there's no

deadline, but they are talking. They'd like to make a deal. They're talking. They continue to talk. Something like this had to happen because I think even from both sides, but something like this had to happen. They want to talk. They want, they will be rather talking. May have forced a deal to go quicker, actually, as the president talking to ABC. Now, the only sign Trump's trying to keep Netanyahu in check is that according to two sources, He opposed an Israeli plan to kill Iran's supreme leader. But during an ABC news interview this morning, Netanyahu suggested that is still on the table, hilariously claiming that his attack on Iran is actually preventing war.

Listen to this. U.S. officials tell us that the president flatly rejected a plan, an opportunity that you, that the Israelis had to take out the Supreme Leader. Do you understand his concern? My understanding is his concern is that this would escalate the conflict beyond where it is already. It's not going to escalate the conflict. It's going to end the conflict. We've had half a century of conflict spread by this regime that terrorizes everyone in the Middle East, has bombed the Aramco oil fields in Saudi Arabia, is spreading terrorism and subversion and sabotage everywhere. The forever war is what Iran wants. And they're bringing us to the brink of nuclear war.

In fact, what Israel is doing is preventing this, bringing an end to this aggression. And we can only do so by standing up to the forces of evil. So are you going to target the Supreme Leader? Look, we're doing what we need to do. I'm not going to get into the details. All right, so there's Netanyahu, Jenk. I want to know, I mean, it's unfair to ask, but where you think this thing is going? Our involvement, the United States getting in deeper, will the Supreme Leader of Iran be targeted?

And also why it seems the more the president talks, the less we learn. It's just a lot of double speak. Yeah, so I want to start with that in Yahoo and break down what he just said because it was amazing. And then I want to get back into their plan all along because it turns out they couldn't, they never had a chance of taking out the nuclear facilities. They can't do it without us. They're now admitting that. So we're going to come back to that in a second. So Netanyahu in this clip says, oh, we're just trying to stop the aggressive wars as he literally just launched an aggressive war. Everything he says is projection. He says Iran terrorizes everyone else in the Middle East. No, that's literally what Israel does.

They've attacked Iran, Syria, Lebanon. They've also attacked Yemen. They've certainly destroyed, leveled Gaza. They're driving people. out of their homes and killing them in the West Bank. They've attacked almost all of their neighbors and they terrorize all of their neighbors. So Iran didn't do any of that. Israel did that, okay? Then he talks about, oh, they keep constantly doing sabotage in the Middle East. Oh, you mean like pagers blowing up? I mean, sabotage. Are you kidding me? I mean, he's almost trying to rub it in your face.

Like, I'm telling you all the things we do and pretend it's Iran. Now watch, I'll get the American media to play along. It'll be hilarious. And the American media does play along. I'll get back to that too. So but the most important part connects these two things that the two major issues I brought up. Because Trump says don't take out Ayatollah. Now they already took out the top negotiator for Iran, They're like, get back to the negotiating table.

With who? You murdered their negotiator? Okay, they took out one of the top politicians. They took out the three top military commanders, but they left Ayatollah. So, and I'm, now the thing that really got me, guys, was, like the war starts 24, 48 hours later, Israeli officials keep popping up all over. Yov Galant, their former defense minister, et cetera, saying, oh, well, obviously we can't, destroy their nuclear facilities, America has to do that for us. And they have a quote unquote

obligation to do it. No, we don't. So you start this war knowing that you can't achieve your stated objective because you think, well, America's my dog. So I'll have him come fetch. I'll start a war that I know I can't win based on my own defined victory, which is ending their nuclear program, destroying all their nuclear facilities. I know only America can, but my plan is to drag in the sucker Americans to pay for this war, to carry out this war, to have your soldiers die, your airmen die. No, no, you die for Israel. That was their plan all along because they're admitting it now.

We can't take out their nuclear facilities. Then what did you start it for? There is a second option. That brings us back to the Ayatollah. Why did Trump veto it? But then Yahoo's obviously jonesing to do it and you could tell in that interview. Because this is about regime change, just like Iraq. Why do they want the regime changed?

Just like in Iraq, where by the way, we are. But to be fair, we had all this evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Oh, it turned out to be fake. And you know where we got that evidence? Israel. Oh, isn't that funny? And whenever you ask, hey, how is Israel our special ally? You know, we've given them $311 million.

What have they given us? They go, oh, we give you great intelligence. Do you? Do you? So now they want to do a regime change because before the Iraq war, Israeli prime minister said Iraq's are number one enemy. Now they say Iran's our number one enemy. Not ours as in America, not even close. They mean ours is in Israel.

So apparently America has an obligation to constantly take out their top enemy in the Middle East so they can continue terrorizing the Middle East. Apparently we have that obligation. We spent several trillion dollars doing that in Iraq on behalf of Israel. What did America get out of it? Now everybody agrees the right wing, the left wing agrees. Zero. We got nothing out of. We got a bunch of dead soldiers coming home in coffins.

But don't worry, the IDF didn't have to fight that war. So now they tell us, now we're going to do a regime change in Iran. Why? Because then if we do that, we're going to be greeted as liberators. I mean, seriously, seriously, after the Iraq war, you're going back to this sack of crap? You saw him in that interview. He said, well, once the Ayatollah's taken out, you know, everything's going to be solved. Yeah, because the Iranian people, and they say this was a straight face. I was on Pierce morning this morning debating a bunch of these clowns, okay?

They go, no, then the Iranian people will welcome us. Of course, when you drop a bomb on somebody's family, they say, come on in. Please run our country too. We would love it. No, us fight you, no way. No, we'll just surrender right away. So all of this is obvious propaganda. So Sharon, what's happening now is amazing.

Because as we're going to talk about a little bit later in the show, Mag is an open revolt. The libertarians have already left the bill. And there's now memes around libertarians and progressives clasping hands in the anti-war movement. We're done with this, right? And of course, what is the answer that Israel supporters have for all of us, all of the American voters who don't want this?

Anti-Semites. All of America's anti-Semites, and if we don't want to be called anti-Semites, we better give them another $300 billion. We'd better spend another couple of trillion dollars on another war. We better take out all of their enemies. We better do all of their bidding. Otherwise, congratulations, right wing and libertarians. You're now all anti-Semites.

So man, they keep messing around to put it politely. And politically here in America, Sharon, I believe they're about to find out. Yeah, I think you're right. And we'll move on, but I just another quick follow-up here. With Israel seemingly puppeting the Trump administration, is there? And you have the president, of course, who is the ultimate back and forth guy. Is there enough talent, though, to keep us out of this escalation here? Or do you see it as inevitable?

Well, the problem is that over 300 members of Congress, that is the overwhelming majority of the House of Representatives, are funded by APEC. So now, mainstream media, there's two hilarious things. One is they're like, no, I don't see it. Even though APEC was the number one donor in this election cycle, they're like, no, I don't see it. Not only do I not see it. And number two, politicians are angels. They're so moral, they would never be affected by the millions of dollars Apex giving them. I mean, these are reporters saying this.

I mean, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be absolutely riotously funny, right? Okay, and number three, if you mention the fact that A-PAC is the number one donor and that politicians might be affected by millions of dollars, anti-Semite. Okay, so congratulations America. Everyone outside of the politicians that A-PAC bought in Congress, which is the great majority of them, and Joe Biden and Donald Trump, the rest of us are all anti-Semites. So we better hurry up and bow our heads to that foreign government. And otherwise, we're all bigots and racist. I mean, I mean, that's what the people in media tell me. That's what the politicians tell me.

Okay, so one more thing about the media. I wrote on social media, you know, at Jen, you're on X. I said, look, I'll have predicted ahead of time for you guys. What they're gonna do is, and this was like as soon as the war started, I said this. They will ignore the civilians killed in Iraq. And it took me a couple of days to find an article that finally said, oh, right, by the way, of the people killed in the Israeli attack were civilians, over 200 dead civilians, women and children, right? But for the first like 48 hours, no talk of civilian deaths among the

Iran. Do you see cable news covering a lot of civilian deaths in Iran? Nothing, zero, zero, right? We should, we had to go like abroad to find that clip for you, okay? And there's a couple of places, right? But American media, no. But the minute an Israeli house got hit, oh, oh, Israel is the victims. Let's get put a camera in front of this person's face. And now mind you, that person is a victim of war. And I don't want that. I don't want any civilians getting hurt. I don't want any houses getting knocked down. At the same time, if you're an Israeli support, first of all, you're never going to acknowledge anything. But if you're a rational human being, you would have to say like, wait, that person is complaining about their house being

knocked down. Can I get one reporter to ask, have you seen Gaza? Have you seen Gaza? Or All of the houses are knocked out, and you did that. And you didn't seem to have any problem with that. But one house or two, a couple of houses in Tel Aviva are knocked down. Oh, the victim, we're victims. I mean, we just started a war. And now two of their missiles got through. How dare they?

How dare they fight back? People should know when they're conquered. Plus, let's murder their leader, take over their government. I mean, we're not going to do it. America, you do it and you pay for it. No, no, this is wearing super thin. Mainstream media has no credibility anymore as they tell us that the guys who started the war are doing it for self-defense.

I mean, and look, I'm not saying this as an analogy. You take it for whatever you like. But literally every aggressor in the history of the world has said that they were doing it for self-defense. Even the Germans said that they had to defend fellow Germans in the Sudetenland. It was for self-defense. Otherwise, they were going to get attacked. They said the same thing about Poland.

They said the same thing about every country they attacked. He said, it was a preemptive war. We had to do it for self-defense. And so here we are with Israel saying the same thing. Now, you could choose to believe them if you're a sucker or you're blinded by bias. But the rest of us have had enough. And as usual, if you want to know the actual facts, yes, Israel has killed 10 times the number of civilians in Iran as Iran has killed Israelis. You'll probably never hear that in mainstream media, but that's a fact and you can go look it up.

Soccer, bias I would throw in perhaps fear of proof telling. We'll take a quick social break and get right back with you. All right on TYTJJ is sharing with you guys. Sharon, what's next? Comedian Tim Dillon has a lot to say. Jank, take a look at this. I didn't realize how grateful I needed to be. to Israel for this.

I didn't realize how much it was in my interest that the government of a Middle Eastern country I've never been to and has very little effect of my life get decapitated and replaced

with another government. I want to thank Israel for this. Is Iran the reason for any of this? Is Iran the reason the corporations in America just pillage and leave the trail of death and destruction in their way? Is Iran the reason we have no health care?

I mean, this is the most sustaining I've ever heard. That's comedian Tim Dillon going scorched earth on Israel and Warhawks in the media who are advocating for the United States to get involved in an all-out war with Iran. We'll hear more of his spice he takes in just a minute, Jenk, but initial thoughts here. Yeah, thank God for guys like Tom Dillon. If that hurts your feelings, I couldn't care less. So what we needed in this country was independent media. And so what we had was mainstream media and it was a prison. It was an absolute prison or you couldn't get any opinion out that wasn't sanctioned by the special interests in Washington.

Now there's a prison break and we're in the populist woods. So now Tim Dillon and guys like him supported Trump, but there's nothing tying him financially or otherwise to Trump or anyone else. So they're saying, that's it. I'm going to tell you the truth. And I don't work for established media. I don't need to lie to you. I don't have any sponsors that demand that I lied to you. I don't have any special interests that demand that I lied to you.

So I'm going to tell you the truth. The truth is we don't need to be in this war at all. Israel is trying to drag us into this war. And now how are they going to shut up all the independent media? Okay, now you've got to shut up the young Turks, which they've been trying to do for 20-some odd years. Then you've got to go shut up Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon and Andrew Schultz and Charlemagne. It's hard to shut all these people up.

Especially if you pretended that you were in favor of free speech, you were against cancel culture, and you were anti-war. So Donald Trump is in a lot of trouble because he is violating every single court tenant that he promised to his own voters. So let's give you a lot more of this and you see where it's coming from. Yeah, Dylan focused his anti-war argument on the fact that people here in the United States have more pressing things to worry about than Iran's nuclear program. your own society is declining perpetually year after year annually things get worse people are fleeing and you're out there saying the most important thing to the British working class or the American working class is that the Iranian regime is decapitated with Israeli airstrikes Is it can you imagine knocking on the door of a double wide trailer and grabbing a person who was five months away from being homeless in our country and asking them their biggest problem how how do you think the word Iran is going to come up much how do we get in this position well Iran when when when your insurance won't cover a knee operation and you have to go bankrupt to replace your hip

Is your main concern that Iran be decapitated? This is the craziest I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, what about our own backyard? Along these same lines, here is Dylan explaining how the majority of American voters in 2024 felt about funding another country's wars when our own house just does not seem to be in order. They didn't see commerce. They didn't see families running around. They saw desolate, you know, crime-ridden cities. They were unable to send their kids to a decent college.

They were unable to own a house. And they felt like giving money to the Ukraine or giving money to Israel for endless wars, years and years. Whether you support them morally or not, just a reality that they go on years, two years, three years, billions and billions and billions of dollars. I think a lot of people looked at that and went, this doesn't make any sense. It's not rational that the country that we live in is seemingly in terminal, irreversible decline and that nobody can do anything about it.

But we must be all over the world funding things here and there that you, Your kids on TikTok come up to you and go, why are we doing this? This baby just got beheaded and you have to go, well, it's complicated. All right, so there's that clip. And finally, here is Tim Dillon directly calling out the warhawks in the media, the elite for pushing us into a war that will have no actual effect on them personally. The people that are pushing for these wars, like, you know, and the guys that are very, like, blasé and casual,

about them, Thomas Friedman of the New York Times, Sam Harris, all these guys, they're all sitting in beautiful homes, their wives are playing tennis, the kids are in the pool, they're eating a nice lunch, and they're typing a column about how good it is that someone somewhere is getting bombed, that someone is laying in their bed at night and bombs are going off. These guys have never been in a war. They've covered wars, whatever that means. I'm sure all these guy, Douglas Spurray, they're always in at a war. They're always having cocktails at a war, but they're never fighting the war, but they're having cocktails at the war, canapes. They're like a meet and greet at the war. So yeah, Jenk, you know, I watch the cables in the morning and just

kind of sample around. I was watching Morning Joe a little bit this morning before I got out the door, it does seem like these are pundits theorize it. And some, you know, generals they have on some people who have been to war, despite what Dylan says. But it just seems like everybody's out of touch with everyday Americans who are looking at this and saying, what about us? Yeah, look, I know I'm unique on this, but I feel like the battle is joined. We've been out here for 20 years of the Young Turks standing opposed against wars. I've been Fighting those guys that he mentioned, Sam Harris, Thomas Friedman for 20 straight years. Sam Harris is not saying, oh, I'm an atheist, but the Muslims are the worst.

Wait, you're either don't believe in religion or you do. What the hell is the Muslims are the worst and they believe they're violent and all that stuff. I had a three hour debate with him. You can check it out. Thomas Friedman, you know, always is defending the democratic establishment, always defending Israel, always defending all the wars that we go into. And what do they do afterwards, the mainstream media? They come back and they go, oh, nobody could have seen it coming.

Oh, we got light into Iraq. Nobody could have seen it coming. We'll do better next time, right? Oh, Joe Biden is not young and dynamic. Nobody could have seen it done coming. We'll do better next time. And here we are next time in Iran. It's the same exact thing.

Iran could get a nuke. And it actually, you know, it'll be a mushroom cloud. We are first thing. Oh my God, any second now they're going to get a nuke. And then Netanyahu goes on TV. Brett Bear asked him out of box news. Hey, were they are intelligence? U.S. intelligence says they never even recent.

started their nuclear military, military program at all since 2003, at all. Did you know that the Grand Ayatollah has an edict out? You always hear the ones like, oh, we're going to destroy Israel. So that's it. That's we have to murder everyone in Iran because they theoretically, hypothetically wrote on a document once that they're going to destroy Israel, whatever the hell, right? In that same kind of edict, the Ayatollah said that it is a sin to develop a nuclear weapon. No, I don't believe them.

So you believe them on the other one, but you don't believe them on this one. Why? Because you're doing propaganda, right? So that's what the mainstream media does. And I've been fighting it for 20 straight years. And now all of a sudden I got Tim Dillon and Rogan and Dave Smith and so many others, even Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green and Steve Bannon, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Saying yeah, anti-war and we meant it.

Anti-war and we meant it, okay? Look, whatever you think of their media leaders, their political leaders, I know so many on the left will tell you, no, all their voters are liars. They're not, why would a voter be a liar? What's their incentive to lie? No, they said they were anti-war because they are anti-war. Can they get tricked into a war? Well, we're finding that out together right now. So a lot of their media guys proved to be true. Now saying, oh my God. Look, guys, I'm not saying these guys are. great on other issues. Steve Bannon is a nightmare on other issues. Jack Posobiac, I couldn't discreet more with that guy on thousand issues, right? But they're all over their airs like Tim is going,

don't go in, don't go in. This is not our war, this is Israel's war. And their voters are saying don't go in. So that's why Trump's in a conundrum. I mean, I love the way that Dylan does it in a funny way, right? And he's right, just think about that for a second. And then I'm gonna go to you guys in the polls.

In fact, I'll give you one poll and then I come to this thing. You said, we on the live chat, we're asking, what should the United States focus on? Because this is what he was asking. A, funding our allies wars, or B, fixing our own problems. What do we got there? 95 to 5? 5% say, no, no, let's spend all over money funding other people's wars. 95% of Americans. Now, I get it, it's our poll, right? But go do your own poll. I bet you it's like CNN will do a poll and then bury it. I've seen them do that before. Well, it turns out 85% of Americans are against. Get this out of here. Never report that again, okay? Most Americans love Israel and think it's a special ally and think that we have to

do this war for Israel like we did with Iraq, okay? Get rid of our own poll. Okay, so what Dylan said is so on point, right? And that's part of why we're covering. You go to a trailer park, go to a suburban home, go any American, knock on their door and say, give me your top three problems. Not one will list Iran. Not one. Not one. Give me your top. top five, give me your top 20 problems. Not one will list the wrong. Okay, they'll tell you about, oh my God, housing is so high, the drug prices are so high, my wages are too low, et cetera. But we're not spending money on that, none of that, none of that. We're taking away from Medicaid, we're taking away from Social Security offices, we're taking away from SNAP, we're taking away

from everything just to give it to Israel to do this war. Come on, come on. So a lot of our members wrote and SM said MAGA has realized the scam. That's why I'm thinking. telling you guys, has all of MAGA realized it? No, but we've got more in a second. But a lot of them have recognized it. Take the win. It's never happened before a united states of America. I know that you're not in the mood to unite with anybody if you're on the left and you see what's happening in the streets of L.A., etc., right? But this is an actual anti-war coalition. Certainly 100% the libertarians mean it for sure. It's just Vegas. Another member on Twitch this time said comedians probably know more about what's going on than the mainstream media hosts.

I don't think that's even close. I think, first of all, an average young Turks viewer is going to know about 20 times what a mainstream media reporter knows. Like if you did a quiz on the news, right, are politicians affected by money that they receive? All young church viewers would say yes. Almost every single mainstream media reporter would say no. It's already over.

The quiz is already over. Right, but we can go on and on and on. So ask him about how we got lied into the Iraq war, how it's, you can go on and on. It's just nothing but lies. Okay, we have one more vote. Poll, this one's on t-y-t.com. Do you believe that MAGA is truly rebelling against Trump and the war? And a lot of people have different opinions.

I'm curious how you guys are going to come out on this. A, no, they actually want war. A lot of people on the left believe that. No, I don't, they're all lying at all times, even though they're all saying that they're anti-war, or tons of them are saying they're anti-war, they're, I don't believe them. And I don't want their help, even though they're in power, I just want to hate them. B, no, they're against the war, but none of them are rebelling. Again, there's Dylan rebelling.

And we're going to show you in a little bit, Tucker and Marjorie Taylor Green, et cetera, rebelling. But anyway, C, yes, they are anti-war and are pushing Trump not to get involved. Okay, so curious what you guys think, t.y.com, but there's a lot of people on the left that are so mad at the right that we think, you know, I don't want any help from them. I don't know, Sharon. Me, I'm a practical person. We're not in charge. Trump is in charge. Trump is not going to listen to the left. But there is some chance that he's going to listen to his own base, which he does do a decent amount of times. And it looks like the base is turning. So I'm encouraged by that. When you look at the Dylan broadcast, what do you think? I think, yeah, enough of them are

are turning against Trump led by Dylan and others. I just wonder how much steam it'll pick up. But I think Trump does listen to the polls tank. And I do think that when his base starts to erode a little bit, I mean, just look what he's doing with, oh, we'll exempt the farmers, we'll do this and that with his immigration enforcement policies with ICE. So I think you're right. A lot of people on the left have blinders on because a lot of water under the bridge and

It seems like the floodgates are open and it keeps coming. But yeah, I think it makes sense. I do. Let's take a quick break. Get to your comment and we're right back. T-Y-Y-T-Jang is sharing with you guys. Sharon, more news. Yeah, is it a full-on MAGA revolt? Watch. Actually really love Trump. I think he's a deeply humane kind person. And I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my country's going to be further weakened by this. I think we're going to see the end of American Empire. Obviously, other nations would like to see that. And this is a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end, I believe, Trump's presidency and effectively end it. And so that's why I'm saying this. All right, so let's get into that part.

Israel's conflict with Iran is exposing the cracks within the MAGA base. As we've been discussing, Trump's loyalists have found themselves divided, including Tucker Carlson there. You just watched, Tucker said more about why he feels this way. But before we get to that Jankham, that last statement, that this involvement deeper, going deeper with Israel could end the Trump presidency. Your thoughts? Yeah, those are super strong words. And so look, the libertarians have left the building. We're going to show you some of that in a second.

They're done with Trump. And MAGA now still couching it in. I mean, we really love Trump and stuff. But, but his presidency is kind of over. Wait until you see Marjorie Taylor Green. By the way, also Jack Pesobiac, Steve Bannon. Not everyone, but the great majority of MAGA and all of America first, some part of MAGA is Israel first.

All of America first is like no to this war. No, this is nothing new with America. I don't want to pay for it. We've got a lot more examples for you guys. Yeah, so first up, we'll get more of that conversation between Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannett. The second you get it mashed in a real war, not a fake, let's go bomb the villagers and declare success. We don't even have a good track record. Like, why are the Houthi's still there?

I mean, there's a whole other question, which is how prepared is the U.S. military for a real conflict. And the answer is totally unprepared. Scary unprepared. I don't think people understand that. But anyway, the only reason I'm saying any of this is because I really, really care. All right, so there's Tucker talking with Bannon. He also criticized Trump in a newsletter. Here's what he wrote, while the American military may not have physically perpetuated the assault, years of funding, sending weapons to Israel, which Donald Trump just bragged about on truth's social, undeniably placed the U.S. at the center of last night's event. Politicians purporting to be America First can't now credibly turn around and say they had nothing to do with it.

Donald Trump snapped back during an interview with the Atlantic. Well, considering that I'm the one that developed America First and considering that the term wasn't used until I came along, I think I'm the one that decides that. For those people who say they want peace, you can't have peace if Iran has a nuclear weapon. So for all of those wonderful people who don't want to do anything about Iran having a nuclear weapon, that's not peace. So then Tucker is back this time on X. The real divide isn't between people who support Israel and people who support Iran or the Palestinians. The real divide is between those who casually encourage violence and those who seek to prevent it between warmongers and peacemakers and peacemakers, who are the warmongers? They would include anyone who's calling Donald Trump today to

demand air strikes and other direct U.S. military involvement in a war with Iran. On that list, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Rupert Murdoch, Ike Permanagh, Mirren, Edelson. At some point, they will all have to answer for this, but you should know their names now. And podcasts are and frequent Rogan guests, Dave Smith, shined in, apologizing for backing Trump in 2024, going as far as calling for his impeachment and removal. Donald Trump, listen, man, I supported him this last year. I apologize for doing so. It was a bad calculation. At the time, it seemed like the right one. But he should be impeached and removed for this one. And not on some, like, not on some ridiculous Nancy Pelosi. Of course,

the Congress will never do it because they're all a bunch of, you know, corrupt acts. This is the one thing they support. This is like the, yeah. Donald Trump should be impeached and removed for this. All of his supporters should turn on him. It's the absolute betrayal of everything that he ran and campaigned on and everything that he stood for. And I will say, despite the fact that, you know, Donald Trump supporters have been labeled like a cult following. And that certainly is true for a percentage of his supporters. He is going to lose his coalition over this. I know I don't just speak for myself when I say there are a lot of us who simply will not go along with this. Voices are growing louder and larger number, it seems.

Representative Marjorie Taylor Green agrees she shared this post. Everyone is finding out who are real America first MAGA and who were fake and just said it because it was popular. Unfortunately, the list of fakes are becoming quite long and exposed themselves quickly. Anyone's slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel-Iran war is not America First MAGA. Wishing for murder of innocent people is disgusting. We are sick and tired of foreign wars, all of them. And she had more to say. She went on to say, every country involved and all over the world can be happy, successful, and rich if we all work together and seek peace and prosperity.

Prosperity. Taking this position is not anti-Semitic. It's rational, saying, loving toward all people. Taking this position of peace and prosperity for all is not isolationism. It leads to great trade deals, great economies that help all people. It's what many Americans voted for in 2024. America first, America first, America first. That is how we make America great again. So on Pierce Morgan today, Jenk, you found common ground with Pesibiac. Let's watch that. This is not America's war. This is a war that is confined to two parties in the Middle East.

This is a war where the United States faces absolutely faces the threat of escalation. And years ago today. So 10 years ago today, Donald Trump comes down the golden escalator. And what did he say? No more foreign, endless wars. And instead, why don't we focus on the problems at home? He talked about, obviously, illegal aliens. He talked about deportations.

But he said millions and, excuse me, trillions of dollars spent in Iraq, trillion spent in Afghanistan. And what did it get for us? Nothing. Look at me and Jack. Me and Jack, don't agree on anything else. But we agree that we should serve America. I say Americans first, not Israelis. Stop the wars.

Let me say this. Look at Madden. Let me tell you, number one. Steve Bannon and all says stop the war. All right. Let him ask for war. Let him speak. Uniting saying we don't want war.

All right on the other side of MAGA, you have conservatives loudly back in support of regime change in Iran like Ted Cruz, likely suspect. He said this during a Fox News interview with Maria. Senator, do you want to see regime change? Do you think that happens soon? And what would the future look like in that regard? guard. Look, I think it is very much in the interest of America to see regime change. I don't think there's any redeeming the Ayatollah. He is filled with hatred.

Ted Cruz on Fox. And then there's New Gingrich posting this. Let's take a look. The replacement of the theocratic dictatorship in Iran with a secular government committed to peace with neighbors, prosperity for Iranians, and a non-nuclear future is the only outcome of the current Israeli-Iran. Iranian war that would be a success, any outcome which leaves the Mullahs and their dictatorship in charge guarantees continuing Iranian support for terrorism and a new even more secret effort to get a nuclear weapon. A truce leaving the Mullahs in charge guarantees more terrorism and a future war. Imagine the recent missiles in Tel Aviv if they had been nuclear, no truth with the Mullahs. So there you have it. Jank, alluding to this preventative, preempted war. You got to replace the Ayatollah now. You have to have regime change or else things are just going to get worse. This is necessary for Israel to amp things up and for the United States to help.

Yeah. So you see the old guard versus the new guard there. Stold guard, Newt Gingrich, Ted Cruz, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin. Oh, yeah, war is awesome. We have to serve Israel loyally. were occupied and so you've, whatever Israel commands of us, we have to do, we have to do regime change in Iran. So no one's surprised by that. That was super obvious. They're all corrupt. They all get paid off by the special interests, the lobbyists, et cetera, to say those things.

And that's been true in America for so long. So partly because of that, partly because of how Maga stuck with Trump, no matter what he said in this first term, a lot of people on the left and in the middle thought, These guys are immovable, right? And but it turned, and I said they were. So I'm going to come back to that in a second. But let me actually finish off Gingrich and Ted Cruz for a second. I don't want you to lose track of some switcheroo that they're doing right now. And you saw it on those comments.

When Israel first attacked Iran, they said, oh, we have to take out their nuclear facilities. They're going to have nukes any day now. Then Nanyahu goes on Brett Bear's show on Fox News this weekend. And he says, just kidding, they wouldn't have a nuclear web. weapon for at least a year. Then why did you attack them now? And you didn't say that a minute ago. You said that they were about to have the weapons, right? And they said, well, they have ballistic missiles, but almost everyone has ballistic missiles. So should we attack everyone? So that was the original reason. But if you notice both then Yahoo and now his servants, Gingrich, Cruz, et cetera,

they're all going, we need regime change. Wait, I thought you said it was take out the nukes and the weapons of mass destruction. Now all of a sudden instantly changed to, no, we have to stay and fight there until we change their entire government and presumably take over the country. And can Israel take over Iran? Of course not. No, there's only one country powerful enough to take out their nuclear facilities and do regime change. That's America. So now that we're in the war, Israel sends all their dogs out to bark and yap and Ted Cruz goes, regime change, nuclear regime change on and a new regime change. Now, that's all normal, that's what normally happens, but now something unusual has happened.

I said in the beginning of the Trump administration that his coalition would not hold, that they would break from him and they would oppose him at different times. I further said that it would be on Israel, and everyone said, you're nuts, they're never going to break, they're occult, they will all listen to what Trump said, they're not actually anti-war and on Israel, are you kidding me? They will loyally serve Israel. Okay, you could hold on to your fantasies that they haven't broken. But there's Dave Smith saying he should be impeached he voter for Trump. There's Tim Dillon we showed you earlier. We got no business Iran. This is not our war. We got everybody saying it. We've got Tucker

Cross and Marjorie Taylor Green. Marjorie Taylor Green was on this show. They said, oh, you're crazy. She's not actually going to oppose the war. There she is opposing the war. So look, guys, it isn't about told you, it's about how do we assess what is true or not true? How do we effectively fight back against things that we don't want? So there's a lot that we don't want where the right wing is opposed to us. So I don't want the National Guard and the Marines in the streets of L.A. or any other city. And I will fight them over that. And we will fight very tough and very aggressively, okay?

But when they say they're anti-war, and now all their media is saying they're anti-war, it doesn't even matter if they're lying, like the media guys, because they're telling their audiences 24-7, Trump is wrong, we shouldn't go into this war, we should not back Israel. So let's all wake up collectively together. By the way, how did I know when no one else knew? Because I did something crazy called talking to them, and even more importantly, listening to them. No, you can't listen to them. We have to be in our own tribes and the other tribe is

evil. They're evil. Never listen to them. Well, since you weren't listening, you missed the fact that they're actually anti-war. And they're super tired of serving Israel. Not their politicians. Their politicians are in lockstep. By the way, a lot of our politicians are in lockstep with Israel, right? But their voters are absolutely sick of it. And the Israeli supporters are making are in the middle of making a huge mistake right now. They're starting to now do the same thing to them that they did to us. They're starting to call the right wing and the libertarians anti-Semites. Have that it, Ha'hast.

Oh, you go ahead, but that one-trick pony is already dead, okay? And you're going to flog that dead pony, and then you're going to call all of America anti-Semites because we won't follow Israel's orders. You're gonna find out soon that that is a very, very poor strategy. If you thought that was a bad strategy to try with the left, wait until you try it with the right and see how that turns out for you. Okay, so let's review. They won't turn on them, they did. They won't fight each other.

They're at each other's throats. You see that Tucker Carlson comment about Sean Hannity and Murdoch and calling out all those names, okay? The coalition won't split. It's split already. I mean, you heard Dave Smith there, and there's a lot more where that came from. Marjorie Taylor Green won't actually be against the war, she's actually against the war. So there's now a rebellion, and the rebellion is joined. So before it was the left that was anti-war, now libertarians are firmly anti-war.

They have joined the rebellion, no question about it. Now, MAGA, half of MAGA is saying, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't even care what Donald Trump says. No means no, we said no war. This is definitely a war. We don't need to get dragged into it. It doesn't need to be for regime change. It doesn't need to be to take out their nuclear facilities.

It doesn't need to be for anything. Maybe we should try America first instead of Israel first. Okay, here's polls for you guys on the live show. Will this shift in MAGA hurt Donald Trump? Yes or no. Curious what you guys think. Because a lot of you, again, still to this day, I get it. Because you've been burning the past, you're very skeptical.

38% say, no, it won't hurt Trump. 62% say, yes, it will hurt Trump. I'll tell you now, again, you can be skeptical and then come back later when you realize I'm right. It'll hurt Trump so bad that Trump at some point will break from Israel. Trump might leave Israel in the middle of this war. Oh, no, Trump can't do that. You sure, dog? You sure Trump can't do something that you keep saying he can't do?

So this is not over yet. This is not over yet. It's important to build that coalition so you push Trump with his own base, with the libertarians, with other voters, push him into saying, no, we're done with this. We didn't vote for this. And lastly, on our website, t.t.com, do you believe that Magna is truly rebelling against Trump and the war? A, no, they actually want war. B, no, they're against the war, but none of them are

rebelling. C, yes, they are anti-war and are pushing Trump not to get involved. Curious what you think there, t.com, we'll have the link below. Last thing here from me on this, Sharon, is about Pesobiac. So the guy that I was on with on Pierce Morgan, he did a hit piece on me when I started just Democrats. That was vicious. So I still carry that grudge around for a long, long time. And I'll probably carry the rest of my life, okay?

Him and another guy that I don't even want to name. Okay. And he's the guy who did Pizza Gate. I got no love for these guys. Steve Bannon despises immigrants. I got no love for these guys. But I'm not selfish enough to say since Pesobiac hurt my feelings, I won't work with them to end this war. No, there's too many lives on the line.

There's too many incredibly important things for me to be selfish about it and go, no, I caught feelings. So I'd rather protect my brand. I'd rather hate the other side than to work with any of these guys to stop the war. Am I the crazy one, Sharon, or doesn't that make all the sense of the world? Makes all the sense, strange bedfellows. I mean, listening to Tucker even for myself, I'm thinking, wow, okay, I can't find where I disagree with his statements on Israel and what's going on with them attacking Iran. A moment in this country where we watched violence erupt.

This cannot be the norm. It cannot be the way that we deal with our political differences. Now is the time for us to recommit to the core values of this country. And each and every one of us can do it. Talk to a neighbor rather than arguing. Debate an issue, shake hands, find common ground. Governor Tim Wolls there at a press conference after the gunmen shot and killed Minnesota lawmaker, Melissa Hortman and her husband over the weekend. The attack considered a targeted

political violence, also the word assassination used by investigators. Horrific details emerging on this one, Jang, can it be as simple as what Tim Woolz said, What you alluded to in our last story, talking to your fellow neighbors. Yeah, well, look, that's going to work for a lot of folks, not going to work for a lot of folks. But among the people who I'm worried that it won't work for is mass shooters and killers and, you know, people who have lost touch with reality to the point where they're going to go murder politicians. So violence is a form of surrender, intellectual surrender. It means you're an idiot and you don't know how to win an argument.

so you just resort to violence. That's what this guy did. And one of the things we get into right now is also which side is he on? Right wing had this preposterous idea that he was a left winger. That's not remotely true, not 1% true. So we'll get into that as well. Let's give you the details. Well, the details, the killing was part of back-to-back shootings.

They occurred early Saturday morning. The gunmen identified as 57-year-old Vance Luther Bolter. After a 48-hour manhunt, he was found taken into custody. There you see the wanted posters. Vance Luther Bolter is accused of impersonating a police officer to carry out the attack on Saturday before exchanging fire with police officers and fleeing from the suburban area. Minnesota lawmaker Melissa Portman and her husband Mark shot and killed at their home in Brooklyn Park. shortly before that shooting state Senator John Hoffman, a Democrat and his wife,

Yvette, were both shot multiple times at their homes. They were, they are pending surgery as we speak. Also, Senator Hoffman and his wife had been hit by 17 bullets between them, and here's what boulter faces, two counts of second degree murder, two counts of second degree attempted murder. The authorities also found a hit list in his car. Authorities said they found a list in the suspect's vehicle that included other public officials. This possibly target list includes dozens of names of prominent Minnesotans who support abortion rights, including many Democratic lawmakers, also abortion providers, according to an official who has seen that document.

His background in security appears to be completely fabricated. That was out there early. Social media posts and websites, Bolter said he had extensive experience as a security. professional with training by both private security firms and by people in the U.S. military. Now, NPR found little evidence to support Boulter's account. He appears to have worked most of his career in the food service industry. And one longtime friend described parts of Boulter's narrative about his life as, quote, fantasy. On the website for a company called Praetorian Guard Security Services LLC, Bolter described himself as part of the leadership team. NPR found no record of the firm having clients or providing any services.

Call to the company's phone number connected to what appears to be a private phone line, not a business. Address listed in incorporation papers appeared to be that of a law firm specializing in divorce litigation. Bolter himself appears to have had no history working in law enforcement, military or private security. Local news station Fox 9 interviewed one of Bolter's roommates. The longtime friends, David Carlson downplayed the idea that he had any real world military or security experience. Quoting, he was always kind of into the military stuff, but it was just, you know, we were always like that, me and him. We would play army men, Carlson said. Same time, he had very religious background, ironically, one that condemned acts of violence.

Online post played a picture, Bolter, as a devout Christian and pastor who preached at LeBorne. Mattadie, a church in the Congo, according to photos on the church's Facebook page. An archive website for his ministry described as global travels to preach, stating he sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer. After the horrific news of the assassination broke, Trump at first didn't have the kindest words for Minnesota leadership. Let's revisit that. Here's what Rachel Scott of ABC had to say on Minnesota I asked the president about the assassination and whether he plans to call the state's Democratic governor Tim Wolles voting. Well, it's a terrible thing. I think

he's a terrible governor. I think he's a grossly incompetent person. But I may. I may call him. I may call other people to the president said. He later slightly changed his tone per statement posted by press secretary Caroline Levitt. I have been briefed on the terrible shooting that took place in Minnesota, which appears to be a targeted attack against state lawmakers. Our attorney general, Pam Bondi, the FBI are investigating the situation. They will be prosecuting anyone involved to the fullest extent of the law. Such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America. God bless the great people of Minnesota, a truly great place. So there's the president once again responding in his unique fashion to a horrific tragedy in Minnesota.

What do you make of not just that, but how we get here when we had this suspect. I've heard a lot of analysts junk on television talking about how this could have been prevented. And the back and forth, you mentioned the right claiming something outlandish that this was a left plant who did this, conducted this violence. If the person's just unwell, unstable, does it even matter? Yeah, no, it's very difficult to stop. So I'll get back to that in one second. So first, let's note the irony of this guy in a couple of ways. In that statement that Sharon read, you guys, you know, these radical Muslims are also violent.

So the guy who went on to try to murder dozens of politicians in America. So, yeah, no, I don't see that. I do see you, though, brother. Trump, class he is always doing a political attack right after a shooting of politicians. When he was shot at, you know, we were fair on this show. And I said he was brave, et cetera, got a lot of flag for it, but it's obvious. And then everybody said around him, you're okay, you have to be super duper duper sensitive about the assassination attempt. And that makes sense.

In this case, not an attempt. There's two people dead, another two shot. He was trying to murder a lot of people. Apparently we don't have to be sensitive. We could just do an attack on Tim Walls right after the shooting. And notice the double standards. Okay, now we move to whether they're right, whether he's right way or not. It's not even close.

So he's a fundamentalist Christian that are all fundamentalist Christians, serial killers like this or mass shooters or, you know, do these kind of political assassinations? No, of course not, of course not. But is he in that category? Unfortunately, he is. Was it, oh, there was a theory was Tim Walts put him on some sort of committee or something. There was like a million of those in every state. Nobody knows who's on him. So that, aha, he's a Democrat.

No, he's not at all a Democrat. Big time MAGA, Trump supporter. Does that mean all of MAGA wants to shoot Democrats? No, it doesn't. Okay. So does it mean there's some unfortunately go in that route of violence? Yes, obviously. Who was on his list?

Everyone on his list was a Democrat, including Amy Klobuchar, Senator from Minnesota, and he had no King's protest flyers because apparently he might have been planning to go and shoot people randomly at no King's protests because they're protesting Donald Trump. So if you're on the right wing, let it go. He's a right winger. It doesn't mean all right wingers are terrorists. When a Muslim does a bombing, it doesn't mean all Muslims are bombers or terrorists.

When Israel goes and starts a war, it doesn't mean all Jews want to start wars, right? These, well, so the, even the governments like Israel don't represent all the people inside Israel, let alone all the Jews in the world. America, when we went to go do that disastrous war in Iraq, that didn't represent all Americans, right? So no, when a left wing person does something terrible, it doesn't represent all the left wing, when a right wing person does something terrible doesn't represent the whole right wing. But was he right wing?

Yes, yes, and the people who burned the Teslas were left wing, okay? So we got to stop doing this revisionist history and playing around. with the facts. Oh, those facts are uncomfortable. I want to blame the other side. No, boo, change the facts. No, we're not going to change the facts. So, but can you stop a guy like this? That was your original question shot. An answer is very, very unlikely. So real quick on this one, let me give you the timeline of what happened. The two people he injured are actually the first people that he went to go see in their house. It was around two o'clock in the morning pretending to be a cop has a mask on. They realize he has a mask on. And they start

trying to push him out of the house. And he starts shooting them. And he shot both the husband and the wife. But they managed to escape. And so they did not die. Amazing. He goes to another legislator's house. They happen to be on vacation. Oh, thank God, right? Goes to another legislator's house, all Democrats. Okay. And by that time, the police had gotten the call that the other Democrat politicians had gotten shot. So there was a car in front of her house. Nice job police in Minnesota. Way to go. So she's alive because of that, okay? You go so fourth house and that's where he finally kills the two people, and then the police see him doing it, he runs out the back door, etc. So how do you stop a guy

like that? One, number one, police work in the third case there actually did stop it. So that's why I say terrific job. Discredit to the cops when they do things that are wrong, beat up black people for no reason, kill black people. I said we've gone through all of that. When When the powerful do something wrong, we must call them out. When they do something right, credit where credit is due, okay? But could cops have stopped the first one? Could they have stopped all of them? No.

But if he did not have a gun, would it be less likely for him to be able to kill those people? Of course, of course. You can say, no, no, he could have brought a rope and he could have figured out how to tie it and then drag one of them and then somehow knock out the other one. I mean, yeah, with a frying pan, maybe, right? But no, the gun makes it way, way, way easier. So the number one thing you could do is gun control, but this country is never going to do it. Now, at least not in my lifetime.

So just buckle up, there'll be these psychopaths, and at some point they'll do either a mass shooting or political assassination near you because everyone in America has a gun, including the mentally ill. Yeah, I did hear, and we'll wrap up the first hour FBI profiler today on one of the channels saying that really the on that really the onus is on us and family and friends of the accused perpetrator in this.

If you see something, if you hear radicalized speech, you have to speak up. But in today's current climate, I'm not sure people would recognize what is imminent, dangerous or violent speech versus radicalized speech. But that's just my two cents. Yeah. All right, guys. That's going to do it. Yeah, we got to take the break.

Yeah, we got to take the break. Make sure you're checking out Sharon on rebel headquarters. We got a whole other hour for you guys and so amazing facts in there, including about the military parade, no kings, et cetera, and an incredible case of corruption. But I also want to mention Dave Smith, probably the leading libertarian in the country who flipped on Trump today, he's going to be on the Young Turks tomorrow at 8 o'clock Eastern. So don't miss that. It's going to be an amazing interview.

All right. Thank you, Sharon. We'll be right back, guys. ...you know... ...you know... ...to the... ...you know... ...it... ...then...