The Young Turks - MAGA Revolt - November 21, 2025

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

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All right. Welcome to the Young Turks. Jakey with John Ider all over with you guys. Huge show today, so we've got the Republicans going after Ambassador Mike Huckabee. So he, well, not really Republicans, right wingers, there's a big difference these days. Republican politicians work for Israel, right wingers these days do not. And they are convinced that Huckabee does. And so, and they're, they're correct.

In fact, I did a poll on that, I'll tell you about that a little bit as well. Even Steve Bannon tearing into him, although I don't trust them, of course. Then Zoron goes to meet Donald Trump of the White House. We got that for you, obviously. Anna takes on Alan Dershowitz and Josh Hammer at the same time. And I feel terrible for them. I said it's not going to end well for them. So we've got so much stories here.

And yes, another enormous link between Jeffrey Epstein and Finland. Just kidding, Israel. John. Okay, let's start off the show with something we knew was going to happen. We didn't know how much of it would see, but it ended up being way more interesting than even we might have expected. Let's take a look. He asked about your comment called the president a fascist, and your answer was when President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about-

That's okay, you could just say yes. Okay, okay. It's easier. It's easier than explaining it. That's weird. That of course is Zorn Maldani, the incoming mayor of New York with Donald Trump. They're meeting up and I think most people expected it would be like really contentious. And certainly the questions were, I mean a tough question to Zorn Maldami.

Do you stand by your labeling Donald Trump as a fascist and he jumps in to help out Zorn Maldani? That's strange. Yeah, no, no. No, no, this is actually one of the finer hours for Donald Trump. So press tried to get them to fight a couple of times. Mamdani great and did a great job with deflection, you'll see it in a second. But Trump did an even better job of going, no, no, we're not going to fight. It was kind of amazing.

And after you see all the videos of it and you'll see what I'm talking about, it was one 12th question that Mom Donnie had. Then I want you to vote on the poll on t.yt.com. If Trump is or on were to be in a movie or a show together, which one will would it be? Oh my God. A, odd couple, sense, B, bosom buddies. C, do people remember bosom buddies?

Okay. Before my time. It's got Tom Auxman. Perfect strangers is what I would go for. And cross-dressing, but anyway, C, Harold and Kumar go to White Castle, or maybe the White House, and D, trading places.

So have fun with that poll on t.com. All right, now let's give you all the videos and facts. Yeah, and I don't believe, by the way, just to Mamdani's credit, I don't think he backed off in that question and he shouldn't. He's 100% right. Trump is a fascist. Whether he's like chuckling and like patting you or whatever, still a fascist. But either way, they had previously been very harsh in their criticism of each other. Mammani called Trump a despot and a walking avatar of New York City's corrupt landlords and culture of corruption is dead on in that. I think that's a great label. He also stated, I am Donald Trump's worst nightmare as a progressive Muslim immigrant who actually fights for the things that I believe in. And so that's Mamdani. Trump had said, he looks terrible, his voice is grading, he's not very smart. And I think, wait, I'm talking about himself?

No, I guess he was technically talking about Zoran there. It doesn't make as much sense that way, but I guess that's what it was. And he had also said, it is my strong conviction that New York City will be a complete and total economic and social disaster should Mamdani win. And so that's the sort of thing that a lot of right wingers were saying over and over and over and over again. And Trump certainly got in on that up until today. Today he had kind of a different way of talking about the future of New York. I mean, he's got views out there, but who knows, I mean, we're going to see what works or he's going to change also.

We all change. I change a lot. I feel very confident that he can do a very good job. I think he's going to be, I think he is going to surprise some conservative people, actually. And some very liberal people, he won't surprise it because they already like him. Would you feel comfortable living in New York City under a Maldane administration? Yeah, I would, I really would, especially after the meeting, absolutely. But what makes you comfortable? We agree on a lot more than I would have thought. I think he's, I want him to do a great job.

Mr. President, Republican-Aleastafonik has campaigned multiple times by calling Zara Mamdani a jihad. Do you think you're standing next to a jihadist right now in the Oval Office? No, I know, but she's out there campaigning and, you know, you say things sometimes in a campaign. I met with a man who's a very rational person. I love that. And by the way, he's honest about Elise Sophanic. He's like, yeah, you just, you know, your campaign and say whatever the hell you want. Who cares?

I declare that someone's a terrorist. It's just politics or whatever. And so, yeah, she was mad. By the way, Laura Lumer was very mad about that meeting, saying that he's in there with a jihadist. And it's like, he's been with lots of jihadists recently. Mamdani's by far the least jihadist of the people he's been meeting with recently. What is your problem? But anyway, look, that was a pretty fascinating meeting.

Ken Klippenstein summed it up saying Trump is being nicer to Mamdani than Democratic leadership was, L.O.L. Which is definitely true. My theory, Jacob, curious, if you agree, is I think he has now absorbed that Maldani is that Maldani is genuinely very popular. I think he has seen the affordability thing breakthrough. He tried to like dust it off, laugh it off. And now he's trying to claim that he's the one that's for affordability. I think he's partially, he's actually charmed by Mammany, who is a charming guy.

And partially I think it's he wants to get some of the shine, I think, what do you think? Yeah, I think it was one of Trump's finer hours because, and I get the way that Trump acts. So he fights, fights, fights, and to your point about, it's just a campaign, you tell people Haitians eat cats and dogs. It's a lie, but it's a way to get people to hate ancient immigrants. Just the campaign. Nah, you're not supposed to do that, right? But does Trump do that all the time?

Yes, and does, but the good news out of that, that's the bad news. The good news out of that is that once the fight is over, Trump is pretty good at reconciliation. So if you were skeptical about that, you certainly saw it today. There's still another tough question coming up for Mum Donnie, but I thought it was a fair question. And he's and Trump from time to time stepped in defended mom Donnie. Not time done for actually most of it. I mean, you've already seen a couple of pretty spectacular examples of it. And so look, there's so much I want to talk about.

So number one on the the stuff that they kept going back to is he a fascist, right? So look, I think that there's a spectrum of words, authoritarian, then fascist, then Nazi, right? Right? So I've never gone to Nazi. Nazis very particular, it involves killing about 13 million people, et cetera. Or some sort of genocide, Holocaust, etc. I've never gone there with Trump, because I don't think that's fair. I think that's the end of the road, right? So I have said fascists before, and then it becomes the question of what is a fascist versus an authoritarian?

Is does Donald Trump have authoritarian tendencies? Look, I think in the rational world, that is inarguable, right? So we just saw it yesterday. Oh, these Democratic senators in Congress from made a video about me saying don't follow an illegal order, let's that's it, you got a call for death. What is that? Okay, I'm gonna roll out the military into the streets. I'm gonna make sure that they're not wearing badges and masks when it's ice.

Just every instinct he has, including literally saying after he lost the 2020 election, we should terminate the Constitution is these huge, obvious, unmistakable authoritarian tendencies, right? Now, if you want to get, you know, your feelings hurt by the word fascist and you don't like it, okay, fine, I don't really care, I don't care what it's called. I care that he's not going on an authoritarian direction, right? Or you're in the camp of, no, you have to call him fascists, otherwise my feelings are going to get hurt. Fine, either way, I don't really care. I care about the results.

And the things that he does in office that deeply concern me is when he ignores the Constitution, he ignores the laws, he kills people in boats without even knowing their names. without any due process, that is a massive violation of our constitution and of international law. So you could call it whatever name you want, but that is a deeply problematic issue for Trump, the number one problematic issue. Okay, now, but he does have moments where he goes bygones be bygones, right? Here's the most spectacular case of it, it's not Mamdani, it's his own vice president,

J.D. Vance, because Mom Doni never called him a Nazi, I don't even know if he's called him fascist, but, and he certainly never called him Hitler, but Trump's vice president did. He called Trump America's Hitler. And Trump's like, ah, whatever, who cares? You want to be vice president? So he's good at that. Here he is. So that doesn't mean you like the other things about Trump. You could be honest about different parts, right? And you don't have to love Zoron's economic policies to say, hey, you know what? He's got a good point about after status quo, after establishment. Let's go for change. Maybe I don't like the kind of change. So Ron's giving, right?

And I don't like the things he said about Trump. I don't like the things he said about X, Y, or Z, but the prices are out of control in New York. And he wants to have a run at affordability, and I care about affordability. So that is how you begin to bring people together, no matter what terrible things they've said about each other in the past. And this was just really, I'm not trying to oversell it. My sense of it was, this was a pretty spectacular example of it from both sides, from Trump and Mom Dodding. But since Trump is a president and known for ripping people's faces off, him coming in to rescue mom down in a couple times going, ah, who cares if he calls me a fascist?

And John, the other thing is, he's legendary for being thin-skinned, right? Yeah. And here he wasn't. So it was like, part of the reason I'm giving him so much credit is one, I think he really did earn it. Two, I'm kind of stunned by it. Yeah, yeah, he is very thin-skinned. Yeah, he can he can reconcile, especially with like Some Republicans, like you pointed out with Vance said about him, he had brief, I don't know if he's still reconciled with DeSantis, but he had reconciled. DeSantis had said some things about him, had challenged him and all that. And that's definitely true. There are definitely cases in which he's not very good at, you know, once the fight is over, just ending it, like,

you know, 2020. He couldn't just move on from that exactly. I wish he could have reconciled that a little bit easier. But yeah, it was, what is interesting, you know, they're now saying that they're going to work together, which is definitely, I guess, It's better for New York than Trump rejecting all federal funding to the city because he doesn't like the guy that got elected mayor. That would have been the authoritarian direction that you're talking about. I don't, I think it would be way too early to think that Mamdani had given him some indication that he's not going to go as far as he indicated that he would or something.

We have to see, I want Mamdani to continue to do what he said he was going to do. And I hope that he will, it's still very early days. So early that like even as we were playing our B roll and they're showing like shots of his campaign literature, It's still a shock that he won. It's wild that he is going to be the mayor. But anyway, while- Sorry, I'm gonna interrupt one more time, because I forgot to mention the jihadist line, right?

So look, there's Laura Lumer, unsurprisingly, oh, he's Muslim, so he's a jihadist. Not remotely true, not within a million miles are true. The deeply anti-Muslim thing to say, I don't love the word Islamophob. I don't think people are like that scared. They're just more hate Muslims than are afraid of them, but like Laura Lumer despises Muslims.

And then she'll always cry back to her. anti-sammachism. Like it's, oh, you said something that I could, it could be a dog whistle, could be a cat whistle, a parakeet whistle, I don't know, but that your life should be ruined over it. I despise all Muslims, they're all jihadists and I'm going to smear all of that. It's wild. It's, I mean, do you not see it? And what's amazing is for her and Israel first, they're like, yeah, yeah, we see it, who cares? In fact, we're trying to smear Muslims so you don't hate us, you hate them instead. And when we, when our beloved Israel kills them, you don't mind, right? So I want you to understand what a deep racist pile of dung Laura Lumer is

and all the people going in that direction. And once again, Donald Trump did not go in that direction. Yeah, right. You're right, it's a little bit harder for him to do it after he played, had an actual jihadist played basketball in the White House a couple of days ago. I sprayed him with cologne and stuff. So, but that guy, former al-Qaeda, now supported by Turkey and Israel. So we're good with it. Exactly. Yeah. And Donald Trump does it. Donald Trump, I don't think really cares about ideology really at all ever. He doesn't care about any of this stuff. So much of the stuff that the right or MAGA gets so worked up over. I don't genuinely think Donald Trump cares at all. I don't think he's sitting at home stewing about

DEI. I got to do something about D.E doesn't care about that. He wants to make money. It's about corruption and power in the abstract. He doesn't care about that stuff. If he thinks that he can work with a guy who used to be an al-Qaeda, if he thinks that MBS, yeah, sure, MBS chops people up or whatever, but he's going to let me make a golf course in Saudi Arabia. He doesn't care the ideology is irrelevant. It's all business opportunities. expansion advice, and we can talk your ear off about transferring your business when the time comes. Because at Desjardin business, we speak the same language you do, business. So join the more than 400,000 Canadian entrepreneurs who already count on us, and contact Desjardin today. We'd love

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Buy yours at go-transit.com slash tickets. But while in the Oval Office, Donald Trump was way friendlier than expected with Zorn Maldani. Of course, there was media that didn't want it to be as friendly. They wanted to get in a good moment. And so for some reason, in this press conference, which is supposed to have journalists or whatever, they had Jack Pesobiak there for some reason, a right-wing influencer, and he was trying to have some sort of moment with Mom Dani. Take a look.

I want to know, one of the policies as well, that Mayor-Ly Mandami, talked a number of times about on the campaign was shifting the tax burden for property taxes from what he called minority communities to white-based communities and putting more taxes on white people. I also noticed that in your acceptance speech, you didn't mention anything about America or Christians or white people in general. And so I didn't know if that was one of the policies that you guys had spoken about. We focused on affordability. We focused on the cost of living crisis, what I will say is that I am very much interested in property tax reform because what we see right now in New York City is a system that is so inequitable that it can't

even stand up in court. To be clear, you're continuing this idea of race-based property taxes. No, to be very clear. That's what you said? No, the use of the term was a description of neighborhoods, not a description of intent. So you intend to tax the whiter neighborhood tomorrow? No, we intend to create a fair property tax system because we want a New York City that is not only fair and equitable, but also one that every New York can afford.

It's amazing how more even keeled Mamdani is than I would be in that moment. I would have gone wild in that. So you have a guy who's standing amongst where journalists are supposed to be, who's not a journalist, no ethics, not one ethical bone in his body, lying about what Mamdani said. It might have been enough for many right wingers for him to accurately describe as we will what Mamdani actually said. Instead, he made up terms that Mamdani has not said. He said it was going to be race-based taxation. That is wild exaggeration over anything that Mamdani has said. He's, Mamdani is answering his question and he's cutting in, yes, you did, yeah, you did.

And like, what is crazy to me is, Mandani is standing next to Donald Trump there. Mamdani is being peppered by some influencer hack, obviously biased questions, intended to create a viral moment. He's interrupting him, and Mamdani is so damn presidential. It's like Barack Obama standing right there. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is asked on his plane super relevant question and he melts down, quiet piggy. He yells because a woman dares to ask him newsworthy questions.

And so you have those two politicians stay next to each other with very different levels of expectations and very different abilities to not get triggered and just melt down when they don't like something that they're being asked of. In any event, and here's maybe an opportunity for that guy that influencer to actually learn what Mamadini really said. So we had this homeowner policy memo where he said the administration will shift the tax burden from overtaxed home homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods. So you can say maybe he shouldn't have had the word whiter there at all. It's undoubtedly demographically correct. But he's not saying we're going to take the tax burden off of people of color and put it on

white people. He didn't say it's going to be race-based taxation. He said we're going to move it away from some of the areas that are lower class and move it to these richer and whiter neighborhoods. Which again, like if he had just read that, Maga would have melted down. The word white is there, it's being said by a guy who's not white. That would have been enough, but it wasn't enough for him. He had to juice it up in a dishonest way. Yeah, I hear you, but I'm so used to Pesobiac's, you know, dishonesty and unfairness. He's the author of Pizagate, right?

that I thought it was a relatively normal question coming from him. So why? Because that comment does exist, the one that John just read you originally from Momdani. And I remember covering it and saying, I really wish she hadn't said whiter. Like there's no need for the white description, right? But Mom Dani handled it really well by saying that it was a description and not intent. So what he means by that is it was a description of those neighborhoods that exist, whether we like it or not, they are richer and whiter, right, but not intent as in, I intend to go after wider

neighborhoods, right? No, they just happen to be whiter, that's not the important part, the rich is the important part because then you want pay appropriate amount of taxes, not about punishment, just proportionate, right? So I think that the putting white there was a distraction, and he didn't need it, and it bothered me that he did it, I'm not at all surprised that a conservative would ask him about That would be shocked if somebody didn't ask him about that, right? He handled it pretty well.

I thought the only part where I, Pesobiag was even, was too dishonest. Like I expect the bad framing. I expect this, the intentionally wrong framing on, on that question. But then when he comes back and says, oh, so you intend for it to be wider neighbors? No, he said the exact opposite. Well, he also invented race-based taxation. That's no, that's nothing. That's nowhere.

He just invented as if he said that. And also, I think this, with that performance you just saw from him there, I think is a great summation of what the purpose of people like that is, what effect they're supposed to have in politics, how they're supposed to influence politics, because let's get to intent. So we read you that line, Jack Posobik wants you to believe they're going after white people. Well, you don't have to like make up an intent. Zorn Mandani in the memo says what the purpose of this is and why the policy needs to be changed. It's not an arbitrary thing where we want to take down taxes here and put them here.

He explains why. He says the property tax system is under the current status quo unbalanced because assessment levels are artificially capped. So homeowners and expensive neighborhoods pay less than their fair share. It's like the payroll contribution to Social Security. We just decided because rich people buy politicians, we're only going to pay up to a certain amount. We're not going to pay on the full value.

If you don't have a lot of money or if you have a house that's of a moderate amount, Now, you'll pay on the entire thing, but I'm a rich person. I don't want to pay on the entire thing, so I'm gonna cap it. And he's saying, why don't we make it fair and equitable and uncap it on the wealthy? And that's where an influencer like Jack Posobie comes in. He takes something that is inherently about fixing a class-based rigging of the system that currently is here and says, no, don't worry about that. I'm gonna protect the rich by pretending this is a race thing.

So I'm gonna continue to allow, I want, my goal is for rich people to continue to to continue to get away without paying their fair share. And then meanwhile, I'm gonna get poor white people to be angry, to be P-O'd because they think something racist is happening against them. That is the point of so much right wing media and you just saw it in demonstration in the Oval Office right there. Yeah, I hear you, John, but the reason why he shouldn't, Mamdani originally shouldn't have given them that opening was- I agree with you about that way.

Yeah, yeah, is because like if you said about Dearborn, Michigan, there's a lot of rich Muslims there, you'd be like, why do you need the Muslim part, right? If your issue is rich property taxes or a lot of rich Jews in the Hamptus we should tax more, but no, no, no, no, no. Why are you including the race, identity, et cetera? I agree with you. Yeah. So, but nevertheless, I agree with you, John, that is a tiny thing, right? That they're trying to blow up into a bigger issue, partly to smear mom, Donnie, but also partly to protect the rich. Right? And that's the real issue at hand here. Why is the property tax capped?

that they want to avoid that issue that the core issue like the plague right because almost all the donors of the right wing are super rich and love that provision all right last things go to our audience madbama 112 said on super chat mom donnie's a true populace trump knows the value of populism his polls are tanking and his base is rebelling this is a ploy to look reasonable so this goes to answer John's question a lot of you guys did in the beginning and why is Trump being nice here, right? One is once he talks to someone and they're not mean to him, he's much more open, right? Two is, I think that mad mama here is right, that he's like, okay, I see now affordability.

I heard you on affordability, we're the same, we're the same on this. Oh yeah, me and him on affordability, totally. And also me and him on populace, right? And his populace credentials are being challenged now. JBA 5850 is a member on YouTube and said Trump and Mamdani aimed for America first in their own way regardless of which side both should support this and there is a little bit of that connection Donald Trump's not really America first he's been very Israel first right and but again to the same point his base is rebelling about his Israel first policies so Mamdani it got a lot of

credit including from Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green on being America They're like, why should the mayor of New York have to go to Israel? That's crazy, right? Which he was asked about over and over again in the debate. So now Trump is also saying, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. Here at home, affordability, populism, that's what I meant, right? But at least it's politically savvy and it's turning around a little bit. Now the last way you could think about it, and by the way, thank you for being members,

and I love that you're part of the show, and you make these brilliant points. Hit the join button below on YouTube, become a member or t.com slash join wherever you are. But I think the last way you could look at it, which is enormously positive, and all of these things are true, is that Zoran Mamdani was so good at this that he went and charmed Trump without agreeing with him on anything, without switching any of his positions, and got Trump to seem to be agreeing with him rather than vice versa. And that is super well played. That's crazy, yeah.

Yeah, so great job by Zora Mamdani there. Yeah, 100%. Well, I think that's where the good news kind of ends for this block at the very least. We've got to get into some more traitorous actions, some really weird and suspicious actions by elected officials after this. All right back on TYT, Jenga John, with you guys, but also with it, Gal, who sent in five Young Turks memberships on YouTube. You're kind of awesome. We love you for that. We appreciate it.

John. Okay, let's jump into what I am assuming will be one of Jenks' favorite stories of the day, starting with us. Let's take the case of Jonathan Pollard, who's one of the big. traitors in the history of the United States for passing classified information on to the Israeli government. They were caught out in the open. Prime Minister Netanyahu used to visit our soil and actively campaign and urge our presidents of the United States to pardon Jonathan Pollard for betraying our country to his country. Do you have any idea what they did with that classified information, those secrets? Well, I actually have no idea, but what I do remember.

They gave them to the Soviet Union. Oh, that's right. That's right. So that's part of a conversation. that happened in July of this year, obviously Tucker Carlson and Saga on Jetty talking about Jonathan Pollard, as they said, one of the most notorious, at least in the last 50 or so years, traders to America who spied on our country to hand over huge quantities of information to Israel, then ended up even going to other countries, other rivals and enemies of ours. What's interesting is that the same month that conversation was happening earlier this year, The US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, met with Jonathan Pollard. Now that was obviously many months ago, but we only found out about it yesterday because of an investigation by the New York Times.

And as a result of that, a lot of people, I think, are very justifiably angry and confused and suspicious about why exactly our ambassador would be meeting with someone who is only notable because of their massive betrayal of our country. And that's look, people like us, Pod Save America. But many MAGA people as well quite mad about this. Jake, what do you make of it? Yeah, what I love is that the MAGA guys are at least as mad as we are, although it's tougher to be madder than me on this issue, which I'll get to in a minute. But God, the countries, you know, I'm gonna tell you a poll I did on X, on whether Huckabee works for America or Israel, the result is a little bit stunning.

And even Bannon is going to get into the picture here. But I don't see a single person defending Huckabee. And you'd really have to be out of your mind to defend meeting with this traitor. One last thing that you guys need to look out for in the story is how much Pollard hates Trump. And that's why Huckabee meeting with him is even stranger. Very suspicious. And I'm sure there's a few people defending him. I'm sure Laura Lumer's got a tweet or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, I didn't check because why would I? But yeah, it's very suspicious. There are a couple of specific things too that are also suspicious. Supposedly, this meeting happened behind the back of the Trump administration, getting to that weird loyalty question that you raised there, as well as the CIA. I mean, the guy stole our secrets and you're going out there while purporting to represent us. You don't tell your administration who famously desires absolute loyalty. You also don't tell the CIA as you talk about a guy.

who helped to betray the CIA. So they didn't know about it. And as you said, Pollard apparently doesn't even like Donald Trump or his administration. So here's what Pollard told the New York Times this week. He said he did not regret spying for Israel, lest you believe he had turned a new leaf or something, claiming that the US had cut Israel out of intelligence sharing, and he castigated Trump calling him a quote, a madman who has literally sold us down the drain for Saudi gold. So, you know, even a broken clock is right every once in a while.

But he was so mad at the fact that we had cut them out of intelligence sharing that he decided his loyalties lay, not with us, but with them. And he does not regret that literally at all. And yesterday he did an interview with an Israeli news outlet and said this. He said that he believed someone within the CIA stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Israel leaked information about the meeting to the media in an effort to discredit the ambassador and have him removed from his post saying, I think the people behind this are anti-Israel elements within the Trump administration.

Now look, obviously, I am generally more favorable towards leaks than a lot of other people, right-wingerers and stuff like that. But in this particular case, yeah, they should leak it. If the ambassador is having secret surreptitious meetings with traitors to our country, and he's not going to tell us about it, obviously, Mike Huckabee had months now that he could have revealed if he did, if he had a good reason to do this, that was beneficial. to America, that was America first or even America second or third or fourth. He could have told that story for months now. He chose not to do it. And so we're not happy

about this. Some conservatives, also not. Jack Posobic, second appearance of the show today, says Jonathan Pollard is a traitor. Obviously, Sernovich says there is no universe where it's appropriate for Mike Huckabee, who is supposed to be our ambassador and serve our country's interest, is meeting with Jonathan Pollard, who to this day encourages spying in the U.S. Tucker Carlson says, this is shocking behavior from the United States ambassador. Is Huckabee going to explain it? And Steve Bannon said immediately recall Ambassador Huckabee, he is out of control. And I think Steve Bannon is right there.

I am surprised to see him tweeting about this, he'd seemed too busy for social media over the last week or so, not wanting to say anything about the weird revelations about him and Jeffrey Epstein. But I guess he had time to talk about this. And that is good because he's right, it's super suspicious. And it's making me wonder, could Mike Huckabee be what? one of the first high profile ejectees from the Trump administration. Yeah, if he isn't, it's super weird. So let's, there's so many things to break down here. I think Tucker Carlson is the first domino usually and Steve Bannon is the last domino.

If it got to Steve Bannon denouncing something related to Israel, that means Bannon has read the room and realize there's no way of winning this fight. So we might as well appear to be on the populace side and the America first side here. Why do I say that? He immediately had two people that he proposed instead of Huckabee. So I was about to give him credit online. And then he says, we gotta get rid of Hock and be immediate. I'm like, all right, add a boy. And then he's like, yeah, and then he's like, and name two people including one guy who

runs Breitbart, totally Israel first guys. And I'm like, oh, so you're gonna replace one Israel first guy with two other possibilities or also Israel first. What's the point, right? So it's like, so Bannon is not to be trusted here. And he's, I mean, the friendship he had with Epstein and he's hiding the tapes. So when, but he's an important person to watch because if he concedes, that means he thinks it's over. We have no chance of winning this argument.

You might as well concede and look like you're on the right side. He seems to have a better day to day read of what his audience. Like if he has a talent, it is like a lot of these people, it's knowing what his audience wants to be told and telling them that. Yeah, for sure. So now a lot of things here. Number one, New York Times, I'm constantly bashing mainstream media, as you all know. But great job here. Wonderful reporting. We always give credit where credit is due. Number two, so. So, so. When Apollo said that part about the Saudi gold, John said, is at least right about that. That's true. But the earlier part of that sentence is not true that Trump has sold Israel down to drain, right? No, Trump has done everything that Israel wants.

But for Israel diehards, it's nothing is ever enough. Why are they now livid at Trump and starting to attack him? Mark Levin, who the whole time when Trump agreed with Israel, he's like, that's that, MAGA is what Trump does. And if Tucker or Monry, then they're not MAGA, they're not America, right? And so Trump's like, oh, I'm going to do a giant arms deal with Saudi Arabia. And Trump is terrible.

What's they doing? Right, what happened? I thought he was MAGA. Anyway, so, and of course, Mark Levins' stepson gets into this picture because he's in our embassy in Israel. He arranged this meeting. So, like, they're like, oh, we have this wonderful. traitor you should meet. I don't know why, like I guess did Huckabee want to meet another

trader? Right, like so and look, that Milstein, who's a stepson, David Milstein, Mark Levin, Mike Huckabee, overwhelmingly obvious that their number one concern, number one through 100 is Israel. If America's 101, I'd be surprised, okay? So and so they and they They love to say like, ah, that's a crop, no loyalty grow. No, we're not saying about all Jews, not even close, not even within anywhere near close. No, we're saying it about you, right? Saying about Mark Levin, we're saying about Milstein, and we're saying about Mike Huggabee. Oh, by the way, Mike Huggabee, not Jewish.

Yeah. So you can be Israel first, you could be a traitor, et cetera, having nothing new with your religion, okay? So now, third thing is, look, Pollard was, it's so bipartisan and it drives me, crazy. Obama let him out on parole. Why? Why? Because the entire time Israel was like, you gotta let him out, you gotta let him out. Why would I listen to you? You're the mother Fers who spied in on me and you want me to release your spy. Are you mental? What they should have done every time Israel asked for that and go, that's that meeting's over. Get the hell out of my White House. Get the hell out of my office. And don't darken my doorstep again.

What do you mean I should let out the traitor who betrayed me for you? What am I, you are, am I a fool? Am I a servant? Who the hell do you think you are to ask me to release the guy who betrayed me and us for you? The goal of that, right? But no, Clinton was like, oh, okay, maybe. And as drop site news is reported this week, because Netanyahu told Clinton, we have tapes of you and Lewinsky.

That's just direct blackmail. And by the way, when another country blackmails you, you show them the goddamn door. That is what, you actually ended our relation with Israel instantly over. If I was the president, they're like, oh, I have tapes with you and doing phone sex, I'd release them right away. These guys, that's it. I'm on the war path because it's not about Clinton. It's saying, why don't you betray America to protect your own ass?

If they do it to Clinton, they're gonna do it to every president. Oh, right, oh right. So Israel has honestly never been an ally. They've always looked at us as suckers. And you know what Pollard said? Pollard said, oh yeah, I'm not America first. America first sucks, I'm Israel first. And I love it, and that's why I'm here.

And he said other Jewish Americans should betray America in favor of Israel. Now they haven't, don't put it on them, okay? But that's the kind of disgusting traitor Jonathan Pollard is. Oh, so I told you about Clinton, I told you Obama gave him parole. I don't, why are we humoring these some other efforts? And then Trump comes in and goes, parole's not good enough. I release him from parole, he can go back to Israel, doesn't have to stay here anymore. And wait, how did he get back to Israel?

He flew on a private jet, provided to him by Sheldon Edelson, Donald Trump's top donor. So Trump's like, oh, you betrayed America, you're Israel first, I mean, the most evaluate I'm proudly Israel first person in the world and you're America dead last. But my donor gave me at that time about a couple hundred million dollars. So of course, you're free to betray America all you won. And this new donor comes in, Sheldon Aedelson, he's now deceased, but his wife is the same exact thing, gave more money to Trump, Miriam Aedelson. They're not here for us at all.

Look at that, private jet for a traitor. Oh my God, and then Trump takes more money from that guy, he does him a favor? And how is that favor returned? Now, Mike Huckabee, your own ambassador, is conspiring behind your back with that same traitor to screw you over. Because they think you have done. And so why are they so mad about the Saudi deal, right? I mean, Trump has given them everything, everything they want. That's why Trump is the most popular politician in Israel.

They're like, no, not good enough. Our greed is endless, endless. No, we want to be able to bomb Qatar and Saudi Arabia anytime we want, and we don't want anyone else in the Middle East to have a military. We feel threatened, we feel threatened. No, if they have no militaries, we have leverage and we get to use it to crush them and to crush the Palestinians and no one can defend them, then we steal more of their land and more of their land.

How dare you give these Muslims any weapons or anything, right? right? I don't know a government more racist than the Israeli government, deeply, deeply racist, bigoted, and those guys are actually fascist and indisputable. So finally, so Pollard sells us out, but wait a minute, why is Huckabee involved in this? Not only is Pollard dead set against Trump, not only did they not tell the White House, he didn't tell the CIA. Huckabee didn't. Now, if you're having a secret meeting in the embassy, let alone with a literal trader, and you didn't tell the CIA, that means you're up to no good. If I was Trump, I agree with the first half of what Bannon said, I'd call him back immediately.

I'd say, tell me exactly why you had that meeting. And if that answer isn't perfect, I'm not just firing you. I'm arresting you. Yeah, I mean, really fast. I know we have to end. Like, is this about 2028? Like, what is Mike Huckabee doing? I said this could, you would think this would really hurt him.

I mean, theoretically, maybe he's tried to set something up that then leads to donations. Like, what is the goal here? I mean, the guy already was released. What's the point of talking to him more? He doesn't, it's not like he still has access to take more document. Like what would be the, I don't understand the purpose. No, the cover story of Huckabee is, oh, I'm a religious zealid and my religion says that all Christians should serve Israel. No, I get that, but why him specifically, why Pollard specifically?

Like I get him going there and meeting with the government or whatever. But what what utility does that former spy have at this point? Well, it might have been that Milstein got Huckabee to go so that he would have dirt on Huckabee. Okay, so that's a possibility, right? And other possibility is that Huckabee is literally conspiring with Israel. And why would he do that? Maybe for political advantage later and maybe for an enormous amount of money, right? And so, but why would you meet with Pollard and not sort of like the, you know, some person in the IDF, right?

Because it's an off the books collaboration, right? Technical collaboration is documented by the CIA and others, right? But if it's off the books and nobody knows about it, you go deal with the dirtiest guy there is, and that's Pollard. So there's no question, by the very nature of meeting with Pollard, it means that Huckabee was up to no good. Yeah. So that's why MAGA is even more mad than we are, because they're like, are you involved in a plot against Trump? What's going on here? Yeah. And I would double Trump's Secret Service. There is nothing that Israel wouldn't do. There's nothing Jonathan Pollard wouldn't plot. I mean, he says it. He says, no, Israel is so important by any means necessary. And of course, Pollard also thinks that they should kill everyone in Gaza and bring in Israeli settlers and just take it. Because he's, a Nazi. And so that's what Nazis say, kill everyone that's in the other race and just take their stuff. So I don't know if he's also wanted to take their golden teeth and their shoes, but that's the kind of Nazi Jonathan Pollard is. So our ambassador met with a Nazi who betrayed

this country and he should be immediately fired. And if he doesn't have a perfect excuse, that is, that I see treason. I don't want anybody executed. That's crazy talk, right? But we should look into whether it's treason and whether he should be arrested and maybe spend a lifetime in prison for it. Well, why don't we take our second break? More to get to after this. 0.075. Thanks for hitting that beautiful join button. Come on an American Hero. Be part of the young tourist members. You make this show possible. You get all of our content whenever you want. And you're part of the show. Speaking of which, Brandon Jones, read her comment the other day.

American Hero gifted five memberships on YouTube. Thank you, Brenda. All right, John. Yes, let's turn now to some good news. It's been a tough few days for the president in the polls. Yeah, John Berman. I would say this is probably the worst 10-day period for the president in the polls, his entire second term. That's a shame. But anyway, there is far more to it than just bad polls. They're really bad.

They're also specifically bad amongst one demographic that will turn to in a bit. But first year is Harry ends in to explain. I would say this is probably the worst 10-day period for the president in the polls, his entire second term. The numbers are just atrocious. What are we talking about here in terms of net approval rating? Well, take a look, these are all November polls. The best one of the group puts them at 14 points underwater. That's the Marquette University Law School poll.

Tied for the worst he's ever had in that, Paul. Fox, 17 points underwater. Maris, 17 points underwater. The Reutersipsoz, Paul, 22 points underwater. And then taking the cake, the AP Norc, Paul, 26 points underwater. When your best poll has you still 14 points underwater, you know it's truly bad, and it's as bad as 26 points underwater. We're talking about an average, well, well, well, underwater.

with the deep blue sea, swimming with the fish. He knows how to paint a picture with words, does Harry Enton. But anyway, we'll turn to the demographic I was talking about specifically the problems Trump is having with independence. But overall, this is now his worst polling ever so far this year. And we know that in certain issue categories like on the economy, he's at the worst. He's been through both of his terms, Cenk. What are you two cents? Yeah, I mean, I think it's obvious and I've been saying, well, it's not obvious because other people can say.

because other people didn't say, but I've been saying it for now a month or so. Why, especially in the last month? The mass deportations look ugly, people don't like it, all the independent shows turned against it. Most importantly, the affordability, he hasn't helped it at all, and he seems to have ignored it. The Epstein files that massive damage, right? Massive, because it wasn't just about Epstein. It was that Trump lost the veneer of being a populist. And instead he became another establishment elitist working against the people and that perception has heard of more than anything else. But as we suspect that the bottom has dropped out on a couple of demographics,

the young, the independents, and Latinos. Yeah, so there's a lot more where that came from. Yeah, Latinos, black voters as well, very, very low. And what I love about all of this is like I guess maybe the three biggest things are affordability, the Epstein files, and the mass deportations. There's a few other issues too. But those top three, it's like you can be a president and just something terrible. happens and people turn against your presidency, I love that these are three massive own goals.

He started most of these. He made it worse for himself, and I love that for him. But anyway, let's turn to the independence of what they think about Trump. Why don't we take a look at independence? Trump's not approval reign with independence. Back in January, he was close to even. He was at minus four points. Not great but not terrible. Look at this number. 43 points underwater with. independence in the most recent average of these polls. When you have 43 points underwater with independence, you know you're doing terribly. You can't win with this. If this holds for next year's midterm election, wave adios amigos, goodbye. See you later to that House Republican majority

and that Senate Republican majority very much in danger as well. If you think you know how he's going to end a segment, you don't, you don't. But anyway, yeah, so that's an amazing turn amongst independence. And I think it represents what I think a lot of people may be suspected right after the election, certainly came to suspect, which is Donald Trump being reelected was not that Donald Trump is such an enduring political figure and it's just such a strong brand. It's people felt desperate. And so they were like, okay, I guess we'll try this. And they gave him a month, they gave him three months, they gave him six months. And then they realized, oh no, this is actually an absolute disaster. I was never really on board with this. I was just desperate to get prices

down, he's not doing that, I'm done with him. And so, independents who are by their very nature not going to be as closely attached to Donald Trump as the other voters. I think they have fled him faster than I think we've ever seen a president lose a base of support. Yeah, so let me try to explain it what I think is happening. And I'm going to give me numbers on the Latinos and young people as well. So first off, there's a reason why his numbers held steady for quite some time. So as people were seeing it a month ago, go, no, well, Jenk, it's still holding steady, right? I was like, I know, that's a picture in time.

But the underlying stuff is terrible. And by the way, same thing we said about Biden before his numbers collapsed. I said, yeah, but the underlying trends are disastrous for Biden. So same thing here. So what are the underlying trends? So first of all, with independence, in the beginning, he closed the border. Independence loved that, right? And so young people and a lot of folks liked that that he did that.

At that point, he still has the video of populism, as I explained earlier. And guys, what was propping him up was the deep unpopularity of the Democratic Party, down at 28, 29% approval. So they're like, what choice do we have? And we just voted for this guy. And presidents are always more popular at the beginning of their terms. Barack Obama, after inauguration, right around that January number they showed for Trump, he was at an 83% approval rating in 2009.

That's insane. Right. So to your point, John, whether it's Obama or Trump, you're gonna get a big bump up for, hey, you're new, at least this time around, go get him, Tiger, let's see what you got, right? So now we've seen what he's got and they don't like it. Okay, so they closed the border, fine, good, got rid of illegal immigrants or undocumented immigrants who were criminals, fine, American people like that. And some people on our side objecting, objecting them. I'm like, guys, it's losing battle, they're very popular, right? Okay, so that one, happened and then of course he couldn't help himself and and honestly the radical right does want it right so he's like okay mass deportation masks no badges let's go snatch up women and kids and grandparents etc and the average America is like horrified by it right what is this this isn't America and then you're going to roll in military into the streets I'm like that's not going to play well and mag goes like no way man americas love military in the streets do they have you spoken to them maybe you guys

do right but the great majority of Americans did not like that at all okay Tim Dylan Joe Rogan etc they all turned on it and they're just representative of the independence so but the Epstein one was the biggest one because it shows he's a fraud that was a mask off moment yeah right so then that's it the independents are gone because the independents are looking for someone honest authentic representing the people they don't give a damn about if you call them yourself a Democrat or Republican they kind of hate both of those parties and they thought maybe Trump wasn't independent.

Robert Kennedy Jr., he's against the establishment, and when he comes in and does the same old Epstein trick, same old Israel first, wars, we're gonna go to war with Venezuela. The independents are very anti-war, they're like, sign-ar, as Anton said, gone, gone, okay? So all right, so that's independent. Now, Latinos, I'm like, I don't get it, the bottom's gonna fall out, because the polling was showing that the bottom had not fallen out, because I'm like, every Latino I talked to went from like, some already hated Trump, some were open to Trump, some voted for Trump.

Now when you talk to them, they're like, well, hate them, despise them. Why? Because they're like, oh, you guys were right, right? We said, no, they don't mean just undocumented immigrants, they don't mean just criminals. They mean Latinos. Yeah. And a lot of them were like, no, no, you guys are always talking about race and stuff like. Now they're like, oh yeah, they meant Latinos. That's definitely what they meant. And they're hassling all of us. We're We're citizens, they're hassling us, right? And so bye bye to that. Oh, by the way, what are the numbers?

Trump during election was only minus two with Latinos, which is an excellent number for a Republican, okay? Now he's at minus 38. He lost 40 points with Latinos. But young people are in the same camp as independence. And there he was plus eight because of all the social media, online media, et cetera, and he went and did all those interviews and Kamala Harrison.

He was plus eight, in fact, February, now minus 55. Jeez. As Harry Anton would say, down, down. The DPC. He swim with the fishes. Yeah. So that's 63 points he lost with young voters.

40 points he lost with Latinos. And then what do we have with independence there? Low end from 4 to 40, 44 point loss there. Yeah. Those are not little numbers. Those are catastrophic. catastrophic numbers. Yep.

So as I was telling you, Biden couldn't possibly win with approval rating in the 30s. Now, Trump is there in a nosedive. Yeah. So this is going to get worse before it gets better for Trump. Yeah, and that's why I've been talking about how lame duckish this is all felt. And it's why I think the Republicans are feeling a little bit emboldened to stand up to him at least a little bit. Because like, it's one thing to just, you know, have your lips pressed to the ground at

his feet for your entire career, if that's how you get reelected. But if he's gonna doom your reelection, well, what's the point? You gotta put some distance between yourself and him. That's Marjorie Green, you know, is sort of the harbinger of that. And all this big substantive stuff that we've been talking about is happening. And amongst all of it, and these are far smaller things. I don't think any of them matter except in accumulation, but they just all seem so elitist and disconnected from what people are really experiencing.

That like it's just constantly, it's we're gonna rename a gulf, you know, we want the department of war. We're gonna build a ballroom. Here's my new bathroom. It's like people are suffering. And look, I think foreign policy is very important. I think presidents need to be able to concentrate in what's happening here in the United States and abroad. But there have been presidencies that really seem as if they are focusing way too much on stuff that's happening outside of our borders. And Trump is getting that perception as well. And not necessarily like doing all that focusing and then getting results. Like he's had all those meetings about like Ukraine and Russia. What does that actually brought? Like we had an extra war with Iran,

devastation in Gaza. What's the benefit to us of all of the time wasted? And then on top of it, when you barely glance at us, you pay attention to us for a second, it's to put massive tariffs on the things that we need to buy, artificially making the situation with affordability even worse than it already was. It's just a perfect storm. And he's hitting all these groups that he needed to get elected, and then he's gone on a warpath against senior citizens who are already worried about the cost of their health care. And he's decided to screw them, the ACA subsidies can go away. And also, I don't know if you know, but a lot of of elderly people on SNAP and he's like, screw them, they don't get to eat. I don't want

them to get checks. And they see that stuff. They see that he's turned against them. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, last thing on this. So in the midst of this, since it's a they hit the iceberg, now I want to go to Benny Johnson. Yeah, because, so he's a right wing influencer. So he thinks, no, no, I got this. We're going to throw a bag of squirrels at the American people and I bet they believe it. So let's take a look. What happens if we lose is that the 40 million, 30 million, 80 million criminal aliens will immediately become, be given naturalization by Democrats instantly. That's what will happen.

And then they will all, a lot of them vote anyway, then they will all vote. And that'll end the republic as we know it. So that's what's at stake. And it's worth talking about. Your life is made better by mass deportations. every single thing you hate about your life right now or American culture is caused by mass immigration and criminal immigration. And it could be fixed by mass deportations.

It's comical. Okay, so a couple of things there. So there's now apparently 80 million undocumented immigrants. Or 30 million or seven or a billion. Right. Who's to say? I mean, because we're just making up numbers. Like, have I seen 12 million?

Yeah, have I seen 14 million? I think that's the upper reach of the numbers that I've seen. 80? Okay, because like you said, as long as we're making up numbers, why not make it 350? We're all undocumented immigrants, okay? So just totally wild, crazy stuff. Secondly, they've been saying this for a long time, the right wing media guys. Oh, they're gonna do it to nationalize them, they're all going to vote.

But they didn't want to do that when they had a neck and neck elections with Trump. No, no, let's save it until after we lose. Twice to try. Twice to try, yeah. I mean, everybody knew, even if you thought Kamo was going to win, that she's going to win by the skin of her teeth, right? So wouldn't that be the time for the instant naturalization? Wouldn't it be time when the Democrats held the House,

the Senate, and the White House, as they did in the first two years of Biden? No, this is like Alex Jones FEMA camps. Obama's going to find you in FEMA camps. You're all going to be a vegan. Alex, what happened in the FEMA camps, right? So it's nonsense why, well, that's the last thing he said, gives you the why. He's like, every problem you have, it's not because of the donor class that wants higher housing prices because private equity is buying up all the houses.

It's not big pharma who's driving up drug prices because they totally control Congress. It's not Israel. It's not any of these cases. Do you have military industrial conflicts? No way. They're totally innocent. Everyone that has enormous power and wealth, they never use it for their own benefit. No, they only help the masses, they do it for charity.

But the guys with no money or power, the undocumented immigrants, if they had money in power, why are they crossing the Rio Grande? Okay, so they come in with zero dollars. That's the real problem. Squirrels everybody, squirrels, don't look up, don't look up, don't look up, that's my daughter, that's my daughter, look down, look down. The guy was zero dollars, he has all the power. Yeah, does he, Benny?

It's the exact same thing I was talking about Pesabia or whatever in the first part. This is why guys like that have careers. So that people don't pay attention to the class issues, the structural issues, the way that our politicians have been bought. And instead, it's a brown person. That's a black person over there. And like, and he's less talented than even the others. So he does it in an even more like cartoonish way. Like literally just saying, everything you don't like about your life is due to immigrants.

Come on. You know, I noticed earlier today, I have like a hole in my jacket. And at first I was like, oh, damn it. That's probably my fault. I probably stretched wrong. Nope, it's Guatemalans. Cut them on my sleeve. I think Benny Johnson's on to something.

It's just so comical. Also, his need to have his cake and eat it too, it's like they're gonna naturalize them so they can vote. Oh wait, we already, we say that they already vote. Well, they already vote, but they'll double vote. They'll double vote after they get naturalized. And I bet the Democrats are gonna naturalize them all after they take away all your guns,

which we've been saying for decades they're gonna do. Yet no gunn appears to have been taken away. Yeah, but okay. Keep forgetting. So, but look, first mainstream media, got caught. I think what's going to happen next is that a lot of the liars in online media are going to start to get caught by their own base. It happened to Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro was like, oh, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel. So who cares about America? And the rich, the rich are great.

So this Benny Johnson thing of all the poor people and immigrants that are the problem. Black people have all the power in this country, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, culture wars, trans people. And then eventually his audience was like, wait, why do we have to support Israel over America? That doesn't seem right. Like I heard from someone else that we don't have to support Israel and that special ally is not a magic word, right? A phrase. And so now Ben has lost a huge chunk of his audience.

I think it's gonna happen on non-Israel issues where people go, Benny, you really think all of my problems, including drug prices, are because of undocumented immigrants? Like okay, I don't like undocumented immigrants, his right wing audience might say, but all my problems? Yeah. Now I'm beginning to wonder if you're lying to me and why you're lying to me, right? And who's paying you to lie to me? Yeah, and I mean, Daily Wire 101. Well, in that case, we know who's paid him to lie in the past.

Yeah, well, because if you don't know, real quick, last thing, Daily Wire got started as an example. One of the folks who gave them money were fracking billionaires. So that's why they're always talking against climate change. Because they're literally paid to speak against climate change. Oh, climate change, no big deal, it's just a hoax. Fracking screen, yeah, it's awesome, it's awesome. Did I do good?

Did I get more money? Great, great, great, great, great. So that happens. Yeah. All right, we've got to go. Everybody check out damage report. One p.m. Eastern every day, Monday through Friday, on YouTube and on t.com. When we come back, we've got a lot more news for you guys, including Anna handing Dershowitz

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