The Young Turks - MAGA vs. AIPAC - August 29, 2025

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

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Drop it like it, Oh no. All right, Power Power Power Panel, you crazy dog? We're gonna have an excellent time here. Jake Cougar, John Otterola, Senator Nina Turner, former Ohio State Senator, former campaign co-chair from Bernie Sanders. Of course, John is the host of Damage Report, which you guys are all checking out at 1 o'clock Eastern. You are all doing that already.

Okay, so we got a great show ahead for you guys. We've got Benjamin Netanyahu ordering MAGA around. Interesting, let's see how that turns out for him. We've got Trump's retribution, but also a health scare. Interesting, Democrats fight back, but do they? Okay, that started for you a little bit later. And in case you're wondering, you know what? I wonder what shirt Jank is wearing underneath the banner that I'm seeing there.

Oh, well, okay, I'm glad you asked. It's this. Oh, yeah. America loves Palestine, okay? So what we're doing, guys, is shoptyt.com. All of the profits go to the Palestine Children's Relief Fund. And we've got a whole free Palestine collection and all the proceeds from there. Go to the Palestine Children's Relief Fund.

So check it out at shoptyt.com. I love this shirt and I'm gonna wear it around. There's a bunch of others like just like this too. All right, anyways, I wanted to let you guys know I had that ahead of time. All right, what do you got, John? It's a great shirt, but you know, you can't be Maga if you wear that shirt. I'm finding out from Israel, but anyway. Oh, I see.

Okay, well, I'll take that on her advice. Actually, before we go on, how are you, Nina? I'm doing great. Glad to be on the power panel tonight, Jink, with you and John. Fabulous. All right, wonderful to have you back. Okay, all right, John. Now proceed with the news.

Why don't we jump into it? into it. In a recent interview with Breitbart, the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Nanyahu, stated that no American can be MAGA if they're anti-Israel from his point of view. But that's not stopping some of the loudest voices in the MAGA movement, including Steve Bannon, Marjorie Green, Mac Gates, from continuing to hammer both the Israeli government and their military strategy. So we're to give you all the details, what Netanyahu said and how they're responding to it. But, Jank, what was your response to hearing? that the prime minister of another country gets to decide who is in particular American ideological

groups? Yeah, I think he made a wonderful mistake. I'm actually thrilled about it, because here's what MAGA doesn't love. In my experience, and I do have some experience with it, right, having talked to a lot of them. A, foreign governments telling them what to do, not high on MAGA's list, right? And number two is people telling them, all right, this is what you're allowed to think. If you think anything else, we're going to cancel you. Okay, so Netanyahu has made a series of bungling errors that you would think like, no, come on, what do you mean? First of all, there is no consequence for any of the Israelis errors.

And that's exactly right. And that is why he has become far too arrogant. So that is why he's being messy with his propaganda. So normally people would tackle him before he said something this dumb, right? But he's so arrogant now, he's like, I will tell Maga what to think, and you will follow my orders. Good luck, brother. Good luck. A lot of tried. Not many have succeeded. Well, why don't we get to how he came to this pronouncement. So as I said, he was speaking with Breitbart News, and they asked him this, saying,

anti-Semitism has been rising around the world, and many of us had become used to seeing it on the extreme left. Okay, whatever. Okay, moving right along, I guess. But now it does seem to be rising on the right as well. the first time in history, I think. But anyway, there are in the United States certain popular conservative commentators who appear to have drifted in that direction. Is it religiously based somehow? Where is it coming from, in your view, and how do you stop it? And he said, some of these people call themselves Maga. They're not Maga. If you support Iran, Iran tried to kill President Trump twice, not once, but twice. Iran has put a price on his head,

That's Iran. Iran has murdered, has killed and wounded more Americans, thousands of them in Iraq and in Afghanistan with their explosive devices. So just I we're gonna cruise past the idea that those two guys who seemed to be conservative Republicans are Iranian assassins. But anyway, Israel is fighting Iran and you can't be Maga if you're pro-Iran. You can't be Maga if you're anti-Israel. President Trump understands this and he stands very strongly with us. And that is my favorite part of this, where he's not just saying, I will tell you if you're magy, then says, yeah, and Trump's got my back, don't you, Trump? Say I'm great, say I'm the best, say that I call the shots. And we'll see, maybe Trump will in the end. Maybe he'll go on true

social and be like, yeah, if you're anti-Israel, you can't be mug or whatever. And of course, again, another thing we have to just blow past is the idea that if you pose the current military strategy of Israel or the currently constituted government of Israel, then you're anti-Israel. You're against the country and its people if you just disagree with its government. That's like core classic propaganda. So I'm not surprised to see it here. But Steve Vannan did not take kindly to these remarks. He wrote on Gator, American citizens do not give two Fs about your thoughts on MAGA or what our citizens need to believe. They care about exposing your pathological lies in order to

keep us out of your next war. And I have no idea why every word is capitalized in that. But I do like that he's standing up for his movement. And we can get into what APEC is saying, some of the other representatives, but Steve Bannon at least is implying, I guess, that Maga's gonna stick with him, not with Netanyahu, and maybe Trump, where do you see this shaking out? Yeah, so lot to comment here. So first off, starting with Netanyahu's comments, number one, he said, Iran is killing Americans.

Israel has killed nine Americans since 2022. So in just the last three years, the accountability for that so far is zero because Netanyahu does in this case rightfully think I own the US government, whether it's Biden or Donald Trump, I can kill American citizens all I want and you're not going to do a goddamn thing about it. Actually, you're gonna send me bigger checks because you don't have a choice. So now he's taking that what he does with politicians and applying it to the voters. And that's where the mistake is.

You could do that with the politicians super easily because APAC and other Israeli lobby has donated to literally 90% of our Congress, 90%. So he owns them lock, stock and barrel. If you're a moronic mainstream media reporter who says, oh no, I bet the millions of dollars don't affect the politicians, I can't help you because you're not on this planet, okay? So on top of that, they might or might not have blackmail from, you know, sources that we've gone over before, right? So he's got him completely locked down. And so he feels like he boss anyone around. But when it comes to the voters, you don't get to just yell at him and call them anti-Semitic

and have to do the stupid tricks you do with mainstream media reporters and get them to all heel. Because they don't have a dog in the fight. They don't, it's not like, oh, okay, I'm gonna get you fired from your job. Brother, you don't even know me, man. You can't get me fired. You can't get me arrested or deported. I mean, if you knew about me, you probably could, right? But you don't.

I just have a private opinion, whether I'm on the left or the right. And so in the case of Maga, it's literally called Make America Great Again, and they have a movement called America First, and now Netanyahu's going, saying, oh, yeah, you just backhanded slap across Maga's face, go, no, Israel first, America later. And yeah, but brother, again, you don't, you're not giving them money and you're not, and you have no blackmail over them. So why the hell would they listen to you in your infinite arrogance? Okay, second thing he said that it jumped out at me. Iran tried to assassinate Trump twice. Nonsense, nonsense. One thousand percent propaganda never presented a single piece of evidence over it.

They just say it, him and Mark Levine and like just giant liars who are like, oh, yeah, Iran is constantly trying to assassinate Trump. But they're trying to kill him right now. You better attack Iran. Otherwise, Trump's going to die. No, no, no, look, dude, you're the one who gave him the pager, the golden pager. If Trump is under thread from anyone, it ain't Iran, okay? And curiously, you went to go talk to him, and before he was checking you on a number of things. And then right after you talked to him last time you came, all of a sudden, Trump's back to being a little puppy dog.

So that's why he's like, oh, yeah, I will order Trump to order you guys to put Israel first. Brother, I mean, that used to work, and maybe that worked in his first term. And that still certainly works for some of them. But I talk to them a decent amount, and they do not seem to be in a mood to get ordered, even if it's from Trump on this particular issue. And then the point that John made it's hilarious, right, anti-semitism rising on the right. No, brother, the anti-semitism that existed, and there is real anti-semitism, was almost always on the right, right?

So those are the guys who were like the neo-Nazis, the Jews will not replace us, etc. It doesn't mean that they represent all the right. Don't catch feelings, okay? I'm just talking about fringes. Like when you talk about their extreme fringes, obviously the extreme fringe of the right is the one that hate, that is proudly, you know, white supremacists, et cetera, et cetera. It might be a smaller group, but it's a group, right?

And it's not on the left, it's on the right. So what's the left believe? They believe in like weird or terrible things like equality. So they say, you know, the Palestinians are equal to the Israelis. Oh my God, you want to piss off Net and Yahoo. That's the number one thing. You say, how dare you? I get to murder 60 of them for one Israeli, okay?

You can't ever say that Palestinian lives equal to Israeli lives. And you better, you better all listen to me. Okay, brother, okay, yeah, you can say all this crap. And you can go on those kiss-ass shows and have them go, oh yeah, oh, where would you like to go? Burger King or McDonald's. Oh, we love you. Please take all of our money.

I mean, don't take my money. Take average American taxpayers money, please. But you haven't murdered enough palestinies. You can do all this stuff, but it ain't going to work. And no, guys, but the one thing that is true is, and you see how they're equating Israel with a critique of Israel with anti-Semitism, even if a Jewish person does it. They're like, yeah, it doesn't matter. This is just the talking point, and we'll just get idiots to repeat it for us anyway,

all over mainstream media, and now some of the loser right-wingers who we now control like puppy ducks, ask me stupid questions, easy questions, don't do follow-ups. Oh, yes, sir, yes, sir, right? So yeah, you can do that with everybody, but with those guys. But the rest of online media exists. The rest of humanity exists, and you've lost control of the message. So no, man, and a perfect example is, I mean, a lot of them, Marjorie Taylor Green, Tom Massey, Matt Gates, we're going to get to all of those. But Bannon, banon's saying, and Bannon, and this is why it's important, guys, I was never predisposed to, oh my God, I think Israel is the greatest country in the world.

I think they should have more rights than other people. I was, I think the occupation is lovely and even though it's a dictatorial occupation, I'll call it a democracy. I was never in that camp, right? But a lot of the right wing thought leaders were, Bannon was super soft on Israel before. So now all of a sudden, Ben is like, who are you telling what to, right? And you shouldn't, you're not surprised because he's the whole thing as America first, right? But at the same time, he never said that to Israel before.

The reason he's saying it and so many of the others are saying it are because it's bubbling up, bubbling up on the right. The right is now getting super sick of being told what they must do and how they must give all their money to Israel, and they must not complain about it. And if they do, that there's going to be consequences. So they're not in the mood for that. By the way, for us, we've always believed, okay? Louis Palestine, if you support the Palestinian cause, we are with you, because the Palestinian

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And I can tell you from firsthand experience, and I know you and John both notice, and many of our regular viewers on TYT, what I had to go through. And it was really literally that kind of stuff. I was literally told as a candidate in 21, and the special election, in 21 in Ohio 11th and also in 22, that Palestinians had no rights that the Israeli government must respect. And as a candidate, there was no difference between me and the next top competitor in the race on domestic issues. It was only my position that both peoples, Israelis and Palestinians have a right to self-determination. Both people have a right. People's have a right to live

safely and securely. And that was a bridge too far. And that was way before October the seventh. So to see these folks really stand up. And then Rep. Massey, who has done a video, I encourage our audience, if they've never seen the video, I forget where he was interviewing, but he said that APEC assigns a person to every member of Congress, to watch over them, to lord over them, basically. And he said, I don't know what happens on the Democratic side. He said, but this is what happens on the Republican side. And trust and believe, it happens on all sides of that Congress. So I love to see it. Good, good for all of them. Yeah. So guys, in a minute, I want to give you some of the details of Senator Nina Turner's race in Cleveland,

because it really is instructive. And they did something similar to many people, including Andy Levin in Michigan as well. And for the same reason, they're for a two state solution. And Israel says, no, we demand only one state. And Palestine should never exist. And anyone who says Palestine should exist will be eliminated from American politics. So I want to come back to those details after we show you the interesting new bipartisanship on this. Yes, let's jump into some of these comments, including first the official Twitter APAC account had responded to one of Marjorie Green's tweets referencing the ongoing genocide in Gaza, and they they called her the dirtiest thing they could think of, full squad, and that's supposed to really sting calling her like a woman of color. Like is that I mean, I guess traditionally

that might be considered on the right sort of the worst thing you could be, but it's strange here that she's the same thing now as AOC because she can acknowledge a genocide. They say same message, same legislation, same anti-Israel vision. The horrible war is only happening because Hamas refuses to free the hostages and surrender power. That's the only reason thousands and thousands and thousands of kids are being killed constantly. They're being starved every day. It's all because of Hamas. Hamas, I guess, is blocking the trucks from coming in. Yet MTG and her friends in the squad won't take any pressure or action to pressure Hamas to end it. Why? And she responded, instead of lying about me, have all you

foreign agents at APEC registered under Farriette? Not only are you a bunch of liars, you are breaking the law, which is not a bad point. And although obviously, I think traditionally it's very clear that I disagree with Marjorie Green on, I think every other issue, I'm going to give her special credit, even over the other Republicans in this section. Because, like, Steve, Steve Bannon saying, you know, don't drag us into your next war or whatever is, yeah, that's good, that's not supportive of these wars. But Green is one of the few Republicans that's actually spoken about the people of Gaza, like as humans who are suffering, and that that suffering itself is a reason to oppose this. We're not just non-interventionists. We're not just like,

yeah, whatever the hell happens you. I just don't want to be involved. That's easy, I think. But Green has actually, like, talked about the suffering. And I like that. I'd like to normally that a little bit on the right. Thomas Massey said regardless of how many politicians you contribute to, speaking to APEC, Israel is losing the public relations campaign for its war in Gaza due to its indiscriminate bombing and tens of thousands of civilian casualties, which is just an objective fact. And Matt Gates says, APEC thinks it's an attack on MTG to accuse her of sharing the squad's unwillingness to be slavishly loyal to Israel. But what this attack reveals is that APEC has so badly overplayed their hand that they now have real problems on the political left and

right. The post literally advertises their greatest weakness growing bipartisan opposition. MTG isn't some outlier here. Support for Israel is that a historic doldrum specifically or precisely because APEC has driven division, war, and chaos. They should register as the foreign agents they are. I proudly stand with MTG and my fellow Americans. Okay, so a lot of interesting development. So then I write in response to Matt Gates's tweet that John just read you, Apex is accidentally bringing grassroots left and right together. and exposing how almost any lobby can buy our politicians. So ironically, APAC has done us a favor by showing how over the top corrupt our politicians are

that it exposes the entire systemic problem, right? And then Gates writes back, Jenk is correct about this, okay? So all of a sudden, APAC has accidentally brought the right and the left together. I mean, you want to talk about that point, we had Marjor Taylor Green on the show, which was unique, and interesting and different. And we had her on because of this topic. And it looked like she was going to head in this direction. And in fact, she had blocked a bill saying that you are not allowed to boycott Israel.

And if you do, there'll be severe consequences in America. And I was impressed that she actually took action and blocked that bill. So we talked about the issue here. And she was very good on it. And she's gotten better and better on it as we went along. And she asked at the end of that interview for a favor, which is can you get John Adoroa to say something nice about me? Well, you earned it, Marjorie.

There you go, okay, Johnman was hard to get, but he did say it. And because really her tweets on this and her actions on this have been terrific. And so we can disagree with her on everything else, but there's no reason to turn down allies who are coming 100% in your direction. So much so that they've got Netanyahu panicked and APAC panicked. So that is a good day in America. Now I wanna go back to Nina. So she was running in Cleveland and Nina, correct me anywhere where I got a little bit wrong. And so she had this gigantic lead, a 35 point lead or so.

And she was running against 11 Lilliputians. And then I say that because I literally saw the polling numbers 2%, 1%, 4%, etc. And one of them decides to put something on our website that says how much she loves, supports, and will never disagree with Israel. And then all of a sudden, a giant amount of money shows up in that race against Nina Turner. In the first race, Nina, I thought it was about $4 million. So a lot of different Israeli lobby groups, the biggest one in that race, to my recollection, was Democratic majority for Israel, which I thought was hilarious. Because I thought you guys were running for a seat in Cleveland.

But apparently it was for a seat in Israel, because literally the name of the group is Democratic majority for Israel. And so that goes to Marjorie Taylor Green's point. Brother, you're for Israel. It's in your title. APEC has Israel in its title. So don't tell me that you're not doing this on behalf of foreign government. And it's not like you're doing it for Norway or Peru. You're doing it for Israel.

So this is clear cut. When I found out my friend got a great deal on a lot. wool coat from winners, I started wondering. Is every fabulous item I see from winners? Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. Are those from winners? Ooh, are those beautiful gold

earrings? Did she pay full price? Or that leather tote? Or that cashmere sweater? Or those knee-high boots? That dress, that jacket, those shoes. Is anyone paying full price for anything? Stop wondering. Start winning. Winners, find fabulous for less. So what, tell us about your experience, what I got right and wrong there, Nina, in your race.

Yeah, you, you got the gist of it, right. Jank, it was a 30 point lead in May of 2021, 11 people in the race, and they walked me down. They took the person that's in the seat right now as their person. She put a red box up on her website so that she, her campaign could send them. messages to a super PAC, because you're not supposed to coordinate directly. And by the time that special election happened, she had walked me all the way down, millions of dollars between, yeah, and you're right, it was the Democratic majority for Israel that did the majority of spending. A lot of donors here in the greater Cleveland area on the Republican side donated to

her campaign as well. And in that primary, 4,000 Republicans crossed over in the special election during that primary, and that's just about how many votes she won in that special election of 2021. The blueprint for how to defeat progressives like myself. And again, our viewers have to understand this was way before October 7th. All I was doing was standing up for humanity, which I do and also standing up for my district. I can tell you, I met with folks who told me to my face that there were very few differences between the two of us on domestic issues. The the difference was about Israel. When I said I'm running for the 11th congressional district, they told me that they did not care.

Absolutely did not care that they give enough money to the black community and support of the black community, even though the district is definitely mixed, but the black community. And so therefore, it was really about support for Israel, which I did not, you know, the right wing government of Israel is different from the people of Israel itself. And in this country, we have a right to redress our government. We have a right to argue back and forth with our government before a foreign agent to basically blow down the way they're blowing down right now, the way they blew down in my race, the way they blew down in Congresswoman Bush's race and Congressman Bowman's race. I need our viewers to understand anybody else that that blueprint was crafted in Ohio 11th in 2021. and then again during the regular lecture cycle of 2022. But can you imagine somebody saying to you and especially to a black woman that there's virtually no difference between you and the other person, even though there was 11 people in the race, it really only came down to two of us.

And that we only care about what you have to say about Israel, which I only said peace and justice, security for both peoples. That's all I've ever said. And that was a bridge too far in 21 and also in 20. And they walked me down. I had supporters. I want to, Jink and John, I definitely got to shout out Jewish voices for peace, both nationally and in the city of Cleveland, who came to my rescue time and time again, and other of my Jewish sisters and brothers and family and friends who actually supported me and understood what was going on. There's a daylight between 21 and 22 where the kind of synergy and energy that we have right now, as you both know, it was not there from me. But I am really glad that it is here now and I am absolutely glad to see some of our sisters and brothers and family and friends on the right.

We got to be mature enough to agree on what we can agree on, really stepping forward. If you're really America first, then you won't allow no foreign entity, no foreign government, no matter who they are, to come and boss around the American people in the way that APAC and Democratic majority for Israel and others have been allowed to do. And Jake, I will say when I ran that second time, as you know, people were, they were hurt. They were hurt. They were jilted. They, they, they, they, they, they wore them down. And so it was a harder fight in 22 than it was in 21 because of how that money poured in and how Republicans jumped over to, to support the person that is in that seat right now. And yes, to date, she has received over $4 million from the APEC lobby. Yeah, so look, guys, I mean, last couple things here. First, you know, as we say a million times on the show, it's got nothing to do with religion as everything new with a foreign government. No. Not only are there hundreds, maybe thousands of Jewish American heroes fighting for peace and justice in Palestine that we could literally name right now between the three of us. But Murray Newman was attacked in the same exact way. And she was a congresswoman

from Illinois. Her husband's Jewish. They don't give it damn. right they and then but more you know clearly Andy Levin from a pretty much a legendary Jewish political family in Michigan it was a house member all he said was of course he's for Israel and for Israel safety security etc all he said was we should do a two-state solution that's actually official US policy they targeted him spent millions of dollars defeated him and so if they They are very clear, if you are not 100% in favor of whatever government Israel has, you're to be eliminated from American politics.

And that is ironically bringing the right and the left together. Like we should do an honest caucus. I mean, there won't be very many people in it. Because look, the things that we disagree with Marjorie Taylor Green on, she's also honest about. Just, but in a kind of shocking way. Like meaning like immigration, her views, we are not at all in favor of, but it's not like she's pulling punches, right? She's not pulling punches in that regard.

And so when she doesn't pull punches and we disagree with her, we go to war over that. But when she's doing it in this case for justice and what's right, great, and what brings us together is not our agreement across the board, but it's our agreement that we should be representing the voters and and not any donor from any country or any corporation. So, so in that sense, it's a very rare. I also want to add to, I want people to remember, you know, when Senator Sanders was running as well, light years ago it seems, but he was called a self-hating Jew often. You know, often.

And I remember one time we were coming through Cleveland Hopkins Airport, this lady stopped the senator and put her finger, you know, tried to put her finger in his face. I don't know, you know, racial, ethnic identity. I'm assuming it was a Jewish person, assuming I want to make that clear. And she was complaining about Linda Sorcer and calling her anti-Semite. And the senator stopped her in her tracks and said absolutely not. You know, but this is what she just jumped right in front of him. So that's the kind of person that we're dealing with too in Senator Bernie Sanders. And also, we know a lot of my dear Benjamin and Cold Pink and so many others of people just from different walks of life and identities coming together to stand up for

humanity. And you were on that trip with me most of the time. I mean, what pains me the most is that you talk about being a humanitarian. I mean, that's how I roll. And, you know, just, I mean, say you disagree with some of the policies I believe in, but to send emails out all across the country, raising money, calling me an anti-Semite. But then what they did in district, though, they public, they didn't use that. Now, they used that to raise money nationally, but what they did within the district is to say I was not sufficiently loyal to the Democratic party. And that was going to be a problem for President Biden. And, you know, some choice words that I said during, after 2020 primary about the difference between President Trump and President

Biden before it became President Biden. So I just need people to understand that if the were on the other foot and it was Americans being slaughtered like this, you would want a group of people to come together despite the other things that they disagree on and say that enough is enough that this is not right. And so again, I am thrilled and Jink, you're laying it out. We probably don't agree with much with that band of people on the right. But the things, this is not about what we disagree on. This is about the things that we do agree on. And this is about humanity itself, whether it's in the Gaza, whether it is in the Congo, the Sudan, other places that are disrupted in this world because of geopolitics, we should be courageous

enough to lock arm and arm on those issues and say that this is not right. 100%. I'll just last couple things to back up what Senator Turner is saying. So another Israel supporting group in the 2000s put together a list of 8,000 so-called self-hating Jews. And they targeted them to get them fired and their lives ruined for criticizing Israel. And just this week, Jamie Raskin joined an effort to stop offensive weapons to Israel. And they immediately sent out a newsletter attacking Jamie Raskin, who's also Jewish. So it has nothing to do with whether you're on the right, the left, Jewish, Muslim, or Christian. They have only one priority.

America must obey Israel. Well, now America, united, right, left, and every religion has the same message back to APEC and Netanyahu. and it's this. So this is what you accidentally created. So an ironic thank you. Why don't we take our first break? It's Rona Week. Now until Wednesday. And the best part, we're ready to help you extend your summer. You know the saying the grass is always greener on the other side? Well, this summer, make sure it's your side of the lawn. Head to Rona today for 5.2 kilograms of Scots turf builder fall lawn fertilizer at only 1499.

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Drew Wilson gifted 50. So much love Drew, really, really appreciate it. I'm just gonna give one comment here from t.y.com member, Susie Greenberg. She wrote in, The Jewish religion teaches about equality, love, and taking care of the world. Israel is doing the opposite of what I always learned. Susie, thank you for keeping the flame of true Judaism alive. And that's the Jewish culture that I grew up around when I grew up in New Jersey. My town's about half Jewish. And I loved it.

That's why I love Jewish culture. And what Israel's doing now doesn't resemble it at all. You're right. Yvall Harari is right. And a lot of good smart folks are saying the same thing. And decent moral folks are saying the same thing. All right, John, what's next? Okay, let's turn to a very worrying topic.

Susan Menares was confirmed as the new director of the CDC in July, but after just one month on the job, she has already been fired, and I'm sure you're dying to know why. Well, it's because she, a scientist with years of experience and infectious disease, disagreed with RFK Jr., a moron with years of experience serving as worm food on the topic of vaccines. And And look, the drama of how exactly it came to her being fired is complex. But in short, effectively, RFK Jr. said during his confirmation hearings, that despite a lifetime of evidence to the contrary, on the topic of vaccines, he actually has an open mind.

And he's not gonna come in already having decided anything about what should happen with vaccines. That was a lie. So he got into the office, he banned a red dye or something so that the Instagram wellness people would get off his back. And then he turned to his true passion, which is getting rid of everyone inside of the CDC or health and human services that knows anything about vaccines or is even capable or interested in reading the academic literature. And so Menores as the head of the CDC was pursued by Kennedy to sign on to utterly changing the government recommendations having to do with the coronavirus

vaccine, not based on any new science or anything like that. And in fact, when other top CDC officials asked what exactly they're basing these recommendations on, they were told we're not going to present anything to you. It's based on literally nothing except for their ideology. Well, she's an actual scientist and so she said no. Now, they try to pressure her to resign. She turned to Senator Bill Cassidy, who was like the deciding vote on RFK Jr. And it seemed like he could have gone either way. And they didn't like that, RFK Jr didn't like that. And so they put more pressure and more pressure until finally they fired her and her lawyers have put out a response to that saying when cdc director minares

refused to rubber stamp unscientific reckless directives and fired dedicated health experts she chose protecting the public over serving a political agenda for that reason she has been targeted and that was the reason it's why she is now gone and she is not the only one dozens of top officials have either resigned or been fired entire advisory boards of experts on vaccines have been wiped out by RFK Jr. and ideological lackeys have been put into their place. And this is the reshaping of the CDC and HHS that everyone who had paid even like a little bit of attention to RFK Jr. knew was coming and it's coming very quickly. Jank, what do you think? Yeah. So look, I've been extraordinarily open to RFK Jr. And here's what I mean by that. I don't mean today.

I don't mean the job that he's done in health and human services. I mean, when he started running within the Democratic Party and then as an independent, first of all, we had him on the show, and we gave him a fair hearing, challenged him on the things I don't agree with, found out some interesting things that we do agree with on lowering housing prices, on corruption, et cetera, right? And then when he came into office, you know, as the cabinet secretary, I was still open and I said, look, this is your golden opportunity now. You've been saying that you're gonna prove the vaccines don't work your whole life, right?

Or whatever it is that you think you're saying, because he keeps saying, no, he's pro-vaccine, and then does the exact opposite. So I guess he said that to get confirmation, you know, get past confirmation hearings, et cetera. But it doesn't matter because you're in charge now. So you can actually prove, and that's what I said in the beginning, go ahead and prove to us through science that you're right and all of the other doctors and scientists, are wrong. So I mean, you've got this amazing opportunity. You never get any time else. And so now we check back in, has he done that? Nope. Hasn't done that at all? Has it presented a single

piece of evidence, hasn't looked at a single legitimate study or ordered a legitimate study, etc. He's got a couple of cooks that he's referring to, but even they haven't presented any evidence. And so now when you say to me, Susan Monerres, who was by the way appointed by Donald, Trump and confirmed easily by the Senate and is, you know, by all accounts, a great expert on this issue, you just fire her summarily without even asking her. I mean, she's at one of the most important roles underneath you, period, maybe the second most important person. And so normally, if that person was reporting to me and she just got in, the confirmation

took a while, et cetera, right? I would say, okay, so then if we're having a real conversation, what are you thinking about vaccines? What is, what's the, you know, the sign you want to defend? And I'd get a whole bunch of people in the building and I'd have a conversation about it. I'd have presentations, I'd have both sides present. Instead, he's like, okay, you're fired. What? Hold on you don't even know my views yet and, oh yeah, you're pro-vaccic, get the hell out of here. And now my kooky guys over there, yeah, I believe them.

But brother, you didn't show any evidence yet. So no, no, it turns out you're totally full of crap. And so maybe he turns around, but that is very unlikely at this point. And so he's revealing who he really is. And so for all the people who called him a clown and a bozo, here we are. I mean, you're the secretary and you have presented a single piece of evidence. And all you're doing is firing the top experts. And by the way, one last thing about it for now, like,

It's not like he showed any wrongdoing. It's like if he said, okay, look, look, look, yeah, I didn't ask her for what she thinks, et cetera, but like, here is something she did that was against science or against health or whatever. No, nothing. No, I just, no, you're a pro vaccine. So is everyone else. So it's like 99% of scientists and doctors. Ah, you're fired. Okay, then you're an idiot.

So the jury's come in. Good luck on appeal, but the jury has definitively come in now on RFKJ. And if you said, hey, the jury, my jury had come in earlier, okay, fair, no problem. All I'm saying is, I've got an open mind, and if he was, so, and that applies to everyone on the left, the right, et cetera, if you can present evidence, I am very wary of big pharma and giant corporations and them telling us and through both themselves and our politicians, what's good for us, when the drug company sells, we have to pay whatever price they demand and we can't negotiate prices, and you tell me big farmers doing something wrong, I'm all open.

I couldn't be more open to that argument, right? But then on politics, we presented, Big Pharma purchased all these politicians, and the result you see here is that we can't negotiate drug prices. Here's a couple of hundred million dollars they put into buying our politicians. Here's a couple of trillion dollars they're getting in return, right? Extended monopolies, et cetera, et cetera. That's evidence. This is not evidence.

You don't like you, you're fired. What the hell is that? So it turns out he was a clown from day one. All right, Nina. Yeah, I mean, he's following in the footsteps of President Donald J. Trump, obviously with this action. And Jay, I think it's wise for us to have an open mind, give people an opportunity, and certainly RFK Jr.,

as well as everybody else that had the courage to run in that race, deserve to have for all of us to have an open mind. This is most disappointing. It is destructive and it could end up being dangerous. You want experts on diseases in these positions and you want to get understanding. This is not, you know, he's treating this like it's his own individual crusade or, and you know, and I get when you're a private citizen, he was on a crusade. But now that he is in a cabinet position, his position should be to get the science. to get the facts and to question. There's nothing wrong with questioning.

Jake, you make an excellent, excellent point about the pharmaceutical companies and how they're just petling drugs. In some cases, RFK Jr. may be correct about some of this stuff. But then you don't go and, as you put, just summarily fire the expert on these issues just because you want to have a temper tantrum. And his temper tantrum is and could put millions of people in harm's way. in jeopardy. And even if it doesn't happen today, five days from now, 10 days from now, at some point, these kind of decisions are going to catch up with us all and has ramifications beyond our shores. You don't play with disease in this way. So just very disappointing the RFK Jr. I had an open mind about him too, Jink. You know, I really, really did. And I

thought it was wrong for the Democrats to ignore him. I thought it was wrong for them not to reach out to him after the primary, they should have went to get RFK Jr., all the things. But that, we're going to separate that from how he is compoiting himself in this position right now. Most disappointing, and it goes beyond individual disappointment. This is about the impact that that role has on all of us, both in the United States of America and the world, because disease is no, no borders and no boundaries. Yeah, I don't think anyone is ready for how bad it's going to be. if there's another pandemic like random chance act of God if there and it was terrible the first time when there was an actual health infrastructure and like Fauci was there or whatever and we

had the resources they hadn't been defunded they were actual scientists and the republican base wasn't like like concrete hard against anything being done to stop the spread of illness but now all that's done CDC's going to be utterly irrelevant so be filled with quacks and cooks that's it HHS is going to be ideologically opposed to doing anything. Donald Trump has already been booed for promoting vaccines and stuff like that. He's not going to make that mistake again. Fox News is utterly, again, concrete hard against taking any of this seriously. And so if we get a pandemic, man, buckle up.

Nobody has any idea how bad it can get with these chuckleheads in charge. Yeah, so you said act of God, you know, it could break out because of an act of of God or an act of the Wuhan virology lab or whatever it might be. So look, I will do a challenge back to RFK Jr. So he had constantly wanted a debate on vaccines with some of the top experts. And in fact, well before 2024, about a decade earlier, I knew him, he asked me to try to set up that debate. I tried and couldn't do it, okay? Because The folks who are from the, you know, official circles and real scientists and doctors didn't want to entertain Bobby Kennedy Jr. Well, now he's the head of health and human

services. So Bobby, right back at you now. So would you debate Susan Monaras on vaccines on the young Turks? I extend the invitation to both of you. My guess is not that he's in power, he ain't going to debate anybody, okay? He's going to run for the hills and he's going to do whatever he wants. He's going to fire whoever is making sense. He's not going to present any evidence. And he's just going to do his, you know, pet peeve project that he's had for his whole life. And then if it turns out he's wrong, says he doesn't have any evidence. Well, it's not his health on the line. It's our health on the line. Yeah. So it's absurd. You're supposed to be protecting our health, not making it worse.

And by the way, what happened all the stuff about, oh, you're gonna get better diet and we're gonna, you're gonna go after big food and all the processed foods and stuff? That sounded interesting. Oh, right, they're huge donors, and all of a sudden, there's none of that talk, okay? So all the positive stuff flushed down the toilet, whatever existed. And by the way, you know, the first thing that he talked about when he first got in office was the most important thing for America's health was to make sure you're agree with Israel. And I'm not making it up. It was from the health and human

services. So I don't know what he's on and how much damage the brainworms did, but protecting Israel has nothing to do with our health. It might have something to do with his health. I don't know what that's about, but it doesn't have anything to do with our health. So right now his stewardship of HHS has been an epic disaster. Yeah. When we take our final break, we'll come back with more after this. All right back on TYT, Jank, John and Nina with you. And also Sonny, who just joined on YouTube and Edwin Baez.

Thank you for giving a membership. Appreciate it, John. Okay, let's have a little bit of our brand of fun, starting with this. Dave Weigel, the great Dave Weigel, it's some of the for breaking a big story, the lead story over in Semaphore, wait for it. Republican voters now 5347 support President Trump running for a third term. I kid you not. I told you this day was coming.

Of course. So that of course is Steve Bannon, just delighting in the fact that the GOP is choosing its love for dear leader Donald Trump over their supposed respect for the Constitution. And despite the fact that it's the most clear thing in politics that Trump cannot run for a third term, they're like, yeah, no, he should. Actually, we would prefer that. And of course, Steve Bannon wants that. Dude hates democracy. He would love to set it aside and rule forever with Donald Trump. But thankfully, while Republicans narrowly want Donald Trump to run for a third term, everyone who is not a Republican absolutely despises the idea. And so only 27% of the country at large,

which is less than what I consider to be like the Maga base even of like 32, 33%. So not even all of them think he should. Only 6% of Democrats think he should. Maybe they think they're being clever and they think that he would lose. I don't know. 17% of independence. So here, independence, as in so many things in polling these months. I don't know if you've noticed the pattern. Independence look way more like Democrats than they do like Republicans in this. 53% of Republicans think he should run. Now, a slightly different question is, do you think he will actually run?

And there, both Democrats and independents are more likely to say yes than Republicans are. Exactly half of independents and the majority of Democrats think that he will. And if they think that, maybe that's because Trump constantly says that he's going to and all of his supporters like Steve Bannon keeps saying that he should and they all seem to love the idea of it. That said, it doesn't mean that it's going to happen even if Donald Trump did want to run again in 2028. There is an obstacle to that. It's that he would have to live that long.

And so it might not actually happen, but there does seem to be a growing desire on the right for it to happen. Jank, what do you think? Yeah, so unfortunately, I again share a part of Steve Bannon's opinion, which is told you, yeah, he wants to run, Bannon wants him to run, bunch of Republicans want him to run, they don't respect the Constitution at all. The part I obviously disagree with is that he should run. No, he should not run ridiculous.

So look, we're doing a, but I'll give you some nuance on it. First of all, we're doing a poll on t.com. What do you think about Trump running for a third term? A, if he gets a constitutional amendment, it's fine. B, if he tries without an amendment, he's an un-American piece of, you know what? C's A plus B, a rare answer for us. And then D is who cares about the constitution? Let's just start making up laws.

Okay, so some of you, I guess, might be in that category, including Steve Bannon. So, look, guys, there is a way to get past the constitutional block on running more than twice. And that is a constitutional amendment. So good luck. Nobody's stopping you, and that's perfectly legal. Go for it, okay? You're going to need three quarters of states to ratify, and if you think you're going to get 13 blue states to say, Yeah, let's just, but by the way, I mean, maybe you would because then Obama would be back in the game, right?

So be careful what you wish for. But anyways, it's in a realistic world, of course that's not going to happen. So if you're not going to do it the legal way, I have a question, what way are you going to do it? Because the Constitution is not unclear about this. It is crystal clear. And so, you know, if you want here, I'll tell you, okay, your graphic three. How is this for clear? Section 1 of 22nd Amendment, no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. The end. Okay, so what are you going to do? So the only other option is to be lawless to destroy the Constitution.

And that means you hate America and you you hate our system. I don't mean the system that the establishment has, one of corruption. We don't like that either. I mean our constitutional republic. So I need you to be honest about it. Like MAGA prides itself on saying whatever the hell they want, right? And sometimes that winds up being a decent thing when they, you know, flip on Epstein and some as we described earlier in the show now, you know, challenging Israel. A lot of times it's disastrous when they're super honest. But here, tell us, what's your honest plan? Is it to break the law? Is it to burn the Constitution?

Is it to say that you don't care about the Constitution or this country? And you just like to have an authoritarian form of government? That's what the left was worried about. And it sounds like with Steve Bannon and Donald Trump, but now 53% of Republicans going, yeah, screw the Constitution, who cares? I mean, you're telling on yourself, you're provenest right. So unfortunately, this is exactly what we weren't about. Last thing for me for now is guys, I debated, I don't know, half a dozen, a dozen.

A lot of conservatives right before the election about Trump versus Kamala Harris. And my main argument to them was he does not value the Constitution at all. He's set to terminate it after he lost in 2020. And obviously after he lost, he tried to basically do a coup to get back in charge because he doesn't care about democracy and he doesn't care about the Constitution. That was a rare thing from the Democrats that was not just a talking point, it was actually true, right? And they said, oh no, no, no, he'll respect the Constitution, he loves the Constitution.

And here we are, go, no, who cares with the Constitution? I want to be charged. And by the way, tons and tons of right winger is going, power is power. Yeah, who cares about America, who cares about, they don't say who cares about America or democracy, although some of them now do say like, ah, democracy, no, no, no, we're a republic, wink, wink, wink, wink. Like, no, brother, but republic means democracy. Democracy is within a constitutional republic.

That's, so like, you think you're being clever, but what you're doing is, you're setting up an excuse to go authoritarian. So if you hate democracy or you hate America. or you hate our constitution, be honest about it. Don't be a little bitch and pretend that you don't hate it because you obviously do. And you value Trump more than you value America. So do us the favor of being honest. All right, Nina, what do you think?

I mean, yeah, we're national laws until we're not. You know, I love that talking point that the right uses on other things, particularly in this point, immigration. We're national laws, you know, or law and order. But that goes right out the window when it comes to whether or not President Donald J. Trump should run a third term without following the pattern that you laid out, Jink, which would make it legal, is to have that constitutional convention and amend the Constitution. So they're basically saying, no worries. And, you know, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And it really, people get inebriated by it. It is very seductive. And we're seeing this play out in real time. these same people, I bet you are the people who are about law and order in other places and other phases in this country, but not when it comes to this. They are absolutely willing. It seems to defy the United States Constitution.

And in the same, I'll just my final point, in the same way that I think Trump continually making a joke of it sort of normalizes it for a lot of regular right wingers, Trump also seems to be feeding off of them too. I mean, twice in the last week, he's like, you know, some people call me a dictator, but if I stop crime, am I really a dictator? Maybe it's a good thing to be a dictator, whatever. Like that, for him, like even, that's pretty open, like sort of talking about maybe our system of government isn't what it once was. Yeah, he always adds. Sorry, Nina, what were you going to say? No, it's just, it's seductive. And that's why he's, he's, he's priming the pump, if you will. Yeah. You know, to John's point. Yeah,

I was going to say testing the waters, same thing, right? So like, yeah, the right wing will often excuse it with, oh, he's just trolling, he's just having fun with it, oh, you guys are falling for it, et cetera. No, he's testing the waters. So that's why he says, no, I'm not a dictator, but some people are saying they want a dictator. Some people think that a dictator would handle crime better, right? That's his way of testing the waters, right? I don't know if I'm going to run for a third or two, but I could do whatever I want. The president could do anything he wants. It's not true. That's not our system, right? So, and by the way, if you think, oh, he's just trolling, you guys are being ridiculous.

Then why did 53% of Republicans say that they want them to do it? Are they trolling too? Okay, that's a very convenient excuse whenever you get caught being an American. Okay, all right, we're out of time. All right, thank you, Nina. Great to have you on. Everybody check out damage report every day. We appreciate it.

I don't know, Jing, does that work for us? Can we just say we're trolling? Would that work for us? Oh, yeah, yeah. No, but that's the thing, if we did, which by the way, a lot of times I am joking. And when I, in fact, when I do it, when I'm actually joking and obviously joking, they still say, no, it doesn't count. No, we're going to take it literally, right? So exact opposite. But also mainstream media, that's the same thing.

But anyways, all right, we got to run. But when we come back, guys, got a lot of amazing stories for you all, including Mike Johnson and so many Republicans and saying, of course the real problem isn't guns, okay? No, no, the real problem is liberals. That's why we have mad, and trans people. That's why we have mass shootings. Because you remember how, you know, I want to save it for the story, but we've all these hundreds of mass shooters we've covered on the young Turks alone.

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