The Young Turks - MAGA Vs. Pope - May 8, 2025

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month Shopify trial and start selling today at ⁠shopify.com/tyt A new Pope was chosen and right-wingers are livid. Howard Lutnick kisses Trump’s butt for UK trade deal. President Donald Trump taps wellness influencer Casey Means for surgeon general. Laura Loomer calls Attorney General Pam Bondi a “liar.” Hosts: Brett Erlich & Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome, thank you. Welcome to the Young Turks, Jane Cougar, Brett Ehrlich with you guys. Do we have a little bit of a Habamus Pop-um situation? We do. You know, Habemus Popham like popcorn. We got new popes everywhere.

Thank God, God's dad, God, son, God himself, and the ghost God. They all got a new pope today. All right, I hear that yeah, that the Holy Ghost is super sight. Yeah, okay, so now we have that story for you guys, he's obviously a Marxist, we'll explain, and then a little bit later, more internal fighting between the Republicans. And this is not like the old days where they have the fake fights and they just pushed over to window to the right. These are real fights, they're bloody, and I don't know who's going to win them. And I don't know what the end game is, it is super interesting. So chaos is broken out, you're not surprised by that.

But that portion of the chaos, it's got some upsides, at least for the rest of us. All right, having said that, let's hit it. All right, let's do it. A new Pope has been chosen, that's right, and MAGA is very unhappy about it. I love the idea of being mad about the Pope. Here are the details, his name is Pope Leo the 14th. And he is officially the first American Pope. He's from Chicago, Illinois.

His original name before he changed it, because you got to as the Pope, was Cardinal Robert Prevost. Pope Leo is not just from America. He also has some strong opinions on American politics. And that's triggered a ton of right-wingers. We have a lot to talk about. We'll get to it momentarily. But, Jank, what are your first reactions to the Pope of America? I am a little disappointed.

They picked a Marxist. And we'll explain you guys all the different ways. that he is, and you'll be shocked. Well, if we prove that, you would be shocked. So second of all, they said they got a pope from Chicago, Illinois, and I was like, Rick Strom! I can't believe it! But TYT Sports is losing a valuable, and then I found out it was Prevost this close, okay?

So Young Turks are so old, we're on to our fourth pope. We started this 24 years ago. This is our third or fourth Habeas Popham, depending on how you count Benedict and Francis, because they were, you know, they were double quarter pounder and cheese for a while. I don't know if I can say that about the Pope, but apparently you can say anything you want, as we're going to see from the right wing here. So lots of news about the Pope. And then I've got my thoughts.

And I know why MAGA's upset, and I want to help them with their tears a little bit. Yes, great, fantastic. This is what originally, you know, the Pope tweeted on X. He retweeted this. He said, he said J.D. Vance is wrong. Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for others. That's something that apparently J.D. Vance said. It's your family first.

And it's you, then your family, then your community. And the Pope, who knows this stuff for sure, pointed out that is not the case. I quote, there is, this is what J.D. Vance said, there is a Christian concept that you love your family and then you love your neighbor and then you love your community and then you love your fellow citizens. And then after that, prioritize the rest of the world. A lot of the far left has completely inverted that. J.D., check your sources I did. What you're talking about is from Scientology. Here's a graphic from the book of Scientology that says this is exactly what the Scientologists believe, you dildo. It's amazing. That's from my copy of Scientology, no joke. Pope Leo has also criticized Trump at his policies. He posted this article in 2015, Cardinal Dolan colon, why Donald Trump's anti-immigrant rhetoric is so problematic. And last month, Pope Leo reposted this, as Trump and Buckele use Oval to laugh at Fed's illicit deportation of a U.S. resident, once an undocumented Salvadorian himself, now D.C. Ox and Avellio asks, do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet? Those posts and many others have triggered a full on maga meltdown, which is delicious.

We'll start with the Laura Lumer one, absolutely losing her mind, saying the new Pope once retweeted a post about how we need to keep praying for a career criminal and drug addict to George Floyd. The tweet said, quote, may all hatred, violence, and prejudice be eradicated. What prejudice? asked Lumer. Is that another. way to spell fentanyl overdose she said about the guy who died Marxist Pope she says in all caps and then also to that same retweet to the retweet I read earlier Tim Poole wrote woke Pope right to apply yourself Tim. Megan Kelly asked is it too much to hope that some 20 year old ran the new Pope's ex account and he never looked at it Cat turd also in despair?

This is so bad, he says. But there is a silver lining. Charlie Kirk has offered a counterpoint, scoop, colon, our turning point action team pulled the voting history for Pope Leo the 14th. He's a registered Republican who has voted in Republican primaries when not living abroad. Our data shows he's a strong Republican and he's pro-life. Well, pause there. Jank takes on the mega meltdown over the new Marxist Pope.

Yeah, so to be fair, the reference to fentanyl, of course, is about things coming across the border and immigration. And obviously, good Christians should hate immigrants. That's why I found this quote from Leviticus 1934 to be a little bit strange. They said, the alien who resides with you shall be hated and loathe and blamed for all fentanyl. No, wait, wait, no, it actually says the alien who resides you with. with you shall be to you as the citizen among you. You shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt. I am the Lord, your God.

But to be fair, God seems to disagree with Trump and Vance, so we got a problem on our hands. And I mean, if you're a good Christian, Jesus Trump, Jesus Trump is a tough one. I mean, who knows the Catholic religion better than J.D. Vance? I mean, are you gonna tell me that the Pope knows it better? No, no, no, the Pope's an idiot thinking that Jesus loved the strangers in a, in a different land, and immigrants, obviously, and the needy and the poor and the suffering, et cetera, and Jesus hated war. No, no, no, no, we need super right-wing popes who are not going to complain, by the way,

in the old days now they pretend to be anti-war, although obviously they have a very spotty record on that. But in the old days, they didn't even pretend. And they were like, oh, the Pope is no good. All good Christians would start wars in the Middle East, right? And they used to say absurd things like that. So now we're on to, he's a Marxist. By the way, no word means anything anymore. Marxist. So first of all, there was a guy who was a Marxist, who was religious, to be fair. His name was Jesus Christ. He said, give away all of your worldly possessions to the poor and come follow me. You can look it up. You're going to look it up. So if you call Jesus a Marxist, I'd say, that's kind of fair.

There's a lot of quotes in the Bible where he says literally give away all of your possessions to the poorest and the neediest, and come follow me. Okay, so that's good. But did the Pope say anything like that, the new Pope, Bob? Pope was like, no, you know, you shouldn't be super cruel to the needy. They're like, you're leftist, Marxist. Like, come on, guys, that's Christianity 101. What do you want him to be mean to the needy?

So this, and look, Brett, I know why they're complaining. Because in their lifetimes, like the overwhelming majority of religious leaders have been giant jerks. Like, super mean to everyone else, you should hate the gays, you should hate to immigrants, you should love money for me. Give me your money, give me your money, I need 18 private jets. Okay, the only thing Jesus cared about was my Rolls Royce and my private jet and hating other people. So when they see a kind religious leader, especially in their own religion, you know, broader Christianity, they're like, what it that's that shouldn't be allowed. And by the way, Christians don't catch feelings. Every religion is the same. So in in Islam, every once in a while there'll be a more liberal, you know, left-leaning, whatever preacher, Imam, Mullah, whatever. And the traditionalists, the conservatives will be like, that's terrible. How

dare he try to say that we should be open to the others. The others are bad. Every religion, the bad guy religious leaders always tell you to hate the others. And most importantly, if they're not in your little community and they're not in your little tribe, you should loathe them and God hates them. God loves you, but hates them. Really? Really? A hating God? a Marxist God. Okay, you can believe whatever you're like, but that sounds crazy to the rest of us. Right, yeah, like Jesus threw money lenders out of the temple. He like ejected them from it saying my, I went to Catholic school, my this, but I did, I wasn't Jesus Christ superstars. So he said, my temple should be a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves. Get out.

Like that is, that was his central thing. And he said, take all your money, give it to the poor, as opposed to Donald Trump and the rest of MAGA, who's like, take all your money and just give it to Donald Trump. And, you know, the Pope and Donald Trump both live in wildly gilded palaces, in huge, extravagant lifestyles and have everything taken care of for them, generally. They're just mad that the Pope was nice to people for like 10 minutes, and that's 10 minutes longer than Trump was nice. because we do have evidence that he's done some pretty shady stuff, although he is not, according to the New York Times, as though he's not said much recently in a 2012 address to bishops, he lamented that Western news media and popular culture fostered,

quote, sympathy or for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel. He cited the quote, homosexual lifestyle and quote, alternate families comprised of same-sex partners and their adopted children. And further, Pope Leo is also involved in some of the church's many sexual abuse scandals. Prevost, as FCA Prevosts will call him, led the Augustinians Midwest province in Chicago from 1998 to 2010 and was later the orders worldwide head. During that span, Reverend Richard McGrath remained president of Providence Catholic High School in New Lenox, despite longstanding complaints that he had abused at least one student and kept child pornography images. is on his phone and an investigation report by the Chicago Sun Times done in June of

2024 noted that the Augustinians paid $2 million settlement to former student Robert Krancvich but omitted Prevost about omitted McGrath's name from their public list of credibly accused clerics and the newspaper said Prevost never explained why the priest was left in his post three sisters in Peru where Prevost has spent much of his life doing ministry, alleged that quote, that a friar abused them between 2007 and 2015 and that Prevost then apostolic administrator, the later bishop of the diocese promised in 2022 to open a canonical investigation, but never produced documents proving he did so. So I don't know, I talked to some mega people and evidence we're in a realignment period is exactly here. Like

There are so many things that you would assume Republicans would gravitate toward. Like a anti-gay pope, right? But then they all have this feeling, like when you talk to them, that there are millions of children being abused right now. And they're like, the reason I like Donald Trump is because I want to get rid of the deep state who's drinking adrenochrome and harvesting child organs and a giant sex trafficking ring. But not when it comes to their beloved religion if they're a Catholic. In that case, it's still a dice roll. But yeah, it's just so strange to see them all on different sides of it. But what's most fascinating to me is immediately asking, do I get to like the new Pope?

Like, do I get to, they're all looking around, they find the first thing that they can find about the guy, and then they decide to either lift him up or tar and feather him. But in an environment where the president of the United States, the vice president of the United States, they've all done some things that are so non-Christian and not even, and even non-Catholic, because Catholics are typically the ones with the prettier churches that are built on the money that it's tithed in. But they, I don't know, it's just, it's just a nightmare. They can find something that, of course the Pope has to, the former Pope had to speak up at some point because the leader of the Republican Party in the most powerful country in the world is so non-Christian. Yeah, I'm coming back

Trump for us in a second, but it's as if like we then saw this guy and we were like, oh my God, I can't believe the Pope is anti-choice. Yeah, that's not that surprising, right? We're used to popes being conservative, right? But if the Pope appears to be pretty anti-LGBQ, especially if you look at his past sayings, that's not that surprising, right? Does a bear, you know, not right? And so, and oh, he might have been part of a cover-up of abuse.

Like, if you're on the left, you have to accept that a huge percentage of religious leaders will be massively conservative, right? And then even the ones that are not massively conservative will have deeply conservative positions. So we're used to it. That's why we don't catch the kind of feelings that the right wing is catching. Well, otherwise we'd be like this filthy capitalist pope. I mean, the economic system has nothing to do with it, right?

So they just want to smear everyone as Marxist, no matter what they do. And they feel entitled to a pope of their liking, which is not an entitlement that any of us have gotten used to. So that's why you have this disparate reaction when he has what some would consider progressive positions and some certainly conservative positions, right? So we should be a tie, but it doesn't feel like a tie because they feel entitled to a 100% wit. And the one thing I keep forgetting is like Catholics are

one in five Americans, right? But most Christians are not Catholic in America. So when Lindsay Graham was like, we should let Trump be the Pope. And Trump was like, I'd love to be the Pope, like neither of them is Catholic. Yeah, that's another thing I was gonna get too, Brett. So I mean, get a load of this. So I'm gonna quote one more for you, but there's like literally dozens of these in the Bible, including in the New Testament.

Deuteronomy 2719. Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow, then all the people shall say, amen, amen. Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner. Now, are you sure you're all, if you're on the right, you're sure you're all being good Christians? You sure you're following the Bible?

Have you read the Bible in a while? Or have you had a preacher tell you what the Bible is? Oh, yeah, Deuteronomy 13, I shall have a private jet. I'd read the actual Bible if I was you, because you might be shocked at what's in it. And so that's the actual Bible. Then Trump comes along, and he's like, I'm Presbyterian, but so what? I thought you'd be Pope. Okay, I'm going to be Pope.

Imagine if Biden said he was going to be the Pope and did an AI picture of him dressed as the Pope. You guys, you all know it. The entire right wing would have been like, how dare you? We have never been so branded in our lives, right? Let alone if someone who was not Christian at all did it. Like Trump, what's your favorite verse in the Bible? Do I like all of them? Would you do like Old Testament or New Testament?

I like both. I like both. He's never read a word of it. You're praying to an orange Jesus. Come on guys, it's like get real. Or you can say, you know what, you're right. I'm an atheist now. I know, I didn't believe anything in the Bible.

I just want money, right? And I think Trump's going to help me with money or Trump's going to help me with getting rid of immigrants or whatever. Yeah, I don't care what Jesus said about immigrants and the needy and giving away yourself. I'm not giving anything away. Screw Jesus on with Trump. Okay, that's fine. At least you're being honest then. Okay.

And then finally, I think we should pick new pope names. Okay. You know, like Leo? I feel Leo is pretty informal. No, no, no. I'm saying since if you get elected pope or selected pope, you have to pick a new pope name, we should all pick pope names. Oh, wow. So I just, right as you were talking, I wrote down two of them, one for Trump, Pope, Robert Barron the 13th.

Robert. Okay, got it. Robert Barron, right? Robert Barron. Okay, yeah. And so, and now me, of course, I'm gonna be obnoxious and go with Pope Justice, the first of his name. The first Muslim atheist we've had. But you know what, if the left was like the right, they'd be like, yeah, sure, why not?

Put jank in a pope out, we're good with it. I want my name, my Pope name, I want to be like Pope Kippy, just like Pope Kip. Hey, he's like a friendly Pope. I do want to say that like this is like the horrible things you know when you go to Catholic school is like Trump wants all truck drivers to speak English, right? But the reason that people on this planet speak different languages is actually, if you listen to the Bible, because of people like Trump, real estate developers who built giant temples toward the sky because they could thought they could be as high as God.

God got really pissed, it was called the Tower of Babel, and that's why we say Babel, like we don't understand you, because God cursed everyone to speak different languages and not understand each other and go off. So it was presumptuous schmuckos like Trump, who are responsible for that little. And he does build a lot of tower, and he does have a lot of Babel. Maybe Pope Babel, the first of his name. There you go, there you go. It's a religious word. All right, you want to do another story? You want to go to break? Let's go to break. Let's have some fun. I'm going to study up on Scientology while we're gone, because apparently that's what Vance thinks is Christianity. And by the way, we have a poll for you guys. Which billionaire

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You get all of our content then, including old school that Ben and I did a couple of nights ago, talked about the Marjorie Taylor Green interview a little bit, and then whether you should have lemons, cucumber, or nothing in your water, okay? It's a very important topic, everybody's talking about it. It's the first thing Pope Bob talked about. All right, okay, so Brett, what do you got next?

I really like that. All right, let's get into this next story. This morning, I'm thrilled to announce that we have reached a breakthrough trade deal with the United Kingdom, credible country. The final details of being written up in the coming weeks will have it all very conclusive, but the actual deal is a very conclusive one. We think just about everything's been approved. So today, Donald Trump announced that he has reached a trade agreement with the United Kingdom. But is it a good deal? We will let you know. We'll show you one Trump cabinet member who wildly

embarrassed himself with how excited he was about this deal being made. And we'll talk about some more of the details. But first, Jank, your reaction to this story. Yeah, it's not really a deal. There is a part of it that is real. We'll tell you which part that is. But it's like microscopic. And so this is mainly Trump going, we got a great deal. Everybody don't worry about it. But So the way the stock market reacted was curious to me. So let's show you what a non-deal it is. So you have the right context for, yes, but what's going to happen next? Because my theory is disaster is going to happen next.

Let's see if I'm right. Okay, so a lot of you might know that, remember that Trump slapped all these tariffs on a bunch of different countries on what he called Liberation Day. Here's what trade with the UK looked like before Liberation Day. The US carried $11.9 billion trade surplus in goods with the UK in 2024, which ranked the UK as the fifth highest surplus among all trade partners. But very important to say that the United Kingdom was not one of the countries that faced those broad reciprocal tariffs, okay, was not one of the countries on the bulletin board. However, it was subject to the universal 10% import tariff that applies all countries. Okay, so they didn't get any crazy ones slapped on them.

Trump was just like 10%. So after this conversation, we'll talk about some of the nuances of this in a second, but roughly here's what they get. The UK gets, we eliminate a 25% tariff on UK steel in aluminum. It reduces the tariff on British cars from 25%. It was like de facto 27.5 because of a service fee. and takes that down to 10% on first 100,000 cars, okay? What we get is we are fast-tracking U.S. goods through customs.

The UK is going to buy $10 billion worth of Boeing jets, and they promise to pull, quote, non-tariff barriers to goods. And finally, according to the White House, the deal will, quote, create a $5 billion opportunity for new exports for farmers, ranchers, and producers. including more than $700 million in ethanol exports and $250 million in American beef and other agricultural products. There's still some details. But with that, just at that point, we'll pause, Jank. What do you think?

So the beef, the agricultural products is real. You know, getting rid of some of the barriers that existed is real enough. The $10 billion Boeing deal they were going to do anyway, right? The fast tracking is like pretty easy. So here's how you could tell whether it's a big deal or not. You go and look at how business folks are responding. And so there, we had two curious things happen. One was the markets responded really positively in the beginning.

They lost a little bit at the end, lost some of their gains at the end. So still up a decent amount. So they were like really encouraged by this. Well, let's see if I'm right or wrong, but I think they were wrong, okay? I think that they were so thirsty for good news that they were like, oh, we got a trade deal, kind of, kind of, we have concepts of a trade deal, right? And they got irrational exuberous, but maybe I'm wrong. So JP Morgan put out an analysis and they're like, it'll make just a tiny difference

in the UK, not sure it'll make any difference in the US. So that's their, and that's their guidance not to political world. They don't care about us, that's for the investment folks. So if you're making decisions based on this deal, the effect is going to be microscopic. So that sounds right to me based on what I know and their analysis of it. So I think people are excited for no reason at all, only because Trump punched himself in the face so hard and they think they stopped bleeding in one of the noses, but I don't think they did. And so I'll get to what I think is going to happen next in a second.

Gotcha. Okay, so then we'll go on with some more details on it. It seems that every day since Trump's second term began, at least one cabinet member has utterly debased themselves in front of the cameras. And in an attempt to essentially spin the effectiveness of Donald Trump and tout how awesome he was and basically say, please, please don't fire me. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnik said this on purpose in front of everyone. This was the president's deal and people think, oh, that's not the way it works. If you got to sit next to him, I have the best dealmaker to my left. And if you don't fit, then we take advantage of him. calling the Prime Minister, getting that deal done.

You don't understand who's the President of the United States. So he's the closer. He gets deals done that we could never get done because he understands business, he understands deals, and that's why we're here today. And this is a perfect example of why Donald Trump produced the Liberation Day. People don't understand.

He gets things done. In a matter of time, this would have taken Jameson and I three years, maybe. And instead, we got it done in 45 days, certainly, because we work for Donald Trump. So I just want to show you some other of the humiliating ass kissing. And then we'll talk about Lutnik in a second. But like, it just has the same energy as all these clips. Thank you so much for dreaming big dreams and doing unprecedented things.

Your entire life, you have stood for doing things that other people thought they couldn't do. and accomplishing unprecedented events and achievements. I think the president is one of the, if not the most knowledgeable president that we've ever had. Look, people are going to beat on President Trump all you want. President Trump's a game-changing. Everybody have met, whether it's in a coal mine or at the border, law enforcement. The one thing they say on those trips is please thank President Trump from all of us. President, your first 100 days has far exceeded that of any other presidency in this country.

Ever, ever, ever. Never seen anything like it. Thank you. It's, thank you sir, may I have another. That's what it reads as for me. But Lutnik, anybody with the, you kind of have to be Jewish to know this, but anyone their name ends with Nick is you can just turn into the sense. That guy's such a Lutnik. I don't know, no Jews here. But it's just like it's so perfect for that guy. He's such a huckster. He's just such a charlatan. But he was basically saying this is the fastest anything could ever happen. And it was amazing to watch Donald Trump at work, as an attempt to say that Trump's trade policy, say what you will about it.

He wants to say that this is exactly the kind of results. We could only achieve if Trump handled the trade war this way. Do you agree? What do you think, Jay? Am I going to agree with that? It's so comical, right? So look, I always think Sean on their foot, right? So if Bernie was president and somebody's sitting up there going, Bernie is the greatest person in the history of the world.

And we without him, we would have been a mess would have taken us three years to even put our shoes on. But with Bernie, we made the greatest. I've been like, shut up, shut up. Like I appreciate it. Like you guys should brag about the deal. I believe in marketing in the context of politics is super important. Democrats don't do it enough, right? But this ass kissing of your boss is unbearable, right?

So you don't have to be mean to the guy. needlessly insult him, but at the same time, this like fawning, and it's like, come a Maga, you see it, right? I mean, like, I know that we get in our bubbles and it's hard for people to see, right? But I think that stuff is so gross that even your own supporters have to see how, you know, obsequious it is, like greasy, like, eh, they all look like Gallum. And it's exactly like Kim Jong-un must have his ministers treat him. Like that's the problem.

I talked to my friend who's like kind of been friendly about Donald Trump and nice, but it's like, do you not see that these guys are kissing his ass in a way that is not, and the media is kissing his ass in a way that's not healthy at all that is only going to, that makes it already seem like we're in a dictatorship. And then he punishes people who don't act that way. And look, I'll be fair as usual on this as well. So you don't see it as much in public from the Democrats, especially. certainly not from the progressive wing, you know, people say nice things about Bernie, but nothing like this, right? But in, I've been there on calls with Democratic politicians where, oh my God, and in meetings and in person, et cetera, where it is unbearable. It's like, oh, now the great honorable lady from Maryland is she's just such an amazing

political figure has made all this difference in our lives. And I'm like, I didn't even heard of it, she hadn't make any difference, okay, at all. And then the next person gets on, and then, oh, she's the most amazing, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then Nancy Pelosi, I've been there too, okay? And then when Nancy Pelosi is about to speak, oh my God, it is like this, it is. She is the greatest master legislator of all time. Are you ready to rob all the greatest person ever lived Nancy Pelosi? And I'm like, blah, right? And Maga, if you're not going over Lucknick and Bondi and et cetera doing the same, I mean, like Maga is supposed to be tough guys.

you really want to be known as ass kissers? I mean, up to you guys. So on the trade policy itself, here's what's frustrating for me. He went out there and was like, I am going to, like, they want to spin it as Donald Trump shook up the world and was like, all right, come and play. But the first person he's making a deal with, he didn't do that too. He just put a 10% tariff on it. He didn't do those like crazy reciprocal tariffs on that. So that isn't part of the plan.

This is, and then also Navarro said on day 90, we'll have, as one of them said, they have 200 trade deals. There's not 200 countries. This is the stuff I have so much trouble with. It's like, the left gets called, gets made fun of for pretending everybody, for treating everybody like they're stupid. But like, I can't call out that this guy's a weirdo for saying that there's 200 countries and that everybody is going to go with them on that. Like, I find that insane. This was obviously not the plan, and this stuff, most of the deals, the Jenk points out were going to happen anyway. I don't know about any like trade, ongoing trade deals that have specific quotas for, for like deals that were already in the works for other, for like specific planes you were going to buy.

Yeah, look, real quick on that stuff. So number one, let's notice that, oh, great, Boeing got a deal. Who's Boeing? Is Boeing living in Kansas, Nebraska? Where does Boeing live? Oh, it's a corporation. Oh, another corporation got another $10 billion deal. That does, maybe that creates a couple of jobs here in America, but don't get a twisted like they're doing you a favor.

They're doing a giant corporation who's a donor and a military contractor, a deal and a favor. Right. What I think people want from Boeing is the, if the, well, I think most people want the government to do with Boeing is go in there and push back against some of the weird like, the weird like shareholders serving. nonsense that they've been doing where they've been cutting, you know, cutting, going through and not actually adhering to safety standards. Like that's what we want out of Boeing. We don't need like fix the planes first, then sell them to Europe. Yeah.

So 6P44 had an interesting comment on Twitch, one of our members on Twitch. The United States imports a wide variety of goods from the UK. A significant portion of the UK made cars, including, oh yeah, premium brands like Bentley and McLaren are exported to the US. to the US. And I was like, oh, that's why Britain was up first. Not because there's amazing ally, et cetera, but because probably some rich people called and they're like, do you know how much the price of Bentley's went up? Yeah. No, I need a deal with the British immediately. Okay. So anyway, good point. I love our members. By the way, the guy who said that they have

already started 200 trade deals was Donald Trump himself. Of course, of course. Of course. I mean, and nobody can correct the president, hey, there aren't that many countries, let alone the ones that you put tariffs on, let alone the fact that we only have one kind of a deal with one country, and China's never called. And you kept saying that, oh, they're calling you trying to make a deal. And then your Treasury Secretary came out and said, no, they're not. We've had no contact with them at all, right? Like, when do people get tired of the lies?

And I think that a lot of people are, actually. There's folks like Eric Erickson and other right wingers who are like, you know, this deal sucks. And so as I've been saying, they're splintering like crazy. And remember, this one they splinter even more on because big business is on the opposite side. So whoever's getting paid by big business is attacking this. And Trump can't stop that because there's too many of them, right? And if you're a steel worker, you're like, oh, that's awesome that Trump just helped British steelworkers by eliminating. that terror. Yeah, I mean, if you make a trade, a fair trade deal, no problem. Yeah,

their side is going to win while we win as well. Whether it's a good trade deal is a different question. As Erickson points out, again, the right winger, he's like, but Britain basically has 2%. We kept 10% on them. So that's a 5x. It's not reciprocal at all. It's still kind of gigantic. And it's still going to raise prices here in America, not in Britain, right? And so they're just seeing this all wrong. So last things here for me is, Well, what's next? So what's next is the in the Port of Seattle, they did a story on one of the cable news outlets yesterday.

There was a grand total of zero ships that had come in yesterday. And the last time that happened was during the great supply chain problems of the pandemic. The ships are not coming in because there's nothing to sell because then normally get from Asia, not just China explained, the guy who runs a port, but a lot of Asia. But the ones from China is a 145% tariff, so you can't sell in these, way too expensive. So they're not bothering to ship it, because no one's gonna buy it with that kind of tariff. So tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. So what I always tell you is hold us accountable.

If it turns out there are no empty shelves, the prices don't go up. I was being alarmist because I have TDS, right? Then okay, say hey, Jake, you were wrong, look at this, here we are in June, July, August. And nothing happened, and we got nothing but great deal. from Trump. All right, then we'll see if that happened, okay? Well, my guess is once they start seeing the empty shelves and the higher prices, a larger than expected panic is going to set in. And then that's when Trump is going to start backpedaling furiously. Got it. All right, let's go to break right now. We'll read some of your comments and be right back.

All right back on TOTJ and Brett with you guys. I'm going to read just one quick super chat because it's so relevant to the last story that we did. Michael Catalano wrote in, I'm a mailman and I had my first tariff experience yesterday. I go through three pair of boots a year and it cost me $93 a pair since COVID. I bought another one yesterday and they were $187. $10. Geez. There's gonna be great anger in the country and we'll all see with our own eyes.

Who's right and who's wrong? All right, Brett. All right, let's get into this next little bit. All right, big question. Will America go full idiocry and make the next attorney or next surgeon general of the United States a wellness influencer? And worse, will that choice have been influenced? By Laura Lumer, this is an insane story about who might be the next surgeon general of the United States.

Yesterday, President Trump picked Casey Means, who is a prominent wellness influencer and ally of RFK Jr. to be a surgeon general after Lumer lobbied against his previous pick. Now, we're going to tell you all about this woman's concerning bio, but first, Jenk, did you expect Laura Lumer to make an appearance in this story? Yes, because apparently she's the new vice president. She's deciding who gets to have a job, who doesn't have a job, she's angry at some set of folks in this story, we'll find out. And then RFK Jr. is a running mate is angry at another set of folks. There is so much soap opera in this administration. So if you like drama and reality shows, well, that makes sense. You picked the reality show president. So here we go.

This is crazy. So means a physician turned wellness influencer who espouses similar ideas as RFK Jr. The lifestyle choices and environmental toxins are responsible for America's chronic health crises. She got her MD from Stanford, go card, but dropped out of her surgical residency program after becoming disillusioned with traditional medicine. Her medical license is currently inactive. Instead, quote, she founded, according to the AP, founded a health tech company levels that helps users track blood sugar and other metrics. She also makes money for dietary supplements, creams, teas, and other products sponsored on her social media accounts. Now, she's not as outspoken against vaccines as RFK Jr., but is called for, quote,

more investigation into their safety and spread claims about them harming children. Like Kennedy, she's also endorsed raw milk. It's raw, and wellness runs in the family. According to the AP, her brother, Callie Means, is currently a White House advisor who appears frequently on television to promote restrictions on SNAP benefits, removing fluoride from greening water and other MAHA agenda items. In his true social announcement, Trump said this, Casey has impeccable MAHA credentials and will work closely with our wonderful Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy, to ensure a successful implementation of our agenda in order to reverse the chronic disease epidemic and ensure great health in the future for all Americans. Dr. Casey Means has the potential to be one of the fightin his surgeons general in United States history, sure. Now, that announcement came shortly after Trump pulled his previous nominee, Jeanette Nesawatt, a family medicine physician and former Fox News contributor. Fancy that. He picked someone from Fox News to be on television as his attorney general, who was supposed to sit for confirmation hearings today, actually.

Laura Lumer had called for her nomination to be withdrawn in a series of attacks on X earlier this week. She accused the former nominee of malpractice and slammed the Trump administration for failing to thoroughly vet her. Quote, according to Lumer, we believe Dr. Jeanette Nyshowatt's allegations of medical malpractice, promotion of DEI-focused initiatives implemented through Citi MD, and her advocacy of the China virus vaccine as recently as November 20. 24 render her unfit for the role of United States Surgeon General, and she should not be confirmed by the U.S. Senate to hold the position. She continues, I know Donald Trump likes people who go on TV for some weird reason. I will never understand.

Parentheses, don't hate me, don't hate me, I still love him. But we can't have a pro-COVID vaccine NEPO appointee who is currently embroiled in a medical malpractice case and who didn't go to medical school in the U.S. as the U.S. Surgeon General. She got her way and claimed a scalp, so to speak, for in Lumer-ish, after the nomination was withdrawn. But interestingly, Lumer is furious about Trump's new choice too. Here's what she said, alert emoji. President Trump's pick for U.S. Surgeon General Casey Means said she prays to inanimate objects, communicates with spirit mediums, uses shrooms as plant medicine, and talks to trees. She also doesn't even have an active medical license.

The inmates are running the asylum. And in a follow-up tweet, she wrote, this is honestly insane. I do not believe for one second that Donald Trump made the decision. I refuse to believe it. We'll talk about what RFK Jr's former running mate says about this and RFK and essentially the movie Manchurian candidate. But first, Jank, thoughts on Laura Lumer in this new nominee.

Yeah, there's so many different angles to the story. So there's Laura Lumberangle, and then there's this person who was just selected. Look, I'm going to give you her upsides, because we're the fairest show in America. She wants to take on corrupt food conglomerates, and sometimes the mainstream media paints that as like some sort of conspiracy theory. No, there are food conglomerates, and they are relevant, and they do have power, and they do use that power to put processed foods in, et cetera. That might not be good for us. And so, and it leaves us, she says, relying on daily medications from the pharmaceutical industry to manage obesity, diabetes, and other chronic conditions. So there's a lot of truth to that.

And there's a, and if you really took on processed foods and high fructose corn syrup because of the corn subsidies that we give, that's something that we on the left have been worried about for a long time. And so if she does that, great. She takes on consolidated power in the food industry, sugar industry, et cetera. That would be great. Okay, imagine if she took on the power of the drug companies, that would be great. Now, is she going to do that? I would be shocked. I would fall over and, you know, I, like they always promise these things.

Do they actually, so far have they delivered on any of them? No, we had one rule from the health and human services, and that was don't criticize Israel, otherwise it'll be bad for your health, right? Like, what, what, what does that have to do with anything, okay? So if they focus like a laser beam on these, great, but they're not going to. And they keep talking about, hey, I don't know about vaccines and measles. Man, I don't know why they don't want to be popular. Like a huge portion of maha and people that like what they're saying are skeptical about corporate rule and how they have too much power.

And they're putting junk in our food and our medicine and they're charging prices that are way too high. If you actually tackle that, you'd be a hero. They'd build statues of you. But she's not gonna do that. Now so, and if I'm wrong about it, great. I'm super happy to be wrong about that. Okay, now, like, so why do I think that? Dietary supplements.

Come I get the hell out of here, man. I know, I know. My thing is gonna grow three to four inches. I got it, I got it, okay? And I'm gonna be smarter if I take your dietary supplements and I'm gonna live forever. I don't believe it. I don't believe it at all, okay?

So are there limitations of Western medicine? Yes. But is Western medicine awesome? Yes, it's awesome. That doesn't mean we should pay super high drug prices. That's corporate power, right? But the medicine actually works and like your ointment is, might help around the edges, but it ain't gonna be cancer.

Okay, so and then one more thing for now is that, look, so now the Luma part, right? I don't understand why she has this unbelievable outsized influence and power. Like, she's previously was such a rando fringe character, right? I mean, in the soap, like Dan Bongino was, just to pick a random person, was way bigger than Laura Lumer. Now he's like deputy under deputy, under deputy of the under something or other, right? Whereas Laura Lumer's like, you're fired, you're fired. She's like the new apprentice, right?

And so she's like, you're hired, you're fired, and everybody's listening to her and Trump's listening to her. Why? I just I don't get it. I don't understand. It would be like just again, you pick like a super rando lefty online who blogs from time to time and then they get to make decisions for Joe Biden when he's in office. Unimaginable, right? The Democrats don't listen to their base enough. If this is just like there's no other shenanigans going on, this might be listening to your base a little bit too much. Yeah, I don't know if it's like on purpose or just by happenstance because Trump is such a like, who am I? talking to right now and that's who I'm going to cater the pitch to individual. Like, the way the algorithms work is they just kind of send it to a kind of person. They send what you're saying to a kind of person who'd be into that. And so that benefits someone like Trump who's always lying and trying to make one kind of person feel like he's on their side. And that's all they see in their feeds is that kind of stuff. So Trump is is doing the big umbrella thing by just like pulling RFK Jr in and being like,

people who are into this stuff that RFK Jr's into, that's probably all they see all day on their feeds. So I'm going to get that guy. I'm going to say he's in charge. I'm going to give him not like, I'm going to give him limited power, but a title. And all the RFK stands are now on my side. I think that's what it is. I think the Democrats can probably learn from that because there's less danger in letting like progressives be in charge. of stuff because all progressives want to do is make people's lives better and lay down ground

rules that stop the abuses of power from ruining normal people's lives. When Donald Trump does this kind of stuff, you end up with like Elon Musk appealing to crypto bros by by just being there. But when he goes about trying to do the change, he's saying he's so good at making, like he screws up so badly. But those guys are never going to see the screw up so badly story. They're just going to see like your secondary Elon Musk, God, King is in charge of stuff, so Trump hears you. I think that's the problem. I would do you say one positive upside of the Lumer thing is, and then we'll go real quick to the Nicole Shanahan, is that I like the disagreements. I mean, they're all disagreeing

with each other nonstop. I hate uniformity and orthodoxy, and no one's allowed to dissent, etc. And certainly in Trump, one, no one was allowed to dissent. Now there's dissension everywhere. And on another story, we're going to tell you the vice president, obviously Laura Lumer, is mad at Pam Bondi, and she's trying to get Pam Bondi fired. So they're all at war internally, and these are real conflicts that affect their careers. This is not playing around. This isn't fake. So I'm glad there's dissension. So here's Nicole Shanahan, who is RFK Jr's former running mate. She isn't happy about Casey Means getting the nod.

She and other critics appear to think that Means isn't sufficiently anti-vaccine. and she claims that someone is controlling RFK, here's what she said. Yes, it's very strange, doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if I support RFK Jr. in a Senate confirmation that neither of these siblings, meaning means and her brother, would be working under HHS or in any of an appointment, and that people much more qualified would be. I don't know if RFK very clearly lied to me or what's going on.

It's been clear in recent conversations that he's reporting to someone regularly who's controlling his decisions, and it isn't. President Trump, with regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them, almost like they were bred and raised as Manchurian and's assets. For those non-Angela Lansberry Frank Sinatra fans, nor the remake, basically the Manchurian candidate is a movie book and then two movies about someone getting brainwashed and then put into the highest levels of power so they could unleash an evil plan. Yeah, okay, by the way, if Lumer's right and Shanahan's right, then if you're MAGA, you've got to be super pissed because apparently Trump's an incompetent buffoon and doesn't realize that someone else is running the government. You guys elected him, right? Not some shadowy figure that no one knows who it is. Look, I don't think they're right. I think Trump's in charge. I think Trump's a bit of a clown and he doesn't know what's going on.

So he's like, I don't know, Lumer said big her, none to her. I don't know. She said, well, I don't know. Right? That's my guess. I know all the people think he's a strategic genius. Doesn't know what the Declaration of Independence is. Okay, anyway, there's no plan. There's no guy behind the curtain. But if you believe them, then why is Trump letting the deep state run things? I've had this conversation literally with people. And they don't know. They don't know. They don't have an answer. They just short circuit. Yeah. So when's he going to unleash this like information and put the child, he should be against? child molesters. Oh, it's not the right time yet is what one literally said to me. It's like, so when's the right time going to be? Anyways, wasn't he with Epstein multiple times

over the years and didn't he just bring a sex trafficker back to the states from Romania? I don't know, you tell me. So look, I think we need to just have a come to Jesus moment here and realize and admit that Pam Blondie is a liar, right? She is a full-fledged liar. She has, in my opinion, little to no credibility as a result of her lies about one of the most high-profile criminal cases ever, the Jeffrey Epstein sex scandal, something that has captivated the attention of people not just here in the United States, but all around the world. So will we never get the Jeffrey Epstein's files that are under lock and key? Well, that is the question Laura Lumer wants answers to. But the only person that can answer that question, attorney general Pam Bondi, isn't delivering.

Now, Jenks, we talked about Laura Lumer seems to have control in every other aspect of the White House. So do you think she'll be able to get these files released? No. The Epstein files are one of the most interesting things going on in the U.S. government now. Why? Because of their importance? Well, they're very important. And I want them released. God knows what they're doing with them now. But more so because it is showing a lot of MAGA, not a little number of folks that voted for Trump. A lot of them are going, oh, oh, I guess everyone was liars. Pam Bondi was a liar. Trump was a liar. Because they said day one, Cash Patel's a liar. They said day one. This is a day 108. And the only The only thing they could possibly be doing is scrubbing those files as we speak. Yes. Right?

So, but this fight though is important because they're not holding the line. In the past, they will always hold the line. Pam Boddy is not a liar, those lines are obviously true, and they would have flipped already and they would have been like Epstein was an upstanding citizen. Of course Trump shouldn't release his files, this could hurt people, et cetera, but they're not doing that. They're looking to rip somebody's face off because these files haven't been released and aren't going to be released. And they're beginning to realize, oh, maybe the Trump's also a politician.

So this lateness is something that Laura Lumer is taking very personally. Take a look at this. And you know, usually you hear all these canned responses from politicians that just go ahead and defend Pam Blondie, right? And they say, oh, you know, Pam Blondie's doing such a great job. You know, it's like, you know, all this circle jerk, you know, oh yeah, she's so amazing. Oh my gosh, she's so great. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right. She's not so great. Trust me, it's not really doing such a great job. First, she said that the files were on her desk, right?

And then she had that ridiculous binder gate situation at the White House where she made all these crazy binders that were not even full of Epstein documents and had these influencers essentially run a state media campaign for her where they wave these binders around pretending like they were given Epstein files by Pam Blondie. Well, it turns out there's really nothing in the binder. And she goes on Fox News and says, oh, the files are on my desk. right now. Then she tells Mark Levin that the files are being delivered to my office in a truck. So they were on her desk, but then they weren't on her desk. And then they were delivered to her

office in a truck. And then the big bag, the big bad boogeyman over at the deep state were trying to sabotage her and they lied to her about the real Epstein documents. And then they were going to be released at a later date. But now, right? We don't know. So she's not the only one who thinks that. We have more. I hope James has the Epstein files because I don't think the Department of Justice has them, or at least the Attorney General does not have them or she would have turned them over. The President ordered them release. The Attorney General ordered them release. We all know they have not been released.

And one of my biggest fears that I had, and I expressed this with, was Cash Patel and a lot of people, Stephen Miller and a lot of people going into the new administration. I'm like, you know, I hope they're not shredding documents right now. This was a few weeks before the transition. I said, I hope they're not shredding document. But you all need to go on that first day and try to get all this stuff released because, you know, my fear is from what I've dealt with in investigations and in communication with this deep state apparatus, is there probably in their

shredding documents as we speak. And there are a ton more. Let's skip to the fifth video, the last video. There's a ton more right wingers out there who are complaining about Pam Bondi and the Epstein files. Let's take a look at this. I have full faith in Cash Patel and A.G. Bondi to deliver those files. But I want to be very clear about something.

The American people want the truth. We don't want redactions. And although we are the same team, I'm going to continue to press for that transparency, because that is exactly what the American people asked for when they elected President Trump. Even if it was 10 pages, people would be screaming and cheering. 10 pages, names redacted of victims and information explaining what Epstein was doing, confirming some details, even if it was the slightest confirmation, people would say, thank you. James O'Keeves, one of the two big stories he's breaking is about someone in the Trump administration

covering up Epstein. I made some phone calls, and I told the crew over the weekend, I said, it's Pam Bondi, according to my sources. When you promised something to me, and you know, you guys know where I stand when it comes to children and what they've done to children, and you just nailed it. The number one accuser of Epstein, of Galeigh Maxwell, of Prince Andrew, the last one, she suicided herself? I don't know what to make of it, Jank. They all seem pretty upset, and their job is to tell Trump that he's right about everything.

I don't know. Yeah, look, again, two parts of this story. The fact that they're all pissed is great news. It's great news on a couple of fronts. One, they should be pissed. There was a giant lie about the FC files. I think the Epstein files are actually really important. And so did FC News blackmail on politicians?

It's a super important question, right? I mean, I'm not sure that it gets more important than that. So the fact that they're not letting it go is great news. But equally important is, this is not the cult you knew back in 2016. I know when I said that, everybody got super mad, oh, no way, you're doing something. No, guys, here they are. I mean, do we have to show you, 5, 10, 15, 20? So if you, oh, they're not all turned on Trump, but they're not saying they're all, we regret, we're crying, we wish we voted for Kamala Harris.

Of course, that's not going to happen, right? They're mega, they're conservatives, right? But they're beginning to realize that maybe, just maybe, that Trump and the people in the Trump administration might be full of crap. That is an awesome development, a wonderful development. So, I mean, in the past, they would have never called out somebody like Pam Bondi, the attorney general, when Trump is still 100% on her side calling her Pam Blondie, the liar. And I love that they're waking up to the fact that, oh, it turns out politicians might be liars. Of course, of course, but in the past, they would have said, yeah, that's true of the Uniparty,

and they might have even said it of Mitch McConnell, et cetera, right? Of the establishment of Republicans, but they would have never said it about Trump. They would have never said it about Maga people. And now they're saying it left and right and center. They're saying it everywhere. I got more on that, but you want to jump in on that? Yeah, it's just like they, I don't know if they're a different cult than they were before. I think they're just that same group of people that still believe that there's secret cabals of people doing

horrible stuff to kids and drinking adrenochrome from their kidneys or wherever adrenachrome comes from. It's just they've had enough time to entertain the notion that maybe Trump's a politician. And he was able to be like, hey, I'm the alternative to the insider cabal because I've never been president before. And now he's been president for a grand total of four years and a hundred days. And in their estimation, whatever it is, like eight years and a hundred days. And maybe they're just like, where are those files? I want to read them, so to speak. I'd rather not read them.

I'd rather have Alex Jones give me the Cliffs notes on them. But some of them are going to take those. But I just, what's crazy to me is that they always thought Trump was the solution of this stuff, even though there's tons of photos of Trump with these people. And like, how do we, the answer electorally is to get them to get so disenchanted by Donald Trump. They go back to not voting at all or switch sides. I just, you know, one thing is easier than the other. I think those are the two possibilities.

Yeah, I hear you, Brett, but look, thinking about the entire spectrum. So you're talking about hardcore Q and on guys, right? And that is a shockingly high 15% of the country. It makes me despair of humanity that it's 15% of the country, right? So that's a big, big number. So I forget if it's 15 of the country or the Republicans, but either way, it's a giant number, right? But 31, but Trump got 51% of the vote, right, a little bit over 51%. So there's an enormous part of that political spectrum that voted for Trump.

That isn't Q or not, right? And that thought, well, I mean, he's anti-establishment. And I know the establishment guys are full of crap, right? So he seems like he's offending because he says crazy stuff, right? And that seems authentic, and I hate inflation and immigration, I'm voting for that. Those guys, we can definitely win back. And the fact that there's some of them are also waking up. and going, yeah, not what I bargained for, right?

And I didn't know he was, they didn't know, and for us it seems crazy. How could you not know that Donald Trump's a liar, right? In a con man. But they didn't know because they didn't, that's not the media they got. Right, yeah, yeah, right? But look at now the change, right? So even Laura Lumer, who's genuinely little nuts out, right? And I'll come back to my disagreements with her in a second.

And my agreement's interestingly. But she's like, oh yeah, what's Pam Blondie gonna do? Blame the boogeyman deep state. So now they're saying that the deep state's an excuse. That's, yeah, I mean, I never thought I'd see, I even I didn't think that would happen, right? The deep state is BS and an excuse for not doing the thing you're supposed to do. Yeah. That's a great development.

Right, my pitch to them, and I don't, I, the only reason I say that it's more like Q and Anani is because it's an Epstein thing, right? Like this is an Epstein story, so that's explicitly what it's about. It's not like, tell me about how come a shoe factory clothes and they're like, cause they need the rubber, the adrenochrome extraction, like that's different. But in this scenario, I just think I have an easier time getting people to come around on points when I go, you get to believe what you believed before. Because before this, you thought that all billionaires were corrupt weirdos living in a cabal and giving each other favors and covering stuff up for each other. What if I told you, if you dislike Donald Trump and Elon Musk, you could go right back to believing everything

you believed in the past? Because what's more likely that this one billionaire, these two billionaires are the exception? Meanwhile, the other billionaires flock to him the minute he said, like, I'm not going to go after you guys. That, or is it more likely that all the billionaires are acting the same way you always thought they did, and Donald Trump is no exception. Yeah. So last thing's on this, for Lumer, look, she hates Muslims and she says she's a proud Islamophob, etc. But do I agree with her on the Epstein files. I do. See, you could massively as much disagreement as possible, 100%. I grew up Muslim, my family's Muslim, saying that you know, that you're an Islamophobic you hate or fear Muslims is terrible. It can't get worse, right? What am I going to do? Agree to,

oh yeah, you all should hate me? No, of course. I disagree with that 100%. But that doesn't mean she's wrong about the Epstein files. Like two things can be true at the same time, guys. So take some wins, take some yeses for an answer when they agree with us. And then the funniest defense of Trump, by the way, on social media was, he's just doing this to protect Democrats. Trump's a well-known Democrat protector. So that's probably the right answer. I mean, if you're going to come up with a flimsy excuse, do better than that. And finally, if you thought they were angry about all this, Cash Patel just said in hearings today that he's like, oh, no, no, Epstein was definitely a suicide.

Yeah. Oh, they're not going to like that because it was, it is unlikely to be a suicide. And certainly MAGA thinks it's very, very unlikely to be a suicide. So that is not going to play well. And I'm looking forward to that tomorrow. All right, that's all the time we have in that first hour. And more. Okay, so guys, we've got to take a break here, of course.

We've got a second hour with Sharon. And speaking of, no, not speaking of cash. Oh, Joe Biden. What are you doing, brother? What are you doing, brother? All right, we'll talk about what he's doing when we come back.