The Young Turks - Manchin Mayhem

Episode Date: June 8, 2021

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I hope you guys get a chance to check that out. And by the way, John Adrola on Old School tonight, so fun for everybody. So huge parts of the network, including this show that we colloquially call the main show. And Anna Kasparian, who we don't call the main host, but we should. So, Casper. All right, well, a lot of news broke over the weekend, including an op-ed that Senator Joe Manchin wrote. So let's discuss that. In a new op-ed penned by conservative Democratic Senator Joe Manchin, he argues that he will not be supporting the For the People Act, which of course is a robust election reform bill that it has already passed in the House.

And he says that he plans to maintain the Senate filibuster, which requires 60 votes in order to pass any piece of legislation. In essence, it will block any type of legislation that the Biden administration at least pretends wants to pass. Now, of course, there are exceptions when it comes to reconciliation, which allows some legislation to pass with a simple majority. But whenever you have discussions about that, all of a sudden you hear the Democrats talk about the Senate parliamentarian who says there are limits to that. Obviously, that's arbitrary, could be overruled, but Democrats don't do it. Now, his op-ed in case you guys want to read this garbage is in the Charleston Gazette mail, and it's titled, Why I'm Voting Against the For the People Act. And here's the hollow argument he makes. Unfortunately, we now are witnessing that the fundamental right to vote has itself become overtly, has become overtly politicized. Today's debate about how to best protect our right to vote and to hold elections, however, is not about finding common ground, but seeking partisan advantage. Whether it is the state laws that seek to needlessly restrict voting or politicians who ignore the need to secure our elections, partisan policymaking won't instill confidence in our democracy, it will destroy it.

And then he goes on to argue this, and it's incredibly frustrating that he continues to do this. I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy. And for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act. Furthermore, I will not vote to weaken or eliminate the filibuster. Now, the reason why I say these arguments are hollow is because he has been proven on multiple occasions that Republicans are not, in fact, good faith actors, and they do not take part in good faith negotiations. After securing concessions on behalf of Senate Republicans, not a single one of them voted

in favor of the stimulus relief bill that Biden had put forward. And of course, he couldn't get Republicans to vote in favor. of a commission to investigate the rights that took place in the nation's capital on January 6th. The real reasoning has to do with money in politics and who butters Joe Manchin's bread. And Jane Mayer from the New Yorker had a fantastic piece about that. I will give you the details, but Jenk, I wanted to give you a chance to jump in first. Yeah, so if you're part of the press and you're continuing the mirage that Joe Manchin is representing his voters, Please stop and do your job.

So I see it all the time. It's because he's from West Virginia. It's a very red state voter for Trump, so that's why he has to do this. Wait, wait, wait. That editorial was about for the People Act. For the People Act in West Virginia has popularity of 71%. Well, okay, let's be fair now. Trump won the state big.

Well, first of all, that is the whole state. It's 71% of the whole state. But okay, let's look at the Trump voters. 66% say yes. It's the only democratic legislation that they support. That's not true. The other one they support in West Virginia, $15 million wage. Guess who voted against that?

Joe Manchin. Okay, now, why do they support it? Because it has excellent anti-corruption legislation in there. And Jane Mayer explains that a little bit, and I'll get into it, et cetera. But the main part of it is it puts a spotlight on what used to be dark money. And so it reveals their donors. That is exactly why Joe Manchin is against it. Okay, now, as again, and I'll get into it a little bit, there's actually 10 Democratic senators, according to the Washington Post, who actually agree with Manchin.

They don't want their donors exposed either. Now, on this show, we told you that the Democrats, not the Republicans, the Democrats wouldn't pass for the People Act without at least taking out the anti-corruption parts. You know why? Because they're corrupt. That's why. It's very easy. Yet, other than Jane Mayor, almost every reporter writes, Joe Manchin, West Virginia, Red State, they love corruption there, they hate higher wages, Joe Manchin is just representing

them. No, stop lying on his behalf. Joe Manchin is not doing this out of principle. He's doing it because he's a corrupt politician who takes tons and tons of corporate donor money, and he doesn't want you to know it. That's the reality. Now, Jane Mayer's piece primarily focuses on Senate Republicans, but toward the end of her piece, she does address the fact that Joe Manchin is very much corrupted by the same groups that are funded by Coke industries. So, as she reports, a recording obtained by the New Yorker of a private conference call on January 8th between a policy advisor to Senator Mitch McConnell and the leaders of several prominent conservative groups, including one run by.

the Koch Brothers Network reveals the participants worry that the proposed election reforms garner wide support, not just from liberals, but from conservative voters too. And so they're having a discussion about how to defeat this bill. Obviously, the Coke Industries does not want to get rid of money in politics. That's the way they've been able to essentially get lawmakers to bend to their will as opposed to represent the best interests of the American people and their constituents. And so the speakers on the call expressed alarm about the broad popularity of this bill, and they're talking about various focus groups that they've done to try to, you know,

I guess tailor their messaging in order to persuade American voters to dislike the bill, to avoid supporting the bill. And so Kyle McKenzie, a research director for the Koch Run advocacy group, stand together, told fellow conservatives and Republican congressional staffers on that call, that quote, we presented with a very neutral description of the bill. People were, I'm sorry, when presented with a very neutral description of the bill, people were generally supportive. The most worrisome part is that conservatives were actually as supportive as the general public was when they read the neutral description. There's a large, very large chunk of conservatives who are supportive of these types of efforts.

And he even complained that when they tried to use cancel culture narratives, anti-cancel culture narratives in order to persuade voters to be against it, it didn't work. The participants conceded that the bill, which would stem the flow of dark money from such political donors as the billionaire oil magnate Charles Koch, was so popular that it wasn't worth trying to mount a public advocacy campaign to shift opinion. Instead, a senior Coke operative said that the opponents would be better off ignoring the will of American voters and trying to kill the bill in Congress. So what does this all have to do with Joe Manchin, right?

This is a meeting with Cokeback groups and conservative lawmakers. Well, remember, grifting is the only thing in Washington that happens to be bipartisan, right? So as Jane Mayer tweeted, the leaked Heritage Foundation tape specifically mentions how the right-wing dark money groups had a little fun pressuring Mansion on SB1 and SB1. is the For the People Act, the Senate version of the For the People Act. And Brian Schwartz, a reporter from CNBC said, plus, Coke operatives recently met with Manchin's team on the telehealth stance. It can't be ruled out that they possibly spoke with them about the opposition to For the People Act.

And as Jank mentioned, I think it's really the most important point. Mansion himself takes dark money, as other corporate Democrats do. So he's not only in touch with these cokeback groups, but he's looking out for his own campaign finance. He wants to ensure that he protects the dark money that flows into his campaigns, and that's the reason why he's going to go ahead and not only vote against the reform, but do what he can to ensure that the filibuster remains in place so the legislation gets blocked. Yeah, so a couple of other important aspects of this. Number one, I thought that Joe Manchin couldn't be pressured, that we shouldn't even try as Democrats to pressure Joe Manchin. Huh, that's funny, because it turns out the Koch brothers and the Heritage Foundation, etc.,

pressure Joe Manchin, and he gave it instantly. He gave it instantly. Then they pulled the ads off there because they're like, high five, Joe Manchin. Now you're on the right side. Now, they didn't need to pressure him because he wants to hide his donors, okay? But it was gratuitous on top. But there's another part of H.R. 1, SB 1 for the people like, these are all the same bill that is also part of the anti-corruption that they don't like. I talked to Harvard Law Professor Larry Lessig about it over a month ago, and he explained the best part of it is the matching funds.

That means that grassroots candidates can have a chance against incumbents. Another reason why corporate Democrats hate it. So they all pretend to be, oh, Joe, we are for democracy and voting rights. rights and let's claim it because they didn't think they were going to pass it. Now all of a sudden they have the House, the Senate and the White House, and all of a sudden they're like, oh my God, passing anti-corruption bills, we don't really want to do that. Mansion, go out there and pretend that you're the only one, okay? And so not only are there 10 Democratic senators that also don't want to pass it, that are

all hiding, but you guys want to guess what Joe Biden's position on the filibuster is? And if you can't break the filibuster, you can't have the four of the people, like, let alone every other part of position. You know that right now Joe Biden is in favor of keeping the filibuster? Of course! So what we're all talking about Joe Manchin as if it's like, oh my God, Joe Manchin. No, it's Joe Biden. It's Joe Biden hiding behind Joe Manchin.

FDR 2.0. I think they invented the LOL for that very statement. And it was even progressives in Congress. And in Washington, the groups talking about how he's FDR 2.0. Are you guys kidding me? What kind of a joke is that? And Biden doesn't want grassroots funding of his primary opponents either. None of them want and they don't want you to see their donors.

This is the one thing that Trump voters are right about. They hate the corruption too. So the great irony of all this is Joe Biden's perpetual excuse, including that op-ed, for not ending the filibuster or voting for for the people act is because he wants to be bipartisan. Well, we have bipartisan agreement. bipartisan agreement in West Virginia and across the country for the People Act is enormously popular with both Democratic and Republican voters. Who's killing bipartisanship? Ironically,

Joe Manchin and Joe Biden. Yeah, you're exactly right. I mean, when you hear about the need for bipartisanship, right, who cares about whether or not Democratic and Republican lawmakers get along? I don't care about that at all. Bipartisanship should only matter in regard to the will of the people. And if there's widespread popularity for this election reform bill, in addition to Joe Biden's infrastructure bill, in addition to his American families plan, those are popular pieces of legislation. And it's not just, hey, it would be nice if we get this legislation passed. This is an important moment, right? The Democrats are going to lose control of Congress in the midterm elections.

So time is limited. If Democrats fail to accomplish this agenda, I guarantee you there's going to be far, it's going to be much easier for Republicans to make their case in the general election. And I don't know what the future holds if that happens. Like how do you, how do you dig yourself out or how do you get yourself out of that giant hole that you've dug yourself into? That leads to one more hypocrisy from Joe Manchin, which is he said, well, look, you know, voting rights is too important to mess with

on a partisan level. But the Republicans already did it. They passed dozens of laws in the states messing with voting rights. And the Democrats aren't messing with voting rights. They're saying everybody should be allowed to vote. That's the opposite of messing with voting rights. Now, when I say Democrats, I mean

the honest Democrats, I don't know what percentage of the party it is. It might be a really small percentage. But at least the bill itself, the one they were pretending to support for the People Act, does not mess with voting rights. It gives voting rights to everyone who deserves it, who are citizens, and it is very careful about that, right? And so if Manchin says, I don't want voting rights mess with, and the Republicans have

already done it at the state level, curtailing voting for so many different groups, by saying I'm not going to touch it, you are messing with voting rights, you are making it partisan, you're letting the Republicans attack on voting rights stand. Every part of what Joe Manchin says is disingenuous. You need to understand that. And then, By the way, I want to give credit to Jane Mayer because I always say, like, can't one reporter actually cover the donors, which is a real issue in this country? Jane Mayer covers it all the time. She does a brilliant job. She found the tape of them talking about how we couldn't possibly win with the American people.

So I think that she called it, or they call it under the dome strategy. Yes. So they got to go to the under the dome strategy, which means under the dome of the Capitol. So that means, screw the voters. We're just going to go for the corrupt politicians, which we own like Joe Manchin, a lot of the corporate Democrats, and all of the Republicans, don't lose track of that, all of the Republicans, they say, don't worry, all the Republicans will hold under the dome. Because they have no inclination to support their actual voters.

This is part of why Trump got so popular, because the Republican voters also knew that the corporate Republicans, which is the entirety of the party, are sell out corrupt. corrupt crooks. So when they had a choice of 17 people, they're like, well, they're all crooks, except Trump, I don't know, right? I know him from the reality show. And he's rich, maybe he doesn't need to be corrupt. And he's running on drain the swamp. And I know for a fact the rest of them are crooks. Well, you were right. Not about Trump, but the rest of them are crooks. And so are the Democrats that are going along with this. And yet, look, who do you see in the media, other than Jane Mayer and us? Who do you see saying, Joe Manchin,

obviously lying? There's a poll in his state about this act. And there's a poll in the country. It is the least bipartisan thing he can do. No, every stupid reporter parrots his talking point. Because Joe Manchin wants bipartisanship, because Joe Manchin wants to support the voters of West Virginia, you're actively lying on his behalf. Thank you, Jane Mayor, for being an actual journalist. Well, when we come back from the break, we'll tell you how progressive Democrats have responded and whether or not they're planning on fighting back. Stick around. a I'm going to be able to be.

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All right. Congressional progressives are allegedly, allegedly getting tired of accommodating to the demands of Joe Manchin and, yes, Senate Republicans, who Joe Manchin is courting. Now, Axios claims that these progressives are ready to fight back. Now, to give you a little more context before I tell you how progressives are responding to this, let me just give you a little piece, a little excerpt from Mansions op-ed over the weekend where he argues that he's going to vote against the For the People Act. That's the election reform bill that would get money out of politics and expand voting rights.

He says, I believe that partisan voting legislation will destroy the already weakening binds of our democracy. And for that reason, I will vote against the For the People Act. Furthermore, I will not vote to weaken or eliminate the Senate filibuster, which if it's obviously in place, it's going to block much of the progressive agenda and legislation that's currently being proposed by Joe Biden. Now, Jamal Bowman, a progressive Democrat in the House, spoke out against this. Let's take a look at what he had to say. Manchin is a no on doing anything to end the filibuster. He put it in writing.

Your reaction. Joe Manchin has become the new Mitch McConnell. Mitch McConnell during Obama's presidency said he would do everything in his power to stop Obama. He's also repeated that now during the Biden presidency by saying he would do everything in his power to stop President Biden. And now Joe Manchin is doing everything in his power to stop democracy. and to stop our work for the people, the work that the people sent us here to do. H.R. 1 not only is a huge bill when it comes to voting rights.

It's a huge bill in terms of getting big money out of politics, protecting our elections against fraud and ending gerrymandering. I mean, big money in politics is what's destroying our democracy. And the Republican Party is aiding and abetting that. and Donald Trump is obviously doing that as well. So Manchin is not pushing us closer to bipartisanship. He is doing the work of the Republican Party by being an obstructionist, just like they've been since the beginning of Biden's presidency. Now, credit where credit is due, it is incredibly rare to see Democrats hold their own accountable.

It's obviously very rare to see progressives hold corporate Democrats accountable, the way that you just saw Jamal Bowman do in that video. So he deserves credit for that. And obviously bringing attention to money in politics is something that you've cared about, Jank. So was that a relief to watch? Are you satisfied or would you want to see more?

Yeah. So my first reaction was, yes, there you go. And unsurprising that it'd be Jamal Bowman doing it. I told you it was strong. I told you. So he talked about Manson's corporate agenda. That never happens within the Democrats.

I guarantee you right now, there's tons of Democrats yelling at him behind the seats. Now, I don't know that for a fact, but I would be shocked if that was, how could you say that about our beloved colleague? Don't measure his corporate agenda. Why? Because then you'll expose everybody's corporate agenda, which is a huge part of the Democratic Party. But it takes courage to do what Jamal Bowman did. You might not see that because you don't see them yelling at him behind the scenes.

And they do it every time. They do it every time. And of course, the media. And Bourbon, by the way, was instantly skeptical. Isn't he really representing the voters in West Virginia? No, he's not. 71% of the voters in West Virginia say they're for the For the People Act, including 66% of Trump voters. Only 16% of Trump voters in West Virginia say no to the For the People Act.

You know why? Because it has anti-corruption. Democrat, Democratic voters, Republican voters, both love anti-corruption. And it's in For the People Act. And so, Jamal Bowman, by the way, Justice Democrat, didn't run on any. corporate pack money, didn't take any corporate back money. So he's free to say whatever the hell he wants to say. And it allows him to actually fight against corruption. Everyone who takes corporate money can't. Their hands are tied. Because the minute they say, hey,

Manchin's taking money. Mitch McConnell's taking money. They're going to turn around and go, hey, you corporate Democrat. Aren't you taking money too? Oops. Why do you think Joe Biden doesn't speak out against Joe Manchin? Because he takes the same money. He takes the same money. So is quote unquote good enough. Well, look, it's great for a start. And so let's give credit where credit is due. Do we want more? Of course do we do. First of all, where's everybody else? Where's everybody else? Okay, come on. The water's warm. You see, hey, Jamal just did it. And did the world collapse? No. Nancy Pelosi told you that if you ever challenged any of your so-called colleagues that the world would collapse and you, oh my God, you don't know how things

work around in Washington. Well, he just did it. And nobody's world collapsed. You could do it too. And so that's the whole, that was the whole point of building just Democrats. So they wouldn't take corporate money. That was the one litmus test. It worked. Now let's get it going. But in order to make it more real, you have to keep on building pressure and

keep on pointing out, it's a mansion protecting his donors, not his voters. And if people back up what Jamal Bowman is saying, then we could have momentum because, guys, the spotlight is important. Because right now, all of the media parrot the talking point,

that Joe Manchin is bipartisan. When Jamal Bowman puts a lie to that, and as he did later in their interview and say, no, most of the people in West Virginia in a bipartisan manner are actually in favor of this act that he's blocking. And he's doing it for his corporate donors. Everybody goes, oh, okay. And it changes the conversation.

It changes it from lies to the truth. Absolutely. I mean, I always think about, whatever Mansion comes up in the news in these types of stories, I always think about his panicked reaction, like he was hyperventilating over Vice President Kamala Harris, traveling to West Virginia just to rally support for the coronavirus relief bill. She didn't even mention mansion by name, right? She wasn't holding him accountable, but she knew what she was doing and going to his state to rally support for that incredibly

popular legislation. So obviously he can cave to pressure. We just need progressive Democrats to make him, right? So maybe this is the beginning of that. Mondair Jones also had some thoughts about Mansion on Twitter. He says Mansion's op-ed might as well be titled, why I'll vote to preserve Jim Crow. And what he's referring to is how the filibuster, historically speaking, has been used to block legislation pertaining to like civil rights. So I think that that talking point can be effective, but it can't just be tweets. It can't just be a few statements here or there, progressive Democrats, especially in the House, have the power to vote as a block, right? So if they use that leverage moving forward, they could get the same types

of concessions that Mansion has been able to get. But they haven't flexed that power yet. They haven't flexed that muscle yet. So Jane Mayer in a great piece in New Yorker pointed out that Mansion actually could get pressured. He got pressured by Coke Group, Coke Brothers group and Heritage Foundation, et cetera, they started running ads in West Virginia, and then Manchin then clarified. Now he probably, not probably, almost certainly was against for the people act anyway, because it exposes corruption and he's corrupt. But the minute they started running ads in West Virginia, he was like, okay, go, go, okay, I'll come out publicly against it. There you go. What happened? I thought Joe Manchin was immune from pressure.

No, he's not immune from pressure. Anna's right, the minute Kamala Harris shows up, he was in a cold sweat panic. And political, funny enough, had a good column a couple of days ago where they explained the problem with Joe Biden, and they didn't say it was a problem, right? I'm saying it's a problem, is that he's all carrots and no sticks. And so what did he do? He gave Joe Manchin's wife a position that she really wanted in West Virginia, carrot, carrot, carrot, carrot, and Manchin slapped him across the face and said, I'm not going to do any

of your agenda. And Biden's like, okay, sorry, sorry, you know why? Because he doesn't believe in his agenda. It's not really his agenda. He agrees with Joe Manchin. He's always agreed with Joe Manchin. So he doesn't want to hit Joe Manchin with a political stick because he agrees with him. And besides, which even if he wanted to, he's never done it his whole life except against progressives.

He would never do it to a fellow corporate Democrat. Right. Okay. And by the way, are they going to get up and start fighting back? Bowman also talked about how this was Jim Crow. And those are fighting words, right? So good job by Mondaier-Jones and particularly Bowman going on television, saying what he said, mentioning corporate agenda.

Okay. But in the Axios piece, they say a top Democrat said, quote, progressives are getting restless. I don't think they're going to revolt. I don't think there's anything to revolt too. Man, that's just, if that's true, that's so, so sad. Yeah, good luck, by the way. Good luck, Democrats, in persuading voters to show up to the polls and vote for your candidates after, I mean, all of the, you know, fear mongering about what will happen if those two senators in Georgia, the Senate runoff races, if those Democratic candidates don't win those Senate seats in Georgia, it'll be a disaster. We need to have the majority in the Senate. After all of that, after the voters delivering. If Democrats don't deliver in response to what voters did for them, how are you going to persuade voters to show up to the polls in the future?

Like how many times are you going to lie to people and get away with it? And I want to answer that so-called top Democrats quote. And don't take that to the bank. That person might not know anything about progressives. They might just be saying that's what they always say, right, in Washington. Progressives, you better sit down. There's nowhere to revolt to. Shut up and do as you're told.

That's what they say all the time. I can't believe that progressives in D.C. ever listen to that condescending attitude, the so-called top Democrats have. But let me tell you what the upside of a revolt in this case is. So everybody knows what the downside is? They say, oh, my God, what if you lose mansion in cinema? Well, you'd be in the same exact position as you are now. They're blocking every piece of legislation, so you wouldn't lose anything.

Right now, you're not going to pass for the people like. He wrote a whole op-ed saying, I'm not going to vote for it, even if you didn't have a filibuster. And he's not going to let you get rid of the filibuster. So you literally have nothing to lose. But you do have one important thing to gain at a minimum, even if you can't move mansion and cinema, if you go into an election in 2022 and all the Democrats bowed their heads to Mansion and Cinema and you all got nothing done together, well, that says the message to the American people, you guys are losers.

And you didn't really want to do anything. And you're at best, an incompetent party that means well, at best. But probably half the people will get the message, nah, you don't even mean well, right? But if a wing of the Democratic Party, at least the wing of the Democratic Party fights back against Manchin as cinema, you send the message that, well, man, some of the Democrats want to get stuff done, right? Some of the Democrats want voting rights. Some of the Democrats are anti-corruption instead of all the Democrats are cowards and losers and incompetent. So you tell me which is better. And guys, this whole thing of like, oh, it's better to have Joe Mention as a Democrat.

No, it's really not. No, because what he's doing is he's reinforcing Republican framing. And he's making them taking away voting rights all across the country in the states appear to be bipartisan because Manchin is saying they're protecting voting rights and I want to protect voting rights with them. And it gives them, not only does he vote with them, not only does he block all of our legislation through the filibuster, but he gives them that media advantage that is so important because if you're knee-deep in politics, you know how bad Joe Manchin is,

But most voters don't. All they see is the media calling him bipartisan, bipartisan, bipartisan unity wants to work together, et cetera. That's why you desperately need people like Jamal Bowman and the just Democrats coming in and going, no, no, we don't agree with this guy, and we don't agree with the Republicans, and we don't agree with corrupt corporate donors. Because that gives people hope and faith that some portion of the Democratic Party is actually going to fight for them. Well, as we know, a huge part of the Democratic Party is dumb and feckless. So that brings me to our next story. As Democratic lawmakers have to be all types of delusional to support an argument that legislation needs to be passed in a bipartisan way, something that Senator Joe Manchin keeps arguing. It's time to really rethink our daily award for The Dumb and the Feckless.

is that the Republicans will take back their party. Things keep dripping out, drip, drip, drip, drip, and the truth comes out. Over the weekend, conservative Democratic Senator Joe Manchin argued in an op-ed that he would not vote for election reform in the legislation known as the For the People Act and that he would maintain the Senate filibuster which blocks all the legislation that Democrats are trying to pass. Now, he's not the only Senate Democrat who's in favor of this. He's just the most vociferous one. There's as many as 10 Senate Democrats who are in line with what Mansion is saying in that op-ed. Now, Chris Wallace of Fox News, a conservative Fox News anchor called Manchin out to his face on how delusional this is. Let's hear how that conversation went down.

You have made it clear, and I'm not gonna ask you again, you said that you oppose scrapping the filibuster. The question I have is whether or not, and you say you hope that that will bring the parties together, the question I have is whether or not you're doing it exactly the wrong way. And hear me out on this. If you were to keep the idea that maybe you would vote to kill the filibuster, wouldn't that give Republicans an incentive to actually negotiate because old Joe Manchin's out there, and who knows what he's going to do, by taking it off the table. Haven't you empowered Republicans to be obstructionist?

I don't think so because we have seven brave Republicans that continue to vote for what they know is right and the facts as they see them, not worrying about the political consequences. I believe there's a lot more of my Republican colleagues and friends that feel the same way. I'm just hoping they are able to rise to the occasion to defend our country and support our country and make sure that we have a democracy for this republic of all the people. I'm just very hopeful that I see good signs. We're doing, Chris, more things than ever before. Give us some time.

No, but there is no time. There is no time. And when you're dealing with Senate Republicans who are bought off by coke-backed organizations that tell them, do not under any circumstance support election reform, don't support anything in Biden's agenda, what makes Joe Manchin think that they would ever vote in favor of the legislation? that Democrats want? What makes Joe Manchin think that they have any interest in bipartisanship? They don't.

He knows that. He's funded and corrupted by the same coke-backed organizations, which he's recently taken meetings with. There's no question about that. Read Jane Mayer's latest piece in the New Yorker. It'll give you details about a leaked phone call with these coke-backed organizations and Senate Republicans. But with that said, I mean, in that video, Jake, he mentions seven Senate Republicans

who have voted along with Democrats. Democrats. I'm assuming he's referring to Republicans who voted in favor of, I don't know, the commission, which by the way, you need 10 Senate Republicans to vote in favor of any legislation in order for it to pass. But when it comes to the coronavirus relief bill, not a single Republican lawmaker voted in favor of it after Senator Manchin secured all sorts of concessions, including cuts to the unemployment insurance program and additional means testing. They are not good faith actors, and Manchin knows that. I just got to give credit to Chris Wallace.

Turns out he's a journalist. Jeez, it's crazy, right? Yeah, I can't believe one of the very few journalists in America is on Vox News. And so, yes, I don't often agree with this framing, but I don't often agree with the framing of almost all the cable news anchors. And here he is asking real questions that no other reporter has the courage to ask. So, I mean, this is such a simple question. How in the world do you believe that you're going to get Republicans to vote?

I would have loved a follow-up question there where he said, Senator Manchin, are you familiar with math? Because you just told me seven senators, Republican senators can vote for the same thing. You know you need 10 Republican senators to break a filibuster, and you just wrote an op-ed saying you'll never get rid of the filibuster. And that seven was on the easiest bill. Hey, they tried to kill us in the Capitol, should we look into it? And even then you could only get seven Republican senators. Seven doesn't equal ten. Right. And then in terms of the no time point that Anna made. That's so important. Because if you wait too long, and that is Manchin's plan,

by the way, I also think it's Biden's plan. Biden is also against getting rid of the filibuster. It takes no heat for it because of Joe Manchin. But if you wait that long, you know what the red states are going to do? Oh, before the 2022 election, there's just not enough time for us to comply with the federal law. We're just going to have to go with our current laws that say that most black people can't vote, right? Or some portion of black people can't vote and some portion of college students and Latinos, et cetera, can't vote with all the past the votes we already, the laws we already passed in our state.

Hey, take it to the courts. We'll see you after the elections, after we've already won, right? Time is running out and Manchin knows it. He's helping his Republican friends, as he calls it, because he's not, look, he's not a Democrat, but he's also not an honest legislator. What's also pretty fascinating is that currently, I mean, all of these stories that we do about the current political climate are intertwined. They're all related. So currently we're seeing various red states restrict voting to the point that clearly advantages the Republican Party, right?

Part of the reason why Democrats want to pass an election reform bill is not just to get money out of politics. it's to ensure that all eligible voters are able to go to the polls and vote. It includes same day registration, voter registration, all sorts of things that expand voting or make it more accessible to eligible voters. And it would obviously counterbalance or mitigate the damage being done by the voter suppression bills in places like Georgia. So you have corporate Democrats in the Senate, as many as 10 of them, by the way. Mansion just happens to be the most vociferous one.

you have as many as 10 of them who understand that their own elections, their own re-elections are being jeopardized by what Republicans are doing right now. And they're still willing to go along with this farce. Like, they're still willing to go along with these nonsense talking points that are so hollow regarding bipartisanship. Well, if you're wondering why, I mean, it even endangers their own elections. Because for the People Act has anti-corruption measures. and those corporate Democrats don't want you to know who their donors are. It would reveal the dark money donors. And they also don't want progressives having grassroots money.

It has matching funds. Professor Lessig from Harvard is the one who came up with that idea. And he talked about it on the Young Turks and how it's monumentally important to democracy. When corporate Democrats hear that, they don't take that as a positive. They take it as a negative. Oh, my God. The only reason they win is because they have so much more money than progressives. And they get it from their secret corporate donors.

So they're pushing mansion out there. Go get him, big guy. Go get him. Oh, no, no, yeah. I got nothing to do with it, man. It was mansion. Joe Biden, your position is that you're for the filibuster. It kills your entire agenda.

How is that in any way logical? Unless you don't actually believe in your agenda. But I want to say one more thing about that interview. Chris Wallace asked him if he was being naive in his position, that the Republicans would vote with the Democrats. That's a polite way of saying, are you stupid? Because they never vote with you guys. And Mitch McConnell has said that he is going to try to block 100% of Biden's agenda.

Jank, you know what? I'm going to let myself indulge because we actually have that video, but I wasn't going to go to it to save time. But who cares? Who cares? You guys deserve to see it. So let's take a look at that video. I mean, let's just take the idea of creating a 9-11 commission.

to investigate the January 6th insurrection at the Capitol. Republicans block that. Senator McConnell, the head of the Republicans in the Senate, says that he's 100% focused on blocking the Biden agenda. Question, aren't you being naive about this continuing talk about bipartisan cooperation? I'm not being naive. I think he's 100% wrong in trying to block all the good things that we're trying to do for America. a lot better if we have participation. And we're getting participation.

But when it comes time to final vote, I disagree with leader McConnell on this, a minority leader on this issue, that he puts politics before the policies that I think we need for our country. I'm going to continue to keep working with my bipartisan friends, and hopefully we can get more of them.

I think McConnell's wrong. Okay. What are you going to do about it? Just saying that you think he's wrong and you disagree with him doesn't fix anything. And by the way, he's saying that McConnell is wrong about McConnell's position. I'm pretty sure McConnell knows his position.

He said, I'm going to try to block every single thing that Biden does. No, I don't really believe him. I think he secretly wants to help Joe Biden. I mean, that's not naive. That's not even stupid. That's just a lie, right? And look, I wish that Wallace, he did a fantastic job. Asked another logical question, which is, look, what you're saying is completely unbelievable,

based on the votes we've already had. So what are you actually trying to do? you trying to protect your corporate donors? Because the people of West Virginia don't agree with you. Overwhelmingly, they don't agree with you. The Republican voters in West Virginia don't agree with you. Nobody agrees with you. And you're blocking bipartisanship.

All right. So I want to go to Washington Post here because they actually show you what the real game is. And this is shocking coming from mainstream media outlet like Washington Post. I'll give them credit, too. So first, they explain skepticism about flatly eliminating the filibuster goes deeper in the Democratic ranks than the much-noted opposition of Senator Joe Manchin. Members such as Senator Gene Shaheen from New Hampshire said they are dismayed at Republican obstruction, but also believed that the specter of gridlock has been exaggerated by those pushing for rules changes. Garbage. Absolute garbage.

Did you de-block to January 6th Commission? How could it be exaggerated? They give you zero votes on the COVID relief, on COVID relief. The day passed when Trump was in office. Then they turn around and give you zero votes when you're in office. What do you mean exaggerated? What can they give you, negative votes? Okay.

And then here, this is the real game. A Democratic Senate aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, discussed internal matters, said there is a misconception that Manchin of Sinema are mainly responsible for holding on to the filibuster. In reality, the aide said there are at least 10 Democratic senators who disagree with key parts of the bills that Republicans are filibustering. But, quote, they just don't need to say anything crazy because Joe Manchin is out there taking all the arrows for them.

In other words, they were never going to vote for it in the end. place, we told you on the Young Turks, we told you before Biden even won, we told you after he won. Well, everybody else was calling him FDR 2.0. We told you he didn't never go to pass those bills? They never intended to pass those bills. And here is the Washington Post confirming there are 10 Democratic senators that don't want any piece of that. By the way, the one time that we forced the vote they didn't want, that was on $15 minimum wage. And you guys did that. I swear to God you did it. Tens of thousand people signed our petition and sent videos into Bernie Sanders.

He wasn't going to introduce an amendment, and he did on the $15 million in waste. They had to take a vote on it. They were forced to take a vote. And how many people voted against it? It wasn't just the Republicans. Eight Democratic senators voted against it. By the way, they didn't even need it.

They could have hid behind Mansion of Cinema. But the other six were like, no, no, no. I can't have my donors thinking that I'm actually with my voters. No, I want to make sure your wages are crushed. Low, $7.25 cents. Make $15,000 a year. working full time every day. Go back to the goddamn minds.

That's what Chris Coon said, top ally of Joe Biden. That's what both Delaware senators said. That's what Genez said. All these guys, they never meant it. They're corporate, corrupt senators just like the Republicans. We told you, and that's exactly what's happening now. We're going to take a break, and when we come back, we'll tell you about the Daily Wires Mutual Aid stunt

and why it was trash. And we have lots of other great stories to get to. So make sure you come back. We'll see you in just a few minutes. Okay, you know what I was just re-tweeting right there. The Young Turks account on Twitter pointed out there actually was one, um, Journalists of a sort that did ask mention about his donors. You know who that was?

Me. When he came on the Young Turks in 2017, and I asked him about his donors. And when I showed him his top-end donors, he said, oh, I've never seen that list. He didn't want to be called out, Jenks. Yeah, okay. That's what I thought. That's, look, that's part of what we mean by Be the Change. Let's go do this thing together.

Look, all these wonderful people have already signed up. Now, new folks on YouTube alone, Craig C. Bailey, Shady Play, Eric Size, Don Strong, Ian Plunkett, Gunga Cat 420, that's funny. Lisa Sheehan, all just joined by hitting the join button below. We're going to bring change to this country. We are. Look, and I know just Democrats slow out of the gate in this term, and I was greatly frustrated by it. But now you see Jamal Bowman stepping up.

And wait till you get a load on Nina Turner. I don't know if you guys know this. I mean, they should do a whole different story on it, but a poll just came out in Nina's race. She's winning by a three to one margin. She's at 50. There's like 12 people in the race. She's at 50 points. The second closest person is at 15 points.

Nina Turner.com slash hello. Part of the reason for that is because you guys contributed to her. It allows her to get her message out. I told you, Nina Turner.com slash hello. When you get Nina in there with Jamal and Corey and others, it's going to be a whole different ballgame. All right. So let's see how that plays out. But we're going to try to build a change machine here too.

I told you about that. All right, I got to give you some of your comments. So Aaron wrote in, I've never even heard the word parliamentarian until Biden took office. And yet they're the scapegoat for everything now, along with Mansion. If you're not going to fight for your alleged agenda, how are you even a real president? There was a great tweet. I wish I had it for you guys. But one of our viewers tweeted, undermined, is saying, you know, I'd love to vote for the Democrats next time around.

But my local parliamentarian told me I couldn't. I mean, there's not that I could do, it's a parliamentarian, right? I mean, if you said that to the Democrats, they said, you voters are terrible people for not voting for us. What, what do you mean? The parliamentarian said it. Oh, good for the goose, not good for the gander. I got it.

Okay. Now, just be anti-racist, says, Manchin makes me contemplate if he's reading the tea leaves regarding what states are doing locally to put Republicans in power, and as such, Manchin might be considered formally changing parties. Oh, of course he's considering it. And by the way, I think Chris the cinema is more likely to do it. She skipped the vote on the January 6th commission.

Only reason you skip that vote is if you're thinking of switching parties. So watch out for cinema. Even if Manchin finally goes, oh, yeah, I'm bipartisan. I try, but couldn't do it. All right, let's vote. He has a filibuster. No, cinema's going to switch parties. So we're not going to win on this stuff.

You might as well fight them so that we know that there's some Democrats who are honest and decent, if that's the case. The Crafts rebuttal, these are all our members. That's the other upside of being a member. I wish just one mainstream media reporter would ask them who they're trying to be bipartisan with the American people are a bunch of old, crusty white guys in D.C. Just once.

All right, back on the Young Turks. I'm going to give one shout out to a member on Twitch, Court for Jester Road, and thank you for providing factual news in progressive politics. I love TYT, and every opportunity I have to tell my family and friends about you guys I take. Jank and Anna never lose hope and never lose the passion. Love you guys. We love you guys right back. It's absolutely literal that without you guys, there is no young Turks. You lifted us up and you could bring positive change in the world.

That's why we're doing tyt.com slash change right now to bring that positive change in the world. Again, more people just sign up. Sharon Kelly, Siggy 7835, Bill Holcraft all did it by hitting the join button below on YouTube, but you could also do it through tyt.com slash change. All right, Anna. All right. Conservatives over at the Daily Wire thought it would be funny to troll Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez after she shared some photos on social media of what her

grandmother's home looks like in Puerto Rico in an effort to make a point about the damage that was done after the Trump administration intentionally froze funding, relief funding, to Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria, which of course was devastating. Now Daily Wire Writer and podcast host Matt Walsh launched a GoFundMe on Friday seeking to needle Ocasio Cortez after she posted these photos showing her grandmother's home in Puerto Rico in a state of disrepair. Now AOC again was trying to draw attention to the fact that the Trump administration had delayed $20 billion that had been appropriated by Congress to provide relief to Puerto Ricans following Hurricane Maria. Now it all started after 2018 when OMB or the Office of Management and Budget began requiring HUD to send grant notices for disaster funds through an interagency review process for approval, making it hard for HUD to publish the notices needed to unlock funding in a timely manner. Investigators found that OMB had never before required such a review before posting notice or allocating the recovery funds. Now, the Trump administration's OMB insisted on overhauls to Puerto Rico's property management

records, suspension of its minimum wage on federal contracts, and other prerequisites to access relief funds. So I'm giving you all of that context so you can understand what AOC was trying to draw attention to. The United States government is responsible for providing relief funds to various states. And by the way, of course, Puerto Rico, since it's under our jurisdiction, when these natural disasters happen. But what Matt Walsh wanted to do here was basically make the argument that AOC is such an awful person because she's not helping her grandmother, which is ridiculous. But more importantly, that we should just rely on mutual aid in lieu of an actual robust government social safety net that helps out when people are in trouble because of these natural.

disasters. So here's what his tweet said. He says, as you've heard, AOC's Abuela is living in a dilapidated home that was ravaged by Hurricane Maria. AOC is unable to help her grandma for whatever reason. So I have set up this GoFundMe campaign to save her home. Please give if you can. Now the GoFundMe apparently raised as much as $100,000 before it was stopped because someone reached out to GoFundMe to inform them that AOC and her family have no intention of taking that money. So Matt Walsh updates Twitter by saying, update someone in AOC's abuela family told GoFundMe that she won't take the money, even though AOC previously claimed that her grandma was in dire straits, and it was Trump's fault. AOC still hasn't acknowledged this effort or thanked us,

and later AOC did respond, Jank, by saying you don't even have a concept for the role that first generation first born daughters play in their families. My abuela is okay, but instead of caring for mine and letting others suffer, I'm calling attention to the systemic injustices you seem totally fine with in having a U.S. colony. And I think she's right about that. Yeah, of course. Look, the only thing I would have differed on is I'd have taken the money. And then I would have used it against, not only use it for her house, but for the other house in the community. and I would have done a large press conference in explaining what I'm about to say, which is, guys, we can't do this one person at a time.

We do this in health care too. Oh, my mom has cancer, Indiegogo. Yeah. Okay, my dad's about to die. Please go fund me. No, no, every other developed nation has universal health care. So people don't have to beg online or in the streets to save their mom when they have cancer. or to save their grandmother when the American government betrays her and all of her neighbors

and other communities and other neighborhoods in Puerto Rico. We know for a fact now that the Trump administration withheld $20 billion from Puerto Rico that they were supposed to get during Hurricane Maria. Why did he do it? Well, he did it because they criticized him. He's such a monster. He's such actually caring about the people of Puerto Rico. Plus, he figured they're a colony.

And so being the colonialist that he is, being the terrible imperial person that he is, oh, by the way, portions of the so-called left wing, they're like, oh, I'm so worried about imperialism. And so I don't mind Trump. Yeah. And look at what he's doing in Puerto Rico. They don't vote. Who cares? And you know what?

He accused them of corruption. How's that for ironic? And that's why he didn't want to give him the $20 billion. When they looked into the facts, turns out Texas and Florida. They're doing the same exact thing, but they vote, and they vote Republicans. So he funneled all the money to them, nothing to Puerto Rico. And then when AOC points out that hypocrisy, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're not taking care of your grandmother. Let's do it, go ha ha ha, ha, ha, go fund me, so funny, ha.

It's not funny. The way that you actually do it is you follow the law. Congress already appropriated that money, but you guys are sick people, so you wouldn't actually let it get to Puerto Rico. And we have to look, the whole point of government is to act collectively. Yes. Now when- But they don't want that, Jank. Like that's the point, right?

I was going to say though, it depends, though, Anna. It depends. When you're talking about cops, they're like, yes, pull all our money together and give it to all the cops and make sure they beat the living crap out of all the minorities and protect my home and property. My property, my property. Government help me! Government help me! There's black people protesting in the streets. Government, collect together all the money and give it to all the cops.

Oh, you don't mind it when it goes to cops. You don't mind it when it goes to the fire department, which makes sense. It should go to the fire department. We do need to have police. But why? They protect your lives. You know what else protects your life? Health care.

Otherwise, you die without it, right? But when it comes to that, no, no, I got enough money. I'm okay. Or otherwise, you know, I'll go online and beg and beg. Why? Because drug companies and insurance companies pay off. Republicans, by the way, and Democrats, you're shilling for, giant corporations, you're not even a part of you, suckers, you morons on the right wing?

Oh, no, no, no, I don't want health care. I just want to beg when I get sick, okay? Why? Because, oh, because Mitch McConnell is getting, and by the way, Donald Trump, and by the way, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, they're all getting paid off by drug companies. They're all getting, what, Joe Biden, what happened? I thought we're going to negotiate drug prices. Nothing, nothing. Corporate Democrats are just as guilty as corporate Republicans. So, but look, there's also a huge disconnect, right? Because I don't want to. you to equate the desires of Republican voters with the desires of goons like people over at the Daily Wire who get funded by millionaires and billionaires to spread the propaganda that they spread, right? They've got their grift going, they're fine. They just don't

want to contribute to federal taxes, which fund these social safety net programs, and ensure that if there is a natural disaster, people get the help that they need. But when it comes to Republican voters. I mean, just think back at the 2016 election where Donald Trump pretended like he wanted to expand Medicaid, or I'm sorry, Medicare, right? That he wanted universal health care and how much Republican voters supported that kind of messaging. So there is a disconnect and it's important to like be able to suss that out because really I think most voters, regardless of their political ideology, understand that relying on mutual aid, which really means relying on the whims of millionaires and billionaires to provide help

through charity is not the sign of a system that works. It's a sign of a broken system. They're trying to turn all of us into beggars. But it's our money, we paid the taxes. We should be able to get what every other country gets, including Canada, including Mexico, including all of Europe. And for those of the extreme right wing who are the racist, oh, white people are awesome. Well, all the super white people of Europe, of Northern Europe, have luxurious health care.

Okay, we're the only ones who don't have it. We're the only ones who don't have it. Because, oh, no, my corporate donors have to get paid. They're those daily wire guys. By the way, they don't even get investments. What they get is just flat out money. Yes. Here, take this money and do propaganda for me, okay?

Because one of their donors or whatever is the Hicks brothers, right? So they're frackers. They built their money. They built their money on fracking. So what is the people, what are the people a daily wire do? Fracking is awesome. Screw the environment. Ha, ha, green new deal.

They won't let you eat burgers. Let's just lie about it. Who cares? Who cares? We got money to lie. So let's just do it, right? So even if you're a right winger, they're deceiving you. And maybe it's easy to understand it when it's, maybe you don't care when it's Puerto Rico.

Oh, AOC, I don't like AOC. Oh, Latinos and Latinos, I don't like them, right? So, oh, yeah, we don't send them money. Ha, ha, ha, right? But it also affects you guys. Look at what happened in Texas because of the donors. They didn't let them, they didn't make them repair the energy infrastructure because it would cost their beloved corporations an extra dollar.

And then you froze to death in Texas, but you'd already paid your taxes. That's right. And rob you over and over again and funnel all the money to corporations. If you actually care about corruption, and I actually know through polling that the Republican voters do care about corruption, it's their one. saving grace. Vote these bums out, the corporate Republicans and the corporate Democrats.

All right, that does it for hour one. We're going to take a break. And when we come back, Mo Brooks makes a fool out of himself, a Republican congressman. He has been served with a lawsuit that he does not like. And later in the show, we'll do some international news as well

and fill you in on the outcome of the midterm elections in Mexico and the journalists that have been detained and released in Israel come right back we got that and more when we return thanks for listening to the full episode of the young Turks support our work listen ad-free access members only bonus content and more by subscribing to Apple podcast at apple dot co slash t yt I'm your host jank youger and I'll see you soon