The Young Turks - Marines Get Deployed - March 13, 2026

Episode Date: March 14, 2026

A U.S. military refueling plane crashes in Iraq, with six service members killed as tensions tied to the Iran conflict continue to ripple across the region. Donald Trump faces criticism for misleading... claims about the war while also issuing a 30-day sanctions waiver allowing the purchase of Russian oil at sea. Thanks to Shopify and Zip Recruiter for today's episode: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Just go to this exclusive web address right now to try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE: ziprecruiter.com/tyt Hosts: John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞  https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK  ☞   https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER  ☞       https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM  ☞  https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK  ☞          https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH  ☞      https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Amazing. Have it all with 3-1 Disney Plus. I need it. Let's go! Turks, Jank Uy, or John Ida-Olo with you guys. John is, of course, the host, Damage Report. Check it out every day live at 1 o'clock Eastern on YouTube and everywhere else we are. Second hour, we're going to have an interesting power panel. Me, Nina Turner, and Marjorie Taylor Green.
Starting point is 00:01:42 She's going to join us today as one of our guest hosts. And so we're going to have an interesting discussion about Iran with them and as well. We're gonna give you all the updates, including we've lost more planes and ships and men. And here come the ground troops, so tons and tons of updates. But in the second hour with Representative Green and Senator Turner, we're also going to discuss the SAVE Act, that's the voter ID law, housing, and so what kind of agreements and disagreements are we going to have? So tune in for that. All right. So John, let's start with Iraq. I'm sorry, Iran, but kind of Iraq because the plane crash was in Iraq. Right. It's feeling kind of similar too,
Starting point is 00:02:27 but yeah, you undersold the most fun story, Shugate. Shoe done it. What's going on with the shoes? But anyway, I think it does actually have a lot to say about the political movement. So in any event, we do have a lot to get into and there are a lot of updates when it comes to both Iraq and now Iran, so why don't we jump into it? When are you going to know when it's over? When I feel it. Okay. I feel it in my bones.
Starting point is 00:02:52 A major setback has struck U.S. military operations in the Middle East as a Boeing K-C-135. Stratotanker crashed in Western Iraq while supporting combat missions linked to the ongoing war with Iran. War is hell. War is chaos. And as we saw yesterday with the tragic crash of Iraq, we saw yesterday with the tragic crash of our KC 135 tanker, bad things can happen. Yeah, bad things do happen, increasingly so when you decide to start a war for literally no reason.
Starting point is 00:03:26 And I'm glad that the Secretary of Defense there at least acknowledged these deaths. He continues to refuse to take seriously the fact that we bombed that school full of little girls. But as he was alluding to there, yes, an air of air refueling plane did crash in Iraq. And the story's been developing over the night. the number of dead has gone up. We were told originally four, now it's at six. That brings the official number of American dead in Donald Trump's War of Choice in Iran to 13. And Jank, you heard that first clip that it's just up to Trump's bones, I guess, to decide when this conflict is over. Do you think there's any chance hitting 13 dead will give him that feeling
Starting point is 00:04:07 in his bones? No, no, I mean, maybe his bone spurs. But so look, a lot of folks, have passed away already, 13 Americans, but we also have details John's going to give you about the number of ships that have been hit. We've now lost four planes. And nevertheless, the administration is telling us this is super easy. Now, at the same time, they're also sending in ground troops. Oh, oh. So John, give you the facts on the damage, then we'll come back and talk about the ground troops. Yeah, I think it's very reasonable for us to talk primarily about the service members who have died and it is a tragedy. Every single one that died and none of them needed to die and wouldn't have died if not for Donald Trump. But let's bear in mind, you know,
Starting point is 00:04:53 there's been 11 Israelis that have been killed. There's been far over a thousand Iranian civilians who have died in Lebanon, thanks to the cover this war has provided. More than 100 children have died in the Israeli bombardment there. So there's a lot of deaths to go around. And coincidentally, I acknowledge this on the damage report this morning, 13 American dead we've now hit. That is the number. of American service members that died in Biden's pullout from Afghanistan. And that number, we were told at the time, was an utterly unacceptable number of dead. And the Republicans hammered Biden about it for literally years. And I hear crickets now about it. Can't seem to work themselves up to criticize Donald Trump. And that was to get out of a war. This is to stay in one
Starting point is 00:05:36 for reasons that he can't articulate. So let's talk now about how these most recent American soldiers were killed by Donald Trump's war. According to the US Central Command, the incident occurred in friendly airspace during Operation Epstein Epic Fury and rescue efforts are ongoing. Two aircraft were involved in the incident. One went down in Western Iraq, the other landed apparently in Israel, and we are told that it was not due to hostile fire, understandably so. This was far away from hostilities or even friendly fire, which of course has been an issue in this conflict already. Now here is what we are hearing from Iran. So our side is saying it wasn't as a result of fire. The Islamic resistance in Iraq
Starting point is 00:06:20 there's an umbrella group of Iran backed armed factions. They claimed responsibility for downing military refueling aircraft. The group said in a statement it had shot down the KC 135 aircraft in defense of our country's sovereignty and airspace. And if you're not familiar with this type of plane, it's a big refueling plane. Basically it refueles other planes in midair so that they can conduct longer or further missions. The plane is also used to transport wounded personnel, during medical evacuations and conduct surveillance missions. It's not like a combat plane, though. It's a support plane that operates outside of the immediate theater there. And it would be considered rare for them to be shot down because they're just not close by. And so it's entirely
Starting point is 00:06:59 possible that this group is just, this is bravado. They want to claim that they've done more damage than they did. So they're saying that, or it's possible that they did actually shoot it down. We don't know for sure. We do know that the planes were quite old. These particular tankers have been service for more than 60 years. And there have been other fatal crashes with KC-135s in the past. There was one back in May of 2013. So it's possible it's just another unfortunate incident like that that tragically resulted in multiple deaths. Now on the other side, sentcom commator Admiral Brad Cooper confirmed that they had hit over 5,500 targets inside of Iran, including more than 60 ships. But that said, Ron still has the capability to do damage. They're not shooting down our jets or
Starting point is 00:07:47 anything like that, but they have hit at least 16 oil tankers cargo and other commercial ships in or near the Strait of Hormuz. That continues every day. Every day we're told they have the situation under control. Every day Trump tells them to just have guts and Hegsa says we've got it on lockdown, trust me, that's literally what he said, and every day more get hit. And it's clear that that is a big part of the strategy of Iran, the new Ayatollah who might or might not have been hit in a strike in the last 24 hours stressed, these attacks will continue saying the leverage of blocking the Strait of Hormuz must also continue to be used. Studies have been conducted regarding the opening of other fronts in which the enemy has little experience and will be highly
Starting point is 00:08:29 vulnerable and their activation will be carried out if the state of war continues and in accordance with strategic considerations. And they say also that they're going to avenge the blood of those who who were killed in the school bombing. It's entirely possible, Jenk, that's more bravado. I don't know what strategies they're referencing there. But we do know that if and when they send in ground troops and there's reason to believe that that's likely to happen. Iran's a big country with a lot of people, incredibly mountainous, mountainous. It feels like, kind of like a worst case scenario of all the worst parts of Iraq and Afghanistan all balled into one. So what do you think? Yeah, let me give more facts and then I'll get into my opinion. So we've got now four planes,
Starting point is 00:09:10 that have that we've lost. I can't tell either if the last plane was shot down and we're lying about it or or they just had a near collision midair and one of the planes fell and another one landed in Israel. But either way when you start a war, are you gonna lose some planes? Of course. Are you gonna lose some American service members? Of course. So that's not, of course, so that's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Of course, so don't start the war because it's guaranteed, it's baked in. And we're talking about $2 billion a day that we're spending on this war. We talked about that yesterday. Now Scott Besson says, oh, by the way, it's caused another $11 billion in damage to the American economy. So now the 11.8 billion was the first six days. Now we're day 14. So if I'm doing the math right, we're already at about $35 billion in costs for this war
Starting point is 00:10:10 in the first two weeks. And as far as I know, that does not count the four planes we lost or the munitions that we use. So that is a tremendous cost to America. And the cost to our service members are incalculable, infinite to their families, and there's going to be a lot more of them as we begin to tell you about the ground troops. And already we've spent a gigantic amount of money. And of course, this is all for Israel's war.
Starting point is 00:10:38 We have no interest in there. And Trump has said a billion times, we destroyed their whole Navy, their whole Air Force, all their lands minesweepers, and their ballistic missiles and their regime. Then what are we still doing there? What's the latest trend in hiring? Skills-based hiring, which actually emphasizes capabilities over education and direct experience. According to experts, this leads to faster hiring and better job performance. Well, if you're an employer who's adopted skills-based hiring,
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Starting point is 00:11:47 And now you can try it for free at ZipRecruiter.com slash TYT. That's ZipRecruiter.com slash TYT. Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. So we know what we're doing there. Israel wants regime change and they wanted to be specifically their own puppet. A little bit later in the program, I'll tell you what their latest trick is to reel us into ground troops. So now in terms of the ships that have been hit in the Strait of Hormuz, it was sixth the day before. Then it jumped to 16.
Starting point is 00:12:21 and Trump was speaking to the G7 leaders, and he says, we got it all figured out. Straight a horror move is going to be cleared. No problem. You can send your ships through. Two more ships got hit after he told the G7 leaders that. That night they were on fire, right? So we don't have anything under control.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Our president is an enormous liar, totally delusional, and has absolutely no idea what's going on. Again, we'll talk more about that a little bit later in the show. Now, to update John's numbers, last I saw 14 Israelis killed, they say 2,000 injured. In Lebanon, we've got over 600 civilians last I checked. But again, all these numbers are going to go up dramatically when the new numbers come in closer to nighttime. So every day we wake up to a new nightmare. And by the way, the Lebanon thing is Israel had planned to invade Lebanon all along.
Starting point is 00:13:16 and now they've moved out 800,000 to a million people. They made them refugees, and they're bombing all over Lebanon. And that's because they had always planned to take territory in the middle of this war. This is all about Israel's agenda. It has nothing to do with us. If we had any objectives, Donald Trump has now told us a thousand times we've already accomplished them. So we should leave immediately. Okay, now, to my opinion, along with leaving immediately, time.
Starting point is 00:13:46 is not our friend, guys. That's why I say immediate. So we're, number one, the longer we go, the less defensive missiles we have, people keep sleeping on that, they keep forgetting about that. But part of the reason for the new wave that I'm about to tell you that's coming in is because we need more defensive missiles. And that's just after two weeks. And we remember, we use a quarter of our defensive missiles for our entire stock in the earlier 12-day war. We have not had time to replenish them. Now, if we're going at the same pace as that 12-day war, that means another quarter of our defensive missiles are gone. We only have half left. If I understood the reporting right of our entire arsenal, what are we going to do when we don't have any defensive
Starting point is 00:14:32 missiles left? They take a long time to build. They cost about $4 million. Iranian journals only cost $35,000. And the Strait of Hormuz, it doesn't look like they're going to be able to get it open at all. So now oil prices are back to skyrocketing, even though again later in the show we're gonna tell you about how the, we were saying, okay, Russian sanctions, we didn't mean it. You just put in all the oil. When we put in, what, I think, $178 million from our reserves. 32 other countries put in $400 million, 400 million barrels from their reserves. And so now, by the way, that was all of a record release, totally unprecedented in history. and oil prices still went up.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That's how bad this is, right? So the Iranians say they're going to try to drive it to $200 per barrel, which would be $10, $12 per for gallon gas in America. I mean, and this is just an epic disaster in every way. Now you saw Donald Trump say there in the first clip, this world will be over when I feel it. What is that? What is it?
Starting point is 00:15:36 I mean, what a moronic president. He said, I don't know, I feel it. What does I'll feel it mean? What is our objective? The G7 leaders asked Trump, okay, yes, but what's your goal? Because now a lot of us are in this war. What is our collective goal? When do we know it's over?
Starting point is 00:15:55 He said he didn't know. Oh, come on, man. And then to John's point about crickets, John, you know, there's a lot we're not talking about in national media. Right? Or they're not talking about in traditional media, establishment media. Number one, no one's talking about the invasion of Lebanon. Like that's just apparently normal. Like, oh yeah, Israel's going to take more land from their neighbors and slaughter them.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's okay. That's okay. That's totally normal. No, it's not. It's outrageous and disgusting. And unbearable, we saw a video of a three-year-old who was murdered by the Israelis in this bombing campaign. I mean, go watch those three-year-olds murdered by the Israelis. and tell me that it's normal.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It's not normal at all. And then in terms of the Democrats, where the hell are they? I couldn't help myself. Did a furious live video about it this morning. Chuck Schumer or Keem Jeffries are like, I don't know if there was Savannah Guthrie's mom, but they're like, they're missing. I don't know, let's do a search party, I don't know where they are. But honestly, John, other than Rokana, I don't see any Democrat fighting back.
Starting point is 00:17:05 A little bit of Chris Murphy, a tiniest smidge of Ruben Gai. I don't see LAOC is nowhere to be found. Squads nowhere to be found. Progressive Caucus is nowhere to be found. Listen, we need to put out search parties for 98% of the Democratic Party. Well, I mean, John Federman is out there fighting against investigations into the girls we slaughtered. So he's, he's fired up, I guess. That's something.
Starting point is 00:17:29 But anyway, yeah, no, the entire thing's frustrated. But what would we have expected from Chuck Schumer and Hockey of Jeffries? They haven't done anything for over a year now. Why are they going to start now? especially when this isn't a thing they necessarily disagree with Trump all that much on. There's been past things where at least I buy that they kind of disagree. I don't know that they necessarily disagree with any of this. Because sure, it's a failure for us.
Starting point is 00:17:48 And I think, look, I said relatively early on that Donald Trump was given off major lame duck things. That was maybe a bit early. I'm going to say we lost this war. I mean, we lost it before we launched it because the military told Trump that his stated goals, which are constantly changing, we're not going to happen. you were not going to get regime changed by bombing them. That's not a thing that was going to happen. You were not going to be able to secure the straight-of-form moves. It's not a thing that's going to happen. And he decided to do it anyway. And so I think that we lost because we could never win.
Starting point is 00:18:18 He was never going to get what he said he wanted, even though what he says he wants to change constantly. I even heard him talk about the Iranian people and how it's important for them to be free. I haven't heard him talk about that in a long time. Lots of people as administration are talking about nuclear weapons. Like you can't see a Republican on Fox News about them talking about it. Donald Trump barely even talks about that anymore. It's a He just talks about how it's awesome that we're killing them and that, oh, tomorrow we're going to hit them even harder. He just announced next week we're going to hit them really hard. And I think that's a good idea. We should try that. We probably should have tried that on day one, actually. So it isn't just that the war is stupid and that it's failing.
Starting point is 00:18:53 But Donald Trump also, and the Republicans around him, are so much worse at the calm side of this than they used to be. He's not selling the war, a war that on day one was less popular than any military engagement that America has engaged in and the better part of 50 years, all the Republican senators are rushing to TV to tell everyone to shut the hell up about gas prices. It's a sacrifice you should willingly make when you voted against more wars, and they think that's a winning message. And meanwhile, who's winning? Well, Israel's getting everything they want. They get to kill some Iranians. They get the air defenses taken out. So if they want to do further missions, they'll be a little bit safer. They get cover to invade Lebanon, steal a little bit more land. Obviously, Vladimir Putin is doing
Starting point is 00:19:37 well because he's going to make absolute bank off of gas prices going up. So I guess they're doing well. The American people once again are getting the shaft. That's what it feels like, Jank. Well, that's what it feels like is definitely true. Now speaking of that, let's go to the escalation that has been ordered. So both Wall Street Journal and Axios reporting right before Showtime, several more warships are headed to the Gulf, more F-35s, and most importantly, 5,000 ground troops. Marines and sailors, and you don't send ground troops unless you're gonna use them.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So all that talk of like, well, no, no, no, red line is ground troops. Oh, we're just going to be easy. It's going to be like Venezuela. We're just going to bomb them. We're going to annihilate them obliterate them. We're so cool and manly. Then we're going to do some push-ups. Well, you've done all your push-ups, and now you're sending in ground troops just like we told you they would.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Okay, so there are two reasons they're going to use it as an excuse. Going forward, you will see this all over your television, and when you see it, you'll know that there's a script ahead of time. None of this is true. It's scripted theater. They're going to start telling you about, oh, my God, the uraniums is dispersed throughout Iran. There's no way we can get it unless we have ground troops. Do you want nukes? If you don't, like, we're all gonna die of nuclear war unless we put in ground troops and get the uranium.
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Starting point is 00:22:25 Go to Shopify.com slash TYT. That's Shopify.com slash t yt. Not at all, but they're going to pretend that they do, and they're going to say, well, there's some enriched uranium. We have no idea where it is in a country four times the size of Iraq, but I guess we're going to have to put in a lot of ground troops to try to find it. And then they're going to talk about the Iranian religious police. There's a group there. And they said, well, you know, they're against gay people. And Trump started talking about it today.
Starting point is 00:22:57 You would like to protect the gay people of Iran, and that's why you're going to put in ground troops? And women, they're constantly beating and raping women. Here we go again with the rape, right? Meanwhile, Israel just let out five guys who raped Palestinian prisoners in their gulags on tape. We saw it, right? And the Israelis are like, congratulations. One of them is now like being celebrated on television, being like, yes, way to rape the Palestinians, right? I'm not making it up, guys.
Starting point is 00:23:31 You can see it on this video of it on Israeli television. There's no question that they let him go. But meanwhile, we have propaganda about, oh, the Iranians are raping their own women. So the only way to beat these police in Iran is to do ground troops. Wait, are we going to fight all of the police in Iran? And are we still pretending that this is for the Iranian people as we draw bomb after bomb on top of their heads? So John, this is about to get way, way worse.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah, it definitely looks like that. No, they, I mean, we kept, and I'll end on this, we kept saying when they sent all the ships, massive armada, they did it to Venezuela, and we said they're not doing that unless they're going to use it. And then they did it in Iran, and we said they're not going to do it unless they're going to use it. And we were proven right, both of those times, they're not sending 5,000 Marines just to take great pictures off the side of a ship or something.
Starting point is 00:24:25 They're sending there to land them. And so, you know, we're gonna get another test of a more significant swath for the American public who were vocally against this war before. Now we're gonna have ground troops. We're gonna see if finally we get some popular opposition to this. There should be massive groups of people in the streets. Why are they not protests like there were in the invasion in Iraq? When at least they had a little good, a good propaganda around that. They're not even trying this time.
Starting point is 00:24:50 You know, John- even see anything? I have an answer for that. It's because the Democratic leaders are, have betrayed us. And so a lot of times those groups that organize the protests work with Democrats, and they're just stooges for the Democrats. So if does Democrats say don't, don't protest it, they don't do it. So they're all sitting on their hands waiting for permission from Chuck Schumer, who actually loves this war, and he's so happy we launched it on behalf of his beloved Israel. And then he's going to say during the elections, having Jeffries, as they stuffed their pockets in their mouths full of Israeli lobby money, they're going to turn around and go, we were opposed to the war, when in reality they were totally 100% in favor of it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And prove me wrong. Get on TV and fight, fight, fight against the war. I have seen none of it from them. None of it. Giant liars. And oh wow, it turns out 94% of Congress taking money from the Israeli lobby was relevant. Mainstream media told you, oh, it's not relevant. Those politicians are so honorable.
Starting point is 00:25:59 They would never care about that. Look at them, all of them, either outwardly or secretly, totally in favor of this war because they were paid to be in favor of the war by the Israeli lobby. And that's how this game is played in America. It's sick, it's disgusting, and the number one thing you should do is get money out of politics. Otherwise, foreign governments and corporations are going to buy our politicians to the end of time. And in the short term, vote out all of the incumbents. Unless their name is Roe-Connor or Tom Massey, or you could show me exactly how they fought this war,
Starting point is 00:26:34 vote out all the bums because they're totally against you. They've totally betrayed you, and they're working for a different country. plus the defense contractors, plus the oil companies. All their donors are ecstatic. That's why the Democrats aren't fighting at all, and that's why the Republicans are driving you further and further into this war, where more of us are going to get killed, and they're going to celebrate in Washington, and they're going to celebrate in Tel Aviv. All right, we're going to take a question.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah, when we come back, more disasters about this war, because Trump has talked about it, And when you see what he said, you're going to realize the president is completely delusional. I'm not saying that as like some sort of hyperbolic attack against them, guys. It's literal. You'll see when we return. All right, back on CYT, t.com members, Gemmeles, says Trump doesn't care about the dead. Trump cares about higher oil prices for his donors, more military industrial spending for his donors, Israeli blackmail involving Epstein and helping Zionist donors.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Can't find a lie. Winston Smith the second says, don't worry Lockheed Martin, Grumman, and Boeing will be reimbursed two to one by us. Yep, they're going to be incredibly rich. They love this war, death, and destruction. They're having parties at Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, and Boeing. They're probably setting off firecrackers. The billions were going to make, maybe trillions.
Starting point is 00:28:27 From all the dead, way to go, Israel, and they're probably high five with them. T.01790 says his delusion's best proves that we're losing. Don Dada Dragon says they're going to use the mines in the strait of Hormuz in place of the ridiculous IED goal. If we stop, they'll put mines in the straight again. We have to do regime change. You're right about that too. They'll do that. They'll do every single thing to allow you into further and further into this war.
Starting point is 00:28:54 And by the way, we're going to find out who MAGA is, right? because the independents are already lost to Trump. They're already gone. They meant it. They were anti-warian. You said you were anti-warian, you said your red line was ground troops. Yeah, I'm looking forward finding out. Electrifying on Twitch says, send Doge to the Middle East to save us some money.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Isn't that hilarious? Yeah. Where's Doge? Brandi Yang Kempkin says, I think the military would rather you think that it was a mechanical problem than a failure militarily. Absolutely, that's why I don't fully believe them. Magic Breakfast Spirit says, I can't believe you're about to have MTG. I'm excited and nervous.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You're insane, Jenk. I love you. Yeah, why not? Let's have some fun. Back on TYT, Jank, John, I'm Usa 36, and Dave Beckman. Thanks for joining guys. They hit the join button below. We really appreciate it. TYT.com slash join. And the two minute ad breaks that we have, you actually get content during those breaks. If you're watching in the members feed on tyt.com. If you're a YouTube member, you can connect your account. It's free. You already paid. So tyt.com slash connect. Speaking of money, let me save you some money. your service to Noble mobile I did and I've been saving a tremendous amount of money. I'm paying in the 30s, max you could pay is 50 and they give you money back.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 that there's never in history been a more total asymmetric one side of the annihilation of the enemy than you are witnessing that is unfolding right now in Iran. The United States under President Trump's leadership has annihilated their navy, has annihilated their missile capabilities, has dealt devastating strikes to the IRGC and their command structure has taken out in collaboration and coordination with Israel, their nation's sinister leadership and command structure. Fantastic. Then let's come home. Let's go. I mean, Stephen Miller just told us we've annihilated everything in Iran. So why are we still there? Let's go home. Of course, Stephen Miller, after saying, that said we should stay longer. And now we're finding out ground troops are on the way. 5,000 ground troops are on the way. And it turns out also the president has absolutely no idea
Starting point is 00:32:11 how to end this war. You're gonna see the actual quotes and numbers here. So John, tell us all about that. Exactly, why don't we jump into that? Because the president publicly certainly seems very confident about the war effort. He doesn't acknowledge any of the issues that we've faced. He says, we are totally destroying the terrorist regime of Iran, militarily, economically, and otherwise. Yeah, if you read the failing New York Times, which has been failing for 10 years for Donald Trump's view of the, weird how that works. You would incorrectly think that we are not winning.
Starting point is 00:32:43 And there he's referencing the fact that they've mentioned the fact that U.S. service members have died, which is unacceptable, you're not supposed to do that. And they reported on the fact that we slaughtered 150 plus young girls. You're not supposed to do that. you're supposed to pretend that we never kill civilians. And so he says we have unparalleled firepower, unlimited ammunition, which is quite literally not true, and plenty of time. Watch what happens to these deranged scumbags today. We have plenty of time to do this. There's no rush to end it or anything. They've been killing innocent people all over the world for 47 years. And now I,
Starting point is 00:33:17 as the 47th president of the United States of America, am killing them. What a great honor it is to do so. And if you just took that one true social post and showed it to someone back in like 2012, their head would literally explode that this is how the world has decided to go. So that's his public facing persona. We got this, it's fine, there's no issues. And sometimes we find out from sources inside the administration that privately he's spinning a whole different sort of narrative. In this particular case, according to Barack Ravid, reporter for Axios, Trump is as confident about the war's outcome in private as he is in in public. But yeah, it kind of seems like he's maybe a little bit overconfident. And so here's
Starting point is 00:34:00 an example. Trump told G7 leaders in a virtual meeting on Wednesday that Iran is about to surrender, according to three officials from those countries. 24 hours later, Iran's new supreme leader issued his first public statement vowing to keep fighting. And so Trump has, yeah, publicly and apparently privately, he said straight from his is fine, and then ships get blown up, the regime's going to fall and it's not. And he doesn't seem to have paid any attention to the military intelligence reports from before the war that said this strategy was not going to work to accomplish his goals. So it begs the question, why is he so confident then, considering the way the war is going and what the military told him about the likely path
Starting point is 00:34:42 of the war? Well, it might be that it's just the problem he's always had, which is that he watches too much Fox News. And if you watch Fox News, here is the sort of coverage of this war that you're seen. Whether fake news, CNN likes it or not, Iran's rogue regime is now getting crushed. Now think about this. The new Supreme Leader is either unwilling or unable to appear in person for his first public address. I'd like proof of life here. Or he's just scared to death and he's hiding in a bunker. So forget the hand-wringing, constant complaining on the left because the objectives of this military campaign have always been very clear, very attainable, and now being met at an incredible pace. Unequivocal, unambiguous, unforgiving. Operation Epic Fury will continue until the job is done.
Starting point is 00:35:29 We don't want to have to hit civilian infrastructure because we don't have a beef with the Iranian people. We want the country to be able to rebuild easily when the war is over and take their country back. But the regime leftovers are launching indiscriminate attacks against Middle Eastern neighborhoods and banks, refineries, American consulates. Imagine they had a nuclear weapon. It's exactly why we're in this when we are. And importantly, you have to imagine that because they never have and there was no reason to believe they were going to. But yeah, I think North Korea news could learn a lot from watching Fox News. You can lay it on even thicker than they typically do. And so that's bad. The fact that they whitewashed the way the war is going. They utterly ignore the fact that we slaughtered all of those girls. Their lives don't matter. Remember that the next time they claim to be pro-life.
Starting point is 00:36:16 isn't just how they've covered the war so far, it's what they've been pushing for. And there I mean ground troops. Take a look. And the Iranians are still sitting on some uranium they squirled away after Operation Midnight Hammer. That's too dangerous to leave in their hands. They're highly motivated to nuke up as fast as they can because it's their only defense. That makes pickax mountain, Iran's fortified underground facility, a major target. It needs to be secured, and that could require special forces at a later date. We killed their commander. We're killing a lot more, and the Israelis' intelligence on the ground
Starting point is 00:36:52 is unbelievable. Hopefully that leads to grabbing that uranium out of some of those destroyed sites. Maybe that'll be something that'll be announced shortly. I just wonder how soon we decide to grab that Karg Island, where 90% of all the Iranian oil is shipped. We have that. You want the ultimate leverage. We have it. Yeah, I mean, I just think that that's something president's talked about since the 80s. Everyone knows it and that would really get their attention. Oh, I didn't know that you could find it on a map. I mean, obviously then we should put Marines in harm's way, clearly.
Starting point is 00:37:30 And, Jank, I don't know, I don't get the bragging. Like, hey, maybe we killed the new Ayatollah. Who cares? There's any number of Ayatollahs. They can put the robes in the hat on whoever they want. Why are you bragging so much? And the fact that like, oh no, we got to stop from nuking. That's what you said before this attack.
Starting point is 00:37:47 That's what you said before the last attack. When will it end? But if you're, you know, you're a 92 year old average Fox viewer, you have seen every one of those black and white videos of a bomb coming down and hitting a truck. You've seen that 30,000 times on loop. And so you've been convinced that all of this is super easy, barely an inconvenience. And so, but now as you've been. warning about they're pushing harder every day to send troops into Iran.
Starting point is 00:38:17 So we talked about how they're going to come up with excuses to put in ground troops. So here they are, Karg Island. That's a new one. Oh, you heard him say the uranium. There's loose uranium. I wonder if anyone warn you guys about this. Let's go to B6 here and see what we said on the show yesterday. So there are layers of regime destruction and collapse that Israel has planned. But you can't do even the first layer without ground troops. Because Iran, the Revolutionary Guard guys, has a giant infrastructure throughout the entire country like we do with our military and our police. So Israel knows all of this. That's why they need to reel you in, little bit by a little bit. Oh, we're doing it because nukes. Oh, they're going to kill you with the
Starting point is 00:39:10 weapons of mass destruction. The same exact horse crap that they fed the American people through the collaborators in the American media about the Iraq war. And now they're connecting the the nukes that don't exist at all with the, oh, there's the loose uranium. We got to go collect the loose uranium. Well, what can we do? We need ground troops. Oh, and voila. ground troops appear. So right before the show started, Wall Street Journal and Axios reporting, 5,000 Marines and sailors headed there for ground, and they are ground troops. They're meant to go on the ground. They're on their way. A couple of F-35s are going, a couple of warships are going. So the war's going so spectacularly well that, like Stephen Miller told you in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:40:00 That's why we have to send in warships we didn't expect F-35s we didn't expect in 5,000. ground troops. So this is just like Iran, this is Iraq. By the way, also like Vietnam. Oh, just it's a small, limited contingent of forces. Oh my God, they got killed. No one could have seen that coming. We're going to have to send in more to avenge them. And then we're going to have to send in more to avenge them. Yes, John? Stephen Miller can't wait for some of these Marines to be killed. I was listening earlier this week to Lindsay Graham saying that because Beirut was bombed, then that's why we should join the Israeli invasion of Lebanon to get revenge. They're still, they're still fetishizing the death of Marines from like 30 plus years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:46 If the Marines are killed here, which if they're deployed, they will, they will 100% beat the war drums. I think we sat there for the state of the union, Jank. They were already trying to get people all fired up. Look at all these soldiers and all these medals we're pinning on them. They want to get back into that post invasion of Iraq. Just everybody bow down. Don't question anything, as long as a soldier's on screen. And so I feel like we are probably less than a week away from that once these soldiers start getting killed. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And then they keep saying these dumb things like Jesse Waters just did. And then indiscriminate attacks against things like American consulates. We invaded them. We attacked them. What did you think they were going to do? That's when you attack a country, they attack you back. That's the least indiscriminate thing I've ever heard. So I don't know what the hell he's talking.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And that's the thing, though. That's what Trump really expected. So I'm going to get back to some of their dumb talking points in a second. But Trump really thought, and you could tell with his private meeting with the G7, that he was like, it's going to be easy. And he's still, he's watching Fox News. All of his advisors work for Israel. And they're all telling him, oh, keep going, sir.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's so easy, you know, put more guys into the meat grinder, okay? Well, it's super easy, and he believes it like a moron. And he's like, you know, the new guy's a lightweight, you know, Kamani Jr. And I don't find him acceptable. Who cares if you find him acceptable? These advisors have convinced the moron that the Iranians will ask him who their new leaders should be. Can you imagine anything dumber in the world?
Starting point is 00:42:28 They're dug in. more than a million troops in Iran, four times the size of Iraq. They're not going anywhere. This regime is totally embedded. It's like removing the entire U.S. military and all the U.S. police. How hard would that be? Well, it's going to be hard anywhere. And look at what the Vietnamese did to us with guerrilla warfare.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Well, look at what the Afghans did to us. They had nothing. They had nothing. And we couldn't come close to meeting them. It's not because we can't quote unquote win. It's not that we can't destroy a whole bunch of things. It's not like they're gonna take Albuquerque, right? But the one thing we can't do is win in the way that Israel wants, which is go in there,
Starting point is 00:43:12 kill their entire military and their entire police force and take over the government, put in Israel's puppet. That's cuckoo for cocoa puffs. It's gonna be a slaughterhouse. So now they say, okay, but hey, wait a minute, These guys are cowards, it'll be no problem at all. They're sitting there in their bunker. First of all, where are they supposed to be? Like when you hit him in their own palace, I thought they were incredibly dumb to stay in their
Starting point is 00:43:41 own palace, and you killed the Ayatollah and 49 top members of the regime, you said, they're so stupid. They just sat there out in the open, ha ha, now when, if they're in a bunker, they're like, don't you cowards, can't go in the bunker. So where are they supposed to go, outer space? Right? So meanwhile though, oh, are they cowards? Because look at this amazing video.
Starting point is 00:44:03 This is not the Ayatollah, but the Iranian president in the streets of Tehran, B5, watch this. And that's him right there. Just marching through the streets of Tehran, no security, everybody's there. Basically they're saying, what are you gonna do, bro? Like the foreign minister said, we welcome you. We're looking forward to you coming. Come on in. Because once we go on the ground, we're screwed.
Starting point is 00:44:33 So now, last thing here, the Iranians are cowards, right? This is going to be easy. Now I'm going to show you a different video from Iran. So you're not seeing this on mainstream media, but that's why we're showing it to you here. Because if you saw it, you see the bombs going off in the front, American and Israeli bombs. You see this giant parade, they're walking towards the bombs. They don't care. They're saying, we welcome you.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Come on and find out. This is going to be easy. Yeah. They're about to surrender. That's what Trump told the G7 leaders. They must have walked out of the meeting going, oh my God, we're totally screwed. This guy has no idea what he's doing. When we ask him, what's to go to war?
Starting point is 00:45:23 He says, he doesn't know. We ask him about how badly it's going and he says they're about to surrender and that he's going to pick their leader. John, he is literally delusional. It's not hyperbolic, it's not symbolic, it's not partisanship. No, the president is delusional, has no idea what's going on on the ground. Yeah, I agree. You know, I'm sure you remember was it Baghdad Bob? Now he's on our side.
Starting point is 00:45:51 He's in charge of the war effort, actually. It's utterly insane. I'll end, because I know we don't have time. I feel terrible for the Iranian people, who many of whom probably were justifiably hopeful that somehow Trump and Netanyahu bombing Iran would help them. I didn't think that it would, but I hoped, you know, because I do want them to be free. Trump doesn't care and Netanyahu wants them to be ruled by a despot who does the will of right wing politicians in Israel or whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:21 But like, but I do feel terrible for them, but I also understand that when you're you start indiscriminately killing a civilian population, some of them will turn back towards the regime at that point. They're not going to look fondly upon the people who not only, again, slaughter their young girls, but refuse to actually own up to it, let alone apologize. I mean, we're never getting that out of Heg-Seth, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, or anything. So what would you think of that administration? Maybe you'd join a parade and march against them at that point. Anyway, that's it for me, Jenk, if you have any other comments? Yeah, no, it's the most obvious thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And we're getting messages from Iranian expats all across the world because this is a global show. And what they're saying is, yeah, whatever support was left for replacing the regime is kind of evaporated. Because once you start dropping bombs on Iranian children's heads, of course they're going to rally around the flag. And they've rallied around the flag. So now they're dug in for war. And remember guys, it's not just America. America is the smaller issue for the Iranians. They would have to surrender to Israel after all that Israel has done to them and to the region.
Starting point is 00:47:34 The Iranians are never going to surrender to Israel. So get that through your thick heads if you're still one of these guys who believes that Trump is a demigod and he's got all this planned out and he's got four dimensional chess coming from him. from him, four dimensional chess. He couldn't play normal checkers. He's a moron and he's delusional and we're, this is guys, we're gonna run out of missiles. We're gonna run out of defensive missiles.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Then what are we gonna do? Then you're gonna put in ground troops but withdraw your ships? No, this is an epic, epic disaster and it's only gonna get worse. All right, we gotta take a break here. We'll come right back. Back on TOT, Rose Orozco wrote in on Superchat, Viva, Revolution de los young Turks. Thank you for all your hard work.
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Starting point is 00:49:32 And I hope he turns around on that. Hakeem Jeffries is a verifiable loser, totally pathetic and not at all on our side. And APAC is a foreign lobby and the worst one in the world. And of course they should register. Neil Whittington says keep on, keep it on, TYT. Appreciate you. YouTube members, the accountants, I don't know, $35 billion in two weeks. Medicare for all was going to cost $32 billion.
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Starting point is 00:51:21 Iran, actually, a little bit more in the war. Let's jump into it. The only thing prohibiting transit in the streets right now is Iran shooting at shipping. It is open for transit should Iran not do that. I'm not an astronaut. I don't need an astronaut. Audiences have spoken. Project Hail Mary is an awe-inspiring masterpiece.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So I met an alien. If you've fallen out of love with going to the movies, this one will bring you back. Ryan Gosling in the first must-see movie of 2026. Project Hail Mary, only theaters March 20th. So it's totally open for transit. I mean, Iran will sink the ship. But if Iran chooses not to sink the ships, then it would be open. Yeah, I suppose they would, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:52:19 But that's not what they're choosing to do because we chose to declare war on them, and they have chosen to fight back. So what you're going to see here is in order to try to defeat the Iranians, which we're not doing at all, we're going to accidentally help the Russians. Oops, John tell us all about it. Yeah, I will. I love that clip. I think it's amazing. I think that it should immediately transition to that old S&L deep thoughts with Jack Handy coming out of that.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Kids, don't drink too much because over the decades, it can do some damage to your brain, it turns out. So in any event, Iran is still threatening the straight-of-form moves. They are still firing at ships. And because of that, the administration is taking some actions to try to limit the increase in the price of oil. So the US had previously been pressuring India to cut back on purchasing Russian oil, which I'm actually surprised to find out. But it's good news.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Last week, though, it gave India a temporary waiver to buy more. So they freed it up so that more of that Russian oil would help to flood the market thereby taking down Indian demand for other sources of oil. Yesterday it announced that the US would be issuing a 30-day waiver for all countries to buy oil from Russian ships that were already at sea. And they think there they've threaded the needle where hypothetically this will help bring down the cost of gas but won't put a bunch more money into Russian hands, they say, because it doesn't apply to oil that hasn't already been shipped out of the country. And supposedly they derive a lot of the money through taxation at the point of extraction.
Starting point is 00:53:55 So again, I'm surprised that they would do that. I don't know how much difference it's going to make. And also, that only works for so long. If the war continues, if the problems with the Strait of Hormuz continue, you're going to need to do more when it comes to Russian oil. And so I'm worried that this is only going to be a temporary change. Apparently there are 124 million barrels of Russian origin oil already at sea. across 30 locations as of March 12th. That's about five to six days of supply. And overall, we know that it's now been multiple days that the Brent Oil prices, the global benchmark that we use are above $100 per barrel. And so that's the thing. They're doing these actions, Jenk, to temporarily increase the supply of oil. But as many people have noted, that's not the
Starting point is 00:54:47 supply of gasoline at the point of consumption, all of that stuff still needs to be refined. Literally months are going to go by before that actually has any real effect on the markets, especially if maybe it like reassures people internationally right now, but if ships continue to blow up in the Strait of Hormuz, if the war continues to drag on, then why would people continue to be confident? And it is going to take a lot of time for that oil to actually have an effect in terms of gasoline at the point that they're consumed. So it really feels like a very small amount of action. What do you think? Yeah, so I need to give you guys context here. So we we released over 170 million barrels from our strategic reserves. And then 32 other countries
Starting point is 00:55:32 released 400 million barrels from their strategic reserves. And that broke a record, most amount released. And then of course, when you release that you release that much more supply, then obviously prices should come down because of supply in demand. They didn't, they continued to rise. The reason they continue to rise is because 20% of the oil goes through the Strait of Hormuz for the whole world. So all of those strategic reserves weren't enough to counteract the damage done straight
Starting point is 00:56:05 of Hormuz. Now they do a deal with the Russians, we've got 124 million barrels of oil coming in on top. Didn't dent prices, prices continued to go up. We said that oil will get to $100 per barrel and Trump and his goons were like, oh, ridiculous, that won't happen, everything will be super easy. I mean, if the Iranians don't fight back, and you could go through the straight-of-hormoos if they weren't bombing you. Are they bombing?
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, they're bombing. Okay, so now the Iranians say, you like $100 per barrel? We're gonna try to get it to $200 a barrel. Okay, so that would lead to about $10, $12 per gallon here in America. Do you know what kind of cataclysm that would be? Like nobody would be able to afford the gas to go to work. I mean, and by the way, guys, oil isn't just about gas, and it isn't just about cars, which is already bad enough. But it also goes into all the plastic and all the manufacturing that we do.
Starting point is 00:57:06 So your prices for everything are going to skyrocket and they're already skyrocketing. And Trump said to the G7 guys, ah, you'll be able to go through the straight of Hormuz, no problem. Yeah, we got this fixed already. Right after he said that two more ships got hit. We don't have anything fixed. We're sending in ground troops. We're sending in new warships. We're sending in new F-35s because we can't stop them from bombing the ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So, John, this is going to get worse and worse as we go. and I'll lay out a marker here, which is this weekend. If somehow we can get it under control this weekend and then they open it back up, like through warships and they land the ground troops and somehow they knock out the missiles and the drones that are coming from land. And if you remember on the show, I don't know if you were on it, John, but I said, look, don't put our warships in this trade of Hormuz. Look at how easy it is to hit the ships.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And the Iranians are like, come a little further, come a little further, right? And we're bringing our ships right to them. Like, don't. So if this weekend, instead the Iranians hit a couple more ships, and then we can't straighten it out at all, by the time the market's open on Monday, it'll be an epic disaster. And maybe one we haven't seen before. Yeah, we'll be absolutely, absolutely screwed. And remember, like when they said they were taking all that oil out of our strategic reserve, draining over 40% of our entire reserve, they said it would take 120 days to deliver those barrels.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So that is not a solution to the problem right now. It's just, it's just not. There is an easy solution. Get out. The best time to have gotten out of this war would be before you started it. The second best time is now, you know, that old saying? It would be great for you to just end it. And you can do it because nobody wants us to be in there. You don't have any well articulated
Starting point is 00:59:09 reasons for us to be there. And even if you could articulate them, you're not going to be able to accomplish them. So we should get out right now. And in the absence of that, like just Trump and Pahegsa taking turns telling the ships it's safe to go through, that's not going to increase morale. But I do have an idea. You might recall in Game of Thrones, Kingslandings being attacked, and Tyrion rides out to show the soldier. that they're that they're going to be okay. I think that Trump and Pete Hegseth should go on those cargo ships, show that they're confident that it is safe.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I think that would actually really help with morale. Yeah. For now, though, what's that? As I said earlier in the week, Trump should go on at the front of those ships and like, you know, Leonardo DiCaprio and the Titanic go, I'm king of the world, which is what he's always wanted to be. So have added, Hoss, is your big opportunity. Now, in the meantime, it isn't just the crews and captains of those ships whose morale is down.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's the American public who's really worried about prices going up. But that said, as bad as Trump and Pete Hegsathar, in terms of messaging around this war, Republican senators are just as bad. And there have been a bunch that have come out to tell people, just suck it up, pay more for everything, when we were already in an affordability crisis. And here is a great example of Jim Jordan. As we want Iran not to have nuclear capability and we want this thing resolved as soon as possible. But I think the American people, American people have common sense and they understand to stop
Starting point is 01:00:36 this regime that for 47 years has killed Americans, killed Israelis, killed others, and killed a number of their own people to stop them from getting a nuclear weapon is a worthwhile objective. And President Trump is committed to achieving that goal. And if that means prices go up for a short time, I think. Americans understand we can we can we can we can we can live with that. So first of all, the American people have been told by Donald Trump for six months now that we already destroyed their capability of having a nuke. So no, I don't think that they think it's a worthwhile goal to go in there and and you'll be telling them six months from now that we need to
Starting point is 01:01:12 go back. They don't trust you and they shouldn't and they were very clear that they don't want wars. Trump campaigned on that. So either he's massively changed his mind or he was lying when he did it. But no, I don't think the American people should have to sacrifice this literally at all. First of all, this is so important, the Israeli military is very capable. We've given them hundreds of billions of dollars. They can fight the war. Or if this is such an important war that they desperately want to have, Trump's rich. He can pay for it. Elon Musk, get all your tech pros together that all think that this constant warfare is such a great idea. Have the Epstein class fund this war if it's so important for
Starting point is 01:01:52 for them either in terms of the stated goals or distracting from the Epstein Files investigation. The American people already said they don't want it, they should not be expected to pay for it. Yeah, you know it's lame when they have to go back 47 years to find something that Iran did to us. So this has nothing to do with us, it has everything new with Israel. They want to replace the regime with a puppet leader for Israel so that no one objects when Israel takes more Palestinian territory, Lebanese territory, Syrian territory, and becomes, as Netanyahu yesterday explained in Hebrew to the Israelis, after this war, we're going to be a regional superpower and a global superpower. That's what this is about, and John is exactly right.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Then, brother, why don't you send in your ground troops? If ground troops are necessary, why would we send in Americans? I hear the IDF is legendary. Have at it, Haas. Tehran is waiting. All right, we gotta go coming up next. Thank you, John. Everybody check out Damage Report. One o'clock Eastern every day.
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Starting point is 01:09:42 Now joining me on the young Turks, Jank Ugar obviously here, hosting Nina Turner and Marjor Taylor Green. Great to have you both. So of course, Nina is a former Ohio State Senator and Marjorie is of course a former U.S. Congresswoman. So guys, just first to lay out for everyone here, the point of this panel is not to agree, it's not to disagree, it's just a talk, it's to have an adult grown-up conversation and find out what we all think.
Starting point is 01:10:11 So we're going to start with the issue of Iran. Start it real simple. New York Times says that about 21% of the country was in favor of this war before we started. That is a very, very low number. Representative Green, let me start with you. Should we have gone into this war? Absolutely not. And I'm a three-time Trump voter.
Starting point is 01:10:37 I also campaigned with the president for the past six years. And his 2020 campaign, also in the 2024 campaign. And this was something that we promised to America over and over again on rally stages across the country was no more foreign wars, no more regime changed, and that we would put America first. And I'm very anti-war. I'm largely against it. And I know many of the people that voted for President Trump are against it as well. And I'll just say this, Jank, we have not seen a good case laid out of why we're at war. with Iran and I think Americans overwhelmingly are against it and they really are more
Starting point is 01:11:17 interested in seeing a larger focus on domestic issues and it's just a shame that as we're going going into spring break and summer families are once again seeing gas prices rise the cost of diesel rise farmers are being hurt by fertilizer costs rising because 30% of the world's fertilizer goes through the straight So this is absolutely not what we voted for. And I'm very much against it. Senator Turner, should we have gone a war? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I mean, the Congresswoman and I are in total agreement. The impact of this nationally and also internationally, the whole notion of what affects one directly, affects us all indirectly. It was irresponsible. The president certainly did not get authorization from Congress. It's really a shame that we have far too many Congress members, especially of the GOP.
Starting point is 01:12:10 who have abdicated their responsibility to be a co-equal branch of government. And when it comes to matters of war, something that should be, should really never happen, but rare if it has to happen, just the cavalier nature by which the president did this. And, you know, standing up before Americans and saying to them, you know, we're going to lose, we're going to lose some people as if the, and the working class, it will be the sons and daughters of working class people in this country who will bear the overwhelming brunt of this war. And as we pivot into what is happening in the nation of Iran, to even look at the innocent civilians there that are impacted, the pollution to their air, to their water, to their food. And for us to think that there will not be consequences and repercussions, the bombing of
Starting point is 01:12:58 that school that killed those little girls. I mean, you cannot war your way to peace. And the number one fact pattern that I think the American people understand very clearly is that there was no imminent threat from this nation at the time that the president took action without Congress. It goes without saying that the regime is abusive, no doubt. You're not going to get any argument with that. But you don't war your way to peace in terms of trying to help the people of that nation. So the president was absolutely wrong, and the Congress needs to hold him accountable. Okay, so so far we've got Senator Nina Turner, co-chair Bernie Sanders presidential campaign, Marjorie Taylor Green, you know, as America first as it gets, agreeing, we should not
Starting point is 01:13:45 have gone to war. But there's a lot more on the war that I want to talk to you guys about. Right now, the administration is saying that it's easy. In fact, Trump talked to G7 leaders, and he said, according to Axios, Trump told G7 leaders in a virtual meeting Wednesday that Iran is about to surrender, according to three officials from G7 countries, briefed on the Contents of the call 24 hours later, and Ron's new supreme leader issued his first public statement vowing to keep fighting. Now let me show you a clip of Stephen Miller telling the American people through Fox News, don't worry, we're winning easily.
Starting point is 01:14:23 So let's watch that. Tell us about the progress of Operation Epic Fury. Well, I think it's important for your viewers, Jesse and the American people to know that there's never in history been a more. total asymmetric one side of the annihilation of the enemy, then you are witnessing that is unfolding right now in Iran. Marjorie, are we winning? I honestly don't know if we're winning or losing, but the president told us that this would be a four-day. He's calling it an excursion. It's turning into weeks.
Starting point is 01:15:01 We're losing our great men and women in the military. 13 have been killed now. supportive of our military and certainly praying for them and their families who I'm sure are so concerned. Now we're seeing an escalation. I watched Secretary Hedcess press conference this morning and he talked about there would be no mission creep. And then it was announced later on after that that we're sending thousands of Marines to the Middle East it seems to be to the straight, which sounds like boots on the ground. So this is certainly an escalation and you don't escalate when you're going to you're winning. You certainly don't need to escalate when you're winning. It's very sad and I completely agree with the senator that the loss of life is a true tragedy. The innocent people that are being
Starting point is 01:15:51 killed in Iran that are being affected by their air, the quality of their air after the oil refineries were hit, but also the children that were bombed in the little girls school. You know, here in America, our children are going to school and they're not being bombed. And none of this actually should be happening, but it doesn't seem that we're winning. The war is ongoing and it seems to be more of an escalation. And I just want to finish with this. I'll wrap real quick. This isn't a war for America.
Starting point is 01:16:23 This is a war for Israel. And this was an unprovoked war. President Trump told us back in the summer that they had completely wiped out. Iran's nuclear capabilities and he chastised anyone in the media that dear questioned him on that. And so no, I don't think we're winning. I think we're escalating. And I have great concern of where it's going. Yeah, so as I said earlier on the Young Turks, it's not like they're about to take Albuquerque, but that doesn't mean that we're going to quote unquote, when? Did we win in Afghanistan? Did we win in Vietnam and Iraq, etc. But I want to back up what Representative
Starting point is 01:17:01 Green was saying there before I get to you, Nina. I'm gonna show you Hexas clip in a second that she was alluding to, but just breaking news before we started the show, 5,000 ground troops are headed to the Gulf right now, Marines and sailors, and more F-35s and more warships are also headed there. Not exactly what you do when you're wrapping up a war that you're in the middle of winning, and here's the clownish statement that Hegseth made this morning. The only thing prohibiting transit in the streets right now is Iran shooting at shipping. It is open for transit, should Iran not do that.
Starting point is 01:17:41 It's open for transit if Iran stops fighting. So Nina, what's your sense? Are they gonna stop fighting? Are we winning? Do we have this thing almost wrapped up? Are they about to surrender? No, absolutely not. I mean, you cannot expect a sovereign nation, whether we agree with the brutality of their leadership
Starting point is 01:18:01 to just roll over for the United States of America. And that's a point that these folks are not getting. And what enrages me even more is just the cavalier nation, the cavalier attitude that they have about sending other people's children and loved ones into war. It's as if they think they play in a video game. All Americans should be outraged by that. You cannot war your way to peace.
Starting point is 01:18:29 We are at over $11 billion right now in of taxpayers' dollars on this, but meanwhile on the home front, Every time we try to fight for something like universal health care, they say, how are you going to pay for it? Canceling student debt, how are you going to pay for it? You know, the things that would enhance domestic tranquility, those of us who believe in those things are always asked how we're going to pay for it. But when it comes time to go to war, rarely is that question asked by the majority of the members of Congress and also presidents. This is not the only president that has tried to that not just tried, but you know, went around Congress. He's not the only one.
Starting point is 01:19:08 But until the American people rise up and say, we are not going to take this, you are not going to sacrifice. We are sacrificing the sons and daughters for no reason. And a man with the congresswoman said about this is not our war. This is something that the right wing government of Israel has won it for a very long time. And unfortunately, they have a president in President Donald Trump that is willing to give it to them and sacrifice Americans. This does not seem like America first to me. Yeah, so I'm going to get back to America first, and I'm going to get back to the cost of the war. But Nina, let me stay with you.
Starting point is 01:19:46 So the question is open as to why we went in this war in the first place. First, now the Iranian state media is starting to troll us. And so they're saying that it was because of the Epstein files. and they put together this Lego thing. It feels like it's something that would have come out of Trump's account in a different time. But here they are trolling us. Okay, so we shouldn't even be in this position to have this avenue.
Starting point is 01:20:38 But there's some who theorize that it's to distract from the Epstein files, Lina, some who say it's mainly for Israel. And the Trump administration insists, no, there are American objectives here, although They don't quite clarify what they are. So why do you think we actually went into this war? They can't clarify it because at the time that the president took this action, there's no proof or evidence that the administration is given that they were an imminent threat, that Iran was an imminent threat at the time.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Certainly it could be a distraction. I would hate to think that they would go this far to distract from the Epstein files. I think they went to that they did this, number one, for Israel, and then number two for the oil. If we look at the types of places that the president has raised up on without the authority of Congress, even from, you know, kidnapping a sovereign nation's leader, you know, in Venezuela. We look at what they did in Nigeria. The types of places that he has put his put muscle to, all you got to do is look at their natural resources. And when it comes to the Epstein files, certainly we have the Congresswoman here who showed immense courage along with her colleagues, Congressman Rokana.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Congressman Massey, Congresswoman Summer Lee, certainly a show courage at the time to say, we are going to stand with the survivors of the Epstein files and push back on this administration. So, yeah, this could be a distraction. And if he is willing to make the American people sacrifice this much for distraction on the Epstein files, we got a whole lot of big, we have bigger problems. So Representative Green, they said it was to annihilate their nukes, but President Trump told us their nuclear facilities were already annihilated. And they said that it wasn't for regime change, but now they're sending in ground troops.
Starting point is 01:22:28 And plus, we killed 49 of their top regime leaders. So why do you think we actually went to war? You know, as long as I can remember, and I'm sure it's the same for the two of you as well. We have been told on television mainly by B.B. Netanyahu that Iran is on the verge at any time within weeks or months away from having a nuclear weapon. And once they get a nuclear weapon, they are going to kill all of us. They're going to bomb Israel and they're going to bomb America. Then we see the recordings played over and over again, death to America, death to Israel.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And of course, that's something that we as Americans completely reject and never want to be victim of some foreign nation that chants chance to America or death to Israel. But I also want to say that I feel like what we've gotten from BB Netanyahu is nothing but propaganda, and we've gotten it for decades. And the proof is the lives that we've lived and the history that we've seen. We have not seen Iran develop a nuclear weapon. We have not seen Iran nuke Israel or nuke America. As a matter of fact, we've seen the opposite. We've seen Israel demand a war and demand America go to war. with Iran and now we have seen it happen. And I fought very hard on the Epstein files because I don't
Starting point is 01:23:53 think any woman should ever be a victim in that way, especially teenage, young teenage girls or young men for that matter. I don't think anyone should be a victim of rich, powerful men. And I don't think our government should hide it and protect these rich, powerful men. So I fully understand them trolling our country with the Epstein class. But it's the Epstein class. but it's the Epstein class that is a true issue. And when it comes to the reasons for this Israel's war on Iran and Americans, America's complacency and willingness to go along with it, especially with President Trump and this administration,
Starting point is 01:24:30 I think we can't ignore the religious nature to this. This is something that's been talked about a lot all over the Internet. I'm a Christian. I believe fully in the Bible and Jesus is my Savior. but I don't think the way to go to heaven is to see the third temple rebuilt. For me, it's my full faith in Jesus' work on the cross, and he said it's finished. But for many Christian Zionists, and many of them serve in the administration, that's what they think has to happen. Israel certainly wants to build the third temple.
Starting point is 01:25:04 This is their religious objective. And they have held Iran, the Persian people, as their enemy for thousands of years, calling them. Amalek and wanting to wipe them out. And so I fully reject if that is the reason, some of the reasons behind the scenes that this war is being raged. I as an American Christian fully reject it. And I don't think that innocent people should be murdered simply for their blood or their heritage or who they are. I think America needs to stand on our own two feet and stop fighting Israel's wars stop funding the genocide that they have waged on Gaza and they're now waging on Lebanon. And I think that American Christians need to return to the Bible and understand that our faith
Starting point is 01:25:55 and our salvation relies on Jesus' work, not on the rebuilding of some third temple. So let me say with you, Representative Green, for a couple of quick questions. So like we just said, it looks like there's 5,000 American troops headed to Iran. Shouldn't that be Israeli troops? Yes, absolutely. American troops should not be going to this war in Iran. As a matter of fact, this war shouldn't even be taking place. And the 13 military members who have been tragically killed and the hundreds of other American military members that have been injured, none of them should have been killed or injured.
Starting point is 01:26:37 As a matter of fact, our military should be strictly focused on our homeland. That's the purpose of our military is defending the United States if we are invaded by some foreign nature, foreign nation. But no, Israel, if this is the war they want to wage on Iran, let them send their sons and daughters. And if we have American politicians like Lindsey Graham or Randy Fine or any of these other sick and disgusting human beings that are demanding the deaths of foreign people and their children, children, then they should go to the front lines and they should fight this war themselves. But I don't believe this is America's war and I don't believe it's our place. So Nina, let me come back to you for a sec there because so right now Israel is invading Lebanon as we speak.
Starting point is 01:27:22 They use the Iran war's cover to take more land in Lebanon. They've displaced nearly a million people there, killed over 600 civilians, including over 100 children. So they're using their ground troops to acquire more land. Do you agree with Marjorie Taylor Green that the 5,000 ground troops being sent around should not be Americans, should be Israelis if they want this war? Yeah, absolutely. And what we're seeing is a total scourge on the Middle East by the right-wing government of Israel. All of these nations are sovereign. I mean, as Americans, we would not stand for another nation to just boldly declare. We're coming in because we don't like what President Donald J. Trump has been doing.
Starting point is 01:28:07 And so we're going to come in and take over your country. That would be laughable. Even I would find that laughable. And despite the fact that I do not agree with 99.9% of what this president is doing. But what I do recognize as an American is that we are a sovereign nation. And so no other nation has the right to come in to try to take our land, to come in and try to tell us what to do in that manner. At the same point, we should have the same level of respect for other sovereign nations instead of utilizing the mantra that might make right. That's just like a bully living on your street who just decides, you know what?
Starting point is 01:28:46 I want your house now. So I'm going to come in and plow it down because I have the nuclear weapons. I have the biggest guns. I have the biggest military. And I don't, I don't like you on this street. So I'm just going to come in and take over. No one would stand for that. At the same time, the love that we should have, because just as the Congresswoman, I am a Christian woman to hail from the black liberation side of the struggle of what it means to love your neighbor, what it means to do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Starting point is 01:29:18 And also what it means to be able to use power in a way that doesn't maim, doesn't inflict, doesn't kill, but use power to lift. War should always be a last resort, a last resort, not the first resort. And that is why the cavalier careless, callous attitude of this administration, because they're playing with other people's children's lives and not their own is the reason why they just doing this. And so I'm glad that most of the American people, they see what is happening right now, and they do not like it. Now we need a Congress that has as much courage and intestinal fortitude or ovarian audacity as the American people who are speaking up and speaking out against this war, regardless of political ideology. So absolutely not. It should not be our troops. And you know what, Jake,
Starting point is 01:30:12 another thing, I care just as much about the people of Iran too, because their blood should not be shed either for this. They're all civilians, yes. And I mean, I know you had brought up Lebanon, but all innocent people who are now being pushed into these levels of conflict because a bunch of men, for the most part, I mean, there's some Warhawk women too, are having a measuring contest that has repercussions and consequences, not just for those of us alive today, but for generations to come. Yeah, Israelis, Lebanese, Palestinians, Iranians, they're all human beings. And we want to make sure they're all safe and nobody gets hurt. And so populist left, populist right agreeing here, but Christian left, Christian right also agreeing. So, okay, last couple of questions here, and then we'll go on to some topics we don't necessarily agree on. So Representative Green, Stephen Miller was on TV again.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I'm going to show you a quick clip. It feels like he's redefining America first, but you would know better than anyone. So let's play the clip and then ask you about it. I don't think that people understand the Trump doctrine is not isolationism. Maybe you can help set them straight because I'm not too effective, I guess. The president has made clear that he believes America's awesome military might should be used to protect and defend America's interests. America first means America will be the greatest, most unquestioned, unmatched power in the world. I'm green, is that what America First means?
Starting point is 01:31:56 No, that's not my understanding of America First, and that's not how we campaign for America First. America First means putting Americans first. That's the American people, and the hard-earned tax dollars that they pay into the government should be used for the American people, and that hasn't happened for a long time. Take a look at what's happening in Congress. Now, I'm a conservative. I have a very strong conservative voting record, and I have voted against. most of the spending bills that came to the floor during my time in Congress. But right now, they're not even funding Homeland Security. I have a major issue with that.
Starting point is 01:32:34 I believe in strong borders. But Republicans can't even fund Homeland. They're not paying Border Patrol. They're not paying ICE agents. They're not paying TSA workers that are having to work to keep our airplanes safe and the security in the airports. And so while they're not funding Homeland Security, which is America first, The same time, they're spending one to two billion dollars a day to bomb and murder people in Iran and wage a war that none of us voted for.
Starting point is 01:33:02 As a matter of fact, we've voted against. And then at the same time, this Congress, supposedly America First Congress, is going to be voting soon on a war supplemental for Iran that will be $50 billion or more. You know what that is, Jank? Nina, that is called America Last. And I take major issue with it. In my district, my former district here in Georgia's 14th district, many people are struggling. They can't afford health insurance. Many people are struggling.
Starting point is 01:33:30 They're working two to three jobs to put food on the table for their children. After the massive inflation we saw under the Biden administration, especially in 2022, when the Russia-Ukraine war started. You see, what war does is it rises inflation all over the world because all of us are connected and we are completely affected. These wars not only costs our money, our taxpayer dollars and costs our military lives and our military supplies,
Starting point is 01:33:58 they also cost us when we go grocery shopping. They cost us when we go to the gas pump, and they cost us more and more, and we're the American people that pay for it all. I completely agree with Stephen Miller. You don't get the campaign on America first being one way, or MAGA being Make America Great Again for Americans, and then when you get in power to change it
Starting point is 01:34:18 into something else and waging war all over the world. And I appreciate Nina bringing up Venezuela. That was another one where they went in and basically kidnapped Venezuela's leader. And now we see war on Iran. And what is next? No, no, Stephen Miller's wrong. This is America last.
Starting point is 01:34:36 America first is when we put American citizens first and foremost. All right, so that one was very clear. Populist left, populist right, definitely agrees on this issue. No war, and let's get out. out and let's serve Americans. So now let's move to an issue where we might have some disagreement. Let's talk about the SAVE Act. So this is an act that would require voter ID.
Starting point is 01:34:59 You'd have to have either a passport or a birth certificate. It would get rid of a lot of mail-in voting. And then there are some other provisions in there that, well, again, we might have disagreement over. So Representative Green, what do you think about the Save America Act? I'm a big believer in secure elections, and I think that's important for all Americans, Republicans and Democrats. I am a big believer in ID, voter ID. Here we live in a country where you have to show an ID to buy cigarettes or nicotine products.
Starting point is 01:35:32 You have to show an ID to get a to go. You have to show your birth certificate to get a driver's license. You have to show an ID to buy alcohol. You have to show an ID to do many things in this country. You even have to show an ID to get welfare. I think it's incredibly important that American citizens only vote in our American elections. And I think it's incredibly important for people to be able to prove that they're an American citizen and that they have the right to vote. So I'm a big supporter in the Save America Act, except I'm a big critic of the Republicans in the Senate who can't get their act together because of the filibuster.
Starting point is 01:36:10 So yes, I believe in election integrity. I believe in voter ID and I think that's something that should be passed. Senator Turner, do you think that's wrong? I mean, I certainly believe in transparency and making sure that we protect our elections. I mean, in 2014, Jink, you may remember, I ran for Secretary of State in the great state of Ohio because I believe so much in expanding the franchise and not compressing the franchise. Many states in this country already have a type of voter ID. What the Save America Act would do, it would make it more onerous for people to be able to vote. The point that the Congresswoman made about people having to show a driver's license,
Starting point is 01:36:53 well under this bill, a driver's license would not be good enough. Birth certificates, passports. We know the passports could cost upwards of $180 or so. So that is a type of 21st century pay your way to vote. If we believe that voting is a fundamental right, then government could be going in the opposite direction, which is to ensure that we enfranchise more American citizens to vote. This is a solution in search of a problem because we know that there is slim to none by all studies, all reports, all accounts from folks, on the right and on the left in terms of people who monitor a voter impersonation,
Starting point is 01:37:40 it really rarely, if ever happens in the United States of America. And if it happens, every state in our union have have laws against it and there are consequences. There are fines and there's jail time. And there is not a lot of bonus for somebody to walk into a poll in place to try to impersonate somebody. In other words, what do they get out of that compared to if somebody wanted to rob a bank, if they're successful, then they know they get the money. What do you get for trying to impersonate somebody when you go and vote? It rarely, rarely happens. When it happens, people are caught. And the states, what happened to all these states rights? The states have
Starting point is 01:38:22 rules and regulations and penalties. What the president is doing is an overreach, and he is trying to scare the American people, just as they're doing with this war, they're doing this to make people think, oh, those people, that's somebody that is unqualified to vote in America, somehow trying to vote in this country and take over. You know, Jink and Congresswoman, I just had the opportunity a couple of days ago to talk to a group of Americans who live abroad. They're called the Dems abroad. And I know we got Republicans abroad, too. But I had a chance to talk to a portion of the leadership and one of the things that was animating them was this Save America Act. And what they said shared with me a portion of their fear is the mailing, you know, will
Starting point is 01:39:09 mailing be delayed and impact them? Will the rules on mail-in ballots change in such a way that it impacts them? And then also the birth certificate thing. And I asked them, I said, well, what is it? Because everybody should have a birth certificate. If you are American, you should be able to show the birth certificate. And they, and they explain. that a lot of Americans abroad don't necessarily, might not necessarily have that birth certificate on hand, might not necessarily know where to find it, and that it just causes a lot of trepidation. So if the president and this Congress and my conservative, sisters and brothers and family and friends really, really, really, really want to enfranchise people instead of disenfranchise people,
Starting point is 01:39:51 then let's come up with ways to make it easier for those who are qualified to vote to do so, just as they are trying to make it so that men, you know, forcing the enlistment now, bringing back that. Then they can do the same thing to help America's vote. But it is really a solution that there's really not a problem. So Representative Green, I want to give you more time on that. So folks say, look, there's two options here, passport or birth certificate, 9% of Americans don't have a birth certificate. Plus, when people get married, they don't have the same name anymore.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Getting a new one is going to cost a lot of time and money. 50% of Americans don't have passports. And now they're starting to worry if that's going to affect Republicans more than Democrats. So what do you think about those concerns? I think I have a lot more faith in the American people than you guys might. The Americans, Americans are extremely resourceful. They're very capable of getting their own birth certificates. they're very capable of having passports.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Nina, that is so cool that there's Dems abroad. I think that's awesome. I don't know if there's Republicans abroad, but there's one thing I know about Americans living abroad is they definitely have their passports, and I would say it's very highly likely that most of them also have their birth certificates. I think voting is such an incredible right,
Starting point is 01:41:11 and we want to make sure that illegal aliens are not voting in our elections, and it has happened. And once again, I don't think it's a problem for Americans to be able to get their birth certificate or their passport. Let's look at Americans can do anything when they really set their mind to it, and it's not that difficult to get a birth certificate or a passport. And I don't think this is something that's too much to ask. I know we disagree on this issue, but I certainly think it's important that people have identification, especially when they're carrying out the incredible right of casting their vote. vote for the people that represent us.
Starting point is 01:41:49 And I'll say that's so important because I would love to see a bunch of the leaders in Washington that represent us and many of the people that I served with. I would like to see them voted out of office. So I think it would be great if Americans definitely can make sure they have their birth certificate. They need it for many other things and make sure they have a passport and can prove their citizenship when they cast their vote for the leaders they want to represent them. But Jake, I certainly agree with Congresswoman on a lot of these Congress people need to be voted out.
Starting point is 01:42:20 So I'm with you on that. But is it that the states who have voting identification rules right now as they exist? Is it your belief that those rules across the states are not strong enough that the states somehow are derelict in their duties to protect the integrity of elections? I'm not accusing states. Listen, I'm a mom, and when I registered my kids for school all along, we always had to show a birth certificate. So, and I bring that up as an example, because this isn't really that complicated. And once again, I think election integrity is so incredibly important. It's not too much to ask of Americans to have the proper form of ID and be able to prove that they're a citizen of this country when they're casting their vote in our federal elections.
Starting point is 01:43:11 They have to prove it right now. I do want the viewers to know that people have to prove who they are right now in the United States of America before they go to vote. And the Brennan Center did a study, did one of the best studies about voter impersonation fraud, because that's what we're talking about right now. And basically what they surmise is that you have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than you do to have somebody impersonate another person in the voting in the voting booth. It is onerous what has happened. And that's not that, you know, I'm not saying this, this is onerous. If it's a fundamental right, and we know that at times in this country, that fundamental right was taken away from people who look like me, who had the count of bubbles, you know, the amount of bubbles in a bar of soap or the number of jelly beans or had to constantly always prove that they were worthy to be able to vote, which is why the African American community in particular, fought so hard for voting rights. My point is this, Congresswoman, you and I agree that I don't want
Starting point is 01:44:17 anybody who's not eligible to vote to be able to vote. We're together on that. What I also do not want is government to make it harder and government to amp people up and to scare people as to somehow there's this scourge of illegal, of people who are undocumented or uneligible to vote in our country. Study after study. Well, actually, Nina. People who are experts on this. Nina, if I can, I have an example. It does happen.
Starting point is 01:44:50 My ex-husband had his vote stolen in 2020. Someone mailed in an absentee ballot in his name. So when he showed up to vote in person, they told him, Mr. Green, you've already voted by absentee ballot. said, I absolutely have not. I have not voted by absentee ballot. And they had it in the Secretary of State system that someone had voted in his name with an absentee ballot. And he had not. And he had to sign a waiver saying, relinquishing that ballot so that he was allowed to vote in person in the election of 2020. So I know you're quoting some statistics, but I've got a personal story of someone I know. And there was a whole line of people there in the Florida County
Starting point is 01:45:31 election center that day, an entire line that we're having the same issue. They were told that an absentee ballot had been cast in their name. And so the purpose of the Save America Act is to make sure that our elections are more secure and safe, not to reject anyone based on their race or certainly make it harder on anyone's life. But I think when it comes to our elections, it's definitely worth it. And I just wanted to share that personal story with you because it's something that I witnessed and has happened to someone I know. I respect that story. I respect that story. But this is the point. There's systems in place to catch it. That states are doing a great job right now. And in-person voter fraud is very, very rare.
Starting point is 01:46:17 And if and when it happens, there are systems in place is my main argument. But Congresswoman, I certainly respect that story that you just told. So Senator, our last thing here, because Representative Green said she would get rid of the filibuster. Now when the Democrats were in charge, I know a lot of progressives were in favor of getting rid of the filibuster. So what do you think? Is she right about that? Boat it up or bowed it down. I mean, you know, we, most of us know the history of the filibuster. It is it too is rated, rooted in a racist history. I mean, just yeah, straight it up, bowed up and down. The Democrats should have used that tool when they had the power,
Starting point is 01:46:55 but they were too cowardice to do it. So yeah, get rid of the filibuster as far as I'm concerned. Okay, so you guys don't agree on the Save Act, but you do agree on getting rid of the filibuster so we could have a majority. Yes. All right, got it. Let's go on the next topic. And guys, both Representative Green and Nina Turner, Senator, have been really gracious and they're going to stay with us to take some member questions at the end and member comments and discuss this. So hit the join button below or t.com slash join. And at the end of this hour, we'll talk to them with just the members. Okay, so let's start. talk about housing. There's a new housing bill remarkably put forward by Elizabeth Warren and Tim Scott, speaking of left and right getting together. And it basically talks about building more housing and preventing big corporations from being able to buy residential real estate. Now that's in our populace plank. And so I'm surprised to see it getting so much approval in the Senate as it passed very, very easily.
Starting point is 01:48:03 I think only nine people voted against it. But now all of a sudden it looks like Trump, who said he wanted it, might not sign it, because he says, right or wrong that I want to do the Save Act first, and so, and it's running to some issues in the House. So curious what you think about a Representative Green. Do you like this bill to basically try to bring down housing prices? Oh yeah, I want to stop all of these big equity companies from buying up all the homes. I've got three kids and they're all in their 20s and that's the generation I care about.
Starting point is 01:48:35 And young people today, they don't think they're ever going to be able to afford to buy a home. And the reason why home prices have been driven up so high is these big investment in equity companies that have bought up these homes caused bidding wars and made it impossible blocking out young home buyers from being able to buy their first home. And that's so absurd. So I fully support blocking those equity companies from buying up single family homes and let buyers, individual buyers, be able to have a chance to buy their first home. There's another thing at play there, Jane, that I want to bring up. You know, in Washington, D.C., what I learned is it's always the donors that are the ones that they get their back scratched and they get it their way. And so while I think that bill was incredibly popular, we saw like you said, 90 votes.
Starting point is 01:49:25 the Senate that's amazing from the left and the right coming together to help Americans to be able to buy homes. What we're seeing the pushback in the White House is probably on behalf of these big equity firms and big donors. And this is what we've seen from the administration is the donors are getting their way and not the American people. And that's something I have a big problem with. I would rather see the American people be put first and these big donors and big equity firms get told, you know, get back in. your place and let the American people buy a home. So I always think it's something more when something more behind the scenes when an important issue like this is getting blocked. Yeah, so Nina, look, this is definitely a proposal that the left wing agrees with.
Starting point is 01:50:15 In fact, as we're all saying here, the vote was 89 to 9. But magically, it's not going to pass anyway. And so, and that's this, that type of thing happens when Republicans are in charge and Democrats are in charge. So what's your sense of why this isn't passing, even though it's enormously popular? Yeah, I mean, they're playing games. I wish President Donald Trump would use his incredible power to stand up for the American people in the way that he ran. He ran on a populist plank. He ran on America's America first. It doesn't get any more America first, then making sure that people have can afford homes, which is part of the quote
Starting point is 01:50:57 unquote American dream. But, you know, as the Congresswoman said, the owner donors, that's what I call them, the owner donors are going to have the final say that in the Senate, and I wouldn't doubt that folks have meetings like this, we're going to pass this in the Senate, but over in the house, we're going to shake it up. And the owner donors ultimately get what they want. The ruling class ultimately gets what it wants. And every day working class, people, of this country are left to suffer for. It is, it is, it is, it is patently immoral, if you, you ask me. We have the power to spend billions of dollars a day on wars,
Starting point is 01:51:34 but we won't end homelessness in the United States of America, which we could do in a heartbeat. Domestic tranquility, the last time I checked is a thing. And Maslow hierarchy of needs is very clear about how people actually get to self actualization within their lifetime and having your base need of shelter and food and clothing, that is vitally important. So if the president truly wants to go down in history as being one of the greatest presidents, I mean, he'll tell you he's the greatest right now of all times ever lived and ever will live, then ensuring that this bill passed would be one
Starting point is 01:52:14 step towards doing that. Yeah. So we're going to go to immigration next where I suspect we're going I'm gonna have some significant disagreement, but last thing on this. So I thought that Trump's executive order on this was really good. I'm a little skeptical that the executive orders are ever meant in a real way. Unfortunately, my skepticism was buttressed, if you will, by Donald Trump statement in the State of the Union and what he said recently to Mike Johnson. So Marjor, I'm gonna show you both of those things and they get your reaction. Just watch the state of the union comment on housing first.
Starting point is 01:52:53 And low interest rates will solve the Biden created housing problem. Well, at the same time protecting the values of those people who already own a house that really feel rich for the first time in their lives. We want to protect those values. We want to keep those values up. We're going to do both. And we are going to keep it that way. So he's saying we are going to keep housing prices high because that's a positive thing for people who own homes. That's one way of looking at it.
Starting point is 01:53:27 And he apparently told Mike Johnson, according to the New Republic, that quote, no one gives an F about housing. So do you agree with the president there or no? I completely disagree with the president. A lot of people give a strong F about housing and rightfully so. I'm a small government conservative. And this is a situation where I think the government should completely stay out of it. I just saw a graph this morning where homes sales are actually at 2008 crisis levels.
Starting point is 01:54:00 And I've owned a construction company for over 20 years. I remember 2008 very well because it was a very difficult time for construction, for home builders, for housing, for real estate. This comes on the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, absolute crisis. And of course, many Americans suffered through that and lost their homes through bankruptcy. and it was terrible. So no, I completely disagree with the president who happens to be a billionaire. And I think that's why he can't really relate to the American people and how important it is to the American people to be able to buy their home.
Starting point is 01:54:37 But I think it should be left to the market of home values. And if there's a lot of homes for sale on the market and they're not selling, well, guess what? Those home prices have got to come down so that these houses, start selling and the American people can afford them. All right, let's move on immigration. So the president apparently telling Republicans recently do not do mass deportations or do not talk about mass deportations. So Representative Green, everyone seems to have agreed.
Starting point is 01:55:09 You put away the criminals who are undocumented, that was very popular. When it got to the mass deportations, it was far less popular. So what's your take on whether they should continue to continue to try to do mass deportations? I served on Homeland Security as a member of Congress. And under the Biden administration, we saw tens of millions of people come across our border. And I thought that was completely wrong. I'm a big believer in strong borders the same way I like to lock my doors and windows
Starting point is 01:55:40 and make sure my home is safe. I want our country safe. So yes, I agree that we can all agree that criminal illegal aliens must be rounded up. They must be prosecuted. We saw fentanyl increase, fentanyl overdose increase in my district by 280%. And I'm friends with multiple people whose children were murdered by criminal illegal aliens. It was a very serious issue and it continues to be one. Now, I will say this, if the three of us go on a vacation and we go to, say, Columbia and we
Starting point is 01:56:13 overstay our visa and decide that we want to just stay in Columbia because we like it there and we want to work jobs and we want to continue carrying on in Columbia. The Colombian government, they're going to arrest us, they're going to put us in jail and they're eventually going to deport us. America has the same laws and they must be upheld. If people are undocumented in our country, they need to find their path, they need to work the pathway, the legal pathway, whether they want a work visa or they're trying to become a citizen. And many Americans have done that. And I absolutely love it and support it. I love to hear the stories of people earning their citizenship in America, but they're earning it the legal way. And so I'm a big believer in our laws, upholding our laws. And I'm also a believer in making
Starting point is 01:57:00 sure that we know the people who are in our country and that they're documented. And so I think there needs to be a legal process there. I don't believe in amnesty. I don't believe in just handing citizenship to people. I believe that everyone should have to work the same system. And so I just think that it's very important for us to make sure that our laws are upheld. So Senator Turner, you know, Marjorie Taylor Green is saying, look, if they overstay their visa or they're here in a in a way that is outside of our laws, well, we should enforce our laws. So do you disagree with that? Well, you won't get any argument with me about that. We, again, our sovereign nation, we have rules.
Starting point is 01:57:44 People should follow those rules. However, roughen up people shooting American citizens in the head, taking away peoples or standing on people's civil rights and civil liberties is no way to do it. I am old enough to remember that President Barack Obama, here tofore, I know President Trump is in competition with him over there. But he was called, you know, the deporter chief. He deported a lot of undocumented people out of this country. He still has the record for now.
Starting point is 01:58:15 But I know President Trump is going to try to beat them. And we did not see the type of blood and horror in the streets as we see right now. So I am not one of those Democrats that does not believe that this country has a right to enforce its laws. But it is how we enforce the laws. Do we have enough judges, for example, on the border? Different people are in this country and they may have different stuff. statuses. How do we deal with our laws and with our rules and ensuring that we're taking, looking at people's individual situations and dealing with them accordingly, but not doing so in a way
Starting point is 01:58:51 that causes death that separates children from their parents and causes the type of aura that we saw in Minneapolis and that we're seeing all over the country. You don't weaponize ICE against undocumented people or against the American citizens. You know, I have a brother who traveled for many years across the world, and he told Congresswoman, similar story. He was in said place, and they had certain rules, and he, as an American citizen, working there, had to follow the rule. So you get no pushback for me on that. But what I don't like is how it's done. What I don't appreciate is that many Congresses and presidents have failed in setting the rules and following the rules.
Starting point is 01:59:38 And so we should set the rules and follow the rules. But I would hope that all of us would agree that killing people and ruffling them up and some of the stories that the horror stories that we're hearing about some undocumented people being locked up, being raped, being molested, you know, being beaten that we as Americans and especially as Christians would not support those efforts. Yeah. Or that behavior, let me not, it's not an effort, but that we would not accept that type of behavior. And also how this president is weaponizing that against, you know, again, fear of the other.
Starting point is 02:00:15 So, okay, it's easy to theoretically say, take undocumented people who aren't following the law and deal with it in the ways that you guys kind of agreed with in the beginning. the implementation is what's difficult, right? So Representative Green, you know, there's Alleghener Alcatraz, there's Alex Prattie and Renee Good getting killed in in Minneapolis. So is that the right way to do it or would you do it some other way? Well, Alex Prady and Renee Good should be alive today. And I thought their deaths were tragic. I still don't understand. They were they were protesting aggressively, but I still think their deaths are wrong. I do want to say that. I think there's ways to do this, but we have to look at
Starting point is 02:01:01 the, look at what's happened over the decades. And I'm really glad that Nina brought up President Obama. He did an incredible job with mass deportations, but also think about this. American citizens weren't out protesting President Obama's ICE while they were carrying out these mass deportations, But yet it seemed to be the tone coming from President Trump's administration. And we saw Democrats out in the streets protesting President Trump's ICE. So there is that difference. There were no protests then, but yet now there were huge protests this time. But we have to look at decades.
Starting point is 02:01:38 We've had decades of Republican presidents and Democrat presidents and their administrations that basically turned a blind eye and would just allow so many people to come across our border, come across work jobs and no one said or did anything about it. And so we have all these undocumented immigrants in our country, illegal immigrants in our country that had lived this life of being able to live here, being able to rent a house, being able to work a job, and no one ever forced them into compliance under our law. And so I think that's part of the problem is the administrations in the past that set that precedence. And so that's something that does need to be addressed.
Starting point is 02:02:22 But I think it's extremely important to make sure everyone is legal and works illegal pathways. So really quick, just hold on. Let me follow up real quick, though. So Representative Green, but if they have been here 10, 20 years, they do have a house, they do have a business, you'd still deport them? If they were in, if we were in another foreign country and we were there illegally for 10 to 20 years and we owned a home and we owned a business, and our children were in their schools, we would be deported. So yes, I think that there needs to be a process. I don't know that they need to be deported immediately,
Starting point is 02:02:59 but I think that there should be a process of, okay, you're living here and working here. Let's get you over here. You need to get in this line. You need a work visa. You have to be documented. You have to be legal. If they're a criminally legal alien, my goodness,
Starting point is 02:03:14 deport them or prosecute them. They need to be held accountable for that. But we have to work a process where everyone is documented or deported. And that just may be the case for some people. Okay, so we're running short on time, but Senator Turner real quick to you, was Biden wrong, just let me ask these questions. Was Biden wrong to let those many people in? And is there really a way of saying, hey, if you're not here legally, you have to leave
Starting point is 02:03:41 without getting ICE to physically remove them? Yeah, we should make a way. We do a lot of things. So why not do these types of things humanely? You know, one of the things that happened under President Obama is that, you know, you didn't hear stories of American citizens being shot in the head. So he did not weaponize ICE in the way that President Donald J. Trump has weaponized ice and putting fear in the hearts of the American people.
Starting point is 02:04:09 You have the American people standing up saying that this is not right. And when you see such atrocities, you have got to stand up. If people have seen these types of atrocities under President Obama, you would have seen the American people stand up. And there are a lot of people in the Democratic side of the ledger that did not agree with President Obama, even though it wasn't these types of murders and trampling on people's First Amendment rights and their Fourth Amendment rights and being. And even judges have stepped in to say that how President Trump is comporting himself is wrong. So yes, where there is a wheel, there is a way. we do not have to treat undocumented people in such a horrific way that this administration is doing.
Starting point is 02:04:52 And they're only doing it to throw red meat to their base. Last thing, bottom line, Representative Green, mass deportations, yes or no? I think it has to be case by case. I think it's hard to just say yes or no to that. I see. Senator Turner? Yeah, I mean, yeah, absolutely, case by case. We got to do that. Okay, interesting. I think we had some disagreement. Yeah, we certainly had some disagreement there, but surprising number of agreements too, which I'm actually genuinely surprised by in that case. All right, fascinating.
Starting point is 02:05:27 So you guys are amazing. Thank you for doing this. Thank you for having a grown-up conversation where the right and left can talk. And, I mean, we tried to find topics that you guys disagreed on as well. But there was a significant amount of agreement here. And once you take like the toxic politics out of it, it is amazing. how much Americans agree. That's right.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Thank you, Jenk. Thank you, Nina. Thank you, thank you Marjorie. No full outrage here. Yeah, tell it like it is. That's right. I agree. Some of our members want to ask you guys about that actually and about what goes wrong
Starting point is 02:05:59 when you go into Congress and national politics. So we're going to do that for our members. So if you're watching right now, you can hit the join button on YouTube or t.yt.com slash join. And they're going to join us for a couple more minutes of questions from you guys. So looking forward to that. as well. For everyone else, thank you so much. Have a great night and have a good weekend.

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