The Young Turks - Marital Melee

Episode Date: October 3, 2025

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Welcome to TYTYT, I'm your host, Anna Casparian, and I'm your host Anna Casparian, and I want to to thank my co-host, Jank Uger, the CEO of this company for giving me a solo first hour today, because unfortunately I missed the show yesterday. I was flying in from New York, and the flight was delayed so much that I wasn't able to make the show, and I'm really, really sorry about that. But since Wednesdays, I usually have a solo hour. Jank was kind enough to give me a solo hour today. He will be joining me for the second hour and the bonus episode, so stick around for that. But before we even get to Jank's hour, we're going to talk about a lot of of important stories, including an incredible scuffle, verbal scuffle between Mika

Brzynski and her husband, Joe Scarborough, on Morning Joe today. Apparently, they have some pretty big disagreements on how the Democratic Party needs to move forward, how they need to fight. And what's incredible about that story is they both somehow managed to be wrong. So we're gonna get to that at the top of the show. Sadly and tragically, there's also a horrific story out of England that we're going to talk about. There was an attack, a terrorist attack on a synagogue. People were killed as a result. And so I'm going to give you the details as we have them at the moment later in the show.

And then we'll talk about a little bit, we'll talk a little bit about Tucker Carlson's somewhat lengthy monologue about what he feels is a toxic relationship between the United States and Israel. I think he actually makes some good points. And in fact, even offers some actionable items for how we can report. that relationship in a way that he sees as beneficial to both the United States and Israel, so stick around for that. As always, just want to encourage you to like and share if you're watching us live. It helps us with the ALGO, as the kids say. So help spread the message of

TYT and the work that we do here. It's a free and easy way to support our work. You can also become a member, a paying member, and help support our show that way by going to t.com slash join. All right, without further ado, I wanted to start off with something a little bit out of left field. This is by no means the top news story of the day, but it's so different from everything else in the rundown that I just kind of wanted to cover it at the top before we move on to some geopolitical news, foreign policy news and the like. So without further ado, let's get into it. Democrats have got to get better at pushing back and fighting against things that are clearly alive. I also just don't understand why we're blaming the Democrats for

Republicans lying. What exactly are the Democrats supposed to do? You keep repeating. They're supposed to fight back. Yes. So it's a little awkward when husband and wife get into a public spat. But that's exactly what happened on Morning Joe this morning with Mika Brasinski and Joe Scarborough. Now Scarborough took his own wife to task for letting weak Democrats off the hook despite their honestly mealy mouth fights against Trump and the Republican Party. And honestly, I agree with that sentiment. However, somehow both Mika and Joe came away looking like absolute imbeciles. And I know that's a harsh word to use, but just bear with me as I make my case. So here's the context. The Morning Joe panel was discussing the government shutdown. We are right now as we speak undergoing a government shutdown because Congress, the Democrats

and the Republicans couldn't come to an agreement on funding the government. And they disagreed in regard. to, you know, how Democrats should proceed forward, right? So there's a government shut down. They're also talking about the fact that Republicans have homed in on the talking point that the entire fight is over federally funded health care for undocumented immigrants. Now, TYT covered that in detail on yesterday's show. We're not going to get into those, you know, details right now. But that's not what this fight is really about. What the Democratic Party really wants to do is essentially repeal a provision from the big, beautiful bill that would cut a trillion dollars

in Medicaid funds, which obviously would be very devastating for Americans who are reliant on Medicaid. So that's what the whole fight is really about. The Democrats are in the Senate specifically are saying, well, look, we've got some leverage when it comes to funding the government. Why not use this leverage to fight and get something that we want out of these negotiations? Now, Vance Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson and tons of other Republican leaders have been repeating this claim that, you know, federal Medicaid dollars are going to undocumented immigrants. But in reality, that's not really what they're concerned about. They want to continue justifying the massive tax cuts, the permanent tax cuts that disproportionately benefit

the rich while cutting a trillion dollars from Medicaid. And they don't want to negotiate with Democrats on this issue at all. Now, Joe Scarborough characterized it as a as a complete lie, meaning the lie that all these federal dollars are going to undocumented immigrants and slammed the Democrats for failing to push back on it. Take a look. Democrats have got to get better at pushing back and fighting against things that are clearly a lie. Whether it's that lie or whether it's J.D. Vance repeating that lie, whether it's Mike Johnson repeating that lie, whether it's J.D. Vance saying very matter of fact, Of course we all know most of the violence politically comes from the left.

He knows that's a lie. Where are the Democrats? Why are the Democrats so ineffective in pushing back and fighting back against things that are obviously not true? Look, so far, I'm on Joe Scarborough's camp. I never thought in a million years that I would say that. But it is true that Democratic voters, I'm personally no longer a Democrat, I'm a registered independent, but I sympathize and had since, sympathize for many years with Democratic voters who felt that the Democratic Party was

essentially inefficient in fighting back against the GOP. They lack the strategy necessary to push back. And so, so far, I'm on Joe Scarborough's side. However, Mika Brzynski didn't take kindly to this criticism of the Democratic Party. Take a look. I also just don't understand why we're blaming the Democrats for Republicans lying. at the highest level of office. They have the biggest microphone. They have TV networks that repeat the lies and say things on those networks

with no consequence. And the things they say are violent, okay? So they're not only repeating the lies, but adding to this coarseness. And there's no consequence to it. And we're blaming the Democrats. We're blaming the Democrats for this. Yes, you should blame

the Democrats, because the fact of the matter is, we now live in an age where partisan media reigns supreme. And there are huge downsides to that, but to pretend as though there's no such thing as liberal media that carries out the messaging of the Democratic Party is laughable to say the least. Yes, there's also conservative media. But for the longest time, I think disproportionately, the media leaned more in the liberal camp as opposed to the conservative camp. Right now, there's partisan media, period. And so there are certainly avenues in which the Democratic Party could use left-wing media to engage or carry out their messaging in a strategic way.

And I think that they have failed at that. Part of the reason why they failed at that is because they've been honestly very slow to catch on to the importance of, you know, independent media. And what I mean by independent is not ideologically independent. I'm talking about alternative media, right? Digital media, avenues in which you can spread your messaging outside of the ordinary corporate media infrastructure. But on top of that, there really hasn't been much strategy from the Democratic Party to begin with, right? That's really been the core of the issue here.

They haven't really figured out what their identity is. I don't know who their leader is. It's just, it's kind of been a mess. I think we can all agree on that. And so right now, they're trying to get their bearings. And I actually think they've chosen an important issue to fight on, which is ensuring that you protect Medicaid funds on behalf of Americans who live below the poverty line and need that help in order to ensure they have health care coverage.

I think that is an important and noble fight to engage in. Now, it's interesting, though, because Mika Brzynski doesn't like the fact that Scarborough and others, myself included, have felt that the Democrats haven't fought hard enough, right? And I'm not just saying fight for the hell of it, right? I'm talking about fight in a strategic way that actually secures policies that benefit the American people. That's what I'm specifically referring to. And so Scarborough steps in, but before you give him too much credit, get a load of who he

cites as like the pinnacles of brave democratic leadership. What exactly are the Democrats supposed to do? You keep ruby, they're supposed to fight back, they're supposed to know, they're supposed to do like, what exactly? No, no, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton just completely abused and you. used Republicans and every government shut down. I know I was there. He was smart enough politically to do it. Barack Obama knew how to always get the best of Republicans. All right? We're not blaming Democrats for Republicans' lies. We're saying that Democrats at some point

have to figure out how to answer those lies. And that's not whining. The whining comes from Democratic leaders that still don't have an answer to Republican lies, 10 years in to Donald Trump's terms. Clinton was the president who oversaw and Greenlit what was referred to as welfare reform, which was a huge objective of the Republican Party. I don't know, when I think of Bill Clinton, I don't really think of someone who was a real fighter, someone who took the Republican Party to task. But let's put that aside, because there was something else that you might have missed from what Joe Scarborough said there. Because he had said that, well, Barack Obama knew how to always get the best of Republicans.

Did he? Did he really? Because if I remember correctly, Obama failed the American people after the 2008 economic collapse to the point. point where he paved the way for a faux populist like Donald Trump to come into office, to easily win the 2016 election. Now, look, it was a close election, but at the end of the day, someone like Donald Trump was considered a complete no-go. There's no way the American people would vote this guy into office. I didn't see it coming. And he did end up getting voted in in 2016, specifically because he ran, in my opinion,

Now in retrospect, a smart campaign where he spoke to the issues, the financial frustrations and economic concerns that Americans had. Now obviously he then came into office and enriched himself and enriched his wealthy donors, just like any other politician who gets elected into the White House would do. So there was that. But to say that Obama was like this brave warrior who aggressively fought back Republicans is insane and laughable to me. So I want to just kind of remind you about a few things. But before I do, just one more video, one more clip. Let's watch.

Get all your smart people around the table, figure out what your strategy is, make it so simple, you can put it on a buffer sticker and shove it down your opponent's throats for the next month. Democrats don't know how to do this anymore. Bill Clinton knew how to do it. Barack Obama knew how to do it. Let's talk about how Barack Obama knew how to do it, okay? So let's take a journey all the way back to 2011, when there was this big debate between Democrats and Republicans on something known as the grand bargain, right? So Obama was definitely the leader of promoting and attempting to push through this so-called

grand bargain. The grand bargain was Obama's attempt to compromise, not fight back against, but to compromise. with the Republicans. This is during the budget debates in Congress. So the goal was to reduce the national debt, which of course Republicans always pretend like they care about. But once they're in charge, they always add to our national debt. Let's not forget about that. Obama seemed genuine in wanting to do something about the national debt. And so as a result of that, and in the middle of this budget debate and fight in Congress, he was willing to compromise, but compromise, honestly, some of the most important benefits and entitlements for

the American people. Social Security is one of them. So basically, again, the goal was to reduce the national debt and avoid automatic spending cuts across the government known as sequestration. So President Barack Obama decided to advocate for historic cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, in exchange for a tax hike, get a load of this of roughly $100 billion, $100 billion per year over 10 years. So he was willing to cut one of the most important benefits for elderly people in this country, Social Security, in return for, in my opinion, when you think about the number of numbers we're dealing with today, a measly $100 billion per year in tax increases over a decade.

That was a really bad idea. Luckily, it didn't work. So the cuts to Medicare and Medicaid that were proposed by Obama would have totaled $320 billion. And he argued for reducing Social Security benefits by recalculating the way cost of living adjustments are made. They're cuts, they're cuts to Social security. At the end of the day, I mean, it is a wonder like that Ben Shapiro of all people despised Obama when this is the kind of stuff that Ben Shapiro is totally in favor of. But let me continue. He also proposed some deductions, tax deductions for big business. Does that sound like fighting back against the Republicans? No, not to me, not at all. One of the main figures leading the charge against the grand bargain was none other than Senator Bernie Sanders, because he's

always been consistent in wanting to fight back on behalf of ordinary working class Americans. So you gotta love them for that. On the other side though, the Tea Party fought the deal because they didn't feel that there were enough cuts to these programs that Americans pay into. And because of that pressure, Republican House speaker at the time that was John Boehner rejected the deal. So John Boehner, who then by the way retired from politics and proceeded to work or work in the cannabis industry. He ended up saving us, even though I don't agree with his politics at all. And so luckily, the grand bargain didn't work.

And Obama, the guy who wanted to hand Republicans' historic cuts to Social Security and Medicaid, according to Joe Scarborough, knew how to always get the best of Republicans? Is he high? But then I remember that Joe Scarborough is a former Republican, who very likely falls in the camp of neoliberalism and hates these entitlement programs, which Americans pay into and are entitled to. But look, the terrible takes from the Morning Joe panel didn't end there because panelist Mike Barnacle came in,

and he actually agreed with Joe Scarborough that the Democrats need to do a better job of fighting hard. And he has someone in mind to take up that mantle. It's who's delivering the punch him out message. Hakeem Jeffries is a wonderful guy. Chuck Schumer's a nice guy. They're not getting it done. I saw a guy over the weekend who is getting it done, who knows how to get it done in a form of the future of the Democratic Party,

basically saying what's wrong with the Democrats. And this guy stood up. His name is Rahm Emanuel. And he had everyone who was listening to him on the edge of their chair saying, yeah. Yeah, well, there's how to do this. Yeah, well, there's one. Good, good, good. If you're wondering, how out of touch are the liberals on MSNBC? Let me give you a little taste.

Let's take a look at this next graphic, which shows that, oh, wow, Rahm Emanuel's popularity rating is a whopping 19%. He was a disaster in the Obama administration. First term, of course, where he called progressives effing R word. And he was disastrous as the mayor of Chicago. That's the guy that you're going to put on a pedestal as a guy who could really get it done for the Democrats. Man, talk about not understanding the moment we're in at all. So there are no winners in this story, unfortunately.

It is what it is. We got to take a break. When we come back, we've got a lot more to get to, including a pretty devastating story out of Manchester, England. We'll also talk about the latest updates to the ceasefire deal that President Trump brokered between the United States and Israel, to be quite frank. And unfortunately, we don't have some good updates on that. Well, we do have information, but the updates are not good. So that and more coming up, don't miss it. This episode is brought to you by prize picks.

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So let's let's get to the details. in what authorities say was a terrorist attack on a synagogue in the northern English city of Manchester. Now the perpetrator who was fatally shot by police after the attack had rammed a car into a crowd of people directing, like he was directing the car, specifically at a group of people, obviously to cause harm, and then proceeded to stab people at the Heaton Park Hebrew Synagogue as worshippers observed. Yom Kippur, which is considered the holiest day in the Jewish calendar. It also tends to be the day when synagogue attendance is at its highest.

Which is absolutely horrific. Now authorities say that worshippers heroically, heroically prevented this suspect from gaining access into the synagogue, where more people could have ended up getting stabbed and killed. And this isn't the first time a terror attack happened in Manchester. In fact, back in 2017, if you guys can all recall, there was an attack. It was the deadliest attack in recent years when a suicide bomber targeted an Ariana Grande concert, killing 22 people. So just absolutely horrific.

And, you know, as mentioned earlier, the suspect had been shot and killed by authorities. And the entire attack from beginning to when the suspect was shot and killed lasted about 10 minutes and it was around 9 a.m. this morning. So authorities say that he was shot within seven minutes of the attack. Now here are some more details and the details are gruesome. So I want to give you a warning ahead of time. A video uploaded to social media, which was verified by NBC News, shows a man lying on the ground outside the synagogue while two officers point their guns at him. When the man tries to get up, an officer fires a single round. But it took a while for authorities to confirm that the suspected perpetrator had actually

died because he was wearing a vest that gave the appearance of an explosive device. So here's a still image from the New York Post. You might have seen this image. It's been floating around the internet ever since this story broke. It shows the suspect and the vest slash device that he was wearing. prior to him getting shot and killed by the authorities. So a bomb disposal technician was called to secure the situation after the suspect was shot. So here's some more detail about the suspect.

And I want to give you guys a warning that, you know, this story is still developing. For instance, I look to see if the authorities had identified the two victims who died as a result of this terrorist attack. And we don't have details on them, at least not from any reporting that I try. at the moment. But here's what we know about the suspect so far. So authorities have identified the suspect as 35 year old British citizen of Syrian descent. His name is or was, and I kid you not, Jihad al-Shami. The investigation is ongoing. According to NBC News, London's Metropolitan Police has taken over the investigation, which was initiated by the Greater Manchester police, GMP. The London Metro Police is responsible for dealing with all counterterrorism

investigations throughout the United Kingdom, which is why they have taken over the investigation. So this is being treated as a terror attack, although authorities are not specifying what the motive is. This investigation is ongoing. And there have been some arrests made in addition to the, you know, alleged suspect being shot and killed. I want to give you some more details on that, according to the BBC. Important to say, there's been a couple of arrests, haven't there? We don't know much about those or what the details of those arrests were? No, two arrests made at an address not far from here, and they were made, I would say, about 1 o'clock this afternoon. So we knew that they

were ongoing. It wasn't clear whether or not they were linked to what happened. but it seems that they were. With the Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police confirming that there have been to arrest. We did hear a number of controlled explosions here earlier this afternoon. We understand that was to actually to do with actually getting into the vehicle that the assailant was driving

at the time, because remember this was an attack involved a stabbing and a car being driven at a number of people. They were obviously having trouble getting into it safely, so they used the bomb disposals facilities to actually get into that car safely to get the locks blown off by the sounds of it. And we've heard three explosions

throughout the afternoon. So again, those explosions were not the result of some terrorist attack. Those explosions were carried out by the authorities in their attempts to essentially search the vehicle that this perpetrator had to see if there's any bombs, any other weapons in the vehicle. That's at least according to what authorities have initially said. Now, after that broadcast, which I just showed you video of, one more person was arrested. bringing the total number of individuals detained as a,

as possible suspects involved in this terrorist attack to three. So two of them are men in their 30s and one is a woman in her 60s. They were taken into custody under suspicion of acts of terrorism. Now I want to just say it's suspicion of acts of terrorism. They haven't been found guilty of anything. We don't even know the identities of these three individuals who have been arrested. But I just wanted to give you that background because there could potentially be more people involved outside of the suspect who was shot and killed by authorities.

Now look, the fact of the matter is hate crimes are absolutely on the rise. You know, some people I see minimizing the hate crimes that have been directed at innocent Jewish people across the globe and you shouldn't do that because it is a reality and there's data to back that up. So police data suggests that anti-Semitic hate crimes are in fact on the rise in England and Wales, police recorded 3,282 of these offenses in the year ending March 2024 up from 1,543 hate crimes. So that's hate crimes in total. They're not just hate crimes directed at Jewish people. However, of those hate crimes, offenses against Jewish people made up a third of all religious hate crimes recorded by police. And look, in terms of volume,

in terms of sheer numbers, there is a higher number of hate crimes committed against Muslims in the UK. However, and that's because of the higher number of Muslims living in the UK. However, in regard to the rate of hate crimes that are committed, it appears that Jewish people have been targeted at a higher rate. And so the Home Office says that religious hate crimes against both Jewish people and Muslims has risen since the beginning, of the Israel Hamas conflict, and that brings me to the root of this issue. When you see what's happening on the ground, not just in Gaza, but the West Bank and what's been going down in the Middle East, there are ripple effects to that.

And the ripple effects are devastating because the people who suffer are innocent people who should not fear going to their place of worship. Two innocent people who have absolutely nothing to do with what's happening in the Middle East lost their lives today in a disgusting and tragic way. And for others, we're critically injured. This doesn't solve anything. All it does is spread more hatred, more fear, and all it does is claim the lives of more innocent people. To me, a life is precious regardless of their identity, whether they're

Palestinians or whether they're Jewish people. Period. End of story. For me, what happened to these two individuals, the fact that their lives were robbed from them is a gross injustice. And I have no problem speaking out against it. The thing that I do have a problem with, honestly, is that while it is a good thing that internationally, this type of violence is condemned, the loss of innocent lives is condemned. I don't know why, but the fact of the matter is the same emotions are never conveyed when it comes to innocent Palestinians losing their lives, whether it's in the West Bank or Gaza. And I find that to be a gross injustice as well. But anyone who thinks directing hatred, discrimination, or violence against any innocent person,

whether they are a Muslim Palestinian or a Jewish person, I am not in favor of them at all. Because for me, both sides, both sides, the civilians in both sides, should be protected. their lives are precious. The lives of Jewish people across the globe are precious. And I feel the same way about Palestinian civilians as well. So as this story develops, obviously we'll give you more details. I want to know more about the victims here. But please, for anyone in the audience who's listening and takes what I have to say seriously,

and I hope you do, do not allow. what is currently being carried out in the Gaza Strip to convince you that hatred is the solution. Because all it does is make the problem worse. This doesn't solve anything, it doesn't help anyone. All it does is rob the lives of innocent people. And on top of that, by the way, it instills fear in the hearts of Jewish people who should feel comfortable and safe, practicing their religion and going to whatever synagogue they want to go to. Anyway, just absolutely devastating story.

Now, unfortunately, for those who were hopeful that a ceasefire would actually be implemented in Gaza, it looks like that's not going to be the case, and I want to tell you why. And we should remember that Israel will remain in control over Gaza. They changed what they had actually briefed the leaders and then unilaterally announced something different. Everyone kept saying you have to accept Hamas's terms to withdraw everyone. The IDF needs to withdraw and Hamas can recover and also rehabilitate the strip. No way, that's not happening. Well, we now have some clarity on what I personally consider a dirty trick that's being played by the Trump administration and the Israeli government when it comes to a possible.

peace deal or ceasefire to end the slaughter in Gaza. Now, I wanted desperately for the terms of a ceasefire to be accepted by both parties, for the killing to stop, for just an end to all this mindless, terrible violence. But we now have clarity from people who are in the know about what's actually going on here. So look, before we get to the details, I just want to draw your attention to a post on X that leads people who are actually informed on this issue to ask themselves a question. Is he lying or just stupid? So I bring you Noah Smith, who I think is like a writer on substack or something. But for whatever reason, he shows up on my X feed all the time.

So he writes, it's kind of grim watching the whole global pro-Palestine movement scream for war to continue. Now, I'm obviously wanting this war to end. And I personally haven't seen pro-Palestine people calling for the slaughter to continue. And so when he was asked, are pro-Palestinian people really calling for the genocide, ethnic cleansing and apartheid to continue, though? Israel can stop anytime they choose, you know. And he just responds, they are calling for all that. Yeah. Okay, well, Noah Smith, just as I go through the details of the story, ask yourself, and then we can decide in the end. Is he lying or is he just stupid? So with that in mind, I want to get to why Noah Smith and anyone who thought that this peace deal was real actually happens to be wrong. It was not negotiated

in good faith. And the person who's going to give us the information on this is Jeffrey Sachs. He is a public policy analyst. He has negotiated peace deals. He's an incredibly informed guy. I highly recommend you listen to all the content that he's involved in, because I've learned a lot from him myself, including what the reality is of this peace deal. Let's take a look.

The administration, President Trump briefed Arab leaders at the end of last week on this plan. They said, well, there are a number of things that are good with this. And then Trump met with Netanyahu and Ron Dürmer, who is one of these forces of right-wing extremism in Israel. And he's an American-born advisor to Netanyahu, who was Israel's ambassador to the United States for a long time. He knows how to pull strings of American politicians wherever those strings and however they, arise, and they changed the plan as they met and basically rewrote key parts of what Trump had told the Arabs to say, oh, yes, yes, and we should remember that Israel will remain in

control over Gaza. They changed what they had actually briefed the leaders and then unilaterally announced something different. And this is just now being disclosed in recent hours. This is so typical. So when Noah Smith says that pro-Palestinian activists want the killing to continue, he's specifically referring to pro-Palestinian activists who saw right through this supposed peace deal. Now, I needed to know what the actual details were and our media does a terrible job in helping us decipher, Okay, what is the actual agreement here? But that clarity that we just got from Jeffrey Sachs is so important because I almost got

fooled by this. Because when I saw that Arab leaders were like, you know what, this is an acceptable deal. Hamas should totally accept it. I was like, maybe, maybe, but there's something off because there's no way in hell Benjamin Netanyahu of all people would ever agree to a deal. that would call for the removal of IDF soldiers from the Gaza Strip. There's no way. So like something wasn't making sense and now we know what it is.

So just to reiterate what we heard from Jeffrey Sachs, they essentially changed the peace deal after meeting with a guy named Ron Dermer in Israel. We'll get to him in just a minute. And they did so after getting the support of Arab leaders. Now, why did they do that? Well, this allows for Israel to say, look, this is a great peace deal because the Arab leaders accepted it. But they accepted the initial peace deal, at least the terms of the initial peace deal, before it was revised following Trump's negotiation or meeting with a guy named Ron Dermer in Israel. So when Trump meets with Dermer and changes the terms in a way that overwhelmingly benefits Israel and essentially crushes,

the possibility of a Palestinian state, well, obviously, Hamas is going to deny that. They're going to say, we're not going to, no, we want a two-state solution. We're not going to be okay with IDF soldiers occupying the Gaza Strip. When they reject the revised deal, at that point, Israel and the United States can basically point to that as the excuse for annihilating the Gaza Strip. Well, Hamas didn't accept the peace deal. No, no, they didn't accept the revised version that isn't being advertised right now by U.S. corporate media. So I just think that's a really interesting detail that's missing from a lot of the reporting in the U.S.

Now, who's Ron Dürmer? You got a little taste of who he is based on the description you heard from SACS, but he actually is the person who worked on Netanyahu's 2008 campaign for prime minister. And that was a successful campaign, by the way. So the following year in 2009, he was named Netanyahu's senior advisor, okay? And then the Jerusalem Post even said that Dürmer, quote, runs much of the interference with the White House and is intimately involved in the diplomatic process with the Palestinians, if you want to call that diplomacy, and writes many of Netanyahu's speeches. Now remember Netanyahu is in the Lakud Party and the Lakud Party's founding charter indicated that the goal, the objective of the Lakud Party, is to pursue the Greater Israel Project, which means no Palestinian state, no Palestinian state in Gaza, no Palestinian control

in the West Bank. In 2011, Allison Hoffman over at Tablet Magazine said that Dermar is Beebe's brain, quoting a longtime observer of Israeli politics as saying, if you look at Ron, you see Beebe. So that's the guy that advised Donald Trump on how to revise the peace deal in a very stealth way. It's very stealthy, right? Because we don't we don't see a lot of reporting on this. But Jeffrey Sachs is involved. He goes to UN meetings. He listens.

He engages. This is his wheelhouse. So he's way more informed on this than most people really are, to be honest. So that's what's going on with the peace deal. What was advertised early this week is not what the actual peace deal that Hamas is currently reviewing says. So how was the original peace deal, which Arab leaders agreed to, revised, what changed? Well, you're going to get a little taste of that in this next clip. The way that this agreement is written is that Israel keeps its security control over Gaza.

In other words, Gaza remains under Israel's dominance, which is Netanyahu's whole point. Here's Prime Minister Netanyahu speaking in Hebrew immediately upon his return from Washington to Tel Aviv. Everyone kept saying you have to accept Hamas's terms to withdraw everyone. The IDF needs to withdraw and Hamas can recover and also rehabilitate the strip. No way, that's not happening. On the contrary, and President Trump added that if Hamas refuses, he will give Israel full backing to complete the military operation to eliminate it. So make no mistake about it, this is all a way of setting up Hamas to reject a deal, which does not in any way move toward Palestinian statehood and in fact would allow for

the IDF to continue occupying both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. They're going to reject it. And when they do reject that, they're going to be used as the excuse or that rejection is going to be used as an excuse to annihilate the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. That's what this is, it's a setup. And it's just so utterly gross and honestly reminiscent of what's been happening in other peace deals, even the Oslo Accords, all this stuff that's been going down for the last several decades, the negotiations and the deals and the terms of these deals are never

in good faith. And the way that the history books are written makes it appear as though, oh, the Palestinians are the bad guys, they're the ones who reject everything. But what have they actually been offered, historically speaking? And that brings us back to Noah Smith, because I am curious, is he just ignorant of this? Or is he stupid? Or is he a liar? I don't know.

But to say that people who are concerned about the well-being of innocent civilians in Gaza want more slaughter is so disgusting and so bad faith. stick to writing your economic articles over at Substack. If you don't understand what's actually going down here, then maybe don't opine about it. But if you're going to opine about it, and you're going to keep spreading these just like misleading, honestly defamatory statements about people, well then it's going to be clear to me that you're just lying and spreading propaganda on behalf of a government that's currently carrying out what genocide scholars and the UN have referred to as a genocide. And I'm just sick of it. I'm sick of the gas lighting. I can't

take it anymore. All right, we got to take a break when we come back. One more story for you. Don't miss it. relaxation of zero stress, zero worries, zero indecision. Hurry in, because once they're gone, there will be zero left. During the Nissan All In Clear Out, get 0% financing plus up to $500 bonus on some of our best-selling models. You have zero reasons to wait. Conditions apply. See your local Nissan dealer today.

Brenda Jones writes in in our member section and makes a point that is, in my opinion, irrefutable. If you want to know what everyone has been up to, Jeffrey Sachs is the man to listen to. I agree wholeheartedly. I mean, that guy is just a wealth of knowledge when it comes to geopolitics. So something to consider if you're looking to brush up on what's happening, not just in Gaza, but around the world as it pertains to U.S. foreign policy. All right. One more first hour story before we bring Jank in. Let's get to it. During the 12-day war, such as it was, with Iran, the U.S. and Israel versus Iran, bombing on all sides.

There are a bunch of Israeli defense force officers in the Pentagon that week. And during that week, ask anyone who works with the Pentagon, they enraged American Pentagon staff by just barking. into meetings, giving orders, making demands, and nobody did anything about it. Well, that's not good. In fact, Tucker Carlson engaged in a lengthy monologue about the toxicity of this US-Israel alliance. And that was just one example that he pointed to in regard to that toxicity. And as you just heard him explain, Israeli soldiers were apparently bossing American officials around in the Pentagon during the 12-day war in Iran. And that is humiliating for the United States. We shouldn't be taking orders from officials

from any other foreign government either. But we have that special relationship with Israel. So this just kind of goes on and it's unchecked. And I think it's unacceptable. So does Tucker Carlson. It's one of the things that we agree with each other on. So as a result, Carlson has suggested that President Donald Trump is rapidly losing patience with Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli government, which I find dubious to say the least, and I can explain why in a moment. But recently Trump did declare that he would not allow Israel to annex the West Bank, which Carlson believes was his response to Netanyahu's claims that he controls the United States government. Take a look.

I think the good news is that the government of Israel, in particular, the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, has pushed it too far. And he did that in part by running around, telling people what he thought was true, apparently, I control Donald Trump. I control the United States Congress. I control the United States. He said that to political allies and opponents in his country. He said to foreign heads of state.

Fact, I control these people. don't you worry. And by the way, if you kick me out of office, the next guy probably won't have the level of control that I have. He's made that case. That was too much for our president. And so in one of the great moments, it was just, it was a cool shower on a hot day. President Trump push back, not directly, but you can watch this clip and see that he's had enough. I will not allow Israel to annex the West Bank. No, I will not allow it. It's not going to happen. Did you speak with Netanyahu about this? Yeah, but I'm not going to allow it.

Now look, for me, talk is cheap, and I see President Donald Trump as the K-FAPE president. If you don't know what K-Fabe is, look into it, it's a wrestling term. It's theater. He will say things publicly, but do something entirely different in his actions, right? So it remains to be seen whether Trump is actually going to push back against the Israel. government when it comes to the annexation of the West Bank, because let's not forget, he collected a cool $100 million from Miriam Adelson in order to step back and allow Israel to annex the West Bank. So I'm not just going to take his word for it. I'm going to wait and

see if Trump is actually going to walk the walk, or if he's just engaging in more of the K-FAPE theater that we typically expect from this administration. But nonetheless, Carlson's monologue, which was titled Four Ways to Fix America's Deeply Destructive and Humiliating Relationship with Israel, make some interesting suggestions, most of which I actually agree with. Now, his first suggestion was for Americans to recognize how Israel's pretty insignificant when it comes to the United States and its own geopolitical goals. Take a look. The United States is a nation of 350 million people.

It is some of the deepest natural resources in the world that would include energy and water, agricultural products. The United States, however it's managed, is a powerhouse globally and always will be because its strength is inherent. It's a huge, decisive country. Israel is not an insult merely an observation. By contrast, is a tiny and inherently insignificant country, at least geopolitically, In that, it has only 9 million people and no natural resources, no meaningful natural resources. So it is insignificant. It is also physically tiny. It's about the size of New Jersey famously, but it has a much smaller GDP than New Jersey.

Come on, that's a little bit unfair. I hear Israel's actually huge when it comes to the diamond trade. You should look into that, by the way, and see how exactly they are so big in the diamond trade. But nonetheless, obviously I'm being facetious in what I'm saying here, but nonetheless, I, I, look, it's a harsh way of putting it, but it's actually true in terms of the natural resources, the influence over the globe, the importance geopolitically, calling Israel insignificant is going to piss a lot of people off. I get it. I totally get it, but he's not wrong. And so as a result, he suggests that the United States, stop taking orders from Israel? Take a look at that. The true villain here, I would argue, is not the state of Israel. The Jews. It's the United States. It's our leaders who are putting up with this. Israel is a small country with very limited resources, and it is doing its best to serve its own interests.

You'd think every country would act that way, and most do. But there are some that don't, and ours would top that list. You can't be shamed into ignoring things that are quite clearly not the behavior of a subordinate ally to a big brother ally. For example, spying on the country that makes your economy and your defense possible, which the Israelis have been doing for generations. That's a fact. That is a fact. In fact, hundreds of Israeli spies were arrested and detained following the horrific terrorist attack on September 11th, 2001. They were spying on domestic, in the United States, on domestic soil. If that is our ally, how do you justify the spying that's taking place? And by the way, the United States spies on Israel as well.

I'm not stupid. I know that that's true. That sounds like a pretty toxic relationship. And look, the point that Tucker Carlson is making here is true. How exactly does it benefit American citizens to, for instance, spend $30 billion on Israel's annihilation of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. How does that benefit us, especially at a time when we just had Medicaid funds slashed to the tune of a trillion dollars over the next decade?

What are we paying our taxes for? And why are we borrowing money at a time when we have an insane amount of federal debt to pay for Israel's weaponry as they carry out atrocities and war crimes in Gaza and the West Bank. How does this make any sense? He's right. If you take your emotions out of it and just look at the facts, this is not beneficial for the American people at all. So let's talk about some of the specific things that Carlson thinks need to change in order to repair this toxic alliance and relationship we have with Israel. He talks about the issue of dual citizenship. I differ from him on this a little bit. So let's watch what he has to say and I'll explain what I mean.

The third thing, I think that would be very helpful to restore health and balance the relationship between the United States and Israel is restore the concept of citizenship in the United States. If you're an American citizen, it means something. The first thing it means is equality. You are equal to every other citizen. There's no hierarchy of citizenship. All citizens are equal. Each gets one vote. Each gets justice before the law.

That's the promise of the United States. And each gets to say exactly what he thinks, period. restore the value of citizenship. And the very first thing you would do if you cared about that and you should because the country can't continue without it after you expelled everyone who's not a citizen from the country, which should happen immediately, they should be deported immediately for our own survival. But after doing that, the first thing you would do is not allow dual citizenship.

And moreover, you are not allowed to serve in a foreign military without losing your American citizenship. You're fighting for another country? how can that be allowed? How can you retain your citizenship? By the way, why aren't you serving an armed military? And APAC has to register under Farrah, the Foreign Age and Registration Act of the 1930s. Of course, it's a foreign lobby. There are a million of them. But it's only APAC that doesn't register. I agree with him when it comes to APAC entirely. I'm not even going to dive into that at all because I'm totally aligned with Tucker Carlson on that issue. I do want to talk about deporting all people who are here

without documented status, right? Look, I just see that as extreme. And I'm not opposed to deporting some folks, but I also want to implement a process so people have a pathway to citizenship. Because I don't think an undocumented person who's been in the country for many years and has been working and contributing to American society

should be treated the same as someone who came into the country illegally or overstayed their visa and they've been here for a few months a few years. I just think there's some nuance in that issue that's kind of being thrown out the window. However, his argument about the value of being an American citizen is important to just weigh in on here. I agree with him. I think that American citizenship is devalued to some extent. I do find it incredibly problematic that we do not have any laws right now preventing dual citizens from serving in Congress or in government roles. So when I say dual citizen,

I'm not just talking about individuals who have American citizenship and Israeli citizenship or Israel citizenship. I'm talking about anyone who is serving in the federal government, anyone who's a public servant period, having dual citizenship because it's a conflict of interest. It's not that difficult. So for me, that would be the priority. If you're an ordinary private American and you have dual citizenship, I actually think he's making a pretty strong argument here. But I'm willing to look the other way when it comes to ordinary private Americans having dual citizenship.

But when it comes to public servants, that's an entirely different question, entirely. You can't have that conflict of interest. And by the way, I also agree, if you are willing to serve in a foreign government military, but unwilling to serve in our own military, it's a little suss, little suss. So I also agree with him on that. You're either, you either have a stake in the game or not. You either want to improve this country, fight for this country, protect this country, or not. You can't have that type of conflict of interest playing a role in how you behave. Again, if you're willing to go fight in a foreign government's military, but not our

own. I just find that so strange. So I think he makes a strong case there as well. And finally, look, he wants to kind of clear the record on Christianity, and he wants Christians to get their theology right, as he puts it. So I want to go to the last video and then we'll end here. And the last thing that I think we need to do to restore balance between the relationship between the United States and Israel and to restore some sanity to the public conversation on this topic is to get our theology right.

And this is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews. This is a message aimed at Christians who are the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. And their view of Israel is colored not just by a sentimental attachment, which is fine or trips to Israel. Great, no problem.

But by a Christian heresy, the oldest of the Christian heres which is that God somehow prefers some people based on their DNA and of course the whole point of Christianity is that that is no longer true that there is no chosen people the chosen people are people who choose Jesus

that is the Christian message right there it's not an anti-Semitic message by the way so look there's obviously a huge disagreement when it comes to evangelicals who are Christian Zionists versus, you know, the type of Christians that I grew up with who didn't believe in what Christian Zionists believe and didn't believe in this weird apocalyptic outcome where there's a second coming of Christ and anyone who's Jewish and converted to Christianity will be saved. Anyone who refuses to do so will will burn an eternal damnation.

I wasn't taught any of that stuff when I was going to Sunday school growing up. And yes, I was raised Christian. And so that storyline of evangelical Christians being utilized and exploited in a way to benefit the foreign country of Israel is something that Tucker Carlson takes issue with. And I totally agree with him on that. Now, I'm not a practicing Christian anymore. So if you are a practicing Christian, you fall in the camp of Tucker Carlson. totally get the frustration of religion being used in a cynical way to support a foreign country, even as they engage in some of the most unchristian behavior you can imagine,

including the slaughtering of innocent people in the West Bank in Gaza and Lebanon and other countries as well in the Middle East. Let's keep it real. Look, I don't have any hatred in my heart for Israelis. I don't even have hatred in my heart for Israel's government. I have a lot of anger over the fact that Americans are forced to support what the current Israeli government is carrying out. And they are in fact carrying out atrocities in genocide. And the fact that Americans are forced to be complicit in that is an injustice. I have a huge problem with that.

So does Tucker Carlson and I'm grateful that he's speaking out against it because I know all too well that you pay a price in speaking out against it. But if you love this country and you want what's best for Americans first and foremost, you do have to reevaluate our relationship and our alliance with Israel. Is it actually beneficial to the American people? Tucker Carlson doesn't think so, and neither do I. And this might be the first time in my career, in my adult life, where I've seen unity and strong agreement between members of the left and right.

Something to consider. I just want the atrocities to stop. I want the public humiliation of the Americans to end. I want us to stop taking orders from any foreign government, period. And I don't think that's too much to ask for. I don't think that makes you a bad person. Well, let me know what you think. Share your comments.

Because there's a group of people in this country who think having these views, having these views is just deeply hateful and anti-Semitic. I disagree. I think this has to do with the foreign government that is using our resources and their alliance with the United States government to carry out atrocities that we would not stand for if it was any other ally doing the same. All right, we got to take a break. When we come back, Jank Yugar joins us for the second hour.

And we'll talk about how we're barreling toward war with Iran. I'm going to be. Buhl. Buh. Buh. B'i. I don't know. I'm going to be able to be.