The Young Turks - McGurk the McJerk - October 5, 2026

Episode Date: October 6, 2026

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I don't want to say Armageddon, but, I don't want to say end times, okay, but things are going really badly. So let me explain a couple things that are going to be on today's show that goes along with that theme. So number one, we have yet another mysterious death around the Epstein files, yet someone else committed suicide.

Did they? We'll explore. Genocidal intent by more Israeli politicians saying it out loud, incredible tape, we'll show that to you later. And guys, you see already just in those two stories, two stories you'll never see in traditional media, verified by 100% evidence, facts, et cetera. And they're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We would never show you anything that hurts beloved Israel.

Well, then you're not news. So welcome to one of the very, very few news programs in the country. country. Now we got more. On top of all that, you got AI lobbying. Are they trying to get regulated or are they not? What are they doing to scheme themselves into a higher advantage in Washington, which is just like every other lobby group, except they might kill all of us. And if all of this doom and gloom wasn't enough, the plague has broken out again, this time in Russia. Allegedly. Like, we'll get into the details on that. We're gonna get into the details, we're gonna give you the evidence.

Did you know that the plague is actually easily treatable? I did, yeah. No, I didn't know that before, but as I was reading all these stories, I was like, oh, okay. Let me just put it this way, based on the way that Russian institutions and hospitals are behaving, I would venture to say that this is not the plague, that this is something more serious. So we'll talk about that. Oh, more serious than the plague. Okay, so things weren't disastrous enough.

I don't want to alarm anybody, but I'll give you the details and the facts as we know them at this moment. In other words, we'll alarm you later. All right, let's get started. And there appeared to be unquestioning U.S. support for Israel and providing military support to Israel. Let me bring you into the Oval Office and kind of in a scene in which I think encapsulates this very issue. You felt the U.S. was putting more value on those lives than the Israeli government did? Do you skip the younger women, start talking about older men, keep the ceasefire, or say, no, you broke the deal? President Biden told Bibi Netanyahu, the prime minister, that he could, in theory, cut Israel from military aid at a finger snap, leaving Israel on its own.

You think I'm Santa Claus, no Santa and Israel pal? Yeah. But he didn't. So that is Brett McGark. He is the top Middle East advisor for Joe Biden. And he's partly responsible for the genocide. So he's trying to launder his reputation. So what we're going to show you is his comments and then show you how ridiculous those

lies are as he continues to pretend there was nothing we could do as he enabled a genocide. We should never let monsters like that back into office. But Anna's got the whole story for you. You know, McGirk is the type of person that you can think of when people are discussing the problems with the so-called deep state. Now, he might not be all that deep within the deep state, but at the end of the day, he was an unelected individual who actually served through various administrations, both Democrat and Republican administrations, and has been meddling in foreign policy decisions for many,

many years. And that includes, by the way, national security positions under President's George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden. So if you're wondering, why is it that as much as things change, it seems like everything stays the same, people like Brett McGirk are front and center in ensuring that our foreign policy remains consistent, regardless of who's in charge. Can I just jump in real quick on that? So Ken Paxton recently got caught on tape saying, well, look, I can't run this campaign.

They're running it for me in Washington. And people aren't positive what he's referring to. But I think it's tied in a tangential way to this story. There is a permanent bureaucracy in Washington. Yes. And I have talked to people who have run at the very, very highest levels. And they all say the same thing. Well, I wanted to do X, but I couldn't.

They had me do Y instead. Who is they? Brett McGirk is part of the they. Yes, part of the deep state, the permanent bureaucracy that says it doesn't matter what you said you were gonna do for the voters, it doesn't matter what you think, you will do this. And so let's go back to his lies. And let's just be very clear about one thing before we move forward with the lies that he thinks the American people are going to buy. He enabled Israel and its genocide against the Palestinian people every step of the way when it comes to the

Biden administration, every step of the way. Now, as we shared with you last week, new book came out crossing the red line, which discusses various figures, including McGirk within the Biden administration who enabled the genocide, who actually worked against securing a ceasefire. And it was illuminating. So now McGurk is trying to clean up his reputation a little bit. And you shouldn't trust him, you shouldn't believe him because he's everything that was detailed in that book. With that in mind, just to give you a sense of how poor his judgment was, here's his explanation for why the Biden administration allowed a ceasefire with Hamas to unravel, which made it real difficult to secure the release of all the hostages. Take a look.

About a month into the war, we had we had a deal with Hamas. Not easy. I described what it was like to get for all women and children. It's very clear. All women and children hostages are going to come out. And in exchange for a number of Palestinian prisoners. And we had a ceasefire for eight days. And about 100 hostages came out. Three of those women that did not come out. Because on the eighth day, Hamas said, we're not going to release the younger women, actually. We release the young toddlers like Abigail, the young American girl. We release the 80-year-old grandmothers. We're going to hold on to the younger women.

They said we can't find them, which was completely true. Was some part of the excuse that they were of military age, too? No, they said some. They claimed that. But they said, let's keep the ceasefire and talk about the older men. And in the book, I go through this night. Midnight here in Washington, December 1st, and it's a moral quandary. And this is what a hostage taker does.

Hamas is good as Iran is, their masters at this. They put the moral onus on the other side. Do you skip the younger women, start talking about older men, keep the ceasefire, or say, no, you broke the deal. Let me tell you something about running a merch store. If you're thinking about launching your own business, you need to do it now before Black Friday. Because that's when more people are already shopping and ready to buy. The extra online traffic is real.

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The women that he was referring to there were of course part of the IDF. And so whether they're women or men, it doesn't matter. The Hamas militants saw them as part of Israel's war against the Palestinian people. Like civilians are obviously different from members of the military. But even if you take what McGurk says at face value there, even if you believe what you believe what he says there. What do you do? What do you mean? So you end this, you allow Israel, you allow the ceasefire to unravel, meaning that more innocent people are going to die, which I know McGurk doesn't care about at all. They're Palestinians after all. But more importantly,

how do you secure the release of the very hostages you claim you care so deeply about if you allow the ceasefire to fall apart over that disagreement, right? So he asks himself that same question in that video. He's like, what do you do? I don't know, you do everything you can to get the hostages out and to end the genocide, but he didn't do that, did he? Yeah, so it's actually worse than that because so the IDF has women serving in it. Good, fine, no problem, like that policy in general for any country.

But then you can't then turn around and go, I can't. I can't believe they took innocent little girls. No, no, they took girls, they returned them, as McGirk actually explained, right? The young girls. And they should have never taken them in the first place, everybody's right to complain about that. But now all of a sudden, he framed Hamas saying, we are going to let other civilians go instead of the idea of soldiers who in those cases were women. Who they see as legitimate military targets.

Yeah, so wait a minute. And they are legitimate military targets. You can't destroy a country and oppress it and occupy it and then say you're not allowed to attack my military. No, the Palestinians have every justification for attacking Israel's military. I mean, if you think that's out of bounds, well, you know what's out of bounds? Occupying them for 60 straight years. People have a right to defend themselves. Yes.

So now they've turned the truth on its head and they say, oh, Hamas wanted to let the civilians go. You see how evil they are? Instead, we wanted our soldiers back. Wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense. You should let the civilians go first. But really, the underlying lie there, guys, is that Hamas didn't want to break the deal. Israel wanted to break the deal. And how do you know I'm telling the truth? Because Israel then broke the ceasefire hundreds of times to kill thousands of Palestinians. And every time a new excuse all the way up until today.

Now Hamas has let all of the hostages go, including all the IDF soldiers, female and male, and Israel is still murdering the Palestinians in Gaza. And what's their new excuse? First of all, they don't need one. They just go, we bought your Congress, you serve us, shut up, and you'll do as you're told. But they bother sometimes to give an excuse to Barack Ravid, who makes it a headline. Well, yeah, they returned the hostages, but they didn't give up every gun and every weapon in Gaza. And so that our gangs that we have swarming all over Gaza can run it unabated. And they haven't turned over every rock and every stone and every stick.

And now, by the way, I'm not joking, we covered on the show earlier. They are now complaining about children's kites and balloons. Yeah, they think that in Gaza. Those are the big weapons. Yes. I mean, McGirk knows all that. And McGirk knows that the Israelis break every ceasefire. And by the way, also have 10,000.

Palestinian hostages and they won't return them and they have them in their torture gulags. But McGurk makes it seem like, ah, Hamas, they wanted to release the civilians. So poor Israel had no choice but to go back to bombing them and bombing them and murdering their babies. Oh, poor Israel. Why? Because he works for Israel. Almost everyone in Washington works for Israel.

There, I solved it for you. By the way, that interview with its foe. So tough questions in the middle, like, it's a mattering of like, well, is it true? Couldn't he have cut off aid? Hey, look, I'll take it the first time that's been asked, right? Like first time in American media where somebody goes, couldn't we just cut the aid? Like that's like, because it's shocking. Why is that shocking?

But Jake, look at the way she framed her challenging question to McGurk in that very video that we just showed you all. She says, wasn't the other excuse that they were women of military age? 100%. No, that's an excuse. That's an excuse, it's not an excuse. There is a difference between civilians and combatants, civilians and militants, civilians and members of the IDF.

There's obviously a difference there. Yeah. She knows it. So you're absolutely right, Jank. She wants to ask the tough challenging questions, right? Like she wants the credit of asking a tough question without actually asking the hard question. And it's actually worse than that, and that's why I brought it up.

Because the politicians in the mainstream media play this game together. It's coordinated theater. So she does the faux tough question, but she lets him do 100% propaganda, doesn't challenge any of his lies, almost all his answers were lies. And then by the end, the audience is left with like, colleague, gee, there was nothing that Israel could do or Joe Biden or McGirk could do. The genocide just happened on its own, and it was all the Palestinians fault. There's no way that you come away from that interview thinking anything but that. At the end, she probably got high-fived by the producers and probably got a race.

100%. Okay, but let me just say one other thing about this. How are you going to blame Hamas for everything, even in this late date? Like if I were in McGirk's shoes and I were an honest actor, he's not. But let's say, you know, he's trying to present himself as an honest actor. An honest actor would sit there and say, you know what? We were deceived. We bought Israel's lies, hook, line, and sinker, because look at what they're doing in the West Bank now, where Hamas doesn't exist. Hamas doesn't govern the West Bank. But here's the thing, early on, After October 7th, what did we see in the West Bank? We saw members of the Israeli government handing out Kalishnikovs to these terrorists,

these settlers who are terrorists, so they can rain terror on Palestinians in the West Bank, who had absolutely nothing to do with October 7th. Their aims were clear from the very beginning. And so I'm just not buying this lie that, oh, the Biden administration was trying to do the right thing. And it was just Hamas, it was Hamas. It was Hamas. No mention of the poison pills that Israel would inject in the ceasefire negotiations in the last minute after they had made all these demands. Hamas agrees the demand, agrees with the demands.

We think that the ceasefire is about to happen. And then Israel comes back in and says, no, actually we didn't demand something else that was considered a poison pill to ensure that the negotiations fall apart. That happened over and over and over and over again. Here's the irony of this interview. He's going on to defend himself that he wasn't working for the Israelis as he does propaganda for the Israelis in this interview. 100% yes, exactly. So let's get to another portion of this interview which was infuriating.

So the Biden administration ensured that they continued sending the bomb, sending the military aid to the Israelis, even when it had become abundantly clear that there were war crimes being committed over and over again. And so Margaret Brennan decides to ask Brett McGurk, Biden's Middle East advisor, why? Why was the aid still flowing to Israel despite the fact that they were committing war crimes with American bombs? Let's take a look at what McGurk had to say about that. We had a horrific airstrike from the Israelis that killed nine aid workers with World Central Kitchen, Jose Andres. An Israeli drum. which was so horrific.

And so we have a call between Biden and Netanyahu, and Biden is just like completely fed up. And at the same time, however, Iran is planning to launch, we have intelligence that Iran is about to launch a massive ballistic missile drone attack directly against Israel, which is totally unprecedented. And which if those missiles get through, you're talking about thousands of casualties. If not for that, I think on that, at that moment,

I think we would have taken some pretty draconian measures against Israel. Really? Yeah, I do not. Draconian how? Well, I think we would have. You just mentioned cutting off weapons and other things. That was very much on the table, but also at that time in April, Congress, by part, massive, by partisan majority, approved a $26 billion aid package for Israel, right, in April, right, in that moment. But the focus very, very much, quickly shifts to how do we defend Israel from this from this missile attack. It ended up being 120 ballistic missiles, 170 drones, 30 cruise missiles all

launched to land at the same time. Okay, so let's talk about what Brett McGurk conveniently left out of that portion of the discussion and Margaret Brennan, a journalist, allowed him to do it. So what happened in April of that year? What preceded the Iranians launching that missile attack? Oh, that's right, it was the Israelis bombing the Iranian embassy in Damascus, Syria, okay? They provoked the Iranians hoping that it would lead to or provoke a war, which is what Netanyahu has been wanting for literally decades. But you wanna know what the Iranians did, they're smarter than that.

So they had to retaliate to save face with their citizens. to show we're not going to just allow this to happen. We're not going to take this sitting down. We're going to do something in response. But they didn't want any casualties because they didn't want to spark a war. So they hit up the West, including the United States, and let the US know we are planning to retaliate at this time in this way, basically giving us enough time to prepare to shoot down the missiles.

There wasn't a single casualty from those airstrikes. It was again done to save face with the Iranian people. And the reason why it happened wasn't just because the Iranians are evil and it came out of nowhere. The Israelis bombed the Iranian embassy in Damascus. How come that wasn't mentioned at all in the context of this interview? Yeah, so look guys, if you watch that interview, you would have never known that. And so what you would have walked away with is the impression that the Iranians for no reason at all, because they're vicious terrorist Muslim savages.

Right. decided to destroy Israel out of the blue. And we had to rush in to help Israel. Now look, whenever people are interviewing Donald Trump, you remember that period of time when it was like a big thing to fact check him? If you don't fact check them, then you're doing more damage by allowing, by platforming him and all that stuff, right? But they never fact check the establishment ever, ever, ever.

And they think that's normal in mainstream media, right? So if McGurk makes it seem like the Iranians attacked Israel, for no reason, even though Israel had attacked first, and the Iranians had done the attack in a neutered kind of way to make sure nobody got hurt. Margaret Brennan is not going to tell you. Nope. Because if she told you, then you wouldn't believe McGurk's lie. And the whole point of the interview is to make it seem like there's a challenge and a reporter

asking a politician questions and, you know, hey, what do you say about this? But she knows the answers he's going to give. She's asking these generally softball questions. Some of the ones that are expected hardball questions, which he has perfectly prepared for. Never does a follow-up question, never gives you the actual context. And this has been the same my whole life. I remember when Dick Cheney went on Meet the Press with legendary reporter Tim Russert, right? And everybody loved Tim Russard, he's such a big reporter.

No, he was a total establishment hack. So Cheney says, he says, well, did Iraq attack us on 9-11? That's a good question. He says something akin to that. And then Cheney goes, well, they're in the same general region as the people who attacked us on 9-11. Oh, okay, okay, so that's a good reason to go to war against them. They're just in a general region. Now Tim Rosser has passed away now, but either was an ignoramus and didn't know.

No, Iraq was physically, literally opposed to al-Qaeda and Saddam would kill al-Qaeda people in Iraq. But he either is an ignorant who didn't know that or knew it, but wanted to hide it from the audience. So he never asked a follow-up question. Of course. And he let everybody think, oh, he asked, and Cheney said they're from the same area. So I guess it's Iraq that did it. And in fact, 70% of Americans when we attacked Iraq thought the Saddam Hussein had personally attacked us on 9-11. Because mainstream media set up a perfect little theater to make you believe that.

And why did all the politicians and all the media agree that we should attack a country that was opposed to Al-Qaeda? Not only didn't have anything to do with 9-11 or Al-Qaeda, but was opposed to Al-Qaeda. Because they wanted to do it for Israel. And they all love Israel, and they knew that Israel had said that Iraq was their number one enemy, so they had to lie you into that war. And then they said they learned their lessons, but magically we would come to Iraq. Iran, the same exact fake weapons of mass destruction, also given to us by Israeli intelligence,

the same nonstop funding of Israel and nonstop fighting of their wars, and we have Margaret Brennan doing the same exact trick. It'll be different this type, Jake. It'll be different this time. It's not like Iraq, it'll be different, except it's exactly the same. And in fact, the consequences to the American people on the global economy has been far worse. But I want to get to the second part of this portion of their discussion, because believe it or not,

actually gets worse. You're about to hear some of Biden's tough talk toward Netanyahu and McGurk's reaction to it. Take a look. On the World Central Kitchen event, because people remember that. There was outrage around that. You wrote that President Biden told Bibi Netanyahu, the prime minister that he could, in theory, cut Israel from military aid at a finger snap, leaving Israel on its own. You think I'm Santa Claus, no Santa and Israel pal? Yeah. But he didn't. He didn't cut. Well, I mean, we- Did he actually mean that as a threat? We selectively, we talked about it in that, in the Oval Office around that time. We selectively, after that call, the president stopped all sales and deliveries of heavy payload munitions, 2,000 pound bombs.

We stopped. Well, he delayed them, ultimately. We didn't deliver them, and we didn't approve any other sales. President Trump reversed that immediately after coming into office. No, he delayed them. He delayed them. Eventually, the 2,000 pound bombs landed in the hands of the Israelis who were committing genocide in Gaza and terrorizing Palestinians in the West Bank, which had nothing to do with October 7th. And he is also correct in noting that any type of, you know, red flag in regard to the 2,000 pound bombs to Israel, those were completely lifted by Donald Trump.

But like, listen, I love how we're acting as though the 2,000 pound bombs are like the end-all be-all. Israel was leveling Gaza, okay? Nothing the Biden administration did served as a hindrance to the genocidal intent and the the genocidal goals of the Israelis. So I'm not really interested in trying to parse out like, oh, was it a delay? Was it a ban? It doesn't matter.

The Biden administration aided and abetted genocide. The man that you see on your screen, Pat McGirk loved it, continues to love it, continues to provide excuses for it or cover for it. And I'm sorry, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. You want to genocide people. You're not gonna be spoken about favorably, okay? piece of garbage. And the consistency from one administration to another, regardless of political leanings, is caused by people like Brett McGirk. Okay, why did Biden keep him? Why did Trump keep him?

Yeah, it's worse than that. And why did Bush have him? Why did Obama have him? They, oh, look at that. Both parties love McGirk, who loves Israel and will serve Israel loyally under all administrations. By the way, you think that if you elect a corporate Democrat, McGirk won't be back into office? No, he'll be right back to controlling our policy on Israel, which means to say that we are not going to control our own policy. He's going to call his counterpart in Israel and said, what are my new orders? What am I to do next? And so I'm not exaggerating. And here, I'll prove it with his own words here. So he says, oh, well, the 2000 problems wouldn't send him. But if you noticed earlier, he said, well, with huge bipartisan

support, we passed $26 billion in new aid. What kind of to Israel, military aid, more bombs, more weapons. Now what he didn't tell you is Biden helped pass that bill. He pushed for it. Biden constantly would do speeches. I am a proud Zionist. We have to help Israel in its time of need. And now the unspoken part was they haven't finished the genocide.

There are tens of thousands of more children to kill. We have to help my beloved Israel. By the way, my number one lifetime donor, more money to buy. from the Israeli lobby than any other lobby, but Margaret Brennan, you wouldn't want to point that out. And in fact, if somebody points that out, they go, oh, how dare you and try to destroy them? So, okay, so now McGurk says, well, okay, we gave him $26 billion. And he said, well, we were, but we did think about having draconian measures against Israel. So why didn't you do it?

Well, you know, then there's Iran attack after Israel attacked their embassy. Then they had the excuse that Iran was going to counter attack, which allowed them to negate the ceasefire. And any measures we might take against them. Big go. Oh, look at that. Huh, interesting. But wait, Brett, any reasonable journalists would have asked, why didn't you do it after? I mean, you had all of this time.

And you say, well, you know, we had that one moment where we were considering measures against Israel. But we just couldn't go back to it. I mean, golly gee, our attention, we lost attention, we lost focus. What's your excuse for never going back to it as the genocide and the slaughter continued? There is no excuse. There is no excuse. All they're doing here is covering their ass, both of them. But okay.

One more thing, yeah. This show, okay, think of it as a soprano style laundromat, okay, where the criminal The mobsters would use the laundromat to clean their money. Margaret Brennan isn't in the business of informing the American public of the truth. She, along with other corporate media hacks, are in the business of laundering the reputations of the worst war criminals in our own country. That's what she's in the business of doing. And I hope she knows that.

Yeah. So look, by the way, just coincidentally, right before the show I put out a Post on X saying, Almost every genocide scholar on earth has called this a genocide, and every human rights group, including Israeli human rights group, have called it a genocide. The only people who haven't called it a genocide are American news anchors. So I issue to challenge, will there be a single television anchor in America that calls it a genocide? When the whole planet knows that it's a genocide, or do all of them work for Israel? Because there's no reason not to call it a genocide unless you actively want to help Israel

commit further genocide so you'd like to cover up their war crimes. And that's what they're all doing right now. They're genocide enablers, not just the McGurks of the world, but all the so-called reporters and the news actors on television. So last thing, he says in that interview, it's, you know, might seem like a small thing, but I think it really reveals a frame of mind. When Brennan asked them, well, you know, after they did all this, did you talk about being tougher on that?

And he said, we talked about it as if he was like really proud that in the White House they had a conversation about should we hold Israel accountable. They ultimately decided no, we should never hold Israel accountable. In fact, we should reward them by sending them $26 billion. But we had a conversation about it. The fact that he brags about that shows you the degree to which Israel is. has utter control in Washington, where someone who is the top advisor to the president in the Middle East has to brag that he had the courage to have a conversation about whether they

should cut back Israel's funding in the middle of a genocide. And he's like, we talked about it. What more could we do? I mean, what if the Israelis found out we were talking about it and all of our livelihood was cut off and we were persona non grata in Washington? I love going to the cocktail parties. I love all the money I get from the lobbying, and I love all the corruption that I have. And I dared, I dared to talk about challenging Israel.

You see how Israel's not in control? Yeah, for real. No, I see how they're so thoroughly in control that that guy thinks it's a big brag to say he once considered like not giving Israel every single thing they wanted, but then of course decided to guess. I mean, I told my doctor, look, I thought about lowering my cholesterol. I did actually do it, but isn't that good enough? Anyway, we gotta take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about another snake, this one in the tech industry.

Sam Altman says, look, AI is gonna really destroy you, but you should accept it and support it anyway. We'll be right back. All right, so let's start with YouTube members this time. We, Fem, writes in, you all are keeping me going during the these awful times, thank you for staying strong. We appreciate it. Look, you're either going to get the real news or you're not. And we, even though the times are depressing, we try not to make it depressing. You should vent your rage. That is a good human emotion to have when confronted with something like this. But then, you know, I love that we have this positive

community then and we want to try to do something about it as we go along. All right, so Sugar Gilder, Chieftain says, for thousands of years, Israel had Christians, Jews, and Islam, people now? You know, they say, oh, the Muslims, the savages. Well, the Muslims ran Jerusalem and Palestine. Jews, Christians and Muslims could live there in peace. Now Israel has it, and Israel murders anyone who's Muslim or Christian and steals their land.

So that's why I had a guy from Jordanian American the other day telling me like, now we're wishing the Turks came back. That's how bad it is. Old school pundit said, I'm sorry. school pundit said, I'm starting to really hope for Turkish intervention. Well, here we go again. Spontaneously in Syria, then UN might help Gaza and Lebanon. No, the UN won't help anyone because America will block it because Israel will order them to. Turkish intervention is super messy, so I don't even want to get into that.

Partisan hypocrites everywhere says, wait, why is this my responsibility as a person who pays taxes and owes allegiance to America? Of course, it's not your responsibility, but every liar in TV tells you owe Israel. You better serve Israel. otherwise you're an anti-Semite. How dare you care about America or your own family? That's why they're propaganda agents. Dobbs, Eir says, they think they can just take out leaders of other countries and then cry when those countries retaliate. Yeah, that sounds like Israelis and Americans.

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I know I do. Let's go to our next story. Where do you specifically diverge from Anthropic and its pro-regulation CEO, Dario, when it comes to new AI rules? Where's the daylight? I think there's a lot of daylight. We have always been a big believer that this technology has to be democratized and put in people's hands. I think one of the biggest differences between us and some of the stricter, let's say, AI safety people, is we believe that the world's should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of this technology and people having the

agencies. Like you should accept some bad things happening to you, but there are upsides like Sam Altman becoming a billionaire and maybe a trillionaire. So you should learn how to live with the downsides of it. Anna has the whole story. So this was during an interview with Politico and Open AI CEO Sam Altman basically made it clear that he is very aware of. AI technology potentially harming the human race.

And he thinks you should accept it. Doesn't really explain why, but let me get to the detail. So here's what you should know. Open AI has pushed for less regulation on the technology, while its main rival, Anthropic, has publicly called for more regulations. But Open AI has slightly changed its tune after the Hugging Tree breach, I'm sorry,

by hugging face breach apologies. And if you're unfamiliar with that, it was basically when Altman's AI agents basically escaped their testing to access the internet and breach hugging face, which is a different AI model. And explosive testimony by AI whistleblowers is something that has kind of shrouded or surrounded the AI industry, and in particular, Sam Altman. So Open AI is now supporting some very, some very, some. Very light regulations, nothing too heavy.

He wants to be unhindered by government regulations. He wants to just go for it. But this is kind of consistent with a statement that he made all the way back in 2015. Take a quick look at this. I think AI will probably, like most likely sort of lead to the end of the world. But in the meantime, there will be great companies created with serious machine learning. So there he is. In 2015, he was admitting that AI is going to have some significant, dangerous downsides,

but don't worry about it. I mean, we should go for it anyway. And he has, he's gone for it anyway. So let's hear Altman explain why he believes more regulation is harmful to AI or harmful moving forward in developing this technology. Take a look. I disagree, but I understand the perspective of people who are like this technology is going to get so powerful and it's so dangerous.

that a single lab in San Francisco should have it and make sure nothing bad happens and kind of figure out the benefits. I think that is a completely unacceptable tradeoff from a perspective of liberty and human agency and people self-determining the future. But I understand where it comes from. And I do think the lighter touch regulatory stance that we advocate for comes with an accepting of the fact that some bad things are going to happen as society figures out the resilience. So I wouldn't take a trade of saying, like, we'll make sure there's no major hacks. There's no kind of misuse of this technology. There's zero scams. There's zero.

All the other bad things that will happen because I think people will do tremendously. Or does it matter of nature more good stuff than bad stuff? Why? Why do you think that? I totally disagree. Like, no one asked for this. Yeah. No one asked for this.

We don't need this. We didn't ask. for this? Like it's just, explain to me again what the benefit to the human race is. Do we really need this? Like no one's really made a case about that. Oh, AI is going to cure cancer. Is it? Is it really? How is it going to cure cancer?

Explain that to me. Yeah. So anyway. So I think the answer is in the videos we just showed, right? So he talked about in 2015 about like, oh, this could end humanity, but a lot of good companies will be created in the meanwhile. Oh, thank God, okay, so it's not about curing cancer. So it's about concentrating more wealth among people like Sam Altman. And since then, that's exactly what's happened.

A lot of giant companies, including his own, that are worth combined trillions of dollars, have been created. And that's why I keep saying this reminds me of exactly the movie, don't look up, where they're like, yeah, we might all die from that meteor, but there's trillions of dollars worth of minerals there. and the billionaires really want to get it because if they get it, they'll be even wealthier. Yes, but what's the good for us? He doesn't even try to make that case, Jake.

That's the thing. Anna, but he is. They don't even try. Coffee is for closers. This guy doesn't even try. He basically is telling the global population, this is going to be bad, but you should accept it anyway. And what he's saying is actually, what I'm arguing is slightly worse.

He's implicitly saying, yes, it's going to be bad for all of you. I mean, even if it doesn't destroy humanity, you're gonna lose your jobs. A lot of you are gonna lose your jobs and it's gonna be catastrophic consequences for you. But it's gonna be good for some people like me. That's basically what he's saying. He's saying like I'm getting super rich, all my friends in Silicon Valley are getting super rich. So it has some upsides and downsides and for us, the upsides are much larger. We're gonna be spectacularly wealthy before we all die.

And look, to be fair to him, he didn't say AI is going to wipe out the human race or you're all going to die. He didn't, he didn't draw these catastrophic conclusions about the downside of AI. But still, he is conceding there will be downsides to people, generally speaking, with the exception of the people who are in charge of this. And you should accept it anyway, because, like there was never any argument. Anna, he has alluded to catastrophic harm in the past. You're right about what he's saying today. In the interview, in the interview I'm talking about. But again, when he says, for example, AI is going to democratize things.

Wait a minute. What does that even mean? So I'm gonna break that down because it doesn't make any sense. Everybody's saying we don't want your stinking data centers. If we were democratized, we wouldn't have those data centers. And we wouldn't have the lobbyists of AI swarming into these elections and trying to buy off our politicians. No, what he means is democratizing the cost. Of course.

So Sam, are we gonna democratize the profits? No, we're not, are we? And why do they want even light regulation? Because that's not a thing that people usually ask for. Because Sam Altman has made the case in the past. If you even slightly regulate me, well, then if I have a problem, you're the insurer of last resort. What that means is I know I'm going to go bankrupt at some point because we're all lying about how much money we're gonna make.

And when we go under, I need you to bail me out. And I need you to remember that I asked for light regulation. So now it's on the government and it's their responsibility because they regulated me. By the way, what is inconvenient for him is that they haven't. No one's regulated him. Trump hasn't regulated him. We'll get back into that in a second. But by the way, here's the other question.

You're gonna make a lot of money or you're making revenue. Like, how are you gonna make the profits that they claim they're gonna make to justify the fact that they're severely over leverage, like in so much debt, right? They've taken out so much debt in order to pursue this technology. When you have admitted yourself the whole point of the development of this technology is so employers don't have to deal with human labor anymore. Human labor will be an antiquated concept. Where are you going to make your money? People have no money. They've lost their jobs because of this wonderful technology. Who buys your technology? Where does the money come from? Like none of this makes any effing sense, at all.

I'm gonna double down on that. Literally no one has explained and and have hardly ever been asked. Right. Okay, so when at least to 10%, which is a guaranteed 10% unemployment, but likely 25% unemployment leading to the worst depression we have ever seen probably worse than the Great Depression of the 1930s, what's your plan then? They always say like if even tangentially mention, they'll be like, oh no, we're gonna have robots so you, none of you have to work and you all live in Shangri-La and do whatever you want and all become painters. Yeah, even if that word of that ridiculous fantasy were to be true, that happens 25, 50 years from now. What happens in the meanwhile? What happens when we're all unemployed, but we don't all have personal robots taking care of all of our needs? Which how to hell we're gonna afford anyway? And wait, are they gonna give them out if they are?

How are they gonna make money? If they can't make money, why are they worth trillions? None of this makes any sense. And to answer your question, Anna, whenever they're asked, yes, but what's in it for us? What's good for us? They never have an answer for that other than, oh yeah? If China develops it first, it'll be even worse for you. Always, always.

And instead of being our slaves, you'll be China's slaves. Is that what you want? No, I want you to explain to me how. any of this helps us other than making you more spectacularly wealthy. What the hell is the upside? China! You get to Palestine. Wait, no, that's a different fearmongery.

But there's always got to be some demigrantrogy. There's always a foreign boogeymen that we need to be worried about. So give up your rights. Give up your rights. Give up, give up, you know, anything that makes this society even remotely bearable to live in. And one last thing from what you've already shown, which is you see the false choice he set up there, which was, oh, so I guess we could have a single lab in San Francisco that controls everything in everyone's lives. Or we could do light regulation.

Is that the only two choices? Yeah, and he never gets into specifics. You see how those tricks are an illusion? Well, I mean, I don't want Big Brother controlling me from a single lab in San Francisco. So I guess I agree with Sam Altman. No, there are a million other answers between Sam Altman's. I get super rich and you all suffer and a single lab in San Francisco. So finally, I just want to talk a little bit about the tech money pouring into the purchase

of our politicians, the political prostitutes on the street corner. So according to reporting from the New York Times, political groups aligned with the two leading AI developers, Open AI and Anthropic, have quietly but decisively intervened in key 2026 races, spending on campaign advertising and outreach to voters to the tune of $55.7 million. Our political system is a complete and utter joke, especially with all the corruption, literally baked in, legalized. The Times describes leading the future as open AI aligned. Another super PAC known as Public First is Anthropic Aligned.

They have boosted candidates to align with their agendas. or who align with their agendas, of course, help defeat those they see as hostile to it and ingratiated themselves with frontrunners who are likely to be in positions of power in the next Congress to make decisions critical to their bottom lines. Also, something to keep in mind, but with voters quickly souring on the industry, including demanding that lawmakers do more to regulate AI and halt or mitigate the proliferation of data, centers, they have taken pains to obscure their involvement, right? So it's the same thing that A-PAC is doing. They worked really hard to obscure their involvement, especially in regard to the

Thomas Massey race. And so when they were paying for ads to promote Thomas Massey's Challenger, what they leaned into were fake allegations that like Massey was in bed with like progressive Democrats and all that. They didn't actually talk about the Israel issue. And it's a similar culture that you're seeing coming from the tech industry as it pertains to AI. With few exceptions, they have intervened without ever explicitly mentioning AI or data centers in the TV and digital ads they have purchased. Yeah. So one of our conservative members rode in on Superchat, make it make sense, said, guys, I get it, we didn't ask for AI. We also didn't ask for electricity cars,

computer, internet, smartphones, or YouTube. I think we can all agree that good from those are greater than the bat. So that's true, but it was easy to make that case. Yeah. Make the case for AI. Considering the possible downsides, what are the upsides that significantly outweigh the downsides? Because I don't see it. Yeah, so look, there's two things that I wanted to say and answer that.

First of all, I love when we get challenged and, you know, we- Yeah, it's great. Because we want to have a discussion over. We don't want to like, you know, straw man things and we don't want to just present one side. So I love that you're participating in the show. So look, number one, it's one thing to say, hey, my product is going to be a good product, and it's going to have some downsides. Smartphones have some downsides.

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Smartphones is not likely to end the world. YouTube not likely to end the world, but forget ending the world. Even if we never get into those catastrophic things, 10% unemployment, 25% unemployment already catastrophic, a global depression already catastrophic. And there was no way that a smartphone or YouTube was going to do that. So that's part of the discussion. But more importantly, in my opinion, is what our job is to expose to you guys a couple of things.

One is what's happening behind the scenes? In this case, their open AI poured a lot of money into politics and into, the kids. these electoral campaigns. Why? Because they didn't want to just leave it up to democracy. They wanted to make sure that they had legislators that were working for them. And in order to do that, they eliminated anyone who would be opposed to AI or just wanted to simply regulate AI to be careful, right, and to look out for American citizens. So they spent a ton of money to influence our politics to go in their direction unnaturally, right? So now, even if your product is good, you shouldn't do that. You shouldn't be

allowed to do that. And then on top of that, then Anthropic came out and said, hey, and that's their biggest competitor, our product is super dangerous. We're not joking, we really do need regulation. And we need the government to step in here so we're not a runaway freight train. And Sam Altman and Open AI seemed to join that for a minute and Elon Musk. But then they looked around and they're like, well, we told them that our computer program went rogue and when invaded the Australian government's websites and private information and then attacked a bunch of American governmental organization, commerce department, the SEC, the education department, attacked another company. And they were probably waiting around like there's going to be

blowback, right? But what they don't, I guess they underestimated is how much the traditional media is in their back pocket. If you pay off traditional media, oh, they'll live for you, they'll make you into heroes and demigods, et cetera. So since there was no blowback, what Open AI is doing now, part of the reason for this interview is they're going back into, no, no, we don't want to be regulated, light regulation. I don't know why we said that about with Anthropic a week or two ago. No, we meant, no, just leave us alone. Let us rob the place blind.

And when we go broke, you're gonna bail us out. Everybody knows you're gonna bail us out. And why? Because we paid off to politicians. So the minute we have any kind of trouble, those politicians we purchase, will immediately come and rescue us with your money. Now do you want it? Hey, you got a great product, it's got some downsides. Have added hosts potentially, right? Unless the downsides are too catastrophic to us. But don't then rig the government and ask for extra advantages and

extra connections and to get bailed out and all of those things. And then pretend, oh, what's the big deal? No, no. Make it make sense, there's no cop on the beat. There's no one looking out for us. The government is openly hostile to the American people. That's what I'm concerned about. They are happy to allow the titans of industry to roll out technology that everyone knows is going to be detrimental to the existence of Americans in this country, existence of human beings across the globe. That's cause for concern to say the least. Let's take a break when we come back.

We'll talk about a whistleblower who drew attention to Lutniks, continue to relationship with Epstein found dead, alleged suicide, but was it? All right, let's go to X where we're broadcasting. Now, Rebecca Keller says, you lose me when you look to the government to solve the problem. They are the problem. Yes, Rebecca. They are though. No, no, no.

So this current government is a problem because it's so corrupt and it doesn't work for us. It works for the donors and robs is blind. But if, but the cops are the government, like with the military is the government. We need some degree of protection. The fire department is the government. Right? So just like the fire department and the cops, we're supposed to have people inside the government that do like our cops on the Wall Street beat, the white collar crime beat, the regulation beat so that they don't pour poison into your local lakes, etc. That's in essence

a form of being cops. And they're taking, they're defunding the police when it comes to white collar criminals and any corporate malfeasance. So that's what they're doing. And that's what we're looking out for. Tony Joyce writes in genocide sticks for life. Yeah, all of the the people who defended the genocide later will pretend that they weren't in favor of it, but they definitely were. I'll never forget. And that'll stay on that stench will stay on them for a long, long time and hopefully their whole lives.

At this late date, everyone on television, everyone is still denying the genocide. Maybe Ali Vell, she doesn't. And I don't know if there's a second person. Fernando G. Garcia says, guys, you need to look South Trump and associates interfering in all elections in South and Central America making business with drugs. dealers, big scandal since about three, four weeks. Fernando, you're right, we do need to cover that more. They are now after bombing fishermen and pretending it's because they were wanted to do the

war on drugs, they seem to be enabling drug dealers all across Latin America. Our government is such gigantic liar. So Rebecca, don't get a twisted. We know the evils of the government as well. What we need is a government that actually works for us and what the founding fathers designed. All right, back on you know church, Jen and Anna with you guys. I'm gonna read a couple of member comments here. Bud Roland one on YouTube said,

TYT is the voice of the human being. Thank you, that's pretty lofty, but we really appreciate all your guys support. If you wanna become a YouTube member and be part of the show, hit the join button below the video on YouTube. That not only helps us, we need it guys. So we are besieged by the Zionist network in this country, and we need you guys to basically carry us in this time.

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lots of innocent, billionaire Zionist victims in the country. Oh, yes. And okay, so anyways, drive them crazy by joining the young Turks and being one of us so they can't cancel the whole country. So like I said, either the join button below on YouTube or t.t.com slash join. All right, let's go to our next story. So Simon Andreas is a British whistleblower who blew the whistle on something really interesting. Howard Lutniks, our Commerce Department Chair, secretary, connection to Jeffrey Epstein. And then he wound up dead. We're told that it's a suicide, is it? Well, let's talk about those strange connections between Lucknick and Epstein so you can make up your mind for yourself. Anna. Well, before I begin with the details on

this story, let me just get everyone to be on the same page about something that keeps occurring when it comes to individuals who have either accused Epstein of wrongdoing, have been associates with Epstein who had been cooperating with authorities, or in this case, whistleblowers who are tying Lutnik to Epstein, basically blowing the whistle in regard to how long that relationship lasted, even though Lutnik said that he had cut off communications with Epstein. All these individuals keep dying of suicide specifically. Epstein himself died of suicide.

Okay, it's just maybe a giant coincidence, or maybe there's something fishy going on here. Now a lot of people think there's something fishy going on. Let me give you the details, you can decide for yourselves. So Simon Andries' reported suicide is just really the latest in a series of deaths among Epstein's associates. That includes accusers, sexual abuse perpetrators, investigators, and whistleblowers. So those who investigated or spoken up regarding Epstein and his high profile criminal network include French modeling agent Jean-Luc Brunel, who actually recruited.

the females that were abused allegedly by Epstein. He was found dead this last July, past July. Virginia Chufray, of course, one of Epstein's most prominent public accusers, died by suicide in April of 2025, and then Epstein himself, of course, allegedly died by suicide while in prison. While no official cause of Simon Andresa's death has been released, meaning how he allegedly took his own life, he had checked himself into a trauma treatment center,

shortly before his death. And a close associate of his by the name of Arthur Nidalny had claimed that Simon had told him that he was, quote, not doing great with his mental health and was having a crisis. So I want to make sure you have all the details. Now in one of his final posts on X, Simon Andries wrote the following. The personal consequences of whistleblowing and the retaliation

I say followed have been devastating for my family and me. I intend to share more of the evidence and the story behind what happened. And then he turns up dead. Okay. So he was 57 years old and he actually used to work for Lutnik back when Lutnik owned a firm that you may have heard of. Let me give you the details on that. One second, Jank. So he was previously at the managing director at a Wall Street firm known as BGC Partners.

Lutnik happened to be the chief executive there at the time. Now, Andries had some insider info on how Wall Street guys use initials instead of their full names and email exchanges. That was super relevant because when the Epstein files, or at least some of the Epstein files were released by the Department of Justice fairly recently, Andres was able to conduct a search of the files using Lutnik's initials, H.WL, Howard William Lutnik, instead of his full name. And that was when he was able to turn up evidence of Lutnik's continued association with Epstein. Way past what Lutnik claimed in an interview with the New York Post. So Lutnik notoriously told the New York Post that he had cut off communication with Epstein after 2005. And Dris made two discoveries revealing that Lutnik had financial dealings and a continued

relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. So just to give you a few examples, he uncovered an evening. an email chain from 2018 in which Lutnik and Epstein had discussed the prospects of a startup business that they were both involved in. So that business was called ADFIN. It was an advertising technology company that both Epstein and Lutnik had invested in. So Epstein wanted to know in the email exchange whether AdFIN was finally making some revenue and Lutnik wrote back basically indicating that they had actually been doing a lot better. The files also suggest that Lutnik, his wife, and Ford's children had lunch at with Epstein on his private Caribbean island in 2012.

And then Andres also discovered in the files that one of Lutnik's firms had made plans in 2013 to go into business with another figure linked to Epstein, Prince Andrew, by commercially exploiting the contracts the former UK trade envoy had made. So I should note that prior to the Epstein files being released by Trump's DOJ, Andrice had actually reached out to the FBI with allegations against Lutnik. And guess what? The FBI didn't do a damn thing about it. But when the Epstein files were released, the DOJ did not redact Andres' name. So everyone in the public knew who the whistleblower was. And there had been some retaliation against him that I'll get into in just a minute. But Jenk, first, share your thoughts. So first, in terms of, is it, did he commit suicide or not? I think those first couple sentences, Anna, read you are so important because a lot of people in the media say, well, I mean, he said the personal consequences have been devastating

for his family and himself. So yeah, that's it, it must have been a suicide, we're done with this. But wait a minute, the second sentence was, I intend to share more of the evidence and story behind what happened. Bingo. Well, why would he convince suicide when he was intending to share this evidence imminently? That doesn't make any sense at all.

But you see like media is constantly a magic trick, an illusion. Like they give you the fact, and oftentimes they do, they give you real facts, and then they put a spin on it, they frame it in a certain way. They'll give you those two sentences and say, see, he definitely wanted to commit suicide. And you're like, wait, did he? Right? So a lot of these are very, very sketchy suicides. We'll get back into that in a second. But one more thing before any gives you more. There's an amazing fact about Howard Lutnik and 9-11. And it might be part of the reason why Lutnik is more important than you realize.

And if, you know, now getting into speculation, why this brother might not be around anymore. So what's that amazing fact about Lutnik? We'll save that for a second. But let's go back to to his allegations. So the first time Andres actually alerted the Federal Bureau of Investigation about Lutnik's ties to Epstein was back in 2020. So not only did the FBI fail to do a damn thing about it after they spoke to him, years later, when the DOJ released the Epstein files, they failed to redact Andries's name. Okay, so everyone was now alerted to the fact that he was the whistleblower on Lutnik.

Now, during Lutnik's vetting process for Commerce Secretary in 2025, an FBI memo said that the bureau, quote, did not open an investigation into these allegations, because why would they? Why would they? Who cares, right? But the DOJ released more files under the Epstein Files Transparency Act earlier this year. And at that point, the House Oversight Committee questioned Lutnik about his ongoing relationship with Epstein. This took place back in May. So the Democrats say that he was not found guilty of any wrongdoing.

I mean, he lied and was being incredibly evasive during his testimony before the House Oversight Committee. Out now lies, there's no question, it's just perjury. I need you guys to understand. This is very important. The hearings that are carried out by Congress are just meant for theater. They're not trying to accomplish anything from it. Okay, so they didn't care. They went into it knowing that they weren't going to do a damn thing about Lutnik.

They went into it knowing that. But they want their sound bite, they want their moment that they can campaign with. That's what this is about. So Democrat, Republican, I don't care, same same, total garbage, okay? They didn't do a damn thing about it. But you know what, 21 Democrats did sign a letter demanding Lutnik's resignation. Wow. Wow.

Was it strongly worded? Yeah, I'm sick of the strongly worded letters, not interested. So let's just quickly talk about the retaliation. I'll go to you, Jank. So Enjries reported intense retaliatory actions by his former employer, BGC, which of course Lutnik was the chief executive of. So he was fired back in 2017 following multiple cardiac arrests at work that he believed were caused by the stress related to his raising concerns

about some questionable financial transactions that were being made. He was worried about fraud and since his signature, was on these documents. He wanted to ensure he was doing his due diligence. He didn't want to run into any legal problems. He was suffering from blood clots. That was what was causing the cardiac arrest. He also cited the failure of the UK's financial conduct authority to take proper action

against BGC and protect his status as a whistleblower. Now shortly before checking into the treatment center last month, Simon told a friend, quote, effing BCA ruins lives. Another former BGC employee reached out to an associate of Simons after his death to say, quote, I only knew Simon recently as another ex-BGC guy who had his life flipped over. I know what he went through, RIP Simon, F.U. Lutnik. So this is the backstory. This is what's happening in the background leading up to this alleged suicide. So with that in mind, Jank.

Yeah, so in all these stories, you see the government actively fighting whistleblowers and victims. That is super strange. Usually when people go to the government and go, hey, you know, my house was robbed. Theoretically, the police are supposed to come and help you. But in this case, they're like, oh, yeah, your house was robbed. Are you thinking of committing suicide? Because we're questioning you, we're not going to look into who robbed your house at all. In fact, we're looking into you now.

This is super strange. This is not normal. And so then you go to Lutnik on the Perj tree. So he said, well, you know, I knew Epstein back in 2009. We happen to have apartments close to each other in Manhattan, but that's it. That's it. That was his original testimony. Then we find out, oops, he was on Epstein's island in 2012, so he's definitely lying.

And he said, oh yeah, I forgot. Really? Really? I went to Dublin a bunch of years ago. I don't remember exactly what we did. I remember going to a pub. I remember a couple of things about it. But I didn't forget that I went to Dublin.

Okay, you don't forget that you went to Epstein's Island. So he's a giant liar to begin with. And then in the second round of questioning, he flat out committed perjury and said, oh, that's it. I had no other relationship with him at all. And then this whistleblower finds out, no, that's not true. You guys were co-investors in that adfin company that Anna mentioned. And you had emails back and forth.

Hey, what should we do about it? What's our strategy, et cetera? So again, absolutely no question that Lucknake knew Epstein, had business relationship with Epstein, went to Epstein's Island, and definitively lied in front about it in front of Congress. Lied about it in front of Congress. Okay, so now Congress should step in and go, that's it, perjury, you're under arrest. Yeah, but they're useless. But they're not going to do that because the government is in on it.

The entire government is obviously in on it. Again, if you don't know, I'll repeat this fact for you. Jeffrey Epstein was involved in Iran Contro all the way back in the 1980s. So drop site news reported that. So that means the CIA and our government has known about Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that he was involved in intelligence, very likely the Israelis. I say very likely, but it's definitely- He was making deals internationally on behalf of the Israelis.

He was an asset for the Israelis. On behalf of the Israelis, including any, They're getting them weapons. Yes. Okay? So the CIA has known about it since the 80s, and they let him do all of these things. The government is not on our, our government is not our government. Let him is a generous way of framing it.

Yes. They were in on it, obviously. So, in on it in some way, you literally can't argue with that. Why didn't they arrest him? They knew about him, and they chose not to arrest them. And in fact, they fought it off in every way. Look, the coincidences are startling, to put it this way. The guy who gave him the very light sentence back in 2008 when he was first busted was

this guy named Acosta. Just randomly later, he winds up getting rewarded by becoming Labor Secretary. Labor Secretary. Having nothing to do with labor at all, but just gets gifted a labor secretary position under Trump in his first term, right? Good boy, Acosta, pat on the head, you did the right thing, you let off the agent. that is working with American government and the Israeli government. And what was he doing?

He was setting up a network where powerful men raped American girls. And then they used that leverage on those men to do God knows what. And we know that there was videos. And our government says we can't find the videos. Oh, come on. So which now leads to, wait, why is Howard Lutnik so important? And this guy shows up dead. Because there's a lot of different people who've shown up in the Epstein files.

and there's whistleblowers around them and they didn't all wind up dead. But with Lutnik, all of a sudden, oh, we, you know, he wasn't feeling well. And next to, you know, he's that. And by the way, if you're wondering if these are all real suicides, because like maybe you're a schmuck and you're a mainstream media reporter and don't know anything about the world, Jean-Luc Bernard one ends the conversation. Bernal, yeah. Bernal, sorry.

Got it confused there for a second with Star Trek. Okay, so he procured the underage girls. He goes in because I don't like I don't want any piece of this. I'll work with the government, I'll give evidence. Oops. Oops, boom, suicide in prison. Exactly. Come on.

And you all know with Epstein, the videotape is missing from the hallway. The guards are off duty, there's two nooses. There's a zero percent chance that was a suicide. But yet everyone says, oh, of course, trust the government, it's a suicide, et cetera. Now, finally back to Lutnik. So he worked in Cantor Fitzgerald, and apparently Cantor Fitzgerald worked with Epstein, probably because of Lutnik.

And then if you don't know this on 9-11, Cantor Fitzgerald's offices were in the World Trade Center. And everyone that worked at Cantor Fitzgerald died. And by the way, sometimes you'll see these conspiracy theories. Oh, Jewish people had foreknowledge, they were warned, they all got a memoir, not true. A lot of Jewish Americans did die on 9-11. But at Cantor Fitzgerald, there was one person who survived.

Howard Lutnik randomly took the day off. He was the one guy who said, oh yeah, you know what? Today's the day I'm gonna take my kid into school. School hadn't started yet, by the way. It was supposed to be the first day of school. That wasn't the first day of school. Weird. Weird, so weird.

Yeah. Okay. Now, maybe there's another explanation, it certainly could be. But Howard Lutnik takes the day off on 9-11 magically, then magically becomes Commerce Secretary. In the meanwhile, he'd been working with Epstein all along, our government knows all along, and instead of pursuing and punishing Lutnik, even after you have crystal clear perjury on the record, instead he's rewarded. He's awarded the Commerce Secretary position all over TV in a lot of ways in charge of our economy.

Wait, Epstein wanted to be in charge of a lot of things so he could run our government in a lot of ways by having this power over powerful men. And who were Epstein's friends? Acosta, who let him off, Lutnik, who's currently the Commerce Secretary? And oh yeah, the president, Donald J. Trump. There was tapes, there was videos in the Kleenex boxes. And our government says, oh, golly, gee, we just can't find them. Yeah. All right, we got to take a break.

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100%. The enemy is Gaza, not Hamas. Okay? The baby that will be born in Gaza tomorrow will do exactly the same. God forbid to your bird baby, they'll be born tomorrow in Jerusalem. There's no other way. That's the reason they live for. Okay?

That's what they learn with their mother's milk. Sounds like a Nazi argument. It is. So this genocidal maniac is a politician in Israel. He's going to in a minute argue for killing everyone in Gaza, presumably with a nuclear weapon. And I want to come back after Anna tells you the whole story and shows you three reasons why basically they've become fascist in Israel, people like this.

And how our government and our politicians and our media participate in this barbarism. Anna. Imagine speaking the way Moshe Feglin speaks, thinking you're the good guy. But he does, he thinks he's the good guy. He is a Kinesic candidate running together with Israel's current finance minister, Basel-Smoutrich. Many of you already know a lot about Basel Smotrich, but just in case you need more evidence of his genocidal intent, here's what he had to say recently about southern Lebanon. Hamas doesn't exist in southern Lebanon, of course, we were all lied to about how Israel

just wants to root out in Isbala, right? But it was never about that. It was always about taking the land. He says, quote, we are at a good starting point. Now it could turn out badly or it could turn out well to the point where Gaza is ours in the end. By the way, I tell you the same thing about Lebanon. The thorough cleansing above and below ground that we are doing now in southern Lebanon will

affect the security of northern Israeli residents for decades. And then he says that residents of southern Lebanon, they have nowhere to return. Look at how southern Lebanon looks, and by the way, the world is not stopping us. So in other words, Israel cats had said that they are going to deploy the Gaza model in southern Lebanon. And currently they're leveling villages, both Muslim areas and Christian areas. Lebanon is actually very diverse when it comes to religious beliefs, when it comes to background. And he's just saying it, we're just wiping him out.

We want to cleanse southern Lebanon for the Israelis to come in and settle it, of course. Now with that context in mind, here's Feglund or Feglund, whatever, however you say his name, talking about what he thinks about killing literal babies and pregnant women in Gaza. Take a look. Okay. Is it a Jewish point of view to like wipe out all of Gaza, though, and get everyone out of there and annex and annexed the West Bank

like do you 100% notice that I'm not saying Hamas I'm not saying Palestinian there's a there's a so-called

national entity that we created in Gaza okay the enemy is Gaza not Hamas you're not going to change them you're not going to educate them

after October 7th you made a statement saying that it was a good thing to you said it's a good thing for there to be dead babies in Gaza or something along the lines of Do you still stand by such a statement?

I don't want to see dead babies in Gaza. I want to see Gaza empty. But I am not afraid when they hiding behind their own babies. And this is what they do. They are glorified death. Their mothers over there saying openly that they want the kids to be killed together with the Jews. This is what Islam is all about. If you look at the videos of Palestinian mothers weeping in Gaza, you tell me, are they hoping for their children to get slaughtered by the Israelis? This man is so sick. And the reason why I'm bringing this up, because there's many Israeli politicians who say genocidal things on a regular basis. And we don't cover every single instance. I wanted to cover this because the genocidal intent is so brazenly obvious, clear, it's clearly communicated. And you see, you see.

We still have scum of the earth individuals here in the United States and the entire Zionist entity denying that they've carried out genocide while simultaneously making genocidal statements like this again and again and again and again. And by the way, who coined the word genocide? I want to talk about that after Jen comments because the very person who coined the word genocide seemed to focus heavily on intent, and I'll explain why. Even before the Nazis carried out what they did against the Jewish population. He had coined that word and he had used it in regard to what the Nazis were doing toward the Jewish population.

But the timeline of that is really interesting. So stick around, I'll explain that in just a second, but I want to get your thoughts first, Jake. So in other parts of that interview, he talked about how look, the Americans did Nagasaki, and that's what we should have done right after October 7th. And then after basically we killed them all, the world would have moved on. What we did in Nagasaki was wrong. Yeah. Okay, it was disgusting and it was wrong and it didn't need to happen. It incinerated 100,000 civilians at once.

And they, Israel keeps pointing to it as like the definitively right thing to do. And by the way, is Israel going to lose hundreds of thousands of troops invading Japan or Lebanon or Iran? No, no, they don't have the same exigency or urgency. that we did, they just want to nuke Gaza so they can take it. And so I'll get to their intent in a second, but their purposes in a second, but their intent is clear because he's stating it. And he said at one point in the interview like, look, as a Jew, I wouldn't want to kill babies, but we have to kill their babies.

And so he's just saying it, that's what Nazis say. That is what Nazis say. They're modern day Nazis and they get very offended by people like me comparing them Nazis. There's these like Zionist organizations that have been harassing me because they've been following me around, listening to my commentary, listening to my speeches. And they're like, oh, she's comparing Israel to Nazis. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want to be called Nazis? Stop behaving like Nazis.

100%. This guy is literally saying we should have murdered all of the Palestinians in Gaza. That's not genocidal, that cross over into a Holocaust. Absolutely. Genocide is when you kill in, you target a particular race or ethnicity or background, in whole, or in part, Holocaust. is trying to wipe out the whole race. And this guy saying, we have to kill all their babies. Now I wouldn't want to because I'm so moral, but I can't wait to murder all their babies. And then the world will move on because they're just stupid, lowly Palestinians.

And obviously we're the good guys because we're the chosen people. Now again, Jewish Americans don't believe that, but in Israel, this is exactly my point. They have slipped into a lunatic cult. And the cult believes, as that guy has said over and over again, and you've seen some of it right now with your own We got to kill them first because they're going to kill all the Jews. We know they're going to kill all the Jews. And by the way, when I say it like this, a lot of Jews get triggered. They're like, well, but they did try before the Holocaust and poggums.

I know that. I know where it comes from. But what you don't realize brothers and sisters is that they're using that PTSD you have culturally. They're exploiting it. And that what you went through earlier, they're taking advantage of it. And is right, they're exploiting it. And they're saying, but now we should do it to someone else.

No, that's not the right lesson to learn from it. And in fact, of course, a lot of Jewish Americans are deeply opposed to that. Right now, recently a poll came out, 61% of Jewish Americans believe that Israel's committed war crimes, and 40% believe they've committed a genocide. But you never, ever see that on television, because on television, they love to hide Israel behind Jewish civilians. So they go, no, no, no, no, it's not Israel, it's the Jews, it's the Jews. Again, our media sounds like neo-Nazis, constantly blaming all Jewish people when they

didn't sign up for this. No, the Israelis and the radical Zionists are telling you to your face, we are murderers. And given the opportunity, we would kill every person in Gaza, including the children and the babies. Okay, now the most frightening part of it is, and you'll start to see more and more of this as we go forward. That is an Israeli talking point from one of the most right wing lunatic genocidal politicians in Israel.

But that same talking point I have already seen in American politicians and going forward you'll see it a lot more because our politicians literally take their talking points from the Israelis, which by the way is yes, illegal. That is a crime to coordinate with a foreign government and to do their propaganda here. And you will see it not just in the past, but in the future with your own eyes, when you see American politicians start to say, no, no, no, we're not fighting Hamas. They're fighting Gaza. Now why that switch?

Because before it was like Hamas is the terrible terrorist and how dare they fight against Israel, they should know when a people should know when they're occupied and they should all be our slaves forever. And that is a literal vote, Kness said, we will never free the Palestinians. Unanimous never going to free the Palestinians and so but why switch from the boogeyman they created Hamas because now they want to murder the civilians so they say oh no no our war isn't with a terrorist group Hamas it's with the people of Gaza And you'll see American after American politician take that same talking point from that

genocidal maniac and say it all of our air and you will also see that American media will not ask them to clarify will not ask a follow-up question And will not say, wait, are you saying that you want to kill the civilians in Gaza? Because our American media works with these same genocidal maniacs to put out their propaganda all over our air. So we finance these monsters. Okay, lastly for me for now, why so vicious? Why so over the top? Because it's going to attract attention. Here's the Israelis going, we want to murder all of them on tape.

Saying we want to murder all their babies. Because they're rubbing it in your face. That's part- They're rubbing it in your fit. No, no, no, that is the whole thing. They're rubbing it in your face. Yes, we're doing genocide. But if you happen to be an American who has a problem with your government aiding and abetting it,

funding it, we want you to know there's nothing you can do about it. And in fact, we will destroy your livelihood for simply speaking out against it. That's what they're doing, they're rubbing your face in it. If you're an American and you have lost your job, your life, your livelihood for speaking out against genocide while these people are hooting and hollering about like, oh, how dare you? It's not genocide. While simultaneously admitting it's genocide, it's meant to drive you crazy, it's meant to rub it in your face. So don't let it happen, don't let them gaslight you. Yeah, Anna, but there's two different audiences here. You're

addressing the American audience, so the reason they say it out loud is twofold. For the Americans, Anna's absolutely right, learned despondency. They want you to be despondent, think, There's nothing you can do about Israel's control over your country. So just shut up and know that you are also occupied. And we're just gonna tell you, we're murdering babies with your money. And we want more of your money. And if you say anything about it, we're gonna get our dogs in American media to attack you, not the people committing genocide, but you for being opposed to a genocide.

And they're gonna cancel you and call you an anti-Semite and destroy your life. That's why we're rubbing it in. So you know there's nothing you could do. Just sit back on the couch, don't fight us. Just know that you are ruled, okay? The second reason, the second audience they do it is mainly to the Palestinians. Because what they want to tell the Palestinians is, we're gonna kill you all unless you run for your lives.

Why do they want that? Because that's the whole point of ethnic cleansing. That's exactly what they did in 1948. They came in and they did vicious attacks against the Palestinians, dragging their dead bodies across the streets, digging up mass grave, making the Palestinians dig the mass graves, and shooting them in the head and burying them in those mass graves. And if you haven't heard this dozy, you can look it up, these are real. They put a dad and a son in a baker's oven.

They did, yeah. The original Zionist. Okay, and that was before, by the way, that was before all of this. It was before October 7th, it was before the genocide in Gaza. This is who the Israelis are. It is the original genocide. It was in 1948. And so now everyone acknowledges, 750,000 Palestinians ran for their lives.

But what are disgusting lying media has told you in a preposterous lie meant to help their actual, the people that they serve, the Israelis, is that the, oh no, the poor Israelis were attacked. Well, if the Israelis were attacked, why didn't the Israelis run? Why did 750,000 Palestinians live, leave their homes and all their valuables behind and run for their lives? The theory in American media is how they went out for a picnic. It was their choice, you know, they were attacking the poor, poor, poor Israelis. And then just after they attacked them viciously, they decided, you know what, let's just run for our lives. No, Israel slaughtered them.

And they were all afraid that they were going to murder them all. And since that worked in 1948, that's what they've been doing ever since. That's why they're saying, hey, you better run for your life in Gaza. Gaza is ours. We're going to keep all of it. And we're going to develop it and we're going to put condominiums on your children's graves. And us and Jared Kushner are going to make a lot of money from it. And remember, if you stay in Gaza, we're going to kill all your children.

That's what they did in 48. That's what they're doing now. Anna, back to you. So the word genocide was coined by Raphael Limkin, Lemkin, in his book, which was published in 1944, titled Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. But he didn't start writing it in 1944. He started writing it in 1940. So obviously what motivated him, what inspired that word was the intent of the Nazis.

The Nazis hadn't carried out what was referred to as the final solution. And as we all know, the Nazi regime was ended in 1945. So intent is an important part of determining whether or not a genocide was carried out or is being carried out. And the Israelis tell us every single day what their intent is. And yet we get gaslit by our government, by their government, by our media, about how like, no, no, no, it's, this isn't a genocide. Every single genocide scholar has come out and called it a genocide. It doesn't matter.

I'm just going to gaslight you and say it's not true anyway. Yeah. So look, every Israeli accusation is a confession. So when he started talking about the glorified death, right now, what is Israel doing? It's glorifying death. We had to murder all of them in Gaza. We didn't have a choice. And you know what?

It's a wonderful thing that we did because they were going to kill us all. Remember Jews, be super scared. They're going to kill them first. Killed them first, kill them all. That's a death cult. Zionism, I don't know if it started this way. It certainly sounds like it given their fascist beginning in Europe. But certainly today is a death cult.

And so they teach and they brainwashed their kids. That's why they always talk about, oh, the Palestinians brainwashed their kids into hating Jews. No, they're just doing projection. The Israelis brainwashed their kids into despising Palestinians, being deeply racist against all Arabs, being bigots against Muslims, and constantly telling their kids, they're going to kill you, they're going to kill you. You should kill them first. You have to attack them first. They're going to kill you.

It's a death cult. And so they've been butchering the Palestinians. While our media has been doing the most important job of all, making sure that instead of seeing who the real perpetrators are, that you are deceived into attacking Israel's victims, all of our media says, give me your money, we have to murder more Palestinians. The Palestinians are the terrorists. They should be wiped out. They should be murdered. They sound just like this lunatic genocidal freak. Almost all of our media, our whole lives have been telling us that we need to murder Palestinians because Israel is the victim. So, and just in case you're not convinced yet that it's a death coat real quick, and we've covered this before,

American doctors telling us, you can go back and watch it yourself, Jewish American doctors saying Israel would invade hospitals and on their way out. they'd pull the incubators so that the babies would die. One American Jewish doctor said eight babies on his watch, he couldn't stop them. They pulled the plugs on their incubators, they're dead. They're disgusting savages. They're disgusting savages. We gotta take a break, Jay.

Let's take a break, we'll be right by. CB1 writes in in the t.t.com member section. I would love to believe that most of the Israeli citizens don't agree with that guy, but that doesn't appear to be the case. You're right, you're right. Yeah, the poll- Let's not provide cover for them, sorry, Jank, but you're right, you're right. Why are we gonna pretend like the majority of civilians in Israel are totally against what that guy just said? They love it, they love it.

This is who they are. They're savages. Go ahead. They're currently in a cult, and so we have to find a way to get them out of that cult. Otherwise, they're gonna kill all their neighbors, and they're gonna do it with our money. And they're literally doing it right now. That's not exaggeration, it's not anything. It's quite literal. It's literal. They're destroying southern Lebanon.

They're destroying the West Bank. They're destroying Gaza. They're destroying southern Syria. And our media goes, let them kill all those Muslims. Good, good. They haven't murdered enough, right? Right, you sick sons of bitches on cable news,

constantly covering for this death cult. Oh, no, no, no, they're genocides. No big deal. No big deal. Give us your money. Give us your money. We've got to kill more Palestinian babies. God damn it.

every one of those cable news anchors is the most immoral person in the country. Not one of them has called it a genocide. Because, oh, but then I would get fired and I would lose my multi-million dollar job. And I'd rather have my money than be a decent moral person. So I'll lie on behalf of the Zionist, because the Zionist executive will fire me unless I lie to you and tell you that the Palestinians are the bad guys and the Israelis are their poor, poor little victims. Propaganda, America, propaganda. Oh, the Israelis are right, help to murder the Palestinians.

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He's the first Muslim mayor there. And of course, taking a lot of abuse. We asked about the Michigan election. And I'm going to do a member's only episode afterwards. I'm gonna read a ton of your comments and I'm going to rage. So if you like that, join t-y-t.com slash join. All right, let's go to the next story. Okay, so this is Zach Ryan.

He's a country music singer and he wore a shirt called Free Palestine at Gillette Stadium, owned by Robert Kraft. Well, how did it work out for him? Were people enraged? Did they show up to the second concert? I bet nobody showed up because American media tells me all the time that America long He loves Israel and they hate the Palestinians, so I'm sure no one showed up at all for a second concert. Anna, tell us about it.

No one did anything because guess what? What happened to Macklemore actually backfired significantly and maybe Robert Kraft learned a lesson, but let me give you the details. So for those who don't listen to country music, Zach Bryan is actually incredibly popular, very successful, well-known country music artist who's considered to be one of the biggest live music draws right now, meaning he draws a huge audience. For instance, back in September of last year, he was the first artist to perform at the Michigan Stadium and drew over 112,000 people.

That's insane. I mean, almost as big as Trump's crowd sizes, of course. The show was the largest ticketed concert audience in US history. Now, he performed two nights at Gillette Stadium, and in fact, even, even, you know, he was even broke Gillette Stadium's attendance record on the second night. So Brian's October 3rd performance officially put his name in the Gillette Stadium record books with 73,538 people in attendance. The singer-songwriter surpassed every previous event attendance mark at the home of the NFL's

New England Patriots. So let's get into the shirts that he and his band were wearing. So Brian and his band wore pro-Palestine shirts both nights. Neither him nor his band called attention to the shirts. They didn't say anything about it. They just simply wore the shirts, which of course said free Palestine. His guitarist wore a Palestine soccer jersey, and so did the drummer, Nate Head. But his jersey had Hindra Job 5 on the back.

So we have some stills so you can kind of take a look at what they look like, what they were wearing during the performance. Now the jerseys worn by Brian's band members were actually for. from a brand called Wear the Peace. That's a US based organization that actually donates its profits to Gaza. So it's no surprise that this is being viewed or perceived as a big middle finger to Robert Kraft, who has now banned McElmore from his stadiums

and got his other billionaire Zionist buddies to do the same when it comes to their stadiums. But let it be known that Bryant isn't a stranger to political activism. So let's take a look at this screenshot from a previous report in Rolling Stone, Zach Bryan has a new song bashing ice, Republicans are big mad. The country songwriter takes a shot at law enforcement in bad news, earning a response

from DHS and MAGA singers like John Rich. So let's talk about the reaction to the t-shirts and to the jerseys that they wore. So of course, Robert Kraft said nothing, probably because he got himself in a bit of a kerfuffle when he did what he did to Maclemore. But fans did notice on the, and made it clear that they noticed on the venue on the venue's social media pages. They only posted far away photos of Brian. So let me give you some examples.

The funniest cope came from the Jerusalem Post, by the way. Zach Bryan's free Palestine shirt shows how political pressure can backfire on Israel. analysis. Most major musicians are not wearing free Palestine shirts. However, if artists feel they are being pressured not to do so, it is possible that more of them will. So a concession there about how, yeah, that whole Macalmore thing did backfire. Reporters Seth Franceman for the Jerusalem Post wrote the following. He says that the shirt also says an appeal to heaven and has a pine tree on it. The phrase is from John Locke's second treaty on government,

and the symbol and motto come from the American Revolution. This would appear to mean that Brian was perhaps doing two things at once, wearing the free Palestine phrase to show that as a musician, he could wear what he wants, and also wearing a shirt with phrasing that would appeal to some in his country music base who are more right-leaning. I think that he was making a point about how we shouldn't allow billionaire owners to censor our speech, especially in the face of Israel's genocide against the Palestinian people.

I think that was the point. But I don't know, maybe I'm not reading enough into it. What do you think, Jake? I actually do think that a little bit. I think that he wore that particular shirt on purpose that they seem to have intent in wearing the different shirts. And so I think what he was saying is don't get a twisted, I'm not some. lefty who, you know, is whatever the stereotype he has in his head.

I'm a right winger, but I also want a free Palestine. And I think that's actually a more powerful message. And part of what he's doing is what country stars used to do back in the day when they were badasses instead of fake badasses. So back in the day, Johnny Cash had a record where he gave the middle finger. And back then, that was considered outrageous. It was scandalous. And who was he giving the middle finger too?

In essence, the establishment. And he actually stood up for prisoners that were being abused. He was the man in black because he wore black until all the poor and the needy were taken care of. So back in the day, country stars used to actually stand up for the average guy. And then for a long time, they went into this rut where they're like, oh, the rich are great and the Republicans are great, we should cut taxes on the rich. And we're like, what?

What kind of nonsense trash is this? That's not country, some sort of fake version of it, right? Created in Hollywood or natural or wherever, right? So Zach Bryan is now going back to a little bit more of the roots. And not necessarily on the left as he's pointing out, that's a right wing approach to it. Who cares as long as you're standing up for the average guy and against the establishment. And a great way to do that is tell a billionaire NFL owner, oh yeah, I'm gonna wear the shirt you hate most inside your own stadium. What are you gonna do about it, tough guy?

And the reality is that those analysts that Anna quoted are correct. There is now he's in a pincer move between the left and the right. And there isn't much that poor little Zionists like Robert Kraft can do. I mean, they could get the head of Columbia fired for not immediately arresting anyone protesting Israel. They can get Congress to do congressional hearings. They could ban you from their stadiums. But they can't ban all Americans.

So now he's, if he bans him, he gets more popular, he's like, no, no, I don't want. anyone helping the Palestinians or freeing them. I want them forever crushed under Israeli oppression. But now I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. That's right. So Brian is, I believe identifies as libertarian. And there is a pretty big difference, generally speaking. I mean, these days, not so much when it comes to Israel,

but generally speaking, libertarians are more anti-interventionists compared to conservative Republicans. Now, when it comes to Israel, I think cats out of the bag, everyone realizes that American taxpayers are being exploited or service members are being exploited. Also, Israel can build its empire, which does include killing a lot of innocent people in stealing land. And believe it or not, finding that disgusting and deplorable is not really a partisan issue. But generally speaking, again, libertarians tend to be a lot better on foreign policy matters than, you know, members of the Republican Party.

People who identify as conservative Republicans have been, especially in the recent past. Definitely at Gillette Stadium, definitely at all the Dallas Mavericks games, because Mavericks are owned by Miriam Adelson. But really at all sporting events or any public gatherings, wear free Palestine shirts, bring the Palestinian flag and the American flag, you know, wear or bring signs that are in favor of Palestine, and definitely at Gillette Stadium and where the Mavericks play. at every game you should chant free, free Palestine. Because it might literally cause these owners to just sell the teams.

Because they can't stand the idea of the Palestinians being free. That to them is an anathema. They're like, no, they're supposed to be our servants. No, they're supposed to be dead. They're supposed to clear out of our land that God promised us. And not that other race who should be destroyed, right? That's how evil Robert Kraft and Mary Madelson are. Along with, by the way, it turns out a majority of the NFL owners, because he went to his fellow Zionists and said,

remember, let's ban someone. They want to free the Palestinians. And they're like, no, freeing them. They're supposed to be our slaves forever. Let's ban McLemore. But now they realize the ban has backfired and they're in bigger trouble. So good, they've been exposed for who they are. So chant free, free Palestine until they run out of the stadium in.

horror that the Palestinians might be free one day. Mary Madelson has been the worst owner of the Mavericks have ever had. She's absolutely destroyed that team. So if you want a new ownership that actually values the Mavericks, chant free, free Palestine. I swear she sells it within the year. You chanted at every game, there's no way she keeps that team. All right, final story for you, and this is developing.

We don't have as many details as I would like, but I do want to kind of draw attention to it. So, Jane, take it away. All right, let's watch. A lot of unknown here, but the genesis is reports in Russia of a worker dying at a Russian plague research center after Russian health officials said an employee there was diagnosed with pneumonia from an unknown cause. The U.S. State Department is now weighing in, saying, quote, we are aware of reports of a fatal case of suspected pneumonic plague in Russia and are monitoring the situation closely with the CDC

and our other interagency partners, end quote. At first blush, you go, oh, great, the one thing we needed, the bubonic plague might be back. But there is a second blush. Why is this story a little bit different than it appears? Anna's going to tell you. Well, look, over the weekend, Russian authorities announced that they were launching an investigation into the death of a woman who was actually working in the Ertutsk anti-plague institution in Siberia. So another one of these, you know, these institutions that does testing on things like plagues and viral infections, you guys get the point.

Okay, now according to local reports out of Russia on September 25th, 28 year old Daria Shipilova broke a test tube containing the pneumonic plague pathogen. She was admitted to a hospital on September 29th with symptoms of severe pneumonia. and died overnight between October 1st and October 2nd. So we have minimal details so far, but things are not looking good so far. Okay, you broke the test tube, what does that mean? Did these pathogens somehow leak out of this lab? We don't know.

But according to regional governor Igor Kobsev, no microorganisms linked to the employee's professional activities were detected in her body, and that that there had been no new cases of illness among other employees of the lab. But based on the way Russia is behaving in response to this, doesn't seem like he's telling the truth. Now, what do I mean by that? Russia has implemented a comprehensive set of anti-epidemic measures. Okay, it includes quarantines and things like that.

The inpatient facility, for instance, where this worker was receiving treatment has been closed for quarantine since Friday of last week. So Russian media cited officials saying that nearly 200 people who had been in contact with the woman had been placed under precautionary medical observation. Also going back to the Russian official who made that statement about like, no, no, no, we did testing and those pathogens were not found in her system at the time that she died. So it's just a crazy coincidence that she broke that test tube in the lab and then immediately got pneumonia and was hospitalized.

It was just a coincidence. Anna, remember, they found the bat or the goblin or whatever right next to the Wuhan virus lab. So but the virus that is housed in that lab did not come out of the lab. Right. It came out of a bat right next to the lab. The Chinese, they were eating the bats. That was the problem. Yeah, they're reading the bats.

That was Batman. So look, additionally, the Wall Street Journal reported. that the nearby Irkutsk aluminum factory, which is located in the same town and employs more than 2,000 people, has imposed a mask mandate, which gives you the impression that they are concerned that there was a lab leak. Of course there was, come on. Other outlets also reported that additional hospitals in the region had also been closed. However, Russian officials are stating that there haven't been cases of infectious diseases

reported among Institute staff over the past 10 days. But like, okay, yes, Chinese officials were claiming all sorts of things about the coronavirus, and they were lying. So I, what's actually going on, you know, are you just going to take their word for it? I don't know. So there's a lot of confusion about the validity of certain information. However, according to the World Health Organization, which has totally proven its credibility and we should absolutely trust.

They claim based on unofficial information available, the public health risk to the general population appears to be low. And then there's the CDC, Centers for Disease Control, also an institution that we can really trust to tell us the truth. Patients with pneumatic plague developed fever, headache, weakness, and a rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath, chest pain, cough, and sometimes bloody or watery mucus. And then here in the states, the White House has stated that they're monitoring the situation,

but that's about it. So look, you have former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger basically demanding that we ban all flights coming in from Russia. The whole world needs to ban all flights to and from Russia. Look, I think that's going too far. We need more information about what's actually happening on the ground in Russia. But here's the thing. The plague, if detected early, is curable, highly treatable.

The way that this behavior is being carried out in Russia leads me to believe that this is something that's more serious, maybe a novel form of the plague. That's a great point. Yeah. Because the plague sounds super scary, but it's relatively easy to treat these days. As long as you catch it early, the fact that they didn't catch it. earlier with her is weird unless they did and it's not the plague, it's something worse, as Anna's pointing out.

You just give antibiotics and it gets cured. I mean, that's really straightforward. So nothing to panic about if it's the plague. What's scary is, what's worse than the plague? Because now, what actually happened? Number one, you get it from the pattern. So the pattern is almost always the same in these type of situations, and in many situations. In the first 24 hours, you'll get something that's closer to reality.

So in this case, what you got was panic. And the Russia's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, grab everyone at the factory right now. Put them into a hospital, close the hospitals, close the town, and get it all under locked out. Okay, that's reality. They're super worried. After the first 24 hours, they'll go back to propaganda. This happens here in America too, okay? In the first 24 hours, sometimes Trump even, sometimes politicians, oftentimes the media will say things that are true because they'll have like a normal human reaction to it.

And then within 24 hours, they will all change their view, which is that means they got their talking points. This is what the propaganda we're going with. Now in the case of Russia, in this case, they're like, niet, n't, nothing to worry about. Just a little plague. But you know what? It wasn't from the lab and it wasn't an accident. She just naturally caught it. Yeah, no, there's no chance that's true.

So then Anna, the second layer to it is something that we're asking in a poll. We're asking you to guess blindly because I would guess blindly at this. But what are they actually doing? So the poll on t.com is what actually happened in the plague outbreak in Russia? A, it was an honest accident. That's possible. B, Russians were preparing bio weapons. C, Ukrainians hit Russia with a bioweapon.

D, it was a minor incident that's being hyped up for electoral and political reasons. I mean, some of those options really don't make any sense at this current moment. But yeah, yeah, I do think that if something gets out and it becomes more serious, it's a lab leak having to do with something that's more serious than a typical like plague. So if you're going with Occam's Razor and you go, okay, what's the simplest answer to this? They're working with some sort of bio dangerous activity. I don't know if it's a bioweapon. What is anti-plague research? Like haven't we already figured the plague out?

There's gain of function, there's this, there's that, right? And so they were doing that and then they screwed something up. She got sick and maybe others got sick, right? So that's the simplest explanation, probably what happened. But Anna, you're really hitting on something I didn't consider when I first looked at the story. And that's probably the most important. the most important. This sounds like it's definitely worse than the plague because they wouldn't panic like

this over something that could be treated with antibiotics. Yeah, exactly. So what in the world are the Russians doing in that lab? That we don't know, and that's what's a little scary. There are labs like this sprinkled all over the globe, by the way. So this is not like a uniquely Russian or Chinese thing. Ukraine had bio labs. So something to keep in mind.

way. Well, keep an eye on the story. If anything develops, that's worthy of covering, obviously we will cover it. I don't want to panic anybody. It's just important to know that this is what's going on in Russia. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, like we said, coming up, I've got the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan with maybe the most important non-presidential election of our lifetimes happening in Michigan. And Dearborn is besieged because it's the highest percentage of Muslim Americans in any one city in the country. And it's always the target of attacks, we'll talk to him about that. And then later for the members, we'll do an extra segment where I interact with you guys and I rage more. So if you like that, hit the join button

below or t.t.com slash join. I'll see you in a minute. Revolution, I'm your host, Jane Hugar. We got an interesting interview with the mayor of Dearborn, Michigan right now, Abdullah Mahmoud. Abdullah, welcome to the show. How you doing, brother? Good, how you doing? Thank you so much for having me. No problem. So look, we're talking about super serious issues, including a super important election happening in Michigan. But at the end, I'm going to force you to tell a funny story about your mom. Okay, I'm just giving you that warning ahead of time. Okay, and I don't know, I'm going to give some sort of bonus. I don't know what it is. There's someone who figures

out who's the actor that Abdullah looks like. I can't place it and it's driving me crazy. Okay, anyways. All right, so. Serious issues. These are important issues, important issues. Okay, But all right, now on to actually important issues. So Dearborn, Michigan is 41% Muslim. So it makes it one of the most heavily concentrated areas for Muslim Americans of the country. You're the first Arab American, first Lebanese American, or first Muslim mayor of Dearborn, which is actually kind of surprising, given that 41% of the population is Muslim there. So first, before we get into the statewide races in Michigan, including, of course, Abdul al-Said,

pivotal race. Tell us about how things have been in Dearborn lately, because you guys have been the target of a lot of attacks over the last year or so. Yeah, but I appreciate you asking. Dearborn is this beautifully diverse, multi-ethnic, multi-generational city, and it's really all-American city. You know, but the attacks that you are speaking to aren't new. I'm somebody who was born or raised in the city. And long before the days of a Jake Lang, we had Terry Jones, uh, uh, uh, a right wing Christian nationalist that would drive all the way to Dearborn to talk about bird in the Quran. That happened when I was growing up and now you're just seeing that repeat and rinse and recycle of the same place over and over again to try to belittle the city of

Dearborn. And I think ultimately what people are attacking and Dr. Abdul-Sight says this best is the idea that Dearborn has a big vision and a big dream for what America is, a place that welcomes all, whether it was the Polish Americans, Italian Americans, the Irish Americans, the Lebanese, Yemeni, Iraqi Americans that have all called the city of Dearborn home. And so Dearborn is thriving. We're doing extremely well. Our business corridors are thriving. Our small amount of pop shops are doing great. Ford has reinvested heavily in the city of Dearborn with its brand new world headquarters, with the home of Kar Haar, of several universities and campuses.

And we're about to fund our public school system with the largest bond in the state history, God willing, to reinvest and reconstruct our schools for the generations to come. So Deerborn is doing many things and many things right and our quality of life is improving. And invite you all to move to the city. And we're not paying attention to the folks on the outside trying to tell us who we are because we know who we are. So when did you impose Sharia law on all the Christians in Dearborn? And how have you made them suffer and serve you? You know, we have Shwarmalah.

And shawarmala means we have the best possible shawarma is anywhere around, you know, whether it's chicken or lachmer or meat. And by all means, I think if you're eating a chicken, shawarama, you're not eating the right one. But on a serious note, we're a city that's actually home to over 30 churches and about a dozen mosques. And that is not often portrayed in the media. And I think it's notably done as to put a target on the city of Dearborn, because as you know all too well, that when things aren't going so well, those in office, those in power need to give you an enemy and somebody as the reason for why things aren't going so well. And they tend to point to the people within the city of Dearborn, but the city of Dearborn is not why gas prices are an all-time high.

The city of Dearborn is not why health care premiums are going up or why cost of the grocery store are going up. It's not because of people in the city of Dearborn. The city of Durban are hurting just like anybody else. But there is no Sharia, only Shwarma law here and maybe some Shakira law as well. Okay. So, but look, this is a super serious issue because people are using Muslim Americans to demagogue. And they really, I mean, they pass these laws in places like Oklahoma saying that, you know, we won't let Sharia law take over as if it was like imminent in Tulsa, right? So, and amazingly, they get some people to actually believe it, like that Muslims in this country have some sort of enormous power where they could impose Sharia law on all the other Americans through what mechanism, even if they wanted to, right?

So, but tell us the reality of, you know, folks in Dearborn, your citizens. And, you know, do they have a lot of power? Do they have no, you know, almost no power? Are they the ones that are trying to impose their control over other people or other people try to impose control over them? I think what folks on the outside are trying to impose is they're trying to impose fear to try to get the people of Dearborn to practice their faith. differently or to live their life differently. And we pushed back on that. What I would tell you is there's

nobody trying to impose a real law in the city of Dearborn. And the only law that reigns supreme here is the constitution and the city code of ordinances at the city of Dearborn. And that's really what we try to uphold. But to your point, what does the fear mongering do? You know, when the Christian crusade was coming to the city of Dearborn led by none other than Jake Lang, I happened to be walking, doing a neighborhood walk and I came across a group of young children and there was a boy not older than maybe nine or 10 and he walked up to me and he was a young Muslim boy and he told me are the Christians, crusaders coming because they want to kill me as a Muslim. And I think that is the reality for many of our residents, for many of these young people that are watching and seeing this

fold, unfold live via live streams, via social media, on the news, on the TV and they're not knowing what to do and they're expected to retract within their home. And the message that we have had for our residences to do anything but to not retract, because retracting would allow these naysayers, these folks who have a small vision for America to win. And we can't go about living our life in a life of fear. I think far too often the main media channels and many of these quote unquote political figures online are focusing on the way in which Muslims pray rather than focusing on the things that we pray for, which is oftentimes the same set of things that anybody of any faith or of no faith at all wish for their family to have, which is a strong

quality education, strong economic opportunity for you to provide a dignified life for your family, improved air quality and water quality so you can make sure that what's put on the table is healthy for those who are consuming the water or the food. These are the things that we pray for. You want for your neighbor what you want for yourself. And so those who are trying to impose their fear often are coming from the outside. And what we can do is just tell folk that we open our doors and welcome all to come to city of Dearborn. Because in order for hate to persist, hate needs distance. And if we eliminate that distance by doing the thing that we do best, which is breaking bread, enjoying in conversation and building a community with one another,

we can eliminate and make sure that hate disperses. Yeah, Mayor Hamad said something important in there. I don't want you guys to miss. Look, in my experience, Muslim Americans would love equality. I mean, they'd be like, yes, God bless, that's plenty enough, right? And not to be constantly attacked and demagogued about and fear mongered about. They have almost no power. And like a lot of Americans, their ideal would be equality plus probably just be left alone. Like that'd be amazing, right? And so, but in your answer there, you said something that's a little bit different.

than what we're used to. At least I'm used to growing up as a Muslim American in America, which is that for the first time people are going, no, we've got to stop being scared. We got to fight back. We're Americans, we have rights, constitutional rights, just like everybody else. And there's no reason why we should allow people to beat up on us ideologically, politically, rhetorically, et cetera. So I love that and I want to encourage that.

But that leads me to ask this question. So I think that one of the reasons why the power system in this country is so afraid of Dr. Abdul al-Said is because they're worried that if he wins, then Muslims are truly equal, that they could win a Senate seat in Michigan and that American people are happy to vote for a Muslim American. That means the demagoguery is no longer working, like just pretending that Muslims are evil and somehow going to take over the country and they're the real problem. That's been the go-to move, if we're being honest, by the Zionist network in this country,

and hence the power system in this country. And so now if he wins, they can't do that anymore. And I think it's driving them crazy. That's my take on it. What's your take? You know, I think there would be nothing more American than a set of voters voting for a candidate based on the direction in which they wanted to lead, regardless of the direction in which they And I think that really does strike the hearts of so many who have this narrow, small vision for America.

Because when you look at somebody like Dr. Abdul-Sahed, you know, let's put the name to the side. If I would have told you you have the captain of the football team, a wrestler, a lacrosse player, the valedictorian of this undergraduate class, the person who married his college sweetheart who's raising a beautiful family here, the son of immigrants, Americans from coast to coast would be celebrating this story. add the name, add the faith, and that is where the villainization commences, the demagogu commences. And I think that's why Abdul's race is so important. It's not just important for Muslim Americans or Arab Americans. It's important for all of Americans to demonstrate that if you work hard, that if you are advocating for a set of policies to help improve the quality of life of everyday Americans, that rather than wanting to send bombs over there to blow up schools over there, you want resources here to build schools here that you can aspire to a higher

office like the U.S. Senate, and you can achieve that regardless of the direction which you pray or how many syllables are in your first name. And I say this as somebody, obviously, you know, my name is Abdullah. His name is Abdul Rahman. He's an epidemiologist. I'm an epidemiologist. Now, he's a doctor and a physician, which we'll get into the joke later with my mother. But this is somebody who I relate to on a multitude of levels because I see myself in him. And as somebody who grew up in the post-9-11 era where I did not think things could get worse, I'm growing up now as a father of my own children. And I fear for the America that they have to grow up.

And because of the vitriol, having watched a genocide unfold and live stream for the world to see, and nobody with power intervening and advocating on behalf of the oppressed. And I think that is what has led us to this moment. today. I mean, there's this great irony that Abdullah Said is saying, let's stop focusing on the Middle East so much. Why don't we actually focus on America and Michigan and our own voters? And I think that's the scariest message of all for the establishment, because they've been robbing us on behalf of all of their donors, the oil companies, the drug companies, all of them for our entire lives. So when an American comes by, no matter what his religion is and says,

hey, maybe we should stop the robbery, that's when they start to panic. And look, on the name, I have a really interesting perspective on this because my name is Jank Uger. So it's kind of a vague name. Before people knew that I grew up Muslim, I actually didn't get a lot of discrimination. Only after I kind of outed myself as a Muslim American growing up, I'm an atheist now, but that's my background. Did I get much more hate and vitriol against me? Oh, well, then you should be deported, et cetera.

And of course, led by Laura Lumer, Mark Levin. and that Zionist network that I mentioned earlier. And of course they say, oh, no, no, no, that discrimination against Muslims, our media says, it doesn't happen. And they invalidate our experience, they invalidate our identity and our actual experience. I actually think mainstream media is one of the biggest opponents that we have. So it shows you the power of those names, but where did the power of the name come from? The power to scare you, the power to get you to not like that person or look at them in a wary way.

Well, it came from propaganda, right? The overwhelming propaganda that they did against us. You know, we have, we're the home to the National Arab American Museum. And one of the most beautiful exhibits in this museum is how Arab Americans have been portrayed in all forms of media since the beginning of time. And if you go through that more oftentimes than not, the Arab American was often also a Muslim. is portrayed as the villain. And every media you can think from children's movies like Jafar and Aladdin to a lot of the mainstream movies that we all grew up watching.

And so this has been perpetuated for decades upon decades upon decades, only now for us to have outlets where you have folks who are Muslim American or grew up Muslim American or have families that are Muslim and friends that are Muslim on these, you know, because of social media and proliferation, our own outlets speaking to our own stories, shattering the narratives that have been painted about us for. so long and I think that is what is so powerful with a candidate like Abdul again. He's an individual who is a wholly American who has a truly American story, the son of immigrants and the rise that he has had who has worked as a public health director in the city of Detroit and Wayne County Public

Health Department now on the verge of hopefully winning this US Senate race and really shattering all expectations for what Americans Muslim Americans can achieve. And so I can't tell you how thrilled and excited I am for his candidacy, especially again for a candidate. that wants to get the money out of the politics, which has influenced for decades what has happened to so many Americans on the ground. Now, if I can just take a minute to share my own post-9-11 story, you know, I was 11 years old when that happened. And my mom who observes the hijab, when she picked us up from school that day, a car cut us off, for Lector Ralph Tiller, go back to your country. And that week, when I was walking home from school, again, as an 11-year-old

boy, there was a gentleman who pulled a gun out from the second floor of his house, pointed I said, keep walking before I just have to shoot you Muslim kids. This is something that people are indoctrinated with. They're indoctrinated to hate and otherwise brown people, black people, people who pray differently, people with a Muslim sounding name. And so this is a great opportunity for us to reset and to demonstrate that in America, if you're running on the set of values to uplift working Americans and advocate for all Americans, there is no glass ceiling and the sky is the limit.

So how do you think the election is going right now? Because of course, everybody is watching Michigan. I keep saying, I really think it's absolutely true. It's the most important non-presidential election of my lifetime. And I've never said that about any other race before. So with all eyes on Michigan, how do you see the race right now? The enthusiasm is real. I can tell you, for example, in the city of Dearborn in this August primary election, we had the highest voter turnout for a midterm primary primary primary. in the city's history, which was phenomenal, especially knowing that Abdul won by less than 1% margin in this primary race. I am hearing about the race wherever I go, neighborhood association meetings, neighborhood walks.

You're obviously seeing it plastered all over social media with all the ads and the outside spending that's coming in. But the enthusiasm is here. We're obviously seeing a pouring in of surrogates coming in to advocate on both sides. But all eyes are on Michigan. I'm hoping that folks are enthusiastic as they, get ready to come out and vote. And voting has already started, right?

The absentees are out. People are already returning their absentee ballots. Early voting will commence in just a few weeks' time. And then you have Election Day this November. And so, but I think the enthusiasm is there. And the enthusiasm is most certainly on the Dr. Abdul al-Syid's side. In this primary election, we had 500,000 more Democratic votes than Republican votes in the state of Michigan. And so if that's also a sign that things are looking positive, but we can't slow down.

and I know certainly he is not and he's traveling the whole state, making sure that people are aware when the election is and how they can vote. It feels like there should be 99% voter turnout in Dearborn. I know there won't be, but it feels like there should be. So what's, I think you said this once before, so I wanted to go back to it. But you said it in a different speech. Do you think Dearborn made the difference in the primary since the election was so close in the primary? I think you can make the argument. You know, Dr. Abdul-Said won about 15,000 votes.

There were about 15,000 votes out of Durban alone that went for Dr. Abdul-Said. And so I certainly think one can make the argument that, you know, the Arab-American and Muslim-American enthusiasm could have been the difference in the primary election. But you can say that about, you know, other communities as well. But I certainly think it's real, especially knowing that it was the highest order turnout of a midterm primary in the city's history. So I think that is a data point that we hang our head on and extremely proud of. And for this general election, we're hoping that we can do the same. I don't know about 99% voter turnout. We're certainly hoping that we have the highest voter turnout for a midterm general ever before.

And I think people are watching one of the silver linings of all the negative spending that's happening in the race is people are growing aware of an election that is happening right now. And they're not fooled by any of the ads. You know, yes, Dr. Abdul-Aid passes gas. I think he farts, just like any other human being. But if that is the worst attack ad that you have, then you know certainly things aren't going so well for that campaign. I mean, what's next? He also, you know, I do want to get at that topic.

But, you know, we have to be ready and encouraging our voters to come out to cast their ballots and to make sure you let your friends, family and neighbors know. And I'll be doing that all early voting and I'll be doing that on Election Day as well. Yeah. So I didn't even know that. If that's as they're running, that means Abdullah's. Yeah, that's the attack at debate. Yeah, that's, that's, that means he.

He's led the cleanest life in America. Because they dug and Doug and dug came out with nothing. Okay, just absolute. You know he once burped after having a Coke? Oh, that's the best you got? Oh, my God. And of course, I'm kidding about 99% voter turnout. That's impossible these days.

But over 50% would be amazing these days in America. And people are animated enough. Look, from my point of view, I think Mike Rogers, somebody would have to have their head examined to vote for him. he literally said that he would support Israel unconditionally. There is nothing that Israel could do, whether it's genocide or something against America, that would make him rethink it. He gets paid by the Israeli lobby, and he has said on that record that he would serve them

unconditionally. So why would you give your Senate seat to a foreign nation? It just makes no sense at all. So there's no logical argument for supporting Mike Rogers. Even two years ago when he met with some Arab American leaders on 24, when he ran for US Senate then, he would not publicize that he met with Arab Americans and Muslim Americans out of fear of backlash from his party. So he's not even somebody that recognizes me as an equal, as a human being. He doesn't even have that decency within him. So most certainly,

Mike Riders would be the wrong way. And I highly doubt that Michiganers are being swayed by his false propaganda and media operation. So Abdullah, you're now very successful in your chosen a profession of politics. You're the mayor of this kind of pivotal town in America, often talked about. You were in the state legislature before. But your mom didn't want you to do that, did she? Yeah, no, my mom was not the greatest fan of my political endeavors. And I think the story is some 10 years ago, I was elected first to the state house. And at the time, I was the only Muslim in the legislature in the House and the Senate. And my mother, was there with me at the swearing-in ceremony.

And after I took my oath of office and swore in, she hugged me and she was crying. And she told me, I want you to know how proud I am of you. But then she paused and she continued. And she said, I would have been more proud if you were a doctor, though. And that's a 100% true story. And, you know, I have a brother who's the lawyer, another who's a dentist and a sister who is a nurse practitioner. And she's, let's just say she's far more proud and hoping that I aspire to be like them one day. my wife. My wife is a physician. And I think she would hope that I'd be more like my wife

growing up one day. See, you got to tell that story more because that way you pick up a lot of Asian votes, South Asian votes. Because all immigrants can relate to, oh, you were incredibly successful, but you weren't a doctor. So. Yeah, when my mom sees doctor, he'll say running, and she's like, look, he has two doctoral degrees. You have zero. Why can't you be more like, So yeah, I'm still working my way up in her ranks in terms of where the children fall. I'm, I can't wait for Abdul to be sworn in in the Capitol and his mom to tell him, I wish you to stay the doctor. Totally possible. All right. Mayor Abdullah Hamoud, good to see your brother. Looking forward to seeing you in Dearborn again, which by the way, I'll be there October 21st at an Arab American event. So if anybody's in the area, come on out.

And we have actually had Schwarma together. So I am familiar with the Schwarma Law and Deerboard. Okay. Thank you so much for having me and I'll see you in a few weeks at the event as well. All right, wonderful. Thanks for coming on. We appreciate her brother. All right guys.

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