The Young Turks - Musk VS. Rubio

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Trump Ass-Kisser ADMITS He’s Scared About Trump Tariffs. Marco Rubio and Elon Musk fight during a cabinet meeting?! State Dept. to use AI to revoke visas of foreign students who appear "pro-Hamas." Hosts: John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Jordan Uhl SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞ https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER ☞ https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH ☞ https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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All right, first we start on another topic. Yes, as fun as that's gonna be, and I love some spicy drums. We have things that are arguably substantively more important. And so we'll be starting with that. And it has to do with the fact that other than Donald Trump, basically nobody likes these trade wars that we start and then stop and then reverse and then we threaten and then we do it again. And so the pushback has begun among right wingers to Trump's face, actually. And that's where we'll begin with Maria Barteromo. I think CEOs want to see predictability. They say, look, I have to speak with shareholders. I've got to make plans for capex spending. I can't if it's 20% one day and then it's off for a month and it's 25%.

So can you give us a sense of whether or not we're going to get clarity for the business community? Well, I think so. But, you know, the tariffs could go up as time goes by and they may go up. And, you know, I don't know if it's predictability. I think that's not clarity. No, it's not clarity and it's not predictability either. I don't know how he defines that. But, I mean, it seems likely that they'll go up.

It's Donald Trump. That's the only direction that these things have moved in. But again, she is there to represent the business interests that, look, justifiably, they put Donald Trump in power. They're the ones who control the Republican Party. And she doesn't want to turn off the Trump base. She doesn't want to turn off regular Fox viewers. But she also has to deliver for the business interests that are the point of all of this. And so thus the pushback.

And so we want to give Trump a chance. Maybe he's got a little bit more than that. Here's how we responded. I think that they say that. You know, it sounds good to say. But for years, the globalists, the big globalists, have been ripping off the United States. They've been taking money away from the United States. And all we're doing is getting some of it back.

And we're going to treat our country fairly. This country has been ripped off from every nation in the world, every company outside in the world. We've been ripped off at levels never seen before. And all we're going to do is get it back. We're going to get a lot of it back. I appreciate irony as much as the next guy in hearing Donald Trump say that Americans have been ripped off for too long as he tells them they can and will pay 20 to 30% more for virtually everything they buy is deeply ironic. I appreciate that. But that said, the pushback is here. Not only Maria Bartaromo, other Republicans elected ones, we have a Democrat as well. But before we get to that, Jank, what do you think?

Yeah, so look, this story is amazing. It's got twists and turns. It's got Republican and Republican crime. as predicted and it's now arrived, but it also has two Fox News hosts making it super interesting point and then making an absolutely ridiculous point in like the span of two sentences. So I can't wait to get to that as well, but overall like if Donald Trump was really fighting the globalist, making sure America doesn't get ripped off, I'd be totally in favor of that. Are you kidding me? Fighting global corporations to make sure you protect the average American, that's what we're all about. But is he really doing that? Doesn't look like it. But John, one of the interesting

things here is the internal fight. Because when business interests are aligned with Trump, everything's smooth sailing. And there's no problems. Everybody, except for the average American who's going to get robbed to bejesus, right? Like, say, I'm looking out for the average American. That's what we're going to do, $4.5 trillion in tax cuts for the super, super rich, okay? So when they're aligned, they're going to push that agenda through, but they're not aligned now, which then makes things a little bit harder for them. That's not so bad. That's good for the rest of us. Yeah, and they don't want chaos. Businesses, you know, thinking long term or even just medium term, they don't want that sort of chaos. It's not been

good for the stock market. You can just take a look if you want. There is, looks in the short term, I've been speculating on my show for some time that it is certainly convenient as a billionaire to be able to raise and lower the stock market like you're flipping a light switch. You know, you announce a trade war, stocks dip. You and your rich buddies get to buy stocks when they're low and then you say, ah, we're actually not going to do the trade war. So the stocks go back up. That's convenient for a nice little return in about a week's time. But that's chaos. And that's maybe good for some individuals. But the major corporations, they're massive donors. They don't want any of that. And so let's sort of run through the week in trade wars.

So as you know, the beginning of this week, Trump announced that the 25% announced tariffs on most Canadian and Mexican imports would actually go into effect. But since then, we had on one day he decided, oh, actually not for cars, we're not going to do that, so that's good, I guess. And then the next day it was announced, we're not going to do it at all, actually, for about a month, which we've already been through one cycle of that, where he had said we're doing it and then they waited a month, now we're doing that one more time. So I guess we get to play this game again sometime in the beginning.

of April. And why exactly he decided to back off? He gives different answers depending on who asks him and when they ask. In the interview with Maria Barteromo, he just says, I want to help out Canada in Mexico. But like, you're the one who launched it. How are you helping them by just not doing the thing that you said you were going to do? It's strange. And he gets even more personal. Here, he was talking about the president of Mexico and he said, I did this as an accommodation. And out of respect for President Shinebaum, our relationship has been a very good one and we were working hard together on the border capitalized for some reason, both in terms of stopping capital I illegal aliens from entering the United States and

likewise stopping fentanyl, thank you to President Scheinbaum for your hard work and cooperation, which is interesting because that's actually the excuse he gave the last time when he delayed the trade war. He said that they made these accommodations on sending soldiers to the border and stopping fentanyl. Now when you actually fact check that, most of those agreements had already been made in December under Joe Biden's administration. He's not even saying this time what the new part is supposed to be, but he's saying there's something to do with her. And he said that the reason they were backing off on the tariffs affecting the big

three auto manufacturers is because they've made promises to move more of their supply chain domestically, which again, not a bad result if he actually got that. That's one reason potentially to engage in these sort of tariff games. It's a very long-term play. And he's not been honest from the very beginning about the actual economic pain that people would suffer, probably for years before those supply chains are moved. And also, there's no indication that that's actually happened, but I guess it's a good cover story at the very least. And so there's now these carve outs, but again, not on everything. And the market will likely largely recover for now, but people are going to be wary that in a month's time,

we're just going to return to the same sort of thing. And so that's where we're at. We'll get to some of the other Republicans opining in a bit, but Jenk, what do you think? Yeah, so I have the answer. He has no idea what he's doing. That's why he did. Okay, and he AB tests. Those are the two things that are always constant with Donald Trump. So look, we tell you what's going to happen ahead of time so you know who to trust and who not to. And you can analyze it for yourself. So we're not Monday morning quarterbacking. Okay, so what did I tell you? I told you that he's, he tests different things out. And then if things don't go well for him, the poll numbers go down,

Republicans get attacked in town halls, the senators rebel, or the different things that he looks, Oh, the stock market crashes, that's his number one indicator, right? Those things happen. And then he immediately goes, oh, okay, that A didn't work. Let me try B, right? So he, and then that's why he proposed it, even though it made no sense because he never does any planning. No planning at all.

If you remember Jim Kramer on the day that they announced a new Canada and Mexico tariffs, he's like, wait, I don't get it. I talked to business interests. And they're all asking, wait, how is this even applied? Who do we pay? like even the most bare bones obvious elementary part of executing a tariff was not done because they never plan anything. Trump just goes, yeah, I'm going to put 21% back on Canada, make the go.

But brother, you said cut out the fentanyl and they did and actually Canada did a terrific job, got it down to less than 1% of the fentanyl entering the country when it was a much higher number, et cetera, then you just shocked them out of nowhere for no reason, because apparently you just wanted to do these tariffs. And I know why, and by the way, I'll get to that in a second too. And then when they don't work out, the stock market crashes, all the Republicans complain, all of a sudden, back, pedal, back, pedal, back, but as predicted, that's what he does. So look, and by the way, you want that. You don't want him digging in and go, oh, yeah, I'm now going to make him 35%, 45%, because that ends in disaster. When he doesn't dig in any flip-flops,

That's a good thing, not a bad thing. The fact that he doesn't have any planning at all, bad thing, period, bad thing, okay? So why did he go back to doing the tariffs in the first, in this second time around when Canada and Mexico had actually had complied with everything that he demanded? Because he wants to be able to say, oh, no, no, the tariffs and the gold card is going to pay for the four and a half trillion dollar tax cuts. Because that's what they're gonna push through right now. So they already did that vote last week, now they're gonna go into the committees. and come up with the specific proposals. So that's why the doge cuts came in in the beginning.

And that's why they were a hatchet and not a scalpel because they wanted to say, oh, what do you mean? Oh, we're cutting so much. And the tariffs, it's magically going to create $5 trillion, $8 trillion. Let's make up a number to replace the $4.5 trillion that we're about to give away to all my donors. That's the whole point of all of this. But he did A-B test and it didn't work for him. Jordan.

Yeah, I think we're hearing this term more and more. It's this madman theory of governance. If you've seen economists, you've seen analysts on financial networks, describe his behavior and his administration's actions as such. Like you're saying, I don't think he had a plan here. I also don't think he was prepared for Shinebom and Trudeau to call his bluff. I think they're so used to America being able to throw its weight around and other countries just acquiesce that they maybe were caught a little off guard.

And once they saw the market go into a spiral again, you had a huge drop, one of the worst weeks in years this week in the stock market. I think we know who Trump ultimately serves. It's not the people. It is the capitalist class. It's billionaires. It's Wall Street's corporate and special interests. Enough people have Besson's ear or other people in Trump administration's ears that discourage them from going through with these. We'll see if now in April that they they follow through with this. But I don't think that they will just because it is so, it's poised to again send the market into a free fall. Yeah, certainly a little like that. And we're not the only ones who seem to notice that, us or business leaders. Politicians are starting to respond to it as well. So we'll turn now to that.

More and more Republican senators, perhaps fearing the effect that this economic chaos and turmoil might have on their own real. election bids coming up in the midterms, which are shaping up to be pretty devastating for the Republicans, are beginning to push back when it comes to Donald Trump's trade war. Here's a little compilation of senators just taken over the last day or so, all starting to indicate that they're done with this whole thing. Almost every industry in Kentucky's going to be and said he'll hurt our industry and push up prices of homes, cars, and so I want to continue to argue against terror. Should he back off if it goes, if it starts to hurt the situation?

start losing you back off. There's such a thing as a strategic retreat. The end of the day, I think we have more leverage than any other nation, but we've got to be smart and we don't have all the leverage. You remember the old saying, um, the danger of rising high is that the air gets thin. Um, I'm worried about the tariffs. Yeah. I'm not saying that tariffs are going to cause inflation. President Trump did them in his first term and they didn't. I'm saying that we just don't know. We're in very obscure territory. We're in uncharted waters. I think if the tariffs do start to cause inflation, I think the president will back away from them. And I'm not saying that I don't trust President Trump. But there's another saying, you know, trust in God,

but tie up your camel. Look, I can only speak for myself, but I appreciate Senator Kennedy saying that. I don't appreciate him saying it in a voice that sounds like the most over-the-top impersonation of people who actually come from Louisiana, but I appreciate the words that he said, if not the tone. But I think that Senator Foghorn, Lighthorn, had a pretty good point there. And so those are normally Donald Trump's allies, but they're pushing back as much as they can. They can't go too far. Donald Trump's base is ready to, at least at this point, they've even felt the pain of, you know, $15 eggs.

So they have to be a little bit tentative. But let's turn now to someone who's generally not necessarily an ally of Donald Trump. This is president of the UAW, Sean Fahan. UAW has been applauded. This aggressive action that we've seen from Trump saying he's going to take on tariffs. With this pause, what do you say tonight? Well, thanks for having me, Caitlin. Look, you know, the Trump administration has acknowledged that the USMCA didn't go far enough. And, you know, there's an urgency around all this to fix this problem. And the working class expects action now. So we're looking forward to the administration, putting tariffs on auto in place in April and working to fix our broken trade laws. And, you know, I know the companies have been, you know, communicating that, you know, they need time. I mean, you can't just open a plant over and. night. So I know there's some concerns there, but at the end of the day, you know,

over to last, you know, since NAF is inception, we've seen over 90,000 factories leave this nation. We want to see action. And tariffs, to me, they're not the total solution, but they are a piece of the puzzle to, to get these companies to move. Strange times are living in. Jake, what do you think? Yeah. So it's interesting that the unions are in favor of it. The Republican senators are against it. And, but it's because of their self-interest, including the unions. Now, that's the auto workers, and they want more jobs here in America. And that is, they think more likely to lead to more jobs in the long run. But in order for that to work, as Tom Tillis said, and I think this was telling, it's,

he said, I'm not arguing against tariffs. I'm not arguing that this can't work, but we have to do it in a smart way. The implication being, the president did not do it in a smart way. And that is obviously true, right? So if you, there are some versions of tariffs that we agree with, including reciprocal tariffs, and there are some that you could do, but you have to do it in a measured way that has been tested out, okay, what are, what's a number where it makes sense, where it doesn't lead to inflation, but still protects jobs? Does that number exist? How do we implement it? How long do we implement it? But here's what the answer isn't, which is, I don't know, let's put it in, let's take it out, let's put it in, take it out.

That's definitely not the right answer. So let me go to our audience for two things here, and then we'll bring Jordan in. Bloated Ego is a member on t.com. Can you also become a member at tyt.com? Oh, yeah, you can't be part of the show. All right, so anyway, he wrote in, AB testing is okay on the campaign trail, but it's not when you're president. All you do is look like an idiot and further destroy our respecting credibility throughout the world.

Yeah, I mean, look, both Elon and Trump think that this is like a really smart way to manage. Let's just blunder in, and this comes from Silicon Valley, move fast and break things. Yeah, but when you're in charge of the government, it's not, oh, I broke a company. Well, well, right? No, that affects Americans' lives and the job of the government is to protect us, not to break us. So it's just a super bad strategy misapplied in the government and done in a ham-handed way. And then Boomer Dragon Cat said, oh, another member on t.yt.com, the cost of living has been too high since 1990, only gotten worse since then. The have-nots rubbing against the haves without

a middle class, the buffer is bad news. I think Cat is so right about that. And amazingly, and shockingly enough, before we bring Jordan back in, I want to show you a clip from Fox. This is Barteroma and Charles Payne. And they're going to say a couple of interesting things here. So let's watch together. And I think already the streets looking at three rate cuts this year, maybe Powell says something that makes them think that could be even more. Between the job support and Powell's comments, we could even see even more. Because that's going to be one of the things that pulls this market out of a tailspend. Yeah, but if you're expecting three rate cuts, that, look, if we get three rate cuts by the Fed, that means you're talking about a dire financial situation.

You're talking about recession. Three rate cuts, recession. Right now, right now with just 10% of the population buying 50% of the goods and all of the so-called excess cash long gone from the bottom, bottom, you know, 75% of this country, most people are already in a recession. Almost everything that we use in measure our economy is so way off that there's a massive disconnect between Wall Street economists and Main Street. And that's why you get the things that we got in November. All right. We'll see if Joe Biden's recession shows up. Come on, now all of a sudden, it's Joe Biden's recession, but let me guess. If there's no recession, the common does great, that is not Joe Biden's economy.

That's Donald Trump's economy. But if he screws it up royally with Trump's tariffs, it'll be Biden's fault. Okay, got it. So that's the funny part, and I wanted to make sure that you guys saw that, because they're hilarious. But as you see there, they're criticizing the tariffs, and they're saying this is not helping the economy, and the economy's off to a super rough start. That confession was fairly clear, and it was even more clear in the whole segment.

But to me, the most interesting part was Charles Payne, who is super right way, sounding like a progressive there, accidentally, but listen to what he's saying. He's saying the bottom 75% have no excess cash left at all. They can't afford to buy anything. 50% of the goods are bought by only the top 10%. What is that? That's because of income inequality. The top 10% have everything, and the bottom 90% have almost nothing.

So that's what Bernie Sanders has been talking about. And that didn't happen right as Trump got in. That didn't happen during Biden. That happened through the course of the last 50 years. And so the money has moved all the way to the top. And now they're the only ones buying anything. But you need the bottom 90% to buy things in order to have a, healthy economy, let alone a moral economy and a moral system, et cetera.

So, and then Maria Bartaromo, back to sanity. Like I'm surprised any, she know, anytime she says something that's correct. If we have three rate cuts, that does mean we've spiraled down into a recession. She's right about that. I'm like, huh, Barteromo didn't fully lose her mind. And she challenged Trump on this seesawing tariffs. But overall, the last thing is when he talked about that disconnect, between what people in power talk about and the economy as in the stock market, et cetera,

and what 75% of Americans or 90% of Americans feel and live in, that reality that they live in. And that's the number one issue because the people in power have no idea how angry the other 90% are because they don't know them and they don't live their lives and they don't know that they're all out of money and they're getting crushed by this system because not only do they, not experience that they experienced the opposite. The money has moved up. So the top 10% is having the time of their lives going, I don't understand why anybody's upset. But Biden's fine. Oh, Trump's gonna get more tax cuts, fine. We're gonna run Buttigieg next time, fine. Everything's great. What are you guys upset about? But look at two Fox hosts beginning to realize,

oh, that's why people are upset. And you're seeing it in the economic numbers. Jordan. rate cut issue, Jerome Powell is saying that they're just going to wait this out. Why would he make a decision now when he doesn't know what Trump's trade policy is going to be when it comes to tariffs? And then Chris DeLuzio has an op-ed in the New York Times today. He's representative from Pennsylvania's 17th. He's a Democrat, but that's a swing district. He's saying, look, don't summarily dismiss tariffs. Jank, you've talked about how reciprocal tariffs could be good. Of course, there's a trade deficit with China because of disastrous trade policies in the past and people moving jobs overseas where you can get cheaper labor in places like China, we've become

reliant on China for a lot of manufacturing. He's saying, hey, if you want to address this, it has to be consistent, it has to be stable, and it has to be smart. Trump's offering none of those things. So I think as progressives, as liberals, as whatever, wherever you are on the left, it's wise to think about these things as one tool in an array of trade policies that can create a more level playing field. Do I think Donald Trump is the person? And do I think the Donald Trump, the Donald Trump administration is the administration that will do that in a smart way that puts workers first? Absolutely not. 100% not. Yeah. And look, as I've been saying from the very beginning, there are theoretically

benefits to tariffs, even very high tariffs like he's doing. You can make the case that long term it leads to factories moving back here and all of that stuff. He's, but then you need to to be honest with people. You need to be upfront and say, yeah, it's gonna be really tough for a year or two, or maybe even five, but we're building a new America. And yes, a lot of the products that you buy are gonna be more expensive in the short term. And businesses are gonna sell less products overseas. But you know what? Not only am I gonna be honest with you about that, but the government's gonna be there to make sure that businesses that desperately need subsidies during that bridging period, we're gonna have that for you.

We're gonna try to find other ways to bring down. He's not doing any of that. He's implying that we're gonna have our cake and eat it too. We're to do these massive tariffs. It's not gonna raise prices literally at all. So people are gonna have massive economic whiplash when it does, which almost certainly has political implications for the Republicans going forward. He's not promising governmental support for these industries. He's just sort of assuming that factories will blossom naturally over the next two years.

There is a way that you could do this. And he's just not doing that, either because he doesn't care or he doesn't know or combination of both. Yeah, last word goes to yet another one of our members on t-y-t.com, Nostra science. He says, everyone knows it's George Washington's recession. Fair, I mean at this joint address the other night, Donald Trump said that he was even better than George Washington. The man's always humble, okay, so gonna hear Washington came in second in whatever it was. Okay, so there is a theme in what we're saying, the Republicans are saying, what they're saying on Fox,

which is this is not the right way to do things. And literally the whole country agrees this time. 100%. Okay, we're gonna take our first break. We come back. We're gonna get to the drums that we were talking about. Elon versus Rubio and you love to see it. All right, back on T.O.T. Jank, John and Jordan with you guys. And Sharon Ann Konek. Thank you for hitting. As I've said from time, time that beautiful join button below, right below the video on YouTube. If you're on, by the way, on a cell phone, scroll down a little bit, you'll see it. And then Dave Jones, amazing American hero for upgrading. You could also upgrade through the join button. I thank you for supporting the show and for supporting the community. We'll love that guys. All right, John, what's next?

We do. We love that, and I think there's a good chance you'll love this. Since you last spoke about that yesterday, some details have come out about your captain meeting with Yvonne Musk and some clashes, potentially. Between Secretary Rubio and Secretary. No clash. I was there. You're just a troublemaker. And you're not supposed to be asking that question because we're talking about the World Cup. Elon gets along great with Marco, and they're both doing a fantastic job. There is no clash. With Mr. President, who are you in?

NBC. Oh, no wonder. Who has more authority? Yvonne Musk and the secretary? Any other questions? Yeah, so he was a little bit uncomfortable there. He went to all of his standard things. It's NBC, you're not supposed to be asking that question.

Again, they're journalists, they can ask whatever they want. I don't like that he started to refer to Elon Musk as a secretary. I don't like normalizing that at all. But Donald Trump did not like this line of questioning at all, especially because it implies some sort of leaker in his cabinet, potentially. But the New York Times did do a report that evidently in this most recent meeting, Elon Musk and Marco Rubio got into it. And it got so bad that Trump actually had to jump in and he defended one of them, wait until you find out who it is. But Jake, we've been expecting

Elon Musk to have a fallout. We thought with Trump, this is with Rubio. Is that almost as good? No, it's great because the pushbag is now begun in earnest. It's all the way up to the cabinet secretaries. Because it starts with a little bit of somebody on the right wing going, wait, is this right? I don't know about that. And then you see a poll number and you see stock market doing poorly and then it filters up. And then some Republican congressmen, the senators. And now we're all the way up at cabinet secretaries going, what the hell is this?

And so I'm going to be forced to tell you that either Marco Rubio or Elon Musk is right in a minute. Uncomfortable situations, but one of them is right. I'll tell you that in a second. But the fact that they're having this huge fight is interesting. And John, actually Trump let it play out for a long time until it got awkward, according to the people in the room. And then finally he weighed in on the side of one of these folks. as we're about to tell you. And good, good, because that means they're calibrating and recalibrating.

So what you don't want them doing is running full speed off a cliff. Yeah, like you think, oh, well, that's good, that they'll ruin themselves. Yeah, but they'll also ruin the country. So the fact that Rubio is pushing back against Elon turns out to be a pretty great thing. Yeah, we'll get into the details. Yeah, you're probably wondering, what is he pushing back against? There's certainly a lot of material that you could do that on. Well, it had to do with Musk accusing Rubio of not firing enough of employees at the State Department.

He said, you have fired nobody. Then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from Musk's Department of Government Efficiency. According to the Times, Rubio was also mad at Musk for obliterating USAID funding and a bunch of, a lot of the programs that they were talking about cutting were not actually even under USAID. There were State Department programs. And so a lot of those cuts directly affect. Marco Rubio and Musk's comments appeared to have pushed Rubio over the edge. Rubio said, Musk was not being truthful. What about the more than 1,500 State Department officials who took early retirement and buyouts?

Didn't they count his layoffs? He asked sarcastically whether Musk wanted to rehire all those people just so he can make a show firing them again, which is funny. Then he laid out his detailed plans for reorganizing the State Department. And yeah, first of all, that alludes to the fact that apparently, Apparently, a lot of departments have been like logging people who've either recently left or already planned to leave as new firings. They're sort of gaming the system.

And they seem to understand now that Musk and his group of twinks or whatever are like so, they're so incompetent that they don't even know that they're being played in this case. So Mark Rubio might be having a little bit of fun with that. But Musk was unimpressed by this argument. He told Rubio he was quote, good on TV with the clear subtext being that he was not good for much else. And as Jake alluded to, it went on and on. Everybody got really uncomfortable. And so Trump actually stepped in, but not to defend his de facto vice president. He was actually there to defend Marco Rubio. He said that Rubio was doing a great job. Rubio has a lot to deal with

the president said he's very busy. He's always traveling and on TV and he has an agency to run. So everyone just needs to work together. But bear in mind, this wasn't the only disagreement that Musk had with one of these secretary, the secretaries of the cabinets. Sean Duffy, recently Transportation Secretary, previously of reality TV. He said that the young staff of Musk's team was trying to lay off air traffic controllers, saying, quote, what am I supposed to do? I have multiple plane crashes to deal with now, and your people want me to fire air traffic controllers, which Musk called a lie.

It's not, we've already adjudicated that, we're not going through all of it again. But at another point, Musk insisted that people hired under diversity, equity, and inclusion programs were working in control towers. Duffy pushed back and Musk did not add details because of course he doesn't know what he's talking about. But let's say that he's right. Why is he bringing it up? Because he wants to laud their presence in these towers? No, the implication is that he would then want them to be fired. So after saying to Duffy, no, we're not telling you to fire people. He then goes on to say, oh, but these, you know, members of the LGBTQ community or women, black and brown people, you should probably start firing

them even if they're air traffic controllers. So again, Rubio, I guess is the more high profile one, but Duffy too maybe is starting to feel a little bit emboldened to push back against Musk. Yeah, so a lot of great developments here. So first, Elon Musk acting like he's the boss of all the cabinet secretaries are sitting there. I mean, literally like he's the president, yelling at the secretary of state, yelling at different cabinet secretaries, that's unheard of. Even the vice president never yells at cabinet secretaries, because it's not his role. The only person who could tell them what to do is the president. So it's just extraordinary for a must to come in and bully these guys, as if he's running the whole place.

And then Trump lets him do it for so long here, it's amazing. And remember, never, forget that he's his Trump's top donor. This is like George Soros coming into a cabinet meeting in Biden's time and telling Anthony Blinkin, all right, you're not doing that Israeli policy. Shut up and do this. And you, you didn't fire enough people. I'm the top donor. I get to tell you what to do. That's mental. It's mental. If it happened under Biden, which it didn't, he cares a ton about donors, but he didn't get to that outrageous circus level with his donors. Now with Trump, he's just so over the top, right? I'm surprised he didn't bring Miriam Adelson in to lecture them on foreign policy, right?

But hold for it, it probably will happen. He already gave her a presidential medal of freedom for all the bribes. I mean, campaign contributions he's taken from that family. And then Trump, I'm sorry, Musk started lecturing them about how he runs multiple multi-billion dollar companies so he knows best. Again, imagine Soros coming in and going, I'm one of the greatest investors in world history, which is true, and I've made hundreds of billions of dollars, so shut up, I'm richer than you. I get to decide what happens.

All of this is not within a billion miles of normal. And then finally, on all the things that were going wrong in that meeting and so interesting and different, must starts telling the wild outrageous conspiracy theories in life. as John partially referred to there about these guys. Oh yeah, you've got a DEI guys doing air traffic control. I know it. Ha ha ha ha, it's the lesbian, gay people, black people or something. Whatever he thinks DEI is, right?

And then Duffy's like, it's not true. And I can't let you say that and not corrected. And because otherwise we're going to fire air traffic controllers when we desperately need air traffic controllers. And then there's going to be more plane crashes than it's my ass on. on the line, it's Donald Trump, it's our whole party, just because you're like, oh, DEI, fire him, fire him, I heard somebody was on the inola gay, that sounds gay, fire him. That's also later, hex of actually literally did that, but we'll get to that later in the show. So they had, Rubio and Duffy had the courage to call out the madman in the room, and he's

getting the Howard Hughes levels here. Like, so you could try this stuff on X and all the Musk stands will pile it and go, you're so right, Elon, you're so rich Elon, you must be right, you're such a genius, Elon, right? But he's actually crazed. I haven't seen a guy this unbalanced in a long time. And he never does what he actually says. Like, oh, where's the cuts on the Pentagon? They're going to add $100 billion in the Pentagon. Nowhere, right? Where's all, like, where's the waste fraud and abuse? Oh, we cut malaria and cancer treatment. That's not waste fraud and abuse. Now they had to put the cancer treatment back in. First, the court stopped him and now the but now the Republicans are going, oh,

this super awkward. Even Mike Johnson had to go out there and go, no, no, no, no, we didn't mean to cut cancer treatment because they have a madman in charge. So this was the first time that he was checked and finally Trump weighs in and and says, no, the cabinet secretaries are in charge, Rubio is right. And in a shocking turn of events, because now there's so much Republican on Republican crime, you got to pick sides and see who's a more rational one. loathe Marco Rubio, establishment neocan through and through. But on this particular fight,

he was right. And Trump did weigh in on his side. Jordan. Yeah, there's a couple things here. So multiple biographers have characterized Musk as always feeling like and believing and behaving like he's the smartest person in the room. And you can look at the past few weeks of Doge's actions. And you can see this is clearly not the case from the, the, the, the reckless cuts like you talk about to cancer research to cutting funding for Ebola prevention saying, oh, we made a mistake, but it was restored immediately. Further reporting showed it was not restored immediately. But then going after USAID, Marker Rubio, like you said, we don't like him. This guy's a hawk, but he knows the role that USAID plays in soft power around the world.

So of course he wants that untouched. He wants that to be as influential as possible. This This guy is no stranger and he's certainly a tri-leader for regime change, intervention, undermining governments in different countries. He knows the role USAID has played in that throughout history. He wants that unscathed. While there were buyouts to shrink it a little bit, he doesn't want Elon Musk and a bunch of kids who don't know anything about the government going in and messing things up even further.

Same thing with Duffy. These guys, like we don't like them, but they know how to operate in the government and then you have someone like you're saying jank who thinks just because he runs these companies let's be clear here he invested in Tesla he didn't build it from scratch he became the CEO of Tesla after it was already created he is a man of smoke and mirrors that many people have bought into this phony bogus genius origin story for him the guy is not as smart as he wants you to think he is. He doesn't work nearly as hard as he wants you to think he does. And he's run multiple companies, he's running X into the ground. Tesla's stock price is falling off. And if it wasn't

for massive government contracts to Space X and ultimately Starlink, one of its subsidiaries, and now what seems to be, if successful, in a legal contract taken from Verizon and just given to him, that company would be nowhere near as profitable as it is. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting like you point out the smoke and mirrors like I feel like Musk and Trump have so many interesting overlaps both of them had this long period in their career where the media who's always ready to tell you that billionaires are better than you smarter than you better than looking than you they did that for both of them year after year after year with Trump it wasn't

true he's going bankrupt constantly Elon Musk was relying on all these contracts and all that and he didn't build this stuff but they were always ready to do another op-ed and anytime they'd launch a product they'd be like oh he says it's gonna be X and it's gonna cost Y and And it's never true, but they don't care, they don't fact check it because the hype is worth something of them too. And in both cases, they decided I'm gonna get into politics and they make it impossible for the media to sustain the illusion anymore at a certain point. And so I think that they've both popped the balloon that that PR, basically free PR from the media had inflated for them for literally decades. This is the second time I'll say it. He has Kanye energy. So just like I said with Kanye

over a decade ago, that brother is no genius and he's got a giant crash ahead of him. And I'm saying it now for Elon Musk too. That brother is no genius and he's got a giant crash ahead of him. Yep, yep. Kanye and Elon arguably have a couple of other things in common. But anyway, why don't we take our second break of the hour and when we come back, one more interesting story involving Marco Rubio and free speech. On TYT, Jank, John and Jordan with you guys. Also some guy and Amir Mujakovich, I believe. Thank you for signing up guys, we appreciate it.

Disco stew, thank you for gifting five memberships. And all right, all right, I'm going to do one comment here real quick from Super Chat. Ryan Isbell wrote, and Wolfpack has been fighting to get money out of politics for 14 years. How's that going for them, Jank? Your own logic for Nancy Pelosi used against you. Oh, you're so clever, Ryan. So the guys that Wolfpack are like mechanics and electricians and nurses, et cetera, they're all beautiful. people not involved in politics otherwise.

They're trying to get money out of politics. How's it going? They've miraculously won in five states, including California, and including states like Illinois in the middle of the country. They did amazing, amazing work. And they did it for 99% of people there are volunteers. It's a couple of guys who get paid so terribly there. Nobody else has ever taken any money from Wolfpack.

They're barely surviving. The Democratic Party, the establishment Democrats, came in and just torpedoed Wolfpack. They called all the state legislators at the Democratic level and said, don't you dare be in favor of a convention? And they did overwhelming propaganda. And they even have liberal hosts like Tom Hartman doing dumbass propaganda against a convention that could get you an amendment and actually bring you a real change and take money out of politics. So what are you going to do? You're going to blame those poor guys because you'd like to score a point against me? Okay, fine, blame me. I didn't magically get money out of politics, even though we've been trying so effing hard for the last 14 years. Are you happy now? Okay, oh, okay, great. Oh, ha, ha, you failed at getting money out of politics. What the hell did you do? Tell me, who's this idiot? Ryan, Ryan, moron, what did you do? What did you do to get money out of politics? What did you do to improve the Democratic Party? What did you do to defeat Trump? What did you do productive? What did you build? What did you build? Did you build? Build anything?

No, unfortunately, we have a giant left wing spectrum, okay? There's a tiny percentage at the very, very, very, very end of it. And all they like to do, because they're radicals by nature, that's why they're at the end of the spectrum. They think maximum super extreme policies on everything, drive the American people to hate our entire side, and never build anything. Never be productive, instead burn everything down. Oh, there's someone on our side who doesn't agree with me 1%? Well, I'm the God. I set left wing policy.

So if he doesn't agree with me 1%, burn it down. What did you build? And my answer for the radical left is so far, in my history, having done this for 25, 30 years, the radical left has built nothing. They are destroyers. All they do is destroy. So I'm not interested in that. So if you're radical left and you want the most extreme policies that the American people absolutely hate,

and you want to tear down everyone else on the left, I'm going to fight you. I'm not going to say, oh, my God, I'm so scared. Oh, are you going to cancel me? Or are you going to, oh, you're going to say some bad things about me? You already do anyway, because you're a bunch of morons. So come at me, come on, let's go. And all reasonable people, all people who actually believe in 99% of Democratic voters, who actually want to get positive things done in this country,

who want paid family leave, who want Medicare for all, who want these things, higher wages, who cares about the American people and who doesn't want to play silly culture wars. I'm more pure, I'm more, more, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, okay? I'm not interested in your crap. Take your crap somewhere else. Don't worry, there's a million shows now. They'll feed you that crap every day, that crap sandwich. Oh, yeah, we're the purest.

Yeah, I yell Nazi louder. Oh, I'm sorry, I burned him down. I burned it. What did you burn down other than the Democratic Party? Other than the left, other than a single accomplishment, you've never fought for any of the bills. You've never fought for policy. This audience has fought for policies and for positive results. We fought for burning.

We fought for progressive pledge. We fought for the populace plank. We fought for $15 minimum wage. We fought for all of these things. And yes, at Wolfpack, I'm so proud of those guys. They fight with all that they have for it. Wolf dash pack.com. For God's sake, if you're going to try to burn someone's house down, go for it.

I know you pyromaniac loser radicals, that's all you have in your arsenal. But once, once, when you're at home, can you just ask yourself, look in the mirror and go, wait, have I ever built anything in my life? Instead of just yapping, have I actually tried to pass a bill? Have I, for one second thought, how do I help people? How do I pass a bill that affects people's lives? Do I get people elected? How do I get them elected?

What happens after they get elected? How do you hold them accountable? No, all you've ever done is, I am so pure since I have the most radical policies. Since I'm the least popular person in America, I'm the purest. Yes, but what's step two and what's step three? How do you actually help the average American? Oh, you haven't thought of that. Of course, you haven't.

Now watch, after this, of course, it'll go viral because like the guys, what do they call that thing at the bottom of a boat? whatever they are right after they get this and they'll do videos about it like oh my god we got more videos on young Turks well we're such losers that our whole lives are centered around the young Turks what pathetic pathetic losers oh I criticize young Turks for a living you must be so effing proud okay so they'll get this and then you know what they'll do in the next day all of a sudden the radical left the 13 losers online will go then and be like oh yeah Oh, no, no, we had a plan all along.

We had a plan all along. What was our plan? What was our plan to get people elected and pass bills and get Medicare? Oh, right. We yelled Nazi louder than you. Which voters did that went over? How did that help get to the right conclusion? Oh, conclusion.

What's your goddamn plan? And watch. They will all pretend to have a plan right now. You go back and watch their videos early. Did they ever have a plan for passing anything that helped your life? Zero, zero. And now they'll pretend they'll have a plan, but I can't wait for them to pretend. Because they're gonna come up with the most comical, dumbest plans in the whole world.

Well, if you're more pure and you signed for the most extreme policies, we will magically win. Okay, where's the goddamn magic? What is step two, what is step three? How do you actually help the American people? But you don't care about the American people. You don't care about the left. You don't care about anyone but your own stupid ego. Sorry, John, next story.

It's okay. I want now to transition to a light story for everyone's sake. But unfortunately, all I have is this one. So we're gonna do this one. But it does involve a plan. It's Marco Rubio's plan. I don't think you're gonna like it. But we're to transition to this because it is an important story.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio wants to go into the social media accounts of four nationals here on student visas and see if there's anything there that can justify revoking their visas and kicking them out of the country. And if you're thinking to yourself, well, how could that be any worse? Or it can be, they're gonna be using AI to do it. So you know you can take the results to the bank. So this effort includes AI-assisted reviews of tens of thousands of student visa holders social media accounts, marking a drastic escalation in the US government's policing of foreign nationals conduct and speech.

why wouldn't it work? AI-assisted reviews of government contracts have been working so well for doggy these last month or two. And so they're looking for evidence of alleged terrorist sympathies expressed after Hamas's October 7th attack on Israel, as one example. They say they're also checking news reports of anti-Israel demonstrations and Jewish students' lawsuits that highlights foreign nationals allegedly engaging in anti-Semitic activity without consequence. And on this, Marco Rubio specifically said, we see people marching at our universities and in the streets of our country, calling for intifada, celebrating what Hamas has done. Those people need to go. And already, the fact that Trump himself has said very similar things has led to, when you talk

to activists on campuses, they feel this chilling effect. They're terrified about participating in what Trump has labeled illegal protests. And sure, many of them are foreign nationals, whose position here is even more contingent, but plenty of American citizens are worried that they could be kicked out of their schools because if a threat goes to their school, that they're gonna cancel, for instance, federal government contracts or subsidies, as Trump did today with Columbia, then maybe Colombia would do Trump's dirty work for them. And they'll find US citizens who are students and went to the wrong sort of protest, said the wrong thing, chanted the wrong thing, maybe held up a sign with the wrong thing printed on it.

And then they can be ejected from their schools as well. And so all of this is terrible. And we already know, like you say we want to weed out people who are pro Hamas. And that sounds like a specific thing. That sounds maybe to a lot of reasonable Americans is a very reasonable position to hold. I mean, Hamas did absolutely reprehensible things on October 7th. But in your experience over the last year, year and a half, how broadly do they define being anti-Israel. For instance, if you want a ceasefire, if you're advocating for Palestinian civilians' lives, if you're calling for an end to the blockade, how many of those sorts of activities that have literally nothing to do with supporting a terrorist

organization have been classified as that, not only by Donald Trump, but by the broader media, by many Democrats as well. And so this has, look, it's anti- First Amendment. The involvement of AI makes it deeply inhuman, and it also has, I think, the very real potential of going quite broad in who this is going to target. Yeah, all right, I've got strong opinions on this. I'm shocked. Yeah, and so Trump, Fetterman, all the Israel bootlickers come for me, come for me, okay? So these guys serve Israel.

They do not serve America. This is because Donald Trump got $337 million from the Aedelson family. Federman and almost all the corrupt congresspeople in this country are completely an utterly bought by A-PAC and other Israeli interests. Everyone, this is not in dispute. A-PAC was the number one donor in this election cycle. Everyone in mainstream media lies on behalf of Israel, either explicitly or implicitly, by not mentioning this fact.

In fact, if you mention this fact, what will they call you? An anti-Semite. So facts are now anti-Semitic. Interesting, okay? So that's not anti-Semitic to say that's the top lobby. Is it anti-drug company to say the drug companies are the top? donors, which we've said a thousand times in all the other election cycles, no, they use anti-semitism as a prop for protecting a foreign government. So the whole idea is utterly, utterly

absurd. So we've given Israel $300 billion, and now they control, we've, guys, if Israel had given us $300 billion, then I can at least see the logic of it, right? But no, we've given them $300 billion. We arrest anyone who criticizes them. We come. Funding to our universities, if they dare to have anyone criticize the beloved and great Israel. Why? Obviously, because of the legalized bribes. If there's a person or a host or a reporter that's not telling you that, they're lying to you on purpose to protect the strongest thing in America, Israel. So these are overwhelming and obvious facts. Now a ton of the right wing agrees. And soon there will be a rebellion and there will be a rebellion against Trump. There will be a rebellion as Fetterman and all of the people who are say Israel first.

And that America's dirt, who cares? You shut up and your only job is to serve Israel. And if anyone dares raise their head in America, dares to criticize their boss, there will be severe consequences. And here it is. It's not like they're bluffing, they're gonna take away $400 million. So is it really because they're criticizing Israel? They say, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, we're worried about anti-Semitism. Wait, why aren't you worried about Islamophobia?

Are you, because, you know, both sides yell at each other nonstop. The Israelis, do you know that at Columbia, an Israeli supporter ran over the kids who were for peace with a car, got arrested for it? So wait, trying to murder Muslim students, Palestinian students. also Jewish students who are part of the peace protest, trying to murder them doesn't lead to congressional hearings, doesn't lead the money being taken away, doesn't lead to trying to protect Muslim students. Almost every Muslim student in every one of these protests in every college has been called a terrorist by Israeli supporters. I've been called a terrorist a thousand times by Israeli supporters. Just for daring to say, could you please stop murdering Palestinian

children? Anti-submit terrorists, they'll say, okay. All right, so where do we where do we to get people's funding pulled. Oh, right. We didn't bribe all of Congress. We didn't bribe Trump. We didn't bribe Biden. Yes, they're legalized bribes. Thanks to are the most corrupt Supreme Court that anywhere in the world. That just legalized bribery. Say buy politicians, buy them all you want. So now Israel is saying to Columbia, how dare you? Don't you know who's in charge? How dare you? Oh, but how about Islamophobia? Can we say to shut up. You're not allowed to talk about any other religion or country other than Israel. Okay, can we protect Christians?

Shut up. The only thing that matters is anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism. Guys, do I think anti-Semitism is a good? That's a terrible thing. I don't want anti-Semitism. And by the way, a lot of these guys that are pretending to be against anti-Semitism are attacking incredible Jewish students on those college campuses that are bravely fighting

for peace. I love those kids. No, I don't want anyone being anti-Semitic. I don't want anybody being anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, anti-America, et cetera. But you're allowed to criticize America all you want. You could burn the American flag. You could say the most vile things about America or Christianity or Islam or anything else. The only thing you're not allowed to criticize in this country is Israel.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is obviously lying to you. It's in the facts. Here it is. So, and by the way, we get attacked nonstop and we'll get attacked more for this. Because there's a system in place in America where everyone is in power is driven to protect that foreign government. And so it's an ex-look, when Biden and Kamala Harris pretended to care about Palestinians, it bothered me to no end.

Because they said, oh, we care so much about their lives. Sent 20 billion more to Israel. Slaughter them, slaughter them. I want to pay for that genocide. Oh, but I care about Palestinians. But then Trump comes in. Oh, I'm going to do peace. I'm going to kill everybody in Gaza, drive them into the desert.

Who cares? I'm going to get casinos in Gaza. And don't you criticize Israel? Make them Israel great again. What happened? You said you were America first. You said you were America first. And guess what?

Now even your own voters realize you're a total liar. You're a waiter for Netanyahu holding in his chair, like a little servant boy. Boy, dance for him, Trump. Next time Netanyahu comes to town. I mean, he's humiliated Biden, he's humiliated Trump, he's humiliated all Americans. When he came in, he gave a speech about how dare you let your students have free speech? You're to cancel anyone who criticizes Israel. And Congress, standing ovation, standing ovation, yes, our true leader Netanyahu.

They're all corrupt. They hate America. They don't give a goddamn about America. All they want to do is serve Israel because they got paid to serve Israel. That's what this is. Jordan. Yeah, across the board, they do not care about free speech. They don't care about free expression or free association. Everything that they do around Israel violates our core constitutional rights.

Whether like you're saying here, John, using AI to spy on students to find out, alleged or purported pro-Hamas sympathies to expel them, to deport them. Trump, the day of his joint address, the same joint address where he said, he brought free speech back, he posted on truth social, but anyone who engages in these illegal protests could be imprisoned, whether they're foreign students or American citizens attending some of these universities. It's targeted, It's based on the specific content of their speech, H.R. 94.95 last year, the Republicans in the House sought to give the IRS and Trump's IRS unilateral powers to revoke tax exempt status from non-profit groups that they deem are supporting terrorist organizations. During wartime, we have

seen a wild mischaracterization of what groups who oppose war, who they sympathize with, who they sympathize with, if you were against the war on terror, you were a terrorist supporter. So there's always a restriction on speech, and they appeal to the lowest common denominator in moments like this. They appeal to people's nationalism and patriotism. It is extremely stupid and infantile. But here, like, it kind of flies in the face of everything we should fight for and what this country stands for. Of course, Federman is cheering it on. But when I see, of course, his staff leaving, he's gone through multiple different communications directors. He's gone through multiple whole sets of staff over his short time in the Senate. While he's focused on Israel, I have to wonder

when he's cheering on Columbia losing 400 million in grants from the government, what do his resident. What do his constituents think about this is how much Columbia University gets in federal grants a kitchen table issue to Pennsylvania? So it's not just Jenk, like you're saying, service to APEC, the Israel lobby, and another country's government. They're also abandoning their own constituents. And I'm just wondering at what point do people wake up and realize these people don't care about us. They're serving another country. I'd say two last things here. Everyone in mainstream media is a giant liar about this issue because they all in unison

tell you that Israel, it does not control America. What do you, what do you mean? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. These politicians genuinely love Israel because Israel's are a special ally. And they're so moved by that. And we don't see any anti-Muslim behavior. We don't see any anti-anything else. All we see is poor, poor anti-Semitism.

That's all I see. That's all we care about. And if you point out that Israeli lobbies or lobbies supporting Israel have bought all of our politicians, which is a stone cold fact, we'll ruin your life. We'll assassinate your character and we'll call you an anti-Semite, a racist, a bigot. And we'll make sure that Israel, we help Israel destroy good Americans who don't want to serve a foreign government. We'll destroy you on the right, we'll destroy you on the left. Because the job of mainstream media is to enforce the status quo.

And so they will tell you, don't believe your lying eyes. So did they take $300 billion or didn't they did? Have they asked us to fight every one of their wars and to provide funding for them, to provide funding for this genocide? Okay, here's another thing. Mainstream media says those no good Palestinians, dirty, savage, terrorist, terrorists, they say all the time. Anyone who's opposed to Israel, terrorists.

terrorist, every Middle Eastern country is a terrorist, every Muslim in the world is a terrorist, terrorist. I'm so sick of how racist they are against Muslims. Everyone on cable news, they loathe Muslims, they smear us for a living. Where's our congressional hearings? You oppose Israel, terrorists. Okay, well, okay, now let's do facts. Hamas did it something terrible on October 7th.

Over 1,200 people killed, over 800 civilians killed, 36 children killed, six children killed. Okay, now on the other side, 62,000 killed at a bare minimum. Israel cut off all humanitarian aid now. They're starving the Palestinians. They're back to starving the Palestinians, the death. They've killed 14,500 children, but Muslim and Christian children, Palestinian children, so they probably don't count. I'm asking the press, cable news. Writers in the New York Times on Washington Post, do 14,500 Palestinian children, count as much as 36 Israeli children or way, way, way, way less as you were saying. Because if you thought that they count the same, you would say, oh my God, look at how many

more children Israel has killed than Hamas. Israel is 60 times the terrorists that Hamas are. If you say, no, I write for the New York Times and Washington Post and I work at CNN, but I think Israel accidentally drop bombs that destroyed 90% of the buildings in Gaza. They didn't mean to go go golly. Gee, they're the innocent moral army. They didn't mean to kill 800 babies. They didn't mean to kill 15,000 children and another 10 to 15,000 women. It was all an accident, it doesn't count, it's an accident. Oh no, no, no, it's the Palestinians fault.

They use human shields and all sorts of propaganda. So if Hamas is terrorists, and I agree that they are, then Israel is also terrorists. In fact, they're way worse terrorists. If Hamas would love to have the bombs that Israel has so they could drop it on people's heads and burn them all to death. And that's why I hate Hamas. But when Israel drops bombs and burns children and grandmothers to death, our press says

the Palestinians are terrorists, Israel has the most moral army. No, this Israeli state today, not all But the Israeli government today is definitely a terrorist state, if the word terrorism has any meaning at all. But literally everyone in mainstream media will lie to you and say, no, terrorists is only when Muslims do it. But when Israel does the same exact thing or worse, they have a program called, Where's Daddy?

Also by AI, they pick who they're gonna murder through AI, and then they, but they don't kill them right away. They wait till they go home. That's why it's called where's dad. And when the person picked by AI goes home, they drop a bomb on him to make sure they murder his whole family with him. What part of that is an accident? What part of that is collateral damage? No, the government of Israel is 100% a terrorist state at this point. But for saying things that are obviously true, I will get in trouble and the people lying to you will be promoted and celebrated. So go ahead, Go ahead, Trump, go ahead Biden. Lick all the boots you want, but now mainstream media is not the only source of information.

And the truth is out. The reality is Washington is occupied territory. They own Washington. And guys, super lasting. Do not make the mistake of doing the same thing they're doing and make it about religion and about hatred, okay? It has nothing to do with Jews or Jewish Americans. Do not attack people based on their religion at all. religion at all. That is so counterproductive, it is immoral, it is the wrong direction.

Some of the best fighters we have for protecting American interests and being fair and protecting Palestinians are Jewish Americans. Bernie Sanders, Jamie Raskin, Dave Smith, and the list goes on and on and on and those wonderful Jewish students on all those college campuses that are fighting for peace. Well, our issue is not at all with Jewish Americans. The people who say that are giant liars. They know, they, I don't know if they believe it or not. Some of and maybe are so crazed in their minds that they believe it. But largely, they're lying to you, pretending that we hate Jews in order to protect their beloved government, the foreign government of Israel. And it's not anti-Semitic to say that the Israeli government is doing

something wrong. In this insane, absurd situation, it'd be like if you criticize the Turkish government and I said, you're anti-Turkish, that's it. I want you canceled forever and ever, and yours shouldn't have any speech rights, and I want your $400 million. And I'm going to I want you arrested and I want you deported because you're anti-Turkish. When you take any other country but Israel and you plug it into that equation, it sounds insane. It sounds like what a lunatic who just escaped a mental asylum would say. No, of course the Turkish government doesn't mean that you hate Turks criticizing them. Turkish government does things are wrong all the time.

So does the Norwegian government. So does the Russian government. So does every government. But the only one we're not allowed to criticize is Israel. And there's only one reason why they bought all of our politicians, almost all of them. And yes, they bought them just like the other lobbies do. The oil lobbies, the bank lobbies, the drug lobbies. But they did buy them.

And they didn't buy them on behalf of Jews or Jewish Americans. They bought them on behalf of a foreign government that is totally occupying ours now and just taking all of our money and oppressing our people and saying, you are not to apply your constitution. I don't care about your first amendment. Your first amendment is meaningless to me, is trash to me. Instead, you will bow your heads to Israel. And I'm sick of it. I'm not going to bow my head anymore. And none of you should bow your head to the terrorist state of Israel. I hope that they get elections. They elect a new government that actually believes in democracy and morals and that we have a two-state solution and they live in peace and happiness forever.

But these terrorists, I don't want them getting a single more dollar of American taxpayers and bossing us around and telling us what to do. You're not America. You're a different country. So go take care of yourself. Why do we have to constantly treat you? You're one of the top economies in the world. You have universal health care? We don't.

We have paid family leave. We don't. Why do we have to keep giving you money? No, no. Anyone who gives Israel money is a sucker who doesn't mind serving the terrorist. is Benjamin Netanyahu, young Turks.