The Young Turks - Musk VS. Trump - June 3, 2025

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You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome, thank you. All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Shanku, Granite, Krasparian with you guys today. So we got a lot of stories for you, including significant drama. I love drama. Elon Musk versus Donald Trump. What the bad Jesus.

Hot goss. Okay, fun for everybody. And wait, I was given to understand that people inside the Trump camp would never disagree with one another. Huh, that is so weird. I wonder who was right and who was ridiculously wrong. Look at Jake coming in hot, trying to provoke folks. Yeah, no, no, I don't mind provoking them. Hey, dumbasses, who thought that no one on the side of Trump would ever disagree with them?

What happened? Okay, okay. Okay, you were a billion percent wrong, I was right, I was right, hashtag suck it. Okay, so we're, okay, so anyways, we'll get into that fight, and then of course, the budget's a disaster, as usual, Gaza is a disaster, we've got a lot of show for you guys today, but at the end, for the members, we're doing Operation Joy today, right? Are we? Okay, finally. I need it, I need it. And that's what I was going to tell you guys, members get ready, because for the first time, I want you guys to cheer me up, okay? Yeah, because, look, I mean, there's a lot of things going on, and I'm in an interesting mood, as you can tell. And today, for some reason, the camel's back, if you will. Wait, what is going on? Broke with me. Oh, okay. A straw broke the camel's back. Yeah. Okay, what was the straw? No, I don't know what the straw was, but I'm tired of being called an anti-Semite.

I'm super, supernova tired of it from bad faith people who don't mind tons and tons of Muslims being killed, murdered, et cetera. No, I'm not the bad guy, sorry, and I have to always like, okay, but like, I'm sorry, but you're a super bad guy if you think all those dead Palestinians are no big. deal. You're a super bad guy. So but I know we're not allowed to say it. We're not allowed to say it, but we're going to say it many times in this show. So let's get started. Well, we're actually going to start with an entirely different topic. But we do have a lot today on what's happening in Gaza. Before we get to that, though, I wanted to get into this. Let me say this. It's,

it's very disappointing. Okay, I've come to consider Elon a good friend. He's obviously a very intelligent person and he's done a lot of great work with all due respect my friend Elon is terribly wrong about the one big beautiful bill. Spoiler alert, not only is Elon Musk not wrong about the so-called Big Beautiful Bill. He and Mike Johnson doesn't seem like they're really friends. So let me get into the latest updates on this, you know, quarrel that's playing out between Elon Musk and the Republican caucus in attempting to pass this bill, which would, of course, add to our debt and deficit. Now, how- But Anna, I gotta say, I gotta interrupt for a second, because this, let's be honest,

it's not just about the Republican caucus, Elon Musk is definitely taking a shot at Trump. Trump says this is his most important bill, and it's true it is, because this is where he's gonna get paid and all of his donors are gonna get paid and all the rich are gonna get paid. So to him, this is the most critical bill. So Elon trying to torpedo it is a massive piece of drama between the two principal players. The reason Elon is saying Congress and congressional Republicans instead of Trump is he's trying to tone down the drama by like two inches, two percent, right? But we know, we know, yeah, they're definitely now in loggerheads. No, no, shots are being fired.

So let's start with House Speaker Mike Johnson, who's now fighting this all-out war with Elon Musk. And that's because the former head of Doge has been taking some pretty massive shots at Trump's big beautiful bill. Now, let's rewind for just one second to kind of explain how we got to this point. So during a recent interview with CBS, Elon Musk stated that he was disappointed with Trump's big beautiful bill. Here's what he had to say about it. You know, I was like disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decrease it. And I reminds the work that the Doge team is doing. I actually thought that when this big, beautiful bill came along.

I mean, like, everything he's done on Doge gets wiped out in the first year. I think a bill can be big or it can be beautiful. But I don't know if it could be both. My personal opinion. So after Elon Musk said that, Mike Johnson went to a laundromat, watched all of the machine spin so he can engage in the spin cycle. Totally tried to spin this entire situation, writing on X. The House made sure to build on Doge's success within the one big beautiful bill.

Stephen Miller has made an important point, no he hasn't, about the two efforts. Doge found savings in discretionary spending such as funding agencies, while our one big beautiful bill secured over $1.6 trillion in savings in mandatory spending, such as Medicaid. So there you have Mike Johnson clearly admitting that Republicans secured some pretty deep cuts to programs like Medicaid in order to give even more handouts and tax breaks that disproportionately benefit the richest among us. And yet, by the way, the big beautiful bill would do exactly what Elon Musk is warning about. It would blow up the deficit, even worse than we already have it. So the committee for a responsible federal budget estimates that the bill would add three trillion dollars to the debt, including interest over the next decade. The Congressional Budget Office had similar figures.

Every analysis of the big, beautiful bill shows that it will add to the federal debt, which currently sits at $36 trillion and cost us a trillion dollars just last year in order to service. So this is an issue. Now, that didn't stop Mike Johnson, by the way, from going on NBC's Meet the Press over the weekend to just brazenly lie to the American people about what the bill actually does. Take a look. Remember in the first Trump administration, the 2017 tax cuts and jobs act, the CBO was often its estimates of that one by $1.5 trillion, okay, because they underestimated the incredible growth that would be brought about. This is going to be jet fuel. The reason we call it the big beautiful bill is because it is because it is. is a tremendous pro-growth package entwined in this legislation that is going to make everybody's incomes go up. There's going to be more job opportunity. It is worth noting that some budget experts say that in 2017, actually the CBO was pretty

right when you adjusted for inflation. But let me read you something that you said back in 2021 about the CBO. This was in relation to a Democratic bill. You said the CBO has confirmed this bill adds nearly $400 billion to the deficit. contrary to the White House's claim that the bill is paid for. So do you only believe the CBO when a Democrat is president, Mr. Speaker? No, this is very easy to explain. The CBO sometimes gets projections correct, but they're always off every single time when they project economic growth. They always underestimate the growth that will be brought about by tax cuts and reduction in regulations.

Let's talk about economic growth briefly, because there's a little trick that Republicans, like how Speaker Mike Johnson play. Economic growth for whom? Because an increase in the gross domestic product, the GDP, doesn't necessarily mean that that economic growth is benefiting American workers. The same bill, the Big Beautiful bill, has a provision included that prevents states from regulating artificial intelligence. And we already know artificial intelligence. is going to be a disruptor in the job market. Many people are very likely going to lose their jobs as a result of AI replacing them. States aren't going to have the ability to do anything to mitigate that damage because

this bill includes a provision preventing them from doing so. So while he talks about, oh, this is going to create so many new jobs. Is it though? And these new jobs could be employed through AI technology. Yeah, so let's start to break it up. First of all, I hate that it's called a big beautiful bill. That's so dumb. It's almost like defund the police.

It's like nails on a chalkboard for me. Why is it beautiful? Oh, because it cuts taxes on the rich? Wow, it's so beautiful. Well, Elon Musk agrees with you, Jank. And he wrote just today, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. The massive outrageous pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.

Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong, you know it, and even went as far as to call for every Republican who votes for the bill to be primaried, saying in November next year, we fire all politicians who betrayed the American people. And I'm gonna give you Johnson's response to all of this in just a minute, but Jenk, why don't you weigh in? So there's once, there's two very positive things happening here. Number one, they're recognizing that it adds money to the debt. Oh, Thank God. So Republicans have been lying my whole life about, oh, no, when we seem to create $4 trillion, $2 trillion, $5 trillion in extra deficits and debts, it doesn't really count.

Later, there will be a lapper curve. Well, all the rich will laugh at you and pretend that more money came in later. Ha ha ha. And now there's a bunch of Republicans, Randolph, Eli, Musk, et cetera, going, no, it's actually going to add $4 to $5 trillion to the debt. debt. So now there's a huge caveat to that in their point of view, right? But at least they're acknowledging that. And that is breaking the gaslighting. And it's super important because then it's one thing when the left says, hey, this adds $4 trillion to the dead. You know, a lot of no MAGA believes that if the left says it. And some independents believe in some independents don't. But even when other Republicans and other folks on that team like Elon Musk said, then

And almost all the independents go, oh, okay, I guess so it is true. They are adding at a minimum 3.8 trillion to the debt. So that's huge. Number two, good thing is they're fighting and that's not like a fake fight like they've had in the past with like, oh, golly gee, the Tea Party would like you to be more conservative. Oh no, Republicans don't want more tax because for the rich, well golly gee, we agreed on more, no, it's not one of those, okay, they're actually fighting. And so that's positive because at least one side is

showing some of the ugly parts of this agenda, right? So now, okay, where's the giant caveat? They still don't get them wrong, they'll get it to any of this twisted. All of the Republican leaders still are in la la land where they think they're going to find $4 trillion in spending cuts. Like they don't, none of them have talked about

not doing the giant tax cuts for the rich, except Ron Johnson miraculously, right? And we covered that on an earlier show. But outside of that, they're like, oh, yeah, man, we're going to find Spetticoe. No, Jake, you're being way, way, way, way too generous. No, they don't actually believe they're going to find $4 trillion in savings. They don't believe it. They never believed it.

They never intended to balance the budget. Balancing the budget has never been a priority for either party. I'm just going to be honest with you about that. And yes, that includes Republicans who tend to pretend that they care about the deficit and the federal debt the most. I think that there are voters who are concerned about the deficit, who are worried about the $36 trillion debt, especially considering the fact that we're now spending a trillion dollars a year to service it.

That is a problem, but hold on, they just want their tax cuts, they want to do a favor for their donors, this is what their donors want, and let's not forget, a lot of these members of Congress are very wealthy themselves, they want a little bit of a tax break as I don't believe for a second that they actually think they're gonna find $4 trillion in savings. is actually old school uniparty establishment politics in this case. In this case, yes. Right, in this case, they're like, hey, you know what, is she, they're doing exactly what Anna said.

Oh, it's magic. We'll do fortunately in tax cuts, mainly going to the wealthy, we won't cut any spending. We'll add spending to the Pentagon and to other places where you wanted to cut. And we'll just cut from the poor, Medicaid, and, you know, and that won't be anywhere near enough because we're going to gorge on tax cuts. So that is classic Republican unit party establishment strategy. Now you go over to team Elon with Rand Paul and the others, right? That team is now saying, okay, everyone else is right.

The CBO is right. Yes, it does add $4 trillion to the deficit, okay? So that's a huge admission that the Republicans never do, right? But Anna, they're still, that's the team that's pretending there's $4 trillion in spending cuts. And let's not forget. And because none of them, literally none of them say, other than Ron Johnson once said it, and I bet he takes it back, are saying, maybe we shouldn't do gigantic tax cuts for the rich. Correct. Okay, then I agree with your analysis 100%.

Because I don't want anyone to make the mistake of thinking Elon's the good guy here because while Elon is correct in noting that this adds to our federal debt, he is correct about that. His priority is not to balance the budget by doing away with the unfairness of the tax policy that's included, which again leads to less revenue for the federal government because of the major tax breaks that again disproportionately benefit the rich. Now I want to be fair and also note, you know, Trump is trying to make good on his promise of no tax on tips. And based on reporting, the provision related to that, would basically allow those in the service industry to earn up to $25,000 in tips that will not

be taxed, which is pretty huge. $25,000 is huge. There's a chance that- They might take that out though, let's keep up real. No, no, no, that's exactly what I'm getting to. There's a chance that team Elon is worse than Team Trump. So right now they look better because they're at least acknowledging, yes, we are adding $4 trillion to their The debt, right? And so that's a huge moment.

But probably what they'll do in the Senate, what are they going to take out? Something for the rich, no chance. There's no chance. Those are the donors. Zero percent. Elon, Rand Paul, all those, every one of those guys work for the donors or are the donors and are stupid rich. And they're like, no way, the most important thing is tax cuts for billionaires.

Right. Number one priority, always for every single Republican of my lifetime, period, okay? So they're never going to change that. So what they'll likely do is go, well, it is too. much in spending and cut, so we're gonna have to take out the tax cut on tips and overtime. I would not be surprised. I honestly wouldn't be. So let's keep a close eye on that because that'll show you what the real priorities are, not just for Elon Musk, for the Republican party as well. Now, in response to these criticisms coming from Elon Musk, Mike Johnson was

actually responding to Musk's comments in the video that we showed you at the very top of this segment, but here's where things get interesting because Johnson also accused Musk of acting out of self-interest. Wow, shocking. Not like Mike Johnson, by the way, is acting out of self-interest or anyone else in Congress is acting out of self-interest. I want to go to the video and then get your response. Take a look. I've said this many times. I'll be saying it until we get this thing over the line. This is the most amount of money that any government has ever saved on planet Earth than a piece of legislation. Ever.

It's a very important first start. Elon is missing it, okay? And it's not personal. I know that the EB mandate is very important to him. That is going away because the government should not be subsidizing these things. It's part of the Green New Deal. And I know that has an effect on his business and I limit that. We talked about the ramp down period on that and how that should be duly considered by Congress.

But for him to come out and hand the whole bill is to me just very disappointing, very surprising. Very surprising in light of the conversation I had with him yesterday. Do you think that it's Tesla's what's driving this as I was suggesting? I'm gonna let others draw other conclusions about that, but this is not personal between any of us. I just, I just deeply regret that he's made this mistake. Look at this little gangster over here, right? Like, hey Elon, we know those federal tax subsidies for EVs mean a lot to you. Be a real shame if something happened to that provision, right?

decision, right? And guess what? He said EV mandate. What he was referring to were the tax subsidies for those who buy EVs. And apparently, it was something that started in the Obama administration. The federal government had offered Americans $7,500 in tax credits on electric vehicles. And that tax credit was originally going to expire in 2032. But the big beautiful bill includes a provision that changes the expiration date of that provision to the end of this year. So that is a huge blow to Tesla and electric vehicles. So now let's break it down. Look, this is why it's important that you watch an honest show. So we can tell you who's lying and who's telling the truth about different things, okay? By the way, Democrats

included, of course, as you all know. In this case, though, this is why the fight is good, because now Elon Mess and Rand Paul says something true about Team Trump, which is they're going to add at least $4 trillion, maybe $5 trillion to the debt. Right? Now Ron Johnson is saying something true about Elon Musk. He's saying, well, he is a donor. And apparently he, you know, he's, that's between the lines, right? But we took away his tax credit. So now he's mad. And they added a fee to EVs. Yeah. Yeah. So that is true. That is. So Speaker Johnson is correct about that. They did do that. That is a provision in the bill. And I'm positive that Elon Musk is furious about it. Right. So when you. you see Elon Musk going off on the bill, is it partly out of self-interest, as Mike Johnson's saying there? Absolutely. Definitely. Absolutely, he wanted more goodies, more breaks, which by the way, would have added even more to the deficit, right? So, and that makes sense, that's what donors always want. They always want to rob the taxpayer for their own benefit. That is 90% of the

reason why donors, especially corporate donors, give money to politicians, period, right? So you see how good the fight is, because it's revealing not to us, we already know. No, but to the right wing base, hey, maybe Elon's acting out of self-interest. Hey, maybe this is gonna add four trillion to the debt. Now let's go to what is the correct answer, what the American people want but have no chance of receiving. So when I talk to MAGA about this, when I get to, hey, what do we give an extra tax cuts to the rich for? They hate it, they don't agree with me, right? They're like, no, we need tax cuts and the rich need to get it the most, okay?

later, I swear they told me they're gonna give me a job. And it's gonna pay really well like 10 or 20 years from now. And then they promised the trickle on me and I am waiting for that trickle, right? By the way, you guys know that you could actually just give it to the middle class instead. I know that's never occurred, that thought has never occurred to a Republican politician or to anyone in right wing media. And that is why right wing voters don't know. You could actually do economics called middle out, which where you give things to the middle class. And they spend money and create a virtuous cycle in the economy, which is much, much more likely.

Instead, we're going with the dumbass plan of giving everything to the top and go, well, yeah, they'll hoard most of it. Isn't that good? Isn't it good when rich people hoard the money and don't use it to stimulate the economy like working class people would? Of course it's not good. But every liar in media pretends that that's a real idea. Every liar in politics pretends that's a real idea. No, trickle down economics, supply side economics is a joke. It's literally never worked in my lifetime. It's just a shady excuse to give more money to the rich because they're the ones who donated to the politicians. Now, so MAGA is totally unconvinced about the point that I just made, hardcore MAGA. But they make the same mistake that like Biden and Kamala Harris supporters made, which is,

oh my God, Queen Latifah endorsed Kamala Harris, so we're gonna win. Because I really like Queen Latifah and I really like Kamala Harris. Oh, I think Joe Biden's young, so everybody thinks Joe Biden is young. And in this case, they think, well, I want tax cuts for the rich. So I'm sure the country wants tax cuts for the rich. No, they don't, including Republican voters. 76% of Americans say raise taxes on the rich. Raise taxes.

Don't cut them. Bring them up, not down. Three quarters of Americans believe that. But do you ever see that in American media? I don't. Never, never why everyone in TV is spectacularly wealthy and that's the very last thing they're gonna tell you is that American people want to raise our taxes they're not gonna ever say that and so are they actually cutting the taxes for

the rich guys I'll give you one stuff we've given you many before but I'll give you one today people making above five hundred thousand dollars are going to get a one point seven trillion dollar tax cut why Why? Why do people making above half a million dollars a year need an extra 1.7 trillion? Is the middle class is okay? They're poor or okay in America? Everybody else is totally fine, but we have to go out of our way to give another couple of trillion dollars to the very, very, very top. Why? And of course the answer is because almost everyone in Congress got bribed. And finally, the last part of this is at the very end of this drive,

is when the Democrats appear. Okay? And at the end, they come into Congress all singing together, arms locked together going, there was nothing we could do. There was nothing we could do. Well, I mean, in this case, there really isn't much they can do. You know, they don't hold a majority in either chamber. Yes, I agree that even if they did hold majorities in either chamber,

that's when they would claim there's nothing we can do when there clearly is. So no, but I hear you, I hear you, and they really don't have the votes. Okay, I love beating up on Democrats, but in this case, I think it's a little unfair. No, it's not unfair. It's not unfair. It's not unfair. Well, the Democrats who showed up voted against the bill. If they needed the votes, I guarantee you they would have found corporate Democrats to get those votes.

I guarantee, because why? I've seen this movie a hundred times. I've been covering politics for quarter of century. Every single time the Republicans go, no, it won't add to the deficit, as we're now at $37 trillion in the deficit. And every single time Democrats go, oh, we are going to vote against it. It is terrible. Oh, look at that. a couple of people flipped over or they didn't need it.

And there was nothing we could do, there was nothing we could do. And so Anna, what can they do? Just real quick, you could fight them rhetorically. There should be an army of Democrats on the air now going, what are you given $1.7 trillion to the rich for? No, Hakeem Jeffries is on it, okay? He told him already, like you're gonna find out. That's gonna find out.

That's hilarious. But you see what I'm saying, whether it's that stat or any other stat or fact. Right now, it should be in every American's heads, 1.7 trillion, 1.7 trillion to the rich, 1.7 trillion to the rich. So whenever they think of the so-called big, beautiful bill, they think, oh, that's 1.7 trillion to the rich, right? How many Democrats are making that point? Well, no, I was going to say zero, no, but Bernie makes that point. AOC these days makes that point. So a couple of them, a couple of progressive populists do, right?

But the rest of them are like, I can't wait for my donors to get those tax cuts. I mean, Trump bad. Yep. Well, we'll keep an eye on the story. For now, we've got to take a quick break. And when we come back, we'll get into Chuck Schumer trying to go Trump into a war with Iran because he's a terrible person. All right, back on TOT, Jenk, Anna, and Kathleen Sepeda. Kathleen, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. Anna. Ah, Chuck Schumer. He's at it again. When it comes to negotiating with the terrorist government of Iran, Trump's all over the lot.

One day he sounds tough, the next day he's backing off. And now, all of a sudden, we find out that Whitkoff and Rubio are negotiating a secret side deal with Iran. What kind of bull is this? They're gonna sound tough in public and then have a side deal that lets Iran get away with everything? That's outrageous. We need to make that side deal public. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer thinks it's actually a great idea to go the Trump administration into war with Iran instead of signing a new nuclear deal to prevent a military conflict. I don't really understand what's left to support within the Democratic Party.

Why are you trying to encourage Trump or discourage Trump from signing a nuclear deal? Now look, Schumer was responding to reporting from Axios indicating that the Trump administration is in fact considering allowing Iran to enrich small quantities of uranium or more importantly, a new nuclear deal that would bring small amounts of enriched uranium into Iran for their energy needs. And that would prevent them from building a nuclear weapon, but would obviously help them with their energy needs. Now, that deal would be similar to the Iran nuclear deal that former President Barack Obama managed to accomplish back in 2015 in his second term. That deal, as we all know, was ripped up by President Donald Trump in his first term. Since then, Iran has upped its uranium enrichment to around 60% according to the International Atomic Energy Agency. Uranium that is enriched to 90% is considered to be weapons grade. So obviously time is of the essence.

It's important to enter a deal to prevent the construction of these disastrous weapons. And wow, isn't that shocking that as soon as you rip up the Iran nuclear deal, Iran starts moving toward building a nuclear weapon. Now, you think that Schumer would want to pursue diplomatic means by reentering a new nuclear reentering a new nuclear deal to prevent a possible war with Iran. In fact, that was something that Biden had even campaigned on back in 2020. Take a look. I understand what's at stake and understand the consequence is failing to act.

That's why as president, I'd renew our commitment to arms control for a new era. The historic Iran nuclear deal we negotiated blocked Iran from gaining nuclear weapons with inspectors on the ground international inspectors confirming that the agreement was being kept. Yet Trump cast it aside, prompting Iran to restart its nuclear program become more provocative and raising the risk of another disastrous war in the region. If Tehran returns to compliance with the deal, I would rejoin the agreement and work with our allies to strengthen and extend it while more effectively pushing back against. to ranch the stabilizing activities, which under the agreement we were allowed to do, and we had partners to do with us.

So Biden lied, that's what he said on the campaign trail. Once he became president, he did no such thing. And it probably had to do with the fact that Israel pressured him to avoid reentering a nuclear deal. Israeli officials have also made clear that they intend to raise concerns about restoring the JCPOA. That was the original Iran nuclear deal. Israeli news outlets reported that Yoshi Cohen, chief of Mossad, will travel to Washington and press Biden to make changes to the JCPOA. Well, changes didn't even need to be made because we didn't reenter a new nuclear deal with Iran. And now things have devolved so severely

that the Democratic Party is now trying to, I guess, discourage Trump from pursuing diplomatic means. Take a look. Yesterday, I called out President Trump, for on the one hand, telling the public his goal is to fully dismantle Iran's nuclear facilities. But then, on the other hand, secretly negotiating a side deal that will allow the Iranian regime to keep enriching. Well, it looks like we got his attention because he followed up by denying this report in an all-caps sweet storm. The old saying is, trust but verify. In this case, Congress must must. The administration must clarify what they might be hiding from the American people in this secret side deal. Steve Whitkoff and those negotiating this deal should testify before Congress and answer a simple question.

Is there a secret side deal that will allow the Iranian regime to continue enriching uranium and that empowers the regime's nefarious activity or not? In other words, Schumer is literally taking credit for Trump's aboutface, his statement just yesterday on truth social after backlash from neocons, which of course want to go to war with Iran. He wrote, the auto pen should have stopped Iran a long time ago from enriching under our potential agreement. We will not allow any enrichment of uranium. That's the neocon position. That's the neocon position. But Schumer is taking credit for pushing Trump in this getting closer to war with Iran direction. Well, that's because he does deserve credit, but in an ironic way, which we'll get to in a second.

So first, we're doing a poll in the live chat here, because we've got a diverse audience. I'm curious if anyone is going to vote in the opposite direction here, should the administration sign a nuclear deal with Iran? 10% say no, interesting, but 90% say the logical thing. Of course, of course we should, right? Why are we going to war with Iran? For the 10% who say no, I hope you're enlisted and I hope you enjoy. Yeah, okay? No, but they're more likely to be Israelis who want us to enlist.

I hope you're enlisted and I hope you enjoy. Yeah. Okay, Americans shouldn't be fighting a war on behalf of Israel. Okay, so I'm gonna get to that as well. So why don't we say from time to time the Democrats are liars? I don't mean the voters, I mean the politicians, the leaders. Because they're liars. So what Trump is considering doing before that true social post that Anna read you, Axios had

the story we were reporting in the middle of the show yesterday that he was seeing of doing this deal with Iran. That's why Schumer and the neocons are flipping out, right? So that deal is very similar to the Obama deal, the deal that Joe Biden said he was gonna get back into, but he was a liar and he didn't get back in that deal and there's no excuse for it. He barely even tried. You see Trump trying here with all of its problems and he goes back to the neocomposition, but at least you see him trying. Biden didn't try at all, why. It's amazing, they just say it. I mean, you saw it in a news story there. The head of Mossad,

the secret intelligence group like the CIA of Israel, first of well, isn't that outrageous? It is outrageous, like imagine if like, oh, hey, France is going to make a deal, but the head of the CIA goes and talks to their leader, and then all of a sudden they changed their position. You'd be like, what did the CIA say to Macron? That seems kind of like, whoa, we must have some stuff on Macron there to get him to change his position entirely. But here, since Israel controls everything and no one is allowed to question them without getting smeared in America, they could just say it in public. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, our head of Mossad went and told Joe Biden, who's in charge? Not him, Mossad is in charge. And no, you're not going to go back into that Obama deal, even though you said you were going to.

Shut up and do as Israel tells you, okay? So you're seeing it with your own eyes. Then Chuck Schumer, aren't you thrilled that he's going to go back into a deal that is similar to Obama's? That's what you all wanted. You said you wanted it, right? Now, all of a sudden, Chuck Schumer, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. this is a terrible deal with Iran, the terrorists, we must fight that war on behalf of Israel. I didn't mean on behalf of Israel, on behalf of America, for what?

Which Americans want it? What are we going to get out of a war with Iran? Other than trillions of dollars we're going to spend like we did in Iraq and tens of thousands Americans dead for what, for what? So because Israel decides that Iran is their number one enemy and they're going to make are intensely corrupt, Democratic and Republican politicians do exactly as they're told. So that's why when Schumer says we got him to Trump to change and go back into not doing the deal with Iran, he doesn't mean we as in Democrats, Trump couldn't give it rats ass what

Democrats think. He means we as in the Israeli lobby. And the Israeli lobby showed we're in charge. And there's another layer to the Santa too. They keep talking about how it's a secret side deal. First of all, every peace negotiation is secret until you have a deal. So what does it mean that it's secret? They're saying it's secret from Israel. Not from the public. They're saying, this is a side deal. Wait, why is it a side deal? It's us and Iran, the two major powers here in this particular case, right? They're saying no, how dare you keep it a secret from Israel. And how dare you not involve Israel in this deal? Israel decides what deal America makes. And that's what Democrats like Schumer and Biden say. That's now Trump has switched

this position. And he's back to yes, sir, Netanyahu, sir. Yeah, of course, sir. Did the head of Mossad come? Did the head of Mossad come? No one in America wants this war. The only entity that wants this war is Israel. So if we go to war, I'm telling you ahead of time, ahead of time. Israel pushed America into this war. That is 100% what they want, and now we're gonna see how much they control our politicians. We're gonna see, look, I already know the extent to which the Israeli government has influence over our government. The question is, do they have the same stranglehold on Donald Trump, who's got more ego than other politicians?

Yes. that his pride wouldn't allow him to be publicly dog walked and humiliated the way that Biden was. But so far, he has been, with one exception, which was making a deal with Hamas to release that one American hostage and doing so without the inclusion of Israel. No, there was the Houthi. Oh, and the Houthi, yes, correct. And three, and Israel already commanded him to attack Iran. That's right.

And he didn't yet. Trump, this is where, in my opinion, I'm seeing some positive development. developments, right? Don't get dog walked and force American soldiers to engage in a war on behalf of Israel. We'll wait and see what happens. But I actually think it is a good thing that they're, based on some reporting, pursuing diplomatic means to prevent a war with Iran. So final thing I'll say about this, look, I've already given up on Democrats like Chuck Schumer, which is why he doesn't trigger me. I already know he's trash, okay? But the one contribution I'll make in terms of, of commentary on this is there are a lot of rumors about AOC potentially running for president, which I personally think is insane. I think it's premature, I don't think she should do that.

Please, for the love of God, primary Chuck Schumer in the Senate. She's not fantastic on foreign policy, but she's better than this. Way better. And I'll close. I'll take AOC over Chuck Schumer any day on issues like this and many other issues. Schumer is just worse for the donors. And it's not just Israel, it's pharma, oil, anyone can buy Chuck Schumer. But to be fair to Chuck Schumer, anyone can buy 90% of our politicians. All right, my last two points are, look, guys, remember this, the reason why I'm so adamant about this is because there's no downside to this deal. You end their military nuclear program so they can't have nukes and we don't go to war. Where's the downside? There's no downside, right?

The only downside is Israel wants us to attack for them. So they don't have to risk their soldiers and they don't have to use their money. So they want to make us do it. So but America has zero upside and finally Maga, let me ask you this. So you see us criticizing Democrats like Schumer and Biden very, you know, harshly because we're honest. Are you gonna do likewise for Trump? Or are you gonna be a good little boy? And if Trump becomes, goes with a neo composition because he got more campaign.

cheques and more deals and got seduced by some insane ludicrous Trump Riviera idea. Because God, that is so stupid. Are you gonna go back, oh yes, we would love war, we love war, woohoo, yay, let's go bomb Iran for Israel. Because daddy Trump told us, I don't know, the jury's out. You're gonna make that decision, and I'm very curious to see how that turns out. But so far Trump hasn't made the final decision, so if he makes the right decision, I give them all the credit in the world and the left can cry all they want. want about it. I don't want that war. That war's a disaster, okay? If he goes to the neocomposition,

then he's a bitch. And let's see if Magda's honest about it. When we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about how a children's content creator has become a target for Israel's staunchest defenders. And it is an insane story. Don't miss it. We'll be right back. All right back on TYT, Jank and Anna with you guys. In Guns We Trust wrote in on super chat, Israel's losing support fast. Day Smith and peers just embarrassed. An Israeli lawyer, Natasha Hausdorff, you Dave and Finkelstein are in a light in the darkness through your influence. Thanks for not backing down to evil and smears. Yeah, thank you for saying

that. By the way, that Natasha. It was so good. It was so good. So I wish you guys could see the UCLA debate I did with her. Some choppy video and stuff. But so if she's theoretically an international lawyer, I embarrassed her. She's she's embarrassing. She got totally trounced in that debate with Dave Smith. But honestly, most of the debate was between Pierce Morgan and herself. And it was just, I mean, it was so embarrassing. The lies she told, she was as point blank, does Israel have nuclear weapons, which like, why are we pretending like that's even a secret? Everyone knows Israel has nuclear weapons.

She like pretended like she didn't know. Like, it's just hilarious. Yeah. And so she's like in the beginning of the debate with me, she started with legal stuff, et cetera. And I beat that back. And then eventually she got so desperate. She's like, you're a parasite. She's the one who called you a parasite?

Yeah. Okay, she tried to throw cold water on the story involving the Palestinian doctor who lost nine out of her 10 children in an Israeli airstrike. She's like, well, there, you know, there hasn't really been any confirmation. There hasn't been an investigation into it. Maybe it's not true. Have you been there? Have you been there? No, just you're a woman.

You're embarrassing. Okay, absolutely embarrassing. Imagine trying to pretend as though a mother who just lost nine out of her 10 children might be making it up, might be lying. Disgusting. These people disgust me. Gee, I wonder who's telling the truth. A mom with verifiable evidence or the IDF, literally the biggest liars in the world. I'm glad she's on the record, man. I'm sure history will look back kindly at who you are and what you were willing to spew on behalf of Israeli. Israel's government. All right, let's move on to the next door. You ready? Yep. Let's do it. YouTube Kitty star, Ms. Rachel, I understand, also standing with Hamas.

Leaders, be so ashamed of your silence. Be so ashamed of your anti-Palestinian racism. So ashamed that you don't see Palestinian people or their children as the same as us and our children. Laura, why is everybody suddenly an activist? Now she's kitty care at the Foreign Relations Committee. No one wants to hear that from Ms. Rachel. Well, that was Fox News contributor Raymond Arroyo, who's very offended that a content creator for children on YouTube named Ms. Rachel has compassion for Palestinian children. And Raymond, if you're curious why Americans are so concerned about it, it's because our

taxpayer dollars are used to slaughter innocent children, women, elderly people, civilians in Gaza. We see images and videos of it on a regular basis. And if we're funding it, we have the right to comment on it, criticize it. In fact, even if we weren't funding it, I would still comment on it and criticize it, because we live in America bitch and we get to say what we think about what's happening in our country and around the world. And if you don't like it, turn it off.

But just because you're not hearing your pro-Israel propaganda 24-7 doesn't mean that you get to try to silence someone who disagrees with your take, which is essentially Israel gets to do whatever it wants, break every international law, commit every war crime imaginable, and slaughter innocent kids in Gaza, which is what they've been doing since the beginning of this genocide. Go ahead, Jake. Two quick things about it. So first, the reason why they want to shut down people like Ms. Rachel, and the

why Douglas Murray says, have you been there? And they always do the thing about you're not an expert, okay? Why? They have almost all of our politicians work for Israel. Almost all of our media works for Israel. So you need non-politicians and non-media figures to speak out like Ms. Rachel, right? And by media, she does media as well, but not news.

So when someone is not controlled by Israel and they speak out, they're like, get her, get her, get her off, get her off, get her off. Okay, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not an expert, not an, have you been there? Have you been there? Anti-Semi, get her off. She has no expertise.

No way, don't listen to her. Go back to listening to propaganda that we have perfectly ready for you on mainstream media. Go listen to Dana Bash, go listen to Fox News. Don't worry, right wing, left wing, we got a whole cover. Democrats, Republicans, we got it all covered. 87% of Congress is funded by APAC, congressional members. So just listen to the corrupt. Do not listen to good people who want you to protect children.

And then look at the hypocrisy. You shouldn't listen to any celebrities. Next up, Kid Rock, Woo! Kid Rock's on Arizona and Hulk Hogan. It's so true. Aaron Rogers, like we like celebrities weighing in on politics or policy when they agree with us. Otherwise, shut up.

But by the way, honestly, Raymond, keep going, keep going. Because all of this backfires. And they're too dumb to see it. Because when you, like, just think about how stupid you have to be. stupid you have to be to specifically comment on that video featuring Ms. Rachel, where she's talking about innocent children getting slaughtered with that sweet voice that she has. And you're like, oh, how dare she?

How dare she? Okay, keep going, okay? Every attempt at silencing Americans who have a legitimate concern over the barbarism that's currently playing out in Gaza has backfired on Israel supporters. So if you guys want to keep playing this game, keep playing the game because these efforts to censor people have not been working for good reason. Now, again, Ms. Rachel had the audacity to say on her social media platforms that kids shouldn't starve to death or be killed, whether they're American, Israeli or Palestinian, which shouldn't be controversial, but apparently it is for Israel's staunches supporters. She recently spent time with a three-year-old girl who, devastatingly, is a double ambitial. as a result of the barbarism that's taking place in Gaza.

Her name is Rahaf and she lost her legs in Israeli airstrikes and was luckily medically evacuated to the United States. Other Palestinians aren't so lucky when they need medical care. So you saw the photo of the two together. It was a really sweet video and in response to bringing joy to kids like Rahaf and speaking out on their behalf, Arroyo decided to mock her. Let's take a look. Mr. Rogers, in our day, he didn't start lecturing kids about Russia or Iran or the nuclear threat.

That's not your job. And I worry, everybody feels they have to get on the activist bandwagon now. Miss Rachel, you don't know anything about the Middle East, the Middle East, the Middle East, shish, shish, shush, shush, sure. Maybe we have to just kind of, you know, speaking of vernacular. We think Mr. Rogers actually did weigh on some foreign policy issues and things like the Cold War. We're double checking right now, but I wouldn't expect Raymond Arroyo to know the facts about anything he's talking about. He's just there to spew propaganda on behalf of Israel.

Now, the mockery didn't end there. Laura Ingram also attacked 22-year-old Greta Toonberg for literally risking her life by embarking on an aid trip to Gaza. So let's take a look at that. How is it possible that Greta's crying? Matter how dangerous this mission is, it is nowhere near and dangerous as the silence of the entire world in the face of a life scheme genocide. If only we had silence. How did she go from climate change to Gaza? Wasn't she doing climate change? Her repertoire keeps getting, did she go on the bow and say she was queen of the world?

So just going back to Mr. Rogers briefly, in 1983, he talked about the Cold War on his kids show. I have more. Go ahead. Rogers, this is from Huffpost, Rogers was an uncompromising pacifist. And when Mr. Rogers' neighborhood debuted nationally in 1968, during the height of the Vietnam War, he used his first week of programming to share his anti-war beliefs. Interesting. Wow. You might want to look it up first, dumbass.

Okay. aid to Palestinians in Gaza. And Senator Lindsey Graham commented on this on social media. Let's take a look at his post where he says, hope Greta and her friends can swim. It's so funny. It's so funny killing innocent people. We love it. We can't get enough of it. You're a piece of crap. You know, because Israel, they'll kill anybody. They'll kill children. They'll sink your boat for no reason. Why? Because you disagree with them. If you disagree with them, they'll murder you. Hey, this is our special ally. Let's give him another $20 billion. Now look, there have been many attempts to shut down voices for peace in Palestine.

In fact, attempts to shut down voices for peace in Palestine were put on overdrive, okay? After the horrific attack that we covered on this show earlier this week, that was the attack in Colorado on peaceful demonstrators in Boulder. This happened over the weekend. Luckily, no one was killed, but there was. The perpetrator tried to burn people to death. It was awful. And people like CNN contributor, Scott Jennings, decided to exploit that horrific, you know, event in an effort to censor anyone who's calling for the freedom of Palestinians. Take a look.

This is horrific. And what more do we need to see, Jake, before we realize this free Palestine movement is nothing more than a domestic terror organization right now. I mean, we had the killings in Washington a couple of weeks ago. We have this issue in Colorado, we've seen, you know, the activities on college campuses now for months and months and months and months, the rise of anti-Semitism in America, the rise in the number of people who have come to America who hold anti-American views, anti-Western views, and anti-Semitic views, and are now willing to act on it. It is absolutely outrageous. I don't appreciate the conflation of anti-Israel views being anti-American views. You can be anti-Israel and still very much supportive of the United States, its government, whatever it is.

But he's doing that intentional conflation to make it appear as though anyone who's critical of Israel is anti-American. No, they're not. Yeah, hey, Israeli propagandist. Actually, you know what's anti-American, Israel. When Israel says, hey, give me $300 billion, go to fight the Iraq war for me, start a war with Iran for me, get your boys and girls killed for me, give me trillions of dollars in expenditures in Iraq. I want you to attack all of my enemies in the Middle East. And hey, propagandists, I want you to get everyone in America to hate Muslims.

I want you to start basically an ideological war between America and America. 1.6 billion Muslims for no goddamn reason other than Israel doesn't like Muslims. Israel likes taking Muslim land and slaughtering Muslims while they're taking that land. So we'll get everyone in America to hate Muslims and that will help Israel's purposes. Will that help America? No, no, it's gotten us into a conflict with a third of the world for no reason, no reason other than Israel asked us to. Israel wants it, Israel, Israel, Israel. No, Israel is not our ally, they've taken, taken, taken, and given nothing back, nothing at all. They're the, with allies like this, you don't need enemies.

Yeah. Man, in terms of his comment about domestic terror organization. So now if you say free Palestine, you're a domestic terrorist. Yeah, we know what's happening here. So like, so, no, you, everyone has to be racist against Palestinians. You must be racist. If you're not racist against Palestinians, you're a terrorist. terrorist, okay? No, no. Scott Jennings is a piece of crap, he's filth. And the fact that

over 30,000 women and children have been killed, he thinks, oh, that's great, that's not terrorism. Because those are just Palestinians, their lives are worthless. Yeah. We just slaughter them on behalf of Israel because we fund this genocide. So, but we're not the terrorists. Israel's not the terrorist. Israel propagandists like Scott Jennings and Arroyo are not the terrorists. No, people. Terrorist sympathizers. Yeah, they're massive terrorist sympathizers. You don't get any worse than the terrorism that Israel has done in Gaza.

How many children are you going to slaughter before which obvious that it's terrorism? Well, look, I just want to go to someone who's been super based on this topic. And I can't get enough of his commentary on it. And in fact, he has weighed in on these efforts. to censor pro peace demonstrators in America. Let's take a look at what Dave Smith has to say just today on Pierce Morgan Show. If you remember there was this example of the guy in Florida who is being charged with attempted murder right now, because he shot two people who he thought were Palestinians.

Turned out they weren't, he was wrong. But I would never use that as an example in one of these debates and say, aha, pro-Israel person, you're responsible for that. I'm a free market libertarian, free market capitalist guy. There was a Bernie Sanders fan who shot up a congressional baseball game several years back. I would never use that in an argument and say, you're responsible for that because it's the cheapest, lamest form of argument. You are not responsible if you're telling the truth as you see it, for some crazy person committing a horrific act of violence. By the way, we're talking about ongoing innocent people being killed for over 20 months at this point now.

So like that's what the whole conversation is about. I couldn't have said it better myself. He's absolutely right about it. It's obvious that the horrific event that happened over the weekend is being exploited specifically and cynically to silence legitimate criticism of the government and military of Israel. And I'm just, no one should allow these scare tactics to influence what they're saying publicly. because you are seeing what your eyes are seeing in Gaza. You're hearing it, you're seeing it.

It is horrific and we are funding it. We have the right to speak out against it and no one should get to silence us because of the fact that we're being critical of the Israeli government. We get to be critical of our own government, foreign governments. We have the First Amendment. And as long as we're not inciting violence or engaging in violence, we're good. anyone who's trying to infringe on our First Amendment rights needs to shut the F up, period. Yeah, that's it.

And that Natasha Dumkoff that he was debating, I debated her, you say a law is explained earlier in the show. And since she's supposed to be an international lawyer, she got, of course, she was destroyed by our side because she has no like to stand on. So she resorted to calling me a parasite. Yeah. And that was, by the way, second in a row of an Israeli supporter, dehuman. humanizing their opponents and going, me is specific, and calling me a parasite, two times in a row. What do you do with parasites, right? This is now literal Nazi language.

Yeah, I'm saying it. It is Nazi language they use against their opponents. And they say, oh, what, what, we're not allowed to slaughter over 16 to 17,000 children? We're allowed to slaughter, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? We're not allowed to starve children to death. Of course, oh, blood libel, blood libel. Well, if you accurately point out the number of children we have murdered, we're going to pretend you're anti-Semitic for pointing out a fact of what Israel has done.

By the way, it's not Jews, the government of Israel has done it. And lastly, if you want to see an absolute dismantling in a debate about Israel, watch the one we have on our YouTube channel, the Young Turks. me and Dave Smith combined versus Dennis Prager and Batya Angersargan, okay? We dismantled Dennis Prager. So go check it out and see what a debate looks like when you got, you know, a fair fight. All right, oh, sorry, are we got to take a break? We'll be right back with the second hour.

I want to move on to some other news, including, well, pretty significant crash out when it comes to Donald Trump support among a very specific demo, we'll tell you what that demo is and more when we come back.