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Episode Date: July 17, 2024

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say. The guy! Welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Fuger, Anna Kasparian, live at the RNC, Republican National Convention here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It has been a day. We're just getting started on the show. We've got a long night ahead for you guys. We've got amazing news stories. J.D. Vance bringing a little bit of realignment to politics. at the twist and turns with J.D. Vance is amazing, interesting. New twists on turns on whether Biden's going to stay as the Democratic candidate. We've got not only action from his side, but now the forces against Biden have reemerged. So that's going to be super interesting.

And wait until you get a load of some of our guests tonight. So not only we'll be doing play-by-play coverage of all the speeches, but Mike Lindell is going to join us in a little bit, probably in about 20 minutes or so. And then Rudy Giuliani is threatening to come on in a couple hours. So he's right there. He's right there. So it has been a while day here at the RNC. Somebody was shot outside. That's a whole other story. And so, what? Oh, you don't even know that one?

No. There was a guy with a knife, but it had nothing new with the convention. Just the cops and the Secret Service are so jittery, but it was within a mile of the convention, a guy pulled out a knife and they shot him dead. So anyways, so lots to get to here, but stay all night with us. I mean, last night, if you were watching live, Sean O'Brien, the head of the teamsters, with a shocking speech. And we had, and we know, we're always honest with you guys. We're like that speech is standard. That speech is boring. That speech is not true.

Oh, that one's slightly interesting. And then wham-o, what in the world just happened? He gave one of the most progressive speeches I've ever seen at a Republican or Democratic Convention. I think that's unfair. No, I don't think it's unfair. I don't think Bernie's ever been that harsh against corporate rule, okay? I mean, he's not quite as fiery, and he's not quite as aggressive. I hear what you're saying, but, and you do hate the fact that he doesn't hit corporate corruption.

Yeah, yeah, Sean O'Brien was better on hitting the corporate corruption. So, but that was the keynote speaker in the Republican convention. So what are the world's going on? So if you want to see our play by play and analysis of the Sean O'Brien speech, that's on our YouTube channel. You can check that out. But make sure you're watching live today. Share the stream if you can. All right. So let's get to we've got a lot of stories. All right. So I actually wanted to start off today's show by talking a little bit about Joe Biden's interview with Lester Holt. So this is one of the interviews that, of course, he's doing in an attempt to kind of persuade Democratic voters and also Democrats in Congress that

he's still fit to run for president, to serve as president. So with that in mind, let's get to it. Has this shooting changed the trajectory of this race? I don't know, and you don't know either. But have you taken a step back and done a little soul searching on things that you may have said that could incite people who are not balanced? How do you talk about the threat to democracy, which is real? When a president says things like he says, do you just not? saying he's a man inside somebody. Do you feel like you've weathered the storm on this issue of whether you should be on the ticket or not? 14 million people voted for me to be the nominee. Who do you listen to on deeply personal issues,

like the decisions whether to stay in the race or not? Me. President Joe Biden sat down with NBC's Lester Halt as part of his media tour meant to persuade Democrats, both in Congress and Democratic voters, that he has the energy and the mental acuity to take on Trump. Now, did he make a good case for himself? You know, there have been other, okay, well, we're going to get to a lot of highlights. We're going to show you some videos from the interview. So with that in mind, let's take a look at the first portion of the conversation where they kind of discussed his ability to beat Donald Trump and whether he's

going to stay in the race. I'm going to debate him when we agreed to debate. And I'm going to bring him in September. But if the opportunity came up to do one between now and then, is there a sense of wanting to get back on the horse? I'm on the horse. Where were you been? I've done 22 major events. And thousands of people. Overwhelming crowds.

A lot happening. I'm on the horse. What I'm doing is going out and demonstrating an American people. That I have command of all my faculties, that I don't need notes, I don't need teleprone, I can go out and answer any questions at all. If you were to have continued to run and be officially nominated, what happens if you have another episode like we saw during the debate? What happened? What happens if you have another performance on that par, on that level? I don't plan to have another performance on that level.

Clearly, he is not only planning to remain in the race, but a big question a lot of us had asked is whether Biden still wants to debate Donald Trump. And that debate is set for September. And Jane Key is definitely planning on debating Trump again. Yeah, but there's actually something really interesting in there. Because I thought that was the best question that Lester Holt asked, which is Trump says he's willing to do it again right now. So do you want to do it? And so he said, no, he wants to do it in September. But brother, you're behind.

You're way behind. I mean, there's a poll out where you're losing New Jersey. And right now, we'll get to this a little bit later, but Democrats back in a panic, including all the way through Adam Schiff, right? Because you're about to lose all of Congress. So if I'm behind in a race, I say yes to a debate right away, right away.

Trump must do another debate with you where you could then come back and show how vibrant and great you are and that it was just an off night and you were thinking you're not sick anymore. That's how you make up Brown. And he's saying no. You know why he's saying no? Because he can't handle another debate and he knows it. That you shouldn't be the candidate. It's so obvious. Any candidate that's behind, especially if they're way behind that says no to a debate is a candidate who is a guaranteed to lose, absolutely positively guaranteed because that means they're not even trying to win. Yeah, I mean, do you think that debate is really going to happen?

I mean, look, he's not going to be the candidate by that. That's what I was thinking. Yeah. There is a possibility that that will be the case. But in terms of how he handled that messaging in this interview, it was clear that he remained defiant. And then Lester Holt asked, well, you know, what about what your closest allies in Congress have to say about you? So let's go to that video next. Your allies, James Clyburn, Nancy Pelosi have kind of put it out there that they're waiting for your decision, giving you time to make your decision.

What I hear from you is that you made your decision. Are you still comfortable in that decision? Does anything change in the last several days? No. Who do you listen to on deeply personal issues, like the decisions, whether to stay in the race or not? Me. Look, I've been doing this a long time. The idea that I'm the old guy, I am. I'm old, but I'm only three years older than Trump,

number one. And number two, my mental acuity has been pretty damn good. I've gotten more done than any president has in a long, long time in three and a half years. So briefly, I just want to touch on the talking point that we've heard from Biden and Biden supporters over and over again. And when I say Biden supporters, I'm not talking about the voters. I'm specifically talking about political allies. It is admirable that he has done some things as president of the United States. Massive, you know, legislative goals were met, although it wasn't obviously his entire agenda, not even close. It's not about what he's already accomplished. It's about whether he has the ability to win and beat Donald Trump. And if he

does miraculously, considering how low he is in the polling, especially in the battleground states, if he pulls off that win, is he going to be able to serve another four years? That is the question. We're not asking about your record. We're not even questioning your record. That's not what the conversation is about. And I just hate that it's this constant effort to deflect and talk about his record, but his record has nothing to do with the fact that as you get old, it's a, it progresses. Whatever condition it is, it progresses. It gets worse. So look, every interview is a So look, every interview is a disaster, and it's only a varying levels of disaster.

We're so used to him not being able to finish a thorn. They were like, oh, he didn't pass out of them a little of that interview. Okay, well, maybe he's back on the horses, he says. What horse? What are you talking about? That horse went to Old Town Road a long time ago. So here, let's look at one of our viewers, Lady Lillith wrote in. He's giving aggressive non-answers and getting old man snippy. Exactly right.

That's exactly what I saw in that interview. And in the other interview that he did with Complex. So by the way, I love doing the show with our members. to join button below to become one of the members and become part of the show, okay? So now when I'm watching that debate, that interview, he starts an answer, then switches to another answer, then switches to another answer and switches. He's, he can't even finish the talking voice. He's got like a quarter talking point and then a quarter talking point. Brother, you keep falling off the horse at every answer. Even the ones that were supposed to reassure us,

like, who do you talk to? Now you can say, hey, I took, of course, White House chief of staff, I got my pollsters, I've got consultants, or you know, I got great allies that I trust. These are answers that give us reassurance that you're talking to a variety of people getting their input and making a rational decision, especially when it's so important and democracy is on the line according to you, right? And he says, me, that's the guy I consult with. That's a terrible answer, terrible. And then what happens if you have another episode? First of all, that answer itself was another episode. This is going viral online now because he was like,

you're having it. Right? You're having one. He's like, I don't plan on having another episode. Too late. And it doesn't matter whether you're planning on it. What happens if another one happens? You have to have an answer for that.

He doesn't have these answers prepared. He just keeps going back to the same thing. I watch all these interviews now. Oh, Trump is the one trying to take away democracy. Trump says racist things over and over and over and over again, they ask him, what are you going, what's your agenda for the next term, right? Holt asked, that's a softball. That's as big as softball as it gets. He did not say one thing about the economy. He did not say one policy proposal. He went back to Trump's against democracy.

Well, brother, if you're not going to try, then get the hell out of the race. Well, okay, so I actually want to comment on that. First of all, great point. And his decision to remain in the race has essentially sucked all of the air out of the room and all of the attention on the Democratic side, of course, is now on whether or not Biden is going to continue running, whether or not Democrats are going to find some way to persuade him to step down so someone more competitive can run against Donald Trump. And what's frustrating about that is, especially now that we're at the RNC, and we see the types of conversations. that are taking place. You can feel that voters here are incredibly energized. When we first got here today, there was someone working security who recognized us and happened to be a fan. And he's like, yeah, you know, people are feeling real smug here. And I was like, yeah, I would feel smug too. Who wouldn't feel smug? You know, they're taught. They have the Teamsters president giving a keynote speech. You know, there's just a lot of energy here. And there's talk of policy,

even if it's policy that we don't favor, it's still a much more substantive conversation for their side compared to what we are dealing with on our side. And it's just unfair to Democratic voters to have a Democratic party that is hyper-focused right now on Biden's unwillingness to let go of power and be that bridge candidate or bridge politician that he claimed to want to be when he was running for his first term. It's incredibly frustrating. And shank, the other thing that I'll say is, it has become very clear to me that Biden's not getting the full picture of what the polling suggests, okay? And so let's watch the next clip because he touches on that. And I'll discuss what I mean. Are you all on the same page? Are you seeing what they saw, which was moments of frankly, that appeared to be, you appeared to be confused.

Lester, look. Why don't you guys ever talk about the 18, the 28, the 28 lines? he told. Where are you on this? Why didn't the press ever talk about that? 28 times it was confirmed he lied in that debate. I had a bad bad night. I wasn't feeling well at all. And I had been without him making it. I screwed up. I just asked a question because the idea that you may or may not have seen what some of these other folks have seen, you're not on the same. I'd have to see I was there. I had to see it, I was there. And by the way, seriously, you won't answer the question, but why didn't the press talk about all the lies he told? I haven't anything about that. We have reported many of the issues that came in that debate.

No, you haven't. We'll provide you with them. God love you. Okay. So that's another example of him getting, you know, snippy during this interview. And it's just so weird to see to some extent roles reversed where, you know, we would criticize Trump for being so aggressive for the media for not serving as his mouthpiece. And in this case, you know, Biden seems to think, no, I'm actually doing really well. The race was always close from the start, which it shouldn't have been close from the start. That's insane. And he thinks it's a toss up based on the polling. But once you dig a little bit and you look at the battleground states and you look at states that used to be, I mean, Democratic strongholds like New Jersey, it's a completely different

picture. So the question is, is Biden aware of these points? Or is he just completely delusional? Look, we're having a debate just because the other side is forcing us into it. But this is nonsensical. If you just took a person who's not familiar with American politics and showed him that person, they wouldn't believe that he's running for president. No way. That person looks super old, disjointed answers, cranky, doesn't answer any of the actual questions. Hey, look, people are concerned about how you did in the debate. Well, are you talking about his lies? No, first, look, I don't mind you're bringing up the lies, okay?

But first you've got to establish that you're fine. Of course, like if I, if they ask me that question, I say, well, of course I'm fine. That's why I created twice as many jobs as Donald Trump. And that's why I said in debate this, that the other thing, give him all my policies, reassure us that you're firmly in command and that you're way better and that you're positive for the American people, way better than Trump. And I got this. Then turn to Trump's lies, right? But when you don't even address the question and you're like, hey, listen, Jack. And now what was that awkward laugh? Everything is we don't, it's a train wreck guys. It's a train wreck.

If you can't see it, you're trying super hard not to see it. He's a goner. There's no way he last. This is ridiculous. And every time I see these train wreck interviews, I think Jill Biden is an egomaniac. The first lady, how is she throwing them out there, man? I couldn't stand if a loved one went through one of these excruciating interviews, let alone the debate, which was just an historic embarrassment. And you're going to keep putting your husband through that over and over and over again, because you'd like to stay in power. Let's be honest. So let's take a break. come back, I wanted to kind of get into this war that's playing out between some Democratic congressional lawmakers and the Democratic National Committee. Remember, there was this plan

to do an early virtual roll call vote with the delegates to essentially solidify Biden as the nominee. Is that going to happen? Well, we've got a huge story on that when we come back. Don't listen. You would never abuse power as retribution against anybody, except for to day one. You're not going to be a dictator, are you? I said, no, no, no, other than day one. it. Are you still going on about the last election? If you follow me, you would know that what I'm going on about is getting rid of the machines and getting to paper ballots. He encountered like so many other countries around the world have outlawed and they get to paper ballot. I want to have elections since in the spring of 21. I went on Jimmy Campbell. And Jimmy Kimball asked me, said, Mike, he goes, if your friend Donald Trump had been selected like you say, Biden was, would you still be sounding an alarm?

By that time, I already knew it wasn't about the one. It's what we have to have. secure election. That's when I'm in about it. I think that's pretty reasonable. I think paper ballots are important. Right. Absolutely. 17 countries have outlawed the machines. Another about 30 countries have outlawed early voting, mailing voting. Here in the United States, we have the worst election platforms in the world. And as certain that in Democrats member, they wanted the machines gone for a long time. These unipar party Republicans that I fight every single day, including Robin Boss right here in Wisconsin, it's disgusting that

They come on to keep the machines. So does Donald Trump and his crew still support what you're doing or have they distance themselves a little bit from it as far as what? No, he says it all the time, paper ballots and count he wants to get there. He wants whether, no matter what happens, we have to get there, you know. So look, if you say paper ballots, Anna and I agree, it's, you know, it depends on the details. No, no, no, no, it depends on the details, right? But we agree with on recounts, hand recounts, et cetera.

But do you really think that the, that election was stolen in 2020, still? after all this time after all the courts said it wasn't after there was no evidence. Here's what I say the 2020 election will go down as the most important election in history and here's why. But when I in November and December of 2020, I did my own investigation. I went out and got the voter rolls and what I seen and I got them in every state and every county by the time it took about two or three months. But what I noticed was people voted in all these states that didn't live there in counties and that disturbed me because I couldn't imagine in my own home state of Minnesota. Hey, I get 5,000 people more. Hey, you guys, let's go and jump in Wisconsin

committed a crime. People are genuinely good people. And I didn't, I couldn't explain it. It didn't make sense. So then when I got evidence given to me on January 9th of 2021, that it was done by computers, that explained that you can do the power of numbers and something like that. And then since that time, do I believe it was taken then? I believe it was taken then. Yes, I do. I believe it was still. But I'm so glad that Donald Trump did not get put back in that. Because it took three years, we had lost our country forever. It took three years of what I've done, my teams on the ground and the investigations into all the stuff that's been to reveal. What the Democrats, my own Senator Amy Klobuchar and Kamala Harris said to get there's problems with these machines.

They can't, we got to get rid of these computer. All that's been exposed with through cast vote records, which is under the Freedom of Information Act, we all can request these. We got them all and there was almost every county was computer manipulated one way or another. And why no one else agrees with not just with Republicans, Democrats too. I deal with most I do with Democrats on that one because they'll be more helpful. I was in Georgia. This lady got in the summer of 22, three Democrats, this nice lady, her husband, she got zero votes in her own precinct. Crooked Brad Rassenberger, the secretary of state of Georgia, they actually had a quick look into it.

Oh, I'm sorry, you got 3,000 some votes. She went from third to first. Another Democrat, four counties over, she got 4,600 votes, but she wasn't on the ballot. And these things, as we investigated, and right now in Georgia, they finally brought this judge, brought this last fall. She was an Obama appointed judge. She got brought this case, the curling case against Crooked Brad Rastonberger now in the Secretary of State. Can I say that on your show? You can say it because I, hold, yeah, hold on.

So anyway, but I'm going to finish and explain it. So find the case in the fall in October. Rad, I mean, the judge said, you know what? These experts, says Alex Holderman, that he got to look inside the computers and he says, there's problems. So we're going to push this forward. And she said, if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theory. I got to take off my tinfoil hat on my whole, my show Jimmy Campbell had it on there.

He'd say, I used to, you know, put me taken up. But this case went to court on January 9th of this year. The Holderman hacked into the machine in five minutes. with a ballpoint pin in front of the judge. And the judge now is sitting on that to ruin. One of the few cases in the United States where a judge looked at stuff based on merit. And this isn't to overturn any election of 2020. This is for me, what I'm doing now, and what I've been focused on is get to paper ballots and count it no matter what it takes or what it has to get revealed. We've got to get to where we have elections where everybody trusts them.

In Kansas in the 2020 election, I was getting from my team, all these Democrats, votes being flipped to Republican. At the same time, down in, down in Arizona and Kerry Lake, the machines 242 and went bad. Why are we using these? If you have bad drinks on a car, you get rid of them. Okay, hold on. Hold on, no, no. And it's going to ask the question. I just want to be clear to the audience. No one else agrees with what Mike Wendell say. Okay. Well, the other day, you hear that audience. Hold on why. Okay. CNN, they agree with me. Okay. I'm just clear. Okay. No, nobody agrees that we should go to paper ballots, hand counted. No, no, all the so-called facts you said about the Rafferza murder being third and then first and the boat switching.

No one else believes that. Democrats don't believe that. Republicans don't believe that. Democrats who lost don't believe that. Republicans who lost don't believe that. I don't know why they're. So I'd like to pivot a little bit if that's okay. Yeah, because there have been some interesting developments during this convention.

And, you know, as a successful business owner, I'm really curious what you think about it. because yesterday the Teamsters president gave a giant speech. He was the keynote speaker. I was impressed by the speech to hear a pro-labor, pro-worker message at the Republican National Convention is pretty much unheard of. And as a business owner, when you hear a leader of a massive union talk about taking corporations to task, talk about increasing taxes and all of that, what are your thoughts about that. My thoughts, I look at the situation we're in now that doesn't make sense where the price

of everything is going up and it's because of shipping costs. And then you have open borders. You have these nonsensical things that don't help anybody either. I'm talking about the people know, not the party. So I look at things of anybody out there, whatever they're saying on the stage or whatever they're doing. It's one thing to, you know, do what you're saying or saying what you're doing. Well, I look at stuff in real time and go, if politicians make decisions and you look at and you go, okay, who's that going to help? They have a hidden agenda. And it's a very evil agenda. That's where I'm at. That's where I'm at. I look at things. I spent time. I was in Chicago in the heart of Chicago a month ago. I invited 500 Democrats. All of them

were in there. And I was filming them, talking to them all. They'll talk to me. They don't talk to me as evil. I was a former crack addict. I've said who I was. I'm very open of who I am. I'm the American dream on steroids to take down and get fruit and for the grace of God and get rid of those addictions. And I thought my calling would go around helping everybody out of addiction to Jesus Christ and said if this election stuff comes along. I would you think I'd still be sounding the alarm that going, hey, we got to overturn the 2020. No, that ship's sale. What it is is I want to get to paper balance hand county because I know the danger. Do you want to pay more in taxes?

I believe there could be different taxes. You know, for me, I have my own thing. I believe there should be an internet tax. You have box stores that pay all this stuff. They pay for everything and the internet, you have, including my company, you've got all this stuff that you can put an internet tax out there. Then you're taxing these big things like you're, you're, and you know, your Amazon's of the world that they, you know, that plot, these platforms that don't pay anything for

the internet to use the internet. The box stores, we have to all pay for rent and property tax and all these things. If you did that, the price of our goods would come down. They would come down. You think they'd come down, really? I think they went, if we had an internet tax, they should level the playing field for our box stores. But you know, I just, I don't want people to miss it.

So you're saying we're done with the 2020 election. We're done. I have said that if you've been following me, I haven't said one thing about overturning the 20 tries since the spring of 21. Okay, all right, we're clear. I want to say this, my biggest attack on my pillow, you know, I've been sued for billions. Okay, billions upon billion, a company of employee own company, made in the USA, everything we want is the American dream.

They have been sued. They did nothing. Their CEOs out there going, hey, we need to go to paper ballot sandcount. I came up with a plan last August to do just that. And since then, I've been attacked more than I wasn't 21. Every single day, D-B platform, D-this, and you know what? We're getting through it by the grace of God. But they, you know, just like, no, can I say my new plan right now? I want everyone in this country to request their mail-in ballot. Don't open And when you go to vote, if they say you already voted, you say no idea. This is called identity. That's like if I'd steal your identity.

And this isn't a Democrat and Republican thing. This is the people thing. I have so many people, but Democrats and Republicans that went to vote. They said, I'm sorry, you already voted for it. It happened three months ago in Texas. It was on the news. A district attorney Democrat went to vote and they said, I'm sorry, you already voted. She goes, no idea.

She can't prove it. But Mike, you know, that could happen in a very odd case. And that's why I made the news because it was so odd, right? No, it's because she had a platform. No, there's so, but every court that you've gone to and then Trump has gone to and that all of you guys have gone to says there's absolutely no evidence of wide scale fraud. He's putting judges that were placed in my Donald Trump. Let's talk about Wisconsin here.

Okay. And in this in 21, the Robin boss, the biggest blocker I ever told you about, and he's a Speaker of the House here in Wisconsin. He ordered an investigation. He hired Michael Gableman, an ex-Supreme Court judge of Wisconsin. He did a year-long investigation, and at the end of the investigation, he had a list all this fraud that happened in Wisconsin. Robin Boss said, I know there was widespread fraud, but I can't do anything until a court rules on it. Two weeks later, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin came out and said there was all this fraud, and Robin Boss went into hiding. That's fact. It's in the news. It's in the news. It's fact. Robin Boss is one of the biggest blockers

to free our elects to get us to paper ballots. How do you explain Republican candidates winning in down-ballot races in 2020 when, you know? No, no, we're not talking about Republican. The Republicans in the in the private, that's where they take, take out the candidates they want. We're not talking about a president. No, no, I'm talking about in general races for congressional seats, right? General races for congressional seats. You know what I believe in?

The unit party. This isn't a Democrat or Republican thing, you have never heard me bad. mouth, the Democrats. If you follow me, you know why bad mouth? Unip Party Republicans every single day because they block me. I go into red states, Alabama, they're giving an example. Alabama, South Dakota, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas. They all block. You think I'd be able to go in there and go, oh, you guys are Republicans. You should get rid of these machines and get paper, right? First one I went to was John Merrill, Secretary of State in the summer of 21. I went into Alabama, paid 40 grand for their voter rolls. I go, John, do you realize, and this is right out of their machines,

Do you realize that there's 4,660 people that voted here in Alabama that are over 110 years old? He looked at me and says, well, we live pretty good here in Alabama. I thought he was making a joke. He didn't even want to look into it, you know? So look, Mike throws out a lot of fact. I don't want to say facts. No, no, no, no, Mike throws out a lot of talking points, etc. Okay, and so I want I want you to know. Look, so We're not going to know about whether the local Alabama guy you talked to is actually said that or didn't say that. And so there's no way that I could instantly fact check you on that. And but, but okay, but in terms of the, the courts that look at the Trump forward,

the Trump went to 60 and his allies went to 61 different courts. They lost every single time that you claim Democrats or Republicans are losing because they get got cheated, but they're not complaining that they got got cheated. And so I don't know why they would give up their power voluntarily. So, Mike, if you say verify the vote, everybody agrees, right? But once you start making allegations about things that are not provable. You have not heard me say anything about the 2020 election since the summer of 21. I have sat out there and say, melt down the machines, turn them into prison bars. And I've been after every uniparly Republican.

When I talk about the 2020 election, when I talk about that, that is the most important. Because it's going to manifest and get us to a safe that we should be the example to the world of good elections. Democrats, Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, in the movie Kill Chain in 2018, I know these guys. You can go watch it right now. All of them said, we've got to get rid of the machines because we can't rely on that. Our government deemed our election critical infrastructure. We got to treat it as such. I don't care if you're a Democrat or Republican.

We've got to treat it. Now, did it? By the way, let me ask you one last thing about that. Back then, did I want election overturned to Donald Trump? Absolutely for what I had seen. But you know what? Now that I know now, I'm so happy that didn't happen because I had to find out over three years,

hey, these are critical. We've got to go to paper ballots. I talked to France, Germany. I was on the phone with the UK and their reselection. We have learned what the best practices are, and we've got it up. We've got it up on my site. On July 18th, get excited.

This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurf my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry. Smurfs. Only date is July 18th. I know I'm not making this a partisan thing, but, you know, some of the same Republican lawmakers who were on your side about the election allegedly being stolen from Trump, why do you think that when they had the opportunity to vote on legislation to enhance our election security, they all voted no.

Why do you think that? I don't even think they looked at it, to be honest with, I think you have a lot of fear out there. Judges have fear. Everybody has fear. When you talk about machines and stuff, here's why. On February 4th of 2021, Smartmatic Suit Fox News, that started law fair in this country that hadn't been done since 1792. All the conservative media, Fox News, Newsmax, Salem Media, they all cowered down. They're like weather channels that won't report tornadoes or hurricanes. So that happened.

Who do I rely on? As you know, all my friends call me, the CNN that you see follow me. I'm friends with all these guys. They attack me, but I welcome that because I can get the word out. We got to go to paper baller. know what I've been doing over here, over there at the convention? They go, in the news today, you can look it up. USA, they said every question asked Mike Lundell.

All he kept saying for the answer, we got to go to paper balance and counting. All the other stuff to me is a distraction. So when you ask me about what they said on the stage, the Republican Party, that part don't matter. What I want to do is get to a free and fair election and save the American dream. Last question about the elections. So Donald Trump, when he wants the Republicans to do something in Congress, was very good at it. He recently blocked the immigration bill that they had already agreed to.

The Republicans actually had proposed it and he said, no, take down your own bill. And they did. So why do you think that he never pressed Republicans in Congress to actually do election reform? Right. When theoretically, he- Legislation didn't share paper ballots for instance. We didn't know enough. And if you guys know, there were- You can do it now. There were so many deviations that happened in the 2020. where there are people, illegally, Secretary of States across our country, both Democrat and Republican, made decisions based on an anomaly in history because legislatures make the

laws, not the Secretary of State. So the stuff they did then, right or wrong, some of them did it, maybe for other reasons, but they did it because we were in an anomaly. Those things need to be looked at and we go back to where we were. We don't have that stuff. No, why are we using? You're going to get into all different. There's two states that wanted to go to texting your ballot.

in an email, you know, which states? Where would we be? This was done in Utah and Oregon, in a couple of counties. They wanted people to vote by text. By text and email. All of our Yucava votes are by email now. You know that right? I don't know that.

I would have to fact check that. No, that's true. That's true. You can still do a 45 day mail in ballot, but Obama. Okay, so that didn't answer the Trump question. Here's the question. The question is, that didn't answer the Trump question at all.

The question is where right now, what's all been revealed is, you know, When he gets in, and he said himself, we need to go to same day voting paper ballots. You know what I've told him. I said, you know what I know I'm fighting them of machine companies and what the, and I call it the Unip Party globalists out there. I'm fighting that. Not the Democrat Party of the Republican Party.

I think it's deeper than that. I said, and this is their tool for election. So in order for him, if he gets in and he says, hey, we got to go to same day voting, you've got to have the people behind it, all people. That's why my plan, and I'm telling, I'm meeting in Chicago, I'm going to the and see I'm going to go there. I want to go there and say, hey, we all need to grab our mail-in ballots. And then when you go to vote, if they say you voted, that's identity theft. Then everybody's going to be upset with that in your county.

You said, hey, my Amy and Joe, they went down to vote, and they said they already voted, and they had the ballot. Then it will get looked into. So we all agree on a safe and secure election, going forward, going forward. All right, can I tell you something, so I wanted to fill out my mail-in ballot, but it ran out of time. So I took it in, just like you want, in California. You know what they said? Mike Lindell has already voted for you. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

No. No. That's an experience. See what I don't do that. I told the CNN guys, I went live. Okay. So, no, they, by the way, that did happen except the last part, obviously. They're like, oh, no, it shows that you didn't vote yet.

So yes, handed in and you'll be able to vote. So it went perfectly fine, even in your scenario. I'm just curious. Example, so many people got there, even in the news and call they got there. I was out there then and they went all the way in to vote. They said, you've already voted. Now they sit there and they're like calling him a liar and they call them a liar and they go, no, I didn't vote, but they say we'll fill out a provisional ballot. By the way, California has some great laws nobody knows about when it comes to the

handicap what they had because that's the excuse they used to keep the machine. In California, their law was very good. It's like when you and I have a notary, there's so many different kinds of handicapped. And if I come in, I got assigned, you know, this is okay if this person It's my vote. It's like Cyan, or you give him permission, no matter what's your handicap is that you're covered for him to be able to see who you voted for. Or you bring it, you know. Okay. So for a while, it looked like my pillow was going bankrupt. Did it not happen? Is it still in business? We had our biggest week of the year last week. And that's happened last year when I announced the plan. American Express never been late in my life. They went away. We got debank, demerchant server. Our vendor, they cut credit back. So we had a $25 million. In other words, if I had a 120-day credit without self-product from overseas to get,

they switched it down to 30 days. Well, I became the bank for millions upon millions of dollars. Then other vendors that were way jumped on board. And because we were, but, you know, it's through a lot of prayer that we've gotten this far that we got through it all. But the media grabs that. And I don't understand why they attack a company like my pillow, the American dream. I used to be the media's darling.

But, you know, Mike, you walk across the street. How many more employees are you hiring while you're doing so much for addiction, so much for the veteran, so much for the inner city. I had a foundation. All I did was poor money into everywhere. Money is not a thing that I want to help people. When I did that, then in the summer of 16, I met Donald Trump. I never voted my life. I was a crack guy. I said, hey, this guy, I talked to his employees. They said, good man, good later night. And I talked to him. He one-on-one. He asked me about my pill and being in the country and how's it working out. And it was just a one-on-one of talking to a businessman. Then he asked about, I said, you know, I used to be a crack addict, the Lindele Recovery Network, and he said, I'm going to stop the drugs for him.

So I went all in for him. And I did a press release. All of a sudden, the media hated me. They, in fact, they called me, they called me the biggest drug dealer in Minneapolis. And my drug dealer stuck up for me and said, he never dealt a drug in his life. He tried to rid Minneapolis and drugs by doing them all, you know. Okay. All right.

So with my point being, then the better. a business bureau took my pillow from an A plus to an app is still an out. That's just fantastic. I got attacked for what I believe was a great, great candidate. Yeah. That's wrong. You know, I actually have a follow-up question about that because, you know, you have been willing to sacrifice almost everything, right? Your, your business, your reputation, all of that to help Trump, you know, you believe that the election was- That's not true. You're what you're saying there. Well, I mean, your support of Trump is what kind of propelled.

You know, let me want to get rid of their feet. The last year has been the biggest attack on me in history and my company. Why? I don't sit out there and say the, don't you think that one says, well, the 2020 election, that ship sailed. It's because I want to get rid of the machines. There's a lot of power. And you want to get rid of the machines. Let me ask the question. Right. So there have been reports that the Trump family has kind of like distanced themselves from you. Is that really? What was last time you spoke to them or anyone from? I was with our great real president about a week ago. I spent two hours with them. down in Mar-a-Lago, I said, we're friends.

When I heard about this assassination attempt, I was actually landing and I couldn't get to the truth there, I was crying, bawling, because he's my friend. It wasn't like, oh, what's going to happen to the world? He's my friend, and he's a good man. That's what it was, and I was praying for him on the plane. That's what it was. So you guys do talk regularly, and he consults with you.

We talk regularly as friends. When people say, oh, did they talk about this? No, we talk about we're friends. I don't have an agenda, and he knows. that you know we encourage we're all he's always optimistic i've told him you know we he worries about our country he says the destruction that's going and i said you know god's got his hand and all this you look up patience you don't see a picture me and probably not him either right but i said this is on god's timing not ours we get to a great place for our country which i believe we have to have

secure elections but i don't care who's empowered that doesn't matter and we get to that great place we're going to look back and say all of it had to happen just the way it did to uh you God's giving us grace right now for such a time as this. And our end goal is obviously everybody to get to heaven. I think people don't look to God when things are going good. They look to it when things aren't going so good. And people are praying. Okay, so I've been praying for you, you know.

Well, thank you. I appreciate it. Okay, and I didn't know you were still doing pillow talk with Trump, but that's good. That's interesting. Okay, so one last thing. He's a very good friend of mine. And so one last thing. So you, you center your life around prayer a lot and faith. That's it. Right. So did that start with the fellowship or did you meet the folks of the fellowship, the family and the prayer breakfast, et cetera, after you got released?

No, here's what happened. In January 16, 2009, I prayed. I was a, you know, I had all these addictions, crack cocaine, alcohol, cigarette, you name it. I prayed to God that I would wake up and never have the desire again. And I woke up and it was gone. But it was such a transformation. I thought that's the thing. day I got saved. I look at things as mathematical odds to prove that God exists. If you see something that's a one in a million or one in a billion, or this is impossible, when do you add it together and consider it a miracle? And things started happening to me all the way up to February 18th, ready for this? 2017, when I got on my needs and got a full surrender to Jesus Christ. Now I had one thing I couldn't do. I could never talk in front of people. You can see me on a commercial, but here I am a month later. You're talking now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can't stop here.

You know why? I had fear rejection. You don't get rejected if you don't talk. I had fear publicly two people. I couldn't talk to you to. And a month after I got saved there, in the U.S. Bates Stadium in front of 50,000 people, they told a little bit of my story of being of this crack cocaine and getting saved.

And I have to lead 50,000 people in prayer. I didn't even know how to pray at that time, you know. How do you feel about, you know, Yeah. The Republican Party kind of poking fun of Hunter Biden's record. I think it's horrible anybody poking fun of anything of the Biden's, you know. I mean, you've never heard me. You know the shirt that said, let's go, Brandon. I wouldn't even take picture of people to have that. I thought it was, you know, absolutely not. I mean, you know, this isn't about Democrats and Republicans.

This is about us as people. You know, Hunter Biden had a terrible addiction like I did, you know. In fact, I heard someone had to talk to him and said, you know, my Hunter Biden actually says, You're one of the people on the right that he really likes. Are you also into modern art now? No. Are you a Ukrainian gas expert at all? No, okay. I hope he really did get safe because the only way I have my addiction platform,

LindoRecovery Network.org, and getting off all your addictions is just a bonus, getting to our real Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is where it leads you to. And I hope Hunter Biden got there. I pray he did. His people say it's because he met this gal or whatever. And, you know, hopefully that leads him to completely stay off and stuff. Yeah. Well, he met a gal, you met a guy.

The guy you met is named Jesus Christ. That's exactly right. I thought you were going to say, I love this guy. Oh, Mike. I'll tell you what, I come in with a whole different attitude of you know. And he promised me, and you kept your promise. He didn't use God's name in vain today. I didn't swear, we got along.

All right. You must have seen when I called that lawyer or something, right, on TV. And I said the e-hole thing, remember that? Yeah. It was fun. He didn't call my pillows lumpy. He's okay. Okay.

All right, listen, we obviously, this Iran a lot, but I appreciate the conversation. I appreciate you. Thank you. It's good to have this conversation. I think they both. All right. All right, thanks, guys. Thank you.

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Republican Congressman from Florida, essentially crashing an interview that former Speaker of the House, Matt Gate, Kevin McCarthy was doing. And as you can hear from the video, he's essentially taunting Matt Gates. And first he starts off by asking, are you going to speak? And he's not slated to speak at the R&C. And then says that McCarthy would get boot off the stage, should he have been someone slated to speak today? I don't know how true that is. I do think, that there is an interesting division within the Republican Party. There's like, there are factions forming, if you will, the economic populist, or at least those purporting to be economic populace, versus like the old guard of conservative,

traditional Republicans, which I think is representative of what Matt Gates is. Now, Matt Gates, of course, after he was ousted from the House, or ousted from his position, as Speaker of the House, he then resigned from Congress altogether. So he's no longer an elected official. And since then, he's kind of dedicated his time to attacking Matt Gates. He has accused Matt Gates of paying to have sex with the 17 year old. He just says it. Like he says it in interviews, Jank, that I watch time to time. And so that bad blood is still very much there. And it's entertaining to watch. I can you can say that. Yeah. So look, I got really mixed feelings on this. So number one earlier today, I was doing a Pierce Morgan interview.

Some of you might have seen it as someone to crash the set again, right? And and afterwards he told me, yeah, but people get famous by crashing your set. Oh, right, that's good. That's nuts, right? But he was a rando, Matt Gates is a U.S. Congressman. That's kind of embarrassing to like when you're not being interviewed, to go and try to crash someone else's interview. Yeah, you know how aggressive I am, but I would never do. I would never do that.

Yeah, it's embarrassing. And it's not the proper time and place. Like look, I challenge the establishment 24-7, but you've never seen me do anything like that. Because we all have to take turns. We all have to let each other speak. We have to have a conversation, right? And so just trying to bust up someone's interview is like a cheap stunt that like a low-level YouTuber would do. 100%. You don't respect the broadcast because think about all the people working on that show, producing that show, it's a live interview, you know. And so what you went through today with the Pierce Morgan show and your interview getting interrupted. Like, it's just, it's ridiculous

and it's clownish behavior. So I hear what you're saying. What I think is interesting to watch is how this conflict between Gates and McCarthy keeps going. And to be fair to Gates, I guess, McCarthy has pretty much made it his mission to try to destroy Gates. Hasn't worked so far. But it is amazing to me. how bitter McCarthy still is after being ousted from his position as Speaker of the House. Yeah, but I get that. I mean, if you're a Speaker of the House is a giant job and it only lasted a very short period because of Matt Gates. And so, and what I think McCarthy is trying to do is he's not going above the fray and he's not going to take, you know, well, he'll take a lobbyist job and all that too as well, right? But he's basically attaching himself to Matt Gates's legs like Stan Van Gundy and he's not letting go. And what he's doing is he's dragging down Matt Gates because any consideration of putting him in an important position is gone because it's going to split the party.

And the McCarthy folks are going to be super mad. And if you notice the drama, when Trump came out last night and during the convention, you got this huge applause, right? And he was sitting next to Speaker Johnson. And remember Marjorie Taylor Green attacked Speaker Johnson. And then Marjorie Taylor Green had a tiny, tiny speaking role here. First one to speak on Monday only for two minutes, basically in the afternoon when no one is watching. So Mike Johnson won that battle, Marjorie Taylor Green has lost that battle, even within the Trump world. So the more Kevin McCarthy fights with Matt Gates, the more both of them are hurt.

But says McCarthy's out of power, he doesn't care. So and but Gates can't let it go either. And it's personal because of the charges of the 17 year old, etc. Now, look, I think that there's one person who's clearly more right than the other on policy. I'm going to get to that in a second, but did you want to say something? Well, I wanted to give you a little more information about what happened today, not just during that whole spat that you watched on tape, but also what happened after the fact. So the person who capture that video is with News Nation.

His name is Joe Khalil and he later tweeted the following. Shortly after this moment, we interviewed former speaker McCarthy who repeated what we've heard from him before. Gates is upset with him because he wouldn't end the ethics investigation into allegations Gates paid for sex with a minor. Which, I mean, look, if that is true, if Gates was really pestering him to end an ethics investigation, into Gates and McCarthy said, no, I'm not going to do that. And that's the reason why Gates retaliated by ousting him, a Speaker of the House. Gates is definitely in the wrong, obviously. And McCarthy actually did the right thing. Right, but that's a giant if.

Right, exactly. Because they're both huge liars. So there's no way of knowing, because it's also possible that it's the reverse that since Gates ousted, McCarthy's like, oh yeah, even though federal prosecutors are dropped looking into your, the 17-year I'm going to now do an ethics investigation because you annoyed me and you cost me my power. And so that's it. I'm starting an ethics investigation on you, which now let's be honest, if that was a corporate Republican that Kevin McCarthy didn't have a beef with, there's no way in the world they would have started an ethics investigation of a guy that the Biden Justice Department said they're not going to bother to prosecute. There's no way that McCarthy would

have done that to one of his allies in the Republican Party. So they're both, like, you shouldn't trust either one of them, okay? And I don't know who's telling the truth about the ethics investigation. And they're, and I don't much care, right? So in terms of policy, if we care about that, yeah, so Matt Gates is worse on social issues. And so I've got bigger complaints with him about that for sure, but it's not like McCarthy's good on any of those issues. McCarthy's a monster on everything, right? I don't know that Kevin McCarthy is right about a single policy issue, okay? So Matt Gates, on the other hand, is now joined the populist wing of the day of the Republican Party and is right a couple of percentages of the time.

So when he says they shouldn't do insider trading anymore, he's correct about that. And he's done some other anti-corruption legislation, which that Rokana has signed on to, AOC is signed on to. So on policy, Matt Gates is better than Kevin McCarthy. That doesn't excuse anything he might or might not have done with that girl. And, trying to fight against the ethics investigation, and no matter how much you may hate Matt Gates, trust me that Kevin, you're not going to agree with a single thing Kevin McCarthy is in favor of. He's a corporatist and a Trump guy, whenever it suits him, right? He's the worst of the worst. So, Jake, this is a little bit of a tangent, but I think it's important to have this conversation right now,

considering the context. You know, you talk about the differences policy-wise or ideological differences between Matt Gates versus Kevin McCarthy. And I see those ideological differences as well. And you provided very specific examples in which Matt Gates was willing to work alongside Democrats, even progressives like AOC, to pass policies that you and I certainly favor. And so what do you think is really going on with the Republican Party? Right? Because, you know, some portion of the audience will get mad when we talk about how great

Sean O'Brien speech, the keynote speaker at the R&C. was last night, oh, you know, Republicans aren't serious about doing any of the good stuff that we would want. But it does seem like there are at least a handful of some Republican congressmen who are interested in bipartisan legislation, not on right wing issues that Republicans typically favor, but on issues that we typically favor. Yeah, no, look, there's no question that the populist wing is more crazy on social issues. But there is also no question that that they are way better on corporate issues. And so I don't know that any of them are good on economic issues.

But when I say corporate issues, I mean the donors and their corruption and the power that they have. And so that is why corporate media still loves Kevin McCarthy. They think Matt Gapes was a villain for taking down Kevin McCarthy. And they always like, oh my God, can you believe they don't, the Republicans are having trouble because they don't agree. Well, that's not such a bad thing if the majority of the Republican Party says, yeah, we'd like to be corrupt and keep doing a cider trading and keep taking corporate pack money. And Gates and a couple of other guys like Tom, like, like Massey, who I actually

like respect. And again, I don't agree with them on social issues. I don't agree with them on a thousand things. But Tom Massey is one of the very, very few guys who has principles in Congress, Republican from Kentucky. Okay. And so if those guys are going to work with us on anti-corruption and anti-war legislation, which Gates did that with Rokana as well. right even when Trump was in charge and he said the president has to ask for authorization before going to war well i'm going to take yes for an answer on those bills and i want you guys to know some of the reason that these guys get smeared is logical the marjorie taylor green gates say crazy things right but some of the reasons they get smared is because they're

against corporate control and so some of it is fake some of it is real and it gets really complicated but there is a portion of the populist right wing is certainly among the voter is the voters. And among a couple of politicians on a couple of issues where they actually are going in the right direction. And that's when mainstream media hates them the most. All right, well, we got to take a break. So why don't we do that? And then when we come back, I don't think we have another interview. So we'll get to that really important story about what Congress is planning to do to essentially push Biden out. We'll be right back. Thank you.