The Young Turks - Nauta Good Idea

Episode Date: April 24, 2024

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Donald Trump's in legal trouble. A couple of different cases to tell you about. Person number 16, who is that? And why might they be the most relevant person in America? And John Stewart did a segment that I just absolutely loved. I love that guy. Same, I did like this segment a lot. Yeah, so we'll talk about that a little bit later.

He's, he's going into a room, he's finding all the liberals, and he's rasseling them with that segment, okay? Oh, I know. No, no, if John Stewart doesn't watch himself, soon he's going to be in our category, a persona non grata. Oh, are we naughty? Are we the naughty ones on this show? Well, okay, later we get naughtier. Okay, fun for everybody, let's do the show. All right, well, we begin with some infighting among the right,

and in particular against Mike Johnson, the House Speaker. So let's discuss. Mago Republicans like Don Jr. have been pretty furious with House Speaker Mike Johnson, the gentleman that you see right next to me, the gentleman who secured nearly a hundred billion dollars in military funding for wars abroad. But despite the criticism he's facing from the America First MAGA crowd, it turns out that the Don himself, Donald Trump, is still backing Johnson,

putting him directly at odds with his own son, and again, the America First base. Now yesterday Trump was asked point blank about why the base is so upset with Mike Johnson following the House passage of that military funding bill, or I should say military funding bills, since there were four separate ones. Nonetheless, here's how he responded. How do you square this divide now between Maga and Mike Johnson with your support of him and our base? Well, look, we have a majority of one, okay? So it's not like he can go and do whatever he wants to do. I think he's a very good person. You know, he stood very strongly with me on the NATO, when I said that NATO has to pay up, and they have to pay up soon and fast,

and he has stood strongly on that. He agrees with that. He also got some of the money in the form of a loan, quite a bit of the money in the form of a loan, and he, you know, felt on that. But it's a tough situation when you have won. I think he's a very good man. I think he's trying very hard. And again, we've got to have a big election. We've got to elect some people in Congress much more than we have right now. And we have to elect some good senators, get rid of some of the ones we have now, like Romney and others. And we have to have a big day and we have to win the presidency. Gotta take that opportunity to throw Romney under the bus, of course. But for those who are unfamiliar with the whole NATO debacle, what Trump is referencing there

was the pressure that he applied to other NATO countries to invest more money on their militaries, on their defense and to Trump's credit, he did succeed in doing that. Germany in particular really did bolster the military funding that they were, you know, putting into their own military. So that's what he's referring to, Jank. Yeah, so look, I can't wait together the cat fight between Donald Trump Sr. and Donald Trump Jr., but quick note here, he always cracks me up as heinous as he is. He agreed with me very strongly.

Very strongly. No one ever agrees with him mildly. They're always very strong in their agreement of them, okay. Now, I should also note a few other things. Now, Trump has been pretty vocal against Ukraine. This has been the case even when he was president. And so I thought that if anything, he would be critical of the $65 billion that has been allocated for Ukraine, thanks to these funding bills.

But he was not critical of that, he didn't mention that. And I think it's probably because Johnson had met with Trump and during the that meeting, Trump had communicated that he felt that the military aid to Ukraine should be in the form of a loan. And about 10 billion of that 65 billion will be in the form of a loan to Ukraine. So maybe Trump feels heard, but it is interesting that he's taking a pragmatic approach here by mentioning the very slim majority that Republicans have in the House. Now, let's move on to the other side of this equation, which is the MAGA crowd that is not happy with Mike Johnson, and that includes Donald Trump's own son, Don Jr.

Now, he posted a video on X just last week with the caption, if you ever even begin to start believing anything, anyone in Republican leadership tells you, watch this, and this is the video that he posted. Telling all of you, and we've told the American people, border, border, border. We have to affect real policy change at the border, and that is a necessary condition to anything we do going forward. We have to take care of our border first. That's what the American people demands.

Every state in America is now a border state. Border, border, border. How can we be engaged in securing the border of foreign countries if we can't secure our own? We know the urgency in Ukraine. We're going to stand for freedom and make sure that Vladimir Putin doesn't march through Europe. It's pastime to secure the border. Listen, this is a catastrophe down here. The battle is for the border.

President Biden wants a supplemental spending bill. It better begin by defending America's. national security. Okay, these are dangerous people who are coming to the country, over 300 known terrorists. How can we be engaged in securing the border of foreign countries if we can't secure our own? Well, Don Jr. should have a conversation with his father who literally made it clear that he does not want Congress to pass any immigration reform, any border security bill, because he wants to run on immigration for the general election.

So like it is amazing that that is the compilation that Don Jr. chose to go with. Jank, what are your thoughts? Yeah, so I love this kind of social media cat fight between the two Donald Trumps. So here's my explanations as to what I think is happening here. Number one, Donald Trump Jr. probably doesn't get much of an audience with his dad. His dad thinks he's a schmuck and so it's obvious that they're not coordinating here at a bare minimum. I don't think, like if his dad told him, shut up and support Mike Johnson.

I guarantee you, Junior will go, I'm so sorry, but Daddy, I'm so sorry. And then go running back into Mike Johnson's arms. But Junior is mainly trying to look cool online. Like, oh, yeah, I can do a meme. I can do these videos. What's Magibase? Oh, they hate Mike Johnson. Yeah, I hate Mike Johnson.

And then Daddy comes along and slaps him around. He's like, okay, Daddy. Watch, you'll see. My guess is that Donald Trump Jr. will turn around on Mike Johnson. If he says anything at all, he'll see the next thing he says will be positive, right? So it goes to show you, they're not talking much in the Trump family. So what does Trump actually want? Well, I mean, Jr. puts in that video about the border, but wait a minute, Mike Johnson killed the border bill for Papa, for Donald Trump senior, right?

So Trump got some sort of deal with Mike Johnson, and he's honoring the deal. And you could tell when Trump talks, if he really is back in the guy or not. In this case, I had the displeasure of listening to a long part of that interview about Mike Johnson. And you can tell Trump's heart's not into it. He's like, yeah, he agreed with me strongly on NATO. And he's got nice ties. He didn't say that part. But it was really kind of a weak defense.

It's obviously they made some sort of deal. And that's why Trump's staying on his side. So what's in the deal? We don't know that yet. But easy to speculate here. One is, you know, he killed a border bill for Trump. That's the number one part of it. Plus he said, oh, of course the election was stolen, sir, of course, sir.

What other lie would you like me to tell, sir? Was there anything else? I don't know. Yeah, there could be some more wheeling and dealing happening behind the scenes. And if that's the case, I'm sure it'll come to light at some point. But I don't know if that deal will withstand the mockery. that Mitch McConnell has made of the Trump crowd today because in a press conference he seemed to be laughing at the America first crowd and celebrating

the passage of that military funding that was passed in the house so let's take a look the demonization of Ukraine began by Tucker Carlson who in my opinion ended up where he should have been all along which is interviewing Putin. And so he had an enormous audience which convinced a lot of rank-and-file Republicans that maybe this was a mistake. I think that former president had sort of mixed views on it. We all felt that border was a complete disaster, myself included. And Chad, you remember covering the phases we went through. First, there was an effort to make law, which requires you to deal with Democrats. And then a number of our members thought

it wasn't good enough. And then our nominee for president didn't seem to want us to do anything at all. That took months to work our way through it. So we ended up doing the supplemental that was originally proposed. So he, you know, took a bit of a victory lap in McConnell fashion, which isn't too exciting. I mean, he's pretty monotone in explaining how it all went down. But he's celebrating the fact that they managed to get that military aid to Ukraine and to Israel and to Taiwan as part of the four bills that were passed with the leadership of Mike Johnson as Speaker of the House.

And so I don't know how Trump is going to feel about that. I don't know if there are going to be other moments where McConnell is going to be bragging about securing that funding. But I know that Trump despises McConnell, and he certainly doesn't like seeing him take a victory lap. So what happens when a turtle and an orangutan get into a cat fight? Well, with the first shots have been fired by a four mission turtle. But is it, am I the batty for in this particular fight siding with the, to some extent, not entirely, the America First crowd?

Oh yeah, look. You get what I'm saying? No, no, I know. Because I think the America first crowd in this particular case, has a point, especially when it comes to some of the funding that's going to be provided to one of the particular countries that we're talking about here. Yeah, so look, there's two different things, guys, politics and policy, right? So politics of it is Mitch McConnell has been serving the defense contractors his entire career.

Exactly. So he doesn't give a damn Ukraine, Russia, national security. No, he's just like, hey, did the check's clear? Good, we're voting in that direction. Hey, all Republicans, remember, I'm the one handing out checks to you guys. We're all voting in that direction. That's why he's still got over 100 votes for the Ukraine funding. Obviously Israel funding, everybody's getting rich.

So he doesn't have to lobby people on that. So that's Mitch McConnell's motives, not pure at all. Donald Trump obviously got some sort of deal and is now, I guess, okay with giving funding to Ukraine, which, by the way, credit to Donald Trump a little bit. So, you know, everybody says he's in the pocket of Russia. But he didn't prevent the Ukraine funding bill. So fair is shown America. Okay?

So but whatever deal Trump has got, he's got that deal. But it's not America first at all. It's not his MAGA base. So neither one is really serving the MAGA base. Exactly, yeah. Right. So now when you get to the policy part of it, there's two different things there too,

which is what does MAGA want, the Republican base, and what do we think is the right policy, right? So MAGA definitely wants America first. America first. And so they might be a little torn on Israel, although these days they're headed very much against Israel and funding Israel any further, right? But on Ukraine, they're super clear. They don't want to fund Ukraine. Correct, yes. So Trump is definitely not with the base on this one. And so that one, that's the most clear out of all the policy things. For us, it gets complicated because we've discussed it many times on the show. Look, we want

America's that have universal health care, paid family, of all these wonderful things, and they keep telling us we don't have money for it. But then they, whenever there's a war and a defense contractors are going to get rich, it immediately gets fun and they immediately find the money. The same time, our hearts go out to the Ukrainians. And on the third hand, how long are we going to go, right? Yeah, what is the exit strategy? Yeah, these are legitimate conversations and debates to have.

And I would actually rather have it with the MAGA base, which are at least genuine about their opinions. I agree. Mitch McConnell or Donald Trump, who are doing it for different forms of corruption. I agree. It doesn't mean that we subscribe to everything the MAGA base believes politically, but in regard to military funding for wars abroad, I do think that they make legitimate points that are worth discussing. What's going to be interesting moving forward is how that maga base responds to the fact that Donald Trump has now provided cover for Mike Johnson, someone who the MAGA base seems to dislike more and more with each passing day, and it's not just

the voters, it's also some Republican members of Congress, including, of course, Marjorie Taylor Green, one of the most vocal opponents of Mike Johnson as a result of his passage of these military funding bills. She has threatened to call for a motion to vacate Mike Johnson from his speakership role. Representatives Thomas Massey and Paul Gosar are the only other Republicans who are currently and openly in support of that motion. And as for right wing media figures, you have Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, and Tucker Carlson, all taking sides against Mike Johnson. So let's take a look at that. They committed sacrilege on Saturday when they brought the Ukrainian flags.

They brought Ukrainian flags, Ukrainian flags on the floor of the house after Johnson and this crowd of Republicans, the 101 and all the 101 will be turfed out. Johnson's got to go. Our entire week, we need, you need to call your district offices and you need to put the fear of God in these people that you've had a belly full of this. The one that really bothered me, where there is no excuse. There is no hiding is the FISA vote. And I'll be honest, the only redemption now is Mike Johnson has to resign. Not from a seat in Congress, just resign a speaker.

Step aside. This has all the hallmarks of elite capture. He's been captured. It didn't take a lot of time. He's not one of us. He's not who he said he was. Weak people just become a host for evil. You know, an open, empty building that evil occupies, possesses even.

And that's exactly what's happening to Mike Johnson. That's like absolutely crazy of what Mike Johnson is doing. But it's not because he's evil. It's because he's weak and therefore susceptible to evil. Okay. Tucker Carlson has kind of lost his mind a little bit. But I have to admit, I am shocked that I'm in agreement. with Charlie Kirk on FISA, I can't believe he spoke out against FISA.

I totally agree with him on that. Well, there's a couple of shocking things happening. One is that the grassroots left and grassroots right are beginning to agree on a bunch of things, including cutting funding to Israel, including taking care of American citizens and not the donors all the time. We're both totally against corruption. We massively disagree on other issues. Okay, so fine, but at least we're beginning to have.

some sort of unity against the corruption of the establishment. Yeah, it is shocking that Charlie Kirk can us agree on anything. But there, there it is for the first time. FISA allows for the warrantless wiretapping or spying in surveillance of American citizens. There's a huge loophole in there that allows for our intelligence community to spy on American civilians without a warrant. And so the reauthorization of that is something that I'm pretty furious about. And apparently so is Charlie Kirk.

Yeah, so let me agree on one other thing. before I get to the second shocking part, which is, look, the Ukrainian flags on the U.S. Congress, yeah, we don't love it, okay? I got nothing but love for Ukraine. On the war itself, I hope Ukraine wins. I hope they drive out Russia. I'm not unclear about it. And it's not because I randomly prefer the Ukrainian ethnicity. It's because Russia invaded them, okay? So, but the flags are a bit much. This is our Congress, not your Congress. But I, you know, I called out some right. wingers online because they were complaining about it. And I said, were you also complaining

about Federman carrying around an Israeli flag like every day in Congress? Or the, or Brian Mask wearing the IDF? Uniform in Congress. Right. A foreign army's uniform. That is unbelievable. So okay, I don't know that they're, you know, I don't know if they're hypocritical on that or not. I haven't heard Ben and Steve Bannon's opinion on it. But okay, interesting note of a tiny agreement there. But the second shocking thing is, okay, Tucker is off the reservation, right? So in a lot of ways. So he can do whatever he likes, right? And him disagreeing with Trump is not that weird.

But Steve Bannon and Charlie Kirk defying Donald Trump. Well, I mean, look, I don't know if they recorded their shows prior to Donald Trump having this exchange where he provided cover for Mike Johnson. And remember, they're not attacking Donald Trump. They're attacking Mike Johnson for passing these bills. For sure, and I hear you, Anna, but Trump, and you're totally right, and they might turn around like Don Jr. We'll see, right? And he, Jr. hasn't turned around yet either on this particular issue. But, but they had to know that Trump was going towards Mike Johnson. He

had Mike Johnson at Mar-a-Lago. Maybe they were trying to influence him and failed, but there's a little bit of a rift there. And I'm, and it's not just the story, guys. I'm seeing it all over social media, right wing populists are beginning to wake up out of their slumber. Like it's almost like somebody snapped them out of their hypnosis. And they're like, I wonder if Trump is right about everything. Or maybe he's also full of crap. Ah, finally, finally, yes. So it's not to say that the entire base we still go to the rallies, they still love them. I don't want you to get too excited. But I'm beginning to see actual independent thought in the right wing, maybe for the first time in my life. I'm starting

I'm starting to see it across the board, regardless of someone's political label, and it is a sight to see. I'm excited to see it because we shouldn't be, you know, worshipping false idols. So for those of you who are religious and, you know, understand what I'm talking about, we shouldn't be worshipping a political figure as if they can do no wrong. it's important to see things with sober eyes and, you know, an open heart, because if the favored politician of yours is actually not carrying out your best interests and you're still supporting them, well, you're supporting someone who's working against your best interests. And it's time that we wake up and stop feeling so wedded to a political tribe or to particular politicians. Yeah. So, I mean, look, we prove it all the time.

We did a petition against Bernie Sanders on minimum wage because Bernie Sanders isn't my uncle. He's a nice guy. probably the most honest guy in politics, but I often disagree with him and he's not the boss of me. So our boss is clear. It's our paying members, keep it real. You guys finance the show. So we work for you guys. But we did that on purpose because we want to serve the average American. We don't want to serve corporate interests. We don't want to serve these politicians. And everybody else kisses their ass, right? And but now even some portion of MAGA is being to say, maybe we shouldn't be in the ass kissing business. Maybe the whole point of this whole freedom thing was to actually be free, including of obvious con men like Donald Trump.

So, and look, and now some of them come back around and going, oh, did you know young Turks are against corruption and they're kind of anti-establishment? Yeah, brother, we've been here for decades. You're a little late to the party, but I'm super happy to have you. Well, we're going to take a break. And when we come back, we have some updates on the ongoing protests on college campuses across the country. Not only are we going to check in on those protests, but we're also going to hear from two sitting senators who want to essentially sick the military against the protesters. That and more coming up, don't miss it. They want to make you drink Starbucks every day from now until forever. All right, back on T. All right, back on to

WIT Jank and Anna with you guys also Nick and two ski 42 both gifted a membership and Anna's Tommy Gun gifted five but my Tommy Gun don't apparently your Tommy Gun do so thank you and blank name wrote in Federman is mid Tulsi Grift could be could very well be all right Casper well we have an update on the protest taking place on college campuses across the country Let's talk about what those updates are. We need President's defeat to do three things. Number one, we need NYPD back on this campus or bring in the national park. Number two, no masks on campus.

This isn't Fallujah, this is Morningside Heights. And number three, the students who behave in this way need to be suspended immediately. There you have it, Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the Anti-Defamation League, calling for the National Guard to squash student protests at Columbia. Now, unfortunately, he also went on to defame the protesters as the head of the Anti-Defamation League by basically lumping them all together and saying the following. Make no mistake, these protests have nothing to do with self-determination for Palestinians. This is about sanitizing Hamas and encouraging terror right here, right now in New York City. It should be unacceptable. Now, as we showed you on this program just yesterday, there are definitely examples of people who are saying, disgusting, deplorable things.

There are people who have said things or chanted things that seem to be in favor of Hamas. But the vast majority of the protesters, including the student groups that have organized these protests, have not supported those statements, have condemned those statements, and are very clear about what their mission is. It is not anti-Semitic. It is in regard to the conduct that Israel is carrying out in the Gaza Strip, which has killed tens of thousands of people, Palestinians who are trapped in that region and that small enclave. Yeah. So first of all, ADL is complicated. It's done some terrific work in the past and not just protecting Jewish Americans, but protecting Muslim Americans, et cetera, including Jonathan

Greenblatt. Having said that, he's cuckoo for cocoa puffs on this one. The National Guard, the National Guard to shut down free speech on campus. By the way, right wing, where are you at? And I know a lot of you are there, but this is the most, like the biggest case of cancel culture I have ever seen in my entire life. You dare to disagree with a foreign government, you will be arrested on campus. It's crazy. So I'm gonna show you guys, not, to our knowledge, not a single student has been arrested for anything related to anti-semitism at all.

This whole thing's a giant manufactured distraction based on absolutely, like not absolutely nothing is that we showed you there are a couple of disturbing videos, but out of thousands thousands of protests on college campuses, you found two sets of randos, one were college students, the others weren't even college students, and nothing that got out of hand to the point where there was an assault or anything like that, and somebody had to be arrested for. Call on the National Guard, but you're gonna see a lot of Republican senators are joining him. And the second dirty trick is guys like Jonah Goldberg going on CNN today and saying,

no, no, no, these are not peace protesters. These are pro terrorists. Oh my God. Come on man, I mean the 1990s called, they want their talking points back. This is a horse crap that no one's buying anymore. I mean, maybe your buddy's on TV all high five over, hey, we called all the Palestinians terrorists. We called everyone in favor of peace terrorists, right? But nobody else is buying your nonsense propaganda.

Yeah, look, this is, this is crazy. If and when there are people who are specifically harassing Jewish students, making them to feel uncomfortable, assaulting anyone, they should immediately be arrested. I have no love for those people, okay, they're total wreckers, they're counterproductive, and they should suffer consequences for anything that they do that could cause harm or is causing harm to Jewish students. So let's get that out of the way. But to make blanket statements like this about all of the student protesters, to basically

refer to them as terrorists, is anti-American. It goes against what our values as Americans are supposed to be. And so you should create a situation in which people who want to demonstrate peacefully have the ability to do so, while those who are causing problems, who are inciting violence, who might be assaulting others, those people should be arrested and should suffer the consequences. But we're not having that nuance conversation. We're having a conversation of completely shutting this down with the use of the National Guard. And as you mentioned, Jank, there are other figures, Republican senators in particular who are in favor of using the National Guard to squash these protests, namely Senator Josh Hawley and Senator Tom Cotton.

Now let's start with Cotton, who seems to have an affinity of using the National Guard against demonstrators who are marching for something he disagrees with. Cotton blamed Democrats for the protests in a social media post Monday morning, writing that the radical anti-Israeli, protesters have always been part of the Democratic Party's base. So really using this for political purposes, for campaigning purposes, and he did take it a step farther, saying that the nascent pogroms at Columbia. Are you serious pogroms for saying that, hey, we should, Colombia should divest from Israel? Yep. What kind of lunatic says this?

Is that not insulting to, like, throughout history, the Jewish people who have been victimized, okay, is that not insulting to them? Are you kidding me? A lot of the protesters are Jewish themselves, because this isn't about Jews versus Muslims. This is about, is this foreign government doing something wrong? Should we back it or should we not back it? So there's a lot of Jewish Americans on the side of the Palestinians saying we should not be backing Israel on this. and I bet you some of their family members went through pogroms in the past

because it's nearly unavoidable in the Jewish community because they've been so abused throughout history. And this clown is using it for some sort of rhetorical point to shut down free speech in America and why? The right wing and the Republicans all pretended that they were all big free speech champions, right? And now all of a sudden the minute you criticize Israel, they'll go, how dare you? Castle them all. Castle them. In fact, arrest them. Arrest them. Because they're because they're pro-terrorists and they're doing pogroms because they dare to disagree with Israel. Insanity. The good news is Anna sent me the tweet. I looked at it as part of the story for Holly.

Oh my God. Everyone in his mentions, all right wingers. No, no, this is dumb. That's not true. Right. Not buying this, you're sending in the National Guard against speech, this is not a right-wing opinion. Biden call for the National Guard to squash these protests. And if you're wondering if the president has the authority to do so, he would. He would have the authority to do it, although I don't think using the National Guard troops to squash student protesters would bode so well for Biden's reelection chances. But nonetheless, under the Insurrection Act, a president can federalize the National

Guard if a state request so to enforce a federal law or to protect civil rights. Now, Cotton also seems to have a fetish with sicking National Guard troops against protesters. If you can recall, there was a huge brouhaha when he penned an op-ed for the New York Times where he called for the National Guard to be used against BLM protesters. But let's move over to Josh Hawley and what he had to say. In a tweet, he wrote, Eisenhower sent the 101st to Little Rock. It's time for Biden to call out the National Guard at our universities to protect Jewish Americans. And one final thing I'll say about this is it's not just that the student protesters are protesting what is being carried out in Gaza. They have a very specific demand.

And that demand at Columbia is that Columbia no longer do business with companies that are tied to Israel. It's part of the divest movement. And the divest movement is something that our politicians do not take kindly to. and in fact have taken it upon themselves both on a local level and a federal level to attempt to pass legislation that punishes people who choose to be part of the divest movement. And I can't believe that it hasn't been challenged all the way to the Supreme Court at this point because our ability to be part of a protest organization based on our political belief should be protected under the First Amendment. There were cases in Texas, for instance, where an educator did not have her contract renewed because she happened to be sympathetic to that movement. But there's something about that particular movement, Jank, that makes people lose their minds.

Oh, I know why. To the point where they're willing to squash the rights of Americans in order to do away with the divest movement, to disempower it. 100%. So I'm now totally in agreement with the divestment movement. I don't think that it's even close anymore. So the reason why people are super triggered by that is because that's the one thing that can work. Because once you put economic pressure, even South Africa, whites had complete power, and they chose to become a minority in that country and lose not all their power,

but an enormous chunk of their power, the great majority of their power, because the boycott movement affected their economic interests. So the reason why they're super mad about BDS and every, like people, anyone that's in the establishment immediately goes, anti-Semitic, and you're like, okay, why? And they're like, that's economic, that could hurt Israel. Yeah, you didn't say that you said nothing that proves that it's anti-Semitic. You're just proving our point that this is all about protecting Israel. And guys, I'm sorry, but this is literal.

There's only one thing that you could say in America that'll get you arrested for your opinion, and that's opposing the Israeli government. So that is literal in the case of these protests, and in the case of the laws that Florida and other states have passed, you won't get arrested for it, but the government will punish you by not giving you a contract or taking your contract away if you dare to disagree, not with our government, but with the Israeli government. I literally have never seen that. The only other thing I've seen that's close is the anti-

protest laws also in Florida and other places where if you protest like oil companies or other corporations people are allowed to run you over okay so this is total insanity now the last thing is so important because no one has been arrested for anti-semitism I want to be clear about that like there's no act of physical act they blocked away of a Jewish student or they attacked a Jewish student or anything like it none all their arrests are because they have protested Israel too much. But I'm saying that very literally, guys, because the protests are for protesting too long in a certain area or in the wrong area. These are all rules that they came

up with recently. Colombia just said, oh, hurry up and pass laws. They got new rules. Say, oh, that's it. If you protest too long or in the wrong place, we can drive you off a campus, suspend you and do all those things. And when did they do that? I mean, there's been protests at Columbia for decades. I mean, it is one of the hubs of protests. But the minute there was protests against Israel, all of a sudden, new rules, and you're protesting Israel too long. You're now under arrest in America for protesting a foreign government too long.

And did you get that sense at all from mainstream media? Because whenever I turn on cable news, they're like anti-Semitism, the students are all against the Jews. I can't believe it. And they were arrested. It makes it sound like they were arrested for anti-sevigism. Well, that's not even remotely true. And so that's the state of America as we have it right now.

And Trita Parsi, last thing, made a good point on online. He said, look, not only is Netanyahu, the right-wing government of Israel, destroying their democracy, but now it's being to destroy our democracy. As both Republicans and ADL, which generally is liberal organization, good organization, all of a sudden, the left and right of the establishment have come together to say there is one golden rule. You cannot protest Israel. If you do, you're gonna be in a world of trouble.

And that is the least democratic thing you can do. All right, let's take a break. When we come back, we have some updates on the classified documents trial that Trump is facing. We also have some updates on the witness testimony in the hush money case that Trump is also facing. So that and more coming up, don't miss it. Documents.

All right, back on TYT, Jank, Anna, Dirk Fremuth, Brandon Kiyadi, Aaron Sussburn, Lyle, so much nope. All of them hit the join button below. Love it, Gabby Mathis gifted five memberships. You're awesome, Gabby. Anna. Well, let's check in on the various trials that Donald Trump is facing. Starting with the classified documents case, where a bunch of documents were recently released to the public.

Plasmic Echo, that's how the investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents is identified, and that's according to newly released court. filings that the judge overseeing the case has allowed for the release of. Now, we also learned through the release of these documents that Trump allegedly tried to persuade a co-defendant to lie to the FBI by promising to pardon him once he's president again following the 2024 presidential election. Number one, I mean, the confidence is pretty incredible, right? to just assume you're going to win, but also telling someone your co-defendant to lie.

Not a good idea. Now, first, here's more info on how the court records came to be, how they were made public in the first place. As I mentioned, the revelations came in the form of a new batch of exhibits that were part of special counsel Jack Smith's response to a Trump motion all the way back in January. The records had initially been attached as sealed exhibits to a motion. Trump's lawyers had filed in January asking for additional discovery evidence from the government. But the judge, Aline Cannon, made the exhibits public after ruling two weeks ago that

prosecutors could remove from them the names of several potential witnesses to protect their identities and safety. I took a look at those documents and they are very much redacted. Names are absolutely taken out of it. And just to give you some more information about the motion from Trump's lawyers back in January. It was an attempt by Trump's lawyers to persuade the judge to grant them access to communications between prosecutors working on the case and officials at the archives and at national security and intelligence agencies. Now with that said, the filings or the filing reveals Jack Smith had cooperation from a senior Trump aide including post presidency. And that's really the person that we're going to be

focusing on for the purposes of this story, because that Trump aide listed as person 16 disclose some really interesting details about what was going on in Trump world behind the scenes as it pertains to the classified documents. Jenk. Yeah, I think person 16 could change the entire dynamic of this race. Look, I don't know who it is yet, but Trump does based on a very clear description of who he was interacting with and when he was interacting with them. And knowing Trump, he'll start blabbing in this, you know, countdown three, two, one. But there's two reasons why person 16 is really important.

That's what we're going to discuss right now. So let's talk about what person 16 said during interviews with the investigators for this case. So number one, he was apparently terrified to have his interview recorded. Person 16 refused recording of the interview, despite being advised that not recording the interview, would be anomalous compared to other witness interviews. Person 16 accepted that risk, stating having the interview recorded was a far bigger risk for him in the Trump world. So this individual was terrified of recording this interview specifically because of ramifications coming from the Trump world. Trump apparently dangled a pardon when it came to some of the defendants in this case, person 16, and this is from the filing itself.

Person 16 has not spoken to NADA, meaning the co-defendant in this case, NADA was an employee of Donald Trump's at Mar-Lago, who was tasked with basically hiding the files, the classified documents. He's his bag man. Exactly. So again, person 16 has not spoken to NADA since the White House and did not know him. Person 16 was aware that Noda left the U.S. Navy to join the Trump administration, 45 office. NADA was told by the former president of the United States as people that the investigation was not going anywhere, that it was politically motivated and much ado about nothing. Nata was also told that even if he gets charged with lying to the FBI, former president of the United States will pardon him in 2024.

Yeah, so this is one of the big ones. So if they can actually show that in court that he told Nata, that's okay, lie to the FBI, I'll pardon you when I get back into office. was, oh, that's devastating. So I don't, could a MAGA guy on the jury even then go, I don't care, even though that's the most obvious witness tampering of all time and encouraging someone to lie to the police, etc. I guess a MAGA guy could throw a monkey wrench and say, but any rational jury would think that that evidence was devastating.

He's obviously trying to keep him from telling the truth about what actually happened. which was that he wanted to keep the documents. There's a couple more devastating parts of persons. Well, a little more context because we've actually reported on NADA earlier. And NADA is the guy who in the very beginning of this classified documents case had a Trump appointed attorney. And that attorney was apparently leading NADA astray. And at that point NADA realizes, okay, I better get rid of this lawyer and hire my own attorney. No, not Noda.

It wasn't NADA. No, NADA is still staying with Trump. It was a NADA associate, a friend of Nottas, a really good friend of his that flipped on Nata and Trump. Oh, okay, apologies. If Nata flips, Trump is in a world of trouble. Okay, I was gonna say, I thought it was Nata, which is why I thought Trump isn't a world of trouble. But okay, fair enough, fair enough, that was the other guy. Okay, so erase that from your memory.

Let's go to the rest, let's go to the rest of this document or this filing and what we've learned from it. So Guardian reporter Hugo Lowell has more from the special counsel's filing. He writes that person 16 warned Trump, he could be criminally charged if he didn't return documents, even without grand jury subpoena. Whatever you have, give everything back. Let them come here and get everything, meaning the classified documents. Don't give them a noble reason to indict you because they will. And in fact, they did.

I mean, this this really emphasizes a point that drives me crazy, if Trump had just given the classified documents back and he had many opportunities to do so, Mar-a-Lago would not have been raided, there would be no reason to indict him, even though he wrongly took the classified documents home with him from the White House, they would have let him go, as long as he returned the documents. But he kept refusing to do so, then he lied about how he allegedly returned all the documents. when he had not returned all the documents. I mean, he is his own worst enemy.

Donald Trump is his own worst enemy, but there's more. Yeah, actually, before you go to the more, that's another giant thing here. A year before the raid. So like sometimes the MAGA guys, because they listen to the right wing media, have gotten tricked into believing that like, golly, gee, they raided him out of nowhere. And you know, it's the deep state that are targeting him. No, they're like, please, please, we don't want any trouble. Just please return the national secrets.

You took top secret information. We can't have it floating around in the Mar-a-Lago bathroom. And they plead with him for a whole year. And that's his top associates right there saying, we told Trump, please give it back. Then he tells the kids, tell your dad to give it back. What is he doing? And those guys can't ever get it through their thick heads.

Trump is so corrupt that they're like, I don't understand why he has it. My theory all along has been he had it because he wanted to sell it. Those are the most valuable documents in the country. So there's more. Person 16 told the FBI that Trump reacted to his warning with a weird you're the man type of response and left the impression that he would, in fact, return the materials to the archives. Their conversation, though, was interrupted when a Mar-a-Lago club member and a much younger woman walked up, Person 16 recalled, and asked to have a photo taken

with Trump. Now finally, the only other thing that I came across that I thought was kind of interesting as part of these filings was this. Person 16 also suggested that some of Trump's children had been enlisted in the task of persuading him to return the presidential records to the archives. The person recounted to the FBI that one of the children was told, quote, there are issues with the boxes. They belong to the government. Talk to your dad about giving them back, it's not worth the aggravation. And I'm unclear as to whether his children actually weighed in on this and tried to persuade Donald Trump to return the classified documents. What I do know is there have been cases behind the scenes where people like Don Jr.

for instance tried to convince Trump to do the right thing. Like on January 6th, as the riots were underway, he reached out to his father and asked him to step in to stop the riots from happening. And so it's not far-fetched that his kids might try to give him good advice. I'm just unclear as to whether that actually was carried out. Yeah, and people are wondering why the kids aren't at any other trials. Well, first of all, to be fair to the kids, there's so many trials. They'd have to stop their whole lives to go trial hopping, but also they're implicated in some of these trials. So it's kind of awkward for them. But it's funny because it's not like Donald Trump Jr. isn't unhinged or that Ivanka and Jared Kushner are good people.

But at least apparently Trump insiders view them as non-insane as opposed to Donald Trump. So you're like, all right, I got to go talk to Don or Ivanka or about making sure this idiot doesn't steal national secrets for no reason. Or at least they think no reason. All right, last thing about person 16 is, I don't know if it's Mark Meadows, his last chief of staff. But it could be. Whoever it is is not a Mara Lago person because they barely know Nauta. So the reason I say that is because the Mara Lago people are Trump's people. They're the most core loyal people to them.

They were randos that Trump picked up out of nowhere and, you know, and they've been with him for decades, et cetera. But the people that come in from the White House are politicians and stuff like that. And Mark Meadows, of course, used to be a very right-wing congressperson. And Mark Meadows has been so conspicuously absent for the last couple of years. And then he got charged in Fulton County. He's like, whoa, what the hell is going on in a way that made it appear that he already had a deal with federal prosecutors. So he was like, why am I getting charged here in Atlanta?

Exactly. And so if it's Mark Meadows and he actually spills all the beans, because if he's cooperating with prosecutors, he's cooperating, right? And we saw in the hush money trial, which we were going to get to later in the. show with David Pecker, who was a great friends with Donald Trump. Once you turn, your turn, you got to give the prosecutor's actual truth. So if it's Meadows and, and he pinpoints all this lawbreaking and the fact that they took the boxes from the White House, knew they had him, knew the FBI wanted him, and still wouldn't give it back, well, that's called guilty. Well, there was some important testimony in a different case involving Donald Trump.

And this has to do with the hush money payments and the falsified documents, which Trump is facing charges for. So when we come back from the break, we'll hear about the testimony given by David Pecker, who used to be the head of the National Enquirer, which did the catch and kill stories. I'll give you what he said and more when we come back.