The Young Turks - NEW Evidence In Alleged Jamal Khashoggi Slaying And Trump's Non-Action During Hurricane Michael

Episode Date: October 13, 2018

Turkish officials are saying they have video AND audio evidence of Jamal Khashoggi's interrogation, torture, and murder. During Hurricane Michael Trump was busy meeting with Kanye and speaking at rall...ies instead of going to aide the people in the hurricane's path. Get exclusive access to our best content. http://tyt.com/GETACCESS Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Yo, what the hell is this? Drop it. All right, Jake Uger, look at this power panel. Anna Kusperian, Jake Choi, joins us. Maytha Alhassen as well.
Starting point is 00:00:41 And Matha, you guys know, Jake, let's talk for a second. You're on ABC's comedy, Single Parents. That's super cool that you're an actor and all that stuff, but I'm obsessed that you're a professional basketball player in South Korea, but you also played here? Where did you play here? In college? Yeah, New York. In New York.
Starting point is 00:01:02 Played for Brooklyn College for a year. And then I failed off because I was a gym rat. And then I went to South Korea and I was like, let me try there. And yeah, I ended up playing university basketball there for the top university basically in Korea. And then, yeah, I played semi-pro for a few years. That's pretty badass. What position?
Starting point is 00:01:21 I was a combo guard because I like to shoot. I like to shoot too. There's gonna be a lot of shooting on today's show. Okay, also into boxing yoga, which I, this is why I'm getting from your bio. Okay, that's right, that's right. Filled with lies, you've never done yoga your whole life? No, I can do yoga. I feel like if you're an actor, you have to at least say you do it.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yes, right? Especially in L.A. That's part of the agency conversation. Absolutely. Somebody's going to pick you up. Yeah, when you're moving from New York to L.A. It's how you get initiated into LA gang culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Hiking at Runyon Canyon and then yoga. Exactly. That's right. All right, super lasting. When is single parents on, on ABC? Wednesdays at 9.30 Eastern time, 8.30 central time. All right, excellent. Okay, so fun power panels for you guys, this one, the one coming up.
Starting point is 00:02:18 Ida Rodriguez will join us, and Matt Walsh is going to join us from Veep. He's Mike McClintock from Veep if you watch that. He's phenomenal, nominated for two Emmys. Okay, now lots of fun and anger in today's show. The story, I mean, look, all the stories get me animated, but Trump's disastrous handling of the latest hurricane is literally a disaster. But the cheating that the Republicans are doing in Georgia is so brazen, it's unbelievable. So wait till you get a load of that story.
Starting point is 00:02:53 All right, so Anna, you want to take it away? Yeah, let's get the positive. No, no, I got it. Yeah, okay. So I see you, Jesus. Go straight to me as soon as I start pointing. Okay, anyway, let's move on. Let's start talking about some murder journalists, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We are still uncertain as to the whereabouts of a Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi, who was also a Saudi disson. who had self-exiled here to the United States out of an abundance of caution. He had been critical of the Saudi royals and was worried about his safety, which is why he came here to the United States. Now he has gone missing after he went to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey. He had went there to receive a document necessary to marry his Turkish fiancé, and he never came out of the building.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Now, there is some indication that he was either abducted or based on what the Turkish government is saying, killed by Saudi authorities who had arrived on a chartered flights following his arrival to the consulate. Now, the Turkish investigators are saying that they have evidence that he was murdered. No one has seen that evidence yet. The Turkish investigators have been in contact with U.S. intelligence officials. It's unclear whether those intelligence officials have seen this evidence. But according to what we know so far, the recordings show that a Saudi security team detained
Starting point is 00:04:26 Khashoggi in the consulate after he walked in October 2nd to obtain this official document before his upcoming wedding, then killed him and dismembered his body. The individual who spoke on the condition of anonymity said that the voice recording from inside the embassy lays out what happened to Jamal after he entered. You can hear his voice and the voices of men speaking Arabic. You can hear how he was interrogated, tortured, and then murdered. And the same individual also says that you can hear the Saudi officials beating him in the recording.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Now, Turkish officials are also wary of releasing these recordings because they fear that it could divulge how the Turks spy on foreign entities in their country, although I think is pretty clear already, right? Yeah, yeah, I don't think there's much confusion about that. Yeah, I remember thinking, okay, look, I get it that you guys see him on video going into the embassy and you've checked the video in the back and the front and you never see him coming out. I get that.
Starting point is 00:05:29 How do you know they brought a bone saw? How do you know that they dismembered him? And so, of course, they don't want to say it in the beginning, but it's super obvious. And it's not just the Saudis, and it's not just the Turks. My yes is most of the host countries tap most of the embassies that are in their respective countries. So be forewarned, okay, and so the Turks apparently had a way of, they say not only audio but video recordings inside the consulate of Saudi Arabia, so they seem to have the goods.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Right, so this is all information that we shared with you in previous shows where we talked about this very story, but there are updates that I want to get into. So first off, what is the reaction from businesses and the media here in the United States? Well, for one, Trump has been very clear in stating that he will continue the sale of US weapons to the Saudis, regardless of what happened to Khashoggi. We'll show you that video in just a second. But more importantly, we now have members of the media and other individuals who are boycotting certain events in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:06:40 One of those events is the future investment initiative, and it's supposed to take place in Riyadh. But there are a number of people who have now said, no, we're not going. We're not interested in that. Andrew Ross Sorkin, who is one of the anchors on CNBC, will not go. And also the editor-in-chief for the economist is no longer going to go. But there is one person who's going to go, and that's Steve Mnuchin, who is the Treasury Secretary here in the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I'm gonna skip ahead and go to video two. Let's hear what he has to say. We are concerned about what is the status of Mr. Khashoggi. I am planning on going at this point. If more information comes out and changes, we could look at that, but I am planning on going. So he's planning on going. We don't have enough information yet, so. I don't know if people are going to think this is overly broad, but for a lot of the Gulf countries
Starting point is 00:07:37 that are dictatorships, I've said for a long, long time, I think it's crazy to go, ever. And certainly for Saudi Arabia, their dictatorship, and they have absurd laws that they can and do enforce on you in weird ways from time to time. We've covered dozens of stories, people holding hands or kissing in public or appearing to be a same-sex couple, whatever. And they're like, okay, that's it, you're in prison for 13 years. What? No, you're crazy to go to those countries.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I'm keeping it real. I'm not going, I've never gone, I'm not gonna go until they get a government that represents their own people and that is liberal democracy. And now, if you're a reporter, you ought to have your head examine going to Saudi Arabia. And look at what they just did to this columnist. Well, real quick, if you guys are worried that the U.S. is not going to take enough action, Trump did say something, and I want to make sure we're fair to him and we give him his exact quote, he says, quote, we're looking at it very strongly.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Oh, wow, I didn't know you're looking at it. That's true. And he said it's not a big deal. What did he say? He said we're not not concerned. It was a double negative, which means there was no assertion. But I think there's so many things swirling. One is that to your comment, unfortunately, there is a protected elite class of Americans who don't
Starting point is 00:09:04 get to experience that kind of repression when they enter into the country. I mean, there's a ban on alcohol and embassies carry alcohol in the country. So there are little things like that, but when you're talking about the symbolic consent to what the Saudi government is doing by showing up to actually a big deal meeting. This investment fund meeting has been designed because, guess what, the Saudi government is running out of money. They have really low oil projections to the point where they are going to start taxing their citizens.
Starting point is 00:09:35 And this is a big deal because the Saudi state has radical unemployment, which a lot of people don't know about. So not everybody's rolling in wealth. And so they're looking for opportunities from the outside to get investment inside. And I mean, there's so much with this story that I want to talk about. One is that it's interesting that there is focus on Khashoggi, which I love. I love the fact that the West is putting pressure on our president, politicians are putting pressure on our system to withdraw from more arms deals that go into our disastrous war
Starting point is 00:10:11 in Yemen. Can I ask you a question? Saudi's disastrous war in Yemen that we support through refueling and intelligence. So, Jank and I spoke about that a little bit yesterday, and really all we could really do at that point was speculate as to why, because we've had a long history of bad behavior from the Saudis, and it seems as though no one's been willing to hold their feet to the fire until now? Why do you think that is? Well, I think a couple of things. One is that the U.S. doesn't take kindly to repression of journalists. I mean, we have multiple movies that have
Starting point is 00:10:41 just come out in the last couple of years about Nixon silencing and censoring the post. We have the spotlight story. So we have this, whether or not it's absolutely true, this notion of ourselves as protecting freedom of speech, right? So when we point to that, it means something. Hachukshu is a very interesting story, what his family, where he comes from, and what his family represents in the global market. And maybe perhaps we can go into that at another point, because it's a much longer story. But I think that also the murder of one person is something that is tangible to people. Stalin said that killing one person is a tragedy, killing millions of people is a statistic.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Interesting. So that's how people can understand. understand this story. They can't understand millions of people who are at jeopardy of a famine in Yemen. They can't understand the hundreds of thousands of people that are killed in Syria. It's too much to wrap your brain around and for you to extend a certain kind of empathy because you don't see it in your everyday life. So the killing of one person just hits home. And that sort of story is the story that broke World War I. You know, the Archduke, Franz Ferdinand was assassinated in Sarajevo. And some,
Starting point is 00:11:58 Historians speculated that that was the reason for the start of World War I. Interesting. Yeah, so look, whenever it's someone who's in the elite, it makes a much bigger difference. Let's keep it real. He was part of the Saudi elite and in their mind betrayed them by actually being honest about them. And here, he's a Washington Post columnist. So that counts a thousand times more than a child in Yemen.
Starting point is 00:12:22 It's horrible, but that's the way that it works. It shouldn't work that way. But if you're writing for the Washington Post, it's a lot more personal for you. And that's partly why we're on that warpath. And I'm just really curious how much he means if this is a terrible thing. We're going to look into it. I feel like oftentimes when it says that, it's kind of, it's very empty. When Trump says that?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, when Trump says that. Yeah, I can see why you think that. Right? Right. I mean, and look, to be, to provide evidence for why someone would be concerned. about whether or not Trump really cares. I mean, when he was talking about this in front of the press just yesterday, he mentioned the citizenship status of this journalist, like, basically trying to make a point about
Starting point is 00:13:08 how this isn't like a U.S. citizen, he's not a U.S. citizen, right? Like, he's, yeah, he's a resident. I mean, he was very, first of all, you should know that before speaking to the press. You're the president of the United States. But more importantly, what does his citizenship status matter? I mean, he was here in the United States, he was working for the Washington, And he was targeted specifically because he's been critical to the Saudi royals, who Trump has been, you know, very complimentary toward and has, you know, gone to great lengths to do, you know, positive PR for. So I don't know. I don't think that he really cares that much. He also does have a long history with the Khashoggi family. So this is putting him in really sticky waters, but not that Trump is a loyal person. He's loyal to the point of his own personal interests being protected.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And I'm just curious to really see how this pans out because it seems like a gross political miscalculation on the part of NBS. I don't understand why doing it in another country, a country that you're also in really dirty waters with. There's a huge proxy war going on, and if folks don't know, I'm sure we've talked about it on this show multiple times, but there is this Turkish-Katari alliance that, so Saudi Arabia and Egypt and other Gulf countries are in opposition with. And sometimes it's kind of a cold war.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And sometimes things get flared and reflared. And for this to happen on Turkish soil, I don't know how this is not going to embroil into something massive. Yeah. And look, that's because Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince is totally reckless. I mean, he kidnapped a foreign leader, the leader of Lebanon. That's insanity when that guy. By the way, Manuchin, I mean, we're the U.S., unlikely that there.
Starting point is 00:14:56 he's going to kidnap our Treasury Secretary. But it's not unprecedented. He's kidnapped the leader of a country before. Look, we're his ally. So again, it's almost no chance of it. But you're playing with your life by, you know, in dealing with this guy at all. And goes to another way of showing his recklessness, which is on the financial grounds. So they're in massive financial trouble.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Part of the reason that he kidnapped and imprisoned the other Saudi royals on total BS charges of corruption, I mean, the charges might be real, but he's even more corrupt, right? So it's disingenuous in that sense. In the middle of that, he bought a $500 million yacht for himself. Sounds like a good investment. Sounds like a Trump investment. Yeah, if you're worried about, oh my God, the Saudi finances are in trouble, you don't buy a half a billion dollar yacht.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And the fact that the U.S. did so much propaganda on his behalf, including a lot of the mainstream press, now all of a sudden come to find out, he kills members of the press, and they're not, oops, right? Well, you should have thought of that before you were doing all that positive press. I remember on this show, we were saying, why is CBS 60 Minutes and all these other outlets, you know, saying this guy some sort of reformer, we already knew he kidnapped a foreign leader. We already knew he was trying to foment a civil war within the Palestinian terrorism. territories, and in Lebanon, we knew what an out of control dictator he was before, but
Starting point is 00:16:26 yet he was feeded, why? Because if you pay enough money in Washington, you're gonna get a lot of great propaganda, no matter what you do, until you come for the guys who were giving you the propaganda. Right, and just a quick note on that. I mean, the American press doesn't care about what Saudi Arabia wants to do to Palestinian territories. We already know how the US press covers what happens to Palestinians living in Palestinian territories.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah, and I should know, you know, I mentioned the Gulf countries. To be fair, just yesterday we covered the story of Israel imprisoning people who don't agree with Netanyahu, so, or have a, the wrong opinion on the BDS movement, so you want to boycott Israel, et cetera. And the woman, the 22 year old from Florida, an American citizen, she doesn't even believe in that. She's going to study at Hebrew University, they're like, yeah, don't care, and she's been in prison for over a week being detained because she has the temerity to disagree with the right-wing government
Starting point is 00:17:22 of Israel. So unfortunately, this authoritarian streak is growing worldwide, and it is deeply disturbing. We gotta take a quick break, but when we come back, we will give you an update on Hurricane Michael and also Trump's insane non-reaction to it. So come right back, we'll give you that and more. All right, back on the young Turks. Let me read a couple of comments for you guys. I'm going to start with, we're going to go just members right now.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Start with Cossack writing in. As a trained historian, I just want to say that TYT is certainly an objective news source despite their commentary. You can have a humanistic perspective and still be objective. Objective morality is a thing that exists despite what the Christian right says. Thank you. Appreciate it. And that is what we try very hard to do here.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Give you the facts and then our commentary. I just want to know, are you a real historian or are you like a Newt Gingrich type of historians? Don't insult the guy like that. No, I'm kidding. I know you're, I would never try to insult you. I just want to make a New Gingrich joke. Are you also an amateur paleontologist?
Starting point is 00:18:35 Okay. Steve Manky writes in, it really is amazing what the West allows Saudi Arabia to get away with, without consequence, makes a mockery of our government every time they bring up human, right concerns anywhere else in the world. Great point, 6,600 civilians have been killed in Yemen. Yeah. And we let him get away with that. You know, you get somebody in the elite, then it's a different problem. But, and Trump is such a weird liar. He just, so he's like, we, you know, yesterday we didn't, we should have called him out on this. We have 110 billion dollars of arms deals with Saudi Arabia. It turns out it's four billion. He should, he just can't help
Starting point is 00:19:15 himself. And by the way, it is definitely bipartisan. That we've been saying all along. The reality is Obama had $96 billion worth of arms deals with Saudi Arabia. So what we have let the Saudis get away with under Democratic and Republican presidents is outrageous. And one last one, Da Verdi writes in, it's a slippery slope to chastised Cruz's advisor Omri Saren for defending war criminals. Okay, that's from yesterday's show. Jenk, us lawyers understand the secret right to have your day in court and to challenge the state's evidence to avoid any arbitrary prosecution. Now that's true, but remember Omri Serran, who's one of the top national security advisors
Starting point is 00:19:57 for Ted Cruz, is not a lawyer, he's a lobbyist, and he didn't have to represent them, and it's not a nonprofit case, he's not court appointed, he chose to represent a mass murderer for money. So yeah, I get to criticize that. By the way, you know, when you have these celebrity lawyers and sometimes they're wonderful, like Johnny Cochran had a great career before OJ, but okay. But the very first time I was ever on television. I said the same thing then about him and Dershowitz.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I was at a minimum right about Dershowitz, okay, which is that nobody may you represent OJ, you weren't a court appointed lawyer, you know, and there was a lot of money and fame that came along with that. In Omri's case, it's not even, has nothing new of the law, he was a lobbyist who signed up to represent dictators. And Ted Cruz apparently thinks that that's a wonderful thing because he hired him. And God knows what he's going to advise him. So that was a great story by Ken Clippenstein, which you should check out on TYT Investigates.
Starting point is 00:20:56 All right, what's next, Dana? All right. Hurricane Michael has led to quite a bit of devastation in Florida's panhandle and also in Virginia. In fact, we are now getting updated numbers in regard to the death toll. But I do want to warn you that the medical examiners in the area do expect the numbers to increase. So according to what we know as of now, Hurricane Michael's death toll has risen to 13, 13 people have died.
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Starting point is 00:22:14 It's a disaster zone down here. He refused to give any updates regarding the death toll numbers. But again, as we know, the official count is 13 at the moment. Now, at least 1.5 million customers were without electricity in states stretching from Florida to Virginia. Much of the coast of the Florida panhandle, including Mexico Beach and Panama City, was devastated. The area is dotted with small rural communities, some of them among the poorest in the state. Now, one of the things that I've been curious about is the response from the federal government. Now, as we know, the federal government was not very responsive when it came to Puerto Rico,
Starting point is 00:22:56 but was pretty good when it came to responding to storm victims in Texas and in Florida. And this is last year. But it turns out that in the case of Hurricane Michael, people in the area who have been devastated by this have not been reached out to. No one has talked to them from FEMA. Here's one quote, Carl Jones, Carl Jones, who's 43, said that he had seen no hint of government response as of Thursday night. In fact, he said, only thing is the police came and said, you've got to be inside at nightfall.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But Trump's statements would have you believe that he's doing a lot. In fact, he was quoted as saying, we had it under great control because FEMA and everything else, we had White House, we had on the plane on Air Force One, I was totally monitoring, so I went in and made the speech and everybody was happy. Okay. So he's been getting a lot of criticism because just a few hours after the storm hit land, he decided to rally at Erie, Pennsylvania. And so after the critics chimed in on this, Trump decided.
Starting point is 00:24:03 to share his views when he called into Fox and Friends. Here's what he had to say. You know, you took some heat yesterday, Mr. President, for going ahead with your Pennsylvania rally last night. Well, I think really when I explained it, there was no heat. I really had very little heat, other than the natural haters of which there are obviously some. But, you know, we had thousands of people standing. online. It's a great thing that's happening. It's a great movement in our country. I go make a
Starting point is 00:24:38 speech in the 12,000 seat auditorium, and people start lining up two days early. I mean, literally, they bring tents, and we had thousands of people lined up by the time I had to make a decision. So my decision was, do I want to tell people that were waiting 10 and 12 hours already, that I'm not coming, and I just thought it would be. And we're talking about thousands of people. And you saw that last night, when the auditorium, which held about 12,000 people, it was full, and we had 20 or 25,000 people outside watching screens. And we're talking about thousands and thousands of people. Okay, please stop talking.
Starting point is 00:25:16 At least that was the sense I got. By the way, look, his decision to rally as people were being devastated by this storm is one thing. But here's your opportunity to speak out and say something, at least try to comfort the people who are dealing with this right now. But instead, he used it as an opportunity to continue talking about his popularity and also lie about the numbers. Look, I don't, it doesn't even matter. He says that there was 12,000 people there.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That arena only holds 9,000 people. And then he says that people were lined up for two days straight. That's not true. People started lining up Wednesday morning 12 hours before the event. But nonetheless, he had been very, very critical of Obama, because Obama, because Obama, participated in a concert back in 2012 with Bruce Springsteen and Jay-Z. And so Trump was arguing, oh, Hurricane Sandy just happened, can you believe what Obama's doing? He's out there campaigning right now, he shouldn't be doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Here's what his tweet said, this is on November 6th, 2012. Yesterday, Obama campaigned with Jay-Z and Springsteen, while Hurricane Sandy victims across New York and New Jersey are still decimated by Sandy, wrong. Well, you made a decision to continue on with this rally. just a few hours after Hurricane Michael hit. And Hurricane Sandy made landfall October 29th, 2012. Obama suspended his campaign at that time, so did Mitt Romney to his credit. And then this concert with Bruce Springsteen and Jay-Z happened on November 5th.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So I mean, I don't know, his tweets aren't really aging well. Yeah, I mean, I'll do the math for you, that's a full week later. Meanwhile, this guy didn't even wait seven hours and he's the president. And he's like, we had the White House, we had great, what are he talking about? So far it appears a terrible response. Thirteen people dead, all those people without cell phone service, without food, water. And by the way, right now a lot of people are rummaging through the stores to get food and water, depending on the community that's being called resourceful or looting.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So kind of depends on where you're from. Look at these pictures, Jesus, does it look like they were, I mean, look, it's mother nature. And there's nothing you could do when the storm hits, but there's a lot you can do preparing for the storm and after the storm. And the question is, did they do the proper amount of preparation? Look, when it comes to FEMA, that's an open question, and we'll see how the rest of the government responded. Does anyone think that Donald Trump did enough preparation as the president, or does he just love
Starting point is 00:27:54 going to rallies? It's fun, he doesn't want to cancel it. They cheer for him and it's so much, that's like one of the fun parts of the job. Now I gotta cancel it, I don't wanna do that. But really, to be fair, if he didn't cancel it, do you think he would have been doing a lot of homework anyway? Do you think he would have been in a command center like, hey, how we're getting the food down there?
Starting point is 00:28:15 How are we evacuating people, et cetera? No, he wouldn't have done any of that stuff anyway. He hates homework. Right, right. Jenk, are you one of his natural haters? Is that what's happening? I'm on a show with his natural haters. No, I mean, he's the president of the United States.
Starting point is 00:28:32 He's not Justin Bieber. And Justin Bieber, for the record, probably gets way more people lining up for much longer. What really frightened- And probably is done more for Florida. Exactly. I mean, I think what somebody should have done in his cabinet is lie to him and tell him that it could maybe affect Mar-a-Lago and then maybe there would have been some sort of response from him.
Starting point is 00:28:52 9,000 people at a rally versus 1.5 million people without electricity, and we don't even know the exact numbers around food shortages and other fallout that's going to happen from this. So the thing that's most alarming to me is that we have an administration of climate deniers, and there is absolutely little preparation, and that's another conversation we can have, but there's even less response. And for me, like, okay, I really don't want you to deny climate change, but please don't neglect the preparation and the post game around it either, because it's gonna, this is gonna only increase exponentially for years to come. Yes, I love that you brought that up. And it's a very dangerous cocktail because not only
Starting point is 00:29:39 do they deny climate change and promote policies that further exacerbate these issues and these extreme weather conditions, but remember, important government programs like FEMA are funded through what? Through taxpayer money, right? And right now, we've just cut tax revenue because, hey, the wealthy need more tax cuts. We need to cut the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. And then when you take the effective tax rate into account, it's even less than that. And so, I mean, if we're not going to be able to fund the government organizations that help
Starting point is 00:30:13 with relief efforts, and we're also going to ignore the very serious issue of climate change, This is gonna get worse. Every year it's gonna get worse. And we've noticed that these hurricanes are happening with more frequency. They're happening with more severity. And when the whole situation happened with Hurricane Maria and Puerto Rico and continues to happen, by the way, I think that there was this thought among some of Trump's base that, well, those are the others, even though they're US citizens as part of the United States, right?
Starting point is 00:30:47 But this is an example of people in Florida, people in parts of the country that voted for Trump being neglected and ignored, okay? He doesn't care who you are, where you're from. All he cares about is himself, and he proves that time and time again. Right, just to piggyback on that. There's no empathy from Trump, 45, and he's supposed to be the leader of the free world. And it just kind of reminds me of when he was in Puerto Rico handing out paper towels and And he was kind of like shooting it like a basketball.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah. Like, what are he thinking? I don't- Well, they were big, beautiful towels. You're right. Beautiful soft towels. Soft, yeah. They were in plastic. How would you know?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Great absorption. Yeah. He's such a maniac. Okay, so let me build off of that. So, Administrator for FEMA, Mr. Long said, there's a lesson here about building codes. Yeah. So there's a reason why you need regulations. And if you build houses and buildings next to the law.
Starting point is 00:31:45 water in Florida, which is constantly hit by hurricanes, that is why you need regulation. So next time you hear a Republican go, go, we're just going to deregulate. Think about what happened in the panhandle just now, right? And the former mayor Tom Bailey in that area said the mother of all bombs doesn't do any more damage than this. That is literally true, because that only hits a certain area, whereas this hit a wide swath of Florida, the Carolina's got hit again, Virginia, and obviously you see the devastation, the pictures and the videos, and yes, the one bomb could not possibly do that.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Mother Nature is nothing to mess with. But we have mess with her, and now she's messing back. And so it is climate change. So when you see those pictures, that's what it is. It's not 50 years from now, it's not 100 years from now. It's not binary, it doesn't just happen overnight, it happens gradually. the storms get worse and worse and more frequent. So even by September 19th, we had had 30% more storms than average in the Western Pacific
Starting point is 00:32:55 and Atlantic. And then we had several other major storms and then Hurricane Michael hit. So this is way more than average. And so climate change, a lot of times people feel like, oh, okay, I got to throw away my plastic bottle, and it's going to happen 100 years from now. and it's happening to some island nation and their water is rising and it's something in the North Pole, but it doesn't affect me. No, these people died right now certainly because of climate change.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And so I'm not saying that any one hurricane you can tell is directly connected and it's not that hurricanes did not exist before. But the whole point of what all of the world scientists told you, and they were right, it's called science, is that the weather was going to get more extreme. We're gonna have more storms and they were gonna be more forceful. That is exactly what has happened. So that story that you mentioned Anna about Sarah Radney, she's 11 years old. I mean, look, 13 people died so far and a lot of people we don't know there might be
Starting point is 00:33:57 a lot more deaths because we can't reach them. So it's not just Puerto Rico, we can't reach people in Florida right now, okay? And a lot of the roads are destroyed. So was there a good planning for that? Well, it certainly doesn't appear so. With Sarah, her dad, she was with her grandparents because of fall break. Her dad's calling in every hour, every half hour to make sure that she's okay. They're like, no, she's all right, we're all right, we're all inside, we're not outside,
Starting point is 00:34:22 we're doing the best we can. And a carport flies off because it's 155 mile per hour wind. A steel beam flies through the air, goes through the house, hits the little girl and the grandmother. Grandmother's lung is punctured, the ribs are broken, and the girl gets hit in the head. The dad is obviously in a panic, he's trying to drive up there, trying to make calls. And in the middle of it, they say, too late, she passed away, okay? So yes, she partly died because of climate change.
Starting point is 00:34:57 So it has devastating consequences. Understand that, absorb that so we can make the right policy decision. We're sitting around here chasing ghosts because of right-wing paranoia and fear. They're passing laws against Sharia law in Oklahoma. Yeah, they're worried about Muslims taking over Tulsa. Meanwhile, we got climate change killing American citizens day in, day out. Wake up to the real danger in this country. And our response to that is what?
Starting point is 00:35:25 To put people who are at the forefront of deregulation, the forefront of the fossil fuel industry to be the head of EPA. And so there is no surprise that when you have the rising temperature, you know, you know, The UN report by 2030 is a point of no return. That's not too far away, that's 12 years away. And for the planet to rise in temperature, 1.5 degrees, and all the hurricanes need is moisture and high temperatures, I mean, we're gonna get, the severity is gonna increase, more people are gonna die, and it could have been preventable.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Exactly. And we could still do something about it, and right now our current politicians say, no, it's a Chinese hoax. Apparently, a Chinese hoax just killed 13 people in America. It's not a hoax, 97% now, actually now 99% of the world scientists didn't all get those tens, hundreds of thousands of scientists all across the world, didn't get together and decided to launch a conspiracy. That is, anyone who thinks that is either incredibly stupid or purposely lying to you because
Starting point is 00:36:30 they get bribed by the fossil fuel industry, and it's leading to your family members getting killed. That's the real danger. And currently our government does nothing about it because they're part of the people taking the bribes. I mean, can we just have more thinkers and not deniers? Yeah. Like, just people with an open, open mind and, you know, uncorrupt pockets, I guess. It's, that's the big thing. And look, that why, you know, if you're wondering, if you watch the show on a regular basis, why do you, Jank, why do you keep coming back to money in politics? Because it's the root of all problems. They're literally paid to do nothing and let the danger fester and get worse and worse and worse.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So if you lost a family member in this hurricane, it's partly because, yes, Jim Inhoff and Scott Pruitt and Donald Trump, they all took bribes from the oil companies to make sure they don't do anything about climate change. Because if you did, you might do a carbon tax. Oh boy, that would affect their profits. Anything you do might affect their profits. God forbid ExxonMobil, one of the most profitable companies in the world, should make $10 less. So if they gotta sacrifice your kids, well, that's a sad day for you, not for them.
Starting point is 00:37:43 They're gonna keep on taking those bribes. Let's take a break. When we come back, we will tell you what's going on with the voter polls in Georgia. It's not looking good, so we're gonna give you the information on the real voter fraud that's going on. Yeah, look, then it's a level of cheating that is now so absolutely clear. We're going to show you the numbers. We'll show you how Republicans cheat all the time. They're the ones who do voter fraud. So it's indisputable. We'll do that when we return.
Starting point is 00:38:13 We hope you're enjoying this free clip from the Young Turks. If you want to get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media, become a member at t.com slash join today. In the meantime, enjoy this free segment. All right, back on the Young Turks. Let me just give a couple of comments here from people who were affected by the hurricane. Maxwell Crystal writes in on YouTube super chat. In Virginia Beach, I lost power ten times. Our friends showed me pictures of trees uprooted.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And to think the hurricane just nicked us, right? And think about, of course, obviously, people who got directed. Now we go to Rachel in the member section, and Rachel says, it pisses me off that I have friends who have lost everything in Hurricane Michael, a friend who broke their leg in the recovery effort, family who have no place to call home anymore. And for 45 minutes, he continues to talk about himself the entire time. He doesn't care, and his administration doesn't care. They never did, and they never will.
Starting point is 00:39:12 So it's true. And if you're hoping for this guy to come and protect you, which is part of the integral part of the job as president, unless you're rich and powerful, good luck. Help is not on the way. People on Twitter pointed out, this is the poorest part of Florida, the panhandle. And so, hey, let's help got to you, shocking. But let me end on a lighter note. Gabby Marita writes in, Donald Trump speaks like a poorly programmed knockoff of Google translate.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And Progressive Todd says, they're probably paid actors. Are there any lengths that George Soros won't go to? Now he bribed a whole town to destroy itself. So, hold, you never know when that conspiracy theory is coming. And let me tell you real quick about one of our sponsors, NordVPN, you guys have heard me talk about it before, but you got to get the 66% off to protect your computer. In fact, I was reading about it in the context of Donald Trump's story. I got to tell you guys about it.
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Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm being sarcastic, just don't money launder, it's bad. You might go to jail. Okay, unless you're the president. Okay, moving on. Voting rights continue to be a huge controversial topic in the state of Georgia, where it appears that it's secretary of state, a man by the name of Brian Kemp, who is also running for governor, is doing everything he can to take certain people off the voter rolls and prevent them from voting. Now, the certain people I'm talking about mostly consists of the minority community,
Starting point is 00:41:40 the black community in Georgia. Now, there have been two main policies implemented in the state of Georgia that have essentially disenfranchised voters. They're overseen by Kemp and have drawn criticism and legal challenges, Georgia's exact match registration verification process, and the mask collection, or I'm sorry, cancellation of inactive voter registrations. So one of the things that's happening, and we've talked about this on the show before, is they're pretending like they're trying to verify the addresses of voters. And so they supposedly sent out these mailers asking people to respond back to verify their address, many people didn't receive those mailers.
Starting point is 00:42:23 I'm guessing that some people probably lost them or saw them and thought it was just junk mail. But either way, tens of thousands of people have been taken off the voter rule. So 53,000 to be specific. Also under the policy, information on voter applications must precisely match information on file with the Georgia Department of Driver Services or Social Security Administration. So if there's even a small mistake. So for instance, if there is a missing hyphen in a hyphenated last name, they will be kicked off the voter rolls, okay?
Starting point is 00:42:56 So that's the one of the two issues. That's the exact match registration. So if it doesn't match perfectly, then they're like, no, you're on hold, and there's all these people that are being put on hold, and they might not be able to vote. And there's a reason why they're doing it, is it because they're really sticklers for grammar, or they're really worried about rampant voter fraud? There's almost no cases of voter fraud in Georgia. There's 13 in the whole country.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It is a minuscule, non-existent problem the Republicans invented to suppress the vote. And wait till you see what percentage this applies to for African Americans. Yes. That's a real reason they're doing it. So first, I want to be clear about what's been going on in the state of Georgia overall when it comes to voters being disenfranchised. This has been going on for a while, okay? It's gotten worse this year because of Kemp and his very tight race with Stacey Abrams
Starting point is 00:43:53 for governor. But Kemp's office has canceled over 1.4 million voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670,000 registrations were canceled in 2017 alone, okay? So let me be clear about context here. So do you, from time to time, do you need to cancel voter registrations? Yes, why? Because things like people die and they move. And so they're not there anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I don't live in New Jersey anymore. You gotta clear my name from the voter rolls in New Jersey because I'm in California now, okay? So it's not a thing that that is, it doesn't have to be done to do voter purges, okay? But that's why you have to look at the numbers. And is it an extreme number? Who does it target? What has been the effect? And in fact, historically, there's were a number of states since the Civil Rights Act
Starting point is 00:44:45 that would systematically discriminate against minorities, and they would do so by doing voter purges only in certain areas or in certain ways that were meant to affect African Americans more. Now, they had to clear it with the courts before they did it in the past, but this right-wing court said, no, you don't have to clear it anymore, go back to any discrimination you like, and after you win the elections, they could bring it up and good luck to them, okay? So it's now a joke. So the 1.4 million numbers since 2012 for Brian Kemp and what he did in Georgia is a huge
Starting point is 00:45:17 number. But that's pales of comparison to this year, $670,000 in just this year. Now, why? In 2017. I'm sorry, in 2017. Now why? Now Brian Kemp is the Secretary of State. He knows what he's position he's going to run for, and now in 2018 he does run for it.
Starting point is 00:45:37 He's running for governor. He's maintaining the race for himself. So he's getting to make the decisions of which voters to exclude and a race he's in. So everybody's like, well, you got to obviously recuse yourself. He's like, nope, I don't care. He refuses. Not only will I not recuse myself, I'll cheat, I'll actively cheat and block your voters. So he claims, like we got to get into the demographic numbers, right?
Starting point is 00:46:03 Because that's the most relevant part of this. So it appears that he's specifically targeting the black community. And the numbers prove that, okay? So George's population is approximately 32% black, and that's according to the U.S. census. But the list of voter registrations on hold with Kemp's office is nearly 70% black. Gee, I wonder why. And he thinks, well, the way that he's trying to portray this in the media, because of course he's getting a lot of criticism for this, is no, no, no, this is nothing more than a made-up,
Starting point is 00:46:33 left-wing conspiracy, that's not what's happening. I'm just trying to ensure that there isn't voter fraud in my state. Right, so the civil- Total lie, is it? Yeah, that isn't a total lie. So the civil rights group, Color of Change, has called this a return to the Jim Crow Act, or to Jim Crow time period and era that was before the civil rights movement had put legislation that overturned Jim Crow laws across the country.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And this exact match scenario, actually, violates the Voting Rights Act, which the civil rights movement put into law. And what's interesting is the lawyers committee for civil rights under law successfully sued Kemp for doing the same exact thing in 2016 using this exact match scheme where he tried to put 40,000 registrations on hold. So he has a history of doing this. He has a history of being successfully sued for it. And so the fact that he wouldn't recuse himself is not only obnoxious, but he knows he has
Starting point is 00:47:38 a chance of losing big time. Because Stacey Abrams could be the first black woman governor in U.S. history. And they're not ready to give that up at all. And I- In Georgia. In Georgia. In Virginia, we had a black governor. Oh, woman? Oh, no, not a woman, sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:56 A woman, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Black governor, that's what she'd be the first. So she would be the first, and this is a really tight race. And this is, I mean, we have to watch out for this because there are so many schemes that the Republican Party and the Trump administration have put into effect that are eroding your civil liberties, your civil rights, and they're doing it either under your nose or without mainstream media putting zero, without mainstream media putting intense focus on something that That will take away your rights.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I mean, this is just the beginning. Yeah, no, look, everybody who cares should be outraged. I mean, look, if you're a Republican, are you proud of this? It's like, ha ha, we get to cheat, and we blocked 70% African Americans, and I mean, and then you go around saying, oh, where do you guys get racism from? Now, I know that the main reason Kemp's doing it is because he's a cheater and wants to win, and he'll do it at any cost, and it just so happens that African Americans vote against Republicans, so he's like, then I gotta block African Americans.
Starting point is 00:49:05 So I don't know what's in his heart about, does he hate black people? I don't know, maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. But it doesn't matter that his actions affect blacks clearly, decisively, indisputably, disproportionately. It's clearly affecting blacks more, and well, that is a racial and racist outcome. And so at a bare minimum, he doesn't care. In fact, he revels in it. He, he, I don't know if he's like joking, but he's, and this is also partly racist.
Starting point is 00:49:35 He says, no, no, no, it's their problem because they didn't adequately fill out the forms. Okay, and I mean, it's just such a, that's a dog whistle, they don't know what they're doing, it's their fault, not my fault. And so, and the Republican Party does this unfortunately, this is a, maybe the most brazen case because it affects 70% African Americans, right? Gee, I wonder if that was an accident. That's not remotely an accident. But the Republican Party does this throughout the country, and they study different ways of how
Starting point is 00:50:07 do you do voter suppression without saying, hey, I'm just going to pick black people and Latinos or whoever and make sure they don't get to vote. If you do that, well, then the courts say, okay, that's obviously racist, you're picking black people because they're black. So what do they do? They've studied all the data. One of the things that they've found is that it turns out that minorities, African Americans most, I think Asians second and Latinos third, have the same name.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So there'll be two Doug Jones in the same county. So what they do is they say, all right, we're wiping out all the people with same names. And for whatever reason, as it turns out, that affects whites significantly less than minorities. So it wipes away a lot of minorities disproportionately, and then they go, what, what? I didn't do it based on race, but they do it all over because they know that that is the exact purpose. Here in Georgia, here's another example. Brian Kemp, the well-known cheater, a fraud who's running for governor right now, another trick
Starting point is 00:51:11 he tried to do was close down the majority of polling stations in a black county, okay? And the county eventually was like, no, no, we're not gonna do it. So it's, he does it on purpose, he picks black counties, he says, okay, if I shut down enough polling stations, I'll get to say, well, there was a couple that were open, but it makes it much harder for you to vote, much more inconvenient, and it makes the lines in the other polling stations way longer, and then you might be late to work and lose your job, et cetera. So it's a way of systematically discriminating against African Americans on purpose. What is that?
Starting point is 00:51:46 It's both cheating and being a goddamn racist, which is what Brian Kemp is. I know that conservatives just they cry all the time when you point out facts about what they do, but this has clear racist results. That's who Brian Kemp is. If your excuse for him is, yeah, but he has a lust for power. And that's why he did it, not because he hates black people. Congratulations. Well, you know, the thing is the Republican Party actually hasn't been able to win successfully.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I would say decades in major races. So they've either resorted to gerrymandering, voter suppression, or something we rarely talk about anymore because it was decided by the governor of Florida and the Supreme Court at the time was Bush's presidential election in 2000, which was a classic case of voter fraud, of charging people around voter fraud, for hanging chads. And then his brother was the governor of Florida. And he just went right through to becoming president of the United States. So the Republican Party hasn't been successfully winning, so they're going all out in their cheating schemes, whether it is colluding with the Russians or practicing systematic racist Jim Crow era strategies to do so.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I just want people who pretend like they're outraged by the disrespect shown by NFL players kneeling. to stop, just please stop pretending like you care about our democracy, you care about what this country stands for, you care about what the soldiers are protecting, you don't care about any of that. Because this is the kind of thing you should be outraged about, regardless of which political party is doing it. Now if Democrats were doing it, we would be outraged. When the DNC was conducting itself the way it was during this past election, we were outraged
Starting point is 00:53:37 about that. We criticized Hillary's campaign as a result of that, because that was not okay. But look, we're talking about two different sides that play by two different rules. You have a group of people who want to be principled and want to do the right thing because they actually value democracy. And then you have the other side to answer your point, are Republicans proud of this? Hell yeah, they're proud of this. Do you see them getting upset about it?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Do you see them, you know, trying to protect voters in the state of Georgia? Of course they don't. They've been trying to, you know, spread this false narrative of voter fraud since 2012. Yeah, if somebody came up to me and said, hey, we can systematically block white males from voting disproportionately because they vote in higher numbers for Republicans, you want to do it, I'd say, of course not. Who the hell that believes in democracy would want to do that? If you think that they vote more for Republicans, then go convince them to vote for Democrats.
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's how you do it. But that's because we actually have integrity, unlike Republicans who don't care about that at all. And what Anna's point is 100% fair. If you're a Republican, are you calling out Brian Kemp? No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:54:47 No, you're not. And students protesting Ben Shapiro. That's what they're fine about. There are no Republican politicians calling out Brian Kemp for his obvious voter fraud, cheating, racism, all of it. No one calling him out. You know, what happened to the line of logic that Republicans usually use? Well, the moderate Muslims should be calling out the extreme Muslims.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Well, moderate Republicans, why aren't you calling out this extreme Republican? who's clearly cheating in this election. By the way, his opponent is not just any old Democrat, as Matha pointed out, she's African-American. And then, golly gee, he happened to block African-American votes and try to limit polling in African-American counties in Georgia. What a coincidence. It's not a coincidence, and you know it. You know he's an absolute cheater, and I don't see a single goddamn Republican doing anything
Starting point is 00:55:30 about it. In fact, you revel in it. So just admit it, you're part of a party who doesn't like democracy, you like cheating, and that's why you're proud of guys like Brian Kemp. I think I was clear about that. Was I clear? And by the way, Stacey Abrams is a wonderful progressive and we will have links down below if you're watching this later on YouTube or Facebook.
Starting point is 00:55:50 So you can tour our website so you can find out more and try to help her. And if you live in Georgia, I don't care if you're African American, any other race, I don't care what you are. You should not stand for this. They're trying to block your vote. You should all show up in record numbers in Georgia and send this Brian Camp home. Otherwise, he's going to be your governor and he's going to actively oppress you for the entirety of his term. End his career.
Starting point is 00:56:15 End his career right now. Yeah. And show up for black women because black women have showed up in the Roy Moore election. Black women have showed up to try to prevent Trump for becoming president. The least you could do is show up for an incredible, not just because she's a black woman. Like Jench said, she's an incredible progressive politician. look up her politics, look up her policy proposals, and get Kemp out of business. All right, unfortunately, we're out of time.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Wonderful, power panel. Thank you so much for joining us, Jake and Matha. Thank you. So Mike McClintock from Veep is next. Okay, it's actually, I don't know if you know that, but he's an actor. So great power panel coming up, amazing stories, and including Melania Trump saying to Rudy Giuliani. No, he's not telling the truth. So drums, lots to get to, we'll be right back. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free,
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