The Young Turks - Nobels & Whistles - October 10, 2025

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We didn't drop it, and it's on a Friday. We did not. I have a lot of news for you guys today about the show, about the actual news. But first is, look, we're pausing the power panel for a while for a number of reasons. But because as you're seeing with the bonus episode, et cetera, we're changing things up a little bit. So bear with us. I think you like what we're doing. So again today, third day of the revolution at 8 o'clock Eastern.

I've got updates for you guys, including a congressman who has partly responded. Okay, super interesting. Trying to get Congress people on board. God, if this works in any way, shape, or form. So make sure you stay around for 8 o'clock. That's for everybody, thanks to the generosity of our members. And after that, interview tonight at 8.30 p.m., Lieutenant Colonel Aguilar, who's the whistleblower against the so-called Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

Those are the people that were kind of feeding, kind of killing the Palestinian. And he's going to be on air with us. And it's a perfect date for it because apparently the Gaza humanitarian foundation after the ceasefire has just disappeared. There are nowhere to be found. So that is super interesting. That's at 8.30 p.m. Eastern. And at the end, I'm doing this thing that one of our members suggested. I'm going to do a little story of the day at the end of the show for just for the members.

It's just like five minutes. We did it yesterday for the first time. But I'm gonna start now with the story of the day for you guys anyway, because I want John to hear this, okay? And then we'll get to the news, oh my God, we've got the ceasefire. By the way, today is like anti-America First Day, but like- It really is. Yeah, but Trump's doing it, right? Trump's like, no, I don't want America first, okay? Like three different stories are like, no, not America first, super interesting. Okay, so here's the quick story.

So I'm in LA today and I'm doing a, actually we were on the morning meeting and figuring on what's put on the show and some guy goes, oh my God, Janko, I love the show. You got amazing, I can't believe I ran into you. And I'm like, oh well, great to meet you and stuff. And he's like, all right, I gotta go. Damage reports coming on. Literally, literally. Literally.

That's like, yeah, I think he messaged us actually. Oh really? Somebody said something about meeting you. Yeah, yeah. Deante. Yes, yes. Yeah, yeah. No, but it was great.

I love this so much, it was great. Like, it's wonderful to meet you in person, but I got to go watch John. Digitally. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I love that. Everybody check out damage report. You're crazy, all right?

1 p.m. every day, Eastern. So it's on YouTube. It's obviously on t.y.t.com. All right. Can I very briefly mention a meeting a fan over the weekend, actually? Because sometimes you meet fans in the weirdest places. So I had taken my mom, my wife, and my daughter, we go to a pumpkin patch. You know, it's Halloween.

It's all the things I look forward to. It's so fun. This is her third time. But she's now like she can run around. She sort of knows what's going on. So she's loving this petting zoo or whatever. We finally leave the petting zoo and right next to the petting zoo, there's a little contraption where they have four ponies that the kids can get on and they all circle around and people are like walking them.

And so like a guy is like walking one of the ponies and he comes around and he locks eyes with me. And like I was like, I was like, did I do something wrong? And then I realized he knew who I was. And like he clearly wanted to come talk to me, but he had to come. keep walking with the pony. So I felt kind of bad. We eventually talked, but he was stopped by his duties, unfortunately. Yeah, well, or the pony's duties. There was a bit of that. All right, anyways, all right, let's get to the important stuff. Okay, I just did. That was the importance. Also, there's a ceasefire. We don't mean to beat a dead pony or an alive pony. Okay. No more,

no more. Okay, let's jump into this now. Today, the ceasefire in Gaza has apparently finally gone into effect after both Israel and Hamas agreed to phase one of the peace plan outlined by the Trump administration. That's good, that's all good. But there was a little wrinkle. And we've all been waiting for the wrinkles, possible developments that could upset this entire thing. And I feel sure that those are going to happen probably over the weekend. But it's not that, deal's not off. But previously, Trump had been very clear that under No circumstances are American soldiers going to be deployed on the ground in the Middle East. And that didn't even last one year because now 200 American troops are being sent

to Israel. So yesterday, not going to the Middle East. Today, Israel, but not Gaza. So don't worry, they're not going to go hunting down Hamas as of today anyway. But American officials said that the U.S. Central Command led by Admiral Brad Cooper will establish a civil military coordination Center in Israel to provide security and humanitarian support. The goal of that center will be to establish a hub for military, political, and aid experts to help coordinate everything from humanitarian assistance to security support and the execution of the ceasefire agreement. And there's a couple interesting things about that.

First of all, so could we not have been involved in all this humanitarian stuff before? Why only now? That seems a little bit strange. Also, I'm going to explain that one. Thank you. That's helpful. 200 soldiers, but they're not going in. No guns, no combat, just in this big fancy building for aid. And I hope that that is the case. They're apparently going to be mostly military planners and specialists in logistics, security, and other support fields. So, you know, it's not like, it's not Black Hawk helicopters flying over Gaza or anything. That remains just a thing of American cities for now. But they are going to be there. And that feels like kind of a line being crossed?

What do you think? Yeah, well, I'm a little worried about it not being much of America first. But hold on, there's two very countervailing forces here. One upside for them going, which is the explanation of me a second, one significant potential downside. Okay, so why are they going now as opposed to before? I believe they're going to coordinate with the Arab countries who might be helping to run. Gaza. Before, there were no Arab countries running Gaza, so they didn't need coordination. But wait a minute, why do they need Americans to coordinate those countries? Because those

countries rightfully don't trust Israel at all. So if they had to just coordinate with Israel, they'd be like, I mean like, all right, do we all need pagers? What do we need? Like when are we're going to get murdered, right? So they kind of need the Americans as a buffer to say, hey, don't worry that Israelis are not going to surprise murder you. And instead you can coordinate with us. and we actually are trying to make this peace deal happen. So if that is the reason why they're going, then at least that's an excellent reason. And I can see why like, I don't like it.

I don't want ground troops at all, at all, at all. Okay, but okay, I can see at least the rationale. Now, the downsides, number one, the minute you start ground troops, you know what happens. Well, they aren't armed. They're advisors. Oh, what, they're armed. Well, I mean, there was 200.

Now there's 2,000. Once you get to 2,000, it's over. Then 20,200,000, and off we go. So that's problem number one. Problem number two is they better come home alive. Because the problem with Israel is like, oh, the Hamas and the Palestinians killed some American troops that were sitting right next to Mossad's headquarters.

And now you all have, all Americans must hate the Arabs and kill them all and give us their land, right? So I'm super worried about that. Because whatever, like, if any of them are harmed, you know 1,000% that it, no matter who did it, Israel is going to say it was the Palestinians, right? And would I believe them? No, absolutely not. They've done nothing but lie, right? So I'm super worried about that. By the way, I'll say something and I don't care what anybody thinks of it. Trump's going to go to Israel. He better come back home alive.

So I, like, I don't want to hear anything about, oh, the dirty Arabs did it. No, but violent, horrible, monstrous Palestinians did it, right? Because he made Israel sign this peace deal. This peace deal, as we've talked about, has upsides and downsides, right? But Nanyahu didn't want to do it. Now Trump is going over there. There's going to be no excuses. And that's to flip Maga to be in support.

I think that's a couple steps too far, but it's an exciting premise. No, no, no, no. Look, very, very, very unlikely. That would be the most mental thing in the world, right? But if you're saying, well, Cenk, how dare you? Israel would never even think of some. Come on, guys. Really?

After at this late date, Israel would never think of an underhanded tactic to drive America into further war on their behalf? Okay, well, if you're in that camp and you still think Israel's like some, has rainbows and unicorns shooting out of its ass, that's okay. Then I can't help you, right? But I think they're one of the most nefarious governments, this current government, on planet Earth and maybe in my lifetime. So, and if they don't get that they all, the troops, Trump,

everybody has to come back home safe, they're, oh my God, the fury would be unparalleled. Yeah. So I'm just saying. That's small world, because I also, in my big rant about this yesterday, I also made reference to unicorns. This episode is brought to you by prize picks. You and I make decisions every day, but on prize picks, being right can get you paid.

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Obviously, Israel has continued to bomb the region, but it hasn't been violated to the extent that it's been scrapped. It's still going on, and that is good. The living hostages, the Israeli hostages are expected to be returned to Israel by midday on Monday. And Israel has now published a list of the names of 250 Palestinian prisoners. It will release after the hostages are returned. Hamas is currently pushing for more to be released. There had previously been references to nearly 2000. I don't know what's happened to that, perhaps they'll still do that.

But while that's going on, in theory, the Palestinian people who have been very strategic, hurted into the extreme south of Gaza that now theoretically can return to some portions of Gaza that have been denied to them. And I think we actually have a little video in regards to that. A journey very few could have imagined even days ago. Now thousands of Palestinians start on the road home to Gaza city. There may be very little when they get there, but this is the beginning of what they hope will be an end to the destruction and devastation of the last two years. Just hours before the ceasefire began, clouds of smoke filled the air early

this morning. Both Israelis and Palestinians alike rejoiced when the deal was announced. But in Gaza, much earlier today, some of the two million people displaced have to now see it to believe it. We hope that this suffering will end, and that all the people of the earth will live in safety and peace, everyone who has lived around us, near us, and far from us, and that no people will go through what we have gone through. That breaks my heart seeing the little girl crawl around. Looks very similar to my daughter right now hearing him, hope that everything is going to work now and there will be peace. And I hope for him that there will be. I sort of doubt it. In the meantime, though,

while they can return to some portion of Gaza, again, the majority, the slight majority, is still even under the terms of this going to be controlled by Israel, at least for now. What are they returning to? I made reference to this late last week. Most of Gaza has been bombed into nothing. And you're seeing right there sort of satellite mapping of the nearly 200,000 buildings in the Gaza Strip that have been damaged since the start of the war. Seventy-four percent of buildings have likely been damaged since October 7. So that's obviously homes, stores, the places one might work, hospitals, schools, a lot of that intentionally. And so what are you returning to?

And like hopefully now some of the aid will come in. There will be food, which will be good since, you know, hundreds and hundreds of people have been intentionally starved. That's an improvement. But like long term, what's the answer? I haven't heard in any of this commitments to rebuild infrastructure or homes by Israel after destroying them. Now my plan, maybe this is radical. I certainly haven't heard anybody talk about this. I think every single cent that we formerly would be providing to Israel for more bombs should instead be routed to Gaza for infrastructure, homes, medicine, food, rebuilding the hospitals, the schools, all that. All that money should be diverted from now until God knows when.

And as uncomfortable as I am about U.S. troops being in the region, and I fear that were they two step foot in Gaza, something would happen that would escalate at all. I also think that there's a case to be made that their presence in there might be one of the only things long term that will stop Israel from bombing that area, knowing that in theory were they to kill U.S. troops, that would probably be a problem for them. Now, in the past, they've killed American civilians, you know, outside of settlements and things like that, and they haven't gotten much trouble for that, activist media. So maybe it's sort of a fool's dream that even the soldiers being killed would be enough. But in any event, as of right now, people are returning, but I don't know to what. I suppose a tent city set up in a different part of Gaza. Okay, so they've killed nine Americans since 2022. Both the Biden administration and the Trump administration have said nothing.

Like, oh, we regret it. We'll look into it. They haven't looked into it. No one cares. Israel can even murder Americans like the Israeli settlers do. The IDF does. I mean, they shot a Palestinian American journalist in the neck. And there was no consequence at all.

She was the most famous journalist in Palestine. She was an American citizen. They murdered her with a sniper shot from hundreds of yards away. And America was like, how much money would you like? Okay. And so no accountability at all. I mean, they attacked the USS Liberty. They attacked one of our ships.

That was a long time ago. But what's weird about that is like if you say that, people in mainstream media go, that's anti-Semitic. But wait, did they? Yeah, they're like, yeah, of course they did. So history is, and facts and truth are anti-Semitic. I don't think you realize what you're saying. Like that's a terrible thing to say about actually Jewish Americans, right? That's not about them.

It's about Jewish Americans didn't attack America. Israel attacked America. But that's just an example of all the things they've gotten away with. So if you're new to this or you used to watch cable news, which is otherwise known as Israeli propaganda, like you might be like, oh my God, are you allowed to say this about Israel? Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh my God, are you saying that Israel could actually harm Americans to get something they want? Brough, okay, I mean like this is now, and they hate this, that now the internet knows all of this, right? And they're like, shitch, sheesh, 187 is Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, like, no, no, no, no, I don't care, I don't care.

As long as the troops are fine and Trump is fine and everybody's fine and you actually do the peace deal, great, wonderful. My God, you do two independent states, 1967 borders. Great, wonderful, then we love Israel. We'd love to have Israel among the great nations on earth, et cetera. But if when you're gonna be a pariah terrorist state, yeah, we're gonna question you. If you just committed a genocide right in front of our eyes, yeah, we're gonna question you.

And if you don't like that, you can kiss my ass. I don't care what you like or don't like. They're like, oh, my feelings. I'm so pro Israel, my feelings, right? Israel murdered 20,000 kids. I don't give a goddamn about your feelings. So okay, to that point to, and what John was saying, You know how many buildings in Gaza have been destroyed or damaged?

One hundred and ninety eight thousand eight hundred and eighty three. 74% of the buildings. They leveled the place. The Israeli minister on social equality, what an Orwellian title, gave a fire-breathing speech about how so happy about the ruins of Palestine of Gaza and how they destroyed all the Palestinians. And she said, I want their children and their grandchildren to know the Jews did this. And I was like, no, don't say that.

Don't say that. You lunatics don't say that, right? So, okay, Jesus, man. Like we're trying to keep both things at bay here, right? Like Israel's being monstrous and we're trying to stop them from a genocide. And we're trying to also make sure anti-Semitism doesn't rise in a real and significant. way while Israel's like, come on, be anti-Semites, be anti-Semites. Like, don't stop, so we speak for all Jews.

If you don't love genocide, you hate Jews. No, no, stop saying that. All right, anyway, so back to the peace deal. Look, first, on behalf of the whole world, Palestinians, we are so sorry that we did not do enough. We all, the entire world and certainly our governments are cowardly, cowardly governments that constantly for so long for all of these decades and these two horrific years serve Israel instead of their own voters and their own constituents, let alone standing up for humanity

and decency as they pretended they were in favor of. At the very end of the genocide, which by the way we're not done with yet, they're like, okay, maybe we, maybe the Palestinians are slightly human and we should slightly care, right? So no, the world abandoned you. And every government official in the West owes you a deep apology. You're the strongest and bravest of us. Thank you for withstanding this. I don't know who could have withstood this like the brave and strong Palestinians did. You were heroic and we love you for it. Now I wish this was the real end and we were giving this speech at the end. But the reality is Israel never stops. Their arrogance and hubris of this particular government is unmatched, unparalleled in my lifetime.

So everybody's celebrating like, oh, it's over, Israel is going to go back home. Go back home, where? At the end of this, they have 53% of Gaza. And they say, oh, no, don't worry. We'll withdraw to a security perimeter. They're not going to withdraw to any security permit. Besides which, the security perimeter is 15% of Gaza. So they're going to stay.

Once they stay, there's going to be some sort of troubled or they're going to pretend Hamas didn't turn themselves in enough. And that's it. They're going to go, well, you know, bombing or not bombing, they're not leaving. They came to take land from Palestinians. They came to take a portion of Gaza and make it part of greater Israel. That is not conspiratorial. They have said it many, many, many times. And not just Ben Gavir and Smaltrich, tons of their ministers, and also Netanyahu himself said,

it is his historic and spiritual mission to set up greater Israel, which includes Judea and Samaria, That's the West Bank and Gaza's trip. They came to steal the land. Now they're taking 53% and go, that's ours. That's ours, right? And we'd be lucky if they stayed at 53% and then continue to brutalize the Palestinians. So unfortunately, it's not over yet. Yeah, that's definitely my fear.

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Listen wherever you get your podcasts. with the Israeli government. Let's take a little look at that. Who voters sympathize more with the Israelis or the Palestinians? Back in October of 2023, it was the Israelis by 48 points. Look at this shift. Now we're talking about the Palestinians by a point. I looked back at every single poll that I could possibly find

since this question was first asked in the 1980s. This is the first time ever in which the Palestinians had any sort of lead on this particular question. question, it is very clear that this war cause a historic shift away from the Israeli position in the Middle East conflict and towards the Palestinians when it comes to who Americans and voters sympathize with. So that is obviously a massive change. I'm not sure that I can come up with an example of that big of a change, even in the period

of two years. I mean, I could be a little bit Buzz Killington and say that a 49 point change means that It took more than a thousand people killed for each point in that change. Feels like it should have been quicker. It feels like we should have caught on faster, but we didn't, that's what happened. Now, some groups shifted more rapidly and more fully than others. So Harrington acknowledged that the Democrats back in October of 2023 had favored the Israelis by 26 points, they now sympathize more with Palestinians by 46 points, which is

72 points. I mean, that's just that there's literally never been a shift that big. And so all it took was two years of the most devastating war crimes I think that we've ever seen. And so that's good. Now the shift was evident among Republicans as well, particularly as you talk about younger cohorts of Republicans. Here's a little bit more from Harry Anson. Who Republicans sympathize more. You see a massive huge age divide. Those 50 and over what we over what we see amongst Republicans is they sympathize more with the Israelis by 66 points. But look at the voters under the age of 50. They do sympathize with the Israelis, but just by 25 points,

we're talking about a 40 point difference with the youngest Republicans being far more sympathetic to the Palestinian position than older Republicans are. So, yeah, I mean, that's a huge difference between the two. I mean, instantly my mind goes to after two years of genocide, they're now where the Democrats were. Anyway, look, all these polls, you can look at them optimistically or pessimistically. Regardless, it's a lot of change in just two years. No, I love it, it's huge and it's only gonna get bigger, okay?

So first of all, if you did under 35 for Republican voters, my guess is, and I haven't seen the polling yet, but my guess is if it's not today, it'll be tomorrow, we'll be pro-Palestinian, because under 35 is gone. You go online and try to make a pro-Israel point to MAGA under 35. They're not interested at all, at all. Okay, so it's less sympathy towards Palestinians in that case, and maybe I'm being unfair to them, but more, and by the way, there are actually two right-wing media figures that are very sympathetic to the Palestinians and to Muslims in a way that is absolutely shocking and more sympathetic to Muslims than all of mainstream media combined in my lifetime.

Those two are Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. So sorry if that hurts your feelings, but it's a fact. They've said it over and over again. They treat Muslims as human beings. They're saying, why are we paying for the murder of these kids? That kind of sympathy, I have seen zero for mainstream media. None. So don't tell me I'm supposed to be offended on behalf of other people.

When no one's offended on my behalf, on my family's behalf, on my community's behalf, why isn't everybody just disgusted with mainstream media that has been deeply bigoted against Muslims, not just throughout the entirety of my lifetime, but in these last two years, they're like, oh, all your kids are being killed, who cares, whatever. Oh my God, someone criticized Israel on a college campus. Let's talk about it for 24-7. Dead kids, who gives a damn?

So when Tucker and Candace say, hey, you know, Muslims are people and we should stop killing them, that's amazing. They say other things I don't agree with, but guys, show me one cable news anchor. that has had the sympathy they have had for Muslims. And if you haven't seen the clips, they're unbelievable. Kandis-O was talking about we got taught to hate Muslims and it made no sense. I'm so sorry for what I've said before, right? I mean, did I expect that from Kansas?

I would, you couldn't have gotten me to believe that Candace Jones was going to say that if my life depended on it, right? So anyways, the reason I bring that up is because it was propaganda by all of mainstream media in my entire lifetime that got those poll numbers to be sympathetic to Israel. Israelis rather than Palestinians. You say, well, that's outrageous. Israel is our moral, special ally. Of course they drug the dirty palsy. Exactly, guys, exactly. Why did the media treat them as the dirty, savage terrorist Palestinians for 40, 50 years when they were the ones occupied?

They're like, Israel has the right to exist. Dude, it already exists. Palestine doesn't exist. Who cares about the Palestinians? That's been mainstream media my whole life. They're guilty. They're the most racist, bigoted people in the country. So then they could pretend they care about bigotry towards Jewish Americans, but never to Muslim Americans.

So that's why the polls are high to begin with. But now because of the Internet, which they despise, and I love it, I love it. The Internet woke up like in unison over the last two years. Don't use that term. You might turn them off. Woke. But it is, it is an awakening, right? Not having to do with anything woke, et cetera, from the past. where, especially in the last six months, and one of the things that's aggravating,

especially the young right wing is, wait a minute, you're telling me 90% of Congress gets money from the Israeli lobbies, the different PACs that support Israel, and they all vote for Israel no matter what, and they all give away our money to Israel, remember, this is the right wing, and we've already given them $310 billion, and we've already given them $310 billion, And we owe the entire media and all the politicians say, no, go back to work. You owe Israel more. You think Maga's going to like that? Yeah, they're sellout crook politicians like that.

Ted Cruz is stuffed $2 million of APEC money in his mouth likes that. But the voters don't. And when they realize, oh, these, this is, I've been, like, tricked by the mainstream media, I loathe, right? And some of our scum politicians into hating Muslims on behalf of Israel, that's it. The support for Israel is gone. And I'm here for it. Guys, 58 brutal years of occupation and the entire time for 58 years as Israel was the aggressor, Israel was the one that denied Palestinians a right to exist, the one that humiliated them,

killed them, occupied them. The entire time, American media said, Israel is the greatest, Palestinians are terrorists. How dare they resist their occupation? That's what American media said. That's why those polls were like that. Now the internet says to mainstream media, we don't give a goddamn what your propaganda is. No, we see now. Now we can see and now we can hear and we don't need your interpretation anymore.

And so they don't want Israel, not only, look, again, the left cares a lot about the Palestinians. in Gaza, etc. The right, it's a mixed bag, it's a mixed bag. Like I just told you, some of them actually care for the first. They're like, oh my God, Muslims are human, right? That's amazing. Some of them don't care about that so much, but they do care that America is not controlled by a foreign government. And if you think that the Israeli lobby in America that gave 90% of Congress billions of dollars didn't affect our politicians, no, literally no, literally no. one can believe that unless they're the most naive person in the world, they're blinded by bias, or they're mainstream media reporters scared to death of having their career ruined if they

criticize Israel. That's the reality. So these numbers are only going to get higher for sympathy towards the Palestinians and no sympathy for Israel, because honestly, these oppressors, and it's not just this government. I know a lot of people get emotional, oh, no, no, no, no, then Yahoo's fine, but don't ever criticize Israel from that. But were they occupying the Palestinians for two years or 58 years. Yeah. The occupation has always been abhorrent and totally utterly unacceptable. And last thing, utterly racist.

Now those Palestinians can't govern themselves. They're all terror. You're trying to kill all the Jews. You're the ones killing them. They're not the ones killing. Oh, they killed two or three of us. So we had to kill hundreds of thousands of them. No, no, no.

Israel is not the victim. The only reason why you might think that is either extreme bias, or you got brainwashed by mainstream media into making you think the overwhelming aggressor in the area is somehow the victim. So I love to see America waking up. Yeah. Well, we're gonna take a break. We come back. We have more peace to discuss after this. poker icon, Phil Helmute. Thanks to Bet Rivers, I'm also a Slots icon. Great.

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This is the most deserved Nobel Peace Prize recipient in the history of the world, President Donald Trump. I think that he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. I want to present to you, Mr. President, the letter I sent to the Nobel Prize Committee. It's nominating you for the Peace Prize, which is well deserved. You should get it. Mike Johnson got on Twitter this week and proclaimed that Donald Trump should be given the Nobel Peace Prize for unleashing American troops against his own people. I wasn't expecting a surprise fair appearance. I enjoyed that. But all those accolades and endorsements from all these different world leaders, didn't end up actually

getting him the Nobel Peace Prize. Try again next year, I suppose, President Trump, but he didn't end up getting it. Interestingly, the woman who did end up getting the prize actually sort of dedicated it to Donald Trump, so maybe that will placate him. And we're going to give you a lot of details about her, about the why it is that she won it, and also how she's connected to some of what we've been seeing developing politically and militarily between the United States and Venezuela. But first, Jake, what was your initial reaction when the news broke? It's not going to be Trump, at least this year. The horror. The horror. Okay, guys, he hasn't done anything yet. First of all, they voted

before this Gaza peace deal. Second of all, the Gaza peace deal isn't even ineffective. The hostages haven't been returned. Israel's probably going to violate it within a couple of days. So here's what I've been saying all along, John, which is if he actually gets a two state solution, no, I'm going to aggressively lobby for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize. I'd even trip into a go fund me to build a statue. Okay, two state solution. It hasn't happened my whole life. We could fight him on everything else. But has that happened? Bring it down. That has not happened at all, right? So, but wait until you find out who actually did win it makes you go, And I have a theory as to watch you want it. Yeah, save your money on the statue. They've already got a statue of him and his former best friend out in front of the White House, actually. I think it's a great likeness.

But in any event, he didn't win it. The woman who did is Maria Karina Machado. She's the opposition leader in Venezuela. And obviously well known to the sort of people who choose the Nobel Peace Prize and all of that. I led with our coverage on the damage for this morning saying that I wasn't familiar with her work. I'm not an expert in Venezuela. Venezuela and I've been looking at like all like the media responses to this today and it turns out I'm the only one who isn't everybody's deeply familiar

with all of this it seems isn't that weird how the media works out but in any event we're gonna go over some of the facts so that you do know what she has done according to Amy Goodman of Democracy Now Machado has been considered an ally of the United States four years now she was actually nominated for the prize by Florida Republicans interestingly enough including Secretary of State Marco Rubio, which I feel like could lead to some awkward conversations. In 2024, she actually tried to run for president against Nicholas Maduro, but the government stepped in and stopped her from running, claiming that she was corrupt and pointing to her

support for U.S. sanctions on Venezuela. See, in Venezuela, the government gets involved and messes with the elections. Obviously, that would never happen here. Here's some more information about her. Considered a staunch advocate of free market economics, privatization of state industries, foreign investment, and closer alignment with the U.S. and Western institutions, Machado has openly called for U.S. sanctions on Caracas and regularly lobbies U.S. media and officials for support. And in particular on that topic of foreign investment, Machado has touted an economic plan to American and other investors, saying that a Democratic Venezuela, under her movement's control, has the potential to generate $1.7 trillion

dollars in wealth in 15 years. Some of it might even go to the people of that country, perhaps. In June of this year, she told corporate representatives from America, our message to oil companies is, we want you here, certainly, we want you here not producing crumbs of a couple hundred thousand barrels a day, we want you here producing millions of barrels a day. And all of that seems like the sort of thing that America, in terms of foreign policy, has been interested in over the past few decades. And so some of that you can sort of understand why some of these figures that you might not have expected to be in support of a person other than Trump who would win the No

Mail Peace Prize are actually in support of her. And obviously it's a mixed picture, like there's all this economic stuff. That said she has stood up to Maduro, her life has theoretically been on the line, let alone her freedom. And so, you know, there's there's a lot out there, Jank. But obviously, maybe some of this takes a bit of this thing away from Donald Trump. If it plays into some strategy perhaps, let alone her or dedicating it to him. Yeah, I totally agree.

So first, when I heard the news that it was Venezuelan who was opposed to Maduro who won the Peace Prize, I thought, yeah, I can see that. That makes sense. So I'm not a fan of Maduro. I think Maduro is oppressing his own people in a lot of ways. I don't believe he won the last election. But it's so hard to know who's right and who's wrong because does he do massive propaganda? Absolutely. Does the U.S. do massive propaganda?

Absolutely. Do I trust mainstream media on what they're reporting on Venezuela? 50-50. Some of it is true and some of it is colored by the fact that, you know, our media, unfortunately, instead of challenging our government, 90% of the time, you know, backs our government. Oh, there's a link from the panther. Venezuela is super evil, right? I mean, when they want the oil. We read you the quote earlier in the week. Richard Cornell, who's negotiating peace for us with Venezuela. I'm like, when did we

go to war? Well, like, we brought in a peace negotiator before we attacked them. At least we started attacking their ships and stuff. But so like, could you have a real worthy Nobel Peace laureate from Venezuela, opposed to Maduro? Absolutely, right? But then you read details and you're like she's encouraging the oil companies to take over Venezuela. She's like she seems to be in a couple of her comments egging on a coup against Venezuela. That's not peace. Look I don't know how you get rid of Maduro and I think that's Venezuela's business, not our business, right? And so if she's fighting back peacefully, Gandhi, Mandela type of thing, great, no problem. That's not the vibe I'm getting, right? And then she thanks Donald

Trump profusely and basically like welcoming him, like come to Venezuela. But Trump is killing maybe drug dealers, maybe fishermen, like randos, et cetera, to try to start a war with Venezuela. So that led me to the same conclusion that you were hinting out there, John. This seems like a compromise. Like we don't want to anger America so much and they want someone who likes war to win the peace prize, giving it to Trump would be absurd and would totally devalue. Like it would destroy the reputation of the prize.

They almost did that, by the way, when they gave it to Obama. Because they gave it to Obama on like day two of his administration when he hadn't done anything, right? So, so they couldn't do that, but they didn't want the blow, my guess is, I'm guessing, the blowback from picking someone who's actually for peace or against American interests. Instead they pick someone who's like, I'm kind of for peace, but I'm also kind of for the war that I want you to start. Yeah, and what if they like chose like, I don't know, the flotilla or something? And again, I'm laying out some speculation hypotheticals. I will say what I said on the damage report, I'm not a regional expert. I don't know basically anything about their politics and almost nobody admits that sort of thing.

I don't understand why you would avoid it. I think you should be forthright with your audience. I'm trying to learn as much as I can like everybody else is. In any event, let's give just a little bit more detail before we close out our conversation on this. What's interesting is that during the ongoing negotiations between the United States and Maduro, who based on what we're reading here, really does seem to worry that we're gonna launch an invasion, which is strange because Donald Trump is such a peace guy. But anyway, Maduro's apparently been offering massive concessions to the Trump administration,

including a dominant stake in Venezuela's oil and other mineral wealth in discussions that lasted for months. Again, remember that Donald Trump, despite being viciously opposed to socialism and communism, Now just routinely, the U.S. government takes stakes in individual corporations. That's now happened multiple times, and so I guess theoretically that's what we would do to avoid a war, except they didn't accept that. Maduro also offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slashes countries energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian, and Russian firms. But despite all of that, the Trump administration cut off all diplomatic efforts with them, which seems like hypothetically they think they can get a better deal somewhere else.

And that is already, I mean, that is a massive series of concessions. Like a case to be made that Venezuela would effectively be a client state of the United States after that. And that was not enough for the Trump administration. And Sue, who apparently is leading the way on moving away from diplomacy and to theoretically some sort of military conflict, it seems like Marco Rubio, which is strange because he's ahead of our diplomatic bureaucracy. But again, what does any of this mean? I guess by the time the Secretary of Defense becomes a Secretary of War, you also upgrade the Secretary of State to Secretary of Defense. It all moves in that direction. But in any way, any event,

as we've been randomly bombing ships without providing any evidence of what's on there, Rubio has apparently been taking intelligence provided by the CIA, pushing for a more aggressive strategy versus Venezuela. By now, by the way, we apparently have 6,500 troops in the area, and Rubio has for a very long time been an advocate of regime change, which is not necessarily what you want in the guy that's supposed to be holding the diplomatic cards. And so there's a lot there, a lot more we can get into. Any final thoughts, change? Yeah, it's obviously we want war. I mean, if you don't take that, that deal, what you're saying is I wouldn't have taken any deal. Because I just, I don't want

three half the pot, three quarters of the pot. I want the whole pot, right? So why is Maduro offering that deal? Because for a similar reason, he's like, I don't really care. I just want to stay in charge. Yeah. So these Americans look like they're going to invade me. And better for Venezuela, or worse for Venezuela, whatever, dude. Like if they invade, I don't stay in charge. If they don't invade, I do stay in charge. So it's not like I care about my own citizens. I mean, look at the country's a mess, right? So yeah, I'll give away their natural resources as long as I get to stay in power. So there are no good guys in this story, unfortunately. But the best point is the one John made. Marco Rubio was supposed to prevent war as Secretary of State, but instead he's

egging it on because they're all neocons. All they want is war. And remember, there's the oil companies and they've already admitted that they were negotiating. Gernel said, we are negotiating to get the oil companies better deals. I mean, it's unbelievable. How do you say that? Before you, they They used to hide that fact, right? But it's also the defense contractors who would make a ton of money from that war. So there's a lot of lobbyists pushing for that war, and that's why they turned down what seems to be an excellent offer. Yeah, I also think, you know, returning to the previous point, like Trump now needs to

cast his eyes ahead to the Nobel Peace Prize for 2026, and how do you get that? You end wars, and we already know that he counts him ending the US war with Iran as one of his wars he's ended, if he invades Venezuela, and then eventually ends that war, Nobel Peace Prize. It would work out for him. Anyway, we're gonna take our second break of the hour. We'll be back in a bit. Back on TYT, Jank, John and Iriam Rivera, Eriam, thanks for hitting that join button below. You're awesome, we appreciate it. I'm just gonna read one quick thing here.

Rob three Chasworth said in our member section on t.yt.com, give a shout out to Abby Phillip. She's a lonely voice on CNN, sympathetic to the Palestinians. So Abby Philip, great job, and she gives voice to Anna, et cetera. But I'm just gonna know for the record, not having anything to do with her. Not a single cable news anchor has called it a genocide. Not a single cable news anchor has opened up a debate

on whether we should continue to fund Israel. As, I mean, it's not stunning because we all know they're in the tank for Israel. But if, I mean, it proves it, it proves not one, there's no diversity of thought at all. Like not one of them thought, oh my God, the Palestinians, we should really should stop sending money to slaughter them. Not one thought that. No, no, no, no, the trope, trope, get the hell out of here. No, no, I feel like people planted tropes as like landmines. So if you criticize Israel in any way, oh, that's a trope, that's a trope.

Okay, no, so stay with your tropes. So show, how about tropes or Muslims? Can I get a trope? Can I get a trope? Okay, here's a trope. Muslims are violent. Muslims are terrorists. Oh, okay, every cable news anchor, totally guilty. 100% guilty every single time, right?

Where's my trope? Oh no, you don't count, you don't count. Only Israelis, people who like Israel count. Well, okay. Well, then kiss my ass. Well, oh, I'm supposed to care about you because you love Israel so much, but you don't have to care about me. You don't have to care about all those dead people? No, no, no, no. So off you go with your tropes. Anyway, go ahead. That comment about Abby Phillips set you off. I don't think that was the intent. Abby's great. Abby's great. But guys, but that's my point, though. Okay, last, super last thing, John. And we're doing this when we have no time. But look, I talk to a reporter. I'm definitely not going to give the outlet or the name, okay? Just within the last week. And same exact thing happened that happened every time. I'm like, we talk about the story, we talk about okay.

And she's like, I get it, it's a good point, et cetera. And this time, I didn't ask, she said it. She's like, well, we'll see what gets past my editoring into the story. It's the editors, it's the producers, it's the people at the top who are like, you are not to criticize Israel. If you do, your career is in jeopardy. That's why they don't say anything. All right, John.

Okay, well, let's talk about other countries we're sending money to. The Trump administration is apparently going ahead with a $20 billion bailout for the country of Argentina, which is very good news for a number of massive investors like Black Rock. We'll detail some others as well. But if you talk to the Trump administration, which is branded itself as being America first, and has told us all year there's no money for you. There's no money for your family or for your future. Suddenly your birth rate can be packaged up and sent off to Argentina.

No foreign aid, except if one of our allies needs a massive amount of money. And so they say it's not a bailout, they're pitching it in a different way. It doesn't seem particularly America first change. What do you think? Yeah, so all of a sudden we're allowed to help other countries as long as what? They kiss Donald Trump's ass. So wait till you see how often Argentina goes bankrupt and the potential disaster we're headed towards. Yeah, well kiss his ass and also provide us.

also provide a possible healthy return on investment for some of the people who've put Donald Trump at office. It's always the money. Oh, 100%. And not just the banks, so we'll talk about that in this second. Well, why don't we turn to Scott Besant, Secretary of the Treasury, who was on Laura Ingram's show because every member of the Trump administration is obligated to be on cable news at least once per day. And so there he was explaining why the Trump administration wants to transfer this massive amount of money to Argentina. Take a look. viewers, what is going on with Argentina? Because the U.S. Treasury today directly purchased Argentine pesos and finalized this $20 billion currency swap framework with Argentina's

central bank. So the intent, I guess, is to provide assistance from the Latin American country's economic turmoil. It's clear how Argentina benefits from this deal. What do we get out of it? We get a lot out of it. Argentina is a beacon in Latin America. President, Malay has done the right things. He is trying to break a hundred years of a bad cycle in Argentina. He is also a great ally for the US. He'll be coming to the Oval Office next Tuesday. And he is committed to getting China out of Argentina. They're all over the place in Latin America. We have an interesting little twist on that comment. So remember that. But as we said, they do not want you to think of this as a bailout. They want to have you think that somehow

we're going to get any of this money back. And so here is how he says it is actually America first to transfer all this money. People say to me, how is this not America first? I'll tell you why it's not. Do you want to be shooting at more gunboats like in Venezuela? We do not want a failed state. So this isn't a bailout? Sorry, it's not a bailout at all. There's no money being being transferred, the ESF has never lost money. It's not going to lose money here. I've been doing, I was in the investment business, mostly currencies for 40 years. You're supposed to buy low, sell high. And the Argentine peso is undervalued. We're going to have an election in Argentina, 26 of this month. We think President Malay will do quite well. Argentina is rich

in rare earths and rich in uranium. And I think they are committed to U.S. private companies coming in and being good partners with them. And he gives a little smile at the end there because of course the PR part is explaining how it's somehow America first to do that. But the whole point of it, of course, is that the corporations will do well. It's like when they give massive tax cuts to the billionaires. And the money goes to the billionaires. That happens. And they tell you, well, it'll trickle down. It doesn't matter to them if that ever happens. They got their money. In this case, the corporations are going to get their money.

Will it help out America? Maybe, we'll see, we'll We'll see, we'll roll the dice, find out in a few years. But the corporations always get paid. They get paid first. And so that includes investment firms that are heavily invested in Argentina, like Black Rock Fidelity, Pimco, Stanley Drucken Miller, Robert Citrone, have worked with Bacent actually when he was an investor for George Soros, which was the most interesting little tidbit in this story.

And so look, there's a lot of different investors that hypothetically want Argentina. to be stabilized and they like this guy they talk about it being a thing that's supposed to benefit the country but they really do seem focused on this dude who's he's on CPAC stages with Donald Trump with Elon Musk and all that they've always liked this particular guy and so we can talk more about the bailout jank but i want to give you a chance to jump in and talk about some of the substance yeah i mean he just told you all of it right he said oh they're going to be open for business this is going to be have u.s companies do really well we're going to kick out china what that means is we're going to kick out chinese companies

and put in, by the way, U.S. companies, they're not actually U.S. companies. They're all international corporations. Their owners or stockholders from all across the world. Their executives are actually from all across the world. They just pretend to be U.S. companies. Oh, we're based in the U.S. So what? How does that help the average American?

It doesn't help at all. Oh, no, like ExxonMobil. What a great American company. So that's why they extract the oil from America, for example, we're the number one oil producer. And they only sell it in, oh, no, I'm, I know they sell it all across the world and they don't care. And they're like, oh, we need energy independence.

What is that? That's not a thing, right? Because ExxonMobil is not part of the US government. They sell the oil everywhere. It's about making more money for the companies. And Besson just described it to you very, very, very clearly. He didn't say anything about the American people. He just said the bankers are going to get paid. The other companies are going to come in and they're going to get paid.

And the whole point of Scott Besson is to not represent the American people, but to represent the corporate world. And that's what the Treasury Secretary has been my whole lifetime. The Treasury Secretary is supposed to look out for us and be a steward of taxpayer money. My whole life, Democratic and Republican, I mean, Larry Summers and Geithner on the Democratic side, everyone on the Republican side. Oh, yeah, the corporation stock market stock corporations, invade, invade. And John, that brings us back to, so look at the two last two stories.

we covered. Venezuela and Argentina. Venezuela is not doing business with us, and they have a lot of oil, and most of the drugs actually come from Colombia and Mexico, right? And I don't want to invade them either, but they're like, oh, we are really worried about. What are we worried about? And what's our excuse here? Oh, drugs, right, right, of course. Oh, drugs, we must topple their government and put in government that is more favorable to multinational corporations in our hemisphere. And, oh, Argentina, we don't need to topple you because you're already kissing our then here's a free $20 billion for you. Now you're gonna have to pay it back. And by the way, so are they going to pay it back? Argentina's declared bankruptcy five different times.

That's Trump levels. Exactly, Joe. You took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna say they're kind of the Trump of the world in terms of countries. Like they never pay their debts. They used to be really wealthy. In the early 1900s, they were actually one of the wealthiest nations. They lost everything five different times. I mean, they are like, no one of wonder he likes him. And then they elected a guy who might be even more clownish than Trump. Like, so Trump's like, oh my God, they love to go bankrupt. And they do dirty deals with companies. And they got a madman as their president. I love these guys. Give him $20 billion. Right. And probably get a Trump tower out of it. So. And guys, you all know, this is no,

no part of this is in any way America first. In fact, we have a poll about it on t.com. If you had to pick which you prefer, America first or Trump's current foreign policy, which one would it be? America first or Trump? Now, I'm saying that because you're like, wait, I'm not sure I want either one of those, right? But right now, those are the two choices, because Trump is totally abandoned America first. He's like, we're sending troops to Israel, we're giving the Qataris, at least a training ground, if not a base in Idaho. We're gonna go and look at that, America first is kicking Trump's ass. On a progressive show, okay.

And we're going to bail out the Argentinians. We're going to invade the Venezuelans. What are you going to actually do something that helps us here? Like, I got it. The companies, companies, corporations need power in Venezuela and Argentina and all these other places. Okay. How about here? Over here, you're supposed to be president of the United States of America.

So in that regard, I think it's a disaster. Yeah, and I'll just mention, $20 billion out the door, no debate, no discussion, it's gone. How many cuts did they do earlier this year? Your health care, we can't afford to continue these ACA subsidies. You guys got to pay two, three, four times as much for your health insurance. There's just no money. There's no money. There's money for them.

By the way, Trump is now doing those new shutdown mass firings. They apparently just cleared out. There's part of the Department of Education is the, it's like the Bureau of, I think it's like primary and secondary schools. It's like 300 people that deal with primary and secretary education. They fired literally every person there. Helps to deal with your kids. Your kids are in school, they need help, they need aid, whatever. Gone, can't afford it, just can't do it.

$20 billion because it's my ally. I guess, yeah. You know what? That's how it always works here. One last quick thing guys. So look at how things are played, right? So you've got Venezuela that's in economic trouble and Argentina that's an economic trouble. But if you play ball with our companies, we give you a gift of $20 billion and we try to lift you out

out of that economic mess you're in. But if you don't play a ball with our companies, then we crush you with sanctions so that your people are driven into poverty and then blame you, right? So that you go, well, I guess you need a revolution, I guess you need a coup, so that we could be back in charge. So this is the same old dirty politics we've been playing in Latin America forever and ever and ever. It's just a new and not improved version.

If I could just one last, last thing, we crush your economy, we make everyone desperate, And when some of them come here for economic opportunities, we badmouth them, we bad mouth their country, and we use that to radicalize even more of our own voters. It's like a perfect circle they've got set up. Yes, and when we come back is circumcision causing autism.