The Young Turks - Omarosa Lets Katrina Pierson Lie Before Proving It On Tape, FBI Agent Peter Strzok Fired

Episode Date: August 14, 2018

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Okay, okay. I get to talk about Mick Mulvaney. Finally, the Mick. No, yeah. There's stuff that we got to get to. Okay, so we need to do it in one second. I just want everybody to remember tonight's election night. So at 8 o'clock Eastern 805, we're going to go on air.

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Okay. All right. Do you think anyone gets that reference anymore? It is so old. It's so old. It's so old. But it's so good. Those were the golden days. I know. You know what that was? That was the golden days of America. Okay. All right. We move forward. Casper, take it away. Yes. Recently, Donald Trump signed the Defense Reauthorization Act, and in that signing ceremony and in his speech, he applauded himself and his White House for doing more for our troops and for our veterans. But the reality is that there are a number of regulations that are put in place in order to protect our troops from predatory lending that the Trump administration wants to do away with. And recently, they have done away with something that would protect them, something known as the Military Lending Act.

They have decided to stop supervising financial institutions that continuously prey on our soldiers. Okay, so let me give you the details of what's going on. First, there's Mick Mulvaney. He is the interim director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. That is the very bureau that is supposed to be supervising predatory lenders to ensure that they're not going after our troops and essentially pressuring them to take out loans that they can't afford, loans that usually have incredibly high interest rates. Well, the Bureau's supervisory staff typically conducted these checks to make sure that the lenders aren't charging military

members exorbitant interest rates, pushing them into forced arbitration, or otherwise not following guidelines outlined in the Military Lending Act, a 2006 law that protects active duty military members and their families from financial fraud, predatory loans, and credit gouging. So now the CFPB is saying, yeah, we're not really going to supervise anymore, you know, like we're just going to let these lenders do what they want to do. It's true. It's Omarosa has it on tape. They sound exactly like that.

They don't have, no, Amorosa doesn't have it on tape. But we do have tape featuring Mick Mulvaney very openly sharing what his thoughts on. on the CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, remember, he is the temporary head of the agency while the Trump administration looks for someone to take his place. And so during Senate hearings, here is what Mick Mulvaney had to say about the CFPB. Do you still believe that CFPB is a sad, sick joke? Yes, sir, I do. And I'll be happy to tell you why. It is, to me, sir, one of the most offensive concepts, I think, in a representative government,

which is almost completely unaccountable government bureaucracy. So Mick Mulvaney goes to the CFPB. Again, this is an agency that's incredibly important. It was put together after the financial collapse in 2008 in order to protect consumers from predatory lending, right? And Mick Mulvaney goes in there and he's like, yeah, don't like any. of this, dismantling it, sorry. And so that's what he's doing right now. And so don't be fooled when you hear that the administration cares about our military,

cares about the troops, cares about our veterans. No, they don't. They care about the very financial institutions that fund their campaigns. Mick Mulvaney's top donors include payday lenders. And so, of course he's going to want to deregulate. Of course he's going to want to stop supervising and protecting our troops from these predatory lenders. I mean, it's, it's, of course, going to happen. So, okay, first of all, the whole point is to protect consumers. So if you're a Republican, are you proud, oh, we're not protecting

consumers anymore? Okay, if you say, well, the average American, I don't give a damn about them, let the bankers crush them, I don't know what kind of conservative you are. It's not really a conservative position. But in this case, it's veterans. And these scumbags, Lenders, that's what they are, target veterans at four times the rate of an average citizen. So when you see a veteran, you see someone you respect and that sacrifice for their country. When they see a veteran, they see a target. They see a mark. And Mick Mulvaney just came in and said, have at it, Haas. You want to target veterans? There are a lot of veterans that are live it over this.

And Army Colonel Paul Cantwell, for example, said, why do you think we have people standing guard in the military? And what he just did was he just took the people that were standing guard off the guard and just let people run in and defraud our veterans anyway they like, basically. And that's his job. And why is it his job? Who pays his bills? The payday lenders, the predatory lenders, pay Mulvaney's campaign.

donations. He works for them. He doesn't work for you. You think he cares about veterans? No, he cares about his donors. That's the only thing he cares about. And it's not just veterans. Veterans are certainly included in, you know, these predatory tactics. But this also involves active duty members of our military who oftentimes are very young. They're out of high school. They have no credit history. And so since they're so young and financially inexperienced, they are a prime target of these payday lenders, of these, you know, predatory lenders, of these institutions. And so this military act of 2006 was so important. And luckily, it's still in place. And the whole point of that was to ensure that these scumbags don't continuously target them with insanely

high unaffordable interest rates. And so in 2015, the Obama administration really did beef up that regulation to ensure that the CFPB was supervising these organizations. organizations to prevent them from, you know, just moot, leaching off of our military. By the way, the Bureau now says that it will only be able to take action against lenders when it receives a complaint. So they're not going to do anything unless, you know, you go through the insane bureaucracy of reaching out to them and filing a complaint. Yeah, and by that time, as some of the veterans and their advocates are pointing out,

It's too late. Your life's already been ruined. They've already foreclosed on your house. They've already taken everything you have, et cetera. Now, I'm going to tell you in a second how much money that the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau had saved veterans and Anna's right, active service members as well. Okay, so it's a startling number. That's a number that the bankers had ripped them off of, and the Consumer Financial

Protection Bureau gave them back, okay? And so I'm going to say that for you in just a second. But I understand that's what they do. They look out for the service. service members. So the Military Lending Act, which was in place, but actually when you proactively regulate as was happening in this case, it helped you to enforce the Military Lending Act. And that's why the bankers hated it, because it couldn't more effectively rip off people

who'd served in the military, which again, they found to be really easy marks. So for whatever reason. What the guidelines were, you can't charge military members an annual interest rate of more than 36%. So it's not a tough standard. 36% interest rate is gigantic. Donald Trump bankrupted Taj Mahalik because he took an interest a loan that had too high an interest rate.

You know what it was? 14%. And it was totally untenable and unsustainable. But yet they're willing to charge that to our service members and to average American citizens. And we're keeping him down to 36%. If we didn't have this law, they sometimes charge up to 300%. Right.

So then the other provisions, they can't push them into force arbitration, because force arbitration is rigged in favor of corporations oftentimes. They can't require them to allot portions of paychecks to pay back their loans. So that means they would just start taking it out of the service members' checks. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The Republic or UNFTR. As a young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom.

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Jedi training or you're uprooting and exposing all the propaganda and disinformation you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. If they couldn't pay it back. But they might need that money for food for their family, for rent, otherwise they might be homeless, et cetera. But they would just grab their paychecks, and the military lending act prohibited that, okay? And then the last one was creditors can't charge a penalty for early payment. Now, that's mental.

If I have the money and I'm willing to pay you so I don't have to keep paying that ridiculous interest rate, why can't I just pay you? They said, no, I'm gonna charge you a penalty for being a good guy and paying ahead of time. You know why? Because they want their interest. Yes, because they want to rob you blind. So the Military Lending Act is great, and what is it? regulation to protect veterans and service members.

So then on top of that, it was regulated in a way that they didn't wait for your life to be ruined. They were proactive. So what did that do? How much did that save? Let's go to Graphics 6. Okay. Proponents of the system say that it worked out well.

And they say that the agency says it delivered more than $130 million in relief to service members says 2011 and handled more than 71,000 consumer complaints from that and their families is also taking enforcement actions after discovering lenders that broke the law. So several layers of regulation that you see there. What is the point of regulation? It is just laws meant to protect you. So you do regulation so that your local plant can't put toxic liquid into the nearby stream which your kids swim in.

That's a regulation. In this case, you regulate the predatory lenders so they don't prey on our service members. That's regulation. You could do it before, in the middle, and after in there's different gradations of it. And now Mick Mulvaney and the Trump administration said, yeah, don't worry about it. Let's see if they catch them afterwards, they'll catch him for a lot less. That's $130 million those lenders are going to rob from our service members. Do you support the troops or don't you support the troops?

And the reality is, progressives actually care about them. They're American citizens, and they signed up to protect us, et cetera. So we want to protect them. And what do conservatives say? And I don't think it's real conservatives, to be fair to conservatives. I think it's the corrupt Republican politicians. They go, yeah, I don't give a damn about those people. It's a punchline for us.

That ribbon you put on your car, support our trips, don't care. These guys pay our bills. Bankers pay my bills. Bankers, go rob them, go rob them. So they saved $130 million for you guys. You think bankers pay, with all their army of lawyers, you think they pay $130 million because they didn't do it? So they're going to do it again, and they're going to rob them again because they just

took the cops off the street. That's what these guys are. Mick Mulvaney is one of the most corrupt people we've ever had in government. Drain to swamp my ass. This is exactly what the swamp is. And by the way, the Military Lending Act is wonderful. Why doesn't it apply to all of us? Yeah, it's a great point.

That's a great point. And look, the whole point of the CFPB was to protect all of us. But I got to give credit to Elizabeth Warren. The CFPB was her idea. And she did grill Mick Mulvaney rather aggressively during Senate hearings. And what you're about to watch is an example of all the different ways Mulvaney has gone after the CFPB. Take a look. In 2012, you voted in favor of...

a Republican budget that called for eliminating the agency entirely. Is that right? I don't have a specific recollection, but that sounds familiar to me. Sounds familiar. Okay, but that was only the beginning. You also voted for Republican budgets that eliminated the CFPB in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Does that sound right? Again, yes, ma'am. There were occasional Republican budgets. I didn't vote for it. I don't know what was in them, but generally speaking, I see your point. Yes, ma'am. All right. And in 2015, you also supported a standalone bill that would have killed off the CFPB. That's correct.

I think it was a co-sponsor of that. Yeah, he is now that you're in-term head of the CFPB, which is fitting for the Trump administration. Why do you think they want to destroy the organization that protects consumers? Come on, man, get your head out of your ass. If you're a MAGA guy, you're getting that red hat dirty. Okay, get your head out of your ass. They're not here to protect you. They're here to protect their donors.

Come on, man, it's brazen. It's like, you want to protect consumers from bankers? No, we're the Republican Party. We love bankers. There's no other explanation. Oh, you think, oh, the banks are too regulated. Poor predatory lenders! What if they can't rip off service members and charge them 300% interest rate?

Poor, poor payday lenders. Does anyone in the country believe that? Anyone? You think that the victims are the bankers and the real thugs who, shouldn't be protected, are service members and veterans? Is that what you think? Okay, fine, and I guess you're that kind of animal. So Mick Mulvaney, one of the most corrupt guys, Donald Trump, who appointed him,

appointed him to be that corrupt, and he's very happy with him, to destroy any protection that whether it's service members or any U.S. citizens get from the guys on Wall Street who want to rob you blind, have done it before, and now they're going to get to do it even more. Yeah. Well, let's go from one disastrous administration official to another one. Ben Carson has announced that he would like to roll back Obama-era fair housing rules. Now, Carson is the head of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the whole point of that organization is to protect people in the United States, ensure that they have fair housing, affordable housing, but Carson wants to do the opposite.

So he announced that HUD had formally begun the process of revamping the affirmatively furthering fair housing rule, a July 2015 regulation that had required communities and local governments receiving federal funding to identify and address any barriers to fair housing like racial segregation. So there are racial segregation issues, a lot of these issues do have. a lot to do with socioeconomic status. Minorities tend to have less income than white individuals, for instance. So you'll see segregation as a result of that in various communities.

And so the Obama administration wanted to address that and ensure that there were affordable housing options in all communities. And Ben Carson wants to do away with that. So HUD announced in January that it was suspending the obligation of most local governments to comply with the rule until 2020 or, in many cases, 2025. Also, the Trump administration plans to pivot away from the efforts to integrate lower income housing into wealthier neighborhoods and instead push for an increase in housing supply overall.

So I want to stop right there. This is an argument that I see all over the place from politicians, both Democrat and Republican. And the argument is there's low supply. and as a result, housing prices are skyrocketing, but that is not what's happening. Oftentimes, the new developments are not affordable housing developments. Oftentimes, they are luxury condos, they are luxury apartments. Places like downtown Los Angeles, for instance, have a very high vacancy rate because

they've built all these luxury apartments that no one can afford, right? So it's a way that developers actually weirdly save money because they can claim that There was a loss or whatever it is in their taxes. In California, in Los Angeles specifically, all new developments are expected to have some affordable housing integrated, which is great. Do you know how many of those units have to be affordable? 15%. 15%.

That's it, 15%. 15% is not going to help get people off the streets in Los Angeles. We have a huge homeless issue in this city. But anyway, just wanted to address that because it's all BS. When they say, oh, we need new developments, there are always luxury developments that no one can afford. So along those lines, I actually talked to a fairly wealthy businessman over the weekend. And you know what he said in response to what Anna said? She's 100% right.

Thank you. Okay. Yes. Yes. I've been, yes. Okay. So he said, well, I see what's happening here. They're building a whole bunch of housing.

And it's for people like me who can afford it. And what do they get? They get tax credits. Why are they getting tax credits for housing that we're going to buy or rent anyway? So why do they need tax credits to build housing for wealthy people? That doesn't make any sense. And he said, you know how many homeless people are on my block? He said, five.

They live there. They live on the streets. So where's their housing? The problem isn't that rich people in Los Angeles don't have enough housing. The problem is that poor people don't have enough housing. So it's now, what does the Trump administration do? First of all, of course, they get an African-American guy to go and say, do you really need fair housing? It's a nice little trick, right?

Hide behind minorities. So, look, the Democratic Party does it from time to time, too, okay? But in this case, it's the Republican Party doing it fairly brazenly. To me, if he had made a case for, look, here's my economic model for why more housing is going to lower prices, and let me show you three models where it worked, right? Here's where it worked in Portland or San Antonio, et cetera. Well, I'd say, okay, you know, I don't think that's a crazy idea. Now, Anna, it makes a good point that it hasn't worked out that way at all. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control

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It is one of the most understated donors in the country. They don't get talked about that often. They contribute a lot of the state and local level. And in return, they get billions of dollars of tax credits and don't actually have to give you any affordable housing. Yes. And finally, that quote that Anna read for you is to me the most critical one. that they plan to, quote, pivot away from efforts to integrate lower income housing into

wealthier neighborhoods. Yeah. They're like, yeah, we're done with it. We're not, this is, HUD is supposed to be for, not for rich people. It's supposed to be for working poor, middle class to help you to get housing. And here they are, they're saying, we're pivoting away from that. What are you pivoting to that? No, no, but Carson is brazen in, you know, just his utter disregard.

for low-income communities. Let's go to Graphic 12. This is another quote. Carson has denounced government efforts to desegregate housing in America as, quote, failed socialist experiments. Yeah. Because, you know, in the South, when there was segregation, it probably would have worked out on its own. You know, I'm sure that at some point they would be like, wait, why are we keeping African-Americans out of the pools and out of the diners and out of the homes and out of the schools? I golly, gee, I don't know, why don't we just change our mind out?

Well, you know, we tried that for a couple hundred years. We tried that on slavery for a couple hundred years. It turns out they didn't change their mind. We tried it on during the Jim Crow years, and then through all throughout 100 years after slavery. And it turns out they don't just change their mind and go, hey, you know what, let's move into black neighborhoods. And let's have blacks move into our neighborhoods. No, it turns out you had to do desegregation. And this guy, the puppet that he is, gets hired to come.

Come out there and go, um, when he's awake, um, I don't think we should do desegregation. Notice that I am black, so it's okay. Don't do desegregation anymore. Let's not forget the aspect of housing. It's also happening cities like L.A. As housing, in least building and revamping committees, spreads to South L.A., to now Engwood and next is Compton. This is just local right now.

I'm sure it's happening to every other city. So then usually what people considered was black and brown communities will get run by all these housing increases, further pushing people out even further. So it's actually the opposite effect that's happening. We're talking about how possibly they're going, pivoting away from desegregation and not bringing anything. The talk about low income housing, the mindset is that all these are like, these are projects or something. We're talking about a place people can just live in. Everyone's not just homeless on the streets and trying to get into a place and then squat. We're talking about just normal living situations because of all these jobs that Trump is touted

and that he's done for the black and brown community in his whole two years in office. What does that do if people being able to live where they are? Instead, the opposite effect is happening. People getting pushed further and further out. Transportation to get to these places is even harder. Maybe get to work. Everything is affected by where you live. We know how that works.

But if the continuing advantages are given to people who have all of the advantages already, now no one else can get anything else. And it's their fault. and not for getting pushed out. No, you just made such a great point that I didn't even consider in the context of this article. You know, people like Ben Carson and, you know, the wealthy donors, they're worried about low-income individuals infiltrating their rich neighborhoods. But what's really happening throughout the country, and especially in Los Angeles,

is that, you know, wealthier people are infiltrating poor neighborhoods and gentrifying it and pushing low-income people out of the neighborhoods that they've lived in their entire lives. Now look, gentrification is a difficult, complex issue. It's not all good or all bad, but there is a housing crisis in the country right now. And the way that they're handling it is only exacerbating this issue. Yeah, and JR and I had a great conversation about gentrification in one of the old school episodes. If you're remembering it all the old school episodes, t.yt.com slash join to become a member, get all of our shows.

And it partly depends. The reason Anna says it's not all bad is if you're a homeowner in place like Compton and there's gentrification, your prices went up. If you're a renter, you're in trouble, you're gone. And then you got to move hours away from LA to be able to afford any housing at all. So it pushes poor people further and further away. I remember we had affordable housing in East Brunswick, the suburb that I grew up in in New Jersey.

Nobody exploded, there was no problems, right? And it helped to create a diverse background where people were friends with each other from different, you know, we had middle class, we had rich people there, we had poor people. And it's fine, but people are so obsessed with, no, all mine, all mine. And that's why they get guys like Ben Carson to do their bidding. And it's gross. I'll reiterate again, these poor housing, people that can't afford housing, is suddenly their community has houses that are $800,000. And like, oh, I can't afford that. And they go, oh, you schlep, that's the thought process.

We don't know the numbers behind it. $800,000, talking about minimum in these communities now. It's not the case of, it's not the case that you're a lazy ass and you don't know how to do anything. It's that you're not able to afford nearly a million dollar houses. Think about that across the country, about how that works. Who has a 20% down payment for an $800,000 house laying around? Who does? It's absurd.

It's a lower income neighborhood. It's preposterous. So, and that's how gentrification works. And so, but on the upside now, we will get bankers who could now sing, straight out of Compton. Straight into Compton. Yeah, that's right, straight into Compton. On a Bentley. All right, we got to take a break when we come back.

More stories for you, including Trump's recent attack on Jeff Sessions. Back on a young Turks, plenty of comments here. Let me go to Twitter first. Dragon Lady Racer says, the fact that we have a separate law to protect service people from these types of lenders, besides the ones against all consumers, shows just how bad these type of bankers are. How is doing away with the Consumer Protection Bureau not a big deal for the Republican voters? They have debt too.

Yeah. But that's the thing. I mean, they vote against their own self-interest all the time. They have no idea. I think it's the power of propaganda. I mean, you have to think about the bubble that, you know, people live in, where they get their news. You watch Fox News, and all you hear is that the biggest threat to Americans are the others, right? And so that's a great distraction.

So people aren't paying attention to the people who are really screwing them over. Yep, Carly Wynne writes in, that man in the hat with mustache doing the Monopoly Man cosplay in the background there, hilarious. Thank you. I mean, we were too worked up in that segment to note. how funny that was, but he was doing a great job. And I. I. Papito writes in, or is it I'm me? Anyway, they're building these luxury apartments like we're getting paid a livable wage. Good point, and we are unfortunately not.

That guy that does stuff writes in on YouTube Super Chat. Remember it? That clip is classic gold. Yes, who said that? You should play that on Old School this week. It can be used not only as a tool but as a weapon. Yes. So those are great points.

And I'd like to note for the record that, um, uh, where is it? I had it. Uh, I can't be. I can't find it, so I just played a random. Yes. Who's dead yet? Thank you. Gonzales?

I'm coming. I'm coming. That's right. That's right. Drastic times require what? Drastic measures? Drastic measures? Yes.

Go shit dance. Draft drastic times require drastic measures. Okay, last one. Tell your friends, tell your neighbors. John Randy Gonzalez, I'm coming. I'm coming. Yes. All right, we'll break out more of that on old school.

Okay, so t.yt.com slash join to become a member. Stephen Michael Davis says, please put a setting on the app for one and a half speed. We will look into that. I'll put that on the list, brother. And then Zach Minnitz says Trump and his cabinet act like the age. disdain poor people. Truth is they love poor people. Poor people are desperate and easier to control. Unfortunately, there is some truth in that, at least within certain demographics in the country. All right. Let's go forward. All right. The FBI has fired Peter Struck. He was the

FBI agent who was caught sending text messages, anti-Trump text messages, to a lawyer for the FBI by the name of Lisa Page. And so he did testify in front of our lawmakers, and the Trump administration has been going after him aggressively. An investigation found that his anti-Trump bias played no role in the Russia investigation. He was immediately taken off of that investigation as soon as Bob Mueller knew about the text messages. But Trump is capitalizing off of the whole Peter Strzuck story.

And I believe is using this to further push for certain members of this investigation to get fired. So let me give you some of the recent tweets. And then also we'll talk a little bit about how he's attacking Jeff Sessions again. So Trump had tweeted that fired FBI agent Peter Struck is a fraud, as is the rigged investigation he started. There was no collusion or obstruction with Russia. And everybody, yeah, yeah, about that. Oh, so bored. Jesus, stop tweeting the same thing, you maniac.

He's tweeted that like a million goddamn times. All right. So, by the way, just this quick side note, there has been a GoFundMe page for Peter Struck, and he was able to raise, or at least this page, was able to raise $300,000 in less than a day and a half. I'm sure the number has increased since we last checked. Also, Trump had tweeted, they were all in on it, meaning struck and all that. Hillary Clinton and clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump for things he didn't do.

Greg Jarrett on Fox and Friends, if we had a real attorney general, this witch hunt would never have been started looking at the wrong people. Okay, so that was his response to a Fox News segment. He's watching, he's live tweeting. You know, he's not TYT live tweeting, but he's tweeting to Fox News. Yeah, and so in that tweet, he went after Jeff Sessions. Okay, so there's two parts of the story. One is the firing of Peter Strzok.

I think he's a terrible idea. What does it do? It encourages them. So far, Donald Trump has attacked James Comey and then fired him. Then he attacked Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, who was fired. Now Peter Strach, attacked by Donald Trump, fired. What are you doing? You're just encouraging the monster.

So everyone he's wrongly attacking, you go, okay, yeah, I don't want it to be a distraction. I don't want the president to tweet about it. That's the reality. You think Christopher Ray looked at this and was like, oh, I think what Peter Stark did was so bad. He had a political opinion. All right, great, then why don't you fire almost everyone in the FBI? Well, how many people in the FBI voted for Obama? How many of them voted against Obama?

By all accounts, the majority of FBI agents are Republicans. So should we fire every Republican in the building? Did they ever say anything bad about Obama in their private lives, instructed in his private life? My guess is overwhelmingly. So we're going to go on a witch hunt and fire everyone who says something bad about Obama? Or Hillary Clinton? Are you kidding me?

You'd have to fire most of the FBI probably at that point. How about Bernie Sanders? Peter Strzok had terrible things to say about Bernie Sanders. I think Bernie Sanders is a great candidate. Do I think Strz should be fired for that? No. Because, of course, they have political opinions. So all they did was they take those texts and they blew them out of proportion.

And it's so obviously, brazenly political. And the fact that we have to have these nonsense conversations as if we're not adults and we don't know what's going on. And then they get encouraged by Christopher Ray, you schmuck, they're looking to fire and imprison you. Do you know that? The director of the FBI is, of course, a Republican, Chris Ray, okay? He's the one that just fired struck. Jerry Falwell Jr. is talking about how he should be imprisoned. Not just fired, imprisoned.

So go ahead, encourage them like an idiot. How many times have we gotten, seen this movie? Now it's Republicans doing it. Usually it's Democrats who are like, oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. Even though you're totally wrong and I'm totally right, I'll fire the person. I'll get rid of them because it's a distraction. It's such cowardice and weakness. So, all right, so it's the Republicans that are doing it now at the FBI.

They'll come for you next, you idiot. Now, let's go to the tweet. Not the same thing about collusion, but the other one where he says, I wish we had a real attorney general. I mean, we've gotten used to a lunatic for president, an absolute lunatic. In my lifetime, I've covered politics for several decades now. No president. It attacks his own attorney general in public.

That's insane. That's insane. And says, you're not a real attorney general. And what did he call? He's called him weak and ineffectual, et cetera, over the weekend. Who does that? What kind of maniac does that? And, okay, put aside the fact that he's clearly, mentally unstable.

Put that aside for a second. We're putting that aside for the president of the United States. Okay. Now, the second part of it is, hey, come on, man. Unless you're a totally dishonest actor or a sad, pathetic, brainwashed magad dude. Okay, why do you think if he hates Sessions so much that he's not firing him? If he was worried about Sessions for other reasons, not to cover his own ass, but he's concerned that he's not doing a job, good job as Attorney General.

Does Donald Trump not know how to fire people? I thought that's how he got famous by firing people on Apprentice. He's fired plenty of people from the White House. Why didn't he just fired Jeff Sessions? He doesn't fire him because it's obviously to cover up for his crimes. And he would be charged with obstruction of justice if he fired his own attorney general where the Justice Department was investigating him. I mean, he would fire Jeff Sessions simply because Jeff Sessions recused himself.

And so, and that is why he keeps insulting him, trying to get him to quit so that he could say, well, in fire Sessions, okay, he happened to quit. And I happen to find some lackey, I don't, he's out of Lackys, a lot of them have turned on him, maybe Rudy Giuliani, maybe he'll appoint one of his idiot sons or something. Okay, Donald Trump Jr. is the new attorney general. Guess what? He fires Rosenstein and he fires Mueller. I'm cleared. You can't see this as political. If you can't see this as pathetic, political, you're in one of a couple of categories. One is you're a MAGA guy who just doesn't care. You're a loser. And all you care about is, my guy, my guy, my guy, uh. And you

don't care about facts at all, you're pathetic. Or there's a lot of folks in the mainstream media who are like, he says this and she says that, I don't know, I don't know why they fired Struck, I don't know why they want to fire sessions. Look, a lot of them point out that there's a good reason why he's threatening sessions and trying to bully him, et cetera. But overall, even they're pulling their punches. It's super obvious what's happening.

And when they pull their punches, we get into a false debate. This isn't a debate. Donald Trump clearly wants to end the investigation. He says it every goddamn day. It's an investigation of him. If the FBI was investigating you, do you think you could just end it? Like, hey, you know what, I'm tired of this? Yeah, you could just fire the people doing the investigation.

Yeah, well, hey, the FBI's looking into me for what, money laundering or doing whatever other nefarious acts, I fire you. Or you try to somehow get the prosecutor fired. That would obviously be obstruction of justice. and you go to prison for a long, long time. I'm so tired of it. Yeah, me too. You know what, let's take a quick break.

When we come back, an update on the whole Amarosa debacle, she has a new tape, and this time it has to do with racial slurs. We'll be right back. You're right in the middle of this podcast. We've got another great segment coming up for you. If you'd like the full show, which is actually five segments, go to t-y-tnetwork.com slash join. You become a member, you support the show, you support independent media, and you get the whole two-hour show ad-free every day. Let's go do it now. All right, back on Young Turks, Jenkinana.

By the way, these are the stories that apparently did not get me that worked up, although I seem pretty worked up. Yeah, you're super like on edge today, I feel like. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know why. Okay. I just get frustrated, man. I hear you.

The morons on the right who are like, and I, look, sometimes I want to reach out the conservatives because we're going to get money out of politics together. On the other hand, they're like, oh, yeah, the FBI had a conspiracy to make sure Donald Trope didn't win. Then why did he win? Oops. No logic. None.

Zero. Why did the FBI announce the reopening of the investigation on Hillary Clinton, like, very close to the election date? To absolutely torpedo or chances. If there was a conspiracy, it was the most incompetent one in American history. Okay, anyway, gaming Pegasus 187 writes on Twitter, if you ever wanted a case study on how to look like the guiltiest man on the planet, read Trump's Twitter. And then he adds, God help you. I will say, though, I get a lot of satisfaction from reading his tweets and really understanding how much pain he's in.

Oh, that's an interesting one. He's worried. He's worried. The panicky tweets are great. He is stressed 24-7. Yeah. That's good. You made me feel a little better.

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The Trump administration is attempting to censor Amorosa, Manningold Newman, in a panic. And they're doing so through a potential arbitration suit. So Trump's campaign has filed arbitration against former White House aide Amarosa, Men. and Galt Newman, alleging that she violated a non-disclosure agreement by publishing a tell-all book. She's also releasing audio recordings, secret audio recordings that she had recorded while she was at the White House. And they don't like it because it doesn't make the Trump administration look particularly

good. But the question of whether or not they can enforce an NDAA is kind of up in the air, because we're talking about the government, we're not talking about a private business. business. And so do non-disclosure agreements hold any weight? Are they binding in this scenario? Legal analysts are kind of wishy-washy and answering that question. So we'll see what happens with that.

But there are newer audio tapes that are being released now that I want to get to. All right, real quick clarification on that. Amarosa says she did sign the NDA during the campaign, okay. But it's a confidentiality agreement during the campaign, but that she did not sign one leaving the White House. That they offered her, and this is interesting, $15,000 a month position, which is considerable amount of money, to go to work on Trump's reelection campaign. So what I got out of that story, she did not sign that, okay?

What I got out of that story is everyone on Trump's reelection campaign has dirt on Donald Trump. They're the ones that have, you know, maybe they were incompetent and had to be moved out of the White House, maybe there were snakes, I don't know what they were, but they have some sort of dirt on Donald Trump, so they moved all of them and pay them a ton of money that comes from donors and from Republican small donors as well, and it's used to pay off these people to stay quiet. Right. And look, I'm obviously no fan of Amrosa, I think she's just like Donald Trump, I got

no use for her. But I guess, I mean, it's a little bit of credit that she didn't take the payoff. Probably because she thought she was going to make more money from the book, et cetera, but at least she didn't take the payoff. Right. So she had previously said that she was going to hold off before releasing any more audio because she was concerned that there were some legal ramifications for what she was doing. But apparently that thought was short-lived because Today, she released some new audio. Now first I want to give you some context. There had been accusations by Amarosa that Donald Trump had used racial slurs.

And so she had specifically claimed that there was an attempt to spin the news if news came out about Trump using racial epithets. Now with that said, Katrina Pearson was part of that conversation. That's what Amorosa had alleged. And so Katrina Pearson, who was part of Trump's campaign, started doing damage control and denied everything. In fact, let's give you an example of her on Fox News. In the book, Amarosa says Katrina had heard from her sources that the tape was of Trump using

the N-word. Someone she knew who knew political strategist, Frank Lunch, told her that Lentz had heard it. Linn, as in Lynn Patton, a longtime Trump aide, reported she asked Trump about it on the plane, specifically whether it was possible such a tape might exist. And he said no. Then she, Katrina asked him what he wanted her to do, and he said, put it to bed. Katrina cursed and said, he said it. Did that happen?

No, Ed. That did not happen. It sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. You know, I've already been out there talking about this. That is absolutely not true. So she denies it. The conversation went further. Let's watch the next video.

I want to be clear. You've been around the president during the campaign since the campaign, since he was elected president. Have you ever heard him use the N-word, any sort of racial slur? Yes or no? Absolutely not. The answer is no. In fact, the president and his family have been nothing but kind, generous, and respectful to myself and everyone else that I know of color. As I suspected all along, this tape does not exist.

Omerosa is just desperate for money. So then Amarosa comes in and says, look, I have received. seats, everything that I've included in my book has evidence to back it up. And then she proceeded to share that evidence on CBS this morning. I'm trying to find out at least the context it was using to help us maybe try to figure out a way to spend it. Patton then described a conversation she had with then candidate Trump about making the slur. I said, well, sir, can you think of any time that this might have happened?

And he said, no. Well, that's not true. So he goes, how do you think I should handle it? And I told him exactly what you just said on Marissa, which is, well, it depends on what scenario you're talking about. And he said, well, why don't you just go ahead and put it to bed? I don't know what the scandal is. No, he said it.

He the merits. Katrina cursed and said he said it. Did that happen? No, Ed. That did not happen. It sounds like she's writing a script for a movie. Oops, it turns out that's exactly what happened. So look, I don't know, do you all know that everybody on TV is a liar?

And I feel like, you know, because the anchors, they take the political people at face value. And maybe because it's just awkward and impolite to be talking to someone and call them out to be a liar. But these Trump people, I mean, and look, it's not like the Democratic politicians don't lie, they lie all the time, right? It's not like Obama's spokespeople don't lie. Now they're treated as angels because of how terrible the Trump people are, right?

But they weren't angels, they also lied. Okay, but these Trump people are brought to a whole new level. Absolutely. They're like, oh, there's no such day for me saying that. Well, here it is. So what? I'm just gonna keep lying and lying and lying. And that's Katrina Pearson.

I guess she's, she in the reelection campaign? Right? So how did Katrina Pearson respond to getting caught in that lie? Let's go to Graphic 32. In a joint statement after Manningold Newman's appearance on CBS, Pearson and Patton said, no one ever denied the existence of conversations about a reported apprentice tape and that they occurred because Amarosa was obsessed with it. So the half of that is true.

So Amarosa is a snake. And I know I should not use an animal as a derogatory term because animals are innocent. Okay, but she is, and let's keep it real. She knew she's taping, so she's trying to get them to talk about it. On the other hand, they do talk about it. If somebody came into me and was like, hey, Jank, remember when Anna used the N-word? I'd be like, no, she never did. I don't know what the hell you're talking about, right?

What a weird thing to say, right? Whereas they're having a conversation like, I know, I know. How are we going to spin it? We've got to put it to bed. We've got to figure it. And by the way, I mean, let's know it's three African-Americans in the room trying to figure out how to cover for a president who attacked African Americans using the N-word. I mean, I hope they're happy with how they're getting paid.

Yeah. All right, well, let's move on to the next part of this story. Following Amarosa's release of recordings showing that there were some issues in the White House, issues that make the Trump administration look particularly bad, Donald Trump decided to fight back via Twitter. And so his recent tweet in regard to Amarosa has caught a little bit of heat. Let me tell you what he said. When you give a crazed crying low life a break, you give her a job at the White House.

I guess it just didn't work out. Good work by General Kelly for firing that dog. So that last part has upset people for obvious reasons. Referring to a black woman as a dog is problematic to see. say the least. And so, you know, look, I don't know what else to say about it. I mean, what, but what do you expect? What Trump says is one thing, but his actions speak way louder than words. You guys might be surprised that I'm a little mixed on this. And I'll tell you why. So there are some racial slurs that are obvious. And then the right wing would claim,

no, when we called that black person an A, but I don't know why you're taking so present. No, we know what you're talking about. It's the oldest racial stereotype. It's what people have used said for hundreds of years to attack African Americans, okay? And so there's a list of those. Then there are others that mean nothing. You can compare someone to an animal, and it means nothing at all. I just called Amaroosa a snake earlier in the show, and I got no problem.

I'll say that a thousand times because she is. And so is Donald Trump, okay? And so was Michael Cohen. And so it's almost everybody that works in the Trump administration. If you called her a parrot, you'd be like, okay, I don't know what that means. Right? So it depends. It depends.

So does Donald Trump call people dogs? Well, kind of. He's called women dogs in the past. Okay. So there's that. I don't know if it makes it any better or makes it worse. And then he said Mitt Romney choke like a dog. He said David Gregory was fired like a dog.

And he said Ted Cruz lies like a dog. Well, see, and that's why I'm mixed on it. Because now Ted Cruz whimpers like a dog to Donald Trump. Yes, he does. He does. And I know you shouldn't use that derogatorily because animals are innocent. But this one to me is a little bit less clear. Given the overwhelming racial history of Donald Trump and the way he has attacked African

Americans over and over and over again, and specifically. So to me, when he called her not smart, that was actually worse. Now, why? I mean, that doesn't have to be a racial story. You call anybody not smart, that doesn't mean that it's racial at all, right? He seems to use that insult specifically for black people. All the time, and almost exclusively for them. So he's got a billion insults.

And that's why again, dog, I'm like, yeah, but this guy's unhinged calls like 18 different things dogs, right? But Don Lemon, these are the people he called low IQ, Don Lemon, Maxine Waters, LeBron James, Amorosa. Hmm, what connects those for? And then, of course, always note the irony that this is the lowest IQ person in public life, Donald Trump, calling other people low IQ. But why?

It's in the back of his head, all these racial stereotypes. Puerto Ricans, oh, they didn't help themselves during the hurricane because they're lazy. Oh, come on, man. Mexicans are criminals and rapists. That's right. And the Jews are like to renegotiate. These are all things he said, because that's the kind of stereotypes, to be polite. that he has in his head.

So I don't know what he meant by dog, but I do know who he is. Look, all I know is, again, actions speak louder than words. So if you're trying to judge him solely based on what he says, that's one thing. But I would argue that it's more valuable to judge someone based on the actions they take. The fact that he took out a full-page ad after the Central Part 5 were proven innocent, and in that ad he said that they should be executed anyway, that says something. Yeah, let me just be clear. He wanted them executed in the beginning before they were tried, before he had any idea if they were guilty.

And then later, when they were proven innocent, he said they should stay in jail anyway. Oh, okay, sorry, good clarification. And he said, yeah, they probably did something. Come on, that's so racist. They found the actual guy who did the rape, and he wasn't a minority, and he confessed, and they had his DNA. It's that guy. They'd wrongly imprison these poor kids for all those years. But they're black, so he comes on.

He's like, ah, they probably did something. They were kids, he's such a monster. So it's an interesting debate about the word dog, but we already know who this guy is. Finally, I want to go to Sarah Huckabee Sanders press conference today. She was asked specifically whether or not she could guarantee that Trump said any racial slur, specifically the N-word. Here was her response to it. Can you stand at the podium and guarantee the American people?

They'll never hear Donald Trump utter the N word on a recording in any context. I can't guarantee anything, but I can tell you that the president addressed this question directly. I can tell you that I've never heard it. I can also tell you that if myself or the people that are in this building, serving this country every single day, doing our very best to help people all across this country and make it better, if it At any point, we felt that the president was who some of his critics claim him to be, we certainly wouldn't be here. So she can't guarantee it.

I mean, that was smart. So obvious, it's so obvious. They got the tapes. By the guy, by the way, the guy who might have tapes is Mark Burnett who produced The Apprentice. That's a theory, I don't know if it's true. And Mark Burnett is evangelical Republican. So if he has the tapes, he didn't release him during the election, he hasn't released them now.

I mean, if there's a conspiracy to make sure Donald Trump didn't win, the world's worst conspiracy because nobody ever released bad stuff about him. No, to be fair, access Hollywood tape. They did release that. But they unleashed on Hillary Clinton, the FBI, and everyone else. So if that tape exists and that answer from Sarah Hulgamy Sanders makes me believe that it definitely does, it's apparently people who are friendly to him who are keeping it. from the public.

Jay, what do you think? Dog, racial or not racial? What's the thing? So you said he's called other ones dogs, and he said he lied like a dog. I forget the other examples. He did the side. He was someone fired like a dog? Soke like a dog.

Was someone fired like a dog? Yes. Like a dog? Yeah. Okay, so those were, now I'm going to have maybe some small differences with this. But those were, they did the things like a dog. That was a dog, he said about her. I'm just going off of the mindset.

of this guy. Also, if you have a track record that this guy has, and if you actually cared about your track record and the fact that you're called a racist for good reason, you think about the things that you say. That's a great point. Your background is that. So you don't care enough to think, you know, people might think that this kind of comes off bad. He's just thinking, I'm going to hit her and head her back because I'm a counterpuncher. So if your track record is that, that's a problem already. So we already know who you are. So when you say it, we can read into that. My kid's kindergarten teacher, she has to have little names for her class.

She said, I used to call my, you know, one called them the cubs. These are my cubs. She had to call them monkey. These are my little monkeys. They go crazy. And we're like, maybe you don't use it, but at least you don't have a track record for doing that. Think about what you're saying because there's some kids in a class and maybe that's a problem.

And you're thinking, oh, they're just crazy. Kids like to climb on walls. That's your thought process, but you're missing something. But at least you don't have a track record for being a racist. And we can go, why are you doing that? If you have a track record, you just think about it. Yeah. You should, especially for the President of the United States.

That's such a great point because even if you think he did not have bad intent, who is so low IQ that in a tweet when you have been accused of racism a million times, you call an African American person you're opposed to both not smarter and earlier tweet, doing it for the fourth time in a short period of time all against African Americans, and then you call her a low life and a dog. Man, that's not savvy at all. Come on, man, what? Like, I'm just so, like, you know how you're tired about the debates regarding the Russia

and Vesey? I'm tired of having debates about whether or not he's racist. He said that the Charlottesville white nationalists, some of them are good people. Some of them are good people. They were chanting blood and soil, blood and soil. The Jews will not replace us. Who says some of them are good people? All right.

So, uh. Well, all right. I mean, that's it. And that's that. I'm going to keep going. Go. We'll take a break later. Lou Dobbs, let's go to Lou Dobbs.

Some of the white nationalists who were involved in the Charlottesville protest last year, which led to the death of Heather Hire, decided to commemorate the event by doing another march in Washington, D.C. It was known as the Unite the Right to protest. Now, the counter protesters outnumbered, significantly outnumbered the white nationalists that were a part of this Unite the Right rally. And Lou Dobbs wanted to cover it, talk about it on his show. He's a Fox News host. And look, there were issues there with a few Antifa protesters, counter protesters who were harassing and going after journalists.

And we're going to get to that in just a second. But I want you to pay close attention to the way he refers to counter protesters and how he refers to the white supremacists who decided to do a commemorative march on the one-year anniversary of Heather Hire getting murdered and run over by a car. Our top story tonight, the radical left, militant group Antifa, wreaking havoc over the weekend in Virginia and our nation's capital. In Washington, D.C., where the Antifa mob numbered around 200, they heavily outnumbered the two dozen so-called white supremacists, they were supposedly there to confront.

They're not so-called white supremacist. That's the whole point of the march. White supremacy was the whole point of the march. Look, a lot of people did not show up, right? And that's a good thing. But I would argue that they probably didn't show up because there were serious ramifications for some of them who did show up last year. A lot of them lost their jobs. They were in photographs. Their employers didn't like it. So it's risky to show up to something like. We covered this on the show at the end of last week, where they were having debates in white supremacist and neo-Nazi websites about should they go or should they not, because they might lose their jobs, et cetera.

And the main source of the conversation was, should we just try to make it more subtle and make sure that our white supremacy is put into the culture without actually wearing the Nazi armbands? That was a literal debate that they had, right? because the Nazi armbands don't play well in the media. We all think it, right? But it doesn't play well, so we have to figure out how to strategize over this. But there was no question that this was a white supremacist march.

It's not so-called. It's not, yeah, that's period, period. Look, there's a range of people in different movements. So you can't say that all the right wing, for example, in this country was represented by that march. That's not fair at all, right? But the people in that march represent the people in that march. There were all white supremacists.

Right, I mean, look, if you were, if you had favorable views of the March a year ago, and then you're like, eh, that did not work out well, it's a really bad idea to show up and commemorate what happened last year, then, like, you made a smart decision by not show. But the guys who showed up, they're the worst of the worst. Like, they are the worst. They're the ones who think, yeah, of course we're going to draw more attention to the heinous acts that were committed a year ago. No, Lou Dobbs, man, I don't know how deeply racist you are, but if you're not, what a weird

decision to defend these guys who said, we are going to have a white supremacist march for white nationalism and to commemorate what they called was the taking away of their civil rights in Charlottesville. They're the ones who murdered somebody. Not, you know, the guy who specifically did it is in prison, but it was their group that encouraged and did that rally and chanted the anti-Semitic chance and all that stuff. And Heather Hire got killed. And they want to commemorate that and pretend that they're the victims.

Lou, what are you doing defending them? Yeah. I mean, I guess unless you are them, why else would you defend those guys? And you look at that and you say the problem isn't the white supremacist, but the people protesting them. It's like, can you imagine during the Skokie March? Remember the Nazis march in Skokie, Illinois, a long time ago, and that was a big moment in America. And the courts said they, no, no, it's a free country. Even Nazis are allowed to march.

If Jews had showed up to protest them, I guess Lou Dobbs would have done a segment saying, I mean, the so-called Nazis, but look at the thugs who came up to protest them. What? Right. Like, I get it, they have masks on, and I get it, they're on the left and you hate them. Pick a better venue to criticize them. Right. So, look, I want to be, we want to be as honest and fair as possible when we report these

stories. I'm like goddamn Fox News who doesn't care. That's exactly right. So there were a few people associated with Antifa who did things that I do not agree with. I think it's incredibly counterproductive. I'll give you specific examples. So the police were essentially barricading or separating the counter protesters from the protesters with good reason. You don't want things to break out in violence. Totally. So members of Antifa, some members of Antifa got angry or upset about that because they weren't able to, you know, confront these rallygoers. So they took out a lot of their frustration on reporters and journalists who are doing their jobs.

They're there to do their jobs. Don't attack them, and some of them did get attacked. When a Washington Post reporter tried to interview the anti-fascist, they refused to speak, which is fine, but here's where it gets bad. When he followed them up the street with his cell phone camera, one of them shoved a black umbrella into his lens and several shouted no photos, then it got worse. This can harm us, one of the protesters said, just before someone swatted the reporter's iPhone out of his hand and threw it into the middle of the street.

That's unacceptable. You can't do that. Well, so, look, my guess as to why they're doing it, and it's not a justification, definitely do not do that, is that they're concerned that Fox News, and that's why they're wearing the mask, that Fox News is going to identify them. Now, they say, well, you guys identify the Nazis. They're Nazis. Okay.

So, but what do the alt-right do? The trolls online do it, and FoxAid and abet them? Oh, here's the Antifa guys. They're the thugs. And then go after them and try to get them fired, et cetera. I get that. But they can't call you thugs if you're not behaving in this type of behavior, right? Like, you're there, you're the good guys.

You're supposed to be the good guys. You're there to protest hate. So why are you giving terrible people like Lou Dobbs and Tucker Carlson who will get to in just a second any fodder? Like don't do it. Don't give them anything. And if you don't want to be in the photos and stuff, wear the masks. That's totally fine. But don't damage other people's properties.

Don't go after journalists who are there doing their jobs. NPR reporter Tim Mack watched Antifa protesters lob fireworks and bottles at the police separating them from the white supremacists. Unacceptable guys, come on. So look, there's a couple of different possibilities. One is they're wearing masks. Who knows if they're in that right wing, get ready to go nuts, okay? I don't know if they're not right wingers who are saboteurs and maybe that's why they don't want their picture taken.

Maybe that's why they attack the police and they attack the press so they can say, oh, look at the left, look at the left. I have no idea, I have no idea, okay? Could it be guys on the left who did that? Of course it could be. And so I don't know what you think you're trying to prove, but it isn't, all you're doing is giving Fox ammunition for no goddamn reason. That's why I wonder if they're actually right-wingers, because why would you bother helping

their cause like that? It's not remotely helpful. But I know that there are a lot on the left who are to the left of us or whatever that end of the spectrum is, who are super frustrated and doing things that I think are unproductive and unhelpful. Really small thing before you go to Tucker. This is why inciting violence is a problem. You know, so if you start a problem by saying,

we're going to have a rally about how much we hate people, and then last year we're going to commemorate how we killed someone and tried to kill many more, but we're unlucky enough to only kill one woman. And then we're going to do it again, and you incite a scene where people are going to oppose you, you're at fault, in my opinion. If you start the fight and you're commemorating a deadly fight before

that you started already, you want this fight. You want people to come out and fight. with you. So when these people respond in a violent way, it's wrong, but you're there to have that fight. This is why when you have these clashes, everyone's at fault. But you can't act like you didn't just ask for it to start. You wanted this. People, these guys, part of the platform is, let's have our race war. How much do we hear about that? They want stuff like that to happen. Don't give it to them. Yeah, no, I'm saying, don't give it to them. And in America, we got to let them speak, man. We got to let them rally. Let's just a 30 total losers walk around

and get fired. Or drive cars through a bunch of people. That's what they do. No, no, but that's why the cops are right to separate them. Sure, I'm not saying don't separate them. I don't want to fight. Yeah. No, but it's not, you can't say it's inciting just to have a rally because otherwise

we can't have rallies. And they got First Amendment rights. And you got a First Amendment right to counter protest. I just don't think it's effective. So let's go to Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson essentially has the same talking points. but takes it a step further and argues that the United States has absolutely no race issues. Take a look.

Oh, yeah, that's smart. Yesterday was the year anniversary of the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in which a woman was fatally struck by a car that was driven into the crowd. If you followed the hyperventilating press coverage leading up to yesterday's event, you probably expected to see thousands of hooded Klansmen showing up on horseback in D.C. to commemorate and celebrate the killing. White supremacy is just that prevalent in America, they tell us. It's everywhere, except it's not.

That's a lie. White supremacy is not ubiquitous in America. It's not a crisis. It's not even a meaningful category. It is incredibly rare. You could easily live your entire life in this country without meeting a single person who believes anything like that. Most of us have lived lives like that.

I have. What is a crisis in America and a growing crisis is left-wing extremism and violence. Our elites abet and encourage it. Our media pretend it doesn't exist. Okay, so Tucker Carlson argues that there is absolutely no racial tension in the country, nothing going on with race wars, everything's hunky dory, except then you look back at his previous Fox News episodes and you come across stuff like this.

A recent piece in National Geographic tells you a lot about demographics in America and about how bewilderingly fast they're changing without any real public debate on the subject. In the year 2000, Hazleton's population was 2% Hispanic. Just 16 years later, Hazleton is majority Hispanic. That's a lot of change. This pace of change makes societies volatile, really volatile, just as ours has become volatile. That's happening all over the country. No nation, no society has ever changed this much, this fast.

Consider and be honest, how would you feel if that happened in your neighborhood? The culture their parents and grandparents had built evaporated. They never asked for any of that. It was just imposed on them. They were bewildered, understandably. They caused all of this with their reckless immigration policies, and yet their own neighborhoods are basically unchanged. They look like it's 1960.

What is he talking about? Okay, so let's bring all of this down. First of all, my favorite part of that is, no nation has ever changed this fast as quickly. citation, please? You made that up. There's no such fact. Then he goes, now imagine if it happened in your neighborhood, how would you like it? I'd be totally fine with it because I'm not racist like you.

Like, he doesn't, he can't believe that anyone would be fine with it. If my town, as in L.A., for example, or Miami where I lived, became 60% Latino, which it kind of is, okay, would I move here? I knew what it was. But anyway, if it became 60% Latino, I'd be like, okay, so what? Whereas Tucker thinks like, that's a nightmare. And he's telling everyone in the audience, could you imagine? Come on, if it happened in your hometown, these goddamn Latinos coming in? What white supremacy?

I don't know what you're talking about. My favorite thing in the world is talking about how conservatives who fear monger about Latinos the most have all moved to Los Angeles, okay? And Colter, Los Angeles, Ben Shapiro, Los Angeles. Prager University, I didn't know this, headquartered in Los Angeles. Brightbart, Los Angeles. Bright Bart, Los Angeles. Get out, get out.

If you're so afraid of the scary Mexicans and Latinos, get out. Go, go, go. We have no interest in you. Okay, so now let's go back to his first clip. He says, oh, the left is hyperventilating over this. The last time it happened, they chanted the Jews will not replace us and murder someone. Being concerned about that is hyperventilating? Stop hyperventilating jank, okay?

And second of all, it's not even true. Like, for example, on the Young Turks on Friday, I said, look, it's not going to be that many people that show up, okay? And how many times have I said that on the show? A million times, there's not that many of these idiot loser right-wingers. We over-hyped them. I tell you not to do counter-protests because otherwise there's seven dorks that came out of their basement like, oh, did the Nazi takeover having yet?

Right? Now, on the other hand, is that all white supremacy is? No. And Tucker knows this. There's a spectrum of white supremacy from, okay, I'm a Nazi and I hate the blacks, the Jews, the Latinos, and everybody else to, well, I don't call them the N-word, but I don't want them in my town, right? I don't want them in my house, I don't want them at my job, to, hey, you know what, I find

that black guy's scary. I think that's legitimate to think that they're scary. Don't they do more crime? They're bigger. They're stronger. They're more violent. No, I don't hate him. I don't hate him. Like one guy said in his story recovered. I let him use my bathroom. Wow. Okay. How generous. That is. I didn't know you were that merciful. Okay. Two, Tucker Carlson saying on air that these are scary demographic changes. Why are they scary? No, no. No, I love it. Okay. So not only did he say that in one of his episodes in the past. But in the more recent episode where he's talking about this, Unite the Two rally, Unite the right rally, he said this.

This is an exact quote from his segment. In fact, this is a generous, tolerant country. It has always been like that. Really, it's always been a tolerant country? So, like, Native American genocide that was tolerant, slavery, that was tolerant. I mean, we're having a conversation about this. But we are, but we are, but we are. But we are, because the elderly white people who watch Fox News want to live in their dream world

where this country never had any racial tensions. Are you crazy? No, but in a sense, for them, that's true because they think, I never had any racial problems. Because you were in the majority. That's not really how it works. And more absurd things that he said, you know, all this change without public debate. What were you supposed to do, have a debate in that town in Pennsylvania? Hey, should we let the Latinos in?

Okay, that was supposed to be a debate. Okay, that's not really how it works. And it's made this country so volatile. No, your demagoguery on air, stoking fear and hatred against the others is what has made it volatile. Left-wing violence, what on God's green earth are you talking about? It makes it sound like it was the left who killed someone in Charlottesville instead of the right.

It was the right-wing. You know who the majority of terrorists in this country? A right-wing extremists. Now, that doesn't mean Tucker Carlson is an extremist who's going to kill people. There's a spectrum, okay? But if you look at the great majority of terrorist actions in America, according to the FBI, which I now know that you don't like, you don't like any law enforcement, but if you look at our government stats, it's by right-wing terrorists.

So left-wing violence, because in his mind, in his racist mind, he thinks, I mean, what do you mean? Blacks and Latinos are the violent ones, right? I mean, we kill them, we enslaved, we did this, we did that, right? And Tucker, I'm not putting it on you. But if you say it never happened, then I got to tell you, yes, you moron, yes, it did happen. And then he cries. He goes, oh, you're saying, oh, you won't get over slavery and you're accusing me of it. I'm just telling you, hey, idiot, don't pretend it didn't happen when it did.

And so this whole, everything he said there was a lie. My favorite last one was, like some of us, go our whole lives without meaning a white supremacist. Like me. What, you never looked in the mirror? You push white supremacy all the time on air. And yes, when you say that demographic changes are things you should be worried about, and nobody would want it in their town. Nobody would want their town to be majority Latino.

And that it's demographics, that's the problem. That is by definition, white supremacy. Let's take a break. We'll be right back. Thanks for watching. We're listening to this free version of the Young Turks podcast. You know that the full show is at t-y-tnetwork.com slash join. If you become a member, you get the full show ad-free.

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