The Young Turks - Paragon of Health - January 2, 2026

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Okay, Jake, you were John. Jake just turned 14 years old. Yeah, well, you know, so I get temperamental, I get 14 year old, so at least one thing fits. All right, guys, a huge show for you guys. It's Friday after New Year's and you think, oh, all is quiet on the home front. Nope. So new threats of bombing Iran, we'll get into that.

But interestingly, Steve Bannon now saying Donald Trump is the equivalent of Hillary Clinton. Whoa, so a magnificent war goes to a different level. This one goes to 11. Okay. Zoran Mamdani is sworn in, controversies all around. Do I agree with any of the controversies? Are we gonna push back against some of the contravices? I don't know which one.

I'm curious now. I'll be tuning in. Okay, well there you have it. Super fun, exciting show. Yeah. Speaking of fun and exciting, war with Iran. Yeah, I'm gonna mostly tune out this hour, but the second hour, that sounds good. Anyway, let's get to one of several wars we might be engaged in by the end of this year.

Let's start off with this. As protests continue to occur across Iran over economic issues there, President Donald Trump is weighing in, issuing yet more threats against Iran and its government, not explicitly over nuclear issues, like led to the war that he started there, but this time saying that he will protect any protesters that are killed by the Iranian regime. We've got a lot of details on the violence has already occurred there, but Cenk, first off, what are 2 cents. Yeah, so I think we're gonna have coverage of this that you're not gonna see anywhere

else because of course is all about Israel, that's obvious, right? But the question is, why might Israel not be in favor of this regime change? They definitely want regime change in Iran, but maybe not this one, and hence the call for bombing, because if you bombed, it would actually end this insurgency. So we're gonna tell you why it's really important and interesting. Let's give you all the facts first. Fascinating and complicated. So let's talk first about what has already happened.

We have escalations coming, but so far on Ears Eve, Nears Day, there were fatalities that were actually reported coming out of these demonstrations. There's a lot of lack of clarity in some of these cases, but we'll give you the best information that we have. So the semi-official Forest News Agency and Human Rights Group Hangout said two people had died during clashes between protesters and security forces in the sortie of city of Lord again in southwestern Iran. Three more people were killed in Azna. And so the total number of fatalities is believed to be somewhere between six and eight, which is obviously

very tragic for just a couple of days of protesting there. There are right now conflicting reports in most of these cases about whether they were demonstrators or security forces who were killed in the individual cases. Human rights groups say that multiple protesters have been killed and there is video going around showing security forces firing on groups of demonstrators. So it is certainly plausible that there have been fatalities there. State media is saying that members of the security forces have been killed by protesters who are armed. That's possible, I suppose, believe that if you wish. Independent outlets haven't been able to confirm the truth just yet,

obviously difficulty getting information there. But regardless of the facts and of the death count, which almost certainly will rise, over the next day or two, this is how Donald Trump greeted it on true social, saying, if Iran shots and violently kills peaceful protesters, which is their custom, the United States of America will come to their rescue. We are locked and loaded and ready to go. Thank you for your attention to this matter. And just in case it wasn't clear, it's from President Donald J. Trump. So that's strange that he leaps to the defense of protesters halfway around the world when he has hardly been a fan of protest here in the

United States. Remember, of course, he was so aggrieved by the last round of No King's protests that he put out a deep fake video of him, literally dumping poop all over protesters. And the many people are worried about what will happen when he deploys the military ahead of the midterms, as he's almost certainly going to do. But here's he's implying that they are going to come to the rescue of anyone who is attacked, which doesn't sound, like just a bombing thing, we're going to come to your rescue, not avenge you, not if you kill them, we'll kill you. He's making it sound as if he's going to send troops into Iran to protect protesters there, which I would doubt, I suppose, but what do you think? So first of all, obviously

it has nothing to do with the protesters. Obviously, it has nothing to do with protecting Iran. Like, let's just get to the real issue here. So Israel wants to attack Iran again, but again, Let's be more clear, they don't really want to attack around. They want us to attack Iran, why? So first they said nukes, we got rid of their nuclear facilities that didn't have nukes, but okay, the facilities are gone, everything is gone. Then they moved to missiles and people were like, everybody has missiles. Like now we're gonna attack Iran over missiles, right?

And they're like, no, no, like that's all warm up act anyway. Regime change, we need regime change. Now why do they need regime change? Because a lot of you might not know this, and in fact, I didn't know it until pretty recently, but now that I've done a lot more research and now know some people from the region, et cetera, and have some sources there, it turns out most of the Arab governments are run by puppets for Israel. And so like, if you say anything against the Israeli government in Jordan or Egypt or Saudi Arabia or UAE, you will be arrested.

If you say something not against the Saudi government, which you'll also be arrested for. But against the Israeli government, you're going to get picked up by Saudi intelligence or Jordanian intelligence. So these are all puppet regimes. And so what Israel, like Israel thinks, okay, if I knock out their missiles, that's a temporary win. If I knock out their leadership and I now control the leadership of that country, fill in the blank, Iraq, Jordan, et cetera, well then I own that country. And that, that lasts for a long time. So that's why at the end of the day, no matter how many times we bomb Iran or any of these countries that they want us to bomb, it's never enough until they get to regime change because the point isn't the bombing. The point is the regime change put in an Israeli puppet control to Middle East forever.

Okay, so that's the battle plan. So which then John leads us back to the protesters is a bit of a problem for the Israelis. Wait, why? You want the regime toppled? Yes, but once the regime, if the regime is toppled, they don't. want an organic insurgency to replace that regime, they need it replaced by our puppet, and hence why America has to do the bombing and the replacing. Because if the Iranians replace their leadership on their own, and God forbid they go to

democracy, that's a best case scenario for us, progressives, populists, et cetera. We don't want to deal with Iran or Israel, but given our druthers, would we want to Grand Ayatollah or the Mullah regime, no, we want a democracy in Iran, right? And the people of Iran to be represented and to be free. Israel does not want that. And in fact, a huge part of the reason why there are no democracies in the Middle East outside of Turkey and Israel is because Israel actively tries to prevent it. If the Jordanian people got their way in a democracy, Israel would be in a lot of trouble.

Jordan would all of the Jordanian people support Palestinians, but their leadership doesn't. And that's the same of almost all of those countries. So that's why they want us to bomb partly because we got to put the puppet in, not them. But the other reason, John, is if you bomb Iran, what's going to happen? Everybody's going to rally around the flag. It's going to strengthen the Ayatollah and kill off this organic uprising, which Israel doesn't want. Yeah. They want them toppled, and then we have to bomb and put in the leader.

So that's the game that's being played. Yeah, and that's why it's important when sometimes, I think Donald Trump and like the right, it's like a part of the way that they're trolls. They like to pretend to agree with you, but not at all for the same reasons you might think. Like Trump is against like wind energy. So why does he say he doesn't like wind energy? Is it because he likes the oil and gas industry? Yeah, but he's not going to say that.

Is it because it spoils his view and he cares more about his view than the fate of the world? Yeah, but he's not going to say that. He says to protect the birds. so that maybe environmentalists get on his side. He doesn't give a damn about the environmentalists. And you might think, hey, well, you know, weren't we really supportive of Iranian student protesters a couple of years ago? Yeah, he's not though.

That's, he doesn't give one damn about a single protester in, in Florida, let alone in Iran. And so they'll be deceived into thinking, oh, okay, well, I don't like Donald Trump. I don't really want us to get more involved in more conflicts, but I guess at least we could finally make good on the desire for democracy. There's not going to be any democracy. This has way more in common with, you know, American adventures in replacing Iranian governments back 60 years ago or whatever than it does anything having to do with democracy. And so there are some people fighting back against this Thomas Massey, almost Turk of the year.

He tweeted out, we have problems at home and shouldn't be wasting military resources on another country's internal affairs. He strikes in Iran require congressional authorization. I get what he means there, but that's kind of a joke right now. The idea that Donald Trump would ever have to go to Congress for this sort of thing. It should, and I would love for Thomas Massey, maybe Rokana, to actually make that a legal thing. But unfortunately, Donald Trump doesn't give a damn what Congress thinks. And this threat isn't about freedom of speech in Iran. It's about the dollar, oil, and Israel. So Israel and Israel's desire for regime change, as Jank pointed out.

There's some interesting other elements that we should definitely discuss. One is that Mossad has posted social media messages encouraging the protesters to rise up. Here's one comment. Let's come out to the streets together. The time has come. We are with you, not just from afar and verbally. We are with you in the field as well. We're with you in the field as well.

I don't know if that's true or not, but they certainly want the message to be out there that, I mean, I'm assuming I know what you're going to say about that, but take a swing. Yeah, I mean, look, it could be just normal siops to confuse and bewilder your opponent. But I think what's more likely is they're trying to delegitimize this actual organic uprising. Well, and justifying. Oh, we're right next to them. Remember, this uprising, Mossad's in in the crowd. Yeah.

You would only say that to delegitimize it in Iran. To make it more legitimate for the Iranians to devastate them. Like well, now this isn't organic. This is a foreign intelligence operator. Like if you actually, first of all, why would Massad be weighing in on any of this? But obviously that's the effect that it's going to have. It almost seems, it almost seems too obvious. It seems ham-fisted for Assad, which has done some pretty sensitive and subtle.

But John, you have to remember, that's for the Iranian audience. And it's almost for the Ayatollah, so the Ayatollah can say, see, Mossad is in the crowd. That's why I had to kill them, which then gives Trump an excuse to attack and then put in our regime. So that is not for U.S. consumption. And we're about the only show talking about it. Like if you turn on television or you go to the New York Times, you're not going to get any of that, right?

They're not talking about how Mossad is in the streets in Iran. That would be anti-Semitic to repeat what Mossad literally put out in public on. their own. They're like, what do you mean? Are you trying to say that we're doing this for Israel? You're all anti-Semites. I mean, so like, remember, we live in a different bubble than they a lot of people live in. We live in a bubble filled with information and knowledge and facts. Yeah. Establishment media operates in a bubble of void of almost all facts filled with nothing but propaganda. So if that hurts from Assad's interest, there's no chance they would cover it. So a huge percentage of the American people have no idea what's actually happening there.

Yeah, well, let's talk about a few of the other elements. One was, I'm a jump at graphic seven. Initially, the president there had responded indicating that reforms were coming, which might allay some of the concerns of the protesters saying, quote, the livelihood of the people is my daily concern. The government plans to reform the monetary and banking system and preserve the purchasing power of the people, adding that he had also asked the interior minister to hear the legitimate demands of the protesters through dialogue with their representatives.

But they've also indicated that if the US gets involved, then things could change their tenor significantly, the advisor to the supreme leader warned that Iran's national security was a red line, not material for adventurous tweets, and said any intervening hand nearer, nearing Iran's security on pretexts will be cut off with a regret-inducing response. So obviously those are, you know, something much more like fighting words. And there's more comments go about how Donald Trump is the one that's starting this adventure and they should pay attention to the safety of their soldiers. But I wanted to get to this. This is Marjorie Green, who has just a couple of days left in Congress, said, in Israeli cybersecurity billionaire,

demanding to take away Americans guaranteed First Amendment free speech, and President Trump threatening war and sending in troops to Iran is everything we voted against in 24. Trump voters spent the week threatening a tax revolt because they are so furious about the never ending waste fraud and abuse of their hard-earned money going to foreigners in foreign wars. The focus should be on tax dollars here at home and defending our God-given freedoms and rights. We'll return to the latter part of that in a bit, but I want to explain what the first part of is about when she says about the cybersecurity billionaire. She's referencing this appearance on CNBC earlier this week by Israeli cybersecurity billionaire

Shlomo Kramer. And I know it's difficult to hear, but it's time to limit the first amendment in all the to protect it and quickly before it's too late. What do you mean? I mean that we need to control the platforms, all the social platforms. We need to stack rank the authenticity of every person that expresses themselves online and take control over what they are saying based on that ranking. The government.

The government should control the social media. Yeah. Okay, so just to be clear, this is a foreign billionaire wanting to advance the interests of a different country by coming onto the media in our country and telling us that our rights need to be taken away. Yeah, he literally said we need to defeat the First Amendment in order to protect the First Amendment, so we have to destroy that village, we have to destroy your constitution in order to protect it, and when he says the American government should decide who's allowed

to talk and not talk on these social media platforms, he of course means the Israeli government because he's perfectly aware that the Israeli government completely controls the American government. And now this is on top of Larry Ellison and Netanyahu basically saying together, yeah, we're taking over TikTok on behalf of Israel. So they couldn't make it any clearer. And like we get in trouble by trouble by the establishment media who are nothing but shills and propagandists for Israel. if we just repeat what they say on air. Yeah, right?

So an Israeli billionaire is saying we should kill off our First Amendment rights so that the government can control what is said and not said about Israel. And then you just repeat it, and they're like, you're an anti-Semite. No, but he just, you just saw him say it. You literally just saw him say it. This isn't like Ken Clippenstein got a document, it was from a dinner, and there was a comment that was reported where Shlomo said, he was He went on to the news and said it. It's not a mis-translation, it's not, well, if you really think about what he said, you understand they just said it outright.

Yeah, but every time they say something like this where they show you what their true intent is, it immediately gets memory holds. CNBC, which broke news there with that amazing interview, will never mention it again. CNN will never mention it, New York Times, Washington Post will never mention it while pretending to be objective, okay? So, and then when you say, hey, I don't think you are objective, it looks like you're favoring one side. They're like anti-samey cancel him, ruin his career. See how I'm objective? No, you're proving my point.

Yeah. Right? So, okay, bottom line is though, most importantly, guys, as we look at this Iran situation, look at this convergence that only this show told you about was going to happen a year ago. It is literally happening. Later in the show, we're going to talk about how Steve Bannon is now calling Trump Hillary Clinton because of these threats to attack Iran. Okay, so now Marjorie Taylor Green, Tom Massey, Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, agree with us that we should not go to war with Iran, we should not do regime change,

we should not work for Israel, oh my God, what an amazing, miraculous development. Please don't like let that slide by you without noting, oh my God, the country's coming together. On our 250th anniversary or birthday, we're coming together as a country to try to get this foreign government off of our, off of us. And it's obvious that they control us. And now Trump is out here like a puppet. Yes, I said puppet, and you could suck it. And going out there going, we must attack Iran.

We care about democracy. We need regime change for Israel. Okay. Well, and then you all comes in and goes, hello, this is Donald Trump, like literally did it the other day. He's like, as Trump is going, we need to attack Iran and Venezuela for, you know, for America, wink, right? And now, holy cow, he got caught by his own side. That's a beautiful thing. Yeah, well, and it was about a week ago that there was the reports that Netanyahu had floated, hey, maybe we do some more bombing in 2026. It was before all these

protests. Now they're just like, oh, it's because of that. But you're already talking about it. Like you're just, you're just looking for some sort of excuse or pretext for all of this. And Donald Trump hasn't done it yet, but he sure seems excited. His path to a Nobel Peace Prize in 2026 seems like it's going to be a troubling one with Iran and Venezuela and all that. Nigeria, Somalia. Yeah, it's a lot of bombing for a Peace Prize guy, but I don't know. He can always get a second FIFA one, I suppose. Yeah, well, he gets the second one when he bombs literally every country in the World Cup.

Exactly, no. He's only bombed half the countries in the World Cup so far. That's why they give him a Peace Prize. Maybe he'll get like the UFC Peace Prize or something. Anyway, okay. All right, don't bomb Iran. Republicans, Democrats, voters, I don't mean the goddamn politicians. The centrist, everybody, we're all on the same team.

Make sure that they don't drag us into another war. Okay, all right, we gotta take a break here when we come back. Donald Trump is super healthy. That's why he won't stop talking about it. Okay, we'll tell you what we're doing. All right. Let's go to our members on t.yot.com. Nani Dragon says before we get started, can we just say what an amazing inauguration it was?

Yes, we can report on the ugly side of what they are saying about it, but we need to look toward and see the good that is to come. So that's about Zoran, Mom Doni, and we've got a lot on that in the second hour for you guys. Yeah, there was one thing that I didn't love, but the rest of it was great, and of course, Israel has already condemned him? Oh wow, I take that so seriously. Oh wow, has he been condemned by like, by like the current day fascists who are the biggest terrorist government in the world. Like you can't do a better endorsement. But anyway, Nani also wrote in, this reminds me of the CIA convincing the people of Iran to go against their, its government so they can put in a puppet regime. Yeah, that happened in the 1950s. How'd that turn out for us?

That's what I was referencing. Yeah, like, and then, oh, oops, there was blowback, and then the Ayatollah came in. But we never learned because I don't even think, look, here's another comment about the CIA. Wedge says regime changed here. Where's the CIA when you need them saying regime change here. No, look, the CIA is not just useless. They're counterproductive. They've always break the law. They're torturers, their spies. Then they spy on us, not others. They seem to work for Israel. I've never seen them help America ever, ever, ever. All they've ever done is help corporations and foreign governments. So I think the CIA has been a great evil in this country. And I don't think they've ever represented America. Not once, ever.

It's like this cancerous thing inside of our government that works for the worst people in the world and gets to break the law. And then eventually got co-opted by Israel and now works for a different government. I just can't imagine anything worse. So no, no, please no CIA regime change here. Then we have regime change in America. The new president that was elected is Benjamin Netanyahu. He will be president of both countries. All right, no thank you.

Canadian Moose Dragon says, hi guys, I've been devoted member of TYT. damage report since 2016. During that time, I've lived in four different countries, no matter what time zone I'm living in, I tune in on a daily basis. That's awesome, brother. I'm currently watching live from Thailand. Thank you for being my North Star pointing to the truth, consistent, passionate, and honest reporting. Much love to everyone on your team and the entire TYT community. Well, we appreciate you, Canadian Moose Dragon. So you're awesome and we love that you're watching from all those places and happy New Year in Thailand. Funkin for Funces, Happy New Year thing right back at you.

Jason Van Argo says, John looks good in a coat and tie. Either Jenks are good influence, very unlikely, or bread is a bad influence. Regardless, good against bread and golf if you play them this weekend. I am, I am. John does look good, I'll give him that. Thank you. S.M. says, so are we doing a new Ottoman Empire arc featuring Israel? Pretty much, they're trying to reconstitute.

You know how they're like, Turkey is trying to reconstitute the Ottoman Empire? Israel is literally taking over almost all the places the Ottoman Empire used to have for self-defense. Okay, it's hilarious. Rebel Dragon saying Jenkins, John, in the house, I love when you're both at the desk together. Me too, brother. It's been a while. Yeah, so it's great. Quote, pro, quid, says, Israel has never been a democracy born out of Nakba, murder, and terrorism.

It is definitely true that Israel was never a democracy. They were born out of terrorism, that's just a stone cold fact. both before and after the formation of Israel, but also they've kept the occupied territories, which is a dictatorship for 58 years. We'll be back. All right, back on TYT, Jenkins, John with you guys. We have more news. What do you got? We do.

Let's switch to Doc Talk. President Donald Trump is insisting that his health is fine. Thank you very much. His genetics are great. And also exercise is too boring to even consider. But according to recent reporting, including from the Wall Street Journal, his aides around him are still kind of concerned about some of the choices that he's making when it comes to his health.

health. We'll have all the details, but Cenk, first, what are your two cents? Yeah, so first of all, I don't much care about Donald Trump's health, which is a controversial thing to say, but I'll tell you why in a minute, okay? But second of all, is Donald Trump lying about it? Did the sunrise today? Is it going to, you know, is it going to set in a little bit? Oh, of course, of course he's lying. The question is which direction is he lied? So that's potentially important. So let's- Maybe he's even healthier than he says, actually. No, I don't mean that way. I mean like in terms of which health problems. Oh, sure, I gotcha, I got you. Okay, well, so let's jump into some of what the Wall Street Journal has been saying.

So he's, of course, he's the oldest man to assume the presidency. He's showing signs of aging in public and private, according to people close to him. And also according to everyone who watches him, I can love that sort of quote. Like we can see, we can see how slowly he walks downstairs, we can see how much he falls asleep in public events. And so they investigate, they found a lot of different causes. for concern. So the first is he's reportedly pushing back on medical advice from his own doctors, and I support him in that.

Trump don't listen to them. RFK Jr is right, docs don't know what they're talking about, never ever listen to a doctor. He gets very little sleep and I think you should cut it down even more. Golf is his only form of exercise, I would say quit even that, never get up from a reclined position actually. So he could do other exercise, but he says I just don't like exercise. It's boring to walk on it, to walk on a treadmill or run on a treadmill for hours and hours like some people do, that's not for me.

And that is, unfortunately, that's really only, you either play golf or you run on a treadmill. Those are the only two options. What else could you possibly do? God, he's so uncreative. But anyway, he apparently has told his aides recently he wants to have fewer scheduled meetings, but not because he's too tired, even though already his public events are about 40% down over the comparable period from the first year of his first term. He has a constrained number of hours that he does meetings in during the day.

He doesn't start until like at least noon now. And so all of this not great. The exercise thing is a problem. Also his diet is heavy on burgers and french fries. And one I think kind of wild bit of dues. This came out of an October 2025 podcast interview that he did with R&C committee chairman Joe Gruters. So he talked about his experience with Trump on the campaign trail in 2024, and being kind of shocked by what the president ate. So he recalled that Trump, quote, had hot fries waiting for him from McDonald's, then he had a filial fish, a quarter pounder, and a Big Mac. Even more startling, the RNC chair said, quote, I think he combined two of them. And I don't even know.

It's only the I've ever liked about Trump. I didn't know that was the thing you could do. Like as a kid, I'd combine two sodas, you know, two cereals. Did he put the filial fish in the Big Mac and just eat them one after the other. What is wrong with you? Okay, can I just say? You have to, you have to say. First of all, I just like a week ago combined Cocoa Pebbles and Captain Crunch. That sounds good.

Okay, cereal you combine. I'm not saying genius, but you know, the streets are filled with people saying it. Okay, but- That does sound pretty good. How do you combine filet of fish with anything? He calls it the old surf and turf. That's crazy. I like, look, they're burgers, even that's a challenge. And I like combining things, but a filet of fish with something.

No, don't do that, brother. Yeah, so look, some people are saying that's a lot of food for a 79 year old man to be consuming. But I think that's that's coastal elitism, Trump double down. Literally go to KFC and get a double down and combine it with your filial fish. You should be in this breakfast, lunch, and dinner, buddy. Put some extra tartar sauce on it. I think it's great for you. But anyway, there are also signs that his hearing is poor.

He keeps looking like he's asleep during meetings, obviously. Although he says he's not falling asleep. He's just closing his eyes because it's relaxing and the media's catching him blinking. That one I think is a lie. Okay, no, no, look, that's my favorite. The thin blood we're gonna get to in a second is also awesome, but I'm not sleeping. I'm just blinking for long periods of time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And what's awesome is that now that some of Maga have begun to realize that he's a fraud, now they see it too and they're like, oh Jesus, I believe this guy. I know, right? And now these, no, I'm just blinking, hold on, hold on, I'm still blinking, hold on. Hold on, okay, come on brother, come on brother. And look, don't get me wrong, Ferris show in America, exercise is boring. Okay, hey. Look, you play basketball. Yeah, that's not boring, but that's exercise.

I hear you, I hear you, but the treadmill sucks and it is, like he's not wrong that exercise is not the most pleasant thing in the world. A lot of people think that, that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it, right? And that doesn't mean there isn't fun ways to do it, et cetera. And I'm so like, you know, you keep telling them to double down. I'm not as clear on that for a reason, I'll get to it in a second, but keep going. Yeah, I look, I think there's a lot of fun ways to exercise, I mean, and also he's super rich. And like, he could have like right wing celebrities come and like power lift with him or something. Like he could have, he could get some of his, like the Carolyn Leavitt clones or whatever to run alongside him or something.

Like he could, he loves watching TV, dude, you could have a TV on while you're on the treadmill, by the way. So anyway, I don't think he's being that. But his skin is obviously delicate, hence his bruised hands. Also there's reports of the aspirin that he takes every day and he says they say aspirin is good for thinning out the blood and I don't want thick blood pouring through my heart. I want nice thin blood pouring through my heart. Does that make sense?

No. I cannot believe that that's an actual quote. That's the craziest thing. No, no, I bet there's like a good solid percentage of the country that doesn't know the difference between thick and thin blood and they might go, oh yeah, all right. But remember, the bell curve exists, right? Yeah. So anyway, but for most people, like CNN bothered to bring out a medical expert.

And they're like, no, it's not whether your blood is thick like Campbell's soup or it's thin and nice and pours easily through your veins. No, if you have a thin blood that could cause excessive bleeding, which is not a good idea. idea. He's like, and it turns out, I don't know if you're about to get to this, but Trump is superstitious. And he's like, I've been doing this for 25 years, so I'm not going to stop now. Yeah.

And the wild thing is, and this has never happened before, the medical advice has changed over three decades and they don't advise you to do it. And also, he takes way more than they even used to advise people to take for that purpose. And it's not, it's not overall, it's not like you're going to have Bisquick blood if you don't take the aspirin, it's supposed to stop clots. He's so stupid, he's so stupid, but anyway. Just hold on real quick, medical experts say he's taking four times a healthy dose. So if you're actually pro Trump, you should want to tackle him and go, no, no, brother,

brother, don't take that much aspirin. And look at what it's already doing with the bruises and stuff. If you, I mean like, because Trump, some Trump voters still love Trump, right? Then you should hate that he's doing this because it's quickening his demise. But or if you want to live on a different planet and dangerous health, just to make him feel better, let's say, it's a free country. My concern is that he's the president, he's supposed to be busy, and he spent all of his time taking these pills. That's what, you gotta be more efficient, man, take a couple of bottles of aspirin, throw it in a blender, mix it up into a smoothie, take it, you got your whole year's supply.

It's just a lot of fish. It's much more efficient, throw the filet fish in there too. Anyway, so the Trump administration has said, no, he's totally cool, don't worry about it, bro, basically. They gave a summary of a Mayo Clinic AI-assisted analysis of Trump's electrocard that estimated his cardiac age to be that of a 65 year old. And let me just say, like I don't like Trump or whatever, I've been very sarcastic here, but can they have a doctor look at his thing? Like even the president just gets AI to look at it.

Give an actual doctor. Anyway, he posted this. This will make everybody feel better. The White House doctors, capital D doctors have just reported that I am in perfect health and that I aced, meaning was correct on 100% of the questions asked for the third straight time my cognitive examination, something which no other president or previous vice president was willing to take. They don't, again, it's a dementia test.

You just took another one. They're giving him more like dementia tests than they give him MRIs even. It's not normal to take that many. Anyway, I strongly believe that anyone running for president or vice president should be mandatorily forced to take a strong, meaningful, and proven cognitive examination. great country cannot be run by stupid or incompetent people, President DJT. So I am reassured. Cenk, what do you think?

Yeah, so he said he regretted taking that ultrasound because it became a political issue. No, brother, again, if it was Bernie, I'd be like take 10 ultrasounds. Like I want you to be safe and healthy way more than I care about a new cycle where somebody said you had an MRI or an ultrasound, who cares, right? I don't think that's simple. But he thinks the optics. are actually more important than the substance on everything, even his health.

Yeah, right? Which is a very dangerous thing to think when it comes to your health. Yeah, yeah, and that's why, like a lot of this stuff, like, so he's got cancals, okay, he's a thousand years old, he's got cancles, whatever. The bruising on the hand, I do think that they're hiding some sort of procedure or medicine that he's taking. I don't like the dishonesty or whatever. Here's what I know. It ain't from shaken hands. That's crazy. Like, come on, like seriously, if you're Maga, okay, so let's say he shook a thousand hands, which by the way, have you ever seen him shake tons of regular people's hands? And yet he's had the bruising for like two years now.

Let's say that that was why it happened and it happened and he got a big bruise. And there was all this critical news coverage about talking about him being a frail old man. Do you think he would ever shake another person's hand again and risk having that same thing? No, he can't stop it from happening. And the falling asleep, like we, you know, a lot of people just joke about he's falling asleep. Do you have any idea how angry he is when he gets caught falling asleep in public because it makes him look like Sleepy Joe? He can't stop falling asleep in public.

His aides cannot stop him from falling asleep in public. It's not about the fact that it's falling asleep, it's that they cannot stop it from happening, and that is kind of ominous, I think. He's just relaxing, he's just relaxing. I was just blanking, okay, so listen, nobody believes that it's from over shaking hands, unless he shook the hands of the entire kinesid and everybody in Mossad, which is now all of a sudden impossible. But okay, no, in all seriousness, yeah, even Maga knows that's not from shaking hands. He's taking too much aspirin or whatever he's doing. But like when he says, oh, but I got

good genetics, a lot of the left freaks out, because I always see that's fascist and blah, blah, blah. No, I actually think on that one, he didn't catch a good break on mental genetics if you ask me, because if you keep confusing a cognitive test for an IQ test, you didn't win that lottery. But on the physical stuff, I mean, this brother's been combining filet fish and quarter pounder and cheese his old life. And he's still like an ox at 79, right? So like 79 is an advanced age. By that time, Diane Feinstein's head or brain had almost fallen out of her ear by now. But anyway, so look, so I'm not worried about his health, his health seat, like these are minor things.

And if he, and if he turns out he screwed up and he didn't do it. enough exercise and he ate too much and then he dies because of it, well, that's on him, right? That's not like, it is what it is. You should be rooting, if you're a mager, you should be rooting for him to help be healthy. Me, here's what I think. Okay, one, I'm like so weirdo purist about stuff. So, and mainly about democracy. So the American people pick Donald Trump, they should get Donald Trump for the whole four years. And including the negative consequences. And then you go, okay, now I reassess, did that work out? Did that not work out, right? The second thing is, it's like people on the left were like, oh my God,

it'd be great if he died. Then you're gonna get JD Vance. How's that better? Like I think J.D. Vance might be worse. Like Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, like he's got the Israel and the tech and all the corporations, and he's smarter and younger. It'll be a more organized attempt autocracy, like Yarvin, their so-called philosopher that wants a monarchy, in other words, a dictatorship, says Trump was too slow, we should have done it right at the beginning and shock everyone. So if Vance comes in, Vance loves Yarwin. Is he then going to be like, shock and awe, let's go grab this thing. So Trump's the devil I know and the devil that was elected. So let's hope that he's okay. Make it the whole four years and see what happens.

I think that's worthy of like a full special, like which would be worse because I have I have thoughts about I do think Vance could be more dangerous in some ways. I also don't think he has some of the protective energy shields around him that Donald Trump has in some ways. But but anyway, the final thing I will say about the whole health stuff is I think it's interesting. All of this is very interesting. It's why I cover it on TDR, but mainly because of the dishonesty. Like I don't think, I don't think that Donald Trump owes us constant revelation revelations about his health or whatever. If he can physically do the job, then I think that that's pretty much enough.

The only reason why I sort of think they should be more honest than they are is because they chose to make a massive deal out of it with Joe Biden. Well, first of all, there is the tradition of actually putting out your medical information. And he, like with his taxes, decided not to do that. But then also, you guys can't talk about it for like four straight years. And then all of a sudden you don't care when it's Donald Trump. I mean, if you were consistent, and now you wanted to say, well, let's just get off of people's back about their health. Yeah, I don't think, I don't think we deserve to know, you know, what like brand of toothpaste Donald Trump takes or whatever.

But I do think that there's some hypocrisy here. Yeah. Anyway. So when we come back, J.D. Vance goes and kisses Elon Musk's ass in an effort to get his money back in the Republican Party. And mainly in J.D. Vance's coffers for 2028. Did it succeed? And what does that imply? corruption, we'll explain when we return.

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All right, John. Okay. Okay, let's jump into a couple more fascinating stories. Last year, Elon Musk very publicly stepped back from spending money on politics after his involvement in politics, mostly through Doggy and spending like $300 million getting Donald Trump elected, caused people to hate him and to hate Tesla and to start burning Tesla. In May of last year, he said that he was gonna do a lot less spending in the future.

Well, fast forward to the run up to the midterms, almost literally the first operation, to spend money in politics once again, what do you know? He's gonna spend a ton of money in politics. He put out this tweet in response to somebody tweeting that Musk was going to go all in on funding Republicans once again, and he replied, America is toast if the radical left wins. They will open the floodgates to illegal immigration and fraud won't be America anymore. And that's the sort of incredibly lazy stuff that you expect from a guy with a mediocre mind and no creativity whatsoever.

It's always gonna be illegal immigration, and it's always gonna be fraud, even though he was of course in charge of perhaps the single biggest iteration of fraud in the American government last year, firing tons of people, disrupting government services, and indeed government spending increased last year, that's the legacy of Doggy. But in any event, he of course spent hundreds of millions of dollars supporting Donald Trump and Republicans the last time around, and he apparently is going to do so again this year. The spending has already begun, but we don't get to know yet how much. much he's spending, there will at some point be disclosures. But even that isn't going to tell

us everything, as we'll get to. We know that he donated more than $290 million to Republican candidates last cycle, making him the top political donor by nearly $100 million. And $290 million is obviously a lot to campaigns. It's a lot for one of us. For him, it's nothing. It's change in his couch cushions. He gets billions from the US government, and then he puts a tiny fraction back into buying it. It's a great system. Also, last month, Sludge reported that his group America's Future received a $75 million totally anonymous donation. We have no idea who gave that money. I don't know if we will ever know who gave that money. But in any event, bear in mind last year, he had said, he wanted to seem cool and independent. So he said, we've

actually got a uniparty. The Republicans really suck, actually. They're never going to cut spending. So Republicans suck, Democrats suck. So I'm starting up my own party. Everybody get really hyped, I'm super cool, I'm doing my America party, and literally nothing came of that. He again, it's like most of the statements he makes, he just said it, and then it's in the wind. And the interesting thing I think for you, Jank, will be that apparently it was Vance that

went and got Musk to commit to supporting the Republicans and Trump once again. Yeah, so we had to start with why Doge failed to get to Vance to get the to get to Musk accidentally telling you which one is the better party, okay, between the Democrats and the Republicans. So why did Doge fail? They said, I'm gonna cut two trillion and then they cut like 13 cents. And so, and when they left all of this gigantic waste, fraud and abuse that even the right wing can see with their own eyes, right?

Because what a Doge cut? Doge cut from the average American, right, so oh, you're getting some sort of, you know, SNAP benefit or something like that we're going to take from you, right? They cut from the average American in terms of the people that they fired. They fired a couple hundred thousand government workers who are not rich, right, who are very much middle class American workers. So, okay, so those are all easy because all those folks have no power at all in Washington. They cut from every foreign government that doesn't have power, which is literally every foreign

government but Israel. So they're all gone, right? And all the aid projects are gone. But all of that doesn't amount to a hill of beans because those are the money allocated to the powerless, which is like 0.001% of the budget, right? The powerful get everything. So the minute you go to cut fraud or abuse, you go, oh, the oil companies are the most profitable companies in the world, but we're robbing the average guy in Kansas and Missouri to pay them

That's $35 billion every year, a gift. Why? That's obviously waste and fraud, but the oil companies are powerful. So Elon goes and goes, like he never even tried because he's a Trojan horse. We'll come back to that in a second, but if he did try, like, oh, oil companies, okay, we'll take that $35 billion back. That's like more than almost the rest of Doge combined, right? And they're like, no, the oil companies donate to Republicans. He's like, oh, okay, put that back in.

Oh, Israel, they have 21 billion extra because they were committing a genocide that Biden gave them. Well, let's take that back. Nope, Israel is powerful. You can't touch that. The Pentagon, let's cut it by $100 billion. Nope, you can't touch that. In fact, let's add $150 billion to it, right? So he didn't touch any of the powerful.

Now, the reason why is because he is the powerful. He didn't want, and he never wanted to actually cut. He only wanted to cut from the average guy to redistribute wealth even more to the top. He's not your friend, he's not your ally, he's the allies of Peter Thiel and Mark Zuckerberg and all the Silicon Valley bros, David Sachs, etc. These guys are trying to rob the American government of every dollar that it has. It's an extraction project. So when you go to actual abuse within the Pentagon, et cetera, and NASA, what did Elon Musk demand? I demand my people to be in charge of NASA and all those other departments. Why?

Because he wants billions and billions in subsidies directed towards SpaceX and Tesla and all of his companies. He's not there to kill waste fraud and abuse. He's there to give you more waste fraud and abuse. And so how did Vance partly get him back? He said, okay, we'll give you the guy you want in NASA. We'll give you all the crooked contracts that you wanted and that Doge was a Trojan horse for. Don't worry. Like, if you come back into the fold and help us defeat the Democrats, we'll be even more corrupt on your.

your behalf. And he's like, that sounds pretty good. I want more subsidies. And then he goes on Twitter, I'd like to cut waste fraud and abuse. Get out of here, man. You're such a fraud. And now MAGA is beginning to realize Musk is a fraud for two reasons. One, their fight over Trump, but like that didn't do that much because that was a confusing fight. They're both kind of for the rich and the powerful. But the real reason is, my God, Musk is just like with Trump and everyone else in power, is on his hands that needs to Netanyahu, and he's groveling to Israel. So they're like, oh, so you're not going to fix anything. You're one of the grovelers. You're one of the guys who are ripping

us off. So, all right, now, which party is better? Look, it's, you know me. I can't stand both parties. I think corporate Democrats and Republicans are on the same team. They're all robbing us together, et cetera, right? But apparently Musk thinks Democrats are definitely the less corrupt party. Because his only goal is corruption. He's like, I want more contracts for me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. He's literally saying it. He's like, well, how dare you not give SpaceX more and Tesla more, Tesla SpaceX?

And it's a Starlink, you have to give it to me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, cut from the average guy, fire them, fire them, give me money, right? So apparently, Vance went and got on his knees. at lunch and said, yes, sir, I will serve you as loyally as I serve Israel, as loyally as I serve Peter Thiel. And he's like, good boy. And he patted him on the head. I mean, Musk is so transparent. He's on X talking about the real problem is immigrants. Dude, you're an immigrant. Right? Immigrants have all the power. Well, other than the billionaire immigrants like you, they don't have any power. everything's a freaking lie. So if Vance gets back in office and he's going to try to use

hundreds of millions, maybe billions from from us to do it, it's just going to be a total technical, like the tech guys are going to move into the Oval Office into the new ballroom and it's gone. It's not our government at all. It'll be Silicon Valley's government, government of the billionaires, buy the billionaires for the billionaires. And Musk and Vance accidentally just told you that. Yeah. Yeah, the entire thing is disgusting. It's absolutely gross that he can he can just give 300 million and then get 10, 20 billion, with the fact that that's legal at all. And the fact that we continually be plagued by this grotesque, mediocre guy, what is he, what is he, what is he, what is he doing? What is he doing? Have you seen

what Grock's been doing recently? It's producing child pornography. That's what Grock has been doing the past couple of days because Musk doesn't care because he knows that's what people who love him want on Twitter. And so he gives it to him. It's absolutely grotesque. The disgusting racist deep fakes that are going around. There's a massive appetite for that. Oh, by the way, like the final reporting on Tesla for this year came out, it's doing absolutely terribly. Not hurting the stock at all because no, but none of the investors seem to care about the car part of Tesla. They're all sure that everybody's going to have an optimist robot or whatever. And so all of this is just built on cons and lies and hype.

And I cannot believe that people can't see through it. Yeah, look, I want people to understand the connective tissue. We talk a lot about Israel, right? Israel isn't the main problem. The main problem is anyone can buy our government. Yeah. Israel's just done it in kind of a spectacular and outrageous way. Like Elon Musk wants tens of billions of dollars more in subsidies.

And that's terrible, but it's part of a normal robbery where all the donors and all the corporations are robbing us. Israel took the money and committed a genocide with it and then rubbed it in our face. That's why it comes up so often. But the reality is look at that. The Israeli lobby gave Trump over $300 million. And to John's point, they got back tens of billions. They might get $100 billion back in the new memorandum of understanding. It's a great return on investment.

So Musk sees the same thing. He puts them $300 million, he gets back tens of billions and subsidies. So every single donor is looking at it, and the same thing with the oil company, same thing with the defense contractors. They look at it and they go, oh, they're letting us rob the place. All we have to give them is a dollar and they give us $1,000 back. Well, which moron wouldn't do that endlessly? Yeah.

Yeah. Do you think that like all those rich people gave Trump $350 million so far for his ballroom because they like marble as much as he does. No, they're going to get billions of dollars for that. It's just an endless well that they can throw bribes into. And Donald Trump doesn't care, he'll change the regulations of benefit them. He doesn't care about the country. He'll throw taxpayer dollars.

It's not his money, what does he care? None of this should be legal. They should be behind bars for this. Him for accepting the bribes, Elon Musk, forgiving them. If we were in a rational system, we would have that right now. But we only have a couple more minutes, so why don't we talk about one more story to close things out. Let's jump into this.

Okay, here's a... Please. We can come down. It's been a very, it's been a very weird time to be, I would say, a progressive Jewish person in the world. It has been very, it's been a very hard time with the conflation of, like, state ideologies with your religion that are, that in my, view are very different things.

So that right there is an excerpt of an interview with actor Ethan Slater, who you might know from the new wicked movies. I just just finished watching it last night and as SpongeBob square pants on Broadway. And he's on the Gianmarco Seresi's The Downside podcast talking about something that obviously, and you can sort of hear in his voice is a difficult thing to talk about, which is that right now he is Jewish, but he is progressive. He doesn't necessarily agree with some of the propaganda that we see floating around. And we'll get more into that interview, More of the video, but Cenk, what do you make of this? Yeah, I love this development, and I'm gonna halfway suggest something for Jewish Americans

that is said to Muslim Americans all the time, and I'm curious what you think about that. So we'll get to that right after you tell us all the facts. Yeah, so you saw in the video, he's referring to himself as a progressive Jew in that. He's been outspoken and condemning Israel for what they've done in Gaza. In fact, way back in December of 2023, he signed a letter written by the Charles E Smith Jewish day school alumni openly condemning Israel and asking for a ceasefire. You can see the actual post of that right here. And just in case Scott Jennings is watching, the first sentence is indicting Hamas for what they did. So you could just you could spare us yet again calling

for people to always condemn Hamas. He did, don't worry. He just also pointed out what Israel is doing right there. At the bottom is cropped, I can give you the actual text from that. He says, my Jewish education taught me that the world must never again stand by as violence and tragedy unfolds. As this letter articulates so well, we must extend that to communities beyond our own, beyond the Jewish people. And right now the Palestinians are under immediate threat from the state of Israel. My Jewish education also, by design, gave me a one-sided view of Israel and its need for self-defense and safety. But it is impossible for me to understand how Israel's treatment,

occupation, and current bombardment of Palestinians makes Jews anywhere any safer. That is why I sign this letter and that is why I support calls for a ceasefire. If you like me were raised within the Jewish community, please read this letter with open eyes and an open heart. And we can go to a little bit more of the appearance on that podcast where you can see what Ethan Slater has to say. It has been very, it's been a very hard time with the conflation of like state ideologies with your religion that are that in, in my view, are very different things.

But they, they become conflated in every way. And I think that that's really disastrous. And so there have been a lot of different kinds of tragedies that have been happening, right? Like having this shooting in Sydney, Australia. And at the same time, not at the same time, but over the past years, the horrible atrocities being committed so often in our name. So to have all of these things happening at once has been a really, crazy thing and it becomes hard. We talked a little bit about being Jewish, but it's hard to figure out how to go forward. And this year, I think sort of the small communities and connecting

with family and loved ones has been a really helpful path for me to figure out what it means to be Jewish and also politically aware in the world. And I'm glad that he's talking about it because I'm not Jewish, but I imagine it is probably very difficult to hold anything even approaching the positions that he has of the advocacy that he's done, the amount of attacks that you must get. I can only imagine the DMs that he has gotten and the threats against him and all that. I've heard similar things from other people in a similar situation as his. Jake, you said you had a theory. Yeah, look, one thing at a time. First of all, I want to, I love the events later's of the world and there's tons of them.

I just interviewed Jill Stein two days ago and she's, you know, at every Gaza, protests, et cetera, saying, and she explained to me in the interview, like when we got taught never again, I believed it. And so this is, this is the time to say never again. So did you mean it or didn't you mean it? So, you know, you know the long list, Dave Smith, Glenn Greenwald, Robert Greenwald, Ben Cohn, we could list, you know, literally millions of people who were Jewish who are against what's happening in Gaza and what the abuse of the current Israeli government. and most of the younger Jewish Americans. And so that leads to, and I understand this,

because we have similar dynamics in immigrant communities between the older crowd and the younger crowd, right? Older immigrants are more, if I'm just being blunt, loyal to their original home country, right? And in this case, it's a little bit different because a lot of Jewish Americans weren't Israelis, but they were taught Israel as to end all be all if Israel does not serve, does not, it could,

You could go away at any moment, it could not survive, and if that happens, we're all gonna die. Israel is our only protection, Israel is the greatest thing on earth. And you cannot move them from that position. A lot of older Turkish Americans that I know, you cannot move them on the Armenian genocide, on the Kurds, on anything, on anything. Because for them, the morality is not about truth or justice, morality is about supporting your own tribe. So now that's clashing with, whether it's younger Turkish Americans or younger Jewish

Americans with their elders and they're going, no, no, these are universal principles. And by the way, these are the principles of Judaism. Judaism is about fighting for the underdog, challenging authority, making sure that these kind of atrocities never happen. So sorry mom and dad, but I think you've got Judaism wrong, right? And then what's doubly bothering people like Ethan Slater, and I'm not putting words in his mouth because you just heard him say it, is the conflation. They're like, but now you guys are all going around, the Israel first crowd, the conservative

Jewish Americans that support Israel, et cetera, and saying if you criticize Israel, that means you're a Jew hater. But then you're saying that all Jews love what Israel's doing, but we don't love what Israel's doing. We don't want that genocide, and you're putting it on me by saying it's a Jewish thing. Don't do that, that's not fair, that's not accurate, and by the way, you're not just hurting me, you're hurting the religion by saying now the religion is pro-genocide. And if you're not pro-genocide, you're not a real Jew. Oh, that's a terrible thing to say. Like if

a anti-Semitic person said it, you'd be against it. But now it's Israel first crowd saying it, right? And so now the finally the standard that I was alluding to, John, now every time, and this happens a little less these days, but certainly after 9-11 for like two decades, right? It was anytime a Muslim does anything wrong in the world, a bombing, an attack, or anything, right? Every Muslim had to come out and say, we're so sorry, it's not us, they're wrong, blah, blah, blah. And every, you have to march. And if you don't say it, that means you love Muslim terrorism or whatever, right?

So now that was a totally unfair standard. They had nothing to do with it. What are you even asking them for? But now in this case, now I don't think we should do it to Jewish Americans either, right? But I'm a little conflicted about it because if you're a Jewish American, it is a little bit of your responsibility in this, because this is a different thing, because no one said that the radical Muslims or the terrorist Muslims represented all Muslims other than the people in power, like, like Dick Cheney. Like Dick Cheney and Netanyahu, right? So but the Israelis, the Israeli government, Israel first in America are all saying Jewish people love what Israel is doing in Gaza. So it's a little bit like if I would want to fight back, if I was Ethan Slater and he and he is fighting back in his own way and everybody fights back in their own way.

So either is saying what I think a lot of Jewish Americans should be saying, which is no, that doesn't. represent me, that doesn't represent Judaism, and stop conflating the two things, you're not helping us, you're hurting us. So that it's not a responsibility of you because you're Jewish and hence you're responsible for what Israel is doing. No, it's the opposite. It's what you're doing is you're standing up for Judaism. The better angels there and the better view, and I think the more accurate view of Judaism. Yeah. And you're trying to protect your religion by not letting the Netanyahu's, Ben Gavir's, Smotrich's, Mark Levins, Ben Shapiro's of the world, smear it by claiming that it represents murder, slaughter, occupation, and genocide.

I wouldn't want my religion represented by that in any way, shape, or form. Not that I have any left, but yeah. I'll leave that to them. I will just say, and he alluded to it with the state ideologies thing, to me, it's almost like a core principle. It is never acceptable to have a situation where you are being told, you can't. cannot criticize what politicians are doing. Because if you are, you're not engaging in politics or rhetoric, it's something else.

It's anti-Semitic or whatever. And I remember, I remember in the wake of 9-11 and the launch of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we had something like that. You could not criticize the war effort or you were being not, you had a different ideology, we're having a debate, you know, marketplace free ideas, you were being anti-American. Now you'll notice, of course, as soon as George W. Bush was not in charge, anymore, the Republicans certainly felt comfortable criticizing Barack Obama's foreign policy. But for a while, you supported the troops or you shut the hell up, or maybe lost your

jobs, or lost your position on cable news. And I'm sure there's other examples you can come up with where that sort of weird, protective field around a political party existed, and whether it's in the United States or it's in Israel, it should be unacceptable. Yeah, and I wanna be clear, I'm not saying every Jewish person has to come out and tell Which side are you on? I would never want to do that to anybody. I'm saying if you're on the side of peace and you're on the side of not conflating Judaism

with what the Israeli government is doing, I think it would be better for you and for all of us if you spoke out more often like Ethan is and Jill Stein is and Ben Cohen is and all of those people who are doing a wonderful job, I think of being progressives, it's not for me to decide, but let's put it this way. representing their religious background in a positive way much better than anyone in Israel first. And thank God that they are those progressive Jews that are fighting back. Because in a big, big way, they're protecting Judaism and Jewish people overall. Because it's then it gets harder for the bad guys to smear all Jews.

Yeah, I agree with that, right? Because it's just not true. It's definitely not anywhere close to all Jews. No group, no individuals within any larger group, race, religion, ethnicity, all agreed. That's not a thing that happens. So let's all be rational. And thank you, Ethan Slater. That was awesome. Okay, we got to take a break here.

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We appreciate it. All right, Sharon, what's next? We'll go with Mayor Mamdani, Jank. The New York City, well, New York City has a new mayor, and within hours of taking the oath of office, Israel's foreign ministry officially accused Zoran Mamdani of anti-Semitism on his very first day. Before we get to more,

Mondami's actual policy platform for the people of New York, give us your two cents, Jenk. Yeah, so Israel can F off. I'm not interested in their opinions on the mayor of New York and they have a racist policy that they're insisting on. We're gonna tell you about it in a second. And I love them, Mom Dani went and told them to pound sand. Yeah, that was great.

Yeah. That's great. He's sticking to, well, the things that got him elected, what the people, the mandate is. The attack stems from Omdani's immediate revocation of several executive orders issued by his predecessor, one, Eric Adams. As we said, we did it. He did it immediately. He posted it on the mayor's official website. We're talking about the scrapping of policies that prevented city officials from pursuing divestment or sanctions against Israel, the removal of the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism, which is a definition critics say has been weaponized, the silent, silence rather legitimate criticism of government policy. Israel's foreign ministry called it, quote, anti-Semitic gasoline on an open fire. Nowman, I mean, that's the quote, end quote.

Mamdani has repeatedly clarified that his criticism is rooted simply in human rights, his commitment to the dignity of all New Yorkers, including. the Jewish community, he repeatedly pledged to protect during his swearing in. Even quipped during the ceremony, quote, where else could a Muslim kid like me grow up eating bagels and locks every Sunday? Yet heritage minister in Israel, Amakai Elayahu has gone so far as to attack Mamdani's own Jewish supporters, claiming they have, quote, raised their hands in support of anti-Semitism in the heart of America. And there's more.

In addition to international pressure, we also have domestic bigotry on full display again from the legs of Senator Tommy Tuberville. After learning that Mamdani, the first Muslim mayor in New York City history chose to be sworn in with his hand on the Quran. Tuberville took to X to declare the enemy is inside the gates. This is a sitting U.S. Senator currently running for governor of Alabama calling the democratically elected mayor of the largest city in America, the enemy. Why simply because of his faith? Somerville didn't stop there. He recently called Islam a cult. Claim New York will be completely Muslim in a few years. So here we are day one of the new administration in America's most populated city. And instead of discussing how to enact the things Mamdani

won on, universal free child care, free buses, taxes on corporations to fund the public good, the narrative is being forcefully shifted to an international defense of Israel policy and racist fearmongering about the Koran. Expect it, Jen, but the fact that it's happened so soon and so, well, with such purpose. Yeah, so not at all surprising. So first of all, Israel makes a statement about New York's mayor and like, okay, what do you think of San Antonio's mayor? Oh, right, I don't care at all what you think. Who cares?

Oh, did the Filipino president make a statement about Cleveland's mayor? Why would we care? Go away. Go to your own country. Please leave us alone. Secondly, the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism is a joke and it's total trash. And what it says is if you criticize Israel, that's the equivalent of anti-Semitism. So you should be canceled and everyone should hate you and your life should be ruined.

Oh, okay, I'll accept that definition of anti-semitism. No, I won't. That's a stupid definition. It's purposely done to harass anyone who criticizes Israel. They say criticizing Zionism is anti-semitism. Wait, Zionism is supporting an ethno state. So wait, am I allowed to not criticize any ethno state? And they say, oh, no, no, it's okay.

If there's a Muslim ethno state, you should despise it. If there's a Christian ethno state, that's terrible. If there's a Jewish ethno state, that's awesome. And if you don't say that's awesome, you're an anti-Semite and you should lose your job. Okay, well, you guys are morons and liars, so I'm not interested in your stupid opinion. So IHRA is a fraudulent organization with a fraudulent definition that's meant to actually drive more bigotry and racism towards Muslims. and has nothing to do with protecting Jewish people, it has everything to do with protecting the sick government of Israel.

Okay, so now that I've made that clear, we can move on to BDS. So boycott divestment and sanction, they say, how dare you? And Mamdani points out, wait, look, this is an unconstitutional law to begin with. You're telling Americans to shut up and you're not allowed to criticize Israel, and if you do, we're going to take away your government contracts. Already wildly unconstitutional. Secondly, it applies to no other country. So you can criticize or boycott or sanction Peru or Mongolia or New Zealand, no one minds.

If you do it about Israel, that's illegal. No, it's not. No, it's not. That's not how our government works. That's not how our constitution works. I know in Israel, they love discrimination. They love thuggish behavior where they cancel anyone that doesn't bow down to the Israelis. But this is not Israel.

This is America. In America, we believe in freedom, including freedom of speech, and equality. I know that Israelis hate the idea of equality. They're like, the Palestinians should be occupied. Five and a half million people. No, they should be our slaves forever. We're never going to free them. And they haven't earned their freedom, as Alan Dershowitz says.

And they say, you have to agree with our racism. If you don't agree with our racism, you're a bigot. What? No, no, no, no. Every one of these Israel first people are deeply racist bigots, and I love that Mamdani got rid of their trash laws to that we're trying to intimidate, not Muslims. They're trying to intimidate the average American, including a lot of Jewish Americans in New York. And that's why they attack Jews first. The Israel is attacking Jewish people in New York. You're all anti-Semites.

You're now going to be on our hit list, and we're going to bring our thugs to intimidate you, you stupid Jews. You know, you know that Israel's better than Jewish people and more important than Jewish people, bow your head. No, they're not going to. I love those Jewish Americans who are saying, no, this isn't, even if I love Israel, no, we don't, we're not going to trash our First Amendment on behalf of another country. So Mamdani is being as pro-America, as America first as any mayor in the country. If you have a corrupt dirty governor or mayor working for Israel that pass these BDS laws trying to take away your First Amendment rights, understand that there are different governments bitch, their America last, and they're purposely passing an illegal unconstitutional law so that you are forced to bow your head to a foreign government. Mamdani is saying, no, I'm for America, and we're not going to do that, and we're going to love and protect our constitution.

So that's super clear. He kept one thing, which was the commission to study anti-Semitism. If those commissions actually studied anti-Semitism, I would support them. Nine out of ten times, the whole purpose of the commission is to say, oh, that guy was against Israel. Make sure that he can't get a government job. He can't get a government contract. Make sure that you intimidate his family and try to ruin his life in every imaginable way, right? So usually it has nothing to do with anti-semitism, but I understand you don't want to get rid of a commission on studying anti-semitism and there is some anti-semitism.

So if you make the commission do its actual work, no problem at all. I want to protect everybody from every religion. I want to protect Americans, no matter what their religion is. And so, lastly on Tuberville, the enemy within. Okay, well look, again, if you said it about any other religion, let's say it. Let's pick Judaism out of a hat. If a U.S. Senator said the enemy Jews are within the gates, we have to do something about the Jews, everybody would say, okay, censure, you should obviously step down immediately,

and you would all concede. There isn't a single person watching who wouldn't concede, that would be the number one issue in America, like everyone would be talking about it. Imagine if a Democratic senator said the Jewish enemies inside the gates. over, over. That person's career is over. It's 24-7 news cycle, congressional hearings. We have to give Israel more money. You said about Muslim Americans, everybody's like, who cares? It's not an issue at all. No one in mainstream media cares. And, you know, it's a zero issue. They don't care at all. So don't tell me that our government and our media doesn't

work for Israel. It's obvious they do. It's the most obvious thing in the world. Sharon. Yeah, we're going to take a quick social break. But before we go, I just love him. He's young. His policies are clear. He's standing on them firmly. But I wonder if, you know, we know so many young people support him, young Jewish people support Mamdani. Can they support him enough, insulate him enough in order to give his policies, his administration, just a chance, just a chance to get some things done? Or is the onslaught good, because this is just to be done. These are just words and calls to activate. But I just wonder if, I mean, there's never been this in New York before. And I wonder if there'll be an opportunity for him to at least, I don't know, try some things. Yeah, look, last thing I'll say it on this. No, Israel first is going to attack New York in every way possible. They're gonna try to make sure that the city itself fails while Mamdani is mayor.

So they can go, aha, you see the dirty Muslim ruined your son. city, everybody get back to bowing and kneeling for Israel. So New York, I'm sorry, but get ready for an attack from propaganda, economic, in every way from the Israelis, because they can't, they're so deeply racist. They can't stand the idea of a Muslim having any power anywhere, let alone in America, let alone in New York, and bigoted, racist, whatever you want to call them. And then on top of that, they can't stand the idea. that American politician wouldn't kneel to Israel. To them, that is an unimaginable thought.

So they will attack not just Mamdani, but the city of New York in every way they can to try to ruin Mamdani's term. And so if you're Jewish, Muslim, Christian, whatever you are in New York, brace for impact, Israel's coming to get you. Yeah, I worry, and I shouldn't say this, and I know we have to go,

and I feel like I'm already kind of getting an inkling of it, just sampling mainstream media, and cable news that those who should be firmly with him and against this kind of bigotry, some black leaders are already, seem to me, have been gotten to. And their support eroded, or at least taken out of the game. I mean, I shouldn't say it, but I just, this is what I'm, I'm hearing, seeing, and feeling that they've already been, not all, but some, key black leaders and support angles have been swooped away. Oh, 100%. Are you kidding me? The Israel First is so strong in this country.

Republican leaders, Democratic leaders, black leaders, you name it, it doesn't matter. Latino leaders, if you, why can track for you, show you, pundits, African American pundits, African American politicians, and how much money they've gotten their entire careers from A-PAC or the Israeli lobby. So that when there's a situation like this, they go, hey, all right, hey, person, let's leave it at that. It's your now job to get out on TV and attack the Muslim guy, attack this guy, attack that guy. And if Israel is being racist or bigoted, you're to say that their opponents are racist and bigoted and confuse people enough so that they leave the issue.

And that is the job of the dogs who take money from Israel and it has nothing do with race and it doesn't even have anything to do with parties. Israel First has bought a tremendous percentage of our media and our politicians and they all work for Israel. So if you see someone attacking Mamdani on economic issues, that's normal. If you see someone attacking Mom Dani because he's Muslim or that he doesn't kiss Israel's ass enough or he's anti-Semitic, that's a bitch for Israel. 99 out of 100 times. All right, we got to go. We'll be right back. All right.

All right, let's go to Twitch. Robo Blake says, Happy New Year, Jank. Do you think the Dems are going to take back to Congress and Senate in November? Happy New Year back to you. I think they're going to take the House almost for sure. I'm not positive about the Senate yet. But Republicans are on a lot of trouble. They haven't fixed the economy.

They haven't done anything. All they've done is tax cuts for the rich, subsidies to their corporate donors, and massive giveaways to Israel. That's it, period. And the country hates the direction we're going in. They're going to get punished. a lot of their voters are not going to show up. They're not going to come out to vote for this pile of garbage, this dumpster fire.

So they're probably going to get their clock cleaned in the house. Let's see what happens with the Senate. I mean, everything is so gerrymandered. It's so frustrating. But anyway, JRTJR, 972 says, I'm from New York City. And I have no interest in what a foreign nation has to say about my city and state. That's why I voted for a mayor to put New Yorkers first. Here, here, brother.

Back to Robo Blake for a second, don't underestimate Democrats' ability to lose elections. Like they should win 2026 in a landslide. It should be a tsunami, right? But the Democrats before the election will almost certainly come out and punch themselves in the face 200 times, right? They'll be like, oh, okay, now remember everybody, we also love Israel. Bam, bam, bam, bam. We would give them even more money.

bam bam bam oh no you know remember all the corporate CEOs love us bam bam bam so like yeah Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer can blow any election. Darth Haffei says I know my orthodox Jewish family thinks that all mainstream media is anti-Jewish I know it's hilarious unbelievable I would explain to them how they're not but I do want to preserve a relationship with my nephews I know look I empathize with you so much and it gets so personal inside families do whatever you're comfortable with don't don't push too far And yeah, the bias is so thick with each, honestly, with almost all the ethnic communities. I mean, the idea that you could think that mainstream media is anti-Jewish is the most preposterous idea ever, ever.

But for people who like believe in Israel to their core, they think that if you just even a centimeter, a millimeter of criticism of Israel means anti-Semitism. If all the only way that they would think that they were not anti-Semitic is if every cable news anchor is said, thank God for the genocide, we need to kill more Palestinians for Israel. They only took 53% of Gaza. They should have taken 103% of Gaza. Then they'd go, maybe they're fair to Israel a little bit, a little bit, right? So there's no end to it. But it's not just Jewish people at all.

A lot of the old world's immigrant communities are that biased. Theater goddess says doesn't the Quran include much of the Bible or at least the Old Testament, which is also known as the Torah? Oh yeah, it's the third book. In Islamic way of thinking, it's Old Testament, New Testament, Quran. And we call it the people of the book. But unfortunately, nobody knows that because our mainstream media is racist. All right, back on T.I.T. Jank is sharing with you guys. More news.

Red scared, Jank. We will draw this city closer together. We will replace the frigidity of rugged individualism with the warmth of collectivism. We just witnessed a well-trained communist, maybe a perfectly trained communist. And the warmth of collectivism line, which is send a share. shudder down the spines of all New Yorkers and then all Americans, because we're talking about the financial epicenter of America and the world here, is incredibly chilling. You know, the DSA has raised this kid and rugged individualism.

Give me a break. That's what built this country. There you have it. Right-wingers are having a collective aneurysm over Zoramundani's inaugural address in New York City yesterday. His promise to embrace collectivism has conservatives across the country accusing him of being the next Stalin. We're going to hear more about those conservatives in a second. But first, Jenk, your two cents. Yeah, so I didn't love the line about warmth of collectivism.

I'm going to tell you why in a minute. But do I agree with the right wingers flipping out over? No, I do not. So what do I believe? Well, good news. You're going to find out after you get all the facts of the story first. All right. So let's get into it. There are just a few we have here gathered for you of the hundreds of freakouts from conservatives online. We have Megan Kelly, of course. No, actually, we are Americans and we don't believe in that. Then you have Ron DeSantis. He got in on it, the warmth of collectivism. That always requires coercion and force. How many dead over the past 100 years due to collectivist ideologies? Former Congressman Mark Walker. wrote this, right out of Joseph Stalin's 1928 playbook, forcing collectivism on the Russian people,

taking away the individual's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Property is communism in its purest form. America's greatest threat now lies within. Representative Chip Roy added in some Islamophobia to hear for his fearmongering, rather. Marxists and the Islamists are the enemy, the mayor of New York, is both. Finally, the former Republican Congressman Joe Walsh criticized Mamdani, but also called out hypocritical MAGA loyalists. I reject what Mamdani says here, but I got to call out the hypocrisy of every MAGA Trump supporter out there. They're screaming communists while enthusiastically embracing a fascist in Trump.

And by the way, Maga, while you shout, we don't believe in collectivism in America. Remember that we don't believe in authoritarianism in America either. In your adoration from, you've conveniently forgotten that. Mamdani has made clear over and over again that he is not a communist. He's a democratic socialist. He promised to pursue those principles during his speech. Listen. Here is what I want you to expect from the administration that this morning moved into the building behind me.

We will answer to all New Yorkers, not to any billionaire or oligarch. who thinks they can buy our democracy. I was elected as a Democratic socialist, and I will govern as a Democratic socialist. I will not abandon my principles for fear of being deemed radical. As the great senator from Vermont once said, what's radical is a system which gives so much to so few and deny so many people the basic necessities of life.

We will strive each day to ensure that no new, Yorker is priced out of any one of those basic necessities. All right, so the speech, Jenk, was a hit with some clear miss with others. More on your thoughts, collectivism, and what stuck out, what bothered you even. Yeah, so we're gonna ask you guys too, because I'm curious what you guys think. Everybody has different opinion. You know, oftentimes you guys have different opinions. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that.

It's called America. So on t.yt.com, we're asking which you prefer? prefer, A, the warmth of collectivism, B, rugged of individualism, or C, a balance between the two. So I'm going to argue for a balance between the two. So I'm going to come back to that. I just wanted you to note in the videos that you saw there. Susan Saranen was in the crowd. That's not as surprising, but she's been a solid leftist throughout.

God bless her heart. John Torturo was in the crowd. Love you, John. Okay. And people are complaining. Oh sweet was sworn in on the Quran and like you're supposed to have something after that otherwise you're just saying I'm a bigot who hates Muslims that's all I that's literally all you're saying I'm not I'm not

putting words in your mouth he's sworn in on the Quran and why is that a problem what like Christians are sworn in on the Bible I assume Jewish folks are sworn in on Talmud Torah whatever it is why why can't he get sworn in on a Quran all right and the guy hold And I love this, because it's a beautiful picture of America was Bernie Sanders. So we have the most prominent, successful Jewish American politician in American history, helping to swear in a Muslim American as a mayor of New York because they agree on policy. We're supposed to put old ethnic hatred, strife differences aside when we come to America

and be Americans, and that's what Bernie and Zoran are, that's awesome. Now, back to the economic stuff, yeah, no, I think that I'm kind of torn on this. So he says basically that speech was, I'm going hard, I didn't come here for half measures. Well, that's after my own heart, so I like that, right? Now the problem is he's going to hard for Democratic socialism, and I'm not quite a Democratic Socialist, I'm a Democratic capitalist. Is it similar? It is similar, is it, there's a little bit of a difference, there is.

And so to me, I don't, when I hear collectivism, I don't even hear socialism. That does feel like more of a term that's a little further left than socialism. And so, but you know, everybody disagrees about what socialism means. So it's all like junk labels, but like that doesn't give me a lot of warmth because a lot of social countries have done great, Norway, Taiwan, depends on what you call socialists, right? Communist countries have not done great. They've done terrible and it's a, I don't agree with that system at all. It gives me no warmth at all, right?

But much more importantly than that guys, like this idea that you're gonna get to the right answer by going to one of the extremes is to me like absurd. So okay, rugged individualism, oh, I'm just one guy alone will do it, really? Have you ever seen just one guy be able to do anything? Okay, let's ask the simplest question of all time. What is stronger, an individual or a team? Duh, a team, right? So we have to be able to work together.

How are you gonna work together? How are you gonna have a military? How are you gonna have a military? How are you gonna have a fire department? If you don't work together, how are you going to protect one another? If you don't work together, obviously rugged individualism by itself cannot just be the answer. That's crazy talk. If you do collectivism at its extreme, and he's not necessarily saying it's that it's extreme,

but if you do it at its extreme, it does go against individualism. It says, no, the collective is more important than the individual, and sometimes the collective is more important than the individual, but not every time. And individual rights are super important and a cornerstone of this country. So my answer is a balance between making sure that every individual is protected and has their freedom to be an individual. But at the same time, we all work together to the best of our abilities on things we agree on to go way further ahead. Because if we're not working together as a united team, we're never going to be able to compete internationally or in any other way. We're never going to be able to get anything great done.

We got to the moon, we won World War II by working together. It wasn't one engineer going, hey NASA, I got this. It wasn't one general or one soldier that won World War II. It was the combined team of America, all of us together. Yeah, do you think Mamdani needs to double down, show more nuance, I guess I'll say. Because when it comes to landlords versus affordable housing and tenants, is he really saying I want all landlords to fail? No, what he's saying is we're so far out of whack over here that I've got to level things out a little bit or most people will lose. Yeah. So look, there's a couple of reasons why I support Mamdani that are really important.

One, you know, Israel was so adamant that no one that they haven't pre-approved be allowed to win an American election. So I'm ecstatic that Israel first lost. And that's a, it's important for the rest of the country, not just New York. Number two, it's drives race and biggest like Chip Roy crazy. So, so Chip Roy, what is that? Oh, he calls him an Islamist, but he is definitely not an Islamist, he's just Muslim. He's never said he was in favor of radical Islam, fundamentalist Islam, he's never said anything like that. So basically, Chip Rowing is saying, I hate all Muslims, and I want pieces of crap like that to lose and to cry, okay?

So that's a second reason. But third reason is the one you're alluding to, which is let's try things. Let's elect people who are going to try things for the average American. And if they are, let them run with it. I don't have to agree. I don't have to agree if it's a right-winger. I don't have to agree if someone further left than me. And the bottom line, to your point, Sharon, is what's going to happen is Mom Dhani's going to try hard,

and I want him to try as hard as possible. And he's going to run into a huge amount of opposition. And so that together might move it from the extreme we're in now closer to the center, right? He'll never get to the far, far left because a million people in New York, including Wall Street, will stop him, right? So if he tries as hard as he can, maybe we get closer to the center and away from the extremes that we've been in. Yeah, it makes sense, you know, just that little bit of shift, things are so far out of whack and people can't survive. We'll take another quick social break and we'll be right back. We're going to be able to be.

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Let's go to members on t-y-t.com. When Spirit Feather says nuance, I love when Jenk talks nuance. Yeah, I heard, I'm not going to get into old beefs, but I heard a year ago another left-wing show saying that they were now against nuance. And we had to be 100% on some left-wing ideology they believe was the correct one. No, I'm not in favor of anyone who doesn't do nuance because they're basically saying, I'm shutting off my brain and I'm choosing to be an idiot. Oh no, things aren't balanced.

No, you should always go to one extreme and that's a smart thing to do. No, it's not, it's literally intellectual surrender. It's saying I can't figure out what's right. So I'll just go to an extreme and go, duh, I go do nuance. So be wary, if somebody says they don't do nuance, run screaming from the best, building. That person is an idiot and an extremist and will only cause you harm. I thought they were only on the right long time ago. I remember when everybody on the left agreed that Bush was an idiot for saying I don't do nuance. Now apparently

some people on the left are like, yes, we're just like Bush. We don't do nuance. Well, congrats. Peter Gadda says, doesn't the Quran include much of the Bible? Oh, yeah, I already read that one. Panic on Funketron says the advantage of J.D. Vance is that he's pretty universally hated. He has a charisma of a crap taco. Taco. That's kind of funny, and it's funny the way he wrote it, which was S. But Ernest O. Flowerchild says jacket over T-shirt is a Miami Vice thing, isn't it? No, I invented it. No, of course. It originally was from Miami Vice.

Softball Dragon says, do we think Melania and J.D. Vance have TDR-style countdown calendars to when they're hoping that Donald gets his tea time in hell? I don't know. Does J.D. Vance want to be president, ogors. But of the two, who's rooting for that more? Probably Melania. Okay, but I'm just guessing. We'll be back. Sharon and Fat Satter, thank you for gifting five memberships on YouTube. You're awesome. Sharon, what's next? Well, it's on TikTok. If TikTok were owned by Jewish people, nobody has a problem with that.

TikTok is owned by Netanyahu aligned IDF donors, the Ellison family. TikTok being owned by Jewish people isn't a problem. TikTok being owned by pro-IDF donating Zionist that want to game the algorithms in the same way that Elon must game the algorithms is that's the clear problem. Let's get your two cents on this, Jang, right off the bat. Yeah. Yeah, so I love that. And she's got more where that came from and we'll show you the whole clip in a second. But they make you have this nonsense debate about whether you're against Jewish people owning things.

Of course, that's not the issue. The issue is, is it Israeli propaganda or not? And so she has a great take on it. We'll let her tell you more. And then we'll discuss what the reality is. All right. So that clip of Jennifer Welch was from earlier this week. She went on to call out Democrats for aiding and abetting Israel's rampage in Gaza.

Zionists have this idea that they are, you know, better than. And so you have this desire to propagandize a public and whitewash history in real time. And they even have partners in it in the Democratic Party a lot. And the American public is having a great awakening to this. And so as I see Benjamin Netanyahu sit there and praise Trump, like that. What I think is, oh, Trump allowed him to just start bulldozing everything. Now, listen, Biden had a huge part in what happened. And I think that Kamala not coming out in her campaign and being more vocal and having Palestinian voices at the DNC suppress the vote of the base.

Finally, Welch covered DropSight news reported on how Israel has continued to murder Palestinians after the ceasefire. She then argued that trying to censor the media on behalf of Israel will only lead to more anti-Semitism. Listen. That last part where DropSight throws in the facts as what's happened since the ceasefire. That is what the Larry Ellison's, the Benjamin Netanyahu's, and the Barry Weiss don't want you to know. know. That's why they're trying to kill journalism. That's why they're taking this weaponizing anti-Semitism in universities and in media, because facts have a problem. Facts are a problem for them, just like for the MAGA movement, facts are a problem for them. And the short-sighted fools

errand of this is what they're doing is they are incubating anti-Semitism at such a fever pitch rate. People are dismissive of Gen Z and they think, okay, they get their news from TikTok. They don't know anything. They do get their news from TikTok, but they vet it and they figure out who are the truth tellers on TikTok and who aren't the truth sellers on TikTok. And they see with their own eyes and they read the facts about since the ceasefire, over 400 civilians killed. Thank, is she right that the way Ellison and others are taking over media, turning facts upside down on their head? It is leading to more anti-Semitism. Of course she's right.

She's 100% right about all this. What I find to be amusing is a lot of Israel first people are spreading this clip. And they're like, can you believe she said that? I was like, please send it to more people. Yeah, I can believe it and it's 100% accurate. Where's the lie? So are they saying like, oh, can you believe she criticized Biden and Kamala Harris for kissing Israel's ass? That's a verifiable fact, right?

They gave them Israel everything they wanted. They were willing to lose the election to serve Israel. That's how loyal they were. And so look, you get to the heart of the issue, Jewish people owning something. Who cares? Are you crazy? I had David Duke on the show back in 2015. We had this argument nonstop for about an hour and he would say, oh, Jewish people own this thing or that thing in the media. And then I, every time we listen to the Jewish person, I'd list a non-Jewish person, right? So that's not a thing. Americans can own anything they want and your race, religion, etc. should never matter into that.

But that's not the issue here, that's what the Israel first guys want you to think is the issue. The reality is Larry Ellison is a guy who is completely loyal to Israel, and they are buying TikTok on behalf of Israel. Now, why do I say that? Is it just Larry Ellis is Jewish? No, I didn't even know he was Jewish. And so it turns out Larry Ellison gave $16 million in charity to the IDF in the middle of the genocide. He's like, hey, you guys didn't kill enough Palestinians, I want you to murder more. Here's 16 million, kill as many as you can.

It turns out we now have emails from, and that's me putting, you know, paraphrasing what I believe he means by giving them 16 million in the middle of a genocide. If somebody gave 16 million to the Nazis in the middle of the Holocaust, you would say, well, that doesn't speak well of them, right? And so it would not be an anti-German position to point that out. If you say, oh, you can't make that comparison, too late, I already made it, and you could suck it. So I don't care that you keep pretending that you're offended by things. And yes, a lot of people are pretending to be offended.

So Larry Ellison in 2015, talked to the Israeli ambassador and said, I'm going to vet Marco Rubio on behalf of Israel. And then he did talk to Marco Rubio, and then he wrote back to the ambassador and saying, yes, he's pro-Israel. So I gave him $5 million for his presidential campaign. by the way, against Donald Trump. So we have internal emails where they say, I am working on behalf of Israel. And then Netanyahu came out and said, yeah, we're buying TikTok on behalf of Israel. And so they said it. If you want to call people anti-Semites, call them anti-Semites, because they're the ones saying it.

Right. So there's no question about it. She's 100% right. And TikTok, you can go buy that and then turn it into some Israeli propaganda outlet. good luck to you. We're all going to leave and we're not going to be tricked by your stupid Israel first propaganda. The minute it happens, we're going to go to a different platform. And I hope that Larry Ellison and his dumb son lose tens of billions of dollars on TikTok. So keep spreading what Jennifer Walsh is saying, because it's a million percent right.

Yeah. And we'll see. I mean, they're going to go hard, hard, and then harder on this. And one side can't lose is their stance on it. Let's get to this one. Bannon's beef. Are people teasing right now that Samantha Powers and Hillary Clinton must somehow have gotten invited to the Marlago New Year's Eve celebration because the president coming out today saying, hey, we're locked and loaded. Isn't that straight from the Samantha Powers and Hillary Clinton playbook?

So that's Steve Bannon calling Donald Trump Hillary Clinton. Clinton. Damn. And I love it and he is right. Hillary Clinton was a neocon. Samantha Powers turned into a neocon and Donald Trump's a neocon. No matter who you vote for, you always get a neocon. But what's different is that the right wing now has joined the fight, the right wing voters, and realizes they were duped. And remember, it's not like the Democrats in the left weren't duped, Joe, all the Democratic leaders said they were for peace, then Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, all voted for their Iraq war. And then they got into office. And what did Joe Biden do? Oh, Israel's doing a monstrous war slash genocide on the civilians in Gaza? Great. Here's $21 billion

for more of that war. So corporate Democrats and corporate republicans are the same. They work for their donors, including Israel. We've known that from day one. And it is amazing to see Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, as so many on the right now saying, you guys were right. And we don't want this warmongers, and we don't want to be run by a different, a foreign government. Sharon, what do you think? I couldn't agree more. Let's get to more of what Bannon did today, though, because as he hammered President Donald Trump for floating the U.S. regime change operation in Iran, let's get to why he thinks the U.S. should stay out of that conflict? Just enforce the sanctions and let the mullahs try to run the economy as they're running it

because they don't know what they're doing, running it by Islamic law and not by the laws of free market economy. The economy will crash and the Persian people will overthrow these guys, just like they overthrew the Shah. Let the Persian people take care of this. You can't intrude on this thing. The more you intrude, the more the mullahs are going to dig in and say, this is the great Satan that's doing this. And you're going to have a, you're going to have a bigger and longer mess than you can have. You've got the opportunity right now for the people in Persia to overthrow these demons. Keep your sanctions on. And like I say, once again, cut off the oil. Don't let and monetize all to the Chinese Communist Party.

So on the other end of the spectrum, we have Mark Levin, who is ecstatic at the prospect of regime change. Today, this is what he wrote on X. If the Iranian regime falls and is replaced by Western friendly government, it'll be as big as the tearing down of the Berlin Wall and the entire wall between Ben East and West Germany. It'll further underscore the crucial alliance between the United States and Israel, and one of the greatest partnerships between two historic and courageous leaders, Trump and Netanyahu, whose bold actions precipitated what we are witnessing. The neo-fascist, Woe Reich, and Marxist Islamists, both homegrown and imported, are a cancer on human freedom, the civil society and Judeo-Christian Western values. They must be forced into oblivion. We meant it when we said ecstatic, Cenk.

Yeah, so look, Mark Levin has turned into our top ally. No one is flipping the right wing against Israel more than Mark Levin is. So keep going, brother, keep going, you got this. Oh yeah, call everyone a Nazi. Call everyone in the right wing a Nazi. Call Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly, Steve Bannon, tell them that they all have to serve Israel. And if they don't, get on their knees and pledge their loyalty to a, foreign government, they're not really right wingers. Keep going, brother. I couldn't do half as

good a job as Mark Lev in turning the right wing against Israel and their genocide. So look, guys, don't get thrown by Steve Bannon agreeing with us. He said a couple of things there I didn't agree with. So what, right? So if he's coming to our side saying no war with Iran, that has been our position for 20 straight years. Take yes for an answer. Unite as a country against regime change, against war with Iran, and against following Israel's orders. I love a united America. Let's keep going in that direction. When we come back, the revolution, we've got somebody running for a state controller comptroller in New York. And here we go again, Israel first is mad at him. Why? You're going to find out when we come back.

awesome happy new year and we'll see you soon I'm going to be able to be. I'm going to be. All right, welcome to the revolution. There's a show where we are encouraging people to change our government. Democrats, Republicans, it doesn't matter. Everybody unite to get our government back from the donor class. And we're interviewing a lot of folks from different parts of the political spectrum who have an idea for change. And we've got one of those for you tonight. Raj Goyle is

running for New York State Comptroller. And he's being attacked by Israel first. Of course, why? My guess is he's not, he has not pledged to serve Israel loyally while being the comptroller for an American state. But we're going to find out because Raj is here. Welcome, brother. Jenk, thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah, no problem. Before we get to the Israel issues, what is a comptroller? Well, I like to say in Hennedy, it's, you know, it's Rod Doyle in New York. So, no, the state controller in New York State is one of the most powerful state executive jobs in all of America. And it is, and what it does, it's the chief fiscal officer of New York State. And one of the things, Jenck, that we should talk about tonight, which I'm excited to do, is Democrats have let these jobs go. These are very powerful jobs.

And even though Republicans are absolutely terrible in managing the economy, they blow budget deficits sky high. Still voters give Republicans better marks on managing the economy. One of the reasons is because on the money jobs, we let them go. And we don't really prioritize them. We think of them as paper pushing back water offices, when in reality the New York State Comptroller runs with sole trusteeship, a $300 billion pension fund, and is the state auditor. Every penny of public dollars in New York York State essentially can be audited and investigated for inefficiency, waste fraud, and abuse by this office. And right now, it's sitting there with a 40-year Albany incumbent who does none of these things. And it's a huge weapon in the war against affordability crisis that is laying

fallow right now. No, I love what you're saying, Raj, because you're totally right. First of all, money is kind of everything. And so where's our money going? And a huge problem for Democrats. honestly, in places like California have been, hey, we give tons of money to address homelessness or whatever. And then you ask him where to go. And they're like, I don't know. I don't know is not an acceptable answer. And so, and you could do a lot of good in that in that position. So tell me a little bit about the incumbent. When is the race? Who's the incumbent and why do you think he's not doing a good job? So the current incumbent is guy named Tom DeNapley. And so he's had the job. He was appointed to it by a speaker of the assembly here in New York, Shelly Silver, who actually ended up being

arrested for corruption and passed away in prison because of those charges. And Tom DeNapley previously was a 20-year member of the assembly in Albany. So he's been around Albany for 40 years. He prides himself on not using a computer. He had a story in Politico last summer where he said, if you want to email him, you email his assistant and she prints it out for him. And so one of the reasons I mentioned that is that right now we are not in normal. times. We need fighters and not folders, as you know. We need people who will stand up to this authoritarian president who will stand up for the working class of New York State of America and say that we're going to use every molecule of power at our disposal to fight for New Yorkers.

And you know, when I grew up as a brown kid in Kansas in the 80s, reading everything I could about the Democratic Party and biving everything about Roosevelt and Kennedy and Johnson and I was very, very up to speed on the civil rights movement. It's why I'm being a civil rights lawyer when I was right out of law school. What I understood, Jank, about the Democratic Party was that there was one central core thesis, which was obtain political power and use it to help people. That's why Lyndon Johnson sacrificed a 50-year Democratic coalition to do the right thing on voting rights and on civil rights. That Democratic Party is what I think the moment that we're in in America is,

the internal fight within the Democratic Party is about that dividing line. And the reason I'm running is that this office is, as I said, a very powerful tool, a huge multi-headed weapon to fight for New Yorkers, and nothing is being done right now on that front. Yeah, and not only do you have those old incumbents who are not doing anything, how can you be a comptroller without using a computer? It's ludicrous. Everything's on a spreadsheet. It's ludicrous not to use a computer. But so that's part of the problem.

The second problem is that they're usually the suckers at the table. So if you, for example, know the history of the 2008 crash, or if you just read the big short or watched the movie, you know that the state pension funds were the ones that were taking advantage of because they feel like, oh, that's unsophisticated people. And it's easier to rob the taxpayers because they put in incompetent people who don't do anything. in this follow orders. And then there's a third problem of who do they actually serve, right? So, oh, Jenk, if I could, that comment you're making, I'd love to riff on that because what I have found when I was in the private sector, I started a company when I was 40 and we successfully sold it. It was rooting out waste and fraud and corporate budgets. So I know about the way the Wall Street is wired. And whenever there is complexity and whenever there is layers of like obfuscation, watch your

wallet. Because that's exactly what you're getting at because they pull the wool over people. eyes when you know when you one of the one of the most important consumer issues out there is just truth and invoicing one of the things that have you ever looked at your con ed bill or the Verizon bill you need it's it's like in hieroglyphics there's a charge here and then it's sometimes in arrears and it's just very complicated and so when there is complication and complexity there is often there is often that going on where there is money moving from your pocket that shouldn't be moving out of your pocket and that is one of the things I've learned in the business world

Yeah, I mean, look, Roger is a really interesting background. He ran that business, sold it, he went to Harvard Law School. He was at the NWCP Legal Defense Fund, Public Citizen, ACLU, Center for American Progress, and was a state rep in Kansas, actually. Come back in a second. But so Israel first is mad at you because you're saying, talking about selling for all foreign bonds. And so obviously you've defied Israel, so that's a huge problem. for you, we'll talk about how it might be a problem.

But first, what are you doing that's got them agitated or proposing? Yeah, so yeah, so Jenk, all that I said was very simple, which is I was looking at, you know, I've had a lot of conversations, people asked about this issue. I'm running for a state comptroller to lower utility bills to provide affordable housing, to provide child here to help the affordability agenda. But also there is this issue of the foreign bond portfolio. So out of a $300 billion pension fund, there are $350 million in the state of Israel and foreign bonds. and about $230 million in all the rest of the world combined.

And I said very simply, we should cancel the foreign bond program and bring the money home to New York. We should be investing in New York and New Yorkers. That is the fundamental premise of good money management of the fiduciary duty that we all have as comptroller because it is actually political favoritism right now with that program. And so that's what we should end. And of course, we have the moral argument, which is right now public dollars are going as a blank check to war crimes going on in Gaza.

Now I have been very, very clear. We can hold two things in truth at once, which is October 7 was a heinous war crime, perpetrated by Hamas, horrifying things. We shouldn't shy away from that one bit. But we should also say that we can criticize and hold accountable the government of Israel or its actions and its current right-wing leader. And so that's why the moral thing to do and the fiduciary common sense thing to do is to cancel this foreign bond program.

Okay. So tell us a little bit more about foreign bonds. So what is the New York pension fund buys them and gets a return? That's right. And is it a good return? How does it help New York and how does it help Israel? Yes, it's a very mediocre return. It is not really, it is not some sort of incredibly great deal with upside. It is, it is a fair to middle and deal. And so as I said, before what we could be investing in with that money is bonds right here in New York. We could we could absolutely the current comptroller dismisses the idea it makes my blood boil that we shouldn't invest in affordable housing, that we shouldn't help the pensioners and the people of New York live a better life. We should be investing in things that not only have

a better rate of return because the current comptroller has actually had four returns. He has underperformed the New York City pension fund. One of the other issues, Jenks that I've talked about is divesting the pension fund from fossil fuels. And I have made that pledge. My opponents have not. And the New York City pension fund executed this and did this junk. And they had better returns than New York State pension fund. So we have the double whammy here, which is an office asleep at the switch, not responding to the crisis that New Yorkers are facing. New Yorkers having to choose between medicine and housing between paying their rent and taking their kid to the doctor. We know what's going on out there. And also, we should have more

money in the pensioners back pocket. And we don't. So you mentioned another interesting fact in there, which is that New York has approximately $350 million in Israeli bonds and $230 million in the rest of the world combined. So if we if in New York State or New York City has invested so much more into Israel than the rest of the world combined, is Israel's rate of return from their bonds so much better than the rest of the planet that we've favored them in New York City over everyone else? Yes, from an obvious perspective, let's be very clear. There is not a money manager on planet Earth that would say if you are constructing a balanced

portfolio that you would have this distribution. Nobody could on its face, nobody could make that argument, prima facie. But there is a history to this program. And that history is understood. And so there is a special program for the bonds of it. Israel. And so what I have said, and what I think many others have said, is that it is time, life does change, facts on the ground change. And right now, a program that might have seemed appropriate decades ago no longer does in the world that we're in and what New Yorkers feel.

And again, there is a morality argument in which we should not be funding human rights violations. And we should have people who are unafraid to talk about that. And I just got to say, Jack on a personal note, you know, this story popped yesterday. I have had some of the most vicious personal texts from dear friends of ours or people I thought were friends. I've called me terrible names. Of course, we are political candidates. We're fundraising. And we actually have a deadline 10 days from now. And it's cost me, you know, quite seriously. And so, but I've had to stand up and do what I think is best for the people of New York. What's best for my fiduciary duty as perhaps the next comptroller of the state of New York,

if I have that great honor to do, to have. And in doing so, I know that the flak I'm taking pails in comparison to the affordability prices that we have out there and the choices that people are having to make. So I've made that choice. I'm proud of it. I'm sticking to my position on this because I know it's the right one. Yeah. And we'll put Roger's website down below as a link in the description box so you can click on it and you're seeing it on the screen throughout the interview. And because it does. There are consequences, political, financial consequences when you don't bow your head to Israel. I mean, Raj, last thing on this. I mean, let's, we're actually two quick things on it. One is, like, there is constantly a different rule for

Israel. So I often use a Turkish example because I'm Turkish. So if I said, like, okay, now The Turkish bonds are less than, you know, other countries, let's say, you know, and I'm sure the Israeli bonds are somewhere in the middle, right? I'm sure there are countries that have lower rates of return and higher rates of return, et cetera. Let's assume the Filipinos, the Brazilians, et cetera, have higher return and low risk. And I go, no, the great majority of our bonds have to be Turkish bonds. People would go, that's strange.

And, Raj, if you came in and you're like, no, I insist, The rest of the world gets 230 million, but India gets 350 million. People will go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing, right? But when it comes to Israel, they're like, they reverse it. If you don't give it disproportional to Israel, you're somehow anti-Semitic. Is that not borderline insane? Well, I'm really glad you raised that. And I want to one fact, and then I want to get to that point, which is Moody's actually

downgraded and said the Israel bonds are riskier than that. they were in the past. So it's another reason from a fiduciary duty perspective that it is not the wisest investment. But to your larger point, Jank, I'd really love to wade right into there. Because at the end of the day, on a very personal note, I understand in all these conversations and thousands of hours and thousands of conversations, I think there is a fundamental dividing line. And I'm 50, I know I know look a day over 49, but I'm 50 years old. And I know that for a bunch of folks, I'm certainly of a certain generation, and some people I love and hold and cherish so close to my wife and I, the criticism of the state of Israel is equivalent and tantamount to anti-Semitism, to their mindset.

And I understand where they're coming from. But what I can just say very personally in the logic that I hold and looking at it from my head and my heart, I can't cross that bridge. When I look at it, I say, I can love and cherish the Jewish people. I can so vigorously denounce the anti-Jew, the Bondi Beach massacre, which was clearly against Jewish people and was out there to kill Jews. And at the same time, I could hold accountable a foreign state and a military for its actions. We can hold both these of these things to be true. And I understand some people and the people have sent me very vicious texts in the last 24 hours and so on. They don't believe that.

They believe that to criticize the state of Israel is to be anti-Semitic. And that is just a dividing line where I think obviously reasonable people have to disagree. Yeah, I actually don't think they're reasonable people. I know tons of people like that too. And no, they're wrong. Sorry. Like they call us names all the time. I think they're bigots.

I think they're racist. And I think that they think that killing Palestinians is no big deal. They think that only Israeli lives matter. And no, none of us are anti-Semitic. It's absurd. Like, I would never tolerate anti-Semitism. I would never tolerate Jewish Americans or Jewish New Yorkers being treated different than any other religion. That would be absurd.

And by the way, I mean, as immigrants, right? You're, you know, your families, I believe, is from India. And mine is from Turkey. The very last thing immigrants want is discrimination towards anybody, because we'll be first up, right? Well, 100% because one of the things that's most important is to point out that as an American, which is the value and the identity that we hold most dear, I criticize the American government all the time, not just if the Republicans or Democrats, but if the United States military commits a human rights violation, we call that out.

If the government, I am a proud Indian American, but you can criticize them there are under Modi or any prime minister of India all day long. that is part of the Democratic small D process. And so I think that's the new era that we're in. And what I sense just very personally, and I think, you know this as well, there is a generational transition going on. This is why we saw right here in New York, we saw with the energy I was out there, the swearing in for Zoron yesterday. I mean, I think I'm still recovering.

They said it was 14 degrees. It felt like negative 15 out there. But it was, of course, a very joyous day. And what you saw there was, I think what also bothers many people is that many, you many Jewish New Yorkers were running the Zohan campaign. And obviously, he did much better with Jewish New Yorkers than a lot of people thought. So we are not only seeing there is not a monolithic view within the Jewish community, but as I said, this dividing line has emerged in which there are now, I think, a great number of people who realize that a foreign state and a military

can be held accountable and evaluated on its own merits, having nothing to do with the fact that we love and cherish our Jewish brothers and sisters. Yeah, Israel first is now attacking Jewish Americans too. They are calling himself haters. They're attacking young Jews who voted for Mamdani, on and on, right? Because they're obsessed. They've lost their minds. They're detached from reality.

So if I called someone who criticized Erdogan, the current president of Turkey, an anti-Turkish racist for doing that, everybody would look at me like I have two heads. What do you mean? That's a ludicrous thing to say, right? But they all say it in unison, like honestly deranged people. Criticizing Israel is anti-Semitic, you're all hate Jews. You guys sound like lunatics who just escaped from an asylum.

I'm not interested in that. Okay, so now, Raj, last thing on this is, you know, you see you mentioned the tax and stuff. So how else has it affected you personally? Are they saying that they're not going to donate or that there's going to be consequences? Look, I've had, I literally right before I went on air had a, had a note from a good friend, I thought to be a good friend who said, you know, he's donated to my opponent and that he never, and I asked, I said, would you like to talk? He said, no, he wouldn't. He just went off the New York Post article. And so one of the things that, that, you know, I'm grappling with. And of course, that's life in the public arena. And I don't shrink from it at all. I embrace this process. I'm very, very excited about this campaign. We're grabbing more momentum by, the day and we're realizing that people in New York and the Democratic Party, they want change. They are now realizing the power of this office, so it's growing by the day. But obviously, I have to say as a human being, it's not fun to lose friendships and to lose

people who you held dear. But I'm going to stick to my position. And I'm going to stand on the principle that I know, which is that I think is best for New Yorkers and for me personally. And the fact that, you know, we need a partner. And this mayor, this new mayor, needs a partner in state government to tackle this affordability crisis. And that's the North Star. At the end of the day, we can talk about all these other issues all day long, Jane. But what I care about most is letting New Yorkers live the best life they can. I talked to my good friend today who runs a small business. Her husband runs a small business. She said, there is no relief for me anywhere. My husband's business is about to close. We are barely making ends meet. And these

These are wonderful people who are very high quality in their profession, and they can't make it here. And they're lifelong New Yorkers, they love New York, they don't want to leave. So that's the issue that we're all grappling with, and that's the North Star of my campaign, and should be the North Star of the State Comptroller's Office. Yeah, and by the way, Raj, they were never your friends. So that same thing has happened to me a thousand times over. And most of my Jewish American friends, the overwhelming majority, are with me and they're worried about what Israel's are and they're real Americans and they're not worried about Israel first, et cetera. But a small percentage of even people I thought were friends say that I never want to see you again

because you've betrayed Israel. Well, so then that means you weren't a friend. I was your token Muslim friend, but only as long as I agreed with Israel. And the minute I didn't agree with Israel, you throw that person away because to you Israel is more important than a so-called friend or anything else, right? So those people are... Look, I've learned enough in life, Jenk, that, you know, people have their views. And again, I respect where people are coming from. I'm going to stay respectful.

And what I believe is standing on principle. Because if we stay in that place and if we hold our principles dear, and we are clear and authentic and direct and clear about why we're standing on these ideas and why we have these positions, I think the truth will win out. And I think that the people will reward us for that. We saw that with Zoran. We're seeing that in Democratic primaries over and over and over again. They can smell a political opportunist.

And right now there is, as I said, no defense really from a common sense fiduciary duty for this program. And one of the biggest issues that I'm campaigning on is electricity bills. The con ed bill here in New York city and around the state of New York for all the other utility providers keeps going up and up and up. And you know what I discovered getting back to where we started, Jenk, in my research and the campaign and so on, the utility companies have become complete complete tools of Wall Street and financial engineering. And so what we have now is, if you think about a utility company,

Jenk, it's supposed to take all the energy we have from planet Earth, take it, spread it out to the most number of people possible at the cheapest rate possible. That's the purpose of a public utility. And right now the CEO of Con Ed makes 15 million bucks a year. They have financial engineering to like get 2x book value on their on their stock. And it's, and it is, it is exactly what's wrong with America in so many places which we've lost our North Star, which is to help people live better lives. And that's the role of the state comptroller, in my view, and I'm excited to do it. Okay, I want the audience to really focus on what Raj just said.

So look, as we get frustrated with the Israel first crowd demanding that we all discriminate on behalf of Israel, no, they have to get more than the rest of the world combined. It's a blah, blah, blah, et cetera, that lunacy, right? Don't lose track of what this job actually does. And what this job, and what you're saying about the utilities is so important that a lot of the utilities in many different states are actually among the most powerful organizations at the local level, utilities plus real estate. And because those guys have so much interest in the government, they're the ones who actually give the most amount of donations oftentimes and politicians serve them. They're much more relevant than Israel on a local level and for a city like New York. And the fact that you've got your eyes on that and you're going to try to hold them accountable, that's great to hear and very substantive and terrific.

So I'm just giving my opinion on what you said. Thank you. Yeah. And I think the idea here is that, you know, I know the purpose of this show, right, is about how people can make a difference, which is how to organize and how to get engaged. You know, there is this little obscure body in Albany called the Public Service Commission, and it's controlled by Albany Insiders. And that is rubber stamping all of these utility rate hikes. We have these AI data centers coming online.

And the last thing we need to do is to subsidize big tech. And to be clear, I ran a tech company. So again, I know where these bodies are buried. And the last thing we need is to say that Elon Musk or Tim Cook or Jeff Bezos needs to have a data center built to benefit their companies on the backs of. rate payers, but that is precisely what will happen because again, insiders and the establishment, they want you to not know about this office. They want you to not realize what's going on. They don't want to know about that financial engineering because they like the

status quo. Raj, I was going to start to wrap up the interview, but wait, you said something that's really important there because about the data centers. Because I've been wondering about this. Are they saying that the data centers should be set up in all these different states and that the taxpayers should somehow subsidize their fricking data centers? It goes this way, Jank, which is we don't know. So the data centers come into a community. They, of course, can consume vast amounts of arable land and of water, especially the water

issue is becoming an emerging issue. And so what they do is they don't break it out to know. the utility, utility companies say, we have a huge spike in demand. So therefore, we need more infrastructure. And they oftentimes do need more infrastructure. But the state comptroller should be the watchdog, the person saying, what do you actually need this for? If you're doing it because the average person needs more hydroelectricity or needs more electricity generally, that's fine. But if you're doing it because Google needs a huge data center to conduct its operations, that's fine, but then Google should pay for it. And right now, there is no way to break into that black box. And that's, and I've talked to a lot of people in industry,

they don't even oppose that. But the status quo, if they're willing, if they're able to sort of get a sweetheart deal and let it sort of get folded into the normal operational expenses and nobody really knows what's going on, of course they're going to take that deal. I'll tell you this right now, it's my two cents. But if you dive in and you figure out how much the data centers are using the energy and then having the public subsidize it and you put an end to it, you'll be an American hero. Because these data, no, I'm not even, I'm not anywhere near joking because if these, because the oil companies already expect us to subsidize all their costs from climate change

and everything else, right? And they just keep pushing all their costs onto us and that's true of a lot of industries. So these data centers, if they drive up demand and then expect all of us to pay for it, that's a crime. No, no, no, no, you're gonna run a business, you pay your costs, and then you have your revenue, and then that's you have your profit after that. That's how the free markets work. That's how capitalism works.

No, I, it doesn't work in privatize the profits and socialize the expenses and make the average New Yorker pay for it. No, hell no. Well, and I'll tell you, right now, utility companies are entitled to a margin, generally around 9 to 11%. So when I ran my business, man, that would have been amazing that for every dollar that I spend, I'm just entitled to profit on it and entitled the margin. So right now, you know, my good friend is an energy expert, Greg Orman, he talks about

this a lot, which is it's the only industry in America where you're paid to decorate your office. What he means is that you go buy that fancy couch or you go buy that fancy ornament for your office it goes into your asset line and you get margin on that and so that's the kind of that's what's happened with the financial engineering not in all sectors of america i mean look at private equity getting involved and volunteer fire departments in owning emergency rooms and in and now owning leagues of high school sports i mean it has just gotten beyond anything that we had imagined because of this rampant financialization so there are many many goods in this country that are not

appropriate for concentrated private equity to come into. And so that's a realization that I think people are waking up to. And I think the AI data center, I agree with you, is one of those great dividing lines, one of those great cleavage points that the average person is sitting around saying, wait a second here, this smells funny, and I don't like it. So I was going to ask you more questions, but I only have time for one last one. Sure. What's the matter with Kansas? No, seriously. No, seriously. So Tom Franks, Tom Franks a very good friend. And what happened is I was a young guy and I went back to my hometown of Wichita and very few people go back to Kansas.

And I knocked on about 10,000 doors and I won probably the toughest state house election in the country for the Democratic Party in 06. I took out a three-term Republican incumbent. So I know a thing or two about taking out incumbents. And was a down the line pro-choice, pro-labor Democrat and probably the redest state in America. And then I lost the race for the U.S. House to Mike Pompey. And I did what every right thinking person should do. I moved to New York and I'd raise my family here. And I know you obviously we're fellow immigrants here, Jack, I do want to say before I go,

the thing I'm most proud of in my life aside from politics or business is that I created a joint family with my wife here in Lower Manhattan. So we moved my parents on our block and my in-laws. So my two daughters who are now ages 16 and 13 were raised with all four grandparents. You know many of us in the immigrant diaspora. not able to do that. I never really met my grandparents because of financial constraints and travel India in the 70s and the 80s. So that's the thing I'm really, really proud of. And I think there is an emerging issue, Jack, around caretaking. I've now lost my father,

very sadly, and my father-in-law. And I don't think we have a vocabulary in America and space around what it's like when you're caring for a loved one who's ill. And so that is an emerging issue. Now, of course, we have universal child care that is becoming a consensus here in New York. But I think one thing to watch, Jack, if I could suggest is that over time, we're going to have more and more concern around how we take care of loved ones for people who are in, of course, not only take care of children, but older parents. Now, all right, that's a great point, too. Raj, how do you say your last time again? Doyle, like Doyle. Okay.

So everybody, check out Rajgoyle.com. I believe that's the website. Yeah, roggegoil.com. Okay. And, Raj, thanks for joining us. I'm glad to know about your campaign, and I think you've got some really great ideas. I appreciate you joining us today. Honor to be here.

Thank you so much. All right, thank you, brother. All right, let's go get control of our own money and directed towards actual American citizens and voters. Wouldn't that be amazing? That's the revolution in my mind. All right, guys, for the members, story time. So we'll tell you another fun story for my personal life. Just a little bit of behind the scenes stuff for members that make this show possible.

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