The Young Turks - Party Crashers

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. All right, welcome to the young Turks live from the Polymarket Studio in L.A. Jake Uger, Anna Kusparian with you guys. Huge show today. So J.D. Vance is really, Donald Trump is as crazy as he ever was. Does Melania like him or love him or none of the above?

And then here it comes, Kamala Harris, she's taking a lead in some swing states. But is she really leading? So it's all amazing stories that are coming up. We also have a couple on Israel. I have a secret theory on what's happening in Israel. And it might surprise you. Huh, not interesting. All right, we'll get to all of that.

Casper. Look, before we get to this first story in our rundown, let me preface it by saying I myself have gotten a little bored with the endless J.D. Vance going after women's stories, right? It's kind of repetitive at this point. However, however, this latest report by CNN must be discussed. Must be. Let's do it.

All of us were hit with a little bit of a political sucker punch. The bad news is that Kamala Harris does not have the same baggage as Joe Biden because whatever we might say, Kamala Harris is a lot younger, and Kamala Harris is obviously not struggling in the same ways that Joe Biden did. Well, that was a rather damning admission by vice presidential pick, J.D. Vance, of course, he's the Republican vice presidential pick for Donald Trump. While they both like to put on a brave face in public in regard to their chances at beating

Kamala Harris, now that she is the presumptive Democratic nominee, behind the scenes, there seems to be a bit of panic. And the Washington Post unearthed that audio. We're going to get to more of it in just a moment. But before we do, and by the way, stick around for more of that audio. It's incredible. But before we do, I do want to also talk about other video that has been unearthed by CNN, specifically of J.D. Vance, referring to childless couples or childless Americans as psychopathic. Let's take a look. There's just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really really valuable when you have kids in your life. And the fact that so many people, especially

in America's leadership class, just don't have that in their lives, you know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less less mentally stable. And of course, you talk about going on Twitter. Final point I'll make is you go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don't have kids and own. Psychotic, sociopathic. Now, that wasn't the first time he used that type of language.

In fact, he made similar comments in May of 2019. Take a look. I've seen people who become more attached to their communities, to their families, to their families. to their country because they have children. So I would say that we should care about declining fertility, not just because it's bad for our economy, but because we think babies are good. And we think babies are good because we're not sociopaths.

This is one of the most ironic arguments, a man who is obsessed with other people's personal lives can possibly make. And Donald Trump tried to soften J.D. Vance's message, which we'll get to in just a moment. But Jenk, what are your thoughts on the latest unearthed videos? Yeah, so first on the one where he's being honest about how Kamala Harris is clearly a better candidate than Joe Biden. Is it interesting that they always say the things that are true when they're talking privately to donors? So that includes the Democrats.

Joe Biden, remember, said the most true thing he's ever said when he told the donors, don't worry, nothing will fundamentally change. Because Joe Biden is the status quo candidate, so he told the donors that in a frank way in the last cycle. Now this time around, Donald Trump went to the oil donors and said, give me a billion dollars and I'll give you everything you want, tax costs, deregulation, etc. Now here's J.D. Vance speaking as true mind, which is, oh, we're screwed. We thought we're going to beat Biden easy and now we're worried about Kamala Harris. That's obviously true, right? So, all right, now we turn to the psychotic comments. Look, I jokingly referred to J.D. Vance as a serial killer a couple of times.

He has a serial killer eye. So it's ironic when he starts talking about other people being psychotic and sociopathic. And I have a theory on it. So look, there's the larger, more important issue of how MAGA breaks down. And I want to talk about that a little bit more as well, which is, I think they're now broken down in two categories. One is Christian rights slash Christian nationalists. The other is just bros, bros like Dave Portnoy and Joe Rogan, etc. And the bros don't really agree with the Christian nationalist.

And the Christian nationalists don't necessarily agree with the bros. And so we're at a really interesting point here where there's a diverges. They both agree on Trump, but they don't both agree on J.D. Vance. So the reason, but now back to J.D. Vance and in particular to him, and my theory, and by guys, this is speculation, okay, is that he doesn't feel a lot of empathy for other people, right? And that's how sociopaths are, and that's how Donald Trump is. And that's why he can make this giant pivot from like a liberal who thinks Trump is Hitler to, ah, Trump's great, because he doesn't care.

He doesn't care about other people, he doesn't care about how it affects things. But once he had kids, he was like, oh wow, I now have feelings. I care about these other human beings in a way that I've never cared about before. So what he does is a very classic psychological phenomenon, projection. So he assumes that you don't care about any other human being. until you've had kids. So I think that's why he says it over and over and over again, because that was his experience.

Look, just based on his book Hillbilly Elegie, I think that J.D. Vance, and I don't say this as an insult, I actually genuinely mean this earnestly. I think that he has gone through some significant trauma in his youth that has not really been addressed. And I think that he needs to address it in a healthier way, potentially through seeing a therapist, talking to some sort of counselor, I don't know. But the way that he lashes out at people who are just minding their own business and living

their own lives is very strange to me. And he still doesn't seem to understand how utterly unappealing that message is, not just to the left, right? He's not trying to appeal to the left. The left already has its heels dug in in voting for Kamala Harris in this race. But really, the race is boiling down to those swing voters, those independent voters. And these are individuals who are turned off by this kind of messaging. Because it's not about, you know, Uber leftists who have decided that they don't want to have

children because they're concerned about climate change. There are all sorts of people all throughout the country who don't have children for a number of different reasons, as we've talked about before, it could be due to health concerns. It could be because they haven't found the right individual to have children with. He keeps doubling down on this insane, unpopular message, which brings me to Donald Trump, who's trying to kind of soften the message from J.D. Vance, he did so while speaking to Laura Ingram. This was a recent interview. Let's take a look at what Trump had to say. He's got tremendous support. And he really does among a certain group of people,

people that like families. I mean, you know, he made a statement having to do with families. That doesn't mean that people that aren't a member of a big and beautiful family with 400 children around and everything else. It doesn't mean that a person doesn't have, he's not against anything, but he loves family. It's very important to him. He grew up in a very interesting family situation, and he feels family is good. And I don't think there's anything wrong in saying that. But I know so many people, they never met the right person or male or feel. female that just never met the right person.

They're unbelievable, they're every bit as good as anybody else. I think a lot of people like family and sometimes it doesn't work out. And you know why you don't meet the right person or you don't meet any person. But you're just as good. In many cases, a lot better than a person that's in a family situation. I thought those statements were, first of all, important for Trump to say if he wants a shot at, you know, distancing himself from this Christian nationalist type of messaging that we're from J.D. Vance, but I also find it fascinating that he is distancing himself from his own VP

pick. Yeah, but I thought that was actually relatively well done. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, the one part that I was amused by was he, he does well with people that like families. I don't, but I love family. I'm with my family, and when I say family, like I visit my parents and I spend like pretty much the entire day with them every Sunday, Friday night, I was with all of my nieces and my nephew. Like, I love family too because, just because someone has decided they don't want to have children. Doesn't mean they don't love family. Yeah.

Well, there's two other funny parts of that. There's one person who might not love family, and that's Donald Trump, right? That's why it's kind of funny. I mean, he also said today that his wife might like him or love him, but he's not entirely sure, right? And you know, he forgets Tiffany all the time, we cover all this. I'm sure he feels that some members of his family are very fine people. Some are very fine people is one on each side.

But he's also referring to now into a larger political point. He's also referring to Christian evangelicals, etc. Because they're much more focused on family values, family issues. Now, he doesn't really live up to any of that, as we all know. We don't have to rehash all of his porn habits and sex habits, etc. And that's why he refers to those people as other people. He appeals to people that like families. He doesn't view himself in that category because he's not really a Christian nationalist, etc.

He's a Trump nationalist. He just cares about himself. He's just gathering these people in order to win. But to be fair to him, he's doing it in a more savvy way than J.D. Vance is more inclusive. He's definitely savier than J.D. Vance. He has his finger on the pulse certainly more. certainly more than J.D. Vance does. And look, again, I do think that he dealt with that question really well. But again, it's not really a good sign when the man at the top of the ticket

is trying to distance himself from his own VP pick, right? I mean, he understands how much of a liability J.D. Vance's past statements have been. And he also seems to understand how much of a liability, the way J.D. Vance has handled this situation has been, right? So with that in mind, I want to talk a little more about that audio that the Washington Post obtained featuring J.D. Vance, sharing his concerns about Kamala Harris now being the presumptive Democratic nominee. Because during that same conversation, he also talked about what he believes needs to be done in order to ensure that Trump beats Kamala Harris in the general election. Let's take a look.

We wonder how is the world caught on fire? How is there a new war and seemingly every continent in the world? And it's because Kamala and the Democrats lied about Joe Biden. It kind of leads into the good news because no person in the United States of America owns the disastrous Harris Biden agenda more than his own vice president of the United States. So he kind of complained about how Biden's baggage isn't really following Kamala Harris in this race. And so he's saying that the messaging from the Trump campaign and the Republican party should be focused on essentially placing the blame of some of Biden's failed policies or some of, you know, Biden's foibles onto Kamala Harris's shoulders, namely things like the

ongoing wars in Ukraine and in Gaza, and also the failures at the southern border. Yeah, and so I think that here, I'm gonna read a comment from one of our YouTube members, Matt, Matt, aka Drock Bach Dragon Rights. And I keep hearing talk that the hashtag tiny fisted tangerine tyrant will replace Vance. It'll never happen. He'd have to admit that he made a mistake. So on the one hand, I'm dying to go tick, tick, tick on replacing J.D. Vance. But that would be a giant move.

And it would be smell of panic. Now, on the other hand, has Donald Trump admitted to him? mistakes through firing people before? Oh, endlessly. I mean, he never admits to being wrong, but he says, Jeff Sessions, not very happy with my attorney general, you know, and he just says, like, he fired so many people. Yeah. And blamed all of their, his problems on them. He's like the world's worst manager, but he does fire people. He does fire people while also simultaneously maintaining that he hires the best people, which is amazing. Like, yeah, and people totally believe it. Yeah. Right? So in order to be part of the show, by the way, hit the join button below. That's why we read the member comments. But back to how they're going to deal with Kamala Harris. Look, they're going to try to say that she's responsible. She knew all along, et cetera. It's not that bad attack. I actually am just strategically speaking. I'm surprised that they haven't been able to land that blow effectively yet at all.

Well, they've been playing defense ever since she was the presumptive Democratic nominee. And that's never a good position to be. politically speaking, the strong area of the Trump campaign has always been playing offense. Yeah. And they've been so distracted in playing defense as it pertains to like J.D. Vance's controversial comments that they haven't really been able to root that anti Kamala Harris messaging, especially the messaging, which I agree with you, I think would be effective in regard to hiding the genuine true condition that Joe Biden was in prior to the debate. Yeah, and last thing is that in the midst of them playing defense, which they're doing a lot of lately, all of a sudden now we're showing significant fissures too, because there's an anti-abortion leader

that came out today going, no, this is unacceptable. They have to try to ban all abortion nationwide, and he's very dissatisfied with Trump in advance for that. And on the other hand, you've got the bros that I talked about, Rogan, Portnoy, et cetera. And they're like, wait, I thought we were Republicans we wanted to get out of people's lives. So now all of a sudden you guys are telling us how to live our lives and what should be legal or illegal based on your religious views. And now you're telling us that people without kids are worthless. Wait, this doesn't match our ideology at all. Because a lot of those bros aren't looking to have kids, right?

Yeah, no. And some of them are, some of them aren't. And those are just two very different subsets of people who've never had to actually resolve their internal conflicts. That's such a great point. They haven't. And now they're kind of forced to, and it's really fascinating to watch it play out. Now, final thing that I'll say about how Trump is handling all of this messaging. So the Associated Press reported today that the director of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 has stepped down from his role. And the reason why he did that is because basically Trump pushed for him to be kicked out of the group. And look, there has been, in my opinion, an effective strategy by the Democrats

to tie Donald Trump to Project 2025, even though, honestly, Trump isn't the one who penned it, Trump isn't the one who crafted it. The Heritage Foundation is separate from the Trump campaign, but Democrats have done a decent job in tying Trump to it. And I think it has hurt him politically, especially when you couple that story, Project 2025, with J.D. Vance's statements. And so he is trying to distance himself from like the far right Christian nationalist crowd. And I think that he will also do that with the individuals within the in the Republican Party who want like a federal ban on abortion. So it cuts two ways there, guys. Number one, I don't know what to believe about Project

2025. I don't really trust Trump. Those are all Trump loyalists that wrote Project 2025, a lot of them worked in a Trump administration before, a lot of them will definitely work in the Trump administration next time around. So I think that they maybe got their hand caught in a cookie jar there showing you all the terrible things that they were so excited to do. And I thought that they got to a point where they thought there's no accountability. We could just tell people we're going to be fascist and it's not going to have consequences. But hey, the Democrats played it well and they were apparently enough electoral and political

consequences that Trump decided to bail on them, which gets to the second point, which is that Trump is not an unsabby politician. He's, he's not bright, he doesn't know a lot of things, right? But he has a nose for what's popular, because that's what a con man has to know, hey, what works on my mark, right? What's going to convince that person to like me, trust me, and give me their confidence? So he senses the country is not in favor of banning abortion, And the country did not like Project 2025. So he had enough political sense to basically hit the eject button and go, there you go, Project 2025, right or wrong, whether he actually means it or not.

He's at least gotten rid of it for his political campaign, which is savvy. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about Nate Silver saying that, look, Kamala Harris is still very likely going to lose to Donald Trump, based on his forecast model. So we'll see if that forecast model has any credibility. We'll talk about the race as it stands today. Things can obviously change from now till November. But come back, we'll give you that story and more. All right, back on TYT, Jankan, Anna, with you guys, sorry, and Duffman and Jermaine Moore,

who hit the join bottom below. You guys are awesome. We appreciate you. Casper. Just want to let you guys know that we're going to be having an awesome interview later on the show today. Dave Smith will be coming on in the final 30 minutes of the main show, so definitely stick around for that. But before we get to any of that, let's get to our next story. Nobody ever heard of this before.

This is a coup. They took him, they said, even though you got 14 million votes, you're out, and he said, I'm not going out. But you're saying that's what they're kind of doing with the court as well? No, what they're doing is they're keeping, they took him out. He was losing badly, they took him out. He wants something to say. He's sitting there with nothing to do, nobody to talk to. They threw him out.

This was a coup, the first one, of the president of the United States. Donald Trump is continuing to complain that he now has. to run against presumptive Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, as opposed to Joe Biden. And I don't blame him for complaining. I mean, Kamala Harris is, of course, a lot more competitive than Joe Biden is. However, while enthusiasm among Democratic voters seems to have exploded following Biden's departure from the general election, Nate Silver makes clear that his replacement, Harris, is still an underdog in this race. So let's break it down based on. on his forecast model, he claims that, well, according to that model, Trump has a 61.3%

probability of winning the electoral college, whereas Harris has a 38.1% probability. So we all know that the electoral college is what determines who the winner of the race is. When you look at the popular vote, Harris performs much better. So let's take a look at that. So, oh, by the way, before we get to that, I should also note that when Silver unveiled the model last month, it also found that Trump had a 65.7% chance of winning the electoral college, while President Joe Biden had just 33.7% chance.

I think it's important to do that comparison between Biden and Harris to understand, while Harris is still the underdog, she's still performing a lot better than Biden did, and she has some room to grow. So we'll wait and see what happens between now and November. Now let's just quickly go to the popular vote, which does not determine who the winner will be. But in this area, obviously, Harris does a lot better.

So she, you know, she has a 53.5% probability of winning the popular vote, whereas Trump has a 46.5% probability. Trump is also performing really well in some of these battleground states, including Georgia and Michigan. But Kamala Harris has made some gains in battleground states compared to how Biden was performing, namely in Pennsylvania, for example. And so I'm curious what you think about this, Jank, because we're not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I know there is legitimate excitement among the Democratic electorate. But I think it's also important to be sober-minded about where this race currently is. Well, first of all, I'm not going to appease anyone who wants rah, rah, rah.

That's we're gonna stick to the reality in facts no matter what. So like if you want me to say like, oh no, it's already locked up. We have a 90% chance of winning. Don't worry, MSNBC exists. They'll lie to you all day long, okay? So now I agree and disagree with Nate for a couple of what I think is interesting reasons. So first of all, I agree with him that that is the current snapshot of the race. That is accurate.

But there's something, and by the way, notice that. that almost overnight, we pick up five huge points when Conlon Harris replaces Joe Biden. So already a huge bump even in Nate Silver's analysis, okay? But I think that the problem with his model, and I think he might acknowledge this idea, not necessarily as a problem, but as a way of looking at his model,

which is that it is a snapshot. It doesn't tell you what's going to happen four months from now. It tells you what the current state of the races. So if you think Kamala Harris is already in the lead or definitely going to win, that's not true. Nate is right about that, okay? But what it doesn't take into account is momentum. It doesn't take into account which direction necessarily the campaign is going and how things are going to wind up. So even, and Nate was just as adamant as anyone that Joe Biden was not the right candidate based on the numbers that he saw. But you see in that analysis

before he left, he was a 33.7% chance of winning. So what I've always told you is I think that he actually had a near zero chance of winning. And it turned out that even his closest advisors, a couple of days before he dropped out, said near zero. After he dropped out, MSNBC host started saying near zero. Because at the end of the day, that number is going to keep moving, and it's not going to be the same. And so Biden had a downward trajectory, and he kept going further and further and further her down. And so the natural conclusion to that was that he had almost no chance of recovery. And if you're sitting at 33 and you're not trending upwards, then in effect, your chance

of winning or nothing. Okay, I agree. So now when you look at Kamala Harris, we have the exact opposite situation. She's trending upwards. So the fact that she's not leading currently does not bother me. To me, she is by getting to a point where she's leading by four in Pennsylvania. Now it's just one poll, there's got to be a million more, right? But as far as how the race looks now, I would say that I have it at even, or even Kamala Harris is a slight favorite, 52, 55% chance. Interesting, okay. Yeah, and I don't mean, again, I don't mean the snapshot, Nate's right about the numbers, right? Right.

But in terms of where do I think it's going to wind up four months from now? But do I know for sure, of course not, otherwise I tell you 100%, right? Right? And I'm not shy about it, as you guys know. But right now, it is definitely trending in her direction. She's, in my opinion, very likely to take the lead. But as I've told you many times, roller coaster that she might lose the lead. It might go back and forth a couple times because Trump is not an unsavvy campaigner. And they're gonna, and the Republicans are good at digging, digging, digging, finding up nonsense and making a giant federal case out of it. I'd be surprised if they couldn't do that pretty effectively a couple of times, at least against Kamala Harris.

Well, that's what I'm thinking about, right? As we proceed forward with this general election, I can't help but think about how the point you're making really does cut both ways. For the time being, Kamala Harris is trending upward, right? She's doing well, but it's only been a little over a week. And to be quite honest with you, there really hasn't been much discussion or any discussion about policy. Like I don't, I don't know what there might never be. Okay, but that's a, I think that's a problem. But neither side wants to have a conversation about policy because the Democrats are going to mainly deliver for the donors and Trump is going to mainly deliver for the donors in himself. So they don't really want to talk. The only policy

that Trump's going to want to talk about is immigration, right? Because he thinks that's a losing issue. I think both of them needs to talk about that. I think Kamala Harris needs to explain what her vision for immigration policy is going to be, or is. That would be nice. And to be fair to Kamala Harris, she just became the presidential candidate. Look, if I'm the vice president for three and a half years, trust me, I would have 20 policies ready to go that I've been dying to do. But that's not how most politicians are.

So she's now going to have to come up with her own ideas and platform as opposed to supporting Joe Biden's, and that's going to take her a little bit of time. But largely, these politicians would love to avoid policy. So she's gonna, and in terms of her politics, she's gonna wanna talk about abortion more, right? Because they think those are the winning issues with the two sides. So they'll only focus on the policies where they think they have an advantage. And whether they're actually gonna do anything about it or not, right? Because Biden's current policies on immigration are actually very similar to Donald Trump's former policies on immigration.

And honestly, Kamala Harris isn't going to be able to do any other than stop the bleeding on abortion. Like, okay, she would be able to block a national law, but the Republicans would be very unlikely to be able to pass a national law. She can't really do anything about the red states, so, and is she really going to fight hard to get a filibuster proof of majority? Very unlikely. So the policy issues that they could do something about, they'll almost never talk about.

And if I'm being on, well, that's all I would ever do is be honest with you guys, and they largely don't care about. They're politicians. No, I get that the politicians don't care. I guess I have a little bit of a problem with the electorate not really caring. I have a problem with the electorate not having higher standards and simply voting based on vibes. And then more importantly, shaming others for disagreeing with them politically because they don't agree with voting based on vibes. Like, the presidential elections have

become an absolute joke where talk about policy is now like not part of the whole process. And I don't know, I have an issue with that. But let's get back to Trump's interview with Laura Ingram, because I thought it was kind of funny how Laura Ingram wanted to make a point about how you don't have to worry about Kamala, you're doing really well. Now, the poll that she's about to present to Donald Trump in the context of this clip is a little outdated. And when I say outdated, the poll was done before Biden's disastrous debate performance. Let's take a look.

The real clear politics average shows you up at about 1.75% over her. But before the debate, Biden was 1.5 points behind. So you've actually slightly grown your lead on the national poll. So how do you keep Republicans positive and not buying into kind of the negative publicity that they're saying? I think she's a worse candidate than him. She's far more radical left. She is younger, but I mean, she's 60 years old, a lot of people.

I didn't really she was 60. I thought she was a little younger, but she's 60. is talking a big game, but her game is pretty bad. I mean, she was the border czar. She's trying to pretend that she wasn't. Kamala Harris looks damn good, okay? Like I didn't know she was 60, mostly because I don't care. Like I don't care about her age.

I know that she's much younger than both Biden and Trump. But if Harris isn't a threat and isn't a more competitive candidate that compared to Joe Biden, then why are you complaining about the alleged coup on Joe Biden? Yeah, of course, no, no. As we showed you earlier in the show, J.D. Vance talked to donors in private and said, yeah, it was a gut punch. We thought we had Joe Biden beat, and they're now very worried that they do not have Kamala Harris beat, and they should be worried. The national polls, let me just explain, she's up three and a half now, but as I've told you a million times when we had to get Joe Biden on the race, the Democrat has to win by four and a half to five nationally to win the electoral college. That's why she's still trailing if the election were held today, she would lose.

So be, you know, clear-eyed about that. She's still got to make up ground. But that deceptive poll that Anna pointed out that it was pre the debate for, that's classic Fox News. I know, it's amazing. But why give Trump unnecessary confidence? You get what I'm saying? No, they're trying to just encourage their own audience. Don't give up.

Okay, because now we've got the old camera. candidate and we look like we're in a civil war and disastrous shape and we're slipping away. No, no, no, no, we actually went up. Like that's classic Fox News to get their guys excited. Last thing is right there, boom, he measures the border. Of course, that's his one go-to thing. He measured age because he just is going to old talking points about Biden. They still haven't caught up, which is amazing to me.

And then finally, radical left. And unfortunately, what Anna is saying about some portions of the left helps them make. that point because they're like, we don't want to hear about her policies that aren't progressive. She's just the most progressive person in the world. Well, that helps Donald Trump with his attack on how she's radical left. It's not backed up by any facts. She's not even, she's not within miles or planets of radical left or even progressive. So stop saying things that aren't true, especially because they wind up being counterproductive in this case. I wish she was a strong progressive populace, but she ain't. All right, we gotta take a break. When we come back,

We have more from that interview featuring Donald Trump and Laura Ingram. Don't miss it. the more, some of the interview questions that Laura Ingram asked Donald Trump. They say, well, no, you can't vote for him because he's literally never going to leave office. They're actually still saying that. It's just unbelievable. But you will leave office after four years. By the way, and I did last time. Fox News host Laura Ingram asked Donald Trump flat out, will you leave office should you get

elected for another term? After those four years, will you leave? And as you heard from his answer there, he says, yes, I will leave as I did last time, which makes the answer a little more questionable because he didn't leave easily. Obviously, he did not accept the results of the 2020 presidential election and, of course, engaged in the fake electors plot. Now, it was an important question for Laura Ingram to ask him. And I'm happy that she did.

It's good that she did it. But, you know, I'm curious what you think about his answer, Jank. Yeah, it's a terrible answer, and it's going to get worse in a second. But first off, when somebody says, hey, are you going to leave office four years from now when it would be your second term? The correct answer is, yeah, of course I am. We're kind of maniac things I'm not going to leave office. What else would I do? That's such an easy answer.

It's the biggest softball in human history. And he hesitates. Why are you hesitating? And then he's like, well, well, you know, like I did last time. Well, last time you didn't leave. We had to get you out of there with like a crane, right? So last time you had your fans attacked the Capitol. You came up with a fake elector scheme, organized a coup.

That's what we're worried about is what you did last time. And you can't even give a clear answer. And then the rest of his answers are awful on this issue. You know why? He doesn't want to leave. He definitely wants to be a dictator. Everything he says, remember he has verbal diarrhea. If it's in here, he's going to spout it out.

That's why he says, well, of course I'd like to be a dictator for a day. Well, you know, and we're not going to have elections next time, Chris, just don't worry about it. Oh, so I'm just joking. Okay, hold on, hold, hold. So what you just referenced is exactly why Laura Ingram asked him that question to begin with. So just to set this up, he was at a turning point action event in Palm Beach, Florida. And while speaking at that event, he said something that led to a lot of backlash from Democrats.

So you take a look at what this is, how he explains it, and then we'll break it down. And again, Christians get out and vote just this time. You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It'll be fixed, it'll be fine. You won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians, I'm my Christian. I love you.

Get out. You got to get out and vote. In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good. You're not going to have to vote. Okay, so Laura Ingram asked him, okay, what did you mean when you said that? Let's take a look. With respect to, like, a statement like I made, that statement is very simple.

I said, vote for me. You're not going to have to do it ever again. It's true because we have to get the vote out. Christians are not known as a big voting group. They don't vote. And I'm explaining that to them. You never vote. This time, vote.

I'll straighten out the country. You won't have to vote anymore. I won't need you vote. You can go back to that vote. You don't have to vote for you because you have four years in office. Look. Christians are known. You know who else doesn't vote? Gun owners don't vote. But just to be clear, what you're saying, though, you're not saying, it's being interpreted as you are not surprised to hear.

No. By the left as well, they're never going to have another election. He's saying there's not. So can you even just respond to that? I said Christians, I started off by saying, just so you understand, you never vote. Christians do not vote well. They vote in very small percentages. Why, I don't know. Maybe they're disappointed in things that are happening, but for a long time. I say, you don't vote. I'm saying, go out, you must vote. November 5th is going to be the most important election in the history of our country. So I know you're not going to buy it, Jank.

Let me just get my thoughts out before you go off. I believe him. That was my interpretation of what he said at that turning point action event. My interpretation was that he was trying to do similar messaging from what we've heard before from both parties. This is the most important election of our lifetimes. You know, if you want to be politically apathetic, that's totally fine after you vote in this election, right? Yeah. That's the sense that I got, which is why we didn't cover the story on the show. But you disagree. Yeah, well, partly. So first of all, let's talk about the politics

of this and that answer. Then I'll get to the substance of what I think he believes. So, hey, idiot. She asked you four times just saying you're going to leave office after your term is up. She even planted the correct answer in the form of the question twice. And the moron can't spit out, I will leave office when I'm done. I agree with you. He never said it. He never said it. And remember, whatever's in his head, he says.

It's not in his head. It's not in his vocabulary. It's not in his thoughts. He never, ever wants to leave. And he said it a hundred times. Whenever he goes to dictators, Kim Jong-un, Xi Jinping, whoever you, those guys who have unilateral power, even if they're not dictators, Putin, etc.

He says, oh my God, they're amazing. People are forced to clap for them. And no one can question them. He's like, I love it. Of course he wants to be a dictator. Of course. Of course he does. That's why he did a coup attempt to get.

America. That's why last time around, he said, we should terminate all rules, regulations, and articles within the Constitution. He wasn't kidding. That was in the middle of the coup attempt. Okay, so with that context, for him to not be able to answer, of course I'm going to leave, is a disaster. And if you're a Trump supporter or a Republican, it's a bigger disaster. Because now for anyone who was in the middle or skeptical, any rational person would have to say it doesn't look like he wants to leave. It doesn't look like that at all. Now, if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt, and there are reasons why. And so I understand what Anna's saying.

So let me explain that part and then come back to my conclusion. So first of all, he's preposterously wrong on how Christians don't vote. Yeah, I agree. They're the largest, best voting block. He won in 2016 because over 80% of Christian evangelicals showed up in a country where we're lucky to get to 50% voter turnout. Over 80%, they're the best voting block. Again, at a bare minimum, total moron doesn't know anything about the details of politics, because he can't read. And so he probably never read the voter turnout for Christians.

imposterously stupid that's going to relate to what we're talking about in a second. Just a quick point on what you just said. I mean, he is saying this to individuals who attended a turning point action events. I would venture to say these are politically motivated individuals. I'm just saying, okay, go ahead. Yeah. And so, but what he might have meant, and knowing Trump, this is plausible, is, you're not going to have to vote again because I'm not running so I don't give a goddamn who you.

you vote for afterwards. 100%. I don't care if you get your stupid policies. I don't even know who you guys are or what you want and I don't care. And I don't care who the next guy who wins is. All I care about is me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, right? So he's like, do you don't have to vote again?

Because I'm not going to tell you to vote, because I'm not going to give a damn, right? So is that plausible? Yes, that's plausible, okay? Now, but it's possible, and I believe that both things are true. that he thinks, I don't care once I leave. You could never vote again, Christians. I don't care. And you could tell that he doesn't care about them because he goes,

I love you, you Christians. Oh yeah, I'm a Christian too. Come on, brother. You're making it very, very obvious, okay? Yeah, he doesn't give a damn. Now, at the same time, does he want to leave? Well, if we have overwhelming evidence, he didn't want to leave last time,

last time, he's said he's now had 2,000 opportunities to say, obviously I will not be a dictator. Obviously I will leave. And he never, ever says it. Because he doesn't want to leave. Because why? He likes power. He likes winning. So he's like, if I'm the president, I have power. Why would I want to leave that? Of course, I don't want to leave that. Yeah, because we have a constitution. And for all of you right wingers out there who are always, you sound like, like honestly, Blue Maga. Oh, no, Joe Biden's not old. Joe Biden's not old, right? Now, the right wing, and for a long time, no, everything Trump says, he never means any of it. So why do you like Trump so much? Because he always means what he says. So which one is it, brothers and sisters? Do you love

him because he means what he says, or he never means anything he says? So you always make excuses. I know you, none of you are going to be convinced. No way he's the world's greatest Christian, and maybe even you might be a little skeptical about that, but he's definitely going to leave. he loves America, even though he says we should shred the Constitution. He loves the Constitution, he always kidding, kidding, kidding, ha, ha, ha, he's trolling. He's not kidding at all. And if he was kidding about this, he definitely wasn't kidding about saying he wants to terminate the Constitution while he was saying we shouldn't follow the rules of the Constitution,

I should just get to stay in office. He hates this country. Yeah, look, after Biden resisted dropping out of the race so aggressively, it kind of became clearer to me, just looking back at history and how history frowns upon single-term presidents, that whether you're talking about a Democrat or Republican like Trump, they don't want to be one-term presidents, right? They see one-term presidents as losers, as people who are frowned upon in history books. And so I think that that motivated Trump to a large extent. He didn't want to be seen as a loser, but he lost the election in 2020. And to your point

about red maga being similar to blue maga, for me, the litmus test is, are Republicans able to accept that he tried to install fake electors? And if they're in complete denial about that and provide cover for that, well, then you're not engaging in good faith. And it's difficult to have conversations with people like that. But I also think it's important to just see the situation for what it is and not like engage in hyperbole, like that you see. But it's not hyperbole, Anna, when a guy tries a coup. So like- No, he definitely tried a coup. Yeah, so he can't, by definition, he can't be hyperbole.

But the hyperbole comes in when you hear Democrats say, if he gets elected, that's it. This country is now a dictatorship and he will never leave office. We don't know that for a fact, for sure. And Democrats lost all credibility when they didn't mind losing to him with Joe Biden. Exactly. So I understand all of that. But me, as an American, when I say that he hates this country, I want to be clear, he has a different version of America than I do.

His version of America is we're in charge and it's like the old days, 1950s. We allow the blacks and Latinos and stuff, right? And we allow some women to go to work, but we're in charge, okay? And when he says Christian, he doesn't mean the religion or spirituality. He means identity. I'm born a Christian, I'm born this way. I need to be in charge, okay? That's what he views as America, but that's not America.

America is an idea, it's a constitution, it's a constitution, It's the idea that we're all equal, which they despise, that we're all free, which it turns out they despise. No, I'm going to control your body. I'm going to control this. I'm going to have the government do all sorts of things to take over your life because I'm going to demand that you follow Christian fundamentalist rules, J.D. Vance, et cetera. But most importantly, he just doesn't believe that the people should rule and that we should have democracy. He thinks, unlike Democrats who definitely think the people should rule. Well, get out of here, come on.

I know the Democrats and corporate Republicans believe that the donors should rule. 100%. And they're the servants of those. But we point that out, Anna, but at least you still have elections, whereas Donald Trump doesn't give a damn about elections or the Constitution. If he could, he would definitely stay in power because he thinks, why would I give up power? What am I a sucker and a loser? No, I'd just rather be a dictator because he doesn't care about the idea of America.

He views it as a punchline and a joke for his own personal benefit. All right, we got to take a break when we come back. We've got some foreign policy related news, some international news, including Israel now bombing the Lebedee's capital of Beirut. We'll be right back.