The Young Turks - Pence Dumps Trump

Episode Date: March 16, 2024

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Thank you, Friday. Three-a-Treezee Three-A-G-G-R-G-R-G-H-R-G-R-G-G-R-G-R-T. D-R-H-R-T. D-R-Mes. D-RIN, D-R-G-R-D-R-T, D-F-D. Drop it. panel. I'm back in the first hour. All right, now that the campaign's over, doing both hours on Friday as usual.

Jake Uger, John Iderola, Mondale Robinson. Mondale's on Rebel headquarters. You're checking that out. You're loving it. He's the mayor of Enfield, North Carolina. You're all stopping by and saying, well, it's not a big deal. I know the mayor around these parts. Those things are happening. Tourism in Enfield is exploding as we speak. We know these things. Everybody's watching the damage report, which is John's show. That is actually happening. But it would be kind of cool if Enfield tourism double. That would be pretty neat. One day, one day. You know, there's a spot they can see Mondale, right?

They can see the place where you took down the Confederate statue. That's a landmark, okay? Yeah, just don't go by. We should make that, we should talk to the National Park Service about that. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Maybe turn it, you know, turn it in something. Well, I already thought it was positive.

Even more positive, get some tourism up in there. All right, anyways, guys, a huge hour for you guys. Obviously you've got some tragic news, but then later in the program, Alex Jones promises to eat our ass. And he actually said it, but you'll see later in the program. Anyways, and then you got Aaron Rodgers, you got a lot of fun stuff too. But we start with serious stuff. I wish I was on the second hour because we are a very divided people.

We're very partisan, we're very tribal. I think it's a great show of unity that he'll cross party aisles to eat our leftist asses. I do think that that's how America comes together. Thank you, Alex Jones. Anyway, I can't wait to hear your commentary on that, considering your history with him. In any event, we're going to move on to slightly more serious news to start things off. Special prosecutor Nathan Wade has announced his resignation from the Donald Trump Fulton County election subversion case. We're gonna get into the events that led to this and the criticism from the judge of the AG in a little bit.

But first, we do want to show you the letter that was sent to Fannie Willis announcing that he'd be resigning. You can see it there and we'll read just a little bit of what he said in announcing it. I am offering my resignation in the interest of democracy and dedication to the American public and to move the case forward as quickly as possible. Now Nathan Wade taking himself off of this case, resigning means that Fonnie Willis will go forward in the case. case, a new lead prosecutor will need to either be hired or appointed from within her team of lawyers. And so that's how they're responding to the developments that we will go into great detail on. We also wanted to give you the response of the main target of this investigation,

Donald Trump, facing a half dozen counts in regards to his attempt to overturn the results of that election. He talked about Nathan Wade resigning by saying this, the funny Willis lover, Mr. Nathan Wade Esquire, nice of him to give him the title, has just resigned in disgrace as per his and hair. Reading of the judge's order today. Nathan was the special in more ways than one. Prosecutor engaged by Fani, pronounced Fawney, Willis, I guess. Why is he clarifying that? We'll get into it. There are reasons, they're racist, to persecute Trump for Griggo Joe Biden in his D.O. Injustice for purposes of election interference and living the like of the rich and famous.

What is going on with him today? This is the equivalent of Derange Jacksmith getting canned, big stuff, something which had happened in the not too distant future. Okay, so he's the lover and he was special in more ways than one or whatever. It's a former president of the United States. And he's talking about how her name is pronounced. And it's not lost on me that Alina Haba also had weird things to say about the pronunciation of her name on the new earlier this week and they're prosecuting him for election interference and for

living the life of the rich and famous like you didn't call Brad Raffinsberger and try to get him to make up 11,000 votes because you were living large or had a nice mansion what are you talking about so look I honestly don't know there's somewhat rhetorical questions Jank what do you think about this development and Trump's reaction yeah so first of all the more important stuff is what actually to happen in regards to the case. And yeah, I agree with the judge on all counts. Fawney Willis took a ridiculous risk in doing this.

And he even questioned whether, you know, you should believe her. But overall, the case goes on, that's the most important thing, because the case has nothing to do with the relationship of Willis and Wade. That's a different problem, in my opinion, for the people of Fulton County to deal with. directing some public money towards a boyfriend, if that's what happened, etc. But in terms of whether that affects Donald, whether Donald Trump did it or not, that doesn't affect the case at all. And the judge said it, the case goes on, he doesn't affect it, Wade's got to go, he does, etc.

In terms of Trump's reaction, I mean, the buffoon's going to buffoon, right? So that he was always going to say something stupid. And if he's trying to make fawny sound like phony, why not just write phony? instead of F-A-U-N-I. I don't, who knows, who knows what's going on inside his very empty mind. I mainly picture a game of Pong where his one brain cell keeps bouncing from P-ding, p-ting, p-ding, p-ting, p-ding. Those are like sound effects he makes.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Bing bong. And so, you know, and he says, it's going to happen to Jack Smith next. No, it's not. He's making stuff up. He's never said anything true in his life. So his reaction is the usual juvenile stuff. I'm not surprised by that.

But mainly, I don't really care what happens to Fannie Willis and her career. Who knows what's going to happen from here. I can speculate later. What I care about is the case and the case survives other than the counts that were dismissed. We can get into that too. But Monda, I'm curious what you think. Yeah, I mean, that's important that that point right there, Jake. Like the fact that the case is still on, Trump is still on trial for trying to sit an election.

And he's talking about disgraced and all of the things. had to say about the attorney that stepped down, her lover, it's hilarious to me that he finds this disgraceful, but not him trying to lose, I mean, still an election that he lost, not that he has been, you know, found liable for rape. That's not disgraceful. And what this judge did do was give too much win, two months too long for emotion, a motion that he didn't believe was grounded than reality or facts, right? So the problem is when he talked about the appearance of impropriety or appearance of anything, it just gives way into the Trump argument. And I think all of those people, because if we really cared about appearance, then Trump would not be a Republican nominee.

So they don't care about appearance. And the same people that was praising his judge for dropping three charges this day to day in history, they began to talk trash about them and call him a leftist and said he was a plant, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, because of their appearance. is the only reason he the judge himself said there was no no conflict of interest that prevented this case from happening in this county by this DA. The sad part for Trump is he's too blinded by what he thinks is a victory of what's about to happen to him. He's just unleashed all of the fear. And the worst thing can happen to him is if finally Willis does take over this case as Lee prosecutor herself because she's going to be a ninja in that court

at him. Yeah. Yeah, I just, this whole thing is so utterly, utterly point. Like, if you, if you're, if you're a MAGA person, you should be so mad at Trump for all of this. I don't mean because he tried to overturn the results of election. I know that you don't care about democracy or whatever, but that he did all of this so pointlessly. Like think about all of the different legal challenges that he's facing, the criminal cases that are coming forward. Like, he has this Georgia case, even if he had succeeded in getting Brad Raffinsberger to find him, the 11,000 votes, he needed to flip like three other states, it wasn't going to happen, this is all pointless. Storming the Capitol on January 6th, Mike Pence can't save you, buddy,

it was pointless, and that's another trial. Paying off Stormy Daniels, everybody already knows that you're a horrible, horrible person, that was probably wasted money. Melania is under no illusions as to who you are, that was pointless. The stealing of the classified documents, what did he gain from that? It's not even like he achieved his most subversive, dishonest goals by committing these crimes. He accomplished nothing by committing these crimes except guaranteeing that he'd spend years facing legal challenges. They're going to be a major distraction and waste of money during an election year. And along the way, the needless, constant mockery of the names of black women, they cannot pass up an opportunity, whether it's him or

Alina Haba or Tucker Carlson with Kamala Harris. Like, I love that they continually complain about being called racist. And they can't even, they're not even satisfied to just have the massive wide scale systemic racism that they baked into our country and our economy. They have to have the petty little conversational bigotry too. Utterly stupid. platform for HR and finance that frees you from the mundane so you can focus on more meaningful work. Workday, moving business forever forward. Judge Scott McAfee ruled that Fannie Willis can remain in charge of the racketeering case against Donald Trump and his nearly 20 co-conspirators on one condition, a condition that has

since been met with special prosecutor Nathan Wade resigning from the case. So he wrote in his ruling that the court finds the allegations and evidence legally insufficient to support a finding of an actual conflict of interest. That's the most important headline version of this that most people have already breezed past and they're much more interested in the the stuff that we're going to be discussing later. However, the appearance of impropriety remains and must be handled as previously outlined before the prosecution can proceed. So that was the requiring that either she or he, Nathan Wade, resign from the case.

So they find that the evidence did not establish the DA's receipt of a material financial benefit as a result of her decision to hire and engage in a romantic relationship with Wade. That was one of the main allegations that they were taking the money or that she was getting the money back from him. He's saying there is not actually evidence of that. But the evidence demonstrated that the financial gain flowing from a relationship with Wade was not a motivating factor on the part of the DA to indict and prosecute this case. No reasonable person ever thought that it was, but it was a Hail Mary attempt by the Trump legal team to make this entire thing disappear. So in addition of that, look, there were a lot of criticisms. We could read through a lot of it.

We're just going to go to sort of a mash up of some of the most forceful criticisms right here. And these are all verbatim from the opinion. First of all, there is a, quote, significant appearance of impropriety that infects the prosecution team. Second, a tremendous lack in judgment. Third, the unprofessional manner of the DA's testimony. Fourth, the odor of mendacity remains. I googled mendacity. It means lying.

Fifth, the legally improper speech that was made in the church that Lord just talked about, legally improper with the effect to cast racial aspersions on the defendants. Sixth, the DA has created dangerous waters for the DA to wade further into. And finally, and I think this is the most damning, there are reasonable questions about whether the DA testified untruthfully. So covering a lot of ground there, Jank, I want to start with you. What do you make of the criticisms from the judge? Look, it's impossible for me to know because I didn't watch all the testimony.

And Fannie Willis and Wade forcefully denied what had happened. But the testimony of her friend who said that they actually were in the relationship for two years before he, she hired him for this job, was devastating. And so at the end of the day, I come out probably exactly where the judge is, which is, I don't know that they proved a conflict of interest beyond a reasonable doubt, but it definitely has the appearance of impropriety. And guys, remember, this is the impropriety about the taxpayers' money being spent on her boyfriend, if that's the case, as she hires him for this job, right? Again, it has nothing to do with the heart of the case of Donald Trump that would be prosecuted under any prosecutor and has nothing to do with the relationship. But that's what it looked like to me, to the best of my ability to discern it.

And I probably would have ruled the same exact way that the judge did. I don't know if you guys disagree. Monda, what do you think? I think it's a trash statement. All seven of those reasons by the judge does not speak to the motion. The motion was about a conflict of interest as it pertains to being able to preside over this case. And the judge absolutely exonerated the district attorney office in that manner. The rest of this is just hyperbole.

It's just him speaking about, well, not hyperbole, just junk. him speaking about things that he has no jurisdiction over. And that to me is the problem with all of this. That to me is the continuation of trying to sexualize these black people who were doing with two consenting adults decided to do. As it pertains to this case and issues of proprietary or improprietary actions, I really don't see how her relationship or her hiring this person, this man, to be her special counsel. For a cheeseburger, for a vacation, it's absolutely ridiculous to me. And anybody that think it has anything to do with other than stalling this case did not pay attention to the fact that the judge had this ruling over a week ago already signed and just sat on it. Him playing politics in his own self in his own mind.

And that to me is dastardly. That is what we're not talking about. This is the success of the BS that is strong. Him, his ability to muddy the water when it's not even, when it's not even necessary, we wasted two months to do exactly what Trump wanted to do. Take attention off for him in this case, because he's still under a RICO charges in Georgia. Let's just say that. Let's also say that in any other normal circumstances, people under RICO would not be walking around here freely. There's another RICO case that this attorney brought against a group of rappers, a rap label, and she called them a gang, a criminal gang or enterprise. and none of them are walking free unless they cooperated with her.

So the idea that Trump is suffering somehow because of Fannie Lewis, I'm sorry, not Fannie Lewis, Fannie Willis and her relationship with this counselor is absolutely ridiculous to me. And it is a nothing burger. Nothing. And I say that because if we sit back and watch at what this case is about, America's democracy, and someone literally making and planning on all different levels on how to steal the election, why are we spending two months on a motion when most motions last about 30 or 40 minutes? Yeah, yeah, I have the same frustration. In terms of what the judge said, I feel like I'm in a weird position where kind of between the two where I don't necessarily disagree with any of it. I would just question why it needs to be such a significant

part of what the judge put out. It like it feels like of a kind to the her report where it's like you didn't commit a crime, we're not going to investigate you, but what could we do here? It makes you look bad. Now, this doesn't seem as inherently dishonest as apparently a lot of the her report stuff was we eventually found out. But it feels similar and more important than that because, you know, like that gets to her career. She's an individual. She's going to do what she's going to do. Everything seems to be lining up that it all suspiciously delivers the delays that Donald Trump is asking for.

The hush money trial was just delayed for another month. Because they need time to look over documentation. Eileen Cannon is getting involved in delaying things. The Supreme Court, like cartoonishly delayed the most important trial. And so whether it's like a Trump-appointed judge or not, everything seems to be like, well, you know, he doesn't really have anything whose argument, but maybe if we just give another month, maybe like two more months, when honestly the case I made on the damage report, and this is the last thing I'll say is, Donald Trump says, I cannot be wasting my time

when I should be campaigning with all of this stuff. This is election interference, because it it takes my time away. But the funny thing about that is he's already locked up the Republican nomination. And the RNC is not for multiple months. This is the perfect time to get all the trials out of the way. Prove your innocence. And then before the general election even formally begins, you could be back on the campaign trail, unencumbered by these trials. Instead, they're delaying everything until around the time, if not later, the R&C would happen. It's going to obviously be a bigger obstacle to him campaigning, but directly as a result of the the advocacy of him and his legal team.

Yeah, so I'll say the last couple things for me. Look, I do have a disagreement here, which is, I think that all this stuff is irrelevant to the Trump trial, other than the delay, which I'm gonna get to next. But I don't think it's irrelevant overall. If she was going out with him before she made the decision to hire him, and then she hired him, whether he took her on vacations and she got a burger or she didn't, you can't hire your boyfriend to do the most important trial of your life with taxpayer money. You just can't. It's just, it's just nuts. I'm sorry. It's a terrible idea. So I agree with

the judge on that. I agree with you guys that he might have been gratuitous with seven different attacks against her. And John makes a good point about how it reminds him with Robert her, like, well, okay, technically I'm ruling with her, but I got to, you know, make sure that I say enough bad things. So I seem balanced at a minimum, right? So now having said that one of our viewers, I think, actually made the best point. It's actually one of our members in the member section, tyt.com slash join, do the show with us. And when you make great points, we share it with everybody or hit the join button below if you're on YouTube. Bloded Eagle wrote in, the win is the delay. Now I know a president

can't pardon himself from a state crime, but he probably has a better chance of being elected if the trial is after the election. If he is convicted after the election, it would probably be easier to skirt the punishment as a sitting president. That is exactly right. That's why I love having such a smart audience. And so to me, the number one culprit here is no one we've mentioned so far, other than Fannie Willis in a sense in this case too, which is all of the prosecutors that waited two and a half years before charging Donald Trump. Why did you guys wait? It's irrational. It's maddening. I said from day one, charge him, charge him.

He did a coup against America and Merrick Arlen sat on his hands for two and a half years because Donald Trump is one of the elites and he was worried, oh, we'll set a bad president if we prosecute Donald Trump, maybe they'll prosecute one of us next. So he didn't do anything. And yes, both either the prosecutor in New York, Alvin Bragg and Fawney Wilson in Fulton County, they also waited too long, way, way, way too long. And now, of course, trials take forever. If you don't know that, sorry, you're not a very good prosecutor.

Oh, golly, gee, we ran into a delay. Oh, you don't say. Oh, nobody could have seen that coming. It's only a legal case that runs into delays all the time. Did you think the other side wasn't going to present any evidence or any case? Actually, it was trumped. There's an excellent chance they were going to present any evidence. But they were going to try something.

And so they got this because they're going to throw the kitchen sink at it. Should have started earlier instead of trying to protect the elites 24-7. So I am pretty livid about that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you have every right to be livid about when these cases started. It also, it also, we should also acknowledge that, you know, putting together a RICO charge is not an easy thing. I mean, and we watched it happen with a lot of the mobsters when Rudy Giuliani had a brain. Well, actually what we're learning is actually what we're learning, and we should have actually probably known this anyway, was he wasn't the lead architect of those trials, he just took credit for them. So anyway, here's what I think about all of this.

We're about to watch lightness speed prosecution towards Trump. And I think, I think we're gonna, Fannie Lewis is gonna make a absolutely ass of every attorney that's defending one of those defendants. And it's gonna be her job because what people forget is she's a thorough, thorough prosecutor. Would I have appointed my spouse to be the lead attorney? Probably not. But she also tried to get other people that turn her down, very notable people. So I, and what I'm not willing to do is let this judge who happens to be a federalist, just like her was, who happens to be a lifelong Republican, just like her was and is. I don't think that they know that they are just being, you know, even killing these cases.

I do, I do blame fanny for putting herself in this position. I hear you on that, you think. But like I said, there have been other situations we've seen since cases have been over. arising against Trump where attorneys, district attorneys didn't go through this. We literally watch Florida move a case to a space where Trump appointed a judge that was extremely friendly for him. And I think, you know, we're watching these double expectations and going along with them as if they're normal. So yeah, finally has the role in this, but also let's not let up the legal system that's playing to Trump's card. Yeah. All right. So we got to take a break here,

guys when we come back we do have the unfortunately deadly serious story yet again in Gaza another massacre by by a food truck and and then but later in the program Ted Cruz is weeping and you will have joy over that for an ironic reason down goes porn hub specifically in the state of Texas we'll give you details well all right anyway I'll save more dad jokes for later All right, we'll be back. All right, back on the show, Jenk John, I'mondo, with you guys, Daniel W, just joined and David McGurran, just did. hit the join button below, we appreciate you.

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And take a look at it later to see if you'd like to join or contribute or anything to help us through these tough times. All right, John. Yes, okay, let's talk about some more tough times. Gaza's health ministry says that at least 20 people were killed and over 155 were injured by Israeli shelling as they were waiting for delivery of food at an area where food trucks often congregate. Now the Israeli government denies these claims and we're going to get to their statements. But bear in mind that those numbers are of course preliminary. Victims

are still being moved from the site of the massacre to hospitals in the area and it's expected that they could move up and also while we're talking about the different explanations for this and you're absorbing the fact that so many people have died just waiting for food bear in mind that at least a half million people are on the brink of famine in Gaza a famine that we've been talking about the show for several weeks very very little aid or food has gotten in in the meantime meaning that the situation which was already devastating is growing worse with every passing day now blame for the massacre and for the deaths depends on who you

ask. The IDF said that a preliminary review found that Israeli forces, quote, did not open fire at the aid convoy in Kuwait Square, instead claiming that, quote, armed Palestinians opened fire while Ghazan civilians were awaiting the arrival of the aid convoy. As aid trucks were entering, they continued to shoot as the crowd of Gazans began looting the trucks. Additionally, a number of Ghazan civilians were run over by the trucks. Of course, this calls to mind the flower massacre of not too many weeks ago. Now, that's what the IDF says. The Ministry of Health, in Gaza described the attack as a premeditated massacre. They said the incident was a result of the Israeli occupation forces targeting a gathering of citizens waiting for humanitarian aid to satisfy their thirst at the Kuwaiti roundabout in Gaza. Many of those who experienced the attack are giving interviews about the experience. One individual who went to Al-Shefa Hospital said, we were sitting there and there was nothing.

Suddenly they bombarded us with shells. There are a lot of martyrs and injuries. We were there to bring food for our children. And to add some context to this, this particular location where the attack happened, the Kuwaiti roundabout, was the site of this massacre yesterday. It was also the site of a very similar massacre the day before that. And for the same reason, it's a common place for the trucks to gather. It's a place where you can expect that food might be delivered.

And so Wednesday, seven people were killed, 86 injured today, several times that. And I just want you to think about the fact that on Wednesday people were so desperate for food that they went to a place, sort of a similar sort of site to where the flower massacre happened, and many people died as a result. And then one day later, people went to that same place for food because what else are they supposed to do? You went to a place where people were just massacred. There's blood on the streets already, and there's a worse massacre. And then I want you to ask yourself the question, what are people going to do tomorrow? Are they not going to go to the same place? I mean, they know that people are being massacred every day that they go there, but what are you supposed to do?

You're starving, your family is starving. They've been starving for weeks. You know there's a good chance that you could die or be shot or shelled if you go there. And yet many will do that. Apparently, according to the government media office in Gaza, at least 400 people have been killed just in incidents like this, gatherings of civilians trying to get aid. And honestly, we have to put it in the context of the larger conflict. This sort of thing happening in another conflict would almost stand out more because you'd

have people dying as a result of the war and then innocent civilians being killed. But we also have to bear in mind that civilians are dying at a far faster rate than basically any world conflict for many years. The killing of civilians is already so utterly indiscriminate that I honestly, I think that we have to bear that in mind in terms of how we attribute blame, but also understand the people that are going to these places. The death of civilians is just such a constant, whether you stay at home, whether you go for aid, there's difficult to even conceive of how you live in those circumstances.

Yeah, apologies, what do you think? So first of all, you know, Israel's denying it, saying, oh, it was the Hamas. Okay, so that's what they say every single time. They're the boy who cried wolf. I don't, in this particular case, there's not enough evidence yet to know for sure that they're lying, except for every other time where they've been lying and proven so afterwards. And it doesn't really matter, and I'll tell you why it doesn't matter. This is not only did the flower mask grab room while 112 people died, all those hundreds of people injured,

etc. Similar situation, obviously. But there's been shootings by the IDF at places where Palestinians were getting humanitarian relief 22 times. So don't tell me, oh, I didn't do the 23rd one. I did 22 others. Killed 8 that time. I killed 12 that time. I killed 112 other time. Why are you shooting at people desperately trying to get food who are starving? Why are you shooting at them from drones? Why are you shooting at them from tanks? So it doesn't matter at all.

Israel is 100% responsible in these situations. You know why we wouldn't have anybody die in that situation if it wasn't for Israel? Because they wouldn't have been starving in the first place. And they wouldn't have had to go and desperately try to get food for their family. So look, once you see the CNN video that we've now shown you a couple of times of the babies that are and the children that are starving to death. And they look like Holocaust victims. They look exactly like them. And nothing else matters.

Right now, the Israeli cabinet is starving over half a million people to death. There is no excuse for that under any circumstances. There's no defense of it. There's no nothing of it. And for God's sake, if you're a good person, don't defend it because it makes you look awful. like you have no heart at all and you just think that those are what cattle dogs I don't know I mean honestly if Israel was doing this to dogs America would have already revolted and we would not be sending them money let's be honest and it's heartbreaking it's absolutely heartbreaking but if you saw dog starving if the American people saw dog starving like that and then slaughtered every once in a while IDF just opens fire and murders 112 dogs America would have pulled its funding. You know it. You know it. If we had video of it, you know we would have pulled the funding. But they're Palestinians. So look, Israel has utterly, utterly destroyed its reputation

in the world. It is now loathed by universally. What a terrible disastrous strategy. I know, look, I can't speak to people who support the right wing government of Israel rationally anymore. They've lost complete touch with reality. And they're out in outer space going, oh, we got this. We've almost won. This is winning where everybody in the world thinks you're monsters now? Okay, so those folks, they're never going to care about Palestinians. They don't care. They don't care that they're being slaughtered and starved and all that stuff. So I can't talk to them about Palestinians because they don't emotionally connect about them. So let me talk about Israel. Under what scenario does this help Israel?

Like the supporters of Netanyahu in this right wing government, you've lost your minds. You're absolutely deranged. This is the worst thing that could possibly happen to Israel. Hamas couldn't destroy Israel. They wouldn't even have a chance. The worst they could do was October 7th and it was brutal and terrible. But at that point, Israel had all the world's sympathy and empathy. But Netanyahu, has managed to destroy the reputation and the standing of Israel in the world. So for those of you who are still deranged and can't see straight, as a friend and ally, I'm telling you right now, you have to turn around.

You have to turn around right now. I don't know if Israel can ever recover from this. But if you're going to recover, you've got to turn around now. What happens if, you know, that just yesterday, 21 children starved to death? What happens if 158,000 people starve to death? Are you guys crazy? Have you lost your goddamn minds? Not only are you doing this to the Palestinians.

You've totally destroyed what anyone thinks of Israel. Good luck trying to get anybody to think anything positively about Israel now. What are you going to get tourism? Oh, come see us starve children to death. Are you insane? What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm deeply concerned and I don't care what anybody says.

I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm deeply concerned for my Jewish friends. Because what do you think people are going to think, you idiots, you idiots. What do you think people are going to think? Do you have any idea of the amount of anti-Semitic tropes that exist in the world? Number one being, forget them, I don't even want to list them. I don't want to list them. And now here comes this monstrous moron, Netanyahu, who's like, hey,

I'll try, I'll give these guys fodder here, watch me kill kids. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're going to get people killed all across the world, you idiot. If you can't see that Israel has to turn around this goddamn second, you've lost your mind, period. Mondale. Yeah, I mean, it's a short list of days in my life that I've ever agreed with South African government. But when they say we need to be bringing up human violations, I mean, I'm sorry, human rights violations against Israel, I'm right in line with that.

When are we going to put IDF in the same place we put those responsible for the genocide in Rwanda? Because what's happening in Gaza is nearing those numbers. When you talk about a half a million people at threat of being starving in death, those numbers will trump what happened in Rwanda. So I am amazed at how quick the Western world was to call out that African nation for all of the horrors that it did. did to those people, but are silent while Benjamin Netanyahu's government is doing the exact same thing on everybody's TV, because we have way more technology and we're seeing it. You cannot deny the fact that those kids, bones are showing that Jake is talking about.

We saw those seven-year-olds, those three-year-olds. The list of babies that have been murdered under the age of two will take you more than an hour just to say their name. This is not a game. That what is happening, that government in Israel right now is a terrorist organization. And not naming that, not naming them as that, is all of us doing a disservice to everybody who has already died and will continue to die as they try to get food to prevent them and their children from dying.

We should probably take a break. There is more to come after this though. Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog.

Tilly Dog, not included. The Naked Gun. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. All right, back on TYT, Jank, John and Mondale with you guys. And EC just joined in Vicky R. gifted a membership on YouTube. You guys are amazing, love you. John.

Okay, not me, though. We're going to go now to Bernie Sanders. Can I talk to you about the 32-hour work week? It seems like Fox business. It seems like Democrats want businesses to be taxed more, pay their workers. Really? Is that what do you think? Pay their workers. Excuse me.

I didn't get to ask for a question. Okay. Senator, you want to hold it? Okay. So that is obviously a testy exchange between Senator Bernie Sanders and Hillary Vaughn of Fox Business, who swears that she's going to get to the question after she rattles off her list of talking points against Bernie Sanders, who, as you probably are aware earlier this week, put forward legislation to establish a 32-hour work week with no loss of pay, effectively trying to improve the standard of living, the lives of working people. We're going to give them a chance to provide a little bit more detail on that.

Senator, you want to hold it. Okay. We held a hearing on a 32-hour work week because what we have seen is that over the last 50 years, despite a huge increase in worker productivity, almost all of the new wealth has gone to the top 1% or 60% of the people living paycheck to paycheck. Many of our people are exhausted. We work the longest hours of many people in the industrial. world, I think it's time for a short and work week. Can I ask you a question about that? It seems like Democrats want businesses to be taxed more, pay their workers more, lower prices, and now pay people not to work. You know what I would like to see? How are businesses going to survive that? That's the question.

How can businesses survive all of those proposals? When Mr. Bezos pays an effective tax rate lower than the average worker, I think we have a real problem on our tax system. I think that billionaires have got to stop paying their fair share of taxes. And I have to say, I think that that was Bernie Sanders being kind of rude. She had a bullet point list of talking points that she needed to desperately read. And how is she supposed to advance a fuck business if she doesn't read the talking points the billionaires want to hear? All he's calling for is a slightly shorter work week to be phased in over the course of four years and effectively establish a new baseline,

where and if you work more than that, you'll receive overtime pay. And that is obviously radical and it can't be born. I want to remind everyone that the 40 hour work week that most people have access to right now was the product of literally decades of labor organizing and was enshrined in federal law back in 1940, which was damn near a century ago, and I guess it can never get better. A hundred years of, as Bernie Sanders points out, productivity gains almost every single year, creating an economy that is the wonder of the world that has produced untold wealth, the work of regular people that has created the millionaires and the billionaires that we have in

America, 1940. It was 40 hours. And it cannot be 39 hours in 2024. If you even hold a hearing, if you even debate the possibility, you're going to be ambushed in the hallway by reporters sent there to advance the interests of the wealthiest people in the country, perhaps in the world. Jake, what do you think? Yeah, so okay, buckle up because I partly disagree. Uh-oh, I'm going to get interesting. Okay, so, but my opinion here is quite nuanced. So number one, I kind of love what Bernie did, not just because I like cremudgeants, but I do. I agreed with everything he said minus the 32-hour work week, but I thought the funniest part was the reporter, He was like corporate media personified.

Like boil down all of corporate media into a human being and then send them as a robot to talk to Bernie Sanders. Why are you hurting the poor businesses? Businesses cannot get a break in America. Okay, the average man is so rich, but the billionaires are so poor. What? Okay. So all the things that Bernie listed off are absolutely right. The billionaires don't pay their taxes.

They do loopholes. deregulation, productivity is sky high, wages haven't kept up. So I just have a different fix. I think that number one thing you've got to do is end corporate rule. And the way you do that is take money out of politics. And then you could get into wonderful debates about what we should do to fix the current system. I think higher minimum wage, which then pushes up other wages, obviously universal health care. There's a thousand things I would do.

And John is right about the role of unions. I remember, you know, I've seen the bumper sticker, which I think actually my original co-founder Ben Manquist's dad Frank Manquitts might have come up with, which is if you like the weekends, thank the unions, because they're the ones who got you the weekends. And all of that is true. I just think that 32-hour work week is my least favorite of all of those proposals, partly because I don't really agree with it. And we could have that debate. And yes, if you don't know, I also run this company. So that comes from management. So you We take it with a giant grain of salt, okay, but that is my real opinion.

But also because I don't think it's great optics. So I think we have a hundred issues on this topic within it, right? The minimum wage and all the others, where we have enormous popularity, where the American people agree with us, 67%, 70%, 84%, on and on and on. I bet 32-hour work week does not pull well. So it's leaning in in the wrong direction in terms of both, in my opinion, policy and politics. But let's get other opinions. Monty, what do you think?

Yeah, I think John, I mean, well, I agree more with John than you on this one, Jane. Let me tell you why. So John talked about almost 100 years. And actually, it's closer than what you said, John, if you consider the fact that 1926, Henry Ford actually introduced the 40-hour work week, Not based on science, just on the fact that the 48 hour work week didn't really produce any much productivity from his workers. So he cut their hours back to 40 hours without cutting their paint in 1926. And he saw productivity go up and he helped eliminate burnout from his workers. So I think the idea that, you know, this notion that we need to be working people 40 hours a week is based on nothing.

And we have too much science, too much tools, too much technology that can measure things. things to base anything that affects all of us, especially our working age people, but on something that's as old as 1926. I would also go and say that what I can't stand as Republicans talking about how much billionaires paying taxes. Let's be clear, America's 400 wealthiest billionaire families, pay 8% in taxes, whether the average family is paying about 12%. So you have the richest people paying a lot less amount of their resources than the people

who need it, people that are living paycheck to paycheck. So it's absolutely not just disingenuous for Fox to be making this. Fox business to be making this argument. It's an absolutely pretty damn disgusting if you're asking me. Furthermore, furthermore, if we're going to keep people at 40 hours a week, can we lower, can we minimize that wage gap between those at the top and those actually producing something? We have more workers than we've ever had, and we need the least amount of workers than we've ever needed, and tomorrow we'll need less workers because of technology.

So are we saying we're comfortable with people starving or not having enough to basically survive? Or are we going to get serious about the universal basic income? Yeah. Yeah, I would just argue for higher wages and higher benefits as opposed to lower hours. Like if you gave me an option, and I bet if you gave the average guy or average family an option of, hey, you work a day less or you make a lot more. I bet they go with a lot more. But don't get me wrong, guys.

I get it. I get it. Working four days a week sounds like a dream. And if we can get society to that point where we could pull it off, fantastic. And I get it that some of you think that maybe we're there yet, but there's so many things to fix. Look, if this was the only thing that Bernie Sanders was advocating for, I'd probably disagree with it too. Of course, for Bernie Sanders, it's not. Look, I think a lot of people, the American worker has been trained by the media for decades and decades and decades to.

to be incredibly suspicious towards and hostile towards anyone advocating for their interests. They have been trained to think that that's a damn commie, basically. And so I don't doubt that right now a lot of people would find it to be impossible. But it's not impossible, I mean, many countries have this, many experiments have been run in different countries and in this country, and he has the stats on the number of corporations that have instituted four day work weeks, and then after the trial period ends, they continue it, because productivity is improved, workers are more happy, there's less retention. It doesn't have to be a dream.

We may have to educate people for a few years for a decade, but I think that we should probably start that at some point. And look, I want people to be paid more and have better benefits too. But also, I think that if all of this technology is supposed to have achieved anything, can it not at some point let people live a little bit more? Like I have a daughter now, I'd like to spend some time with her. Like I want people to be able to go out into nature, to read a book, to spend time with their family, to reinvigorate friendships.

Work isn't just supposed to be about toil. Like I'm lucky enough that I have a job that I love. Most people don't have that benefit. But regardless of which side of that line you fall on, like life isn't just supposed to be about generating wealth. You're supposed to be able to enjoy it. And two days is something, I'm glad that we have that weekend, but never three.

We literally have AI models now that are replacing people's jobs. And those at the top are anticipating far more to be replaced. And it just seems ironic that with all that advanced technology, The only diminution in your hours you can get is when your job's entirely eliminated and replaced with a robot. So you can go from 40 to zero, but you can't go from 40 to 38. It just seems weird to me. Listen, I'm over here smiling guys, and I don't know if y'all can see it because y'all is in studio. But I'm laughing because not at what you're saying, John, because it's absolutely factual.

It's just that you're in jink right now sound like the CNN interview, I mean, the Don't let me interview with Elon Musk. So don't lose your job. Don't fire me. Don't fire me. Afterwards, I sent a text. Contracted. Terminated. Oh my God.

Anyway, yes. And by the way, thank you for making me feel confident of to have this district. Got the same day. And I like doing my job. I'm not asking for a full day off, maybe a half day on Friday. It would be nice, you know. But anyway, search on TDR's YouTube channel. I've done many videos about the four day work week if you want more of my thoughts on that.

That said, there is other big news bearing on the election. One of the kingmakers on the Republican side, a tastemaker, if you will, has weighed in on the presidential endorsement. Let's go to this. Let me ask you this, we have not spoken. since former President Trump sewed up the nomination, which he did earlier this week. And he has received endorsements from some of the people who were running against him. But we have not heard from you. Will you be endorsing your former president?

You were on the ticket with him last time around. Well, Martha, I appreciate the question. And it should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year. Okay. Good response, strong response, equally strong response would have been Martha, he sent a mob to kill me. But anyway, we're glossing over that. I know it's uncouth to point out that he sent a chanting mob to hang you. But anyway, look, regardless, that is Mike Pence, willing to admit that he's not going to endorse Donald Trump. It would have been far easier for him to just go along with it, the vast majority of Republicans.

Whether they like Trump or not, they all pretend to. And they all say that they're going to support Donald Trump. But that's true for many of the politicians. It's true for people like Tucker Carlson. Most of them don't have the balls necessary to admit that they don't like this guy, and they think he's an agent of chaos. But Mike Pence eventually, perhaps too late, came to that position, and now he's saying that he's not going to endorse him. And I also want to just give you a little bit of his argumentation as to why, because it's actually multifaceted. During my presidential campaign, I made it clear that there were profound differences between me and President Trump on a range of issues.

And not just our difference on my constitutional duties that I exercised on January the 6th. I mean, as I have watched his candidacy unfold, I've seen him walking away from our commitment to confronting the national debt. I've seen him starting to shy away from a commitment to the sanctity of human life. And this last week is his reversal on getting tough on China and support. supporting our administration's effort to force a sale of bite dance TikTok. In each of these cases, Donald Trump is pursuing and articulating an agenda that is at odds with the conservative agenda that we governed on during our four years. And that's why I cannot in good conscience endorse Donald Trump in this campaign.

Okay, so in addition to that, he says he's going to keep his vote private. but not totally private. He's not going to vote for Biden. So I guess the options are he's not going to endorse Trump, but he's still going to vote for him or RFK Jr. I mean, he doesn't strike me as a Cornell West kind of guy. So I'm not sure if it's as private as he's pretending it's going to be. What do you think?

Yeah, I get it. You want to vote for Jill Stein. You just don't want to say it. Not a big deal. Okay, no, I'm going to say somebody a little controversial. I think that Mike Pence is probably going to go down in the history, is an American hero. So now Mike Pence is, okay, get ready, buckle up, race for impact, okay?

Yeah, you don't have to tell me that Mike Pence is an otherwise terrible guy. Of course he is, right? He wants to take away women's freedom. He's a Christian fundamentalist, doesn't believe really in a secular government or our constitution in that regard. And I can go on and on with all the things that I have said about Mike Pence. I believe about Mike Pence that are all negative, okay, except that if he had actually gone along with Donald Trump's plot on January 6th, they might have pulled it off.

Because remember, it's not about the riot, it's about the fake electors, and if Pence had delayed the proceedings, it would have gone back to the states, they would have launched the fake electors, and the Republicans would have realized we just vote according to the states in the House, and we could just take this thing, and they could have. and Mike Pence didn't let them. And he protected America in that moment. So that, to me, outweighs everything else he's ever done in his life. And so, and here, I say today, because it takes some courage to do what he did today, too.

Because as you see the Tim Scots of the world, and we're going to get to him later in the show, I mean, kissing up to Donald Trump in the most pathetic, groveling ways and just debasing themselves, right? Here's a guy who we don't agree with at all on anything else, who at least has the backbone to say, no, I don't care if he's going up against Joe Biden. I don't care if every other Republican is going to hate me for it. I am not going to endorse Donald Trump. And I tip of the hat, I respect that. And look, I think for me, it would have been easy and a no-brainer.

The guy tried to get you murdered. And if you don't know, not only did they chant, hang Mike Pence, hang Mike Pence as they were going into the Capitol, which we played for you many times. But on top of that, witnesses say Mark Meadows went into Donald Trump's office on that day to deliver the message that his supporters were looking to murder Mike Pence. And Trump said he had it coming. Okay, so you can say, hey, Jen, your bar is too low. If when someone says they didn't mind you being murdered by their

supporters, yeah, I don't think you should endorse them. But if you're a Republican politician, that is a very high bar. Because all they ever do is grovel and kiss Donald Trump's ass. So the fact that Mike Pence, who was his vice president, didn't do that at a critical time, again, is a great credit to him. All right, Mondale, what do you think? I think, You know, when you say Mike Pence is going to be remembered as an American hero, all I can remember in my head are the names of Confederate generals, Stonewall Jackson, Robert Lee, Braxton Bragg, and Mike Pence. He's going to be a hero to that segment of America. Ain't no way in hell, he's an American hero. Nobody's going to remember that. And I'm going to tell you why. This is not an American politician. This is not a Republican politician. He didn't, he wasn't as courageous on the campaign trail. He recognized that he leaves. He's done. His political career is over.

There's no more campaigns for Mike Bitts at all. So right now he's trying to carve out a space where he can look like he has some type of decency after this Trump movement is over. This is this, this is not a politician. This is someone who was weak as a politician a few months ago, not strong enough to condemn Trump in this voice until what he see that he has no opportunity. I see him just like I see the rest of the Republicans that stand beside Trump when he said and done crazy things. things about this country that they're supposed to love, and also the people that they love. Like Ted Cruz, who Trump called their wife's ugly, yet is still, he's still out here carrying Trump's water.

What Trump said about John McCain and supposedly John McCain's best friend, he who would not be named, Baltimore from South Carolina, still carrying Trump water. So I just don't see hero in Mike Pence. I see someone looking for a squirly way out of what he found himself in, which is, I won't say it. Okay, so I love the show. I love that we now disagreed one out of the four stories or so and there's nothing wrong with that. We have conversations, et cetera. And I want to say that Mondial made a great point about the timing of this statement. He's right. Mike Pence's political career is over. Mike Pence didn't say this earlier when he had every opportunity

to say it. He's saying it now because he realizes he's not getting back in the Trump administration. Trump has won, he's taken over the R&C, he's won the Republican Party. So all Mike Pence has left is, you know, some sort of corporate gig. And so this is probably a decent transition to it. And I don't want anybody misunderstand what I'm saying. He's not an American hero for saying this today. But for what he did on January 6th in not going along with the coup plot. And again, you could say, hey, low bar, he didn't participate in a coup, but he was a critical, critical person that prevented the coup.

And while I had one last positive note about Mike Pence, which is that the Secret Service came to him and said, we've got to get you out of the building because they're coming for you specifically. And he said, no, I will not leave until I certify this election. So I stick by it. I think they're going to look at him as pretty heroic on that day. Okay, all right, we are massively out of time. We got to go, Mondale, everybody check him out on Rebel headquarters, your awesome brother. And Johns, of course, host the damage report.

Check him out there. We'll be right back.