The Young Turks - Pete Hegseth Orders Seal Team 6 To Leave No Survivors In Boat Strikes - December 1, 2025
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Is the Secretary of Defense guilty of murder?
Some Republican senators are being to wonder if that's true, that maybe he is.
And then the FBI director, Cash Patel, in some trouble because he insisted on wearing a woman's FBI jacket with Velcro straps that he apparently didn't earn.
There's more to that story, but it's a weird, puzzling story.
Cash Patel's a weird puzzling figure.
And then are we on the brink of war with Venezuela?
Today there was a White House meeting where Donald Trump gathered up all the idiots and looms that work for him to discuss whether they should go to war illegally.
So lots to get to.
And that's just the first hour.
Wait to get to the second hour.
All right.
Jordan, what are we starting with, brother?
Well, let's start with Venezuela, Jack.
The Washington Post issued a devastating report that essentially paints Pete Hegseth's attack on a so-called
Venezuelan drugboat as a war crime. And after initial denials, it looks like Caroline Leavitt is
basically confirming that, yeah, it happened. Now here's the headline, which claims that
Heg-Seth told Sealed Team 6 to kill them all, as two men clung to a stricken burning ship targeted
by SEAL Team 6, the joint special operations commander followed the defense secretary's order
to leave no survivors. And the intercept and CNN issued similar reports. In all, the boat was
allegedly attacked four times, twice to kill the crew, and two more times to sink the boat.
And I'll show you what the Trump administration said and what they are saying. But first,
Cenk, what are your two cents here?
Yeah, the two cents are, one, who gave the order?
We're gonna give you some details and we're to tell you who the administration is throwing
under the bus.
And is that person guilty of a war crime and of homicide?
The second question is nearly unarguable, it's definitely murder and they should be going
to prison if there's any justice.
I guess not least is the third question.
Will there ever be justice in America for someone powerful, ever, ever?
And this is a good case of that, and we'll find out if something as brazenly illegal as this is allowed to stand.
Yes. Now, if it's true, the attack on the survivors would amount to a war crime, according to pretty much every expert that isn't in Trump's pocket.
What is Pete Hegseth saying? Well, on his official Secretary of War account, he wrote a very lengthy statement, which has all of the same.
standard denials. As usual, the fake news is delivering more fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory
reporting to discredit are incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland. And I'll spare you
the rest, which mentions Biden, drug cartels, and even people from Afghanistan. Meanwhile,
on his personal account, he posted this, for your Christmas wish list. Featuring Frank
Franklin, the turtle. Now, I think that's very disparaging to Franklin. He's a peaceful turtle.
And when I asked about it, Trump said this. Take a look.
Talks a little bit about the strikes in the controversy around Secretary of Defense Pete Hanks said.
I don't know anything about it. He said he did not say that, and I believe him 100%.
You're talking about the two men?
The second strike to kill the two men.
No, he said he said he didn't do it. He said he never said.
Would you be okay with that if he did?
He said he didn't do it, so I don't have to make that decision.
Trump says he wouldn't have wanted a second strike.
Meanwhile, Republican Mark Wayne Mullen had this response for Dana Bash.
If they do find that the defense secretary gave an order to eliminate people who were already injured on a boat,
which a lot of legal experts say is illegal, Mark Kelly was just here and he said it's potentially a war crime.
war crime, should Pete Hexseth face consequences?
Listen, you're once again making assumptions.
That's not even kind of accurate, I don't believe.
All we're doing is talking about an assumption.
This isn't been proven, it hasn't been said it was actually true.
And as far as Mark Kelly, what he says, Mark Kelly is saying the most ridiculous things
I've ever heard right now.
He's encouraging men and women uniform to question the orders of superior officers.
He just got in saying that the president was racist because he doesn't like brown people.
Yet I sat in front of you as a Cherokee Indian, and I'm very close friends with the president.
Okay, until this afternoon, the Pentagon spokesperson was the only person who could manage to put a sentence together responding to these bombshell reports, saying the entire narrative is completely false.
Ongoing operations to dismantle narco-terrorism and protect the homeland from deadly drugs have been a resounding success.
Parnell also said these people just fabricate anonymously sourced stories out of whole cloth.
But then, today, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt confirmed that Pete Hegseth authorized Admiral Frank Bradley to carry out the strikes.
Take a look.
President Trump and Secretary Hegseth have made it clear that
presidentially designated narco-terrorist groups are subject to lethal
targeting in accordance with the laws of war.
With respect to the strikes in question on September 2nd, Secretary Hegseth authorized
Admiral Bradley to conduct these kinetic strikes.
Admiral Bradley worked well within his authority and the law directing the engagement
to ensure the boat was destroyed and the threat to the United States of America
was eliminated.
So she's saying that Hegeseth generally authorized the strikes, but did not specifically
authorize the double tap. However, they're totally okay with the second strike, and the Admiral
was acting in his authority. Now, 80 have been killed so far, 15,000 troops and over a
dozen warships have been deployed over the last few months. Trump issued a statement that the
The US will be shutting down airspace in Venezuela.
Is this a war crime?
Will there be consequences?
These questions remain, Jank.
What do you think?
Yeah, first, a quick comment on what Waingrove said.
And then I'm gonna get back to other Republicans who actually think there should be accountability,
which is borderline shocking.
That actually is the most shocking part of the story.
But first on Senator Waingro,
He says, oh, you know, Mark Kelly doing these outrageous things like saying don't follow an illegal order.
You mean like one saying that you should do a double tap and murder injured people and that you're after the first strike?
That's an illegal order.
It turns out Mark Kelly was, if anything, prescient in doing that video.
I thought that video had issues, but my God does it apply here, right?
And so this is the very last place you should be bringing up that video.
moron Senator Wayne grow.
Oh, duh, I mean, he said we shouldn't follow illegal orders and then Hegsuth gave an
illegal order to murder people.
You see how wrong Mark Kelly was?
No, if anything, you're proving his point beyond a shadow of a doubt.
And the fact that there are U.S. senators as pathetically unintelligent and immoral as Wayne
Mullen is a great, you know, slight on our country and it bothers me.
So okay, now we're gonna come back to how often these double taps happen, all the different
people who should be put away for them in a minute, but let's break down what happened here.
So now they have confirmed, as Jordan just told you with the press secretary, confirming there
was two strikes. Well, there's four strikes, but the second strike was to kill all the injured
and all the survivors. So now there is no more dispute about that. A second strike, again,
survivors is definitely illegal under international law and under U.S. law.
There's a word for it, put aside war crimes because it triggers people.
So for a lot of people that are in different parts of the political spectrum, but mainly
the right wing, if you say war crimes, they go, hell yeah, all right, we're finally back
to being strong, let's kill people for no reason.
No, war crimes is not a good thing.
And but I put it on the right, to be fair, a lot of the right is now swung around and
is complaining about the war crimes that Israel's doing.
The number one people in favor of war crimes historically in this country are neocons and
Israel first people.
We're gonna come back to that.
Okay, but right now all of a sudden, everyone's acting like, oh my God, it's a double
tap, that's definitely murder, yes, it is, that's what we've been saying all along.
So all right, so we've established that it's murder, then they say, okay, it was Admiral Bradley
who did it.
Okay, so are we gonna bring up Admiral Bradley on charges?
Because if he really took it upon his own to say, oh look guys, there's survivors there.
Well, let's all laws of war say take them as prisoners of war and then deal with them afterwards
in legally sanctioned ways.
By the way, none of which are great.
They don't get roses as prisoners of war, right?
So they get, you know, there's plenty of harsh treatment, et cetera, but we follow a new process.
It's the equivalent of shooting someone in the head after you capture them.
knows that's illegal, everyone knows that's murder, and that Americans don't do that.
So was it Admiral Bradley? Should he be court-martialed and prosecuted for homicide?
I would be shocked if it was Admiral Bradley. It was almost certainly Pete Heggseth. But that's
my opinion based on all the information I've ever seen about, Hegsith, the military,
their rules, etc. But maybe I'm wrong. That's why we should immediately have a trial to see who
murdered those people. Now, okay, we're going to of course get to the biggest question of all,
which is, is there ever any accountability in our government for anything, for any law breaking,
anything that anyone powerful does? So they say, oh, it's under the authority of Heggseth,
and then Bradley does the double tap. Okay, but there is no such authority. So whose fault is
at Hegs with her Bradley.
Normally Jordan, we never get to that question because everyone in Washington is like murder
as long as we do it, war crimes as long as we or our allies do it, it's perfectly fine.
Okay, now wait a minute, is that hyperbole?
No, we have, I have dozens of examples, I'll give you two pretty spectacular ones that
everybody knows, the Apache helicopter video that Chelsea Manning revealed.
So in Iraq, what happened was we got, there's video of it, one of our helicopters shoots at reporters,
kills them. Now they say, well, look, it was an honest mistake without their cameras were
RPGs or whatever. Okay, so I don't think that they thought that they were RPGs. I've seen
the video, it seems like they wanted to murder those journalists, but that's not the conversation
around that. I'm not even talking about that. Then first responders show up in an ambulance
and our guys murder them. I mean, that's clearly illegal. No question, murder, homicide,
war crime. The only person that was punished was Chelsea Manning for revealing that crime.
None of the people who committed that murder got punished. Now over to Israel where they do this
almost every day, there's of course the famous case of Hindra Job that you'll know about,
although again we've reported on dozens of these. Israel does this all the time. So Henry
Job is a six year old, her entire car is shot up, everyone else in our family is dead,
they never did anything wrong. Again, we're not talking about that. Israel murders,
innocent civilians all the time.
We're talking about double taps.
They tell Israel, hey, there's a six year old in the car.
She's alive, we're gonna send an ambulance.
Israel says, okay, then when the ambulance arrives,
they murder everyone in the ambulance and they murder the six year old.
That's clearly illegal, it's a war crime.
We should have ended our funding of Israel that moment,
but there's never any consequences.
And so all of our entire government bowed down to Israel,
say, murder anyone you like, commit any war crime.
I'm like here's, here's another $31 billion commit more war crimes.
So Jordan, after I say all that, and all that is abundantly clear and actually inarguable,
we're left with the question of why in the world are Republican senators saying that there should be an investigation
and we should find out if there was a crime committed here?
That's the part that I'm absolutely puzzled by.
Yeah, I mean, it seems like this invocation of Admiral Bradley today,
by Caroline Leavitt, looks like if there would be any repercussions, it's going to fall on him.
I think that they've just chosen, like, this is our fall guy.
Hegg Seth, you know, delegated his authority to this guy, and this guy did it.
Well, he didn't do it, but if he did do it, he was, it was legal to do so.
This kind of like tap dance routine they're doing in front of the press now that's impossible to deny, it's horrific.
I mean, we're talking about multiple boats, multiple strikes and multiple boats with 80 killed and zero proof that there were ever drugs on these boats.
And they're trying to claim this as self-defense.
We'll get into that in the next block and how this might lead to an actual illegal war.
But it's just like I don't think we'll see any consequences.
Jen, I think talking about the Chelsea Manning situation is a perfect example.
She's the only person that faced any consequences for that situation, for that attack, for that murder.
It's a case of mixed priorities or missed priorities here.
Every single time, it's we're going after the leakers, every department, something bad about our government is shown.
They're going after the leaker.
They're not going after the people who did it.
Time and time again, it's the same story.
Yeah, so I just want you guys to know, Senator Roger Wicker from Mississippi, who was a Republican,
is criticizing what happened and saying it needs to be investigated.
Senator Mike, I'm sorry, Representative Mike Rogers from Alabama,
Representative Mike Turner from Ohio.
These are all Republican congressmen and senators saying we should look further into this.
Even Trump's saying that he wouldn't have authorized the second strike.
That's unusual.
I never see accountability in Washington.
And from the same party?
No, this, it's weird.
Like if you're new to America of the last 20, 30 years, you have to be thinking, what do you mean it's weird?
If somebody commits a crime, doesn't, aren't they held accountable in America?
The answer is a resounding, hell no, they're not if they're among the powerful.
They never, ever get held accountable.
So the fact that his own parties, some are asking for accountability is what makes this story so strange.
Because war crimes, unfortunately, are committed by our government and our allies all the time.
and usually celebrated, right?
So this one is not being celebrated.
So maybe it just goes away in a couple of days and everybody just falls back in line,
goes, oh yeah, murder's great, double taps are great.
We should murder all prisoners or war, either drop a bomb on them or shoot them in the head.
Yay, that would be normal.
If it doesn't go back to that, we'll follow the story and see what happens here.
Could it be that someone will be held accountable for the first time in our lives?
less likely, less likely, especially for a war crime, especially for murdering someone.
I was going to say on a battlefield, but they're largely fishermen and they're on random boats
in the water. So that's who Hegseth is murdering. By the way, Hegseth thinks that he's a tough
guy and this is all like a Fox News report or something. Like, ha-ha, then I told him, why about everybody
on the boat? I'm in a movie, right? I'm the hero. No, first of all, if you're in a movie,
you're the villain. You're not the hero. And second of all, this isn't a movie, brother.
Those are real people, they have kids, and you kill them.
That should be super serious.
And no, you have absolutely no evidence that they were narco terrorist.
None, they've never presented any, and by the way, you should know, why are they doing the double tap?
Because the last time they struck a boat and there were survivors and we brought them in,
it turned out that they were completely innocent and we had to let them go.
So that was embarrassing to the White House.
So they didn't want any evidence left over of their war crimes.
So they said, don't embarrass this again.
Make sure everyone on the boat, guilty or innocent, is murdered.
And that's what they just did.
So if you're okay with that, okay, you're that type of person.
But Americans should not be okay with it.
And our politicians are, you know, if they hold them accountable, I will give them a mountain of credit, a mountain.
It'll be the first time it's ever happened in my lifetime.
And I'll be shocked, I'll fall out of this chair.
But I'm happy to see it, cross your fingers, but there's no way in the world they're going to hold anyone accountable for this, even though it is an unindisputable war crime.
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Let's get to our next story, which I think informs how they are responding to this and how
they'll act in the coming days and weeks.
The question remains, are we going to war with Venezuela?
Well, Trump's warhawks are all assembling as we speak to plan their next move.
According to CNN, Trump is going to hold a meeting in the Oval Office.
The guest list includes Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
General Dan Cain, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio are expected to attend as well
as White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Deputy Chief of Staff, Stephen Min.
Miller. Trump has already attacked very small boats while deploying very large boats. Here is a graphic
representation of the U.S. military presence. 15,000 troops have been sent to the area along with a major
aircraft carrier and over a dozen ships in total. The Pentagon is calling it Operation Southern
Spear. Trump also admitted to allowing the CIA to operate in Venezuela.
The New York Times reported a few days ago that Trump had spoken directly with Venezuelan President Maduro.
When asked about the call, here's Trump's response.
Good.
The New Times, you could have been talking about the answers, yes?
And can you tell us the moment?
We can't do that.
What do you say?
What did you say it went well?
Right.
I would say it went well or badly.
I don't know.
Now, some information about the call has been leaked.
According to the Miami Herald, Trump issued a, quote, blunt warning.
The U.S. message to Maduro was direct.
Safe passage would be guaranteed for him, his wife, and his son, only if he agrees to resign right away.
Maduro reportedly refused Trump's request, and that's the last time the two spoke,
though Maduro allegedly wanted to continue the conversation.
After Trump's announcement on Saturday that Venezuelan airspace should be considered closed in its entirety,
the Maduro government attempted to place another call to Washington but received no response.
Trump has also warned that he would be stopping trafficking by land as well as by sea very soon.
And again, another reminder with all of these conversations, Venezuela is not a major player in the global.
global drug trade. Their neighbor, Colombia is, but not Venezuela. Jank, the question is for you,
are we going to war? So yeah, the question is, is Trump bluffing or not? So if he's bluffing
and he pulls up all these warships and he does the angry call and says you've got only, you know,
a little short time to live, you better turn yourself in and we'll give you safe passage for
your wife and your kids, et cetera. And if it works and he leaves and then Exxon Mobil CEO
becomes the new president of Venezuela, I guess all is well, a coup well done. I'm not in that
camp. I don't want that. I think it's ridiculous that we meddle in other people's affairs and not
for the benefit of America, but for the benefit of corporate donors who would like that oil,
etc. But that's where the damage is limited. What if Maduro calls his bluff? And by the way,
he's in the middle of calling his bluff because he said, according to reports, and again,
We don't know if this is exactly right or not, but apparently what Maduro asked for was,
no, safe passage for many others that are connected to the administration, like the blanket amnesty
for anyone that was involved in his government, and maybe even not political control,
but control over the Venezuelan troops.
Because that second part's a joke.
If you're in charge of the Venezuelan troops, you're in charge of Venezuela, right?
So that's never going to be given.
But the blanket amnesty, I don't know about.
But he doesn't seem like he's saying, oh, okay, Daddy Trump, I'm so scared, here, I'll run away, right?
So if he doesn't run away and Trump's bluff gets called, if it was a bluff, then what does he do?
Well, right now there's a lot of senators asking, including Republican senators, hey, what are we doing?
We never declared war on Venezuela.
And hey, wait a minute, why are we going to war with Rando Venezuela?
Because of drugs.
Okay, I mean, I don't want this to happen under any circumstance.
But Mexico and Colombia are 10, 2,200 times the issue with drugs.
China with producing some of the parts for fentanyl is an issue.
Afghanistan is a huge issue.
Are we going back into Afghanistan?
All those countries are a much bigger problem in the drug trade than Venezuela is.
On the other hand, Venezuela has the largest oil reserve in the world.
I'm sure a coenky dink.
By the way, barely mentioned in mainstream media.
Like, oh yeah, oh, by the way, paragraph 15, largest oil reserve in the world.
in the world. And according to reports here comes more of a mystery, Maduro has already said,
oh, you can take our oil, just don't kill me, right? All right, that's already horrific. Like,
this is the kind of diplomacy we're doing on behalf of corporations, not us. But again,
the damage would be a little bit limited there, but we apparently didn't take his offer. So
at the end of the day, everybody's scratching their heads, Jordan, going, what the hell's going on
here. Is he really going to invade Venezuela? That sounds mental. But he's definitely threatening
to. So what do you think? Do you think he's going to do it or no? Yeah, I absolutely think he's
going to do it because it's not about stopping drugs. It's not about protecting the homeland.
It's about oil. And I think you can see, I mean, they're openly admitting it. Today we had yet
another example. This might be something worth covering tomorrow night. It happened shortly
before the show, but Representative Maria Salazar of Florida was on CNN today openly celebrating
a potential $1 trillion windfall for U.S. oil companies if Maduro is ousted. I mean, they're not
even trying to pretend like it's about some abstract concept or notion of freedom or liberty
like they did in the Middle East in the 2000s. The war on terror, of course, it was a front for
oil companies and other resources. Here, they've wanted Venezuela's oil for years, Jank,
and now they're openly saying it on air as the president holds cabinet meetings or meetings
in the Oval Office about declaring war with Venezuela. I just, I don't see any circumstance
where we don't illegally go to war with Venezuela and conduct a regime change operation
Aus Maduro. All these big oil has wanted this for years and Trump is finally going to give it to him.
Yeah, well, there's two things about that. One is like if they do it, it'll be an epic disaster.
I mean, guerrilla warfare in the streets of Caracas, what if we lost our minds? Why the gods green earth?
What do we do that? Okay, number two is, wait, we're going to send an American troops.
We always assume no one's ever going to get killed, right? We're mighty America. Our technology is
invincible and we'll just drone them to death etc but they told us Iraq would be easy
and we would be greeted as liberators and thousands of American boys died there so the minute
one American troop dies in Venezuela that is a person an American citizen who died on behalf
of Exxon Mobil and that's insane and the American people should not tolerate that they're
openly broadcasting. We are not doing this for Americans. We don't give a
goddamn about you guys. We're doing it for the oil companies and the
trillion dollars they're gonna make. And by the way, some very small
percentage they're gonna kick back in legalized bribes to all those people in
Congress and to the president, etc. One of the biggest donors for Trump in this
election cycle was the oil companies. But the second thing, so if it was just
that Jordan, easy-peasy. I get it. And
And we, I've been through this movie before.
We've been on air so long, we cover the Iraq war before it began.
We were one of the only two shows nationally that said, don't go in.
It's a trap.
And Admiral Akbar wouldn't listen.
So now here we are again.
So that's the easy part.
The hard part is, but Grinnell, like Richard Grinnell, top Trump guy,
who went to negotiate with Maduro, came back and said,
Maduro will give us the oil.
So there's apparently a second thing.
Well, I don't know what the second motivation is, and I, and I see some people now in Washington
is scratching their heads going, wait, we all got our bribes, Maduro said he's going to give
us the oil, not us, of course, but our beloved corporate donors.
So where's the question?
And I think there's a second question here.
It might be just Marco Rubio, like, and it might be people discovering, is this because
Marco Rubio wants to topple Venezuela so it can topple Cuba so we can go brag to his parents?
Oh, mommy and daddy, I got the big bad communists.
We're going to get our casinos back.
Is that what this is about?
I don't get it.
Or maybe the original story about how Grinnell got them to give the oil rights or get that concession was not correct.
But one of those two things.
Yeah, I think the most likely scenario is that that's not true.
The Grinnell claim is not true.
And they also don't want to have to worry about increased tensions,
later down the line and maybe Maduro changing his mind, just for them, they've wanted him out.
You know, they wanted Chavez out. They didn't get that. They've tried to prop up people in elections
before it was unsuccessful. I think they just want to get rid of this, like the extension of
this Bolivarian revolution in Venezuela, oust Maduro, put in their own figure who will be more
amenable to U.S. interests and ultimately U.S. oil companies, but we definitely have to take a
break. Yeah, hold on. I got one last prediction here. If we actually go to war with Venezuela,
not if Maduro steps aside or we get some sort of concession, right? But we actually start
launching bombs and we put guys on the ground in Venezuela, then that's the easiest prediction
I'll ever make. It'll end Trump. It'll be in such a political disaster.
that he won't be able to recover from it because that's the most outrageous mental war
that I've ever seen completely and utterly unnecessary done 100% because of corruption to help
his donors and once American soldiers start dying people will be absolutely livid and including
his own base they'll be more furious than he has any idea like it's not just about Trump
Washington won't know what hit him if they actually start this war with Venezuela.
Because everyone knows it's totally based on lies and very thin lies about drugs.
And fentanyl, there's no fentanyl coming from Venezuela.
There's barely any cocaine coming from Venezuela.
Cocaine is Colombia, fentanyl is Mexico and China.
This is all garbage.
And everybody knows it.
And if you murder more American troops on behalf of your corporate donors, there's going to be political hell to pay.
And I guarantee it.
All right.
Now let's take a break.
describes FBI director Cash Patel as, quote, in over his head and the FBI as paralyzed by fear and with low morale.
We have more, including a very embarrassing anecdote about Patel's behavior the day after Charlie Kirk died.
But, Jake, first, you're two cents here.
Yeah, I think that this story is important because of the lesson that it tells.
because when you start political witch hunts, what are the consequences that flow from that?
Well, we're going to find that out in this story.
And you're going to find out that it could be a massive problem for the American people
because it grinds law enforcement to a halt.
Let's find out why.
Now, the leak of an assessment report, which was prepared for the House and Senate Judiciary Committees,
gives us a clearer picture of the mess that Patel has created within the ethnic.
Again, this pulls from the personal accounts of 24 people within the Bureau, and they accused Patel of lacking the experience to lead the FBI, and that managers will not take initiative without explicit direction for fear of being fired.
Patel's first six months have produced a troubling picture of an organization described by insiders as a rudderless ship with two sources, independently characterizing the director as being in over his head.
One stated, Patel lacks the requisite knowledge or deep understanding of all the FBI's unique and complex investigative and intelligence programs.
Now, concern began to grow within the Bureau after his nomination due to his comments about the deep states' attacks on Trump during his first term and over January 6th.
Both Patel and his deputy director Dan Bongino are very active on social media, which also creates a headache for staff.
FBI employees reported hearing more about the Bureau's mission from leadership's social media posts.
then through official internal channels.
Now Patel is also described as being paranoid and distrustful.
In one incident, Patel became upset after learning that FBI personnel at Quantico
had discussed his request to be issued an FBI firearm.
When details leaked, he ordered polygraph examinations to everyone involved to identify who had criticized him.
One respected FBI leader in the assessment called the order needlessly punitive.
But perhaps the funniest portion about Patel's behavior was the day after Charlie Kirk died.
On 11 September, the day after conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination, Patel arrived in Provo, Utah,
but refused to leave the FBI jet without an appropriate raid jacket, a described highly respected
source in the report, explained that agents working the Kirk investigation had to stop their work
to find a medium-sized jacket for Patel. When a female agent's jacket was delivered,
Patel complained about missing Velcro patches on the sleeves and refused to disembark
until SWAT team members removed patches from their own uniforms and attached them to the borrowed jacket.
The same source confirmed media reports that Patel yelled at the special agent in charge and directed an expletive laden tirade over perceived blunders in the case.
Now that part is confusing. If you remember the reports about Patel's behavior in those hours and days after Charlie Kirk's death.
He was widely criticized for posting unverified updates to his Twitter account while having a nice dinner rouse on the Upper East Side in New York the day and the evening that Charlie Kirk died.
Cenk, what do you think?
I think it's a confusing story. And I'll tell you why. So look, if we're just doing a story about how Cash Patel's a clown, okay, that's easy enough and that's evident enough, right? And at this point, a lot of the right we think he's a clown. Most of the voters think that, right? And by the way, one of the agents, a lot of the agents also talk smack about Dan Bongino, who's deputy there. And one of them called him something of a clown. That's a direct quote. Okay. So they have no respect for Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.
Okay, so then where's the confusion?
Well, so number one, a lot of the people who are cited in this report are actually right-wingers.
So remember, these are former and current FBI officials, okay?
And so they say, well, they liked how he went after DEI and how they helped to close the border and sent in tougher prosecutors by their estimation.
and some of them even said in the report, complained that Cash Patel has not gone after
political enemies enough. They're like, we should have gone deeper and harder at the people
who politicized the FBI during the Biden administration. I don't think anybody politicized
it during the Biden administration. Those are Trump voters. And is the FBI filled with
Trump voters? Yes, right? Is that a bad thing? No, it's normal. They vote for Trump,
They vote for Clinton.
They vote for Biden.
That's their business, not our business, okay?
So number one, it's important to know these are not like some disgruntled liberals that are taking
pot shots like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.
But number two, that's partly why I'm kind of surprised by it.
It might be a very, very simple explanation, which is, yeah, we want him to be right wing,
but we don't want him to be a right wing clown, right?
We don't want him to be worried about which Velcro patch he's going to put on his FBI jacket,
et cetera, et cetera, and do the hard work of the FBI while being right wing.
Sure, that's the most likely.
Then I'm gonna come back to that in a second.
And then I saw this part of it in The Guardian and drew my attention.
It was also a little bit perplexed by it.
They said, quote, the report also notes concerns from countries closely partnered with the United States.
Sourcing the report indicated that law enforcement and intelligence agencies from allied countries fear the Trump administration, quote, may cause long-term damage to international cooperation.
Huh, that's weird.
So the Japanese or the Canadians or the Mexicans are complaining that Cash Patel is such a clown that they won't work with us anymore?
And that doesn't seem likely, but maybe, okay, but to me, so okay, you've got the
interesting part of the story where it's the interesting sources that are attacking
Cash Patel and Don Bonjino in a way that I wouldn't expect. And number two, and maybe
that just all it does is it gives it more credibility. And maybe that's a simple explanation
there. The second part of it is the most important part, which is when you do political witch
hunts, it freezes everyone in their tracks because now the most important part of the story
is all the agents going, well, we don't know what to do. Because if we take any wrong step,
he's going to fire us. Oh, you pursued a case. It was about now fill in details. They didn't
say this part. Oh, it was about white collar criminals and they were investigating fraud on
Wall Street. Oh, those guys donated Donald Trump. You're fired, right? I don't know. By the way,
Trump just pardoned one of the worst drug traffickers in history, just like a couple of
days ago. So if you go after drug criminals, are you going to get in trouble and be fired
at the FBI? I don't know. If you go after this guy and he's guilty, but he was a Republican
or he was an ally of Trump, or you did it, but you did it the wrong. I mean, they're firing
everybody for so many insane ludicrous reasons that all the agents are just apparently not all of them,
But a lot of them are sitting there going, I'm not going to do anything until I am specifically told by Cash Patel to do it.
Because if I go and do law enforcement, and it turns out it's against Trump's interest, I'm going to get fired.
So I'm not going to do anything.
That's a huge problem.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, I think, reflective of, we've seen now over the past couple weeks, we've talked about different U.S. attorneys or different heads of age.
that are just embarrassing.
It's a national disgrace of the air.
They are in these positions, the way Pam Bondi has handled things like the Epstein files,
the way that Nikki Haley has used her position for just like, you know,
trips, the way Cash Patel uses his jet to fly to see his girlfriend to provide SWAT team
protection.
All of these people are there because they love Trump and they support Trump and they are
loyal to him. And now we're not even a full year into this. And this is what it looks like.
It's only going to get worse if they can withstand another negative news cycle. I mean, we saw
last week there were rumors that they were thinking of ousting Patel. Caroline Levitt said this is
fake news. They were actually meeting in the White House at the same time. Here's a picture of
them smiling. But I don't know. It really looks like Patel could be out. This is just another
embarrassing story for Patel and the FBI. And if the discontent is from within the bureau,
morale is that low. It's a rudderless ship. He's in over his head. Seems like just cause.
And then Trump gets another loyalist to replace him in Dan Bonjino.
Yeah. And just to remind you of how unqualified all these guys are,
cash petal has almost no experience that's related. That's why he doesn't know what he's doing
the investigations. He doesn't know what he should do first, what he should do as a follow-up.
He doesn't know that you're supposed to verify before you start blabbing on social media about whether you got the guy or not.
And so remember his main qualification was that he wrote a children's book about a plot against Donald Trump and how mean all those people against President Trump were.
And all their children should know President Trump's the king.
It was a plot against the king.
So that's the clown that they got to run the FBI.
So the least surprising part of the story is everybody in the FBI building screaming to anyone who'll listen,
he's a clown! Well, you're bringing circus in the town. Not surprising that the clowns come in next.
Well, here we got a guy on Thanksgiving where we spent time with our families.
We ate. We played Yotsie. We cheered for football or whatever.
This guy is apparently in a room ranting about everything else.
This is not normal behavior. It is not healthy.
And presidents throughout time have released a couple things.
They've released their tax returns, not Donald Trump.
And they've released their medical records, not Donald Trump.
And look, the MRI is,
one thing. But I think what's most concerning about this is, as your viewers out there are listening,
has anyone in the history of the world ever have an MRI assigned to them and have no idea
what it was for?
Over the Thanksgiving weekend, President Donald Trump traded barbs with Minnesota Governor Tim
Walls, leading to slurs being thrown and MRI results potentially coming out.
Now, Jank, your two cents before we get into the details.
Yeah, look, I'm less offended by words than other people are.
So I get the our word was thrown around here and it's going to have political consequences.
But what I'm more worried about is the unhinged post from Trump altogether.
We're gonna read you big sections of it because it's really crazy.
And we really shouldn't have a crazy president.
So, but you can judge for yourself because we're gonna read the sections for you
and look at it together and we'll tell you about the political fallout
for all sides.
Yeah. Now this all started on Thanksgiving with a lengthy post from the president on truth social.
He wrote a very happy Thanksgiving salutation to all of our great American citizens and patriots
who have been so nice in allowing our country to be divided, disrupted, carved up,
murdered, beaten, mugged, and laughed at along with certain other foolish countries throughout
the world for being, quote, politically correct, and just plain stupid when it comes to immigration.
The official United States foreign population stands at 53 million people, census, most of which
are on welfare from failed nations or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, or drug cartels.
They and their children are supported through massive payments from patriotic American citizens
who because of their beautiful hearts do not want to openly complain or cause trouble in any way, shape, or form.
They put up with what has happened to our country, but it's eating them alive to do so.
As an example, hundreds of thousands of refugees from Somalia are completely taking over the once great state of Minnesota.
Somalian gangs are roving the streets looking for prey as our wonderful people stay locked in
apartments and houses hoping against hope that they will be left alone. The seriously blank
governor of Minnesota, Tim Walls, does nothing, either through fear, incompetence, or both.
Now, while Minnesota does have the largest Somali population in the U.S., they only make up
1.1% of the state's population, according to the U.S. census. Many people did have a
have a problem with the president's brazen use of the R-word, which is seen by many as an insensitive
slur, which we'll get to a bit later. But for now, we'll focus on Walls' response, who simply replied
with, release the MRI results. This being in reference to the mysterious MRI, Trump underwent
during a visit to Walter Reed Medical Center in October. In a summary of Trump's last known
physical exam performed on October 10th, White House physician Dr. Sean Barbella revealed that the 79-year-old
president underwent lab testing, advanced imaging, and preventative health assessments as part of his
ongoing health maintenance plan. Trump seemingly revealed the type of imaging that was performed
while speaking to reporters on Air Force One on October 27th. I got an MRI, he said at the time,
it was perfect. But the White House has not offered more information about how comprehensive
the body scans were, nor clarified why the tests were run out of sync with the president's
annual physical exam in April. Now, in response to Wall's demand, Trump seemingly said he will
release the results of his MRI, despite still not knowing what it was for. Take a look.
Emorys are very
And Governor Walts, I see to release the MRI records.
Will you tell us when it was for?
Governor Wolves, you mean the incompetent governor walls?
So if they want to release it, it's okay with me to release it.
It's perfect.
What was the wrong?
It's like my phone call where I got impeached.
It's absolutely perfect.
So if you want to hear about it or if you want to release it,
do you want to have it released News Nation?
Failing, Failing News Nation.
Oh, so does not fail.
News Nation is doing a lousy, by the way.
But if you want to hear it,
I want to have it released. I'll release it.
Please. Can you ask what they were looking at?
For what releasing?
No, no, no. What part of your body was the MRI looking at?
I have no idea. It was just an MRI, what part of the body?
It wasn't the brain because I took a cognitive test and I aced it. I got a perfect mark,
which you would be incapable of doing.
Okay, well, Caroline Levitt, you could say released the results, whether you believe them or not,
but said it was a normal routine checkup saying she said it was to check the state of his cardiovascular
and abdominal health which she says is normal for people of his age group. Jenk, do you believe that?
Yeah, I kind of believe them on the MRI because they're saying, oh, we're going to release it right away,
right? And he says, oh, it's perfect. Usually when there's something wrong, like you remember
I remember when he started having those splotches on his hands and he's got that vein problem.
And then they hit it like crazy.
They're like, there's nothing wrong.
What do you mean?
There's no, there's no orange makeup on our hand.
And no, our hands fine, our veins are fine.
I don't know what you're talking about, right?
That's this one, they're like, MRI, we're handing out guzzles of copies tomorrow.
So I suspect that that one's okay, based on the context clues.
Again, we'll come back to the R word.
Other people are more offended than I am about that.
But to me, the truly offensive stuff is what Jordan read to you in his true social post.
I just want to break it down a little bit more, right?
So okay, Somalis, they're all looking to prey on you in the streets.
I mean, come on guys, how is this not demagoguing, right?
And so there are hundreds of thousands of them.
There's approximately 60,000 in Minnesota.
So just making up numbers, as he always does, right?
And they're swarming all over Minnesota, 1.1% of the population.
He says the immigrants are here and they've carved up, murder, beaten, mugged the country
and laughed at us, okay.
So this is demagoguing 101.
The immigrants, your real problem is not my donors who have rigged all the rules to rob you
blind over the last 50 years.
So your wages never go up, but your drug prices and every other price goes up, astronaut.
and destroys your lifestyle, don't look at them.
A couple of people just crossed the border with no money at all, no power at all.
They're the problem, they're praying on you, they're murdering you and carving you up.
It's a classic piece of crap demagoguery that I can't stand, okay?
So you got criminals here who are undocumented, kick their ass out.
Make sure they serve justice first, maximum security, whatever it needs to be, and they kick them out.
No problem, we want to protect our own.
our own, Americans first, okay, but when you tell me that perfectly innocent people are
going roving around, praying on the, you know, natural born citizens of America.
And now we move to the 53 million Americans that are born outside this country.
Okay, first of all, shocking, because that number is true, it's only true thing he's ever said,
okay? So most of them are on welfare, preposterous, of course they're not, of course not, he made it up.
In fact, SNAP is the main way of getting quote unquote welfare, that's food stamps.
As undocumented immigrants are not allowed to be on stamp, on stamp.
And SNAP has the lowest fraud of any government program.
So there's no crazy undocumented immigrants all over welfare and taking it, et cetera.
And then you look further, there's a study that shows that natural born citizens use welfare
more than people who were born outside the country.
And by the way, people who are born outside the country are not undocumented immigrants.
That's what they want you to think.
That's the, you know, the shell game that they're playing.
I'm born outside the country.
I'm a US citizen, 100% citizen, even if Stephen Miller's wife doesn't think so, okay?
So no, you're not gonna take our citizenship away from us.
And no, I'm not gonna let you smear us with a bunch of utter garbage that's totally untrue.
Documented immigrants, people like me who came here legally, are by far commit the
least amount of crime in the country and collect the least amount of welfare.
So Donald Trump is a giant liar who's trying to get you to hate people who are US citizens
that is overwhelming majority of the $53 million for his political benefits so you don't notice
his donors, the people who fraudulently given to his meme coin and all of his other BS coins
are the ones that are actually robbing you.
They're the criminals, they're the actual problem in this country.
They're the ones who rigged the rules both when Democrats and Republicans are in charge.
They're the establishment and now Trump is among those elites.
So he's trying to get you to not notice the elites so that you could just hate your fellow
citizen instead. And that's what all this garbage is about.
And I care about the substances of that a hell of a lot more than any name he called anybody.
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Donald Trump insulting me is a badge of honor for me,
But I think we all know as both as an educator for a couple decades and as a parent, using that term is just so damaging.
You can use that word. Sure, you can use that language, but you shouldn't.
Do you stand by that claim of Collington Wall Street?
I think there's something wrong with him. Absolutely, sure.
You have a problem with it? You know what? I think there's something wrong with them.
In a lengthy truth social post, Trump made on Thanksgiving, he referred to Minnesota governor and vice presidential hopeful Tim Walls as seriously R-worded.
His choice of words was criticized heavily not only by Walls, but also by Republican State Senator Michael Bahachek from Indiana.
On Friday, he posted to Facebook, many of you have asked my position on.
on redistricting. I have been an unapologetic advocate for people with intellectual disabilities
since the birth of my second daughter. Those of you that don't know me or my family might not
know that my daughter has Down syndrome. This is not the first time. Our president has used these
insulting and derogatory references and his choices of words have consequences. I will be voting
no on redistricting. Perhaps he can use the next 10 months to convince voters that his policies
and behavior deserve a congressional majority.
The Trump administration has recently been putting more and more pressure on Republican lawmakers
in states to redraw congressional district boundaries to gain Republicans' more House seats in the midterms.
Indiana legislators are scheduled to weigh such a partisan redistricting measure later in December,
but leaders of the state's Senate have cautioned that there is not enough support in the legislative chamber
to enact a congressional redistricting plan.
Last month, Trump even tried to intimidate any Republicans who went against the redistricting
and called for primary challenges to be mounted against them.
Now, Jank, you're seeing one immediate response to this.
There will be more.
I mean, it's kind of wild to see how him using that word leads to a no vote on something
totally different, but essential to key Republican priorities and reflects this growing issue
of Trump's behavior, his outbursts, causing, you know, ripple effect in his own party.
Yeah, I think that the reason that they're doing is not because of the statements. In fact,
I think I could even prove that within this story. I think that they're speaking out against
Trump now finally because he's 24 points underwater. The worst censorship.
Richard Nixon, again, he's back to being deeply, deeply unpopular.
And even the Republicans in Congress are beginning to see that.
And they're beginning to worry about their own seats if they're seen as too close to Trump.
So look, let's, first of all, on the bad language that he used.
Republican politicians drive me crazy when they do this.
I remember there was Republican from the Midwest.
And he came out and said, oh my God, I used to be against gay marriage and, you know,
different kinds of gay rights.
But it turns out my son is gay, so now I'm in favor.
You know that other people are also human, it doesn't just happen to your son or somebody
in your family or yourself.
You could actually react with empathy, even if it's not someone in your family.
And again, this Indiana guy, he doesn't mind all the terrible things that Trump says about other
people and the rest of the message.
But you use the R word and my daughter has down syndrome.
So now it personally affects me, now I'm upset, and now I'm not going to let you do redistricting.
Not the way that I would have wished that it would go down, but I'm glad they're not doing the redistricting.
The gerrymandering is, I hate it, I can't stand it, it's an attempt of political manipulation.
And I'm glad that Trump paid some sort of price for his constant badgering of everyone in a way that is unhinged.
And I mean, to me, again, look, let's just.
Let's break down the different, you know, transgressions here.
So he criticizes Tim Walts, so what?
Tim Walts is another politician.
Calls him a bad word, some people are upset, et cetera.
Okay, but inside his message, the same message, he said, he characterized 53 million foreign born people inside the country,
the great majority of whom are legal US citizens, 100% of citizens inside the country.
This just happened to be born somewhere else.
He characterized them as like roving predators who are gonna butcher you and carve you up.
Most of them are US citizens.
And he says mentally unhinged things like, oh, other countries are taking people out of
their prisons and mental institutions and bringing them to the border and releasing them.
That's cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
Only a lunatic mind would believe that there's no evidence of that at all.
No other country has ever done that and he just says it.
There's never any proof, never even an attempt to prove it.
Just I hate foreigners, even if they're US citizens, I despise them and I'll make up the most outrageous lies about them.
And everybody's like, oh, that's totally fine, yeah, that's normal demagoguery.
Yeah, of course you hate the foreigners.
You said something about that affects my daughter.
Now I'm really mad.
Okay, good, I'm glad you're mad, but the rest of us are also here.
And if you get a sense of, from all the demagoguery that you hear nonstop about people,
who weren't born here. Oh my God, it's just a storm. Oh my God, there's 53 million people.
16% of the country is foreign born. Again, the overwhelming majority of them are citizens
who gives a damn where they were born. I knows. Some do. By the way, if you do, and you're like,
no, national blood and soil. I know, yeah, okay, but be careful about what you're saying.
Okay, but all right, we've decided that we allow citizenship here. But no, we're going to
demagogue about those people anyway who are good people, et cetera. And because it's out of control.
Is it?
Canada's rate is 22%.
Switzerland and Australia are 29% and 30% foreign born.
And that's why Switzerland is a madhouse.
You see how they can't control anything.
Canada and Australia are riddled with crime.
All right, none of those things happen.
Because it's all BS, made up junk for inside of Donald Trump's crazed mind.
If there's one person who's crazed here, it isn't Tim Walz, it's definitely Donald Trump.
I mean, I'm just really curious to see how these redistricting fights go.
I mean, I don't think this will be the one issue that causes defections.
I think it's going to be, like you said, his unpopularity, they don't really want to fall on this unprecedented hill.
Like, Texas is just a unique beast.
They're explicitly saying, we're doing this so we can get more seats.
It's going to be a lot harder in some of these other states.
I mean, Indiana is a purely red state, but some of the other ones they might try this in.
I don't know how successful they're going to be.
And this is one thing that was my concern after California, understandably did that in response to Texas.
I was just worried it was going to be a race to the bottom.
Then you see more and more states doing this mid-decade redistricting.
And it puts us even farther away from a system free of partisan gerrymandering.
And I don't know how it's going to look in the midterms, but hopefully more outbursts, more bad behavior, more on popularity, more bad polling for Trump.
Swades Republicans from jumping on.
Yeah, look, last two quick things here.
Guys, first of all, the real crime here out of all of this stuff is forget the offense that people take.
Gerrymandering.
That's where the politicians draw their maps in such insane ways.
So they pick their voters so they have no chance of losing.
So we don't get to pick our politicians.
The politicians pick the particular voters that they want.
Jerrymandering is a crime against democracy and against the American people.
We need to wipe it out from blue and red states completely and regain our government.
So join me on the program we do at 8 o'clock Eastern every day.
6 to 8 o'clock is the Young Turks Monday through Friday.
And then at 8 o'clock Eastern on YouTube and everywhere else, we're on almost every platform.
And at 8 o'clock Eastern, I do the revolution because we need to all gather together and upend this crazy system.
Because if we have gerrymandering in all the states, our votes are totally useless.
in those particular seats because they've already been jerry rigged so that this scummy politician
who drew the lines is guaranteed to win. Can't stand it. Lastly, the reason why there's a rebellion,
as I told you earlier, it's not close guys. To give you context, when Donald Trump first came
in, he was only at minus one, which is a great number for Trump. Historically, he's been,
you know, in the first term, even before the elections, in significant minus territory.
But he's doing pretty well. And remember, he won all seven swing states, he won the popular vote. So he's
surging coming in. And in under a year, he's down to minus 24. I don't think people are
understanding that that's a catastrophe politically. That's the same kind of catastrophe that
Biden was in when all the Democrats buried their head in the sand and we're like, oh, he's fine,
he's fine. I'm like, minus 24 is not fine. It's catastrophic. And that's where Trump is right
now. And that's why you're seeing some of the few, some of the early rats beginning to
abandon ship. All right, we got to go.
Jordan thank you brother we appreciate it that was great and now when we come back
so Donald Trump has pardoned one of the worst drug traffickers in human history
why on God's green earth did he do that we'll talk about that when we come back
