The Young Turks - Piece of Mitt

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

Israel strikes Gaza city of Rafah after evacuation order. Mitt Romney suggests TikTok should be banned to prevent bad PR for Israel. Congressman praises heckling of war protesters, including one who m...ade monkey gestures at a Black woman. Black Americans’ desire to vote in this year’s election is down sharply compared with four years ago, this is a potentially troublesome sign for President Biden." HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Sleep, sleep, sleep. That's what I do. The guy! All right, well, we're on Turks, Jake Hugar, Anna Kusparan with you guys, live from the Polymarket Studios here in L.A. obviously. And we got an amazing show for you today. Old schools come back tomorrow for the members.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Great time to become a member. Hit the join button. Hey, enormously important developments out of Gaza, and then Donald Trump might actually go to jail, so we'll talk about that because of developments. And then is there a Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro debate coming up on the Young Turks? I don't know. We'll discuss later in the program, we'll find out. All right, Casper's got the news. Well, we begin with some big updates in Gaza.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Let's get right to it. Hamas did just release a statement on their. official telegram channel saying that Ismail Hanea, the head of Hamas's political bureau, has made a phone call to the Qatari Prime Minister, as well as to the Egyptian Minister of Intelligence, Abbas Kamel, and quote, informed them of Hamas's agreement to their proposal regarding a ceasefire agreement. You just heard from CNN's Jeremy Diamond that Hamas has agreed to the terms of a ceasefire deal. They did so this morning. Now, the terms of
Starting point is 00:02:00 under the framework do not call for a permanent ceasefire, but rather a potential longer pause in the fighting. Just to sum it up, this ceasefire deal is not much of a deal for Hamas, but they were willing to take it. Now the latest Egyptian framework as it's being referred to, could see the release of 20 to 33 Israeli hostages over the course of many weeks. There would be a weeks long ceasefire during this
Starting point is 00:02:30 exchange of hostages and the agreement would entail Israel releasing some Palestinian prisoners. Now the pause in fighting could under this deal potentially lead to a much longer term ceasefire that could last up to a year according to the reporting from Jeremy Diamond. Now CNN reports that the news spread in Gaza of Hamas's announcement and Palestinians began and celebrating, but unfortunately it appears that that celebration might have been a little too early, a little premature, because now we're hearing that Israel is very unlikely to agree to the ceasefire deal, even though previously they had signal that they would agree to it. An Israeli official speaking on condition of anonymity said the proposal that Hamas had accepted
Starting point is 00:03:18 was a watered down version of an Egyptian offer and included elements that Israel could not accept. would appear to be a ruse intended to make Israel look like the side refusing a deal, said the Israeli official who spoke on condition of anonymity. He's lying, by the way. Okay, the only ruse here though is the fact that Israel never intended to accept that ceasefire deal. In fact, an official briefed on the peace talks, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said, however, that the offer Hamas had accepted was effectively the same as one agreed at the end of April by Israel.
Starting point is 00:03:55 But as we knew earlier, I mean, Netanyahu had made clear, ceasefire deal or not, I'm gonna invade Rafa, and that is currently what's happening as we speak. I'll get to those details in a moment, Jenk. Yeah, and so I want to clarify two really important things here. Who negotiated the deal? So on one side it was Qatar and Egypt, on the other side it was America. And so America negotiated this deal.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Israel said that they were gonna sign off on it. In fact, as Anna just pointed out to you at the end of April, they said, yeah, we would definitely sign it. except that the entire time Netanyahu has been saying, whether there's a ceasefire or not, we're going to level Rafa. Well, that's the whole point of a ceasefire is that you don't level Rafa. So that's basically saying America's wasting its time. We're never going to honor a deal.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Look, the great thing about this is he could prove us wrong, like not even wrong. This is what we're telling you is this is the direction it's heading with Netanyahu saying he's going to reject it. But if he turns around and accepts it, that's amazing. And that's what I thought earlier today. I'll come back to what changed since then in a minute. But I don't want you to think that the Israel statement that it was Hamas's deal is in any way accurate. No, this was negotiated by all the parties here. Hamas was holding out.
Starting point is 00:05:13 We were saying that Hamas was wrong for holding out. So what broke the dam? There's three stages to it. In stage two, Hamas wanted a permanent ceasefire and Israel only wanted to one that lasted about 40 days, okay? And the way that they broke through that problem was they put in the words sustainable calm instead of permanent or 40 days. So what does sustainable calm mean for the second stage of the ceasefire?
Starting point is 00:05:40 No one knows. But that's, that was a diplomatic way of saying, okay, stop, we'll take the 40 days ceasefire And hopefully it'll turn into something bigger afterwards, but it's not guaranteed. So it's actually Hamas giving in to Israel's demands. Yeah, Hamas conceding to Israel knowing full well that like let's keep it real, unlikely to have a sustained calm or a sustained peace or sustained ceasefire. Fact of the matter is the fighting was going to continue, right?
Starting point is 00:06:09 After some brief pause and that's not a ceasefire. I like, I love this new era we're in where we're all pretending like, Like a pause in the fighting is a ceasefire. A ceasefire means, okay, we both parties agreed we're gonna stop the fighting, period. Not we're gonna stop the fighting for a few weeks and then we're gonna ramp up again after Israel gets what it wants. That's not a ceasefire. Yeah, so the original Israel demands throughout in all of these so called ceasefires have always been eminently unreasonable, which is we want the other side to completely surrender. And if they don't, we're going to kill them all.
Starting point is 00:06:47 It's just a matter of when. So we can stop for 30 days, we can stop for 40 days. We'll regroup, we'll refresh, we'll restock, and then we'll come back and kill you again. Well, that's not really a peace offer. Nevertheless, Hamas said yes now because the destruction of Rafa is imminent. And Israel has been killing the hostages. And so what I mean by that is, I think that Israel's been holding five and a half million hostages for a long time now. The West Bank and Gaza are all hostages under the iron thumb of Israel.
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's just a fact. And they can kill any of them at any point that they like. They often brag about it and say, what, what? We didn't kill them all, right? And so here they've been bombing Rafa both as a preload to this siege potentially and as a warning to Hamas. So in one bombing recently, they killed 18 children. And another bombing recently, they killed 10 children.
Starting point is 00:07:44 So those are killing the hostages saying, How many kids do you want us to kill before you say yes to the deal, which is a despicable way to operate. But nevertheless, Hamas said yes. So Israel is definitely lying, definitely about saying, oh, this is just Hamas on their own saying yes, nonsense. Is anyone really surprised? Like, did anyone really fool themselves into thinking that Israel was negotiating in good
Starting point is 00:08:11 faith for a ceasefire? Yeah, I did. I mean, again, well, you were wrong, and you should never trust Israel when they claimed that they're engaging in good faith on ceasefire negotiations. Look, Netanyahu has made it clear. I'm gonna invade Rafa whether there's a ceasefire agreement or not, which means he is not engaging in good faith. Someone who engages in good faith doesn't say,
Starting point is 00:08:30 oh, even if we reach a ceasefire agreement, I'm still going to engage in the fighting in Rafa. And to be sure that is currently happening as we speak. So this morning news broke that Israel had informed 100,000 Palestinians sheltering in Rafa that they must evacuate. This is an Eastern Rafa specifically, and the real question is where exactly are they supposed to go, considering the fact that major portions of the Gaza Strip have already been leveled? Here are more details on that.
Starting point is 00:08:57 They'll go to an area in the middle zone, Lauren, called Deribala, where there is literally raw sewage in the streets, or maybe to Al-Mawesi, which is a beach. Same story applies. Nowhere is safe, but as unbearable as this is, it's happening, and it's going to be horrific. There's a lot of children who have had amputations who are back living in tents. Those families will find it hard to move. But geographically, logistically, no, you still can't. A lot of families will not be able to move to the north if they'd hope to.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Kahn Eunice is impossible. That's another city bordering rougher. That is rubble, not a little bit, but street after street of rubble. So they'll be pushed into this area called Mawesi, Lauren, which is a beach area. It's sand. It has next to no sanitation or hygiene. It's getting hot right now. in Gaza, it's raining today, but it's getting hot. So they'll be intense side by side,
Starting point is 00:09:47 five or six times the population density of New York City, but all on the ground, not a high rise to be seen with no hospital care. Yeah, I mean, look, there's no break on this car. And it's been clear from the very beginning in regard to Netanyahu, his far right government and what they intend to do. In fact, you know, and by the way, that was UNICEF spokesperson and James Elder explaining what the conditions on the ground are and how there's really no place for these Palestinians to evacuate too. Remember, there is some 1.4 million displaced Palestinians currently sheltering in Rafa. It's densely populated, which makes a ground invasion and the bombings that have been occurring in Rafa, so devastating for the civilian population.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And in Tel Aviv, family members of the Israeli hostages, to Jank's point, have been protesting. And I think what you hear from the brother of one of the hostages in this next This clip gives you a sense of what Israelis on the ground in Israel are feeling in regard to how Netanyahu has handled this war and how little he has shown any real concern for the hostages themselves. Watch. Beebe, we call you to reach a ceasefire deal which secures the release of all hostages. Seasfire that secures the release of hostages. The war actually didn't end, BB, but know that the war ended. You can't lie to us. You are taking more time so you and Ben Gavir can stay in power. You were taking more time. So you will stay in power. You don't care about the 133 or 132 hostages. An operation in Rafat will cause the death of the hostages. You don't have a mandate to kill 132 citizens of Israel.
Starting point is 00:11:21 So look, I get that there are huge swaths of the population, both in the United States and in Israel, who don't care about the unnecessary deaths and slaughter of innocent Palestinian civilians. But since Israeli lives are considered more important to these Are you at all concerned about the hostages who are also going to suffer the brunt of that attack on Rafa? Yeah, so, and if they killed the hostages by accident, they'll say, oh, it was Hamas's fault. They were hiding behind the hostages, blah, blah, blah, but they can get the hostages back today, or beginning today.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And it looks like, for the moment being, that Israel is rejecting. So why did I believe that Israel would take it? Some you could say chalk it up to naivete, some for real reason. And so, you know, this is, I'm embarrassed saying it out loud. But America was putting a lot of pressure on Israel to accept a ceasefire. And as I say that outlet, I think that's a joke. We already gave them the $17 billion, plus the $3 billion had funneled to them illegally beyond Congress's back. So it's about $20 billion.
Starting point is 00:12:26 We could use that as leverage for peace. Instead, we chose to give it to them, give away all of our leverage. So we become a laughing stock for Israel, just something they trot out every once. on a while to slap around, right? Okay, but there are other real reasons why I thought Israel might take it. One is that the 40 day deal is such is terrific for Israel, because what it does is it still pens in the Palestinians into Rafah, they get all their, this is Netanyahu, even though Hamas has some hostages, which is supposed to be a little bit of breaks in the car.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Without any breaks in the car, Netanyahu, Ben-Gavir, and Smotrich could do their actual plan. Smotrich has now said, and Heretz's paper in Israel is condemned to for it, that he wants a total annihilation, a Holocaust of the Palestinians. So I don't, he's still in the cabinet. But by the way, at college campuses, they have naughty chance. That Israeli cabinet minister says, let's do a complete annihilation of the Palestinian people. And yet barely a peep out of American media anyways. But the bottom line is the ceasefire is to Israel's advantage.
Starting point is 00:13:34 way more than it is to Hamas's advantage. So that's why I thought they might take it. And number two, number three now is that they're, nevertheless, their cabinet is split. So Ben Gavir and Smotrich is saying, no, kill them. And Ben Gavir says, why are we arresting anyone? Why don't we just murder them on the spot? And Horatis has called them out on that as well.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Okay, so this is the kind of sick, genocidal freaks that are on the Israeli cabinet, full-blown terrorists. No, no question. about it meets every definition. Ben Gavir celebrates service, et cetera, you get it. But Benny Gantz is significantly in the camp of do not go into Rafa. Okay, if there's a ceasefire, take the ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Benny Gantz is the most likely opponent to Netanyahu in an election, even though he's on the Israeli cabinet, and he's in the camp of saying, maybe we listen to the Americans giving us $20 billion a year, just a smidge, just a tiny smidge, and plus finally the fourth and most important reason is, I think Gantz, and I hope there's a couple of others, are beginning to realize that if Israel does a siege of Rafa and they kill tens of thousands more civilians, that the damage is going to be catastrophic, not just to the Palestinians, which it appears no one in the Israeli cabinet cares about. 100%, right? But also catastrophic for Israel, because if they slaughter the people in Rafa, their reputation is going to be unrecoverable. And I know all the propagandists will say, no, it's all Hamas's fault and we'll trick the whole world into thinking the Palestinians who have no power or all no good, dirty, violent, savage terrorists, and we'll come out, and APAC will control Congress and I'm tired of APAC. I can explain to you clearly how APAC definitely controls the U.S. Congress through the funding, instead of like anyone else could, but they have chosen a smart strategy to buy off all of our politicians. But none of that is going to help them if the whole world despises them forever.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, APAC can't buy the whole world. Yeah. Okay, they can't change the narrative in every country. The U.S. is different. Our political system is a, I wouldn't say unique, but we literally have bribery baked into our political system. And the reason why the U.S. happens to be Israel's top ally is because of that. The international community is looking at this war completely differently.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And I mean, you even have countries that have now committed to ending all business relations and trade with Israel. One of the more recent countries that announced this was Colombia last week. And so, you know, you have South Africa, bringing a genocide case against Israel. So in terms of how the international community views Israel, I think that you're correct, Jank, in that there is irreparable harm being done to the reputation of Israel as a country on the international stage. And you can't simply see the perception of Israel through an American lens, because America really is unique in how we are unwavering in our support for Israel, regardless of what it does. Yeah, and just another important clarification.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Look, guys, there's no monoliths, there's no councils, there's no coordination. So different Israelis disagree, different Jewish people disagree. So Chuck Schumer is in the camp of Jewish Americans who are saying, oh, please don't go into Rafa. It's going to be. Because look, horrible, horrible, don't do it. Biden and Blinkin, et cetera, are in that camp. whether they're effective or not is a different question, but they genuinely are in that camp. It looks like Benny Gantz and other Israelis are in that camp.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Even if they don't care about Palestinians, they understand the concept that going into Rafah is going to make them an international pariah at infinitum, maybe irreversible, right? And that is terrible for Israel. And guys, part of the reason that they understand that is that every human rights group, every branch of the United Nations, and every reporter on the scene is saying, going into Rafa would be an unmitigated humanitarian catastrophe. Three quarters of Gaza, which is already tiny, it's just the size of Vegas. Three quarters of Gaza's already an evacuation zone.
Starting point is 00:17:42 If you go in there, Israel says they have a right to kill you. So they have a quarter of a tiny amount of area left, which by the way, apparently has landmines. Are you kidding me? Look, I want to look into it more before I go off on it. But I read in several stories that there are, that landmines might have been planted on the road for refugees. If IDF did that, that is, I mean, it doesn't get any more terroristic than that. So hold on, that's just a couple of sources. They just mentioned it in passing.
Starting point is 00:18:15 What everyone agrees to is unexploded ordinances. So Israel dropped so many bombs that a some percentage didn't go off. So as they're trying to navigate this tiny quarter of Gaza left, one, they're going to leave behind what they had left. They're going to be more prone to starvation and all the elements. And number two, there could be bombs going off both in the air and underneath them as they do this yet another ethnic cleansing trip inside of Gaza. So if Israel can't see that the world will hate them for that, they're completely blinded
Starting point is 00:18:51 Goliath. And I think that is where Netanyahu is right now. I hope to God, he, Benny Ganssen, the others put enough political pressure on him inside of Israel. And those good people that you just heard from inside Israel, that they accept a ceasefire. Which is on Israel's terms. If they don't, it is going to be horrible for everyone involved. When we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about how the U.S. is handling the perception toward Israel by attempting to censor social media. That and more coming up.
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Starting point is 00:20:08 Anna. Well, the debate over whether or not to ban TikTok rages on, and Mitt Romney decided to say the quiet parts out loud. Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature, if you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it's overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I'd note that's of real interest and the president will get the chance
Starting point is 00:20:42 to make action in that regard. Republican Senator Mitt Romney said the quiet parts out loud during a conversation with Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. Now this conversation took place at the McCain Institute's 2024 Sedona Forum in Arizona, where the two lamented the fact that social media is opening people's eyes to some of the atrocities that are being carried out by Israel's government.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And basically they admit that that's part of the reason why there's this effort to ban TikTok in the first place, to shut down access to the app and shut down access to some of the information and postings. that young people are engaging in, which does not have a favorable view in, in a lot of cases, toward Israel's military operations on Gaza. Now, first, here's Mitt Romney acting kind of
Starting point is 00:21:35 confused about the public's worsening perception of Israel. We'll get to more sound in just a minute. Why has the PR been so awful? I know that's not your area of expertise, but you have to have some thoughts on that, which is, I mean, as you said, why has Hamas disappeared in terms of public perception? An offer is on the table to have a ceasefire, and yet the world is screaming about Israel. It's like, why aren't that screaming about Hamas? Except the ceasefire, bring home the hostages. It said it's all the other way around. I've, I've, be typically the Israelis are good at PR. What's happened here? How have they, How have they and we been so ineffective at communicating the realities there and our point of view?
Starting point is 00:22:27 Now this conversation happened prior to today where Hamas actually did agree to a temporary ceasefire and conceded to a lot of the terms that Israel wanted, including the fact that the ceasefire would in fact be temporary instead of a permanent ceasefire. And Netanyahu is also, of course, promised to invade Rafa, whether there's a ceasefire agreement or not. Now, before we get to more sound, including Anthony Blinken's statements, Jank, what are your thoughts? Yeah, I thought that was so telling. So number one, he just said it. Yeah, we're shutting down TikTok because we want to help Israel with their PR. He couldn't be any more clear.
Starting point is 00:23:07 He said there's too much pro-Palestinian content on TikTok, and that's part of the reason why we all voted to ban TikTok. I mean, that's, look, guys, we all knew that. If you watch the Young Turks, we explain why that was the case in a lot of ways. But it's not just that there's other factors that are involved in TikTok. But the part I'm surprised by is him saying it in public and him saying that basically, no, all the other reasons are actually just BS. Which is a little, it was just meant to help Israel. Which is a little disastrous for those who are trying to lean into this facade in order to justify the bans of TikTok. Because remember, as Americans, we still have First Amendment rights.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And if you have politicians admitting out in the open that they want to censor certain speech because they disagree with it, well, then it's going to be easier to challenge a TikTok banning court. Remember, one of the arguments that you keep hearing over and over again from those who are proponents of banning TikTok is we need to do this in the name of national security. You know, China is collecting your personal data, you should be very concerned about that. But in reality, it's not about a private company. you or even a foreign government collecting our data. When has the government ever gave a damn
Starting point is 00:24:18 about anyone collecting our personal information or data? What they're concerned about is the fact that Americans are engaging in a certain type of speech that these politicians don't favor, and that speech is highly critical of Israel. 100%. And then he says, look, we were doing good PR on how Hamas hasn't accepted the ceasefire. Oops, they accepted it today. And then Israel was caught with their hand in the cookie jar or in the slaughter jar when they were like, oh yeah, we were just kidding. They called our bluff, Damn it, we're gonna invade Rafa no matter what. So we'll see if the Israel sticks with that line of, you know, which is what they're
Starting point is 00:24:50 seen to be saying today, but it's Hamas accepted the ceasefire earlier today, so we'll see. But you see him referencing the PR there, and then he just flat out says it again, where he's like the Israelis and us, we're normally really good at PR, and what's going wrong here? Like we normally brainwash people into our propaganda, and we seem incapable of doing proper propaganda anymore. I mean, how will the American government and this early government exists without overwhelming propaganda? And so guys, that's why they hate social media. So every negative story you've heard about social media comes down to one and only one
Starting point is 00:25:27 reason. Everything else is an excuse. In the old days when you had mainstream media, the establishment for all of their causes could just do 100% propaganda through all forms of American media. They get to dominate the narrative. And in fact, Jake, can we- And he said, you notice there, he said, we're having trouble with the narrative. And Blinken's gonna come back to that, right? I actually wanna go to that clip next because Blinken, I mean, they're both being very
Starting point is 00:25:55 candid about how they hate losing control of the narrative because of social media and the ability to speak freely on these matters, let's watch. In my time in Washington, which is a little bit over 30 years, the single big change has been in the information environment. And when I started out in the early 1990s, everyone did the same thing. You woke up in the morning, you opened the door of your apartment, your house, you picked up a hard copy of the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal. And then if you had a television in your office, you turned it on at 6.30 or 7 o'clock and
Starting point is 00:26:32 watch the national network news. Now, of course, we are on an intravenous feed of information with new employees. pulses, inputs every millisecond. And, of course, the way this is played on on social media has dominated the narrative. And you have a social media ecosystem environment in which context, history, facts get lost, and the emotion, the impact of images dominates. And we can't discount that. But I think it also has a very, very, very challenging effect on the narrative.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Oh, historical context. Do you mean the historical context that people like Blinken consistently leave out and pretend like the war literally began out of nowhere on October 7th? Is that the context that he's referring to? Yeah, so there's two super telling phrases that he used. He said that they're quote, information environment has changed since the 1990s. And guys, that's exactly what I've been telling you, which is the mainstream media had a 100% lock on the narrative. And now social media has broken that monopoly. That's why I've always been on social media side.
Starting point is 00:27:58 You know, they always smear, oh, fake news is coming from the social media. But isn't what he said. Oh, social media is missing historical contexts and facts. And but then right afterwards, he said, you know, they're getting influenced by emotion and pictures. He didn't mention video, but also video. In other words, the actual facts. Pictures and videos are actual facts of what happened. And people have an emotional reaction when they see the truth and when they see reality.
Starting point is 00:28:26 They're seeing baby's body parts being picked out of the rubble. That's an actual fact, right? The occupation is the historical context for this intense. entire conflict. But before Blinken, Romney, Biden, Netanyahu were able to control the media completely, and also the pharmaceutical companies, the bankers, etc. And they were able to just feed you the narrative, which is the second thing that he mentioned near the end. He said, social media has had a challenging effect on the narrative. I mean, it's very difficult for the State Department to leak certain scoops to everyone.
Starting point is 00:29:07 one in social media, right? Like, I mean, this is how the press worked for so long, where, you know, he mentioned the New York Times as one of the prime examples. Well, what happened with the New York Times and the lead up to the preemptive war in Iraq? You have members of the intelligence community literally feeding lines to reporters who worked as stenographers and helped, you know, manufacture consent for that preemptive war. 100%. Totally guilty.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And the New York Times claim that they learned for those lessons, they learn nothing at all. and they were doing the same things until social media came along. And you know what social media has been doing to the New York Times and other places? They've been embarrassing them. So they've been saying, hey, wait a minute, you claim to be the paper of record. Here's something you said. It doesn't make any sense at all. It doesn't comport with the reality.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And then all of a sudden there's a bunch of young reporters at the New York Times who are going, well, that's empirically true. So are we all just going to admit that we're doing propaganda or are we going to correct the record? And now they've been forced to correct the record enough times. Yes, they intercepted a brilliant piece about how they're still massively skewed in favor of Israel. But overall, they've done a bunch of good pieces now because social media is winning because they actually have the facts, the truth, et cetera. And it's even breaking down mainstream media propaganda. That is why Romney and Blinken are in a panic going, how do we put the genie back in the bottle so the people with all the money and the power can be in charge without anybody, the riffraff,
Starting point is 00:30:34 questioning us. Right. That's exactly right. Well, let's check in on college campuses because the protests persist and there has been some action taken by in regard to their main commencement ceremony. This morning as commencement season gets underway across the country, college campus is facing turmoil and tense protests. Columbia officially canceling its university-wide graduation ceremony,
Starting point is 00:31:20 continuing with smaller scale celebrations. This morning, Columbia University announced that their main commencement ceremony has been canceled and that the majority of its school-level level graduation events have been moved off campus due to ongoing protests of Israel's
Starting point is 00:31:40 war on Gaza. Now the university said it made the changes in consultation with student leaders and would focus its resources on keeping its smaller graduation events safe, respectful, and running smoothly. Now keep in mind that the main graduation ceremony typically features a speech by the university's president, Manu Sheffik, and she is someone who is not really favored by the student body at the moment. And so I think they're partially doing this to save the humiliation that Shafik would face as students very likely would turn their backs on her or protest her speech as it happened. Now most of the
Starting point is 00:32:20 ceremonies that had been scheduled for the south lawn of the main campus where the, you know, protest encampments were taken down last week will now take place about five miles north at Columbia's Sports Complex and the University of Southern California is another one of these campuses where protests had taken place. There had been a camp, an encampment on that campus. But USC had also announced that they were canceling their main graduation ceremony as well. And that followed their decision to cancel a speech from their valedictorian who happened to be a Muslim student who they were worried might say something about Palestine.
Starting point is 00:33:00 during her speech. Yeah, you might be surprised about my reaction here. I got a couple of apologies. One, I apologize to USC for canceling the valetorian speech. I was livid about that. And I said, they're saying they might cause violence. I'm like, that's a preposterous. What are the, she's on the side of peace and the Palestinians.
Starting point is 00:33:18 So what are the Israeli family is going to attack that? Or pro Israeli family is going to attack? They're not going to do that. That's crazy. Well, it turns out I was wrong here in LA, where USC is. That side did attack peace protesters at UCLA. And New York Times is a brilliant story that shows definitively 100%. It was the pro-Israel side that viciously attacked the peace protesters.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And they're still, and their faces are on camera. And the LAPD is choosing not to arrest them. Whereas the very next morning, the victims were all arrested. So my point is, those vigilante thugs could just show up at USC and start, beating the crap out of the peace side or anyone attending the graduation ceremony that they don't agree with. And apparently they're above the law. Well, to be fair, the LAPD, Jank, LAPD is not really in the business of arresting anyone these days. So I'm not surprised. No, no, no, I hear you, except for the fact that they arrested 200 students the next day.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I mean, yeah, the ones that were assaulted. Yeah, I mean, if you support a Palestinian, that's the asterisk on LAPD will show up then. And only that. Okay, now back to Columbia. Again, similar situation, the NYPD now has arrested hundreds of anti-Israel protesters with no evidence of any anti-Semitism, harassment, assault, et cetera, because if there was, they would be charged with that and they should be charged with that. But they have zero evidence of that. That's why no one's been charged with that. They've been charged with overstaying a protest asterisk against Israel. Okay, so now if Columbia does the commencement, the pro-Israel side can attack at any moment.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Yeah, look. And the cops will be like, oh, have at it. In L.A., the cops showed up and watched the pro-Israel side beat the living crap out of the peace protesters. Let me read a few excerpts from that New York Times investigation because it was thorough. And look, for anyone who's paying close attention, you already know these details, but it is. It is nice to see a pro-Israel paper like the Times actually do this investigation and report the facts. Let's go to Graphic Nine here, where the Times writes that a New York Times examination of more than 100 videos from clashes at UCLA found that the violence had been instigated by dozens of people who are seen in videos counter-protesting the encampment. The video showed counter protesters attacking students in the pro-Palestinian encampment for several hours, including beating them with sticks, using chemical sprays, and launching fire.
Starting point is 00:35:53 As weapons, counter protesters shot fireworks toward the encampment at least six times. According to videos analyzed by the times, one of them went off inside, causing protesters to scream. Another exploded at the edge of the encampment. One was thrown in the direction of a group of protesters who were carrying an injured person out of the encampment. This is all caught on tape. We've shown you the videos on this show. And so again, for anyone watching this program regularly, none of this should be surprising, but it's likely surprising for a lot of Americans who might be completely shielded from this information, given how insanely biased the press has been toward the protesters, making them out to be the violent ones, when in reality they were met
Starting point is 00:36:36 with violence by counter protesters on campuses like UCLA. Now, there are other examples of violence and racist taunts being directed at some of these pro-Palestinian protesters, especially in Mississippi, which we'll get to in just a moment. But, Jake, any final thoughts on that time? I was actually going to go to Mississippi, too, because that one was not from pro-Israel groups or not based on religion, et cetera, it became more racial. And as you're going to see here in a second, it felt like we were back to the terrible old days of segregation, a wall of white people yelling at this one black protester.
Starting point is 00:37:13 I don't know that all those guys are like pro-Israel zealots, but they saw some. Some minorities and plenty of white folks that were in camp for peace. And their instinct was, boo, peace, let's go tear it down. But either way, you've got the anti-peace side constantly on the attack. And meanwhile, you turn on cable news, and they turn the truth on its head. And they're like, no, the peace protesters are the potentially violent ones. And the violence and the outrage from the anti, the counter protesters is almost never mentioned. students filmed taunting a black woman.
Starting point is 00:38:18 It happened Thursday during a heated exchange between a group of pro-Palestinian protesters and a much larger group of counter-protesters. According to CNN, about 30 pro-Palestinian protesters were demonstrating in a barricaded zone. When they were surrounded by an estimated 200 counter protesters, some holding American flags, several Trump flags, and some dressed in red, white, and blue. And in one video captured by student journalist Stacey Spiel, a student can be seen making what appears to be a racist gesture toward one of the black students. Let's take a look. So the woman's scary. What's that?
Starting point is 00:39:15 See ya. See ya. So the woman in the video who's being taunted is a 24-year-old. Her name is Jalen Smith, a journalism and new media graduate student. She told CNN, I said some insults back too. I curse like a sailor at them and I regret letting them get to me like that. The monkey gestures, which you might have caught in the video that we showed you, the right hand corner, the monkey gestures and people calling me fat or Lizzo didn't hurt my feelings
Starting point is 00:39:45 because I know what I am. I am so confident in my blackness, I'm so confident in my size in the way that I wear my hair and who I am. They do not bother me. If anything, I felt pity for them for how stupidly they acted. And so the student hasn't been, the student making the gestures, the disgusting monkey gestures hasn't been identified, but university officials say that at least one student's conduct or a student conduct investigation has been opened. They claim they're looking into it and the boy seen making monkey noises has also been kicked out of his fraternity, Phi Delta Theta. But rather than condemning these disgusting, like racist threatening behaviors, Republican lawmakers unfortunately are backing the students
Starting point is 00:40:34 who did the taunts. In fact, Representative Mike Collins of Georgia tweeted the following. Old Miss taking care of business, that led to a lot of backlash and he didn't really apologize for it. I can give you his statement in just a moment. But, Jank, I mean, I- Yeah, so two things about that. Mike Collins sees the video, including the guy dancing like a monkey. And he's like, add-a-boy.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And that's who these Republican politicians are. Real free speech protectors. That's my second point in that later in that video, the, counter protesters start chanting, lock them up, lock them up. So the guys who pretended to be in favor of free speech and were free speech absolutists and we hate cancel culture, we're saying, hey, those people are protesting in favor of peace, lock them up, take away their freedom, put them in prison for being in favor, just speaking in favor of peace.
Starting point is 00:41:34 So look, the right wing is very confused right now. Because huge portions of the right wing have now realized, hey, it's America second. And that is just a fact. And everybody gets it. Like, if you follow politics at all, everybody knows 320 people just voted for, to make criticism of Israel illegal in America in the House. It's not unclear. But you can criticize America all you like, okay? So portions of the right wing have peeled off now and go, enough of this nonsense.
Starting point is 00:42:08 says where we're in second place to this foreign country, right? But portions of the right wing are still like the ones in Mississippi. Oh, anyone's in favor of peace? Let's go lock them up. They don't agree with us. I don't even know what the, I forgot what the question was. I know the answer is lock them up and take away all their freedom because we're in favor of freedom. So that's what you saw on display right there. Listen, there's nothing more un-American and unpatriotic than wanting to crush protesters who are literally protesting the conduct of a foreign government. that's heavily funded through our taxpayer money.
Starting point is 00:42:41 So I'll end it there. We're gonna take a break. When we come back, we'll give you some updates on where the candidates currently stand in the latest national electoral polling. And later in the show, we'll talk about Donald Trump openly and to their faces, mocking and humiliating his potential VP picks. That and more coming up, don't miss it. Read the polls, Jack.
Starting point is 00:43:08 All right, back on T.I.T. Jankana with you guys. And these wonderful people, Jan B-N-B gifted five memberships on YouTube. Biddy Dragon gifted 20. You guys are the best. We love you for. We appreciate you. You make this show possible. Mizia just joined by hitting the join button. But get a little of this. Kevin Randall. through the join button to executive producer. And brother, Kevin, you are an executive producer. Executive producers put the show together through financing and other means. And when you guys go to the producer and executive producer level, you guys are actually the executive producers of the show. And we really appreciate you for it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Anna. All right, let's talk about the latest related to the general election. The latest Washington post Ipsos poll spells trouble for Biden. Unfortunately, this is an ongoing theme when it comes to this general election. This particular poll, though, hyper focuses on the black vote and especially black voters under the age of 30 who have really lost favor toward Biden. Now, the poll indicates that a smaller percentage of black voters plan to cast a ballot this time around compared to 2020. So not only is Biden losing support among black voters, but there's an even smaller percentage of black voters who plan to vote. in general. So the poll of more than 1,300 black adults finds that 62% of black Americans
Starting point is 00:44:46 say they're absolutely certain to vote, which is down from 74% in June of 2020. The 12% point drop outpaces the 4 point drop among Americans overall from 72% to 68%. So again, not only has Biden lost support among key voters in the Democratic Party, There's just a smaller percentage of Democratic voters who plan to vote to begin with. Now, Biden's support rises to 78% among black voters ages 40 to 64 and 88% among those 65 years and older. So there is a little bit of a generation gap here because when it comes to younger voters, that's where Biden really does run into problems, especially when it comes to black voters. So 74% of black registered voters say they will definitely or probably vote for Biden. So to be clear, the majority of black voters still support Biden.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Just 14% of black voters say they would definitely or probably support Trump. That is smaller than Trump's black support in some recent national and state polls, though it would still mark a slight improvement from his performance in 2020. And if you can recall, Trump did increase his support among black voters. in the 2020 general election. Now, why have black voters soured on Joe Biden? Well, it's because Biden hasn't delivered on some of his key promises, including the voting rights bill, which I knew was eventually going to come back and hurt Biden.
Starting point is 00:46:21 They're also unhappy with how Biden has handled the war in Gaza, and they feel that the resources that are being sent to Israel would be better used to improve the lives of Americans here in America. And many also talked about inflation, especially when it comes to the costs of groceries. Now, the Washington Post tried to find some silver linings here. I'll tell you how in just a moment. But, Jenk, where Biden has seen the biggest drop among support among black voters is those 30 years younger. That is where people are really starting to sour on Biden.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. So there's a couple of different things here. First of all, the Democrats these days are basically just going with negative campaigning. And look, I get they're not alone, Republicans have been doing that for a long, long time. But so we recently showed you a clip where they were explaining how now they're going to plant negative stories about RFK Jr. and the press, because that's the only go-to move they have. And 80% of mainstream press is just negative Trump stories. So that's the Democrat strategy.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I would propose a strategy that would get these voters back and excited, making the chance of winning much more likely. And that's actually delivering on your promises. But I know for the Democratic leadership that is unthinkable for mainstream media, they think that is so outrageous to expect politicians to deliver on their promises. Joe Biden delivered on 10 to 15% of his promises. Brother, that means you're bragging about lying 85% to 90% of the time. And they genuinely think it's outrageous.
Starting point is 00:47:56 expect them to actually do anything. So for example, that one of the bare minimums was voting rights. And they told African American community in the country, give us the two Georgia seats. So you guys remember that clearly, right? The runoff elections. The runoff elections. Give us if Ossoff and Reverend Warren, Reverend Warnock win, oh, we're definitely getting you voting rights. And then they didn't even try.
Starting point is 00:48:19 They put it in a, lamely put it in a bill. And then Manchin said, get the hell out of here. I'm not giving black people voting rights. And cinema was like, yeah, me too, okay? And they were like, right away, sir, we drop it right away. Who cares? Who cares about black people anyway? But I think that's actually the second largest issue. I think the largest issue is that for under 30-year-olds, they're getting actual information and not TV propaganda.
Starting point is 00:48:43 So since they're getting actual information, they know, wait a minute, I'm not the crazy one for thinking housing prices are higher and student debt is higher and my wages are lower. and by productivity is not being returned to me from these corporations. We live under corporate rule. I see that clear as day. It's confirmed by actual facts I'm seeing in social media. Whereas on TV, they're like, the status quo is great. Do not rebel, do not rebel. And under 30-year-olds, both white and black, and every other race are going,
Starting point is 00:49:12 oh, I get it now. You guys are liars. Yeah, in fact, I mean, you see the difference in the age groups clearly here. Let's go to Graphic 5, where the post writes that, today just about half, half of black people in their 30s approve of Biden, 51%. That is a terrible number. That is so bad. Let that sink in. And this is what happens when the party takes the votes of a specific demographic for granted. Eventually the chickens are gonna come home to roost,
Starting point is 00:49:43 and that is what you are experiencing here. Let me read the rest of that information to you. So ratings rise to 59%, which still isn't so great. Among those in their 40s, 72% among those ages 50 to 64, and 85% among black adults ages 65 and older. And I do think Jank makes a good point in regard to the media diet of these different age groups. The older you are, the more likely you are to rely on television news, cable news in order to get your information. And if you're watching MSNBC, well, you might be under the impression that Biden's doing a bang up job and everything is fine. But younger people are a little more plugged in and they have a little more of a diverse media diet and they're kind of seeing what the facade is and they're not buying it. Yeah. And so there's a little bit of nuance there. First, I want to just double down on what Anna said because the black vote in favor of Democrats used to be over 90%.
Starting point is 00:50:42 And not like in the 1960s. No, in the last several elections. I mean, Biden has taken the black vote off of a cliff. And it's not just the black vote, it's also a Latino vote. So we've been screaming on this show, please deliver for them. I'm begging you deliver for them. We're not asking for some crazy progressive agenda. There is no crazy progressive agenda anyway in terms of economic issues. But we're just asking you to do the bare minimum democratic agenda. Stop lying to them.
Starting point is 00:51:13 What do Latino voters want? Well, just read the polls. You don't have to take my word for you. You don't have to take anybody else's word for it. They want higher paying jobs. And they want health care. What do you mean? Everything's about identity politics.
Starting point is 00:51:26 We said we like brown people. You idiots, it's no, read the poll. They want jobs, better paying jobs, health care. And you're not giving it to them. Why are you not giving to them? Because your corporate donors own you. They own you completely. And guys, last thing that's so important,
Starting point is 00:51:44 this is where the nuances is. This is not Trump versus Biden. Whether you're talking about younger black voters or anyone else, they're not saying, Oh my God, I fell in love with Trump, okay? No, this is them realizing, oh, both sides are full of crap. Because why did Biden win the 2020 election? Because younger voters showed up in bigger numbers than they ever have.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Why did they show up to vote against Trump? Because they were seeing the reality of Trump. TV also agreed in that case, but social media showed you what Trump really was. And younger voters were like, I don't want that. So they went and voted against them. Now they're seeing the reality of Biden, and a lot of them are saying, well, I don't want that either. And so they're largely going to stay home. And when they do, Biden's going to have no chance of winning. All right, that does it for our first hour, but stick around because our second hour might be our finest hour.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Okay? Damn, strong words. We're going to talk a little bit about Donald Trump's fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago over the weekend, where he humiliated potential VP picks to their faces. We'll also talk about Christy Nome, just taking the L's, posting the L's, and doing so proudly. A lot of fun stuff to get to. Don't miss it. We'll be right back.

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