The Young Turks - Police Stop Alt-Right Plot

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

Police arrested an Ohio man, who identifies as alt-right, for planning an attack on a synagogue. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'd consider myself a white nationalist and I would consider myself a member of the right. That was James Patrick Reardon in Ohio and he was actually arrested over the weekend because he had put out a video where he was shooting a gun and threatening to shoot up a Jewish community center near where he lives. In the short video posted on Reardon's Instagram account on July 11th, he fires a gun and And the sounds of screams and sirens can be heard in the background. The video was captioned, police identified the Youngstown Jewish Family Community Center as local white nationalist Seamus O'Reardon.

This shooter and Seamus. Shamus, yeah. Okay, but it's fascinating, I've never seen a white nationalist racist guy so pleasant in a mugshot. So not so pleasant when he's threatening to shoot and kill everyone. But the reason I bring it up is not just because it's weird and amusing and off, right? But because I think he is actually happy to be caught. These guys are literally dying for attention. And a lot of them go through with the shooting and then I get killed.

But they're like as long as I get the attention. This guy looks like he just wanted to draw attention to himself. I'm really, really about to do the shooting. And luckily, it didn't happen and nobody was killed. But like his mugshot does tell a part of the story. Whether it's Muslim extremists, right-wing extremists, white nationalist extremists, a lot of it is about me, me, me, me, me, give me attention because I'm a loser. And I have no way of getting fame or attention to me or relevance in my life other than doing

this extreme act. And so I think the mugshot is actually a little telling. Right, well, the authority said that. he showed absolutely no remorse when he was arrested. He seems pretty proud of himself. And I just want to be clear in that he might want attention. I think that there's definitely validity to that. But at the same time, he is a white nationalist and genuinely believes some of the horrendous

things we hear from white nationalists in this country today. In fact, he was part of the hate rally that took place in Charlottesville, Virginia. And Katie Couric happened to interview him. So I'm gonna show you that video. This was a video done for National Geographic and just listen to what James Patrick Reardon had to say. I'd consider myself a white nationalist and I would consider myself a member of the alt-right. And what does that mean to you?

White nationalist, I want a homeland for white people. And I think every race should have a homeland for their own race. So do you agree that with the guy who organizes Jason Kessler that America should be 80 to 85% white? Yes. And why? I think there's a demographic decline going on not only here but in Europe and we need some place that can be a white homeland.

So again, this is another extremely young white guy who has somehow been radicalized. Later in the interview he was asked what his parents think about his actions and the fact that he was going to attend the Charlottesville hate march. And both of his parents were very much against it. But somehow he's been radicalized in this way and thinks that there's some sort of issue with the declining white population in America. By the way, authorities also found a lot of weapons in his home. Authorities found anti-Semitic and white nationalist propaganda in Reardon's house and

also seized multiple semi-automatic weapons, dozens of rounds of ammunition, a gas mask, and bulletproof armor. In the next photo, you can actually see the weapons that they took from the raid. Yeah, so first of all, someone should ask the president, is this one of the very fine people he was referring to that was on that side in Charlottesville? So the president talked about, hey, both sides are responsible for the violence, even though only one side did the violence, that was the right wing, and that they were very fine people on both sides, which ones?

And so if you remember that Charlottesville, it was the worst of the worst, even groups like Proud Boys were like, don't go. And a lot of that, that group is considered a hate group by many and has reveled in violence, including recently. And even they were like, I wouldn't go there. The Charlottesville, they chanted the Jews will not replace us. And so that connects me to the next part of this, which is that I don't think people realize how much Jewish Americans are in danger and under attack currently by the radical right wing.

And you might be wondering why, like don't they hate Muslims more? Don't, you know, and they've got a plan, and Latinos and those are the folks that are mainly in the news? No, if you go down the rabbit hole of their conspiracy theories, it always ends with the Jews. And because they can't, even in their crazy irrational minds, they can't find a way to say that Muslims are in charge of the country or that Latino immigrants are in charge of the country. So they go to, oh, it must be the Jews, they're the ones with the money and they control the media and the banks, et cetera, all of these anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. So to that point, really interesting fact that I wanted to bring up to you guys is, so hate crimes motivated by religious bias has risen by about a quarter, 24% between 2015 and 2017.

That doesn't even get to 2018 and 2019 where they got way worse, right? But of that, the group that is targeted most is Jews. And their percentage of being targeted among the different religious attacks went from 51%. It was already really high. It was already the majority of all attacks against religion, okay? Against religious people based on their religion. It is now at 58%. So it's not Muslims, it's not Christians, it's not Buddhists, it's 58% of the attacks are against Jews.

Because in all of these crazy extreme right wing propaganda, it always comes back to the Jews rule everything, so you gotta hit the Jews. So this guy, that's why they did Charlottesville. That's why in Charlottesville they didn't chant the Muslims will not replace us. They chanted the Jews will not replace us. That's why when Donald Trump equivocates on Charlottesville, I mean, other than it's being atrocious on a thousand different levels, it's as anti-Semitic an act as you could possibly do.

And yet, we're not having conversation about how outrageously anti-Semitic the president is. And these guys, of course, oftentimes encouraged by the president and other right-wing ideologies that they hear. Yeah, don't get me wrong. They hate Muslims, they hate Latinos, transgender people, we got another case coming up there. But again, this guy looking to target a synagogue, a synagogue targeted in Pittsburgh, a synagogue targeted in San Diego, a lot of people killed in those events, obviously, and constantly comes back to the synagogues.

By the way, a lot, this is not talking about much. In Charlottesville, Nazis were marching in front of a synagogue and the people inside were deathly afraid to come out. I mean, that's in the United States of America. And Donald Trump couldn't find the courage or the inclination to condemn that forcefully. So that's where we are today. And I say he's looking for attention, don't get me wrong. So was the guy who shot up the synagogue in Pittsburgh and killed 11 people.

It's just whether we caught him or didn't catch them in time and to what degree they're seeking attention. But the way that they're seeking attention is through murder. That's why he had all those weapons ready to go and thank God the cops caught him before he actually did something. And one more thing about that. That is why the Department of Homeland Security dismantling a group looking into right-wing extremists is literally deadly dangerous.

Because these guys are online like this guy putting up videos saying, hey, I'm going to shoot up a synagogue. And post after posts on from different guys saying, look, I'm looking forward to murdering people. And we don't have enough guys at Homeland Security and otherwise chasing them down. This is the low hanging fruit. I mean, they're looking like they, in New York, they were targeting mosque after mosque after mosque. They went to New Jersey to try to look for people inside mosque. And what they found was, in that case, after years of it looking into it, innocent Muslims praying.

Right? That's a giant waste of resources. And I'm not saying you don't look after Muslim extremists online, hell yes, you do, okay? But use your limited resources in a smart way that targets the people who are online going me, right here, I'm looking to murder people, right? Well then those are the guys you should target no matter what side of the political spectrum they come from. So some people might find what I'm about to say super controversial, but I now believe that

the way that we've been perceiving these stories has been naive, right? Because we think about it in the context of how we would respond to left-wingers carrying out violence. And we have condemned the very rare instances of left-wingers carrying out violence. Now, at the same time, the right-wing not only did away with the department that was focused on right-wing extremism in this country, they also continuously make excuses. for the violence, or they cover up the violence. I mean, you have to consider the fact that various law enforcement agencies throughout the country,

whether we're talking about border patrol or local police departments, have been infiltrated by white supremacists. There have been numerous reports on that. No, they don't do anything about it, Jake, not because, oh, there happens to be some sort of blind spot, they like this, they like this, they push this rhetoric on a regular basis. And then when the violence is actually committed, they don't condemn it. Yeah. You know, our own investigative reporter, Ken Kilimanstein on TYT investigates, got a document,

internal document from the FBI where they said that white right wing extremism like this one was a mid-level threat. They said black identity extremists was the highest threat there was. There's almost no shootings at all from black identity extremists. There's one massacre after another and planned massacres by white right-right-wing. being extremists. And so I, after Anna's right, after all of this, I was kind of dumbfounded by that. How could this be your job and you'd be that monumentally wrong about the threats?

Because white right wing extremists to them are not that big a threat to them, right? To the people in charge, whereas the black identity extremists in their minds, even if they exist. And by the way, I had Daryl Johnson on here, who was a person who was in charge of investigating white, right-wing extremists, a Republican in the Bush administration. And he said, yeah, they shut us down. And it was outrageous because we saw it bubbling up, and we could have done something about it. And he explained that they also target a lot of left-wing groups. Some of them, and he's a Republican, so some small fraction of them could be potentially dangerous.

But the larger fraction, he admits, or the larger portion of it, are not in all dangers, but he pointed out, but they are seen as a bigger threat to the system. Yes, exactly, exactly. And you know, just think about the double standard when it comes to the response to various groups, right? So you'll have these white supremacists and neo-Nazis chanting, the Jews will not replace us, and you'll have someone like Donald Trump equivocating, saying that there are very fine people on both sides.

But at the same time, think about the way he and others in the right wing talked about Black Lives Matter. What is the one thing that they kept referencing when it came to Black Lives Matter to paint them as a violent and dangerous group of people? That one time when a small group of individuals chanted pigs in a blanket, watch them fry. And that was it, that was it. A few people chanted that, and that was all they needed to generalize about the entire Black Lives Matter movement.

In fact, they call them terrorists. Exactly. Exactly. No, they treat both sides very differently, we already know that, and we need to stop pretending as if they're against the violence on their side. They incite it, they encourage it with their rhetoric, and then when it's actually carried out, you know, in some cases it's applauded by Trump, by saying there's very fine people, and they'll provide a cover for it, and they'll deflect, they'll deflect by saying, no, but Antifa,

at Antifa. In fact, there was a leaked House Republican memo that reporters in Florida were able to obtain. And it talked about the specific talking points that Republican lawmakers should use if they're questioned about white nationalism. Yeah. So I want to make two quick points about what Anna just said. Number one, over the weekend, Donald Trump said Antiva should be labeled an organization of terror because they had clashes with proud boys.

oath keepers, militia, and neo-Nazis in Portland. Now, Donald Trump made no tweets about the neo-Nazis or any of the extreme right-wing groups. He did not call them terrorists. He said the guys were resisting them. The anti-fascists should be called terrorists. Now, isn't that interesting? When Jews are targeted in Israel by Muslims, immediately they're called terrorists. And they should be because they go after civilians.

But here in America, when you have white-right-wing extremists targeting Jews, so I don't They only use that because it's apples to apples. They go, no, they're not terrorists. It's crazy. How could they not be terrorists? They're targeting civilians for a political ideology and one that unites them, that ideology unites them. Yeah, I know, but they're white and they're right wingers, and you're not allowed to criticize

that in this country. Well, you gotta have at least some sort of reasonable standard that applies to everyone, otherwise stop using the word terrorist. This guy who was arrested was definitely attempting to be a terrorist. So let's move on to a different part of this story that I think is important to cover. On the same weekend, a white supremacist who was threatening to shoot up a Jewish community center in Ohio was arrested. There was one other white supremacist who was arrested, this time in Connecticut.

Brandon Wagshaw is his name, and the Connecticut man had amassed an arsenal of tactical weapons and body armor, and he may have been preparing for a mass shooting. He actually left a trail of racist and anti-trans postings online. And so what I found amazing about this particular story is that he had been kind of taunting and goading the FBI on social media for months and they finally did something. He was arrested after a joint FBI local police investigation on a tip that the 22 year old was trying to import large capacity rifle magazines from out of state. During the investigation, Wagshall wrote a Facebook post.

that showed his interest in committing a mass shooting leading to a raid on his house and also his arrest, police say that they uncovered a weapons cache during the raid, including a titanium body armor and a combat helmet. And so I'm just gonna give you a few examples of the disgusting things that he posted online openly on Twitter. I support transgender's rights to be some of the first in the gas chambers. He also said, I hate, and then he used the N word. And then he showed this, he posted this strange photo of Donald Trump, you know, fighting Shinzo Abe

of Japan. I don't know what this was about, but he was a Trump supporter. And I don't think it's far fetched to know who inspired some of his ideology. So Abe is actually allies with Trump, I think it's fair to say. And they work together on the North Korea issue. So him putting trouble against Abe is just, I guess, purely racist, but are you surprised by this guy being purely racist and having no connection to logic? Small points than a large one.

Some of the avatars that they use on Twitter, I already noticed this, but you see it in this case too. Racists will use black people as their avatar or black women or attractive women, getting you to think, getting to un-initiated online to think, oh, it's a black woman saying terribly racist thing, so it must be okay, right? No, they're just using that as their avatar. None of them are black, okay? And then, of course, he made reference to cheese pizza, as in Pizza Gate.

You know, lunatics, you know, flocked together, I suppose. And we're supposed to ignore all that. No, Q&N could be true. Pizza Gate, I don't know. Look, nobody legitimate is saying that Q&O'O'N could. be true. So I don't want to exaggerate. But there are tons and tons of Q&N followers and Pizza Gate followers throughout the country.

I've often talked about how one of my neighbors has a bumper sticker like that, but we're supposed to treat them like they're normal people. No, they're lunatics. I mean, in order to believe Q&N, you have to be not just, like, you have to be beyond monumentally stupid. You have to have something mentally wrong with you to think, oh yeah, Mueller is part of a team that's going to show that Trump's actually innocent and he's going to arrest. everybody that was against Trump, but he didn't, he didn't do any of that.

Even if you believed that insane theory before, well, after he didn't do it, you still believe it, well, that's because you're a goddamn lunatic. And then so is it surprising that a guy who believes in PizzaGate in this particular case was looking to shoot people up and hated transgender people? But here comes the important point. The two biggest source of his ire were transgender people and the FBI. Let me think of who's the one person who's constantly railing against both transgender people and the FBI.

Yeah, I mean. That would be Donald Trump. Yeah, exactly. I mean, before Trump or even during the Trump administration, who rails against the FBI more than Trump does? And why? Why did Trump rail against the FBI? It was because he was being investigated.

Because he is a lifelong criminal and a lot of his followers are criminals. So of course they hate the FBI. And then ironically, they'll turn around every time a cop shoots an unarmed black men and go, oh, I support cops, Blue Lives Matter. A law enforcement coming for me, when I'm looking to murder everybody, oh, goddamn FBI, or in the case of Trump, oh, now they want to uphold the law when I've broken 18 different laws, obstruction of justice, campaign, finance violations, let alone his entire fraudulent business history.

He's like, I never work with law enforcement. I think anyone who does is a rat, okay? We should make that illegal working with law enforcement. He's literally said these things. I'm paraphrasing, but you can look it up. He says he's proud that he never worked with the FBI, nobody should. That's what Trump says. And now his followers en masse weaponry and talk about how the FBI is so bad and you should

go after them and transgender people and Latinos and Muslims and Jews, they're all so terrible and somebody should do with something about it, but don't worry, I got the weapons. Gee, I wonder who encouraged them. This is not a legitimate debate. It's obviously Trump. Anyone making it a debate is just doing political correctness. Well, is it Trump or is it Bernie Sanders who's totally in favor of peace and in favor of every single one of those groups? Let's have a total nonsense debate about things that shouldn't be debated.

Is the sky blue or is it yellow? I don't know. Let's have a debate. Why? Because we're cable news. Because it's easy. It's lazy, right? I mean, that is, it doesn't take much work.

It doesn't take much production values. It allows you to, you know, make the case that you are an objective news organization, when in reality they're rehashing the same nonsense debate that doesn't need to be relitigated. We know, we know where the racists are, we know how they're inciting violence, we know what, you know, the ramifications of that is. I think what's way more important is for them to do their jobs and actually, you know, put that question to rest, because we already know the answer, and focus on which. What needs to be done to save the country from all the violence that we're experiencing

right now? Yeah. In this case, the Connecticut guy, of course, it didn't leave you to guess, he's a huge fan of Donald Trump on social media. So there was absolutely no question about it. And look, the debates aren't just because they want to be, pretend to be objective reporters. It's not objective to have a debate about this, it's neutral. And being a neutral reporter means you're a terrible reporter.

That means you don't care about the facts, you don't care about being objective, you just want to be neutral to both political sides, why? One of the reasons is access, of course. Another reason is, well, I don't want to offend any of my Republican viewers, so I'll lie on their behalf and pretend that it's neutral and even, and we can't quite tell if Donald Trump is encouraging people to do violence. I mean, look, the first person who told me about this and she was so right was Chelsea Manning talking about stochastic terrorism. What Trump has done and what the right wing has done is they've turned their followers into ticking time bombs. All of them? Hell no, of course not. Look, about 35 to 40% of the country believes in Trump,

they're not all ticking time bombs, they're not all extremists. But some portion of the right wing are extremists, and Trump has encouraged and encouraged and encouraged them. Oh, you're right to hate the transgender, you're right to hate the Muslims, and the Jews are always looking to renegotiate, and they're always running things and et cetera, et cetera. And the list goes on, and I can show you video clip. for each of these instances from Donald Trump. So it's not a legitimate debate. The only reason that the mainstream media debates it is because they do political correctness

because, God forbid, they should offend Republicans. And so they cover up the truth and the reality, which is that they're, and the reality is scary. It's not one or two guys. There are ticking time bombs all across this country, all over the country. They have a mass weaponry. They go online and talking about how they want to hurt people. people in these different groups.

And last thing is, I wanna give a shout out to law enforcement. You know, when we have the terrible training and too many people get shot by law enforcement in this country, we criticize them. But we are also a rare show that actually cares about the facts and give credit where credit is due, and we're not just one side in either direction. And here, the cops and law enforcement overall did a great job in catching two right-wing extremists before they actually killed anyone. So great credit to them for finding them and stopping them before someone got hurt.

Right, we got to take a break. And since we're speaking about the right wing covering for this right wing extremism, extremism, we're going to discuss Fox News and how they purposely edited a video that took place in Portland to make it appear as though Antifa were aggressors in an assault. It's unbelievable. Come right back. about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic, or UNFTR. As a Young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations

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All right, let's get to the rest of the news. They're not counter-protesters, okay? You've been in the media a long time. Other outlets do this. It's called gaslighting. Tell a lie, tell a lie confidently, and isolate people from the truth. And you can get people to believe anything. Fox and Friends decided to gaslit Americans, or gaslight Americans, I should say, during their coverage of Antifa and Proud Boys clashing this past weekend in Portland.

Now, let me be clear that, relatively speaking, these protests were not as violent as previous protests. However, there were a few instances of violence. Luckily, no one seems to have gotten hurt or killed. But there was video that was edited, I believe, intentionally to make it appear as though Antifa were the aggressors in one instance of violence during the weekend. So let me go ahead and show you that video, and then I'll fill in the blanks. We talked about on Friday there were going to be protests in Portland, and that happened over the weekend. The mayor of Portland said it was the worst case scenario has been avoided because no one died. That's at least Andy No, I was watching an interview with him.

He said that's how the mayor decides that it's peaceful because there weren't any deaths. However, look at this. Look at this video. There were six people that had injuries. There was concrete that was thrown. Apparently there were metal and wooden poles that were confiscated by police, bear spray and shields were confiscated. What do you think? Well, let me get this straight.

Your standard for success is, hey, well, nobody died. I mean, is that for real? But what did you make of the coverage regarding Antifa versus the right-win demonstrators? They're not counter-protesters, okay? You've been in the media a long time. Other outlets do this. It's called gaslighting. Tell a lie, tell a lie confidently, and isolate people from the truth.

And you can get people to believe anything. Antifa are not counter-protesters. It is an anti-first amendment. That's what it stands for. They tell you it stands for anti-fascists. It really is anti-first amendment. They are an anti-first amendment, ultra-vite. violent terror group that wants to silence people's free speech.

So let me be clear about something. That video was intentionally edited to make it appear as though Antifa were the aggressors. That was not the case if you look at the full video which we're about to show you. In fact, there have been widely circulated claims, including those made by reporters at the scene, that those riding in the shuttle bus were proud boys. It appears that they're actually members of the American Guard, a group the Anti-Defamation League labels a white supremacist organization. So I just want to be clear about the parties involved. It wasn't the proud boys, it was the American Guard, but they're also a white nationalist

organization. They're the ones in the bus. But who started this scuffle or this violent attack? It was actually the individuals in the bus, and you're about to see that in the next video. Take a look. out. He's got a hammer. Hey, no hammer.

Oh, shit. Sorry, by language, he threw a hammer. So you keep seeing this video of members of Antifa, like using a hammer, right? And you think if you look at the edited video that the hammer belonged to them, they're the ones who used it. But if you watch the full video, which we just showed you, the hammer was from an individual in the bus, he was using it, and then he threw it. At that point, someone from Antifa grabbed the hammer and then threw it back. Yeah, I wonder if they brought the hammer because they thought they were Thor. Because, you know, these white nationalists are incredibly dangerous.

They're also incredibly stupid. Like, oh, yeah, let's bring a hammer to be really cool. Anyway, so proud boys would claim that they're not white nationalists. So that's why part of the reason we're making the distinction. Also, because it's important to get the story right, it's not them. And so I loved, I loved. the projection that Bongo Bongo or whatever his name is makes, okay? He's like, oh yeah, you know, it's gaslighting when you tell a lie on purpose, and that's

what a lot of the other stations do. Now let's show the fake video pretending that Antifa brought the hammer, okay, and that they were the violent ones. And by the way, don't tell people that the other side is filled with white nationalists and neo-Nazis. Neonazis were also on the right-wing side of that parade. Donald Trump, tweeting throughout the weekend, the Antifa, the anti-fascists should be called an organization of terror, right?

How about the neo-Nazis? No, they're fine, okay? No mention of them at all from Donald Trump. Fox News, I can't believe the anti-fascists. How about the fascists? Oh, no, no, they're fine, they're okay. Poor, poor fascists, they were set upon by these guys who are anti-fascists. Why didn't they just let the fascists run the city?

Yeah, oh, oops. So, while Fox News is airing this. edited video that doesn't give you the full context of what went down. I'm also incredibly curious whether Fox did any coverage of those protesters who were nearly run over and killed by a prison guard in Rhode Island who tried to run over them. Did they do any coverage of that? Well, actually, they did, and they blamed it on the protesters. That was on Fox business.

Lou Dobbs claimed that the protesters who were sitting on the ground when the truck started to attempt to run them over were the aggressors, that they're the ones who committed assault. It was, he literally said that hitting someone's car is a form of assault. Yeah. Right, okay. Anyway, so. So can I just say, look, my long held position on Antifa has been one of concern, okay?

So I'm worried that sometimes, you know, the milk shaking, I don't like that stuff, okay? It allows the right wing to equate massacres that the right wing does, the right wing groups do with throwing milkshakes. And I don't agree with what they did to Andy No, and the list goes up, right? By the way, they used that edited video from Andy Noe. So that's one other thing that you should keep in mind. It doesn't justify hitting Andy No, but he loves doing edited videos, he's a piece of crap, and there's no need to make him a martyr by hitting him, just point out what

what a piece of crap he is. Okay, anyway, but I do have to say, as these fascists, you know, want to, you know, basically take control of the streets and as they are encouraged by the current leader of the country, and as they do mass shooting after mass shooting, it is important and good to have some young folks on the left going, not on our watch. So we're drawn a line and you want to protest? I hope that the line is, if you want to protest, have Adahus, the free country. You want to do anything violent, you want to bring a hammer?

Okay, no, not on our watch, okay, so. So you're right, I mean, there are, I have mixed feelings about Antifa, because whenever they use violence, the left loses its moral high ground, even though the level of violence is not the equivalent of what we've seen on the right wing, but why give them an argument that they can use against the left, don't carry out violence. However, there have been cases, many cases where Antifa has used the right strategy. And that certainly happened over the weekend because they severely outnumbered, or I should say significantly outnumbered the proud boys protesters, right?

So showing up in solidarity, showing up in large numbers, and showing that hate will not stand in Portland, I think is important. But don't be the instigators of violence, don't use violence. And I get it, it's hard. I remember when we were in Miami, Florida for the debates. We had nonviolence training because we knew there were going to be agitators there. We knew there were going to be people who were going to try to get under our skin. And you guys know me, okay?

I know me. I know that if I get provoked, things will happen. But there was a lot of power in restraint. And there was a lot of power in allowing these individuals to look like complete and utter lunatics while we were doing our thing. Yeah, look, we love to fight back at the Young Turks. Nobody mistakes that. But we do it rhetorically and politically, and I'm gonna get to the best part in a sec.

But if you get dragged in the mud with them physically, then the media and the rest of the country goes, oh, both sides are crazy, right? Whereas if they're just screaming like spoiled children slash lunatics that they are, they just look like weirdos, whereas you're doing a legitimate political movement. So be smart about it, both for moral reasons, but also strategic reasons, which gets to the most important point. Look, so those guys in the streets in Charlottesville, Portland, et cetera, the right wing, there are some import, and I like this. Some people are standing their ground and saying, look, we're not going to let you cross a line of physicality and violence. But the more important thing that the right wing did and the fascist did was they captured the government in the name of Donald Trump.

So Donald Trump came in and won for the fascist. That's why when they chanted in Charlottesville, the Jews will not replace us. Trump said there was very fine people on that side. That's the fascist winning. And I can go on and on about his attacks, whole scale on Muslims, Latinos, gay people, and the list goes on and on and on. That is the fascist winning and capturing the government. Well, we can do likewise.

So let's get a progressive to win the presidency and capture the government. Then the full might and force of the United States government is on our side. That is much wiser strategically, politically, and for everything that you want to accomplish. Now this video will trigger the right wing. They're like, did you hear that? The leftist want to capture the government? God damn right I do. Okay, you capture the government, why can't we?

Oh, no, no, of course, the right wing should always rule. And white nationalists like Donald Trump being president is normal. Well, unfortunately, it is normal. There's been a lot of white nationalist presidents. Well, there's no reason why there can't be a left wing for an actual progressive president. Now that happens very rarely. And what it does though, guys like FDR have been very, very strong and strong on behalf of all of the American people.

And so we can do that. It's called a democracy. You know how you capture a government? You vote. And so get out there and act politically and kick their ass politically so that then all of a sudden, and you might say you might be a little skeptical. Hey, listen, there's a lot of issues with the cops, there's a lot of issues with the military, et cetera. But they would be working for the commander in chief, and that would mean progressives are in charge.

And that is a very scary thought for the right wing, and that's a very scary thought for the establishment. And to which I say, fantastic. Wouldn't it be amazing if someone who actually cared about the American people was in charge? Let's go make that happen. All right, so let's take a break. When we come back, we have an update on the cop who put Eric Gardner in a choke cold. And also, Gavin Newsom in California signed some lethal force legislation. What does that mean for police in California? We'll give you the details on that and more when we return.

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If you want to get the whole show and more exclusive content while supporting independent media, become a member at t-y-t.com slash join today. In the meantime, enjoy this free second. All right, back on the Young Turks. Member comments as usual, you guys do the show with us. Hammer Dan writes, the Fox business model is to quote, tell a lie confidently, as Dan Bongino ironically said on Fox News. By the way, is the Fox business model to talk about business ever?

I've never seen them talking about business on Fox business. Anyway, Randy Leap says, quoting Anna, there's a lot of power and restraint. Great quote Anna, MLK would take that to heart. And another great man once wrote, it takes courage to take a punch, not to throw a punch. I actually think I wrote it better at the time. I was like, he's not quoting himself, is he? And then for like half a second, I thought, no, no, he's not doing it. And then of course, of course, of course, so fan tattooed one of my quotes on their leg, okay.

It keeps getting worse. And I predicted that my wife would think it was unimportant and wouldn't even believe it was my quote. The first thing she said, like, you never said that. Okay, anyways. Now disagreement on Antifa, Jay Hufford in the member section says, nah man, Antifa's a cancer. As Chomsky said, it's a gift to the right. On the other hand, OJM on Twitter says, did he call Antifa ultra-violent?

I'm sorry, was it Antifa shooting up synagogues and driving to the border to terrorize people? White nationalists are the ultra-violent terrorist group here. By the way, J.R. mentioned something that I wish I had mentioned myself when we did the story. If you watch the video, a member of Antifa says the F word and then apologizes for saying the F word and says, I'm sorry, you threw a hammer, right? You can hear him say that. Like, which terrorist organization apologizes for using profanity? It's like, anyway, by the way, I think the, my correct quote was, it doesn't take courage to throw a punch, it takes courage to take a punch.

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be on the Michael Brooks show, TMBS. Please check it out. He's also going to be a guest on AgitProp with Hassan Piker. He does a great show, we do a lot of work together, and I think you would enjoy it, so check it out. All right, with that said, let's move on to other news. The police officer who put Eric Garner in a chokehold effectively leading to his death has finally been fired by the NYPD.

Now let me just remind you that this took place back in 2014, so it took five years for this cop to be fired. His name is Daniel Pantaleo and the commissioner, police commissioner, announced his firing earlier today in a press conference. I also want to note that Pantaleo will not have. have any access to his police retirement account, pension. That has been completely taken away as a result of his firing. Yeah, this is a great day in America, and of course, a lot of members of the NYPD are crying

about it. They weren't crying when Eric Garner was killed. And I remember in that scenario, Eric Garner actually wasn't even doing anything wrong. They said, well, I mean, that guy sometimes sells loose cigarettes, one cigarette at a time to avoid taxes. Well, first of all, I thought avoiding taxes was Republican 101. Second of all, on that day, he was actually being a good Samaritan. But they saw a large African-American man, and they decided, well, he must be doing something wrong. And then they decided to tackle him, then they decided to choke him, and then he died.

And the NYPD didn't shed a tear at all. But now that the guy who killed him has been fired, after going through an exhaustive process, They're like, oh my God, now we can't just kill innocent black men in the streets? How are we going to do our job? Well, if you thought that was your job, I'm super happy you can't do that anymore. Now they go to an extra level and they start pouting like little children. Like, oh my God, maybe we won't do anything at all anymore if it's going to endanger us. Well, then shut up and go do another job.

I want names. I want cops who are refusing to do their jobs. to actually, by the way, in case you're unclear, because apparently you are, a lot of the crying NYPD officers and their leaders, your job is to actually protect the citizens not to kill them. I know that comes as a big shock to you. But wait a minute, what if it endangers my hangnail or my life in any way, shape, or form? Well, God damn it, that's why we gave you a gun and a badge, and it's a hard job.

But if you don't want to do that job, go sell milkshakes, go mow lawns, go do something else. But if you're like, I don't want to do my job, if I can't just murder random innocent people in the streets, well, then don't do it. Hand in your badge, hand in your gun, and go take another goddamn job. So I questioned whether or not I wanted to show the Eric Garner video again. We've shown it so many times on the show. But, you know, just to kind of reinforce what Jank is saying here and emphasize the severity of what happened to Eric Garner, I think it is important to watch it.

This is a graphic video, if you haven't seen it before, I just want to give you that warning. With that said, take a look. I'm minding my business. Please just leave me alone. I told you the last time, please just leave me alone. Hold on. Don't touch me, please. You don't touch me.

Okay. Let's go! Let's go! Let's go! Damn, man. All right, right, stop. Stop, stop here. Your hands, buddy.

Uh-huh. Put your hand behind you can't breathe. I can't breathe. I can breathe. I can't breathe. I can breathe. Get up. I can't breathe.

I can breathe. I can't breathe. I'm very much. You're just breaking up a fight. It's all right. Look, a few, can I make a few notes? Because it's important for context. First of all, the NYPD, the police department itself had a policy against placing suspects or anyone in a chokehold.

And let me just explain what goddamn liars they are. So this, Patrick Lynch, president of the city's Petrolman Benevolent Association, keeps saying that it was a seatbelt move. A seatbelt move has to do with the shoulders. You just saw the video. If you want, go rewind. It had nothing to the shoulders. He put his arm right in front of his throat and choked him to death. And I'm not the one who came up with that opinion.

New York's chief medical examiner said the chokehold led to his death. And the chokehold is violation of policy. So now look at these bitches complaining, oh, well, I can't, now I can't choke people in the middle of the street. Yes, it's a violation of your goddamn policy. Who else gets to have a job where they're like, well, I don't want to do what I'm supposed to do. when I don't do what I'm supposed to do, people die.

Oh, boo-hoo! Oh, now I can't murder people in the streets. God damn right, you can't murder people in the streets. And if you can't do that job, shut up and get another one. Patrick Lynch is an embarrassment. He should be immediately fired. How dare you say you can't murder people in the streets when it is a violation of your job? And then you say, well, how do you do my job?

I just want to be a baby that kills innocent people in the streets. And if you're going to make me do my job, well, then I don't want to do it. Great! You're fired! Say it already! And any other cop in New York City that says, well, I know if I can't murder innocent people in the streets, I don't want to do my job, thank you for saying him. They should all be fired.

Anyone who says that should be immediately fired. Who else do you want to murder in the streets? Look, this issue is not at all complicated. He did a chokehold, you saw it with your own two eyes. The medical examiner says it was the chokehold that killed Eric Garner. And the chokehold is violation of cop. It's not violation of liberal policy, it's violation of cop policy. So you don't kill people like he just did.

And they're still crying about it. God, how weak and soft are you? And these cops, you're like, oh, we're so strong, we're so strong. Oh, we murder innocent black people in the streets. We get away with it. What part of that is strong? Can you imagine the military being like, somebody might shoot at me? Oh, I have to murder everybody in the village in case somebody shoots at me.

I don't want to have any. No, it's a tough job. If you can just murder anyone that you think is annoying you, then it's not a tough job. It's a perfect job for cowards, but that's not the job. And if you are a coward and you don't want to do that job, go get another job. And for God's sake, look, I don't care, look, I know the mayor's job is hard, and he rightfully says, and he explained to me, if I stepped into this process, it would have added three years of court proceedings that is true in New York.

And so now we wouldn't have justice today, we'd have had justice hopefully three years from now. And I understand that. But if I'm running a city and these cops keep mouthing off about how they want to murder my citizens in the street, and if they don't get to murder citizens, then they won't do their job. That's easy. You just fire them for cause.

You just told me you don't want to do the job. You're fired. Who's next? Who's next? You say it? You can't do your job without murdering innocent black people, you're fired. It's not that hard. Oh, they'll be casqueous, who gives a damn?

Are you going to actually protect the citizens or aren't you? God damn it, I'm so mad with these cops who are constantly crying and crying about, oh my God, how will I ever do my job if I can't choke people to death? When you say it was a seatbelt move, you're a goddamn liar. You know that wasn't a seatbelt move. It's right on tape, we could all see it with our eyes. So really, the reason I'm so upset is because these cops are literally saying, if I can't choke someone to death, I don't want this job.

That is literally what they're saying. Well, okay, then you're dangerous. You're not here to protect us. You're here to kill us. And we gave you the power of a badge. And we gave you the power of a gun that you could legally use. Hell no, that's the most dangerous thing on earth. Get them all out.

Fire them all. I don't mean fire all the cops. And by the way, you know, you see me, and I'm pissed today, right? Because look, Pentlio being fired is awesome. The fact that all these cops, you know here, I'll read you a quote from Lynch. He says the NYPD will remain rudderless and frozen and Commissioner O'Neill will never be able to bring it back. And even O'Neill while firing him now, so he's like, oh man, if I was a cop, I'd be pissed too. And I hated doing this.

I mean, Jesus, now we can't even murder people. What are we going to do, right? But I guess because of political pressure, et cetera. You know what political pressure is? It's called democracy. because we have decided we don't want to be murdered by you. Wow, what an outrage. But we are actually fair.

On this show, we've said a thousand times including earlier today on the show about, hey, when law enforcement does a great job, like they caught a couple of wannabe terrorists that had a cash of weapons, one in Connecticut and the other one I think in Ohio or wherever he was, right? We give them credit. I love it when law enforcement does their job. It's not too much in a democracy for the citizens. to ask the people that we have given ultimate life and death power to, to do their job

and to do it without killing the citizens. It is not at all too much to ask. There's another guy who wrote an editorial crying about like, oh my God, this is a life and death situation. What do you want the cops to do? Yes, but it's also a life and death situation for the other person involved. No, but hold on. To respond to that, it did not have to be a life or death situation.

In fact, multiple reports that I read today, including one from NBC News, argued that police approached him because he was selling untaxed cigarettes. That's not what happened. In fact, Eric Garner was there because there was a physical altercation that he was trying to break up. He had previously sold untaxed cigarettes, which is why cops decided, oh, we're going to go ahead and harass him, even though in this case, he's being a good Samaritan by trying to break up a fight on the street.

So it only became a life or death situation for Eric Garner, because the cop, decided to make it so. Does anybody think that Eric Garner, unarmed there, would have killed all the cops? You're an idiot if you think that. No, they had no threat to their lives at all, at all, and they killed him. And now we're not, I mean, Pantillo didn't suffer any criminal consequences. The prosecutor of Staten Island through the case, and he's, and then the Trump administration came in and we're like, killing unarmed black guys, that's not the bug, that's the feature,

They let him off. So all of this crying is over, oh, he got fired. Now it's not a regular part of our jobs to kill people anymore. Our lives might be in danger. Look, guys, last couple of things about this. Your job by definition, that's why we gave you the gun, is to be in dangerous situations. It's like the firemen's coming and going, you want me to go into a fire? That puts my life in danger.

Yeah, that's because you're a fireman. And firemen don't say that because they know it's part of the job. When you say to cops, hey, like in California, they shot the kid in his grandmother's backyard and an editorial out today talking about, well, he was in a shooting stance and had a phone and it was dark at night. We weren't sure, the cops weren't sure, so of course they killed him, right? That's not an of course. If I saw someone in my backyard, let alone their own backyard, holding a phone, I wouldn't

think, well, I should murder him right away just in case, right? And they say cops should be able to do that. No, they shouldn't. No, they shouldn't. And am I asking you to take a certain tiny percentage chance that something might happen? Yes, that's why you're a cop. That's why I gave you a badge and a gun. If you don't want to take that chance and you want to murder everyone you see in the streets

that you think might cause you any degree of harm at all, then you shouldn't be a cop. Then it's not a dangerous job, it's only dangerous for the citizens. And if you have that mindset all across the country, and by the way, a lot of cops don't, and a lot of cops stop me in the street and watch the Young Turks and our fans of the Young Turks because we give them credit where creditors do. But if you want to be a cop

that likes to kill people and not be held accountable, you should be fired all across the country. We've got to take a break. We'll be right back. Thanks for listening to the full episode of the Young Turks. Support our work, listen to ad-free,

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