The Young Turks - Quarrelling With Colombia

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. I need it. I need it. Let's go! The guy! All right, welcome the Young Turks, Jake Ugra, Anna Kasparian with you guys. I like that we're both back in the studio, this feels right. So we got a lot of stories coming out for you guys, some terrible things that Donald Trump

has done, some positive things that he has done. So brace for impact, honesty, incoming. Casper, take it away. Well, we begin with something he has said that I do not think is good. So let's take it away. Looking at the whole Gaza strip right now and it's a mess. It's a real mess. I'd like Egypt to take people. I'd like Jordan to take people. I could, we're talking about probably a million and a half people. And we just clean out that whole Vegas. We just clean out that whole thing. President Donald Trump is

outright calling for all Palestinians to be removed from the Gaza Strip and essentially dumped into other Arab countries. Now here's more of what he had to say and what he envisions for the future of Gaza while taking questions from reporters on Air Force One. This is on Saturday. Let's take a look. Can he tell us about you cool with the King of Jordan's thing? The Jordan's done an amazing job of housing largely Palestinian.

and so he's done it in a very successful so what was the subject of your discussion was it pretty much uh i said to him i'd love you to take good war because i'm looking at the whole gaza strip right now and it's a mess it's a real mess you know like jordan's a house people for a thousand i'd like egypt to take people i'm talking to uh general lCC tomorrow sometimes I'm living and I'd like Egypt to take people, I'd like Jordan to take people. I could be talking about probably a million and a half people and we just clean out that whole Vegas and you know it's over the centuries that said many many conflicts outside I don't know it's something has to happen but it's it's literally a demolition site right now almost everything's

demolished and people are dying there. So I'd rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing in a different location where they can maybe live in peace. The reason why they're unable to live in peace is because the Israeli government has refused to give the Palestinian people the ability to form their own state. And when you're talking about the disaster scene in the Gaza Strip, well, that disaster scene was partly caused by the United States supplying Israel with the bombs that it continued to drop on the Gaza Strip, destroying nearly every single building in the region. So to say that you're going to add insult to injury by pushing Palestinians, 1.5 million

people out of their own land as a result of what Israel did is outrageous to say the least and to put this responsibility on neighboring Arab countries to basically absorb a million and a half refugees is out of control. Yeah, moving all 2.2 million Gazans from the, Palestinians from Gaza is the definition of ethnic cleansing. Literally, you can say if you're a right winger who just loves Trump and thinks that the demigod can do no wrong, you can say, oh, well, that's ethnic cleansing and genocide are great.

Now I've changed my position to pro war, pro genocide, pro all these things. Okay, I mean, you live with that on your conscience if you like. But no one else thinks this is a good idea. Even Lindsey Graham, which we'll get to in a second, one of the top neocons, like seems a bit much, okay? I mean, if you, if the neocons think you went too far, Jesus. And of course, yet another exception for Israel, which we're gonna get to in a second. So the dog walking of Trump has begun.

So why did I say that I thought Trump might be worse for this situation than Biden? Because it was obvious that Netanyahu wanted Trump to win. Netanyahu is not naive, he didn't want Trump to win because golly gee, just wanted a ceasefire so bad. Could I add that at any moment. No, Netanyahu plans to steal more Palestinian land, period. If you don't know that, you're the most naive person on earth, or you're purposely blinding yourself. So this is Donald Trump, go, yeah, yes, stealing the lens is like a good idea to me. I mean, I got $337 million just from the Aedelson family to help them steal this land.

So golly, gee, it looks like great idea to me. So it's a horrific, disgusting thing that Donald Trump is talking about here. Let's hope to God that it never comes to fruition, not only on moral grounds, but at some point, you would imagine that this would cause some sort of cataclysmic war. And then if you still make excuses for Trump, okay. That's up to you, but and by the way, if they try to steal the Gaza, which they're almost certainly going to do, I'm never going to call Palestinians terrorists no matter what they do, okay? So go ahead and cry about it. Oh, we just murdered 50,000 of you and we stole all your

land. Now you guys are fighting back? Oh, dirty terrorists. No, this is terrorist state of Israel is thrilled that Trump is in here and trying to green light their ethnic cleansing. Now we know that Trump made some promises in getting Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, to accept the ceasefire deal. And this is very likely it. So we don't know how this is going to develop. Obviously we're going to stay on this story. But when asked whether or not Palestinians from Gaza would be leaving the Gaza Strip either temporarily or long term, well Trump had some thoughts about that as well. So is this really about allowing Palestinians to live in peace or is it about something else? Let's take a look.

You know, Gaza's interesting, it's a phenomenal location on the sea, the best weather. You know, everything's good. It's like some beautiful things could be done with it, but it's very interesting. But some fantastic things could be done with Gaza. Well, Trump isn't the only one salivating at the real estate opportunities in the Gaza Strip. In fact, his own son-in-law previously had mused about the possibilities in the in the Gaza Strip for business interests. Let's take a look at that.

Gaza's waterfront property, it could be very valuable to, if people would focus on kind of building up, you know, livelihood. So I think that it's a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but I think from Israel's perspective, I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up. It's just so transparent. So obviously, we already know that the far-right settlers in Israel had been planning to build additional illegal settlements in the Gaza Strip.

But they're not the only ones who have some interest in building in Gaza. Clearly there are business interests who are eyeing this. Clearly, Jared Kushner has been eyeing this possibility. And even Donald Trump very clearly in the video that we showed you is also looking at the real estate opportunities on this stolen land in Gaza. And Trump also didn't seem to care about the peace and safety of Palestinians when he himself ended Biden's pause on sending 2,000 pound bombs to the Israelis to essentially terrorize the Palestinians with. Take a look.

This is a comment. So Trump was asked about why he lifted the ban on those bombs or the pause on sending those bombs to Israel. And he said, because they bought them. Except they didn't. We bought it for them. Exactly. We provided the money to Israel, to buy the 2,000 pound bombs. The mainstream media is such an unbelievable joke because they'll write in all their stories. Israel has bought these weapons and they never mentioned that we paid for them buying the weapons with American taxpayer money. I mean, what a joke.

Israel isn't buying anything. Israel's using all of our money, they've taken over $300 billion from us. And if you're an American who loves Trump and you think you're America first. Now, brother, Trump's America second, okay? So first Israel, and he's, and when this war starts, they'll want another $300 billion, and they'll make you pay it like a dog. So the bark, he lit up, wow, wow, wow, wow, Donald Trump, the dog walk has begun, okay? Netanyahu was taking him around the park.

So now he's like, well, what, genocide in war? So it's like a good idea, and let's get water from property for my crooked son-in-law. Who already took $2 billion off to Saudis, right? So this is the kind of crook that Jared Kushner is. His father was a crook, he was pardoned by Donald Trump. There are a bunch of criminals in this family, and all they want to do is help Israel steal this land. So I told you the ceasefire was fake. Nanyahu said in Hebrew, oh yeah, we don't intend to honor the ceasefire the minute we want to.

We're gonna restart bombing them. He said it again today. And 90 day freeze on all four in eight, except of course Israel, beloved Israel. Walk around the park, Donald, walk around the park. At least we know your own and you're a politician like all the rest of them. In fact, finance minister in Israel, Basel Smotrich, one of the most hardline, far right members of the cabinet, told reporters that he is already working on an operational plan to implement what Trump's idea is. He says after years of statesmen trying to impose their imaginations on reality, the US president is

is finally acknowledging reality. Gaza is a hotbed of terrorism that creates suffering for both the residents of the state of Israel and the residents of Gaza themselves. I love the like fake concern about the residents of Gaza, as he himself was one of the loudest voices in advocating for dropping those 2,000 pound bombs, slaughtering those women and children in Gaza, the elderly people in Gaza, imprisoning people who hadn't done any anything wrong and holding them in detention without a single charge, without any trial. I mean, that's who he is, that's who Baselel Smotrich is, but let me give you more.

There is no doubt that in the long term encouraging emigration is the only solution. I am working with the prime minister and the cabinet to prepare an operational plan and ensure the realization of President Trump's vision. There is nothing to be excited about the weak opposition of Egypt and Jordan to the plan. Obviously, these are the Arab majority countries that would, in the mind of Trump, absorb these Palestinian refugees. We saw yesterday how Trump imposed his will on Colombia to deport immigrants despite its opposition. When he wants it, it happens.

But I want to be clear, even some of Donald Trump's most ardent defenders, and I'm talking about hardcore warhawks, are not in favor of what Trump is trying to do here. So let's go to Lindsey Graham, who I never thought in a million years I would agree with on anything, but he says the idea that all the Palestinians are going to leave and go somewhere else, I don't see that to be overly practical. And on Sunday, Trump officials tried to walk back part of his comments. They suggested that the United States and their regional partners could guarantee that the Palestinians would eventually be allowed to return.

Get a load of these jokers. So let me get this right, Israel destroys all of Gaza, and by the way, they went block by block. This was not a normal war zone that you'll see after World War II, et cetera. No, it was a demolition. And they demolished every school, every university, every hospital in northern Gaza. For example, they destroyed about it or partially damaged, what, 80 or 90% of the building is hard to keep track now. Complete another demolition, it was obviously to clear it out so that somebody like Trump can come in and go, well, it's already destroyed. What a mess, the only way to clean it up is to bring this brilliant Israelis in here to steal,

I mean, take the land, I mean to liberate the Palestinians into a goddamn other place where we'll murder them next and take that land and then we'll take more land and we'll murder more Palestinians and more Arabs and then Americas will be forced to pay for that as well. Give me $300 billion, $3 trillion. I want all of America's money and I'm going to hand it over to Israel because they haven't murdered enough Palestinians or stolen enough of their land. How is it America first to send billions and billions of dollars to Israel? And by the way, the Trump administration has halted for a temporary period of time foreign aid to every country, with the exception of Israel and Egypt.

And Egypt only because they have a deal with Israel. Yes. If they didn't have the deal with Israel, of course their money would be pulled as well. So America second. America second, I think second. But Israel definitely first, because first they get the money and then maybe, maybe at a way later time the Americans might get the money. So now, but just to finish the thought on the voluntary ethnic cleansing, what do you think the percentage chances that Israel will clear out all the Palestinians from Gaza, force them into Jordan and Egypt, but only for a temporary period of time and then welcome them back in once they've rebuilt the place? Come on. You literally have to be the dumbest person in America or in the world to believe that they would let them back in.

No, it's an absolute robbery. Israel has robbed so much Arab land. And if that fact bothers you, take it up with Israel and not the people who bring you absolute inarguable facts. I know, I know our beloved ancient land and Yahweh promised it to me. In America, you better be my bitch and have both Biden and Trump. walk around the park like goddamn dogs. Give me all the money and give me all the land. Israel says, and Trump goes right away, sir.

So we got a new dog at the White House, but it still serves the same master. All right, well, let's move on to what's currently transpiring with inspector, inspectors general, because Donald Trump did something that is raising alarms, not just among Democrats, but some Republicans as well. Can you talk to us about the firing of the inspectors general? Why did you do that? Because it's a very common thing to do. I don't know them, but some people thought that some were unfair or some we're not doing the

the job and it's a first standard thing, very much like the U.S. attorneys. Do you plan to bring your own people in those positions, Mr. President? Which people? In the inspectors general? Not my people. I don't know anybody that would do that, but we'll put people in that that will be very good. Late Friday night, President Donald Trump purged 17 federal agencies of their inspectors general, which is a shocking and

turns out also unlawful move that has even some Republicans calling Trump out. Now first of all, what even is an inspector general? What is their role and what are they responsible for? Well, it turns out that they are responsible for conducting independent and objective audits, investigations, and inspections, prevent and detect waste, fraud and abuse, keep the agency head and Congress fully and currently informed. But despite being the person to appoint many of the IGs in his last term, Donald Trump has decided to get rid of them. He has purged the government of them. Inspectors General had received an email from the White House telling each of them on behalf of Trump that due to changing priorities,

your position as Inspector General was terminated effective immediately. Now, they didn't get any additional rationale as to why Donald Trump decided to fire them. But take a look at this, the agencies and departments whose watchdogs were fired included the small business administration, the departments of agriculture, state, interior, commerce, defense, housing and urban development, transportation, as well as the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Environmental Protection Agency. Trump says that this kind of purge is very common. It's a common practice, but that's not exactly true. So the scale of the firings is pretty unprecedented. It hasn't been since, since Ronald Reagan ousted 15 inspectors general after taking office back in 1981.

And who got axed is equally important here. Many of them had done investigations of the Biden administration's operations and also published damning reports. Meanwhile, Michael Horowitz, who is the Obama appointed inspector general or was of the Justice Department, was one of just a handful of watchdogs who weren't fired. So this individual is still in their post, but during a press gaggle on Air Force One, Trump explained why. Let's take a look. Michael Horowitz, which came to me, I thought his report on company was incredible actually. It was such an accurate, well done report. I only wish Bill Barr used it, which he chose not to, but it was an incredible report.

Michael Horowitz wrote the definitive report on James Comey and the FBI. And really got that going. All right, so he favored Horowitz's report on James Comey. But ironically, another guy that Trump did not fire is a guy named Joseph Kufari Jr., who's the Inspector General at the Department of Homeland Security. A Trump appointee, Kufari was under investigation for years by an independent panel of watchdogs, which found in October that he misled the Senate during his nomination process and committed another or other misconduct during his five years in office. But he's good to stay.

Donald Trump did not fire him. And beyond the usual or unusually massive scale of Trump's purge, it was also carried out illegally. The findings defied a law that requires presidents to give Congress 30 days advance notice before removing any inspector general, along with reasons for the firing. Just two years ago, Congress strengthened that provision by requiring the notice to include a substantive rationale, including detailed and case-specific reasons for the removal. So we'll get to what Republicans have to say about this in just a minute, but, Jank, what are your thoughts? Yeah. First, go to one of our members on t.yot.com. Asura Zumi wrote in, how did he break the law when the Supreme Court gave him absolute power?

So, well, that goes to one of the reasons I voted against Donald Trump, especially after that Supreme Court ruling, what we have here is the president can still break the law. There is such a thing as the law. So for example, if he shot a guy in the face, that's breaking the law, that's murder, right? But can he get away with it? Yes. So that was one of the worst decisions by the Supreme Court. It's absurd, it says you can't look into why the president did anything.

So yes, it's illegal, but there's nothing that anyone can do about it. What are they gonna do, impeach him? What are they gonna do, arrest them? There's literally no way to hold them accountable. So that's why this is an epic disaster. And brought to you by that very corrupt Supreme Court. The Supreme Court is a cancer in this country. As a system, it should work fine, but it's been taken over by corporate interests and now,

apparently some degree of dictatorial interests. So Trump said some people thought that they were doing X, Y or Z. Some people thought, I thought you were making the decisions. But why did you fire some of your own appointees and some people that actually did work that you liked, including at the Veterans Administration? Well, some people thought they weren't good. Okay, so you're not even checking. Somebody's handing him a list of whatever their agenda is to cheat and rob the government. And he's going, okay, good, this is the list.

We've got to get rid of these guys so we could rob the place blind. Okay, now, right wing says, no, no, no, no. They're just doing this to stop waste fraud and abuse. Yeah, that's what you do. You get rid of the watchdogs when you need watch dogs. No, when you don't want watch dogs, they're independent. And by the way, if- Are they independent though when they're appointed by the president himself?

So look, here's an important distinction, I'm glad you brought that up. So there's political appointees, there's career appointees, and then there's inspectors general. So political appointees, you can get rid of any, many time you like, that's the whole point of being a political appointee. Should Trump bring in his own guys, of course, sometimes people will complain about that, but not, that's pretty rare, right? No, of course you bring in your political guys.

Some career people, that's a little bit more of a gray zone. And some people, especially the Trump folks will say, hey, listen, I'm the president, man. I'm gonna bring in these career guys that I like instead of the career guys you like. That's pretty dangerous. Inspectors general are supposed to be independent so that they could hold both Democratic and Republican administrations accountable. When you politicize those, well, then they're not independent anymore and they're totally useless. Some of those guys that he fired, investigated Biden, because that's their job.

and they did a good job of investigating Biden. But he doesn't want himself to be investigated, so that's why he's firing them. Now, if you're in right wing Lala landing, you think Donald Trump's a demigod, you'll say no way. He did it with pure heart, pure heart. Now, but if Biden had done the same exact thing and fired all the inspectors general that are supposed to be watchdogs of his administration, including some appointed by Trump, what would you guys have said? You would have said, outrageous, he's gonna rob the place blind, Hunter's gonna do all sorts

of things and he and that's why he fired all the watchdogs. Exactly, I agree with you. But he didn't do that. Trump did it because he doesn't want any watchdogs that aren't his loyalists because him and his friends are going to rob the place blind. Okay, I agree that it's not good that he purged inspectors general. Okay, so let me just do the throat clearing, get that out of the way before people freak out. But how are you going to argue that these aren't like, that these are independent individuals when they're appointed by the presidents, Jank. I know, but they go through different administrations. Right, okay. So like some of these were Trump appointees that Biden didn't fire,

even though they were appointed by Trump. Okay, I get that, right? So that once you hire them and the Senate confirms them, they need Senate confirmation, that is for some degree of independence, right? Got it, got it. Are they going to be perfectly independent? No, because you could have, as we do today, a Republican president and a Republican Senate, and they could confirm them, et cetera. But at least it's an effort to keep them independent. Otherwise, it's a frickin' joke. And when he says a standard practice to fire all of them, flat out 100% lie.

That's not standard practice at all. He's the one that did at this scale as, you know, more than any. Look, there's nonstop lies. Heg said that his confirmation told the senators, don't worry, I will make sure that the Inspector General of the Defense Department is not fired. He was fired, of course. Of course. Of course. Okay, and so any replacement would need to be confirmed by the Senate, correct?

Theoretically, yes. All right, well, we'll see how that plays out. But there are some Republican lawmakers who aren't happy about this. They've spoken out against it. So let's take a look at what they have to say. The law says he's supposed to do 30 days. He didn't do that. Do you think he violated the law?

Well, technically, yeah, but he has the authority to do it. I've heard of some, from some of your GOP colleagues, who are concerned about this, saying it didn't give the proper notification, even if ultimately it would be, the notice wasn't there. And is President Trump signaling, he's just going to, you know, observe which loss he wants to and not others. In a statement, Republican Senator Chuck Grassley said he would like further explanation from President Trump. All right, so you've got a handful of Republican lawmakers who are willing to say they disagree with this. The question is, now that Donald Trump went against, you know, the law in their

words, then are they going to do anything about it? What are they going to do about it? Likely nothing. I agree with you on that, Jank. And many of the ousted IGs and democratic lawmakers are concerned that this purge is meant to clear the way for Trump to install the loyalists. So they are talking about that in Congress. As of right now, we don't know who if any of the replacements are going to be. But history validates some of the concerns that we're hearing from those criticizing Donald Trump. Any inspector general must be replaced in an acting role by someone who has already been confirmed by the Senate or already served in the watchdog community, Congress amended the law after Trump installed political loyalists to replace some of the five watchdogs

he fired in quick succession in his first term. Yeah. So some on the right will say, well, look, guys, let's see what they do first. You can't, you know, you're judging ahead of time. Maybe they're going to cut waste, fraud, and abuse. Yeah, maybe. But in that, in this case, That doesn't make any sense because we won't see what they'll do because they're the ones who are supposed to be the watchdogs. Once you remove fair independent watchdogs and you replace them with cronies, whether you're a Democrat or Republican, then we'll never really know what you're doing inside that department. Yeah.

Because the people that are supposed to be watching out for that are no longer watching out for it. So this is a way for you to never find out the corruption that goes inside all those departments. And then finally the idea of the GOP senators holding Trump. accountable. Come on, nobody's that stupid, right? Especially right now, his approval rating at this moment is even higher than it was right after he got elected. Yeah. Yeah, there's still, guys, he has Supreme Court says he has immunity from law breaking. The GOP senator's favorite hobby is kissing both sides of his cheeks. I mean, there's no chance this is gonna get stopped. You won't find out what's happening inside

those departments. The inspectors generals are basically gone and useless now. So cross your fingers and hope they don't steal too much. All right, when we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about what's transpiring with Donald Trump's immigration policies and the recent spat he had with an ally of ours, Colombia. That and more coming up, don't miss it. All right, back on T-O-T-Jank, Anna and Miss Frilly Knickers. Fun for everybody. Okay, get a girl. I see you.

Hit the join bottom below and we'll read your handle too. All right, Anna, what's thanks? Well, there was a little bit of a tiff between Donald Trump and the president of Columbia. Let's get into it. For hours, the two allies locked in a tense standoff after Colombia refused to accept two military deportation flights from the U.S., turning them away when the planes were already en route. The Colombian president referencing this deportation flight to Brazil. Authorities there say some were denied water and access to a bathroom. Colombia has now agreed to accept their own citizens who have been deportation.

by the Donald Trump administration following the president's threats of implementing massive tariffs against Colombia, should they deny entry of their own citizens into their own country. Now, let's get into how this entire episode broke down. But before I do, if you want a little tasty taste of what Jank thinks about this story. I think it's totally the Colombian president's fault. But I'm going to explain why. And I think that Trump actually did the right thing. I know. Get ready. Buckle up. Race for impact. All right, so hold for that. Let me just give you the details of the story to start off. So on Sunday, Colombia blocked two separate flights that were deporting hundreds of Columbia nationals who were in the United States illegally. Now, the president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, called the flights inhumane treatment. But Colombia has accepted deportation flights from the United States in the past.

In fact, in 2024, 124 planes carrying deported migrants from the U.S. landed in the country. But Petro specified that Colombia would not accept military deportation flights. He feels that it's cruel that they weren't sent over in civilian flights. Or I guess commercial flights, so he says, I cannot make migrants stay in a country that does not want them. But if that country sends them back, it should be with dignity and respect for them and for our country. Now again, it's important to note that the Colombian president actually, you know, authorize the flights and then rescinded those authorizations, which was a really bad move.

And if he thought people wouldn't figure out that he had done that, he was sorely mistaken. But Petro also questioned whether the American president was trying to topple him. So he went on a super long rant on X. And in that rant, he said something along the lines of, you don't like our freedom, fine. I do not shake hands with white enslavers. So that's when Trump essentially threatened Colombia with tariffs and more. I was just informed that two repatriation flights from the United States with a large number of illegal criminals, this is Trump and his exact statement on true social,

were not allowed to land in Colombia. Petro's denial of these flights has jeopardized the national security and public safety of the United States. So I have directed my administration to immediately take the following urgent and decisive retaliatory measures. So Trump said that the United States would impose a 25% tariff on Colombia, which would increase to 50% within a week. He also said that he would fully impose banking and financial sanctions against Colombia, apply a travel ban on Colombian government officials into the United States and their associates. And even go further. He says that he would revoke their visas. AOC jumped in on this and basically drew

attention to how the tariffs would impact American citizens. She said to punish Columbia, Trump is about to make every American pay even more for coffee. Remember, we pay the tariffs, not Colombia. Trump is all about making inflation worse for working class Americans, not better. He's lining the pockets of himself and the billionaire class. But in reality, the United States still happens to be Colombia's largest trading partner, and the country is, in fact, economically reliant on the United States. So Trump knew that these tariff threats would really pack a punch. And so he knew he had leverage and would basically pressure Columbia to play ball. Colombian exports to the United States include crude oil, coffee, and cut flowers.

Columbia also happens to be the largest South American market for agricultural products from the United States, including pork, also dairy, alcoholic beverages, and pet food are included in the top U.S. exports to Colombia. And following Donald Trump's threats, looks like the president of Columbia has decided to cave. Okay, so Columbia's foreign ministry released a statement soon afterward that said, we have overcome the impasse with the United States government. It said the government would accept all deportation flights and guarantee dignified conditions for those Colombians on board. And yes, those flights include military flights. But I want to note that as this whole

scuffle was happening, Columbia's president was like, I'm going to send the presidential plane to pick up the migrants. Unclear if that's going to happen. But what has definitely happened is they have now accepted military flights into the country to deport Colombian nationals. Okay, so why do I think the Colombian president's at fault? So first of all, he changes mind mid flight. That's already totally unacceptable. You said that they could come. So that's problem number one.

Problem number two is he said, oh, sending him on a military plane is inhumane. I'm not sure why. And if you want them treated humanely, good news, they're gonna land soon. You can treat them as humanely as you like, okay? So the guys, the question isn't this form of transportation. The question is who's on the plane? So if the Trump administration is right that it's convicted felons, Sayonara, very happy to send them back, and I don't care how we send them back.

And if you say, oh, Jake, that's not a progressive position, you're wrong. You could poll Democratic voters, you could poll Bernie voters. There's literally no one are in the country who thinks that we should keep convicted felons that are undocumented immigrants outside of a couple of radicals online, right? And so it's a very popular position, and if you choose to fight on those grounds, You will be burning all of our credibility. Then when they actually go to do mass deportations of non-felons and non-criminales, then you'll have no credibility left to fight back with because you'll be known as the people

who defended some of the worst gang members in the world. So this is, picking a fight on these grounds is ridiculous and really counterproductive and will really hurt the left. Now look, AOC, when she says we pay the tariffs, not them, that's true, okay? So when you stick with the truth, no problem. But she, look, anyway, I'm not trying to blame AOC Ford. If all the tariffs happened, coffee prices would have got up. But the tariffs weren't going to happen because this was such a minor complaint by the Colombian president that any kind of tariff threat would have worked and did work.

And by the way, if you're denying that the tariff threat worked, you're just living on a different planet. Oh, it totally works. It worked instantly, right? And if the Colombian president is really bothered by the fact that it's US military planes and he's really sending his own plane to get some of these convicted felons back? Great, no problem. I don't have any problem with that. I really couldn't care less how they go back.

So I just, I don't, and by the way, if you, I read the actual statement of the Colombian president, sounded like the ravings of a lunatic mind. Yeah. It was totally nonsensical and this was like the white enslavers, I will not accept anything. Well, I mean, I will accept the white enslavers thing. Now that he, you know, threatened the tariffs.

Okay. guys just get everybody has a domestic audience he was directing that to his domestic audience so I'm the big tough guy who's gonna fight America blah blah blah blah and he probably won't tell them that he immediately caved right everybody does propaganda yeah but okay so the thing is his whole argument about the mistreatment of these migrants who are being deported makes no sense because if you're concerned about them being mistreated by the United States government, how does it make sense for you to deny those migrants, those Colombian nationals

entry into your own country, right? You want to send them back to the United States where they're, according to him, being mistreated. Well, that's why I said once they land, you can treat them as humanely as you like. You're welcome to have them back. So, but I look, some on the left, again, they get frustrated and they go, no, no, no, you can't say he's welcome to have them back. Guys, the question is who are they? If they're just normal undocumented immigrants and this guy is rounding everyone up and sending them back, I'm gonna fight along with you.

That's gonna, and by the way, the American people are not gonna like that. They might think they like it now, we've got polling on that, we're gonna share with you a little bit later, right? But once they start seeing families being uprooted, they are not going to like it and he's gonna lose popularity. But if you decide that you wanna die on the political hill of keep the convicted here, you're gonna die politically on that hill. And I have no interest in you wrapping that albatross around the neck of the entire left.

Yeah, I agree. All right, well, we gotta take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about the details of the individuals who have been deported. Who exactly is ICE targeting for deportation? We've got some information on that and more coming up. Don't miss it. All right, back on T.O.T. Jankana with you guys. Forward. Well, let's talk a little more about what's currently transpiring across the country with

Donald Trump's ICE and the deportations that they're currently carrying out. All my people are getting attacked, the children. I don't understand. I'm so sorry. I wish I could do something, but I can't. I don't know what to do. I'll try everything I promise. There you have an emotional,

Selena Gomez over Donald Trump's immigration policies, especially as we're hearing more and more about the individuals who are being deported by ICE under Donald Trump. But there are some, including Democratic alderman Raymond Lopez from Chicago, who argue the Trump administration is specifically targeting individuals who have been convicted of crimes and have been in the country illegally. In fact, take a listen to what he had to say. They are stoking fear against the federal government because they want people to be afraid. They want people to be panicked and they want to show desolate neighborhoods. When all Tom Holman has said is that he wants to focus on dangerous criminals so that they can come in and leave communities as quickly as possible.

And it's truly a disservice to our residents to see the mayor and his allies whip people into hysteria simply for their own political benefit. Now again, that was a Democratic alderman in Chicago. His name is Raymond Lopez, and he's arguing, look, there's a lot of fear mongering going on and it's wrong. But is it true that Trump's administration is specifically targeting individuals who have committed other crimes in the country? Well, let's hear a little more from the alderman, and we'll get into more details about who's being deported. I'm very thankful that immigration and customs enforcement is being very transparent and who they are arresting what the crimes that they were committing or accused of committing were because I think it's important for people to see that they're not going into churches, schools and hospitals to round up children or your grandparents, that they're actually going after very dangerous individuals. And I think that it's very difficult when you have the local fear-mongering machine in full effect, as we saw last week, when Secret Service individuals went to a school and the Chicago Public Schools apparatus was quick to blame ICE as trying to raid the building.

You know, you need to be transparent and you need to be clear about what's going on. So he highlighted that story that broke last Friday where the school officials in an elementary school in Chicago claimed that ICE had shown, they showed up and they were planning on deporting someone. Turns out that it was actually secret service that showed up to the school in order to investigate someone who had made a specific threat to a specific government official. They never entered the school and in fact they spoke to and identified themselves to the principal who later did a press conference and made it seem like I showed up to do a raid. That was not the case. And that doesn't still fear in people, especially in Chicago.

So it's important to be accurate about what's really going on. But Selena Gomez has since taken that video down after posting it on social media. I don't know if it's because she realized that she was wrong or if she was getting so much backlash that she just wanted to take herself out of the conversation. But I've got more details on who's being deported in just a moment. Jenk, I want to get your thoughts first. Yeah, so two things on this. One is the policy and the substance and the other is the politics and the strategy, right? So on the substance here, these are not raids.

Those will probably come later, but that's not what this is. So they're going to pick up specific undocumented immigrants who were convicted felons. Now, that doesn't mean that they only got convicted felons. So my issue here is that they're picking up people that they're calling collaterals that are also undocumented immigrants but did not commit a crime. I'm never in favor of collateral damage. So I don't think that's the right way to go. But they're not going to listen to me. And they won the election, so they're going to keep on doing this.

So in terms of when to start crying like Selena Gomez, save it for the mass deportations when we have to rally the whole American people to our side to prevent it. But when you do it, when they're picking up convicted felons, you're going to lose the American people. So don't do that, as Anna is about to tell you, we're already losing them. I don't want to lose them anymore before we get to the actual problem. No, we lost them. I want to be very clear that when I was talking about.

Venezuelan gang members, that was specifically meant to make a point about how the Democratic party, which was in charge at the time, needed to do something about that. Otherwise, Americans are going to be ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. And that's exactly what's happening here. So in 2016, public opinion polls show that only 36% of Americans favored mass deportation, only 36%. Fast forward to today, let's look at the numbers. Well, New York Times, came out with the poll, 56% of Americans in favor of mass deportations. Oh, well, that must be an outlier, right? Outlier poll, how could the number increase so much?

Marquette, 64% of Americans in their poll indicated that they favor mass deportation. CBS News, 57%, ABC News, 56%. We have lost them already because when you're unwilling to make a distinction between people who are here illegally, who are committing crimes, who are running amok with those who might be in the country illegally, but they've been here for a while, they're productive members of society, and they're not hurting anyone, well, all of a sudden, you're going to have the majority of Americans think, well, Democrats aren't serious about keeping us safe, and now we don't trust them to deal with immigration. Now we want mass deportation. Yeah, so there were Venezuelan gangs. They were among

the first rounded up in Denver. Now it admits, everybody admits that there were gangs and they did take over apartment buildings. They never took over a city and nobody other than a bunch some, I guess Trump might have said they took over the city, but that was outrageous and ridiculous. No one serious said that. So, but when you chose to fight on those grounds, you did great damage to our cause. Now mass deportation is more popular because people think that it might, you know, we might be talking about those criminals. And so if we were reasonable, by the way, and then everybody always changes the goalposts. So now I see people saying, oh, no one was thought.

No one denied that they were there. No one denied that they took over apartments, at least. That's exactly what they said. That's exactly what they said. And no one denied that they should be deported. That's not true. People are denying it right now, right? Let alone earlier.

It's insane. So guys, we've got to win them back. When you're losing the country, you lose it roughly here about 57% of Americans saying we want to deport all the undocumented immigrants. You've got to be able to stop that and the way you stop that is winning the argument, winning back people on moral grounds, intellectual grounds, and by being right and not choosing to defend insane radical positions, right? So look, once they move on to the raids of just undocumented immigrants, they're gonna

to start ripping families out of their neighborhoods, out of their houses, out of their churches, et cetera. If they go in that direction, my guess is and my hope is, once people see it with their own eyes, it'll be really unpopular. That's the ground to fight on. Right. So let's get to some more detail. So Tom Homan in multiple interviews made it clear that they are specifically targeting individuals who have committed crimes. He says, my goal is to arrest as many public safety and national security threats as possible and move on to the other priorities were prioritizing criminal aliens. Now ICE announced enhanced targeted operations in multiple cities.

And you might notice a trend with the cities I'm about to list, Chicago, Atlanta, Puerto Rico, Colorado, Los Angeles, and Austin, Texas. Now many of the cities that I listed happen to be sanctuary cities and that's relevant because I think they're targeting these sanctuary cities to make a point about how if local authorities don't work with us, collaborate with us to help us deport individuals who have committed crimes, well then we're going to have issues with the collateral deportations. Individuals who haven't committed any other crime other than being in the country illegally,

but since they are in the company of other migrants who have committed crimes, well, if they're in the same room, if they're in the same company, we're just going to deport everyone, right, in that room. So according to ICE, Let's go to this graphic. Nationwide, 956 people were arrested and 554 detainers were lodged Sunday, marking the highest total since the agency started deporting them on the platform. So far overall, there have been 2,500 roughly deportations. And there were criminals detained in these operations.

The DEA carried out a raid in Adams County, Colorado on Sunday morning. that targeted a drug trafficking operation. Fifty undocumented individuals were arrested according to the DEA's Rocky Mountain Division. Here's what they said. In a post on X, the DEA announced that drugs, weapons, and cash were seized in the raid at what the DEA called a makeshift nightclub. They also claimed that dozens connected to the Trenda Aragwa gang were there. Of the roughly 50 people taken into custody, the DEA said many have TDA affiliation.

affiliations. Others who have been arrested by ICE include a guy by the name of Jose Barco Chirnino, who's a Venezuelan national. He was taken into custody at Colorado's state prison in Cannon City. So what they're doing is they're also going to the prisons as these individuals are finishing up their sentences to deport them as soon as their sentence is over. By the way, that's the right way to do it. Yeah, I agree. But you can only do that if local authorities are willing to cooperate. If it's a sanctuary city, they're less likely to be willing to do that. Right, but a lot of the blue states are now saying, look, we're not going to cooperate with

you if you're coming in to grab these folks off the streets. But if you are going to pick them up from the prison once they're released, we will let you do that. And that's the right thing to do. Yeah, of course. Otherwise, they'd be absurd to have the federal government come in to deport the people, but the local prison won't tell you when they're coming out. I mean, that would be Yeah. So by the way, that's good. Blue states are doing the right thing there saying, yeah, for sure, when, you know, when they get out, we'll come, we'll tell you and you can come get them so that it's not, you're not rating churches or schools or homes, et cetera. So that guy, Chirino, apparently had been convicted, not just charged, convicted of attempted murder, extreme indifference and felony menacing with a real or simulated weapon. Then you have another individual, a Mexican national who was convicted of sexual abuse of a minor. He was, he was. was arrested by ICE in Seattle. In Miami, ICE arrested six undocumented immigrants from Guatemala who had been

convicted of battery child abuse fraud, resisting arrest, DWI, trespassing, and vandalism. Please explain to me why we would want to keep these people in the country. Explain it to me. Anyone who wants to make the case, I'm super curious what the argument is, but my favorite guy is this individual who has 17 criminal convictions in the United States. Take a look at what he had to say. We are targeting very violent threats to our camps. This Salvadoran illegal alien charged locally with rape and released by a sanctuary jurisdiction.

And this Dominican illegal alien charged with assault with a deadly weapon and heroin trafficking. Officers also arrested this Guatemalan MS-13 gang member facing gun charges. I says he was released from local custody just the day before. Their detainer request was ignored because of sanctuary policies. And in a sign of shifting priorities with the new Trump administration, this man who was in the same apartment as the target was also arrested. After ICE determined, he's also in the U.S. illegally. This is what ICE calls collateral. We are targeting very violent threats to our community.

I'm not going back to Haiti. One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti. ICE says he's a gang member with 17 criminal convictions in recent years. So you feel me? You know Biden forever, bro. Thank Obama for everything that he did for me, bro. Not good. That's not a good look for Democrats.

Yeah, I mean, you couldn't do more damage to Biden than Obama if you tried. And Obama actually, I mean, he's still known as a deporter in chief. Still, even compared to Donald Trump, Obama did far more deportations. I mean, if that moron thought he was helping the Democrats, I mean, it's almost like he's a Republican plant. You've got a massive criminals saying how much he loves Biden and Obama. God, so anyways, guys, at the same time, don't be too distracted by one rando, okay? So most of these folks don't give a damn about politics. All they care about is if they're in gangs or their criminals carrying out those crimes for their own benefit, right? So overall, though, as these folks are being rounded up,

one, I don't like the guy who arrested who's up on gun charges because he hasn't been convicted yet. And not only that, I want him, if he did do it, I want him convicted in serving his time here. I don't want him to just be released and be free in whichever country he goes to. I want him to serve time for his, you know, for his crime. For his crimes here. The guy who is quote unquote collateral, that doesn't make any sense to me. I know that the Republicans want it. I know that they'll get it, but I don't like it. And I, again, like I said in the beginning, I don't like anyone who's collateral damage. But overall, the politics of this is that so far none of this is hurting Trump. This is probably helping Trump. So don't fight on this hill. His approval

rating has increased since he got elected, actually. And the final thing that I'll note is, I just think it's so fascinating how the media frames deportations under Democratic leadership versus Republican leadership, right? Because the Trump administration so far has done about 2,500 deportations. But let's go to the graphic five here. In the last fiscal year, meaning when Biden was still in charge, ICE's enforcement and removal operations conducted 113,431 administrative arrests according to an agency report, amounting to about 310 arrests a day across all field offices. I didn't see Selena Gomez crying about that because Selena Gomez didn't know about that. Okay, because the media didn't make a big deal about

it. But when it's Trump, they make a huge deal about it. Yeah, and it's weird in both directions, right? Because people think that Biden did nothing in getting convicted felons. deported when he actually did a lot. I mean, in the last year after it became a huge political liability. But nevertheless, like so right now the story was that Trump's ICE has a quota of 75 people deported a day. Well, that's 310 people a day. That wasn't a quota. They were actually doing it. They already did it, right? So on the one hand, the media is bad in that they make it seem like Trump is pure evil for doing this and they don't even mention

that Biden did it. On the other hand, that actually hurts Biden. Because Biden did deport these people and the press never really deported, I mean, never reported on it. So it made it seem like he did nothing. So not helpful in either direction. How about this? How about we are consistent for all politicians? That'd be great. And just honest to our viewers and our readers.

Can I ask for that from mainstream media? Apparently a little bit too much to ask for. All right. Let's take a break. When we come back, we'll talk about Pete Heggzitz confirmation and more. Don't miss it. You know, I'm going to be. I'm going to be.

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