The Young Turks - Rage & Race

Episode Date: October 11, 2022

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Visit TD.com slash small business match to learn more. Conditions apply. Welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Uy, Anna Kasperin with you guys. Listen, guys, this happens every day. So I come in in a good mood. Then we're going to tell you disastrous stories about anti-Semitism and racism and every kind of ism you've ever seen in your life. And the ghouls and goblins are all out pre-Hawloven. Okay.

And so we're going to tell you all about that. We're going to fight back against them. So, but at least I start out happy until we get to the stories. But don't worry, hang in there, have hope. Let's find out about them. And then let's fight through them, all right? Yes. Well, we begin with some international news today.

It's been a while since we've done deep dive into what's transpiring in Ukraine. So without further ado, let's talk about it. You are watching a Russian missile hit a glass pedestrian bridge in downtown Kiev that had been a popular site for tourists. It's not a bridge that's used by Kiev's military or by Ukraine's military. It's specifically an area where pedestrians, tourists tend to be. Now, Russian President Vladimir Putin decided to bombard Kiev with missile strikes in retaliation for Ukraine's explosion of the Crimean Bridge over the weekend. The attack by Russia's military was actually so intense and deadly that it's reported to have rivaled the day Russia's invasion started. Now, to give you some more details on this, the strikes targeted critical infrastructure in cities from Kharkiv in the east to Lviv, in the west.

and also hit in the center of downtown Kyiv, sending civilians racing for shelter. At least five people were killed and at least a dozen others were injured in the Kiev strikes, Ukraine's national police reported on its telegram channel. Now, one of the missiles actually ended up landing in a playground that's popular in Kiev known as Taras Chavenshenko, and Ukraine has asked for additional military assistance. assistance to bolster their air defenses. So Ukraine's military reported that its air defenses had knocked down 43 of the 83 missiles that had been launched at the country on Monday. Now, I want to give you some more details on what led to this, or at least what Putin and the Russian military

is claiming this is done in retaliation for, and it has to do with the attack on the Crimean Bridge. So let's take a quick look at that video and I'll explain that to you. So the Crimean Bridge that the Ukrainian forces blew up is not a popular tourist destination, but rather a strategic piece of Russian military infrastructure. The strikes appear to be retribution for Saturday's attack on the bridge across the Kerch Strait, which was partially reopened, including to rail traffic. The Crimean Bridge is a strategic, this is important. It's a strategic link between mainland Russia and Crimea, which of course was illegally annexed by Russia and is not recognized internationally as Russian territory.

The 12 mile span, while used by civilians, is a critical military logistics conduit for Russia's military, which is why the Ukrainian military would target the Crimea bridge. So comparing the tourist slash pedestrian bridge that was targeted by Russians to the Crimean Bridge is ridiculous because clearly the Crimean Bridge is used specifically as a important piece of military infrastructure for Russia. Yeah. Plus it was personal. So Putin was super proud of that bridge. He was part of the opening ceremony back in 2018. Remember, they took Crimea in 2014. That was the original Russian. invasion into Ukraine and this is the longest bridge in Europe and and it is definitely used for logistics but they did bomb it on Putin's birthday and then the defense minister for Ukraine sent a video of the mashup of that bridge getting bombed and Marilyn Monroe singing happy birthday Mr. President, okay? So they definitely rubbed his nose in it. So who struck first in this

case? Yes, the Ukrainians hit the bridge in Crimea first. Does that matter? Absolutely not. Why? Is it because we should be unconcerned about lives lost there? No, no. As I was watching a video, I was thinking, man, those people in those cars, they have no idea, but they're about to die. And so I don't care if they're Russian citizens or even military. I mean, those are human beings there. So it is not really something to celebrate. Okay. Now, so does that mean that's the Ukrainians fault? No. The fault of any war is the country that started it, period, right? So for example, we started a war in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of civilians died, that's on us. So funny enough, or horribly enough, Colin Powell, one of the guys who started that war, but later regretted it, said if you break it, you own it. And in this case, Putin has broken Ukraine in that he has invaded, he has started killing civilians. And now you look at the bombs that landed in Kiev and in other Ukrainian cities.

So civilians, I saw some of the carnage and we can't show you the dead bodies on the ground, but I saw him. And it's a hell of a thing. I mean, Putin made a decision, I'm going to enter this country and I'm going to murder people. Yeah, I mean, that is his MO. I mean, that is what he did in Syria with assisting Bashar al-Assad with, yes, chemical weapons attacks. And for any leftist who's bought into Russian propaganda in questioning the existence of chemical weapons attacks in Syria, you've been duped, or you are, you know, part of the Russian propaganda machine, but fact of the matter is, if you look at Putin's actions in other conflicts around the world, this is what he does.

Yes. This is what he likes to do to bring whoever in his mind he's fighting to their knees, targeting innocent civilians and victimizing them through his military action. And to be clear, Putin's been flailing and he's lashing out as a result of that. So as we had shared with you before, Ukraine with the assistance of United States military aid has been able to take back some of the ground that had been lost to the Russian military since the invasion of Ukraine. For instance, in the past six weeks, Ukraine has routed Russian forces from the northeast Kharkiv region and push them back in the eastern Donbos region and in the southern

Kershon region. So they're starting to make or take back some of the ground that had been taken from them by the Russian military. Yeah, the problem is we've now entered in a sense a more brutal portion of this invasion and war because since it went so poorly, Putin fired the general in charge. He put in a new general. Who's that guy? Well, he's the guy who led the campaign in Syria.

And what did they do in Syria? Oftentimes, indiscriminate bombing of civilians. So they brought in the hatchet, man. And so some of the most hardline people in Russia and also a leader of Chechnya within Russia are all celebrating. They're like, okay, now they love the bombings of Kiev and the other civilian areas. They said, this is how you should conduct a war. Make sure that they understand that we will keep murdering their civilians. the Ukrainians are relentless, so they're going back into the four territories that Russia

claims they annexed. So they're not going to stop. And Putin and his hardliners have now moved on to, well, we're going to retaliate by killing even more civilians. So this is going to get, this is going to continue to be super ugly. Unfortunately, with a new Kremlin strategy, even uglier than before. Yeah, I mean, and it doesn't appear that there's any end in sight. And any notion of a peace deal, a discussion about ending this as soon as possible through some sort of agreement seems far-fetched. But at the same time, I should note that Russia has serious core strategic problems, including loss of soldiers, of course, lack of morale among the Russian soldiers. I mean, just think back to when this invasion began, where the soldiers were under the impression that they would be welcomed. by Ukrainians because Ukrainians desperately wanted to be liberated from Ukraine to be part

of Russia. Obviously they were lied to. They were fed propaganda and many of them got killed as a result of that propaganda. And now you have, you know, members of the Russian military trying to dodge having to go to Ukraine. It's been a disaster for them. And repeated logistical failures. We're seeing that as well. But Putin's not giving up. He just lashes out more in the ways that you describe, Schenk. Yeah, last thing is, look, if you see people being apologists for this butcher, Vladimir Putin, understand what their objective is, right? So there's no defense of Putin. In the, before the invasion, you can say, hey, listen, we're encroaching too much into Russian neighboring areas, right? And they're worried, like we were worried about

Cuba, they're worried about Ukraine and us putting weapons in there or making a part of NATO. there were legitimate arguments. After the invasion, even though Ukraine said they would not join NATO, which was the ostensible reason Putin was pretending to care, then they made up insane things about the Jewish leader being a Nazi. It's a ridiculous, totally insane, right? So I don't care if you hear it on the right wing or the left wing. It is 100% propaganda. So if you still see people doing that kind of propaganda, whether it's Tucker Carlson or anyone else, pretending to be on the left or otherwise, understand that they're doing propaganda on behalf of this butcher. Every civilian that dies in Ukraine, and by the way, in Russia. And by the way,

all the military people, they're also human beings, both in Ukraine and Russia. All of those dead are on Putin's head. And you see people kissing his ass in American media and understand that they are definitely the bad guys, bad guys who love war and imperialism. Well, let's switch gears and move on to the story that everyone's talking about. anti-Semitic statements from Kanye West. Twitter has temporarily locked Kanye West out of his own account following his anti-Semitic, not alleged, anti-Semitic and disgusting declaration of war on Jewish people.

Now, the tweet in question has been taken down, but as you can imagine, many people have taken screenshots of it before Twitter took it down. So I'm going to read what he wrote verbatim, and then we'll discuss the ramifications of these types of statements. He says, quote, I'm a bit slippy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going death con three on Jewish people, he writes in all caps. The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew also. You guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone whoever opposes your agenda.

Okay, let's keep that tweet up for a second, only because I want to draw attention to just how many people liked that tweet. 31,000 people liked it. They read that and thought, no, no, no, nailed it. Absolutely nailed it. DeathCon 3 on Jewish people, Kanye nailed it. Yeah. And by the way, it wasn't up that long. So people rushed to like that.

And so they'll say freedom of speech. We're allowed to hate Jewish people. Well, yeah, you are allowed. It's not particularly a great thing to do, though. So not something I'd brag about, but I'm not a right winger. So let's break down the tweet first. And then we'll talk about many issues with Kanye West. So it's DefCon, not DeathCon.

And for him to, but he's a genius, yeah, I know. For him to call a death con three is both incredibly stupid, which is exactly what Guy in West is. He's a very, very unintelligent person, okay? But it's also way worse. You put death in there. I'm going to go to war and we're going to go to death con three against Jewish people. There's no subtlety. There's no code words.

Hey, listen, Schmuck, you're a right winger now. They use coded language like global elites, okay? That's what your buddy Trump does and Tucker Carlson does. Said you just said it like a moron, right? I know you all think it. So then we go to more moronic statements. The funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew also.

First of all, yes, you'll address the whole argument in a second. But the fact that he said, funny thing is I can't be anti-Semitic. That communicates to me that he knows what he's saying is anti-Semitic. 100%. That's a great point. You might be anti-Semitic if you say I'm actually Jew. What is that? It's not even a Jew, which is already about now, Jewish, Jewish, whatever, right?

And then he, but the very next sentence is, you guys have toured with me and tried to blackball anyone whoever opposes your agenda. So wait, are you Jewish or are you not Jewish? What do you mean you guys? What do you mean you guys? Can we just also address? address the endless desire for powerful wealthy right wingers to be victims, to present themselves as the oppressed?

I mean, you listen to the bonkers interview that he had with Tucker Carlson and it was just endless, I'm being oppressed, I'm being oppressed. You have a massive platform, you have surrounded yourself with yes men who tell you you can do nothing wrong regardless of what you say or what you do, you're a multi-millionaire, how How are you a victim exactly in a country that has nearly 50% of the population that can't even afford a $400 emergency? And that was a statistic prior to the pandemic, prior to the pandemic. But please tell me how Kanye West is a victim.

I mean, it's insane. But he's actually perfect for the right wing mind. Absolutely. They have historically had all the power in this country. They've used it to oppress others and the fight against truth for against justice and equality. They don't want equality, you want oppression. But the minute you say, hey guys, can you not do that? They're like, oh, I'm the victim, I'm the victim.

Trump does the same exact thing. By the way, they also had, both of them had giant amounts of money. They both lost it because they're both morons. And then, do you remember when Kanye was begged Mark Zuckerberg for money? Because he had gotten broke. Because he went through, who victimized you, Kanye? Who made you run through all of your money? Was it the Jews?

Was it someone else? No moron. It was you. You spent all your money and you lost it all because you are stupid. Yeah, and look, in the past, I specifically have brought up his mental health issues. I'm not interested in having any discussion about how he has mental health issues. What he did, what he said is straight out, anti-Semitic, pointing to mental health issues as an excuse for what he tweeted out, I think is disgusting. considering the fact that there are plenty of people in this country and across the globe

who have mental health issues and they don't go around spouting anti-Semitic garbage. Yeah. Well, Anna, so I think that there's a little bit of nuance there. So a lot of people have written in and say, wait a minute, I got bipolar disorder. I don't say this. Exactly. Right? And that's obviously true, right?

So is it just because he has bipolar disorder? Absolutely not, right? So, but what bipolar disorder sometimes can do, right? And I'm not an expert on, I'm just telling you from a layman's perspective, is that it They can amplify what you already think because you have less control, right? In that moment's that you're having the issues, right? So Kanye already thought those things. In fact, he's been thinking them for a long, long time as we're going to show you.

So but when he's off the medication, he can't contain himself. So he's like, oh my God, I hate, it's the Jews, right? So, but if you didn't think it was the Jews in the first place, you never would have said that because it wouldn't even be in your mind. So he's all of those things. Yes, he's got mental health issues and he should get back on a medication and therapy. And the people around him are months. for enabling him getting off the drugs, okay?

Also, he's deeply unintelligent, doesn't understand anything in the world. And number three, he's hateful. So it's a toxic combination of all three things. The other thing I wanted to just quickly bring up is, you know, watching his interview with Tucker Carlson, I couldn't help but notice this ongoing theme throughout the conversation, which was this person's being controlled, that person's being controlled.

But, you know, at least in the context of that interview, He didn't, he wasn't as overt as he was in his tweet here. But get a load of what he had to say about his ex-wife, Kim Kardashian. Again, being controlled. Who is she being controlled by? Let's watch. Kim is a Christian, but she has people who want her to go to interview magazine and put her ass out while she's a 40-something-year-old multi-billionaire with four black children. And this is how fashion wants to, how they want to present her.

You know, there's so many things that are put in Kim's head. You know, they bring influencers like no one ever know where Corey Gamble came from. No one in the fashion world knows where Gabby came from. These people were practically made in a laboratory, in my opinion. And one of the things that they're really good at doing is being nice and being likable. And what they do is for people that have some form of influence, whether it's an educated black woman like my mother that became the head of the English Department of Chicago State University, or whether it's the most influential white woman on the planet, being my ex-wife,

they have people that are around them at all times telling them what to be afraid of. So what is he taught, does he not know that his ex-wife's career literally started with a sex tape? I mean, I guarantee you, there's no one in Kim's ear, aside from maybe her mom, telling her you need to go out there and you sell your sex appeal to sell product, which is what she does. But that's been the entirety of her career from the very beginning. Yeah, so she showed her ass in that interview in that print article. that Kaini is referring to, which makes it different than any other day, how? That's literally the entirety of her career. No, but you don't get it, Jank.

Kim is actually a Christian. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Kim is a Christian. Now remember though, but look at that, though. He's separating her from other people who are not Christian. Kim's a good Christian. She happened to leak her own sex tape, but, but, you know, good Christian. But it was the Jews who probably made her do it, right?

I mean, and it was the Jews who made her show her as. It was the Jews who made her make a billion dollars. By the way, if it's true, she should be thanking them profusely. Jesus Christ, can the Jews help me out with a billion dollars? It's absurd, it's not the Jews. It's so stupid to think that. And guys, look, I mean, do I have to explain this? And apparently I do, because tons of people in the country don't get it.

The people in one religious group or racial group are not the same. There's a giant variety from intelligence. to unintelligent, from working hard to not working hard, from people who have empathy to people who have no empathy. And you think that they're one monolith, that they email each other, like, that they're like, hey, what do you think? How should we control Kim Kardashian? Come on.

It's insane. But I got to get to a few other elements of the story, because what's also insane is the way the media has chosen to write their headlines about what Kanye West said. Listen, the reason why I emphasize that this is not alleged anti-Semitism is because it's not that easy to decipher what he intended to communicate. The new BMO ViPorter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points.

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It is anti-Semitic. What he said, declaring war on Jewish people is anti-Semitism 101. But you go to Reuters, let's go to Graphic 5 here. Kanye West's Twitter, Instagram accounts, restricted after alleged anti-Semitic posts. Just please, man, be journalists, don't be cowards. I mean, it is unbelievable. Like, what exactly would someone need to say for Reuters to deter. that it's not alleged anti-Semitism, that it's just anti-Semitic.

What would you need to say? Apparently declaring DeathCon 3 on Jewish people is not enough. Alleged, we don't know. You decide. Well, obviously the correct answer is DeathCon 4. If he'd said that, that's definitely anti-Semitic. Look, guys, I want to make some distinctions, right? So unfortunately, the word anti-Semitic has been thrown around in politics too much, right?

So anytime that anybody disagreed with someone who was usually right-winger, et cetera, they'd be called anti-Semitic, right? So you have an honest disagreement on foreign policy issues about Turkey, you don't get called anti-Turkish. But if you have an honest disagreement about foreign policy issues with Israel, you get called anti-Semitic. Now, do those people actually believe you're anti-Semitic? Not at all.

They're just using it as a way to bludgeon their political opponents. And almost always it's the right wing that does that, right? So even with Kaye, so they said, for example, when he did the Tucker Carlson interview, he talked about how Jared Kushner was manipulating things inside the White House to make money. And they're like, oh, that is anti-Semitic. I'm like, well, that one I'm not sure is anti-Semitic because Trump did the same thing. Trump also manipulated things to make money. And he's not Jewish, he's Christian, right?

So I don't want to, I don't want people to get, think that, oh, we're just saying everything is anti-Semitic, everything is racist. No, not at all. In fact, we draw those decisions more than anybody does. But when you say you're going to death con three against on Jewish people, That is not subtle, that is not political, that's not anything but completely 100% anti-Semitic. Stop being neutral to monsters. Absolutely. And there are some who are neutral, others who aren't neutral at all, and they're very obvious

about it, Fox News, their tweet, I love the quotation marks here. Yay locked out of Twitter due to violation of policies. I mean, it's, it's Fox, that's Fox News 101. And later in the show, we're going to get into some of the other reactions coming from right wingers, coming from actual politicians who want to provide cover for the anti-Semitism. So stick around. We'll be back in a few minutes with that story and more. All right, back on TYT, Jank, Anna.

And all you wonderful folks, Anna, what do you got for us? Well, unfortunately, more Kanye-related news. If you are an honest person, you did not think this tweet was anti-Semitic. You did not think that he wrote this tweet because he hates or wants to genocide Jewish people. This is not represent the beginning of the Holocaust. That's if you're an honest person, you'll meet that. You will admit that, right? There you have Candace Owens, providing cover for the very clear anti-Semitic tweet that Kanye

West put out into the world over the weekend. For those of you who might have missed the tweet, I don't know how you could have. I'll read it to you. And then you can decide whether or not this sounds anti-Semitic to you. He wrote, I'm a bit sleepy tonight, but when I wake up, I'm going DeathCon 3 on Jewish people. No, not anti-Semitic. Oh, no, how would you interpret it that way? Candace?

Wait until you get a little more of her disgusting argument. But let me continue with this tweet where he wrote, the funny thing is I actually can't be anti-Semitic because black people are actually Jew also. You guys have toyed with me and tried to blackball anyone whoever opposes your agenda. Okay, let's just be clear, that is anti-Semitism, period. That's all it is. That's like the definition of anti-Semitism. Exactly. I'm gonna go to war against all Jewish people.

They secretly control everyone. control everyone okay and refer to them as Jew right I mean that's the least offensive out of all of them but if you can't tell look if you say that's not anti-Semitic it's super obvious that you're anti-Semitic yes plain as day so with that said let's hear from one anti-Semite providing cover for another anti-Semite if you're an honest person when you read this tweet you had no idea what the hell he was talking about. I had, I had no idea when I read this tweet, what the hell he was talking about. This tweet inspired questions, not answers. First and foremost, what is death con

three? Did he mean death con three, which would be a military defense position, not an offense, for those of who that are offended, a military defense position? Is he tweeting this because he's reading the Newsweek headline, calling him an anti-Semitic? Is he angry because he can't I can't believe that he's not free to talk about people in his life who happen to be Jewish, right, without being accused of anti-semitism. Is he saying, I'm not going to shut up and I'm going to keep tweeting and I'm going to keep calling these people out, referring to his friends that he feels slighted by? Is he talking about Jerry Kushner and Josh Kushner? If you're a liar, you'll say, I know I was scared, Candace. I actually thought that Kanye West was going to launch a military strike in Israel.

Is there anything more laughable than Candice Owens being the arbiter of who is and is not an honest person? Really? Yeah, no, but that was hilarious. I mean, you got to give a credit for that, right? Don't, DefCon 3 is just a defensive position. We're just asking questions. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what he means by DeathCon 3. It could be a pleasant thing. Maybe DeathCon 3, they come over and give you a massage and go right in on a unicorn. You don't know. Maybe it's just a trip to the day spa. Maybe that's what he meant. Maybe he meant he was just going to take Jewish people to the day spa with him. Yeah. Yeah, come on. She knows. She knows. She knows. She's a raging anti-Semite. And by the way, at the end, she mentions Israel. What does Israel have to do with any of this?

She also mentions the Kushner's in that argument. Oh, he felt slighted by his friends, because in the context of the Tucker Carlson interview, Kanye West was very hurt that Jared Kushner's brother, I believe, had a larger stake in Kim Kardashian's skim's company than he did. Like, it's insane. All of this is insane. But look, the reason I want to bring this up, the cover that's being provided for, again, very transparent anti-Semitism is, look, do I think that Kanye West has the power to literally wage a physical war against Jewish people? No. But for anyone who's minimizing this by making that argument, let me just say, we all know what's happening in this country right now, okay? I wasn't born yesterday. I'm very in tune to what the current

political climate is in the United States, where political violence is front and center, where Christian nationalism is rising, where you literally have people who say, who cares about the Constitution, we should force our religion on everyone in this country, a country that is supposed to have a separation of church and state. And let me also remind you that anti-Semitic hate crimes and attacks have increased quite a bit since 2016. In fact, 15 years prior to 2016, anti-Semitic hate crimes had actually gone down year after year. 2016 there was a spike and the numbers continue to increase and how could you forget to 2018 there was a gunman who entered the tree of life synagogue and and like gun down 11 Jewish people

killed them murdered them but they all want to pretend like this doesn't exist right that this doesn't have any repercussions doesn't have any consequences they they know she knows Kanye West knows. Tucker Carlson certainly knows. But they love the plausible deniability. What? What? I don't know. I mean, I just have questions. What could he have possibly met by DeathCon 3? I'm really dumb. I'm a moron. No, you're a massive grifter. And yes, on some issues, you're incredibly dumb, as was evident in various hearings that included Candace Owens, not even knowing just basics about the Holocaust, for instance. But it's just incredible to me that this is where we are as a country where you have

a major public figure with a major platform literally declaring DeathCon 3 on Jewish people. And then I knew this was going to happen. All of the grifter scurrying to his defense immediately. And there's some Republican officials we get to in a sec too. But look guys, the context is what's most important here. So are they going to be dumbass anti-Semites and other kinds of hateful people in the country? Of course there are. in this country of 330 million people. That's not the question. The question is how do other people react around him, right?

So this is the kind of anti-semitism is the kind of thing that once you, once it comes out of the bottle, it's hard to put the genie back in, okay? Because what Kai is beginning to do what Trump did with racism, but for anti-Semitism. He's giving people permission to come out of the hate closet, right? So now, when he does it, if everybody comes and says, oh, no, that's wrong, don't do that, that's hateful, that's, and obviously ignorant, et cetera. That's one thing. Hey, look, then we sent the opposite message, right?

But when people wink and nod, and it's not just Kanye, but it's others saying, whoa, what? What's the big deal? What's the big deal? The implicit thing there is, what's already in the right winger's minds, which is the Jews control everything. Now, why do I say it's in the right wingers mind? Is that fair? So look, here's the context.

When Trump started peaking in 2015, I had David Duke on the show to interview him, right? on the conversation because I wanted to find out what do the radicals think what do the most hateful people in the country think why did they love Trump so much Duke comes out here I thought he's going to talk about immigrants Latinos Muslims and center no never talked about it everything was the Jews the Jews the Jews and I was like whoa okay so that's back then we talked to Walter Masterson who's a great comic who dress up as Q&N or MAGA and goes and interviews them he says when you turn off the camera every one of them says it's the Jews okay now then I had Q&N

on people on and they talked about hey you know they're drinking the blood of babies and I was like oh my god that's blood liable they've been saying that about Jews for thousands of years that didn't pop out of nowhere right and and almost all the Q&N people unfortunately are fundamentalist Christians right so it's it's religion that is driving and it's guys do not take it like don't think that oh it's all Christians don't be as stupid as they are of course not it's weirdo wacko fundamentalist Christians that are hateful that are driving this. But anti-Semitism is back. It is. I mean, I think that it's been here. It's been dormant in that people, look. Norms matter. Norms matter. Culture matter. Norms matter.

And when the dominant culture in a country is like resistant to and flat out hostile toward anti-Semitism, well, that's when the anti-Semitism, you know, lurk in the shadows because their ideology isn't normalized. What we're seeing today is the normalizing of the same type of fascist ideology that led to the Holocaust. Look, we don't have to wait until we boil to death, okay? The water's boiling. And at this point, we need to make a decision as frogs, whether we're going to jump out

of that boiling pot or not. Yeah, and so two more things about how they used to have plausible deniability. They would use code words. George Soros is a giant code word. They wouldn't say donors because most of the donors are Christian, right? So you've got the guys who are the frackers, you've got the Koch brothers, you've got Bursors, et cetera. But they always say George Soros.

Why? Because he's Jewish. In fact, Emma Viglin, back when she was a TYT, interviewed one of the Trump fan, and I remember, this is the largest tattoo I've ever seen. Half this guy's back was George Soros as a puppeteer. Another old school anti-Semitic trope that they're the puppeteers that control things. And that's what Kanye is saying 24-7. He's letting that genie out of the bottom.

The other code word they used was global elites. So Trump, you put that in half his ads in 2016, and he won, right? The global elites like George Soros are controlling things behind the scenes. See, these are the code words. But now, Kanye has done something very dangerous. Like Trump did with racism, he's now gotten rid of the code words and he's just saying. He's just saying it. And when he says it outright like that, it makes people think, oh, is it okay?

Can I say it too? So apparently it's okay. Because Kaye has a lot of fans, right? And now when he, then people take it, the platforms like Twitter and Instagram take it down, then people think, oh, is he being censored because it's true. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. So like whether you take him off the platforms or you don't, now it looks like either way, it's feeding into the anti-savitism that already existed.

So it's an epic disaster. So everybody who piles on to excuse it and apologize for it and make it seem normal and okay is making the situation infinitely worse. Now I want to get to actual politicians, people with political power, including Indian Attorney General who decided to defend Kanye West, well, it was prior to him reading Kanye's anti-Semitic tweet, but I think what he said after he was made aware of Kanye's anti-Semitic tweet is actually really important. So this is, again, Indiana's Attorney General Todd Rokita. And so first he had tweeted in this thread, the constant hypocrisy from the media

as is at an all time high. They have now gone after Kanye for his new fashion line, where of course he was wearing a shirt titled White Lives Matter, okay, and his independent thinking and for having opposing thoughts from the norm of Hollywood. Listen, Kanye West is allowed to have whatever political thoughts he has. We're also allowed to have political views. And so if I think his White Lives Matter shirt is stupid and racist, I get to share that opinion, and if right wingers want to wither and cry about it,

they can go ahead and do it. But free speech goes both ways, okay? So if you can't handle our free speech, then maybe get out of the game because you can't handle it. But let me continue. He writes, Kanye's message in this instance is fair and accurate. And regardless, he is entitled to his opinion. The media will steamroll anyone if they do not countow to their way of thinking.

So at some point, he was made aware that, you know, Kanye had tweeted that anti-Semitic tweet calling for DeathCon 3 on Jewish people. And pay attention to the wording here. Todd Rokita writes, my post was specifically and clearly aimed at the hypocrisy of the media in Hollywood elites, not anything to do with other comments. I have an obvious, clear, and substantial congressional and public record of being 100% supportive of the Jewish community. community and Israel. Let's pause for a second. Notice that there was no condemnation of what Kanye had said. Zero. None, none. He never condemned the anti-Semitic tweet from Kanye. All he did was say, I hadn't seen it. And, you know, I love funneling taxpayer money to the right wing government of Israel. So obviously, I'm good. No, you're not. You're not.

So in both the comments he made before he found out about the anti-semitic tweet and after, he keeps referring to the Hollywood elites and the norms of Hollywood and the media making people tout to things. That's the coded language before Kanye flat-out said it, right? And he still doesn't condemn Kanye. By the way, this is the same guy that's trying to pursue charges against a doctor who did the abortion on the 10-year-old? Rape victim.

Rape victim, 10-year-old rape victim. And he's like, how dare you help her? And he tried to pursue the guy who helped her. So this guy's a monster through and through, okay, total piece of crap. But I want to say one other thing about what both him and Candace said. They bring up Israel out of nowhere, right? Hey, knuckleheads, the Jews that live in America are not Israelis. They're Americans.

But look at the mindset. They view them as the other, right? Oh, what, Jewish people? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I give mine. to Israel through the government? Sure, yeah. No, no, no, no, Jews live here. They're Americans. They're 100% Americans. They're us, not them, but they don't view it that way. And that's one of the many problems for these right wingers as they go around basically excusing what Kanye said. Well, I want to, I know this is a very dark, gross story. And I do want to give some credit

to people who spoke out in the right way, including AOC. Before, Before we go to her tweet though, one of the most, in my opinion, underrated Twitter accounts is the New York Times pitch bot, which is a satirical New York Times account, like making fun of the kinds of headlines they write for stories. It's not a New York Times account, to be fair. It's not a New York Times account, it's a satirical account to poke fun at the New York Times. Okay. And in regard to the way the media has been framing this, they write, there is no constitutional

prohibition against going DeathCon 3 on the Jews. So Twitter had no legal right to delete Kanye West purportedly anti-Semitic tweet. And then they quoted Jonathan Turley. But obviously Jonathan Turley didn't say that. It was just satire because of just how pathetic the media frames these kinds of stories. I mean, with Reuters refusing to just flat out call the anti-Semitic tweet anti-Semitic and using the word alleged anti-Semitism instead. By the way, NBC News is the same thing. So they were, you know, having fun with it, but it turns out, no, the media actually did do it. That's why it's a good account, because it pokes fun at the media in accurate ways. And I do want to just quickly read AOC's tweet on the matter. And let me just

note, I mean, I didn't see any, I might have missed it, but I didn't really see this outpour of support for the Jewish community coming from members of Congress, even Democratic members of Congress. That's why AOC's tweet stood out. She wrote, There's absolutely no room in this country or world for anti-Semitism. It is important to see how harmful and dangerous Kanye's words are, not only to our Jewish brothers and sisters and siblings, but also to our collective society at large. We must reject this wherever we see it. So I just want to give her credit for saying what every single member of Congress should

have said. But really, I fail to see a concerted response condemning the disgusting statement by Kanye was. Well, I mean, look, it's just real quick, guys. When Ilhan Omar criticized lobbyists for Israel, the world collapsed in on her, right? So the right wing all put out statements. How dare Al-Han Omar degrading our poor lobbyist friends? We love those lobbyists, right? And they just condemned her at 100 miles an hour.

Where are they now? Nothing on Kanye. And he said death con three to all Jewish people. And by the way, Democratic leadership also piled on Ilhan Omar. Yep. But where are they now? I mean, I'm sure they put out statements, probably doing fundraising off of it, et cetera. They don't seem nearly as agitated.

So it's really disgusting the reaction that it's getting overall. And to be fair, most decent people that are of course wildly against it, totally against it. And you're also seeing that too. It's just that the people in power are surprisingly quiet on this issue. When we come back from the break, we'll talk a little bit about local politics here in Los Angeles, but there is a point to it. Explosive leaked audio featuring three city council members engaging in some of the most disgusting racist remarks about a two-year-old black child. I'm not even kidding. That and more coming right up.

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The president of the Los Angeles City Council, Nuri Martinez, has stepped down as the president of the body following a leak of an audio recording from nearly a year ago where she makes some pretty gross racist remarks about family members of one of her colleagues and also says terrible things about specifically Wahakins in Korea town. Now we have examples for you to listen to, but first some context to understand what the backdrop of the conversation was. Martinez and the other Latino leaders, there were at least two

other city council members present during this conversation. During the tape conversation, we're seemingly unaware they were being recorded as Martinez said a white council member handled his young black son, a two-year-old, by the way, as though he were an accessory, and described councilman Mike Bonnan's son as, uh, parese changuito or like a monkey. Now, the leak tape was originally posted on Reddit and claimed that the labor movement was in bed with City Hall. And the reason why they made that statement is because one of the other individuals present during that conversation was L.A. County Federation of Labor President Ron Herrera.

Now, the group discussed the cities once in once a decade process of redrawing council district boundaries, which was underway at the time, as well as the need to re-elect Latino council members and ensure that heavily Latino districts did not lose economic assets such as USC and the Van Nuys Airport. Now look, having a discussion about wanting to represent the Latino community in L.A., is totally fine. It's the way they went about it. So the people that you're going to hear from is mostly Nuri Martinez, again, now the former president of the L.A. City Council. Kevin De Leon, who's another city council member, Gil Sidio, who's another city council member who has just been voted out. And then you have the LA County Federation of Labor President Ron Herrera.

Now, what we're about to hear about is this dispute. They're discussing a dispute between council members, Curran Price and Marquise Harris Dawson, who were at odds last year over whose district would represent USC and Exposition Park once the new maps were finalized. Okay, so that's what they're talking about. Both men happen to be black and represent parts of South Los Angeles. Martinez told the group that she had a conversation with a businessman,

Danny Bakewell about the situation and argued that if Harris Dawson is seeking an economic asset for his district, he should seek to move Los Angeles International Airport out of Bonin's district and into his. So that's the context. With that said, let's listen to what Nureen Martinez said. So getting back to Marquise, I told Danny, if you want to cut a deal and if you want to make like boss moves, I would go after the airport. He goes, I know that idea. I said, tell him who he said, go take him with his friend. Don't go after, leave him alone. Go get the airport from his little brother, that little bitch bonnet. I go, I go, I goes, what is what the bond?

Where's what born? And I said, Bonn thinks he's a black guy. I don't think he's black to go. He thinks it's not. He's all the same thing. His kid is. He goes, why are they so close? He's from Massachusetts.

His kid, the one here, that's kidding. He's good. Yeah. He used to do in black history, man, or he'll have a council. You know what he's like, it's an accessory. When we do the, I'm on a cave parade. Just like, we're just like one.

They used to have those statues in, like when Norrie brings the girl yard bag or the Louis Vuitton bag in place of future. So they're referring to Bonin's two year old son, who happens to be black as an accessory, and it's about to get a lot worse. But before I get to the rest of the audio jank, any thoughts? Yeah, there's so many terrible things in here. So one's the obvious over the top racism that it's the big headlines.

The second is apparently Vip is a documentary. So behind the scenes, I mean, they say all sorts of terrible things. Yep. I mean, Bonin is gay. And so she called him a little bitch. So there's that too, which is getting very little. attention. So, but maybe they just curse about everybody. I don't mind cursing. I mind any kind of insinuation based on identity, right? But behind the scenes, man, they are no holds barred.

And what's interesting is that like in front of the scenes, they're like so professional and composed and their apology note is so sophisticated. And the media always tells you these are all these are wonderful people. Like they never report on this trash that they say behind the scenes, right? Well, they don't know about the trash. No, no. They don't. They don't know about this specific trash, definitely, to be fair, right? But so none of the reporters know that they talk like this behind the scenes. I'm not talking about the racist stuff. I'm talking about all the other stuff, right?

Massively insulting their own voters, the other council members, et cetera. So I never see that in the press. All I ever see in the press is that the reporters kissing their asses. Okay, so now, we'll get to this a little bit later. But I thought the stuff they said about corruption was actually the most damning. I mean, sure, of course, racism is always the worst, right? But they're openly talking about, oh, what's going to get them more money? They don't like that the progressive members are like against corruption.

And they're mainly talking about real estate interest and how they're going to take money, but they don't want the other people to be a pain in their ass about it. And then if you notice in that clip, they're talking about the economic assets within a district. Yep. Now, you might wonder, like, why? Why does it matter if she has the airport in her district or not? not, right? Don't you want the human beings inside the district? And by the way, politically, it makes sense to go, oh, hey, I want the district to be more Latino because then I'm more likely

to win. I get that. That's practical politics, right? But why do you want the airport? Because the money, LeBowalski. They want the money. Because then you could raise money from the business interests in your district. The entire thing is about corruption. And that's not even noted in any of the stories. Guys, it's hard for anyone who doesn't live in Los Angeles to understand how awful the conditions on the ground happen to be right now. There is garbage literally everywhere, everywhere. People are struggling. There are countless overdose deaths on sidewalks all throughout the county. They don't care about the people of of Los Angeles at all, at all.

And I think that these recordings make that abundantly clear. So let's go to the next one. Later in the conversation, Nure Martinez and Kevin de Leon decide to say more disparaging things about Mike Bonnan's son, who again is a two-year-old and happens to be black. For MLK, for the parade that Herb used to organize and we all the council who wanted to join Herb on the flow, because he used to do a whole photo to be nice, Bonin would be like, Hey, no, are you going to them on here? Well, Herbert, by me, I'll go.

Okay, I'm bringing whatever the kid's name is. I'm like, it's like the oddest thing. It's like black and brown on this flow. And then there's this white guy with this little black kid who's misbehaved. This nino has no, he's, they're not doing, yeah, no, they're not doing, the kid is bouncing off the eff and walls on the flow, practically tipping it over. There's nothing you can do to control him. that is it changito and I'm just like oh my god I'm always here trying to parent this kid and like you can't do that

I said no classy calling a two-year-old child two-year-old black child a monkey that is what she said in that clip yeah by the way she also said insulted white people next she said that the bonnet was raising him like a white kid right and she said I would take him out in the back you got that we actually do have that so let's go to the last clip and then I'll read some other quotes from her later in the video. Let's watch. Mike is like, you know, I'm like, you're not teaching. I'm kidding anything. It's me and carrying a bath on the floor trying to check this. Oh, I guess it's not in that clip. But yeah, she also said in the context of that clip that she wanted to basically take them aside, give him a beating and bring them back.

She said that about a two-year-old kid, about a two-year-old kid. But look, guys. And everyone in that room was like laughing, engaging in that conversation. Not a single person put a stop to it, called it out. Totally, total, business as usual, business as usual. I mean, it's almost like she was trying to do, like, insult bingo, right? Because she's insulting white people there by saying they can't control their kids. But she's also insulting Latinos by saying, hey, the right way to do it is to beat your kids,

and that's the Latino way. Now, don't get me wrong, I know the old school that there was more spankings and beatings, et cetera. I'm Turkish state. Happened in the old country, too. So I'm not unaware of that. But like, she's the president of the city council. She's like, oh, Latinos beat their kids, and that's awesome. And white people don't beat their kids, and that sucks.

Let alone the racist comments about the black kid to begin with, I mean, it's just a night. there was more in this conversation. So the group then questioned whether Chateau Place, a small street in Lafayette Park are in Koreatown. Okay, so I see a lot, this is so disgusting. I see a lot of little short, dark people, Martinez said, of that section of Korea town, employing stereotypes long used against Wahakins in Mexico and in the United States. I was like, I don't know where these people are from, she said. I don't know what village they came from. How they got here, Martinez said, before adding tantalos, which means they're ugly.

Okay, these are voters. They're talking about the community that they're supposed to be representing. Oh, they're ugly. I don't know what village they came from or where they came from. Now, I think you're pretty ugly. I mean, what you're saying, who you are, that makes you ugly. Okay, it's unbelievable. Martinez also said, F that guy, he's with the blacks while speaking about Los Angeles

County District Attorney George Gascon. He's with the blacks. I mean, that's how they think. They're in the Los Angeles City Council. He's the president or once. Okay, so look, guys, one more thing. There's racism within ethnic groups too. So in Cuba, a lot of times, the lighter looking folks were race against the black Cubans.

Right? In Latino communities, unfortunately, some of the, again, lighter skin folks and the ones that could trace their heritage back to European ancestors, oftentimes discriminated against natives in Latin America, South America, etc. And you see an excellent example of that here. So even against other Latinos, she's like, oh, they're short and dark and ugly. They're not as tall and light as she is, apparently. And so it's just disgusting in every way possible. So it sounds like good news, Anna, that she's. step down from being president of the city council? Not really, because she played a little trick. Stepping down as president of the city council doesn't mean that she's no longer in the city council. She has not resigned from the city council. And so I do want to read her, you're right, they all put out sophisticated apologies. Gil Sidio made a point about like, I didn't intervene to stop this conversation and that is a heavy cross to bear like oh please spare me spare me your nonsense about how bad you feel right we it was a mask off moment listening to that audio but here's what Nuri Martinez said quote I ask for forgiveness from my colleagues and from the residents of this

city that I love so much I love them so much that I say tantos if they happen to be part of you know come from part of the part of Mexico that I don't like in the end it is not my Apologies that matter most, it will be the actions I take from this day forward. I hope that you will give me the opportunity to make amends. Hell no. Therefore, effective immediately, I am resigning as president of the Los Angeles City Council. So it's a great trick. So first of all, media eats that stuff up.

They're like, oh, what a great sophisticated apology. Now we can call things even again. Okay. And second of all, yeah, it makes it sound like she's resigning. She's not resigning. She's just giving up the top post, right? And so, no, do you want her representing people in L.A.? Where she thinks, oh, they're with the blacks?

And so for everybody else in that room, guys, look, you know, one or two jokes, off-color jokes, maybe you guys are friends, and maybe you're even friends with other city council people, but you guys razz each other back and forth. But that, it didn't sound like it, right? But when she says, they're with the blacks, if I was in a meeting with Progressive, And somebody said that, I'd be like, wait, well, hold up, hold up. What do you mean? Aren't we all with the blacks and the whites and the everybody?

We're supposed to be representing the insanely diverse community of Los Angeles County. Right. Very diverse. So if you have issues with pretty much everyone other than, I mean, Nuri Martinez, who do you like? She's going after white people, black people, Mexicans. Who do you like Nuri Martinez? Other than that cold hard cash, she likes that. Yeah, she loves the real estate donors.

She loves those economic assets in her district. That is an incredible view into how politicians actually think. Do not let the mainstream media lie to you and tell you that they're respectable, honorable, honest people. Behind the scenes, this is what they are, the money, the money. And then the way that she views people and no one objects throughout the entire thing in strictly racial terms is amazing. like that's that's actually who she is and she can't be in that office legislating that way that's not a slip up it's not an accident it's an hour long tape of racial assumption after racial assumption and meanwhile just like where's the money and and by the way right wingers

they could criticize white right wingers I criticize all the time guys racism is not just about white people a non white people can also be racist if nobody's trying to, if you're not racist, we're not getting at you for being white. That's crazy. That's also racist, right? So you see here a Latina who's being over the top racist. So yes, it exists in every group. Yeah, with absolutely no self-awareness about how under her leadership, L.A. has completely devolved. I mean, it's amazing. Anyway, we got to take a break. When we come back for the second hour of the show, we'll talk about right-wing thugs who can't handle comedy they dislike.

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