The Young Turks - Reigning Trump In
Episode Date: August 15, 2024Nikki Haley urges Republicans to ""quit whining"" and focus on winning instead of ""talking about what race Kamala Harris is"" to the Trump campaign. JK Rowling and Elon Musk are named in the Imane Kh...elif cyberbullying lawsuit. Rep. Ilhan Omar will win the primary in Minnesota and break the ""squad"" losing streak. Dozens of pregnant women, some bleeding or in labor, are turned away from ERs despite federal law. Audio of J.D. Vance agreeing postmenopausal women's only role is the help raise kids unearthed. The Trump campaign just tweeted something extremely racist." HOST: Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur), Ben Gleib (@bengleib) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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With me is Mayor of Enfield, North Carolina, Mondale Robinson, also Rebel HQ contributor,
also founder of the Black Voter Project. Mondale, how are you?
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There's more floundering from the Trump side.
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And then there's some online bullies who are finally getting what's coming to them.
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TYT and get access to those bonus episodes. Again, every damn day. We got so much to cover,
but let's just start with this. Now one thing Republicans have to stop, don't quit whining about
her. We knew it was going to be her. Do you think that this campaign is floundering on that point?
I want this campaign to win, but the campaign is not going to win talking about crowd sizes.
It's not going to win talking about what race Kamala Harris is.
It's not going to win talking about whether she's dumb.
It's not, you can't win on those things.
The American people are smart.
Treat them like they're smart.
That was Nikki Haley, a former Republican rival to Donald Trump, who tried to primary him for that top seat, tried to be the president.
presidential nominee of the Republicans, pleading with Donald Trump to switch up his strategy
when it comes to winning in the general. Because if you heard anything she said talking
about race, gender, how she's dumb. Speaking of Kamal Harris, that was actually the line
that Donald Trump used to win against Nikki Haley. So I'm not sure what we're talking about
because it actually won when it came to Republican voters. But again, Trump is trying to appeal to all
voters, two undecided voters, to independent voters. And now we know not only donors are trying
to plead with him to change course, to stop doing this Kamala's not really black routine,
to actually give some policy proposals instead of just personal attacks. And there you have
Nikki Haley doing the same. And again, of course, the crowd sizes. That's also not really hitting
with anybody. But it isn't just Nikki Haley. It's also diehard Trumpers like Peter Navarro, who is
filling in for Steve Bannon recently on his podcast. And Peter, Peter Navarro, fresh out of jail.
I mean, I feel like maybe he's seen the light because here he's also echoing what Nikki Haley said.
Trump doesn't need feast now. He needs votes. And the current rally formula is simply not sufficiently
focused on the very stark policy differences, policy differences between him and Kamala Harris that will swing voters
in key battleground states. Instead, when Trump attacks Harris personally, rather than on policy,
Harris's support among swing voters rises, particularly among women. It's just a fact of life right now.
Unfortunately, women can still vote, but we're working hard every day to make sure they can't.
That was a former advisor, Peter Navarro.
And also former advisor, Kellyanne Conway and Fox News host Larry Cudlow, had similar advice for Donald Trump, if he is listening.
Don't wander off. Don't call her stupid and all kinds of names. Stay on message.
The waiting formula for President Trump is very plain to see. It's fewer insults, more insights,
and that policy contrast. He's got that hunger, swagger, underdog.
underestimated of 2016. Again, I think personal insults to her is not a good idea.
Really, not a good idea. It's a distraction, it's unnecessary, it's soft message.
Hey, Mondale, I have to get you to weigh in here. It's always been about policy over personal
attacks with Donald Trump. Yeah. Is this the same Trump? Who are we talking about?
I'm confused at all about any of this.
They're asking Trump to talk about policies like he did win.
Trump has never had a policy other than name calling.
He's famous for giving people that are running against him names.
Ted Cruz, Joe Biden, the Bush brothers.
It doesn't matter.
Trump has no policies that he can push out other than supremacy.
White supremacy is his policy of choice.
If you're looking for something other than Trump, then you're looking for a different candidate.
There's nothing other Trump can offer as a candidate other than this BS.
And I think it's, I think it's rich for Kellyanne, who was a part of the last administration
and also campaign, and the same for Peter Navarro.
And it's like, what policies are you all looking for when you all are the ones who deployed
Trump to use tactics just like the Willie Horton idea and also that, which was the Southern
strategy?
So you all sold this course and I'm looking for something different now.
Yeah, and a little bit later we'll see like what kind of policy.
they actually have, which is very few and far between, mostly racist anti-immigrant ideas.
But like, this is exactly what won him, the nomination in the first place in 2016, and then
won him the presidency. Also a massive dropping of the ball by the Democratic Party in the
choice of Hillary Clinton, but I digress. He is Trump. This is your guy. So Mondale, I don't
know what we're doing here. It almost sounds like they're either trying to Trump whisper and trying to get
him to change course and teach a dog new tricks, a dog who they worship precisely because he
can't be taught new tricks. And he doesn't have anything other than making fun of the way
people look or calling her not black and said she was just Indian. You know, right? Like,
that's all he's got. It's bluster, it's lying, it's bullying. And then when he's actually
asked about policy, which we've done before and Fox News has said, like, hey, let's talk to our
voters, this biker gang in North Dakota, they should be pretty chill. And a biker gang member's like,
hey, what about housing? And Donald Trump verbatim said, well, we're going to drill, baby drill.
Cool. Do you have a pipeline running through your home? And do you get like money for that?
Because like, if not, I'm pretty sure that was a non-answer. So he doesn't actually have policy.
It's just that his outsider status, his willingness to be that a-hole has buoyed him up until this point.
the fact that he was a massive windfall for the 1% while in office, it's like, I don't know,
come hell or high water, but now they're trying to rain him in. Now the shine is worn off. Also,
he's got 34 felony counts. But let's go to a little bit more reporting of CNN from what it's
like on the inside. A lot of his advisors are apparently blaming the fact that the press has
way too much access to him. They blame unfettered and unrestricted access to the former
president as part of the problem. Proponents of some far-right conspiracy theories have direct
access to Trump, including his personal cell phone, or as members at Mar-a-Lago and his other clubs.
I just love that if you pay enough, he'll just give you his cell phone number, and then you can
text him random YouTube videos about how, you know, Italian satellites were switching votes in
2020. Yes, I'm talking to you, Sidney Powell. They'll regularly call on him or stop by to
engage the former president when he's playing golf for eating dinner. Hey, you investigate the
underground pedophile ring. Okay, have a nice golf game. Sorry. Often, aides and advisors do not
have the full scope of who is in his ear at any given moment. Another source aligned with Trump
described the former president as appearing to be in a spiral, directly referencing his
amplification of multiple conspiracy theories, expressing hope that the former president would regain
focus of it as the new state of the race became clear. There's a lot of us depending on him,
the person said, so he better snap out of it. I mean, Mondale, there is a certain amount of he is
just whining and still piss and can't get over the fact that just a couple weeks ago he was
running against Joe Biden, and now he's running against Kamala Harris. And just, just pivot. Do
your research. Hire the right consultants. I mean, you mentioned Willie Horton. There are a million
ways you can run against Kamala Harris in a bad faith way, in a way the Republicans aren't
sincere about before example. Give you an example. What about somebody who was locked up based on
her truancy policies as attorney general in California? A parent, right, who served jail time.
It happened. It was bad. You could easily lift that person up, pay them some money, put them on
television, and they could talk about how Kamala Harris is a terrible, you know, was like awful to,
you know, a family, right? They're not doing that because they're not smart about this.
They're just stuck in whining.
And to the conspiracy theories, it's the AI is her crowd kind of thing.
Like this is real bottom of the barrel stuff.
Yeah, I think it's bottom of the barrel, but I also think it's this idea.
And what you speak of is not just happening on the Republican parties.
If you remember when the Democrats had a candidate that looked and seemed like Trump,
I, E. Joe Biden, not in policy wise or crazy conspiracy, but in age and stumbling and slurring,
they too were making the same missteps.
What happened is this new candidate that's not a Biden, that's not a Clinton, that's not a Bush, which is basically every ticket for the past 30 or 40 years, then you see this like new breath of excitement of the base.
But what I would argue is what it is, this is a character of, or I should say a characteristic of our political system and how dumb it is. What I mean by dumb is, it's not connected to the people.
They're still running Trump as if it's the 60s.
Like you need that many racist southern folk that you can win an election, not realizing
that America has brown.
Baby boomers, of course, it was 90% white and they were the larger generation.
But now you have 20 million plus baby boomers that are gone.
They're unalive at this point.
And then you have more than that, Ziers that have come online that has voted since 2020,
2016.
They don't even know how to run an election for the electorate.
And I think that is showing up so well when they underestimated how much it meant when you took
a white man off the ballot and you may age a one-sided argument. And they can't combat that
because they're not prepared and they've never seen an electorate or a candidate in this manner.
Yeah, absolutely. And like the hits just aren't hitting, you know, the old racist tropes.
It's like they're going to be there for the diehards, you know, but the band's got to come
out with a new album, you know, and then they don't have anything. They're actually
terrible at playing all instruments and they can't hold a tune. So they only have fear, they only
have division. And honestly, to Harris's credit, I am someone who has massive critiques of her,
her staying on this message of being against divisiveness, being for unity, trying to come together,
and kind of rising above some of these attacks, honestly I think has been really, really
beneficial to her and allowing, let's be real, the white guy that they chose on purpose because
he was a white guy, Tim Walls, to do all the attacking.
Yeah.
Yeah, and the thoughts on that, Mondale.
Yeah, I think the DEI hire of Walls was amazing.
Like, it's like it was perfect. Like, this is, this is great because he is what J.D. Vance play
on TV, minus the couch. He is what Donald Trump try to be, minus the billions of dollars, right?
Like, this is a veteran who is a popular.
this guy who sounds like the so called middle of America that America care so much about.
I think this goes back to the idea of like Donald Trump lacks the discipline to be a candidate
where he has to really run where name calling is not working. He lacks the discipline when the
model that was the apprentice does not work to pick a president. So Mr. Pillar, Kanye West,
and Ice Cube can't save him this election cycle. Yep, that's exactly right. All right, well let's
pivot to this. There's some sweet, hopefully justice coming.
After winning gold, Algerian boxer Imani Khalif is making it clear that victory isn't enough.
She wants justice, particularly after the barrage of hate that she received from high
profile internet trolls, calling her a man, calling her a trans woman. And now she's opened a
lawsuit against them. And we'll talk about exactly who. But first a little bit about her victory,
after she did win gold, and the first boxer to do so for Algeria since 96, and the first
female boxer to do so ever, Imani Khalif wrote, I was born a woman, I lived a woman,
I competed as a woman. There's no doubt about that. The detractors are enemies of success. That is
what I call them. And that also gives my success a special taste because of these attacks.
Well, my honor is intact now, but the attacks I heard on social media were extremely bad
and they're meaningless and they impact the dignity of the people. And I think that now people's
thinking has changed. So she also talked about how, you know, this impacted the dignity of her
family, of her country. And basically how it was, how much fear she felt getting the ire up
and being the target of people like J.K. Rowling, author, and Elon Musk, billionaire and man having
the most public midlife crisis in history. And then, of course, former president Donald Trump.
And we'll get into that. In fact, let's just look at some of the ways. And if you're like,
what was the trolling? Really? Was it really that bad? Come on. Get over it.
hear me when I tell you that J.K. Rowling has been tweeting about nothing else for weeks
now people except in the last few days and we'll get to why. So here's just a sampling of what
J.K. Rowling's been saying about Imani Khalif, tweeting a picture of her like sort of consoling
her opponent, Angela Karini, saying could a picture sum up our new men's rights movement better?
the smirk of a male who knows he's protected by a misogynist sporting establishment.
Enjoying the distress of a woman, he's just punched in the head and whose life is an ambition,
he's just shattered.
Hashtag parrots 2024.
Just the most insane stuff.
Here's something else.
August 7th.
She's tweeting after Khalif wins.
Someone tweets, be kind, they said.
And then a big punch, right?
And then J.K. Rowling, quote, but not to women, they meant.
Effectively, again, calling Khalif not a woman, retweeting Riley Gaines.
Again, that noted transphobe saying Imani Khalif is an Olympic finalist contending for gold medal in women's boxing as a male.
Why have women's sports at all if any mediocre man can compete in them?
I have so many things to say about this, but she retweeted it.
It's ridiculous. It's despicable.
It's insulting to women's sports.
It's insulting to women's athletes, to female athletes, not to mention trans people.
And then, of course, Elon Musk also actually retweeted a Riley Gaines tweet and said,
absolutely, in response to men don't belong in women's sports, I stand with Angela Karini.
Again, Angela Karini was out by a second punch in the first round.
Why?
Because she was losing to a gold medalist, and Monique L took the gold.
But because of all that hate, she's also got a case.
And on Wednesday, her attorney, Nabil Boudi, excuse me, said they had filed a criminal complaint over alleged acts of cyber harassment to the Paris Public Prosecutor's Office on Friday.
The Paris Prosecutor's Office said it received Burroughs' complaint on August 4th, and agents from the National Unit for the fight against online hate are investigating the alleged offenses, including death threats, public provocations aimed at attacking a person and cyberbullying.
Now, under French law, the crimes, if proven, carry prison sentences that range from two to five years and fines ranging from 30,000 to 45,000 euros.
And oh yeah, the lawyer added that the complaint mentions by name. Figures two, famous figures J.K. Rowling and Elon Musk are named in the lawsuit, among others, he said, adding that Donald Trump could also be part of the investigation.
Here is something Trump trothed during all of this.
I will keep men out of women's boards.
That is, sorry, that's graphic 10 for you.
He's going to be looked into as a part of this investigation, said Nabil Boudi, the attorney for Imani Khalif.
And again, there was comments like this, that Trump just sort of rattled off.
This is the number one of the many recent campaign events that he's done where he has invoked or referenced.
Imani Khalif, here you go.
And I'd like to congratulate the young woman who transitioned from a man into a boxer.
You saw he won, she won the gold medal.
It's crazy what they're doing.
And this person won the gold medal.
Did they win the gold medal today?
What do you think of that, Tim?
I don't think Tim.
And she wants it.
She wants men to play in women's sports.
And that she that he is referencing, of course.
he is referencing, of course, is now Vice President Kamala Harris, his new opponent in this race.
But Mondale, I just like I'm so excited for this lawsuit.
I've never been more excited for a lawsuit.
Even the Trump lawsuits, I'm not that excited about.
I'm excited about this boxer, this gold, Olympic gold medalist, this champion, getting
some actual justice for the insane amount of hate that she faced.
Yeah, you know, I mean, beyond the lawsuit, I'm glad that French law allows for criminal
charges to be applied to hate crimes. And this is a form of hate crime, you know, even if it's
about your origin or about your gender, this is all what's about to be handled. And I think
that, and in doing that, they also have the ability to reach across the water. So even America
has agreed that French laws can investigate American citizens when they break these hate
crime laws. So I'm super excited about that. And because they
they name Twitter in the lawsuit, it gives them the right, talking about Khalif and her attorney,
the right to go out to anybody on Twitter, not just Elon Musk, not just J.K. Rowland, who are named.
And people that may think that, oh, it's just, it's just named calling on Twitter.
J.K. Rowland has 14.2 million viewers, and Elon Musk owned the damn algorithm to talk
this person and all of that hate. So when people say, oh, well, they can't control people's action,
you absolutely can. And you just sway people. I am at this person.
disgusted that this person who should be celebrating that she's the first woman ever from our country to reach gold and win at the Olympic stage.
I am disgusted by that. Plus people continue to forget that athletes, Olympic athletes are ambassadors.
We are treating an ambassador like this. I hope the full arm of the law, all of it, make these people pay not just financially, but also criminally because it's absolutely disgusting.
And for gains to, I don't even refer to her as an athlete because she's sold out athletes in a way.
that Vance sold out other veterans when he opened his mouth about walls.
And I can't take it as a veteran and how disgusting I feel about this.
So I have to know how Khali feels about gangs joining in on this horrible, horrible parade of sickness.
Yeah. And she has given some limited interviews saying that, yeah, she was afraid.
I mean, this is like some of the most powerful people in the world and definitely the biggest
platforms. And J.K. Rowling known transphobe, right? And if she sicks her eye on you,
If you're in the crosshairs of Donald Trump, oh, yeah, the death threats, right?
All the things that we probably didn't see, the people in the DMs, the people, you know,
contacting, you know, whatever, like her offices, like whoever, finding her, right?
Like, who knows?
But you're totally right about Gaines, right?
You know, Riley Gaines turning her loss or tie with a trans athlete into, like, her clarion
call is just so sad.
She's saying, why have women's sports at all if any mediocre male can compete in them?
Mondale, what does that say about women's sports writ large?
You really think, and this is the thing that transphobes think.
They think that any guy off the street can waltz into a boxing match and just beat a boxer simply because they're female.
That's what they think.
Like, that they think that men were all born Olympic boxers, number one, and they can walk in there and just beat a woman.
And like, that as a woman is the most denigrating, disgusting thing I have ever heard.
It shows you don't care about women's sports at all.
And again, I am someone who absolutely stands by if and when there are trans athletes
who BT-dubs have been barred from participating in the Olympics, already been barred for
everyone who says they haven't been barred, they have been, I happen to believe that they
should be able to play.
I happen to believe that we should stand with them.
But in the meantime, what is happening is it's, it's, it's, it's.
created an air of misogyny, of genital policing, of trying to accuse everyone with broad
shoulders of being a trans woman, and we all need to stand together in solidarity against it.
Yeah, and I think it's also absolutely disgusting that no one, all of these people,
J.K. Rawlins, Elon Musk, Donald Trump had nothing to say when an Irish woman boxer beat
this woman boxer that is now gold medal. No one had anything to say about that.
And you're absolutely right. It is absolutely anti-woman to say that,
A man can beat a woman just because they're a men.
When we see people like Louise Stevens knocking brothers out in practice,
I'm just disgusted how they're trying to make this gains about women when it's not about women.
It's about you lost and can't swallow it.
You losing and you're trying to make it like it's a woman's right issue when you're going against this woman to prove that you don't give a damn about other women at all.
Yeah, 100%.
All right. Well, let's take our first break.
When we come back, some good news finally for election results.
BRB.
Welcome back to TYT, Francesca Fiorentini, Mondale Robinson, and let's get into the good news with this.
one of the ugliest, most disgusting campaign against me that I've ever witnessed.
We had an opponent that was willing to align with literal Nazis in order to defeat us.
We had an opponent that weaponized and scandalized.
My husband, my daughter, my dead father.
No, no.
Representative Ilhan Omar successfully beat
primary challenger Don Samuels in Minnesota's fifth.
This is the third time she has done so for her seat.
Again, she is a progressive squad member and there she is talking about
just how dirty of a campaign this was, attacks on her husband,
husband, on her daughter, and on her deceased father, in fact.
She of course has historically throughout her entire time in Congress been targeted for being
Muslim, for wearing hijab, and of course now for calling for a ceasefire in Gaza.
She has been one of the most outspoken proponents of peace and truly just, honestly just
an inspiration to so many of us.
But this time around in this election, although previous elections she had had had.
massive Israeli lobby money spent against her, specifically through A-PAC.
This time it didn't come. There was a lot of funds, but not in the same way and not in the same
way that we saw against representatives Corey Bush and Representative Jamal Bowman, who had
18 million and 25 million, excuse me, respectively spent on their races, two of the most
expensive primary races in American history. But according to CNN, the United Democracy Project,
which is a super PAC aligned with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, APEC,
that has spent tens of millions targeting other progressive Democrats this cycle, did not engage
in the race. APAC directly spent about 25,000 on digital ad campaigns last year targeting
Omar, an outspoken critic of Israel, but it has not been active in the 2024 contest.
Again, there was still referencing her point there in the beginning where she said that my opponent would even ally with themselves with white nationalists.
There was a group and there was donations from pro-Israel supporters.
There was a leak of that group chat that thanks to the intercept we have seen.
And in it, a wealthy entrepreneur who actually lives in Puerto Rico, who raised $120,000 for Samuels' campaign through his pack, make a day.
difference Minnesota. His name is Michael Sineski. He said this in that group chat, quote,
the bottom line is, and it's a sad one, we need to be supportive on a presidential level of the
alt-right Christian neo-Nazis at the moment to fight off the socialist, Marxist, anarchists who are
supporting radical Islam. Nazis are better than Islamic terrorists at this moment in time for
president. On the state and city level, it's different as proof with us supporting Richie
and Federman, a reference to Pennsylvania, Senator John Federman and then Richie Torres.
This is just wild, but before I could get to you, Mondale, on why Ilhan Omar was successful in this campaign.
It's also important to know that she did have support from Minnesota's junior senator, Tina Smith.
In other words, the call wasn't coming from within the building, trying to unseat her, along with her predecessor, former representative Keith Ellison, who is now the state's attorney general.
Mondale, what is your assessment for why Ilhan Omar was able to pull this out?
I've seen a lot of takes.
I've seen the takes the fact that she was a state senator or a state representative right before
becoming elected to Congress.
She had maybe more support, more backing.
Maybe APEC ran out of money.
What do you make of her being able to shirk this primary challenger?
I mean, listen, there are stark differences between.
between Bowman's district in New York,
also Bush's district in Missouri,
and then also this district in Minnesota.
First of all, this fifth district,
the support of Keith Ellison means a lot.
People might sleep on that.
That used to be his district before he.
And that district actually is one of the highest
performing turnout wise voting districts in this country,
congressional district in this country.
That matters when you look at the low turnout
of black and brown people in Bush's race first and also
Bowman's race, then the amount of money, $14.5 million was spending in Bowman's race and nearly
$20 million in Bush race against them by APEC. That means a lot, especially in a state like
New York, where you have to be registered almost a year before you could participate in the primary.
So I think all of those are factors, but I will also go and say that the campaign ran by Ilhan
Omar was different than that ran by Jamal Bowman. I reached out to Bowman early on in this year.
Like this, you have 30,000 black men in your district that you can't afford not to participate that have been sitting on elections and they, you know, using the Justice Democrat is not going to work.
It's not work in the past.
And we see the ramifications when you're running these campaigns that are add heavy, but not knocking on doors in the way that they should.
All of those are factors in this in the outcome of this election.
Yeah, yeah.
And just a plug for the black male voter project that Mondale has, you know, launched.
And I think that's really that that's some tough love.
That's really important to remember.
Here is sort of what Ilhan Omar was touting to her constituents.
Take a look at part of her ad.
She passed the Meals Act to feed school kids and brought $54 million right here to our community.
To create food security, affordable housing, healthcare access, environmental projects, and living wage jobs.
So there you go, you're right, talking about food security, housing.
you know, access to jobs and whatnot environmental projects had a specific sum of money that was laid out there.
That's important. And now granted, she has been in Congress for longer. She has more time to be able to deliver on those wins.
But it is really important to stay in your district. You know, it's hard to even say, Mondale, because for me, like, I can backseat this.
You know, I don't know what it is to run for Congress and to maintain your congressional seat and to run up against so much hate and so much.
you know, so many lies told about you, but you know, I could say like, oh, you got to spend
more time in the district. I don't even know what that means when you're staring down
$18 million spent against you and 35 in Bowman's case. But it's just, it's just hard.
I mean, another thing maybe that helped Omar out, and she did put this on her website with
it, was that Joe Biden endorsed her, liked her. She highlighted on her website a quote from
Biden saying Congresswoman Omar, I want to thank you for being here. Biden said during a
2023 visit to Minnesota, you never stop working to level the playing field for everybody,
and you make sure no child goes hungry. So that's something. And yes, we did not see
that same level of support for Cory Bush and for Jamal Bowman. But I am so glad that
Congresswoman Omar has maintained her seat and that we still have a voice for peace, you know,
representing us.
Yeah, I think it's also important to note that, you know, it also matters that, you know,
we have, we have these outstanding voices and we don't do what we, what we, what we
what we know is problematic for our candidates or our vulnerable candidates.
And what I mean by that is, if you look back what we were doing, i.e. Nancy Pelosi's
picking California for Senate, paying, using Republican money to support the candidate running
against the progressive, that is a problem. That is a problem. When Katie Porter lost that
race, we also have to look at our infrastructure and how we supported Republican spending
dollars on Democrat spending dollars on Republican candidates. It is a dirty tactic. It also tells us
why we need to get to a an election cycle that is funded not by raising millions and tens of millions
of dollars, but instead by raising public funds. And once you get enough signatures, let the
people pay for it. And that's it. Yes. Amen. Amen. Number one is just getting money out of politics,
you know, and we need a fighting chance. We still have to fight. And there's different ways and there's
more stealth ways. You know, people can reach out to voters. As Mondale said,
going to go to door, texting friends. It doesn't always have to happen.
buy, you know, big expensive campaigns, ad buys and flyers. But it sure helps, right? It sure
helps. Anyway, let's, let's pivot a little bit and go to some of the impacts of, again,
this extremist Supreme Court starting with this. A new analysis of federal records by the AP
showing more than 100 pregnant women in medical emergencies like ectopic pregnancies
denied care in the ER since Roe was overturned.
Kylie Thurman had an ectopic pregnancy where an embryo in plants in a fallopian tube.
She was initially denied an abortion in Texas, despite the law making an exception for such emergencies.
Then it ruptured.
I want to have kids and I wanted to keep my fallopian tube.
But now it's gone.
A piece of my womanhood was taken.
So following the overturning of Roe v. Wade back in 2022, we now know that pregnant people are being turned away at ERs and denied care when they are in urgent, dire need of it.
And now, according to an AP report, more than 100 women have been turned away and suffered at the hands of negligent hospitals and doctors.
And that is just a drop in the bucket, as we will look into.
But specifically, the two women that are highlighted in this report are Kylie Thurman and the Center for Reproductive Justice,
and they have both filed complaints, excuse me, these two women in Texas filed complaints against those Texas hospitals for their refusal to treat them,
specifically for ectopic pregnancies.
And that is when an egg implants itself in a fallopian tube, and there is no way for that fetus to grow.
and it will eventually burst and obviously there is no future life for that fetus,
but absolutely can endanger the life of the mother.
The Biden administration says hospitals must offer abortions when needed to save women's lives,
despite state bans enacted after the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right
to an abortion more than two years ago.
Texas is challenging the guidance, and earlier this summer the Supreme Court has declined to resolve
the issue.
In other words, are you required to actually save a woman's life?
when they are pregnant. Texas allows a laws, Texas law allows doctors to terminate
ectopic pregnancies, however, which is that condition where with fertilized egg
implants and fallopian tubes instead of the uterus, atopic pregnancies have
are always non-viable and can quickly become life-threatening if not if left untreated. But,
and this is the but because there is technically a heartbeat still in that zygote, right? That's throwing into
fray, a whole world of hospital bureaucracy and doctor bureaucracy, as everyone scrambles to figure
out what to do. And of course, the last person they're concerned about is the patient.
Kylie Thurman went to Ascension Seton Williams in hospital with a tubal atopic pregnancy, and she was
discharged without any care, only given a pamphlet about miscarriage and told, quote, to let
nature take its course. Thurman returned to the hospital three days later with vaginal bleeding
and worsening symptoms. Despite her doctor's orders, the hospital refused to give her
me mexotrethate, excuse me, methotrixate, I'm going to get that, which is a common
treatment that stops in ectopic pregnancies from continuing to develop, infuriated Ms. Thurman's
OBGYN, met Ms. Thurman and Ascension Williamson to plead with the medical staff to give
her methoxicrate. The complaint said they eventually agreed, but it was too late. The
Topic pregnancy had grown too large and ruptured.
Thurman nearly bled to death and had to have her right fallopian tube removed.
Again, which means the ability to have kids wanted children is that much more difficult.
Another case was Kelsey Norris Dela Cruz, who has also filed this complaint,
and she experienced a similar ordeal at a hospital outside of Dallas,
resulting in losing her fallopian tube as well and most of her right ovary.
According to that AAP report, there have been least four other women with ectopic pregnancies that have been, have had trouble receiving treatment.
And again, this is part of that more than 100 pregnant women who've been in medical distress, who sought help from emergency rooms who were turned away or negligibly treated since 2022.
An Associated Press analysis of federal hospital investigations found.
Two women, one in Florida, one in Texas, were left to miscarry in public restrooms.
In Arkansas, a woman went into septic shock and her fetus died after an emergency
emergency room sent her home. And now that number is also seems pretty low,
according to ProPublica from a report they did in 2023. It's difficult to maintain the
accurate data on these things such as maternal mortality rate because the quality of data
does vary. But Mondale, there's a lot thrown at you, but this is just further proof of how
what happens when we deny people the right to an abortion and specifically when we deny people
the right to privacy right this is we we are it is what the right fear mongered against
during the obamacare years right oh uncle sam's going to be in your doctor's appointments
no no uncle sam is quite literally the person who is telling you that he cannot save your life
because some bureaucrat and some judge said that a heart when a heartbeat is detected,
that's when life begins. So the fetus, and maybe you have to die.
And it's the tragic part about this is American democracy now tells people.
A hundred plus women have been told by American democracy,
including the Supreme Court, that yeah, you might die for trying to have a baby.
You may die if you are raped and someone and you want to have an abortion.
This is absolutely disgusting.
And what the hell kind of country are we researching for when a woman says because of a law passed by a state, a piece of her womanhood has been taken?
Who is proud of that law?
Where are we standing up for the least amongst these?
Where are we with a constitution that for 27 amendments had added protections for people every time something changed?
Now we have a Supreme Court that says we are, we are not the voters, not what?
what the states say, but we are the arbitrator of what's right and wrong in this country.
And it is disgusting, especially when we know that the Supreme Court is nothing but an
extension of partisan politics. Absolutely. I mean, I will find this Twitter user,
but my favorite tweet about all this is someone who said, yeah, let's leave it up to the states.
That's great. Let's leave, you know, abortion up to the states. In fact, let's leave it up to
the counties. Let's just leave it up to county. You know, let's leave it up to the blocks.
Let's leave it to the communities. Let's leave it up to the families. Let's leave it up to the
people and the person who is pregnant, that's who should be making decisions about our bodies.
We got to take our second break, but when we come back, there is some fun news, which is a little bit of fun,
more fun, more weird fun.
Welcome back to TYT, Mondale Robinson and Francesca Fiorentini here with you.
This just dropped everybody. So the childless cat lady hater is back. He is back. There is more
audio from a guy who I guess never thought he would be picked as a vice presidential running mate
to Donald Trump and never thought that his podcast appearances back in 2020 would
would ever see the light of day.
But they have, and there is more of them.
J.D. Vance was a guest on the portal podcast, which says it interviews thought leaders,
which for me is always a red flag back in April of 2020.
And he said, he and the host discussed Vance's whole story, his life, and they also got into family issues.
And in it, he talks about how his wife, Usha Vance and her parents were devoted to helping her, basically how her parents were
helping them raise their kids and love being around their son, which is kind of sweet until it
takes on a very clear sexist turn. Take a listen to this. My wife had this baby seven weeks
before she started the clerkship. It was still not sleeping any more than an hour and a half
in a given interval. And her mom just took a sabbatical. She's a biology professor in California,
just took a sabbatical for a year and came and lived with us and took care of our kid for a year.
Okay. So it was just one of these things where it's like this, this is what you do.
And you can sort of see the effect it has on him to be around them.
Like they spoil him, there's sort of all the classic stuff that grandparents do to grandchildren, but it makes him a much better human being to have exposure to his grandparents.
Well, I don't know.
And the evidence on this, by the way, is like super clear.
That's the whole purpose of the post monopausal female in theory.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, wait, wait, what?
What was that last part?
Host of Weird Backwards Thought Leader podcast,
that is the whole purpose of the post-menopausal woman in theory.
I need to go puke just over there through like two seconds.
So everyone sit tight.
So here is, and there's J.D. Vance agreeing that, yeah, that basically,
While Usha, his wife, was sleepless with a newborn, and obviously, J.D. Vance is just getting them zees. He's doing nothing to help. Oh, who's to help? Oh, the mother of Usha's going to come there. And that's great. And it's not about spending time with grandparents. It's not about that. It's about postmenopausal women's purpose in life is purely to take care of their children's children. Oh, this is going to
play so good. It's going to play so good in the suburbs. All those retired women were maybe they
voted for Trump once. Maybe they would never vote for Trump. Maybe they were thinking of RFK Jr.
I don't know Mondale. First we went after the like childless cat ladies. So I'm thinking like what
mid-20s to like mid-30s, right? Still able I guess to have kids. Now he's going after post-menopausal
women as the only thing they're around for is to take care of the kids. I mean, at least
there's some consistency in his stupidness, right? Like the idea that if you don't, if you
don't have kids and you just have cats, then you have no purpose. And it continues if you,
because if you don't have kids and you just have cats, then you can't, when you go through
post-menopause, then you don't have grandkids to raise. So what is your purpose? Basically,
he wants a life full of men and couches. Absolutely.
Exactly. He's like, well, I was over on the Devon. She's, she's my Tuesday girl.
But and then, and then my baby was like, wow, wow, and she was like, oh, I'm tired.
And I was like, I'm sorry, I'm with divan.
I call her diva on, and I'm sorry.
No, this is just so, okay, it's funny until you realize this is the worldview of the right.
It is women are only valuable based on whether they can procreate or not.
And even the ones who attempt to do so, but whose lives are put in danger because, hey, being
pregnant is kind of a risk to your life. It's a pretty crazy thing to do and it doesn't always
work out. Oh, no, you can die. Now, that's fine. We're not going to care for you if you have an
ectopic pregnancy or if you have a miscarriage or, you know, you're going into septic shock like that.
You could die. Only that's not actually fertile, right? And if you're not fertile any longer like
you have had menopause, you're of no use to us. Except, ooh, ooh, maybe when there's an election.
It's just, it's really sick Mondale and what's incredible to me is that J.D. Vance back in 2020 when the entire country and the entire, specifically the conservative right, their entire line was we're going to be anti-woke and we're going to go after books and we're going to go after women for just living their lives. That he thought that all of this stuff was just going to play. Like that it was going to play well to the weird podcast audience. It was going to play well to the alt-right, which was a term we were used to using. And now it's going to play well nationally.
No, it's absolutely not.
I really hope this takes on new life and shape and steam and I hope that it gets mainstream
press coverage.
Any final thoughts?
Well, I think you did a wonderful job summing up what these people or how out of touch
they are with what is a world that is majority women, majority woman, right?
I can't even for the life of me to understand who in your thinking, in your little brain,
which part told you it's smart to go out to women in this manner.
I feel bad for every Republican that has to wear this for the next 20 years or so.
Because not only are you anti-black, now you seem anti-woman.
And you tell me, how do you win an election nationally like that?
It's impossible.
It takes 27 to 30 percent of Democrats to pick up white voters, an expansion of the so-called evangelicals
or any women that lie to their husbands say, yeah, we're conservative and going to booth and do what they know is best for their lives.
Because their husbands don't seem to care about them is going to change the electric for this country for a long.
time. And I don't think Republicans are thinking past Donald Trump.
Yep, absolutely. And I also think there's going to be some breakaways. You know, I remember in
2016, there were a lot of, I mean, couples where the husband was voting Trump and the wife
was like, I cannot go. I can't go with you on this, you know. And sadly, in a lot of, you know,
especially older folks like, you know, within couples and especially patriarchal relationships,
women will vote with the man. And that might not be the case anymore. But let's just
Round this out. I love the story, and I need you here for this story. A little bit of a debate over a meme that the Trump campaign posted. A little debate on CNN. Take a look.
I actually appreciate the policy conversation, but this is what the Trump war room just tweeted earlier today. Import the third world, become the third world. That picture on the left, they're saying your neighborhood under Trump, on the right, your neighborhood under Kamala Harris.
a sea of black and brown faces.
So in an attempt to pivot more towards policy, the Trump campaign is meming.
And this time, it is, well, this time, last time, all times, it's a pretty racist meme.
And the CNN panel, which does feature former Trump advisors, see how they respond to it.
But it's noting that the picture, first of all, let's put up the meme, actually, this is just graphic two, just throw that up there.
We can see, import the third world on the left, import the third world, become the third world.
And then there's more, which says your neighborhood under Trump.
So it's a lovely brick home with a porch and an American flag.
And on the right, your neighborhood under Kamala.
And there are migrants sitting down, this looks like New York.
It is actually, and it is, in fact, right outside the Roosevelt Hotel, where migrants are seeking
temporary shelter. The Roosevelt is now an intake center for a lot of homeless migrants.
It's been described as the new Ellis Island, but this is your neighborhood under Kamala.
Okay, cool, cool, cool. There was more discussion over on CNN as to the subtext of that meme.
Here's Tricia McLaughlin, who is a former communications director for Vivek Ramoswamy,
who is trying to claim that, no, no, no, no, this is about policy.
I think that that is showing chaos.
I don't think that's racist.
I don't think that illegal immigration should be about race in any way.
Do you think the image you just saw is racist?
Wait, so how come Donald Trump doesn't bring up that?
I think that they're showing chaos.
40% of illegal immigration comes from people who are on visa overstays from other countries that are not coming from there.
Terry, right.
I mean, how come Donald Trump doesn't focus on that?
But he talks about ass whole countries and people of color.
And the browning of America.
We should focus on all of it.
We should focus on all of it.
We should focus on all of it.
Do you agree with the asshole country's line?
What do you mean?
Well, we should attack people for being brown and we should attack people for
overstaying their visas.
Bing, boom, bam, that wasn't all.
Because former Trump advisor Brian Lanza also stepped up to defend the use of this meme
and even said the we don't see race line.
Take a look.
Skin color. I don't think Republicans look at skin color. I didn't feel that in that image.
So you don't think that they chose an image. No, I don't, listen, I've been part of the decision making.
I've been part of the decision making. Black and brown migrants. No. And you make a point about
race. You were part of the decision making that using photos like that, I've been
previous part of the decision making those photos and being part of that decision making,
race never played a role in it. It was what image can help example what you want to say.
And when I see that image, I see the, I see the debate Trump wants to have. With Trump, you're saying,
with Harris-Waltz, you're unsafe.
Yeah, Mondale, I just have to kick it to you to weigh in here on this meme.
There they, it's not about race.
No, if those were all white people sitting on the ground, number one, people will be like,
why do you have a shot of Coachella?
Number two, they would be at the same point.
If they were all Ukrainian migrants, same exact point.
Yeah, listen, I think if they were trying to make a point about immigrants, then they would, Donald Trump wouldn't have said anything because it is him that stopped a conservative, the most conservative law we've seen in modern times from becoming our bill from becoming law written by the second most conservative senator in the United States Senate because he wanted it as an issue. He did. Don't act like you care about the borders when you stopped it for happening. And people saying that this is about migrants is equivalent to saying that Southern
was about religion.
That is BS.
They were clear.
When she said safety versus unsafety, you were absolutely right.
But their definition of safety had an American flag in it and a space full of black bodies.
Stop playing with me.
This is not an issue about migrants.
This is an issue about race.
You are unsafe.
This is the boogeyman.
This is the first movie ever shown in the White House by Woodrow Wilson,
the birth of a nation.
And I'm not talking about the remake, the original one that had black.
being played by white races and the Klan coming to save you.
This was an extension of that thinking.
This is an extension of Lee Atwater's Southern Strategy.
This is a thinking, an extension of Willie Horton.
This is an extension of Ronald Reagan going to Philadelphia, Mississippi,
one of the most racist places where they hang people,
black people, to remind white people why you need to get out in vote.
Anybody saying anything else to me, you, sir, ma'am, are a co-defendant in racism.
Absolutely.
I mean, what's their defense?
oh, we're racist also against brown migrants too, just because there happened to be more black
migrants than Haitians in that photo. Like, you know, and the other thing is this, look, as Mondale
said, like, Biden was on the precipice of passing one of the worst immigration laws in, in, like,
Democrats history, right? It would have effectively codified the, basically undoing asylum-seeking,
completely no asylum-seeking. And there's another image that comes to mind when it comes to
migrants under this administration, which is the CBP on horseback whipping Haitian migrants
and chasing them like they were less than human and like we're in a, speaking of birth of a
nation in a completely different era. So this is a policy failure on both the Democrats and definitely
the Republicans. And when it comes to like, you know, policy failures, like Biden is trying
so hard to be outright the right on this and he just can't. And we have to have a
different vision. We have to hit back against this, not just about how racist it is, but also about
how pig head it is and how much we actually need real immigration reform. That does it for the
first hour of this amazing two-hour extravaganza, two-hour and change. There's a bonus episode.
Mondale, where can people follow you, find your work? Yeah, I'm Mundell Robinson and all social
media platforms, and I produce for Rebel HQ. Also, if you see me quoted on CNN in New York Times,
ask me about it because they probably got it wrong.
I love that.
Same.
Same.
If I'm ever quoted by CNN or The New York Times, it's totally a lie, never said anything like that.
No, okay, now we got a shot of a future generations.
Now I'm going to go cry and go grab my future generations.
Thank you guys so much.
We will be back, John, and Jordan will be back with you in just a second.
I don't know how much.
I don't know.
I'm going to be.
I don't know.