The Young Turks - Republican Dumps Trump

Episode Date: August 23, 2024

Pelosi makes no apologies at the DNC for her role in Biden’s exit. Former Georgia Republican Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan delivered a speech on the third night of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago in which he slammed the Republican party. The DNC shuts out Palestinian Americans, and the UAW is not pleased with that. Cuomo rips corporate influence at conventions." HOST: Ana Kasparian (@anakasparian), Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE: ☞ https://www.youtube.com/user/theyoungturks FACEBOOK: ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER: ☞ https://www.twitter.com/theyoungturks INSTAGRAM: ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK: ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕 Merch: https://shoptyt.com ❤ Donate: http://www.tyt.com/go 🔗 Website: https://www.tyt.com 📱App: http://www.tyt.com/app 📬 Newsletters: https://www.tyt.com/newsletters/ If you want to watch more videos from TYT, consider subscribing to other channels in our network: The Watchlist https://www.youtube.com/watchlisttyt Indisputable with Dr. Rashad Richey https://www.youtube.com/indisputabletyt The Damage Report ▶ https://www.youtube.com/thedamagereport TYT Sports ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytsports The Conversation ▶ https://www.youtube.com/tytconversation Rebel HQ ▶ https://www.youtube.com/rebelhq TYT Investigates ▶ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwNJt9PYyN1uyw2XhNIQMMA Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Jake, you're a natural born athlete. Let's see how Earth responds to that. The guy! All right, well, all right, welcome to look at the D&C last yearks at the D&C. Last day, Kamala Harris is going to speak.

Jake and Braddock and Sparried. All of a sudden, John Fulessing. Hello. Right off the top of the show, John's, of course, got a serious X-M show, a podcast, sexy liberal tour. I mean, you want to talk about sexy liberals. I mean, I'm not saying. I play the role of tours.

Stephanie Miller is the sexy liberal right now. Okay. Yeah. All I know is we got a whole bunch of sexy liberals right here. Okay. So, including you guys. So you're, I've seen your audience. They're deeply attractive, sexually and spiritually.

Hello, gentlemen. And spiritually, I like that. I like that. All right. So guys, we got a big show ahead for you guys. Lots of stories. It turns out all of a sudden some elected officials agreeing with Anna about Palestine. I can't wait to get to that.

Yeah, so that's a very interesting turn of events. And then we've got Trump, J.D. Vance, Democratic Party news. And obviously later in the night, Kamala Harris is going to speak. And we're going to be covering all the speeches play by play. So stay here all night. Anna's got the first study. Well, I wanted to start off with something that I didn't think I'd ever say, which is Nancy Pelosi is kind of killing it. Okay?

Right. And it has to do with the unapologetic nature we're seeing from her in regard to pushing Biden out and ensuring that, you know, this is actually going to be a competitive general election. So let's get right to it. Even though Anita Dunn said earlier today, quote, nobody wants to have a fight with Nancy Pelosi at this time. unquote. It does seem like there's some residual bad blood or resentment. And I'm wondering if you've spoken to him and and what your response is to that. Sometimes you just have to take a punch for the children. And that's what you're doing right now. You're just going to take the punch for the children. Nancy Pelosi remains unapologetic for pushing Biden to drop out of the general

election and to essentially pave the way for a much more competitive general race between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. So far, according to polling, Harris is absolutely killing it and is increasing her leave in the general race, which means that Nancy Pelosi did the right thing. However, there remain some individuals, some Biden loyalists who are incredibly angry and salty over the fact that she succeeded in pushing Biden out. So in a new report in the Washington Post, a group of Democrats, including within Biden's orbits and the Democratic National Committee remain bitterly upset with Pelosi over her public pressure campaign to push Biden out. Some have privately pledged to find ways to diminish Pelosi's influence in the party after

the November election. So they want to retaliate against her. They're going to punish her for winning. She's been a very, very bad, you know, Pelosi. And they're very upset that she did the right thing for the Democratic Party and they want to punish her for it. So they may seek to target her daughter, Christine Pelosi, who is rumored to be considering a run for her mother's house seat whenever Pelosi decides to permanently step aside. And that's according to two people familiar with the very loose conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution from the party. But look, it's easy to put out these reports that don't name any names. This report names some names, namely Anita Dunn. Apparently, Anita Dunn, former senior advisor to Biden,

is one of the people who feels that Pelosi betrayed Biden. She said, quote, one of my favorites is, revenge is a dish best served cold, okay? What I told the staff was you don't need to go get revenge right away. You can pick your times and just wait for your moments. Jake Tapper asked Pelosi about that in a recent interview. Let's hear what Pelosi had to say. He made the decision for the country.

My concern was not about the president, was about his campaign, as he has seen the exuberance, the excitement that has come forth in our country. I just did an event for one of our members in Illinois, Eric Sorensen today. Immediately, he got 1100 volunteers into his campaign, as soon as that announcement. Nobody is questioning the fact that the Democratic Party seems much better positioned right now than it did four weeks. and two days ago. There's no question about that. Former Speaker Pelosi. Why are we been talking about it? No, I love that last part. So like why are we talking about this? Yeah. Kamala Harris is crushing it. Why are we talking about this? Yeah. So I'll just say real quick. Look, you have to be a special brand of mental

to think that this was bad for the Democratic Party. But I don't look, I know I need to done a smit. She's a perfectly smart person and she knows it wasn't bad for the party. Everyone here knows it wasn't bad for the party. What she's saying is, and let's be frank about it, it was bad for my career and Joe Biden's career and our egos. And since our egos I would rather lose to Trump, she's saying, because they had about a 0% chance of winning than have my ego bruised. And since Nancy Pelosi bruised my ego, I'm going to try to get revenge on her but guys this she's not alone right so i've talked to a lot of people here and tons of people say hey look you know we like you guys etc there's the normal fans i'm not talking about them that of

the people who've addressed the fact that we help to try to push bind out there's a significant group of people who go you know what i did i thought you were crazy like literally people say that all the time here to me right but you were right and that's beautiful because they see hey we're about Like we're in much better shape. If this is beautiful, they're happy, but they thought we were nuts and heretics, et cetera. But then there's a second group of people that are in that Anita Dunn group that are still mad at us. Right. Like, and that is insanity, totally insanity.

You know why guys? Because the Democratic Party hates heretics. And if you don't listen to the top leader, they think it is the biggest crime. Losing a Trump is not the biggest crime. Losing the election, not the biggest crime. Losing democracy, not the biggest crime, but daring to disagree with a leader, even if you're 100% right, the biggest crime there is in a Democratic Party. That's why a significant portion of the party hasn't let it go.

And it's amazing. Well, I tried to stay agnostic on this during all these weeks. My listener is at Sirius XN, we're about nine to one in favor of Joe by the stay, which I get. And I do understand their grief. I understand their devotion. Nancy Pelosi is someone who I think needs to be praised ever since she brought incredible unity and messaging unity to the party in 2017 against the Trump tax gun. We were still reeling from the Bernie fan, Hillary fan, destructive civil war, and she managed to get everybody on the same page in 2017, and it stayed that way for Trump's term.

So I'll always give her credit for that. What I say to folks who are grievous about Joe Biden being forced out, I think those are the folks calling Biden feeble. If you're saying there was a coup and Joe Biden had no agency in this, then you're the ones calling Joe Biden an old man who can't make his own decisions. Joe Biden deserves all the praise in the world. He got into this race to defeat Donald Trump. He got out of this race to defeat Donald Trump. It was the gutsiest, toughest thing I've ever seen a politician do.

And most likely he will go down in the history books more for that than anything he could have achieved in a second term. And one more thing, Pelosi is not an anonymous source. She's been out there in the beginning, willing to suffer the slings and arrows of outraged Biden fans. And I appreciate that because we saw so many Democrats who didn't have the guts to put their face out there. What she and Schumer did. And Hakeem Jephynees to a lesser extent, I think Nancy still makes Hakeem, we're a trainee badge. But what she and Schumer did was they made a calculated risk. We're willing to lose the White House if we could somehow keep the House and Senate.

And that was what motivated them in telling Biden to leave because the down ballot races were going to hurt a lot more. than who got the Oval Office. Yeah, I got to say something about just piggyback off of something you just said. Look, I have a tremendous amount of respect for anyone who is willing to do the right thing, knowing that they are going to get a lot of hate and a lot of backlash for doing so. And, you know, we've been very critical of Nancy Pelosi for different reasons, the way that she pursued various policies. But lately, I don't know if it's because she's approaching retirement.

But lately, she's been doing things that are gutsy, including, you know, trying to persuade Biden to drop out of the race. I'll give you another example. She didn't, she refused to attend Benjamin Netanyahu's speech. Amen. And, and she was unapologetic about that. And I loved the way that she carried herself in defending herself over that decision. So kudos to her for how she's been, you know, strategizing lately, how she's been acting lately. I really appreciate it. And by the way, if Tomola Harris and Tim Walls win, that's going to be interpreted as Joe Biden found a way to beat Donald Trump one more time. And again, he waited. People were calling me every night on the on Sirius XM outrage that he might leave. And I said he's not going to make any decision until after Donald Trump has locked in a running mate at the convention. So when you think about it, Doe a moral eyeliner model, J.D. Vance could be old Joe's last gift to us. And thank you, Biden. Biden's going to look great in history for doing something tougher than what I'll be. VJ did and tougher than what Washington did because that old man really wants to beat Trump again. He did not want to get out of this race.

I'll always believe there would have been a chance for him to beat him. I think at the end of the day, people might have gone for policy. But just look around this room and you'll see the impact. I have not felt a vibe like this since I was a kid working a marshal at the Nelson Mandela rally at Yankee Stadium. This kind of collective joy of so many diverse people leaning towards something more righteous than what we're used to. Okay, so I, all right, I'll say two. Let me have it. Yeah, no, two gracious things and then yeah, I'll let everybody have it.

I'm not a Democrat, I don't know. So number one, I agree with, and you guys have heard me say many, many times, Joe Biden at the end made the right decision and should deserve all the credit in the world for letting go of power when he didn't have to and Trump never did. So what you do at the end matters most, okay? So history is going to look very kindly on him doing this, especially if the Democrats win, then he's going to be a total hero. So that's what I was saying from day one for a year. I was like, if you drop out, they built statues. You were right, right? So secondly, I can't believe how much credit I'm giving to Nancy Pelosi. Look, number, but here's

incremental sell out, Jay. So guys, look, facts matter. Please stop being loyalists of people and politicians and cult of personalities. It's not only Trump, Democrats do call to personality. So look at what we're doing. No one in media has criticized Nancy Pelosi more than I have over and over again. So I don't want to go back to those old criticisms. But here, she was a hero and she was brilliant at it. And I'm going to give you one other thing that you don't know. Okay. The reason she's going out publicly now and taking the bullets again, a second time around, is because she's partly protecting Hakeem Jeffries and most importantly, Barack Obama. Barack Obama was a huge part of pushing

Biden now. So look, I, the team that works with Destiny was another vlogger, et cetera, does a stream, caught up with me today and I was kidding around and I said, you're welcome Destiny because he wanted Biden to stay in and now he's happy that Biden, you know, that Kamala Harris is doing well, et cetera. And he's like, and I was kidding, Oh, I deserve 99% of the credit. Of course, our role was minuscule. The two people that were the most important were Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, okay? And the fact that she's protecting the Obama brand right now and say, yeah, it was me. It was me. She's not bragging about it. He's taking bullets for it, okay? And I respect her for that. And I respect how masterful she was. And I can't

believe I'm saying that. But facts matter. She was masterful and she got the job done. So now I'm asking people who are buying loyalists for god's sake do facts matter do facts matter i can't believe that anyone would still be angry that's mental if you're super happy that we might win now the correct answer put aside me like if you hate me you hate progressives or whatever it is no problem no problem i get that fight's apparently going to last for the rest of my life right but can you say thank Thank you to Nancy Pelosi for saving the election and to Barack Obama and to the people who are not out there, but who actually made a giant difference, Axelrod Carvel, all those guys, Ezra Klein, Nate Silver, they need a big difference. Yeah, I'm still in pain about Godfather

three, so I understand people are hanging on to these things. But again, it's getting tinier every day and you don't have to like how Joe Biden was persuaded out of the race to appreciate the greater Good. And again, if you're saying it was a coup, you're denying that Joe Biden had the agency. You're denying it was his choice. You're the one calling him a feeble old man. In fact, let me go to the last graphic here because he himself says this. He's asked, you know, Nancy Pelosi did this, you know, what's going on? He says, I haven't spoken to Nancy at all. Look, no one influenced my decision. He's saying I made the decision.

And to your point, you made such a great point, John. The decision to announce that he's dropping out after the RNC was a very smart decision. He did not want to give the Republicans, he did not want to give Trump in Bands. any ammo to attack common. That's correct. And now Donald Trump is stuck with eyeliner bandabie. And, you know, I mean, Joe Biden's going to get credit for that. And Donald Trump now has taken sole custody of the ageism issue and all the hypocrisy that comes with him. Yeah. And last thing on that is not only did they pick J.D.

Vance and doubled down because they thought they were going to win. But normally you get a post-convention bounce. And they stole the post-convention bounce and gave it the common instead. didn't get a post-assination attempt bounce. That's right. And look, whether that was purposeful or not, I'm not entirely clear because Joe Biden is super stubborn, but he did the right thing. And whether it was intentional or not, it came at a perfect time. So it worked out really, really well. So one more time. Thank you, Nancy Pelosi, but thank you to Joe Biden, too, for doing the right thing.

The one thing I will say is I am, I was wrong about how well Kamala Harris would perform. I remember having an interview with Tim Ryan prior to all of this happening. Tim Ryan was pushing hard for Kamala Harris to be the presumptive Democratic nominee. I literally asked him, what are you smoking? Because I was concerned that, you know, some of the elements of the Biden administration that made him unpopular would actually follow her to her campaign. But no, I mean, the excitement here is very much real. It is sincere. There's so many people here that you can't even like walk to the bathroom.

Okay? It's like so crowded. And so I haven't felt this kind of excitement from Democratic voters in a really long time. And that goes to your point. I do think that this is good news for the general election for the Democrats. And it's certainly good news for down ballot races. All right. We got to take a break. When we come back, we've got more news for you. Don't miss it. All right, back at the DNC-T-Y-T-Y-T-Y Granite Experian, John Kruple-Sang, Pablo, thanks for joining. He hit the join button below. One-Love 83. Thank you for gifting your membership. Anna. Well, there have been many fantastic speeches during this Democratic National Convention.

I didn't think I would say that I would enjoy a Republican speech, but there was one Republican speech that really, really blew me away, and that was Jeff Duncan's. Let's get to it. I am a Republican, but tonight I stand here as an American. An American that cares more about the future of this country than the future of Donald Trump. Let me be clear to my Republican friends at home watching. If you vote for Kamala Harris in 2024, you're not a Democrat. You're a patriot. That fiery message was delivered by Georgia's former lieutenant governor, Jeff Duncan. Now, he was one of the few Republican politicians who were willing to essentially aggressively criticize Donald Trump as he attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

and he suffered some political consequences for that, but he did the right thing. And during his speech, I think he shared elements of his personal life and what his vision is for the future that I think is important to understand because there have been a lot of never Trump Republicans who kind of got absorbed into the Democratic Party,

neocons like Liz Cheney, for instance, that I'm not really in favor of. But I like Jeff Duncan's message and what he sees for the Republican party in the future. So let's hear more of his speech. I'm going to focus my attention on the millions of Republicans and independents that are at home that are sick and tired of making excuses for Donald Trump. If Republicans are being intellectually honest with ourselves, our party is not civil or conservative. It's chaotic and crazy. And the only thing left to do is dump Trump.

These days, our party acts more like a cult, a cult worshiping a felonist thug. Look, you don't have to agree with every policy position of Kamala Harris. I don't. But you do have to recognize her prosecutor mindset that understands. right from wrong, good from evil. She's a steady hand. It will bring leadership to the White House that Donald Trump could never do. So for me, a Republican like Duncan doesn't just talk to talk. He walks the walk. You know, it's about honor. It's about loving your country. It's about doing the right thing. The same, you know, ethics and characteristics that Republicans

preach, but oftentimes do not practice. And he, in my opinion, is practicing it and he was willing to do so at a political consequence to himself. Remember Republicans? Yeah, I do. Remember conservatives? Like they were wrong about everything, but they were still nice. Yeah, I didn't remember that. They were in your family and you disagreed on things, but you still loved each other. I mean, he's a Republican. They've lost their planning. Krypton is gone. They're trying to find a home. There are, there's no party for Republicans. There's no party for conservatives. It is now the cult of comb over Caligula. And this man's a political refugee. So I think it's great that he showed up here. I'm still very nervous about the fact that

Brian Kemp also did the right thing and then got a wave of hatred at him. And that intimidated him so much. He allowed the Georgia legislature to craft this cockamamie malarkey law that now allows the legislature to throw out the votes of any county. They think there might have been something wrong with, which seems to me code for you know whose votes aren't going to get counted. So Georgia's got a got a long way to go. I'm terrified of what's going to happen in Georgia. But how can you not admire what this man did? He didn't compromise any of his feelings. He didn't become pro-choice right away. He's actually there because he cares about democracy more. And you know what? I think Democrats are better at that. Democrats have shown a great willingness to throw their own over. I mean,

we've seen it time and time again. Democrats eject them. Republicans reelect them. This guy's an exception of the rule. A lot of guys get banished off to Jeff Flake Island, but I have nothing but admiration to these folks who will come here and be stateless. They're They're not going to cash in it any way from doing this, but they're trying to do the right thing. And history will prove them right. Look, sorry to belabor it, but George W. Bush, who I still think is the worst president of Trump, has not been at the last three RNCs. The only other Republican president is persona non grata.

They are not the Republican Party anymore. And the fact that George W. Bush has still never come out against Trump shows he's probably worse. But we can't even call them Republicans. I don't know what they're going to be when Trump leaves. But the fact that they hated us so much, Jen. remember, they hated us for opposing the Iraq war for questioning Bush. Trump gave along and gave them permission to hate Bush. They are a fickle cult. And believe me, and the right charismatic's going to come along in 10 years. Half of those folks in Milwaukee will deny they ever

voted for Trump. The Trump era Republicans have some characteristics that I actually appreciate, right? The purging of the neocons, I think is a good thing. But yeah, the cult-like mentality, the willingness to engage in violent threats against anyone in their party who dare cross Donald Trump. That is not a good thing. Blind unmanly obedience is not a good thing. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, so this guy showed courage in a couple of different ways. Look, a couple of things to distinguish people.

First of all, of course, Shannon's right. The Republican Party has largely become the Magna Party now. There's about 7 to 10% left that are though traditional Republicans that care about the country. Again, we don't agree with them on anything and they're war mongers and serve corporations. But they don't with them. Yeah, but they don't want to like, they don't want to end democracy. They don't want to terminate the Constitution, right? So, and then there's another layer, which is Ken and so Governor Kemp in Georgia.

And he's still like in every way a bad guy Republican. Look at what John just told you about what he's doing. And in fact, a lot of what Governor Kemp was frustrated by was like, hey, you knucklehead, you cheat before the election, not after the election. Right on. Right. You get rid of the voting rights. You get people off to voting rolls. You say, oh, we can legally throw away votes, et cetera. You don't do it in a ham-handed, idiotic way that shows off what we do for all the time as Republicans, right?

So he's kind of frustrated at Trump, not necessarily for being a crook, but for doing it in a stupid way. Right. So whereas Jeff Duncan, by coming and speaking here, he's definitely endangered his career. Yeah. So especially the new MAGA party, they will never forgive us. And they'll never forgive him for supporting Kamala Harris. We're speaking at the DNC. And not just for speaking out against Donald Trump, but for saying nice things about Kamala Harris. Remember when Chris Christie hugged Obama for like a half a second because Obama had helped with disaster relief in New Jersey. It's just like the most benign, you know, nicety, right? I mean, there's so many people in this building that hate me, but we're nice each other, right? And we shake hands and we hug and

whatever. And I don't mean hate me, but like, you know, we have massive disagreements. That's what people used to do and not hold grudges, et cetera. But now if you do the tiniest little thing, you're banished forever. So he knows that. He's not unaware of that. So that's Jeff Duncan saying, I'm good with ending my career here as long as we don't, you know, elect that guy who was going to burn the Constitution. So I'm kind of holding the best part of the video for last, at least the best part of his speech in my eyes. And it's what he shared about an interaction he had with his son. So take a look at that. In our family, my wife, Brooke and I are raising three boys and we have a family motto. And it says doing the right thing will never be the wrong thing.

During 2020, just the lowest of lows, we had armed officers outside our house protecting us from other Republicans. Donald Trump had targeted us my son came downstairs and he handed me this coaster that I'd given him years before at a father's son or cheat for our church and he said hey dad

doing the right thing will never be the wrong thing. Stay strong to my fellow Republicans at home that want to pivot back towards policy, empathy and tone. You know the right thing to do. Now let's have the courage to do it in November.

I love that story. I love that story because it shows that he's a good father and he's teaching his kids important moral lessons. And when he needed to be reminded of that lesson the most, his son reminded him of that lesson. I can't wait to see how Ann Coulter attacks that child. I really can. Yeah.

Look, guys, two things about this. if the Republicans just went back to like, hey, you know what? We're anti-crime, anti-integration, anti-choice, et cetera. We're still not going to agree with them. Exactly. But that's a normal party. And then if they said, hey, you know what? We love black and brown people and women, et cetera.

But we just have policy differences. It could easily win elections. Yes. They could easily win, right? They're still campaigning to get the RNC nominations. They're not trying to cast a wider net. They're not shaking the etch-a-sketch, as someone once said. They are still trying to go for the base they already have.

And that's the scariest part about all this to me, because it indicates they don't seem to think they need the most votes to get power. They seem quite confident they don't need to expand their base of appeal to get the jobs. Yeah, and Charlie Perk explained their way of thinking on Monday when he was on here. He said, well, yeah, you could win by getting independence or you could win by taking your base turnout from 60% to 75%. And so it's not an accident. They're doing it on purpose.

They're trying to rile up as much of their own folks as possible to turn out. And the way they do that is more red meat and more red meat, which unfortunately is more hatred and more hatred. And finally, guys, Trump said we should terminate the Constitution because there's been, quote, massive fraud against. But Jay, you can make any excuse you like if you're Maga, You could say out of context, but it is definitely, definitely not out of context. You could read the quote for yourself.

It's on the record. It's not secondhand. You saw him do it. And so he doesn't believe in the Constitution. And so if you're okay with that, okay, then you're not really an American. And so that because Americans are not about geography. They're about an idea, a creed, a philosophy. The American idea of hope and opportunity as enshrined.

the Constitution. And if you don't believe in that, you're not, not, you're not just not a Republican. You're not really an American. Christian nationalism is taking the Bill of Rights and the New Testament out into the woods at gunpoint and digging two holes. They don't care about the Constitution. They don't care about the Bible. They don't care about illegal immigration. They're getting behind the only candidate running who's hired undocumented workers to avoid paying Americans a living wage in two different centuries. They don't care. about abortion. If they cared about abortion, they would fight for easier access to birth control and sex ed in the school. They don't care about it. They care about power and they'll go for

whatever they think will give them that power. That is the precious. And Jank, just look at how great that hate worked as an election model in 2018, 2020 and 2022. You guys keep at it. You guys have Byron Donalds come out there and talk about how much better black families had it under Jim Crow. have baby man J.D. Vance come out and talk about wanting the ban porn. If J.D. Vance doesn't want people looking at porn, he should appear in it. And have Christy know to be the secretary of shooting dogs in the face. You guys are doing it perfectly. I have no notes. All right. Well, before we go, John, tell everyone where they can to watch your show, listen to your show.

Sirius X-Eb every night on Progress, 127. If you don't have Sirius XM, we're a free podcast as well. The sexy liberal tours coming to a town near you. and you can watch our big DNC pay-per-view we just shot with Governor Pritzker and Mark Hamill and Jamie Harrison at sexyliberal.com. It's such a joy to see you both. So great to have you. Thank you. I love what you all do and I love your listeners. And I just love this evil empire the night you've created. I really do. Okay. We'll be right back.

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We're at the DNC in Chicago, and we've got speeches later. And we've just heard that 10,000 protesters have amassed outside the convention. And so things could get interesting tonight. And apparently they already passed it. Of all people, Vivek Ramoswamy on this way. Interesting. And Dorothy August, thank you for being with us. She joined by hitting the join button below. We appreciate you. Anna, what's next? Well, I wanted to actually talk about the pro-Palestinian protesters, the uncommitted movement, and how the DNC has responded to them. And buckle up. There's a lot to get to with this story. So let's do it. Controversy is stirring at the Democratic National Convention amid protests from pro-Palestinian groups over the party's refusal to allow a Palestinian speaker, a Palestinian elected, a Palestinian delegate to address the conference.

Now, we're going to give you the latest on that growing controversy in just a moment. But first, I actually think it's worth talking about another fascinating update on the pro-Israel side of the Democrat. Party. So Slate's Alex Salmon actually attended the launch party of something called Zionist Action Fund, the brand new, unabashedly progressive, unapologetically Zionist, excitedly pro-Kamela and pro-Democrats, political arm of the pro-Israel nonprofit. Now he says that what he saw at this sparsely attended party made him think that there's actually a policy shift coming, but do we? Now, we'll dive into it. So the group is branded as a Democrat loyal operation, unlike more powerful and well-known APAC. As we know, APAC has given a lot of money to Republican candidates. But as Salmon's writes, if Zionist Action Fund was meant to be a counterweight to that, there was little evidence of this. Based on the lineup and the content of the speeches, it seemed more like a spin-off. No one said a critical world.

about the organization all night, meaning of APAC. That's a bad sign, okay, but let's keep going. Elon Goldenberg, the Harris campaigned Jewish liaison, whose hiring had been announced all of a week ago, tried to assure the attendees of Harris's record on Israel, which also seems like a bad sign, but let's keep going. Illinois Representative Brad Schneider also gave a speech and spoke to Salmon's afterward. Did he worry that the ground was shifting within the party on Israel with Biden on the way out and a more vocally critical Harris taking over?

No, he said. Harris's rhetoric was less important than her actions, by the way, something I've been saying, which he thought wouldn't change. Listen to what she says, but watch what she does. he told me with a knowing look. Not great, okay. But there are some good signs as well. And that good sign had to do with the fact that that party seemed to not really be much of a party at all. As I mentioned earlier, it was sparsely attended.

And also many big names that were supposed to be like keynote speakers at the event ended up dropping out. Like they didn't show up. And so Amanda Berman, founder of Zionist, got on the mic and apologizing. announced that both Representative Marilyn Strickland and Representative Jared Moskowitz had left before addressing the crowd. The number of partygoers unaffiliated with the organization or its official program was low and dropping. There was not an A-list or B-list or C-list celebrity to be found. So I have noticed this disconnect, Jank, where, you know, you have the politicians, you have the Democratic Party completely in line with defending Israel, supporting Israel, no matter what, but the electorate is a little different, right?

The Democratic voters, I mean, you look at polling, we're not just saying it, it's not a vibe that we're feeling. You look at the polling and it shows that the majority of Democratic voters would like a ceasefire. Yeah, so look, no, I don't see any change from the Democratic party politicians at all. But if you know, Paula Harris has shocked me a couple of times in the last three weeks. So I guess it's not impossible. And But before three weeks ago, I would have said it was impossible. Right now I have it at 2% chance. So don't get excited.

She's very, very, very, very, very unlikely to change the position. At the end of the day, guys, I mean, like, the reason we only ever get five or 10% change on any issue is because the donors rule the place. I like how many times are I have to say it? And so we all keep having these nonsense conversations. And I get frustrated with portions of the left, like, They're genuinely surprised. And they really think that Kamala Harris might change if you put enough pressure.

I love, look, keep going. I love pressure. I love activism. I love that the protesters are here. Apparently 10,000 protesters are outside right now. So I don't want to be skeptical and cynical about that. I love when you guys, when we put on, use our leverage, use our power, and go forward. But like this idea of like, gee, I wonder why she thinks.

No, come on, of course, it's the tooters. So now to the party, the reason why it's farce they attended is because now they're a little embarrassed because the voters have turned so much. It's not that they're going to change their policy. Right. It's that they're trying to avoid getting caught on camera, getting caught defending Israel, because now they're worried, oh my God, it might cost me votes. Before it was like free money, I'll take millions of dollars, and it's not going to cost me any

votes because mainstream media will cover my ass and tell everyone that I'm the moral one for killing as many Palestinians as possible, right? Or funding the genocide of Palestinians. So that's what Shane. But to me, the most telling quote was that Illinois Representative Schneider, who said basically, yeah, yeah, you can look at what she says. But what matters is what she does with a knowing look, which that means, yeah, of course, we'll say some things about, oh, Palestinians are human maybe right but at the end of the day money rules okay so no we're gonna win we have more money and she'll do exactly as she's told and if you catch feelings over that you're catching feelings over the whole system you can hate me for being the messenger but if you still don't

know the donors rule all of politics hello welcome to america right yeah no you're i think you're right about that and you know another bad sign has to do with the way that the uncommitted movement has been treated during the DNC. So there are Palestinian Americans who are delegates to Kamala Harris, Palestinian Americans who are elected into office on a state level, on a local level. They're here. We're not talking about, you know, activists who might say something crazy on stage, but we're talking about individuals who are fully supportive of the Democratic Party, fully supportive of Kamala Harris. They're part of the uncommitted movement because is they're trying to use their leverage to pressure Kamala Harris to do the right thing.

And what they're asking for, in my opinion, is incredibly reasonable. Please allow one of us to speak. And they provided a long list of electeds, a long list of delegates. Again, people who are supportive of the Democratic Party, people who are Democrats themselves, to allow the Harris campaign to pick, like the DNC to pick, give one of these individuals an opportunity to speak. and the DNC, the Democratic Party, has rejected that. Now, let's talk a little bit about the details involved here. So yesterday, pro-Palestinian leaders of the uncommitted national movement

began a synon outside of the DNC after being told by party officials that they will not get a speaking slot at all. For context, the group has been calling on Vice President Kamala Harris to endorse an arms embargo. And look, do I think that Kamala Harris, would support an arms embargo, unlikely, right? But they want to at least be able to make their case. And here is Abbas, Alouye, a DNC delegate from Michigan and the leader of the uncommitted movement, explaining exactly why the group has decided to stage this sit-in

after initially indicating that they were having productive conversations with the DNC. Let's watch. We've been making a request of the Democratic National Convention for a Palestinian-American to speak from this stage. We talked to members of Congress. We talked to party leaders. We told them all we need a Palestinian American to speak from the stage. And we were negotiating with the Democratic Party.

We're telling them, hey, here's a long list of Palestinian Americans you can choose from. And they said, okay, we're considering it. We can't tell you yes, but we also are not telling you no, and that's a good thing. A few hours ago, they called and said, I have an answer for you. The answer is no. And that was all they said. We think that's unacceptable. We think that this is the party where we shouldn't be silencing people's voices.

Even when we have disagreements about policy, and so we sat right here, me and my fellow delegates who ran out of options on the inside. So we're standing here on the outside, leaning into our power as regular everyday people and asking you to join us and asking the party. We need to see a Palestinian-American speaker from this stage. Tomorrow, this actually today, Thursday is the last day of the convention. They need to add someone to the program immediately. Now, that is the inside info about how those negotiations went. But what's really amazing is I think the Harris campaign and the Democratic Party realizes that this is a misstep. Like, why not allow one of them to speak one slot?

Like it could have happened earlier in the week. They just want an opportunity to be represented, right? And it turns out that now reporters are being briefed on something that's a complete, not or lie. This is according to Mehdi Hassan. Reporters are being briefed, it seems, that the DNC accepted Democratic State representative Rura Roman as a Palestinian speaker for tonight on the stage, but uncommitted turned her down. That is simply not true. It's a lie. Being told, I assume, by DNC spinners now on the defensive. Uncommitted are the ones who pitched her. They did pitch her.

In fact, I attended one of their press conferences today, one of their meetings today. And they specifically mentioned her as one of the individuals that they pitched to speak at the DNC. So this is a complete and utter lie by the Democratic Party. And there's still some time for the DNC to put her on the stage tonight for two minutes. That's all they're asking for, Jake. Yeah, listen guys, again, let me explain how politics works. Up on the suites at the very top of the United Center are donors, that actually had to pay a certain amount to get those suites.

And that number, just to get in the building, it's $500,000. Okay. Almost all the donors don't want a single Palestinian speaking. They would be furious, furious if a Palestinian spoke. So that's why the Palestinians not going to speak. And that's why they're going to lie about it. That's why they, like that, look, the difference between me and the activists in this case is that, again, I love their effort. But I think that they have some hope that it could work.

And again, I love hope, right? I wanted to have it. But I've been in politics long enough to know when it comes to AIPAC and the donor money in this case, you have, they're never going to allow it. It's not, there's no way they'll do. Okay. So then it leaves us in a super hard spot. Trump sucks. He's awful.

He's a danger to mind. He's all this stuff. Tomla Harris is now pretty good on a lot of issues. Tim Walz has got us all excited. But on this, they're never going to move. They are addicted to the money, right? So they go and ask the guys upstairs, hey, what are we allowed to do? Well, please, please, can we have one person and we could vet their speech?

And it could say, just be benign and say, Palestinian is our human. Are we allowed? And the donors go, no, we're not allowed. And the Kamala Harris says, okay, okay, okay. Look, look, if you think there's something else going on, you're totally wrong. That is what I just described is exactly what happens. Yeah, I've communicated this on the show so far, but I'm going to say it again. The feel here, the atmosphere here is celebratory.

Everyone's excited. It's a super positive, optimistic environment. And you want to be part of it. Like, it's so tempting to be part of it, to be celebrating. with them. But there's like this dark cloud of the Gaza situation that makes it impossible. It really does. It really does temper in my mind internally, the celebratory nature of all of this. But look, guys, what tempers it for me is I know that cash rules everything around literally in this convention, right? So you think that if she's going to do Medicare for all? No, there's a 0% chance she's going to do Medicare for all.

She went up to the suites and they told her, okay, okay, okay, right? Is she going like, is she going to do some of the proposals that she suggested? We're super hopeful that she might. So nuance, nothing is binary. Things are not black and white. So what Biden did 15% of his agenda. So you got like, they have to like pretty, pretty, pretty please.

Can you allow us to win just to squeak through just a tough couple of proposals? So I said last night in the coverage, look, if Calma Harris does 20% 25 to 35% of our proposals, it'll be like record breaking and we would be very, very excited, right? I just don't like this whole round of like, oh, I think we're going to get everything. Oh, it turns out the drug companies and the oil companies in APEC and the banks won again. Of course. So look, I get so frustrated because people like Larry Lessing myself and others have been saying for so long. If you don't get money out of politics, you're going to lose on every other issue.

When is it going to get through the heads of everyone involved in Democratic politics? You're not going to win until you get money out of politics. This isn't about Palestine. This is about donor money. Now, I have been critical of AOC's speech at the DNC, mainly because of one line. There were other parts of her speech that I wasn't crazy about, but I'll give her a pass, right?

Like, okay, it is what it is. Everyone's excited. You're going to celebrate Kamala Harris. It's fine. But the one line about how she is working tirelessly to secure a ceasefire in Gaza was just a flat out line. It really bothered me. And I'm happy to report that I'm not the only person who was bothered by it. Representative Ilhan Omar called her out. Let's take a look. It's been unconscionable for me in the last 10 months to witness my colleagues in this

administration refusing to recognize the genocidal war that is taking place in Gaza, to not see the mothers who have lost countless children. The babies whose dead bodies are being dug out. To not understand that working tirelessly for a ceasefire is really not a thing and they should be ashamed of themselves for saying such thing. Because we supply these weapons. weapons. So if you really wanted a ceasefire, you just stop sending the weapons.

That's right. That's right. Thank you to Representative Omar for speaking the truth. I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't understand some portions of the left. Like people get mad at Anna for saying AOC set of what she said wasn't true on the DNC stage. And now Ilhan Omar says it and people are like, oh yeah, I guess that's true. I know people love to hate on me. It's totally fine. It's so frustrating. Anyway, so guys, for all the people supporting Palestine, I love you. Keep going, put on all the pressure. Because your pressure is not that it's going to lead to a policy change. It's at least it's beginning to expose how politics actually works. And you're not just doing it for the Palestinians. I love you. If you just did it

for the Palestinians, you'd already be angels, right? But you're also exposing how money controls all of politics because like the reporters are starting to get embarrassed because the reporters are like, well, I mean, it's a policy issue. And I guess they have a policy disagreement. What's the disagreement? Tomlin Harris says there should be a ceasefire. Well, how can you get a ceasefire? It's actually super easy. You're threatened to withhold the funding. Done. Ceasfire immediate. They won't even threaten to withhold the funding. Why? There's only one answer. And it's not a policy disagreeing. It's corruption. So go spread the word. And so and then other Democrats will catch feelings. No, only Republicans are corrupt. When our guys stuffed their faces full of A-PAC money

and big pharma money, they're angels and they have a policy disagreement. No, they don't. This is corruption through and through. Well, speaking of corruption, Jank, why don't we actually talk about an unexpected media figure calling out Democrats and Republicans on corruption. And that's Chris Cuomo. A big theme here at the DNC is that they're going to go after corporate gouging. And they're going to go after corporations, whether it's in taxes, largesse loopholes. The RNC, we heard the same thing. They're going after the elites.

The two sets of rules. Let me reveal a reality to you that has to be. spoken to here, okay? These are the soldiers. These are the men and the women that go back to their constituencies and their communities and they fight. They take time from their jobs, they take times from their families, Republicans and Democrats alike. That's what they do. They need to charge these people up. They need to be able to get them on board. But there's another reality that is literally looking down on them. Greg, look at the ring of sweets, okay? This is not unique to Democrats. There is a game of money.

Of course, last night, Chris Cuomo, Chris Cuomo, shredded speakers at both the RNC and the DNC for talking tough, talking a tough game on things like corporations, holding them accountable, taxing them, despite the obvious presence of corporate cash at these conventions. So we'll get more to what Cuomo had to say in just a minute. But first, I think it's important to kind of understand what we're talking about in regard to the amount of money that is being funneled to these elections. and the type of influence that money has. So this is a Washington Post piece. Corporate donors swarm GOP convention. It's like a cocktail party. Now again, it's not just about the GOP.

This is something that's impacting the Democratic Party as well. But in this piece, they're focusing on the GOP. And Josh Dawsey over at the Washington Post writes that more than 300 executives and lobbyists are attending the RNC as guests of Trump's campaign. That total includes more than a dozen oil and gas CEOs or lobbyists who have a few. fueled the Trump campaign with massive checks, construction firms, waste management companies, mortgage bankers, trade association, sugar executives, realtors, home builders, banks, hotel chains, asphalt companies and others have represented in Milwaukee.

They want to get to know the people who would be in charge of another term, a lobbyist who represent several of the firms, said, and one longtime donor who has attended multiple conventions were called looking around Wednesday evening and seeing so many elected officials that he was taken aback. At least 30 U.S. senators have visited the boxes, meaning those suites, along with the top leadership of the Trump campaign, more than a dozen governors and leadership of the U.S. House people in boxes said. And so the point here is, you hear the messages that are being put out there on the stage. You hear the speeches, you hear the promises, you hear the proposals by the politicians. But everyone is motivated by incentives and disincentives.

And in reality, when you think about the amount of money that is being contributed to these politicians, that money talks. And they're not just contributing that money to the politicians for no reason. They're expecting favors in return. Yeah. So I'm going to start with one of our members, Jesus, take the wheel said, it only took Chris Cromontal 2024 to figure out that money runs Washington, D.C. Okay, yeah, I hear you, and that's definitely true. And by the way, I love our members and you guys know this better than anybody else does. And be part of the show, hit the Joe button below, become one of the members. But the reason I read that guys is because, yeah, I know, but this is the reason for Haller, because when we first started the show 22 years ago,

I was talking about money in politics and how it runs everything. And everyone else in media, Almost literally, except Amy Goodman, who are saying no, no, I don't know what you're talking about. You're a conspiracy theorist. You're crazy. The donors are a small influence, but the politicians are having debates and ideological, have ideological principles, et cetera. Just total theater, just absurd, right? And then new media started to come. And we kept pounding away the message. It's money in politics. It's money and politics. It's a corruption, right? Now, if you're an online media, social, digital media, and you say that there is no corruption, money and politics is not a problem, you get laughed out of the building, right? You're not going to have any, well, you'll have some poor Democrats and some core Republicans who are like, right? Outside is that corrupt, even though they take billions. I know, I know. You can't help those people, right? But overall, you get humiliated if you say something absurd like that online. And now it's starting to bleed into mainstream media. It's being now all of a sudden Chris Cuomo, who was the top rated show on CNN until recently, now on news station going, yeah, of course it's the money, right?

Yeah. And you're starting to see it pop up all over the place, go, huh, I wonder if it's the money, right? And so what we're going to do is we're going to keep going and going and going until finally you're going to see one day on CNN like, oh, Jake Cameron, going. This is really interesting. Breaking news, it might be the money. Of course is the money. Now, I want to just go to one more portion of what Tomo had to say, because he released some numbers, and it's important to know what the numbers are. In 2000, they spent $300 million on presidential campaigns.

24 years later, you know what they're expected to spend? $10 billion. Do you know how much money Harris has raised in the last couple of weeks? Hundreds of millions. And that's success. A lot of it's small donor. A lot of it isn't. The most dangerous money in politics is now legal money because of Citizens United.

You've got to know this. The idea that they can fight against it is almost laughable. It's almost laughable. So look, look and listen when you are told these things. Because I don't care what they promise you. Not here tonight, not at the RNC, not that Trump knows them, not that they don't own them. He did one of the biggest fundraisers I've ever heard of in my life out where I live. Millions of dollars at plate.

That's the reality of politics. That's a lot of money and he's absolutely right about it. And look, I also empathize with the viewers who are like, oh, in this late date, he's finally realizing what's going on. Listen, the important thing is he is spreading this message. And there is value in that guys because once you make the corporate corruption of our political system super taboo, suddenly politicians might reconsider taking those corporate, taking money from the corporate donors.

Exposing it is the most important thing. Guys, why do I focus like crazy on mainstream media? Because as long as they're able to hide it and remember before digital media started, they get hiding 100%. Everyone in mainstream media told you that money had nothing to do with the results. Like when they were talking about whether legislation was going to pass or not pass, money was never mesh, right? So look, mainstream media reporters get mad at me all the time and they think they take personal offense.

Sorry, then do your job. Like, why do bills pass or don't pass? If you're not writing about money, you're saying, I'm leaving at a minimum, 90% of the reason that legislation passes or doesn't pass. So if you're not going to do your job, and I don't care if you're offending. Do better, okay? Don't embarrass yourself. And if your editor says, don't write about the money, okay?

Pretend they're having principal debates. And you stay in that job, understand that you're not staying in a news job. understand that you're not staying in a news job. You're staying in a marketing job. Okay. So now, Chris, what did I tell you guys? People at like, look, this is a good guy. And you can say, hey, I disagreed with him a hundred different ways. I disagree with him a hundred different ways. And when someone comes to your side, the correct answer is, thank you. Yeah. And that's awesome, right? Don't be like, look, the right wing, if you agree with them 2%, they're like, oh, welcome, come on in and vote for Trump, right?

you look so we have to be more welcoming if someone says you're right the answer is and you didn't say it earlier right the answer is oh boy way to go now we got Chris Cuomo on our side that's the brother of Andrew Cuomo okay and that is a legendary political family and a guy who was number one on CNN going obviously it's the money and that's a great day in America that's a great development let's keep going until we get all the media to go fine fine we'll stop lying. It's obviously the money. All right. We're going to take a break. And when we come back, Congressman Rokano will be joining us for an interview.

Don't miss it. I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to be. I don't know. You know,