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Episode Date: May 16, 2026Donald Trump openly admitted the U.S. is fighting Iran in part to help Israel, even as global fears grow that the conflict could spiral further and destabilize oil markets worldwide. After leaving Chi...na with few concrete deliverables but signs of temporarily stabilized relations, Trump is now reportedly weighing plans to restart assaults tied to Iran. Meanwhile, Trump escalated attacks on Ro Khanna by saying he “shouldn’t be allowed” on Fox News. Thanks to today's sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/tyt Get 40% OFF the Ground News Vantage Plan when you sign up at ground.news/tyt Stay informed without the media spin at ground.news/tyt Go to cookunity.com/tyt or enter code TYT before checkout to get 50% off your first order. Use less data, get paid by switching to Noble Mobile: https://go.tyt.com/getnoble Hosts: Cenk Uygur, Rep. Ro Khanna SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞ https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER ☞ https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH ☞ https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Amazing show for you guys today because today I'm your host, Shank Yugar, along with my co-host,
Representative Roe Kana.
Representative Kana, welcome to the show.
How are you?
Thank, what a privilege, honor.
I made it.
Now I'm a co-host with the Young Turks.
It goes on my resume CV for life.
Okay, I gotta help you with that.
Okay, so I love it.
So unlike what we normally do, we're representing.
Representative Kana is on as a guest and we're interviewing him, he's gonna actually host
a show with me today.
We're gonna do at least three stories together.
We've done this before with others that we're running for office or that were in office
presently.
But we got super important stories that Representative Kana has a lot of expertise on.
So let's get to it, let's start.
So first stories about Donald Trump going to China.
And when Trump went there, he might have made a secret deal.
I wanna ask Representative Kana about that in a minute.
I think that there might be an exchange between Iran and Taiwan in regards to China.
We'll come back to that.
And he said that it was okay that China spies in on us.
We'll also come back to that.
But first, I wanna show you why Trump might have been in such a good mood in China to begin with.
Let's watch.
This is a great honor.
It was a fantastic day.
And in particular, I wanna thank President Xi, my friend.
for this magnificent welcome.
As allies in World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt's mentions of the brave people of China,
that's what they were, grew loud cheers and his speeches in the United States,
and everybody loved what he had to say, just as many Chinese now love basketball and blue jeans,
Chinese restaurants in America today outnumber the five largest fast food chains in the United States,
It's all combined, that's a pretty big statement.
So we're really happy with China now because we eat a lot of Chinese food in America.
Okay, interesting.
Ro, I'm gonna bring you in right away here.
We're gonna talk about the trade deals, potential war in Iran and the future of Taiwan.
But the Chinese seem to have done something smart here.
They buttered them up pretty well.
You know, they give them a red carpet treatment and the kids applauding.
And so do you think that that helped to soften Trump's attitude towards China?
Of course it did. I mean, now people know the playbook.
Flattery is the key to almost any politician, but it's certainly the key to Donald Trump.
And Xi Jinping made a big deal of taking him into the walk in one of his private gardens.
And what's ironic is he says, well, you know, the only other person who's been here is Putin.
And of course, we know Trump's obsession, admiration for strong authoritarian leaders.
And so they basically got what they wanted, which is Donald Trump stopping, standing up for
our manufacturers or workers or farmers and talking about ending the Chinese dumping and Chinese
state subsidies and not standing up for the Taiwan Relations Act and basically saying, okay,
I'm willing to listen to what you want.
Yeah, so we're gonna go one by one.
And I'm really curious what you think about my theory in a minute.
that they might have done a kind of a secret deal.
But first, let's talk about him what you're mentioning here.
All the different things that he seemed to be okay with China doing,
but I'm not sure we were okay with.
So let me show you a bunch of clips.
Let's go to first their cyber attacks against us.
About the cyber attacks that he's done in the United States or the MSS.
I did.
And he talked about attacks that we did in China.
What they do, we do, too.
It's like the spy, they're talking about, oh, the spy, yes, it was.
We do it too.
Look, no, I'm talking about spy.
The question was asked to me yesterday, I guess.
What about the fact that China is spying in the United States?
I said, well, one of those things, because we spy like hell of them too.
So what about the fact that China is putting in the U.S. infrastructure code that they could use if we, if you ever decided to come to the agency?
Well, you don't know that.
I mean, I'd like to see it, but it's very possible that they do.
And we're doing things to them, I told them.
We do.
to you that you don't know about it. You're doing things to us that we probably do know about.
But we do plenty. It's a double, it's a double extra.
If we do a lot of things to them that they don't know about, our president probably
shouldn't tell them that. Okay, and I've never seen a president defend another country
spying this much, well, asterisk, unless it's Israel. But congratulations, China. Now you're
in Israel's category. You're apparently,
almost allowed to spy on us.
But he wasn't on the spying issue.
Here's more.
I was on an interview with a very bad,
stupid reporter.
She works for CBS.
You saw their 60 minutes.
Stupid person.
Just an average person.
She's talked about China and this and that.
They steal this and they steal that.
I said, yeah, you do it to them too.
They spy on us.
They said, we spy on them too, I guess, you know.
So some people thought that was cute.
other people said, you don't have to say that.
They said, I sort of do.
No, we have, we do things and they do things and that's the way it is.
Representative Kana, is that normal?
Are we supposed to allow one of our biggest adversaries to spying on us and think that it's no big deal?
Of course it's not.
I mean, look, there is, Trump was known for sort of straight talk and no BS.
And he says, here, I'm going to level with you.
America has these spying operations and China does as well.
That'd be one thing.
But he's saying I'm fine with that.
No, the job of the American president is to say we will make sure that they don't penetrate
our critical security infrastructure and our critical defense infrastructure and our critical
financial infrastructure.
I'm not naive.
American people aren't naive.
they do this and we need to make sure that they stop doing it in ways that compromise our security.
But for whatever reason, he has gotten spooked. My theory is he's gotten spooked for two reasons.
One, China has a monopoly on rare earths. He never anticipated when he did his initial tariffs that
they would actually go there and they have more leverage because they've threatened to stop that
and he hasn't gotten any deal to extend them beyond a year. And secondly, he's spooked because
of the war on Iran that's going disastrously. Prices are up. The straight of
to Formuz is blockaded.
He needs China's help.
And so he's gone in with very little leverage.
All right.
Let's talk about more that he promised them.
He talked about allowing the 500,000 students from China to be here.
Let's watch that.
We requested for a lot.
We have visa, which is not allowed to trade.
And they were there.
It was a big company.
And other companies are allowed to trade.
And I said, what about letting visa?
We had to head of visa there today, by the way, visa is a big deal.
I said, what about using visa in China?
For some reason, they were blackballed, and maybe that'll come off.
So he brought a lot of business men there, and he talked about allowing the 500,000 students to have their visas here.
So both the company visa and the Chinese visas are apparently approved and perfectly fine.
And he brought a lot of business leaders with him.
And from China's perspective, I'm gonna go to graphic too here.
Chinese leaders, Xi Jinping, meanwhile wants quote, strategic stability, a predictable relation
in which Washington doesn't impede Beijing's economic and geopolitical rise.
I get that from their perspective.
From our perspective, Representative Kana, it felt like he was, instead of bringing
like senators and other government officials, he was bringing the people actually in charge
of our government, the head of NVIDIA, Elon Musk.
and other business leaders as if to say like, okay, all the decision makers are here.
So how did you feel about that and the student visas?
Well, he brought the global elite with them.
I mean, the very global elite he railed against.
And look, you have to take some business leaders, but not a single medium-sized manufacturer,
not a single farmer, not a single worker.
Like all the people he held campaign rallies with, none of them made the trip.
And he basically took the elite who sold down American workers.
I mean, these are the same people who were pushing for China to be part of the World Trade Organization with most favorite nation status.
These are the folks who created the China shock because they wanted cheap labor and they wanted capital to go to China to get high returns.
These are the people who offshore the jobs.
And now he's going with them to beg China for investment into America with jobs that aren't going to have labor unions and that are going to abuse workers.
There's a total betrayal of everything he ran for and of American workers.
Now, on the Chinese students, I've always felt that we should have Chinese students here.
I think it's demagoguery to say we don't want Chinese students.
38% of AI companies work forces actually Chinese origin.
But that's one area that I think he has in demagogue.
But the economics is just wrong in betraying American workers.
Yeah, and of course these companies don't have America's best interest in mind.
It's not to say that they're bad or immoral or evil, they're amoral, they have no morality,
they're corporations, and their interests is in trading more with China, and that might be
to our benefit, and often is.
And sometimes it's not to our benefit, but that they're not there for our benefit, they're
there for their own benefit.
In fact, let me show you the list here real quick.
Jensen Wong from NVIDIA, Corp.
Elon Musk from Tesla, Tim Cook from Apple, Larry Fink from Black Rock, Stephen Schwartzman from Blackstone.
Those are two huge finance companies.
Kelly Ortberg from Boeing, and the list goes on.
In fact, about Boeing, I have one more for your graphic, five.
His one deleted, one detailed announcement during the visit that China would buy 200 Boeing aircraft,
fewer than expected 500 led to the company's stock to fall nearly 4%.
So the Chinese are actually not buying as much from us as we expect.
So the stocks dropped, so that was somewhat counterproductive.
But now we get to the most important part, Taiwan and Iran.
I'm gonna go to Graphics 7 here because she said that any mishandling of tensions over the island,
as self-governing democracy, Beijing wants to control, could spark a quote, extremely dangerous situation
and nod to the potential for a great power war.
This got me worried that they are actually thinking of taking Taiwan physically, literally.
We'll get to Rose thoughts on that in the second, but first the clip.
On Taiwan, he does not want to see invitation.
President Sheet said there was a risk of conflict with the U.S. over Taiwan.
No, no, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I think we're going to be he doesn't want to see, he doesn't want to see a war.
He doesn't want to see a movement for independence.
He says, look.
Didn't make a commitment to defend our ally either way.
There's more on that when he sat down with Fox News.
I will say this.
I'm not looking to have somebody go independent and, you know,
we're supposed to travel 9,500 miles to fight a war.
I'm not looking for that.
I want them to cool down.
I want China to cool down.
But you're waiting on approving billions of dollars of weapons for Taiwan.
Is that moving forward?
Well, I haven't approved it yet.
We're going to see what happens.
Interesting.
So Representative Kanazan is a guest host with us today.
So before I get to my theory on this, which is going to involve Iran, let's just talk about the facts here.
So President Trump is saying he didn't make a comment on whether we would defend Taiwan, presumably if they're attacked.
He said we don't want to go 9,500 miles to defend them.
He said he might not sell them weapons anymore.
What's your take on that, Roe?
Well, this is where knowing some history and foreign policy actually matters.
Our policy of strategic ambiguity is not that we're going to duck making a commitment on providing weapons or providing support.
It's that we're not going to specify exactly what we would do if China attacked Taiwan.
And the policy has served as well and actually led to peace.
We have basically said that China and Taiwan can negotiate.
the future of Taiwan peacefully, and we're not going to intervene.
But if they engage in military coercion, as they are currently doing in terms of increasing the
patrols around the island, then we have a problem with that.
And the Taiwan Relations Act allows us to provide Taiwan with support and weapons.
That's not our troops going 9,500 miles.
That's us providing them with weapons, which Reagan in 1982 provided six assurances to
Taiwan about and said, we will never consult Beijing in providing these weapons.
Congress passed those weapons authorization either unanimously or with one or two dissenting
votes. And it would really be reneging on that assistance of the Taiwan Relations Act for
the president not to do it. And giving Xi Jinping just more of a license to accelerate the
military coercion.
Yeah, on that one, so I get the strategic
ambiguity. We talked a lot about it on the show and every president does it. So don't,
I would tell caution the audience, don't get too frustrated if Trump isn't telling you exactly
what we would do with Taiwan because that is partly U.S. foreign policy. But when he's,
when Xi Jinping alludes to, you know, hey, don't mess with us in Taiwan, it feels like
it's a little foreboding. And then the president says, I basically doesn't say whether he would
defend Taiwan. I do get nervous. Is it possible that could get interpreted as a green light?
Kind of like George H.W. Bush's ambassador accidentally giving the, we think, accidentally
giving the green light to Iraq saying that maybe we wouldn't defend Kuwait before the first
Persian Gulf War. It's a good point, Jank. And the president should have said, let me just be clear,
you know, Mr. Xi Jinping, you will not take Taiwan militarily. The one China policy does not allow you to
militarily take Taiwan. And if you do that, the international community led by the United States
is going to come to Taiwan support. And what we will do, he doesn't have to specify, but he needed
to push back. Instead, he just says, I haven't made a decision or a commitment in one way or the other.
basically saying I don't really care about the future of Taiwan.
Let if Xi Jinping wants to take it, well, we'll cross that bridge when it happens.
I mean, it was really a weak, very weak statement.
And there's people who are too hawkish on this who are really belligerent in trying to create a Cold War.
I don't believe that, but I do believe you have to stand up for territorial integrity, not being
violated by a military invasion.
Yeah, I don't think we need to do anything provocative like Nancy Pelosi did, in my opinion,
by going to Taiwan out of nowhere, and then that led to more sales and more antagonizing of
China.
On the other hand, we are supposed to defend them.
And so if we say we don't promise to defend them militarily, yeah, I'm worried that that
that could be misinterpreted.
But maybe it's not a matter of misinterpreting.
Maybe there's a grand bargain here.
So before we get to that discussion, last video is about it.
Iran and that'll that'll be part of that grand bargain discussion let's watch
interesting you feel strongly they can't have a as he said they closed it and then
you close them as true we we control the straight literally they've done no
business in the last two and a half weeks which is approximately 500 million
dollars a day so look the straight is not open we can't transit through it
could wreck the entire world economy especially if we go back in
But what that made me think is look, when you read the stories in all the mainstream press
and you hear the details, it looks like this was a giant nothing burger.
They get together, there's barely any trade done, a lot of CEOs go, but we get actually a smaller
deal than we expected on the one tangible Boeing deal.
It doesn't seem like we had reached any kind of agreement on Taiwan or Iran or really anything
else. But I wonder if there was a grand bargain struck and that we don't know about along the lines
of Iran and Taiwan. And so I want to run this by Euro. So as I looked at all of those context
clues, I thought basically Xi Jinping is saying, well, if you're in the middle of a hot war,
we won't give weapons to Iran, right? And but we don't say much about Iran.
otherwise. And remember though, if we go into Taiwan, you're not to come to Taiwan. And Trump says,
oh, okay. And publicly like maybe. So did they strike a deal that, hey, Trump tells them we're
going back into Iran, basically, and don't do anything about it. And China says, all right,
then we'll take Taiwan and you don't do anything about it. That's what I'm concerned about.
Well, I'm concerned certainly that Trump wasn't clear enough, and it's because of the lost leverage with this dumb, immoral war in Iran.
I mean, we now need China not to come to the Iranian regime's defense.
We need China ultimately to be pressuring Iran to open the strait of Formos.
And whether Trump gave the green light, I may not go that far, but he certainly is hesitating to provide.
Taiwan with the arms that Congress has provided that the Taiwan Relations Act requires.
And if he renegotiates that, that is not just a Trump thing. That binds potentially future
presidents. You know, he's overturning a Reagan assurance to Taiwan saying that we aren't going
to consult Beijing and we're going to provide you arms under the Taiwan Relations Act.
And now if Trump is saying, well, you know what, I'm not going to do it because China is upset,
Well, the next president coming in is going to have to negotiate once we've given up this leverage to China and undermined policy for decades.
So it's weakening the U.S. posture and slowly eroding the possibility of Taiwan not being coerced into being part of China.
Yeah. So look, you put my theory aside, you know, back to the facts that you're stating here.
Even if there is no secret agreement, if we go back into Iran, how in the hell are we going
to make sure that Venezuela stays in line and hence we have ships off their coast?
We're in the middle of the most disastrous war in a long time in Iran.
And then we're going to go defend Taiwan.
Is there any realistic chance that we could actually go 9,500 miles across the seas
and whatever is left of our Navy show up there?
fight and win a war against China.
So is Taiwan in de facto in reality pretty much defenseless now?
Well, we've certainly compromised a lot of our munitions in Iran that would be needed in a
battle in the South Pacific.
We have stretched already in two war theaters in Venezuela and in the Middle East.
So I would argue that while we still have a significant ennable presence in the South China Sea,
we've weakened our position.
But I don't believe that this means, okay, Xi Jinping is going to go into Taiwan, partly
because they have a strategy.
They just met the KMT leader, as you know, the KMT leader who's coming to America.
Actually, the opposition leader wants to integrate with China peacefully.
And my guess is that China is a more, it's a patient civilization and they're going to try
over the next decade a more peaceful integration rather than going, conquering Taiwan,
antagonizing the international community, risking sanctions, having antagonism even within Taiwan.
I just don't see that being their course of action.
But I believe that Trump has weakened our leverage.
Yeah, I'm gonna say on it one more minute.
Because I hear what you're saying.
And before, I never heard China talking about the military option in regards to Taiwan.
And generally, you're right, they disfavor the military option.
Their strategies, why don't we go into these countries?
And instead of threatening them, bullying them, killing them, imposing a puppet leader,
et cetera, we actually help build bridges and schools and they want to work with us.
So going to military direction would be surprising.
And I think that they have the better strategy.
And they just saw our military get depleted in Iran and Russia's military get depleted
in Ukraine.
On the other hand, I have never seen them talk about the military option this significantly
and clearly.
And Roe, wouldn't this be the one time?
Like let's say that a reasonable, sensible, sane Democratic president or even a sane Republican
president gets back in office, the military option would probably be lifted in terms of what
China has.
Like at that point, America would almost certainly defend Taiwan.
But if we re-engage in Iran and we're totally bogged down there, and you've got this man-man
Trump in charge, and he's already said to China, basically I don't really care about anything
that isn't Israel's neighbor.
So if ever there was an opportunity to take Taiwan, and look, I got family in Taiwan, I'm
pretty worried about it, but I'm not being hyperbolic.
And before this trip, I would have said, and I did say, well, there's a lot.
There's no way China's going in militarily.
But after three different times, he says, now remember, if we go in militarily, you don't
do anything.
In fact, last thing I was mentioned, I forget the Greek philosopher that he mentioned.
It sounds a little bit like Tostitos.
But anyway, the Tostito's tragedy that Xi Jinping referred to was, hey, when there's a rising
power and a power that's losing its power, usually there's a military clash.
And he said, you know, we could avoid that.
We don't need to have a military question.
I thought, well, that's true.
And I really like that.
On the other hand, wait, wait, wait, don't tell me we're the declining power and that you're
going to pass us.
And then don't tell me for the third time, hey, don't interfere if I use our military.
That's what's got me concerned.
Well, you're right to be concerned.
And short of a direct invasion, they can keep tightening the noose, right?
They can have more patrols around Taiwan.
They can fly over Taiwan.
airspace, they can have the conditions where Taiwan knows they're going to have an embargo.
And what are they doing?
They're showing their military strength.
They are trying to get a commitment from America to change the six assurances to Taiwan.
Once it's broken, Taiwan can't trust the American president, American commitment.
And then you have a domestic opposition leader like KMT saying, well, we want to integrate with China anyway.
And my sense is that they're trying to pursue that kind of coercive strategy on integration to have the KMT come to power.
Now, could you be right that they see that there's this two-year window and they go and they attack Taiwan?
I mean, I don't rule it out.
And of course, that's why we need in Congress and the Senate and others to have a clear voice that America will actually provide defensive support to Taiwan.
But, you know, my, if I had to bet and guess, I would still err on the side that they're
going to use coercive technology, but and that Trump has weakened our hand.
Yeah, there's no question we have less leverage.
So, you know, whether there is a deal or not a deal, God help Taiwan if China decides
to take military action, because it looks like we're going to be a really hard stretch
to help them.
And so, by the way, we'll just say it is not the thing.
Tostito's tragedy. It is the the Sidious Trap and I'm sure I said that wrong too.
Not Cidious Trab, Allison Graham. Okay, all right, I've had a Tostito's tragedy or two,
but that's why I look like this. Okay, we're gonna come back in a minute. We're gonna do
Trump's attack against Rokana and the really interesting, and Trump admitting, yeah, they're on
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To say we're a little worried about it is an enormous understatement.
Asimov Prophet says the trip to China was just like a trade mission kings would do with the aristocracy that own businesses.
Yes, like the Venetian traders are here along with me and we're going to make a deal totally
right.
It did feel old school.
I am reading these a little bit blind here.
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That would be hilarious.
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You gotta come up with these ideas before he goes, all right?
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We cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. They're crazy.
I'm gonna get to that.
You can't let them have a nuclear weapon. They would use it.
There'd be no Israel, there'd be no Middle East, there'd be no Europe, and they come out
us too, because you know why? They're crazy.
All right, so Trump in a little bit, we're gonna show you also said that we are totally
doing this war for Israel, and a couple of the Gulf countries. You're gonna see it
with your own eyes, which is amazing.
But Roe, we start there with him saying that, you know what?
This war, if we don't do it, we're gonna lose France.
We're gonna lose the Netherlands, right?
They're gone.
Iran is going to destroy them with a nuclear weapon they don't have.
So what do you make of this kind of exaggeration?
Well, first of all, they don't have an intercontinental ballistic missile.
So the reach, even if they had a nuclear weapon, is not far beyond the Middle East.
Secondly, they don't have a weapon.
I mean, they have enriched uranium, but they don't have a weapon and the ability to put it on a weapon.
Third, we have done nothing to get rid of their enriched uranium.
So the enriched uranium is still there.
And if anything, we've now given them more of a incentive to develop it.
Because what do they have to lose?
They've already gotten attacked.
We've already decimated a lot of their navy.
We've decimated a lot of their Air Force.
So if you're Iran, you're saying, well, why don't this is what I can do to develop it.
And you've killed a lot of my, the leader's parents and killed their relatives.
We've actually made the situation more dangerous than less dangerous.
Yeah.
So look, there's, and it feels like Trump is using some Israeli talking points here.
And we've heard to Israelis and Netanyahu in specific say for the last 30 years that Iran is two weeks away from a nuclear weapon.
And they were gonna lose Paris and Sacramento and just about every imaginable place, San Antonio, you can go on and on.
This, it's totally and utterly absurd.
But I think he might have taken the Israeli talking points a little too far when he accidentally admitted this.
War. If you took Saudi Arabia, Russia, put them together, we're doing twice as much oil and gas as they are. Think of that. It's amazing.
And as well. We're two.
Called drill, baby drill, right?
Oh, well, I mean, when you really think about it, if they have a problem with Iran and they need the straight more than we need it open.
We don't need it at all. We don't need it at all. Fair enough. So. I mean, you could make the case, you know, like,
Why are we even, we're doing it to help Israel and to help Saudi Arabia and to help Qatar and
UAE and, you know, Kuwait and other countries.
Wow.
So Representative Kana, there's the president saying, yeah, we're doing this for Israel and a bunch
of the Gulf countries.
Do they, well, what is that?
Do we control our own foreign policy?
Are we supposed to start wars for other governments?
The level of candor, that should be all over TV.
I hadn't actually seen that clip because I didn't seen the whole interview.
But it is really shocking.
I mean, he's basically saying we have enough oil in this country.
If anything, it's raised gas prices, raised food prices.
So why are we doing this?
Well, Israel and Saudi Arabia need us to do this.
And with all of the reporting, it's not just Netanyahu, it's MBS and the Gulf
Allies pushing him to do this.
We're basically fighting a regional war where there's no benefit and only downside to the American people.
We haven't made us any safer.
They still have enriched uranium and food prices up, gas prices are up.
The Fed can't cut rates for all of the president wanting them to cut rates because he wants mortgage rates to come down,
credit card rates to come down.
Fed can't do that.
So he's betraying the American worker and he's saying why.
I mean, he's remarkably candid.
Yeah, that is, it's a shocking admission.
And you're right, that should be all over the news.
When the president says we did this war for Israel, that is a massive news story.
We'll come back to Saudi Arabia on them.
But I also want to ask you, he said, we don't need the Strait of Hormuz open at all.
Is that anywhere near true?
Well, it's not.
I mean, look, if we banned exports, which I think we should, because the export only allows our oil companies to make record profits.
and if they are hurting the American consumer, then maybe we'd be less dependent on it,
though we'd still be dependent on it for fertilizer and other products.
I think 20% of the world's trade goes through there, but we'd be less dependent on it for oil.
But the reality is we have oil export.
And so we are on a global market, and that means that if the Strait of Formos isn't open,
someone in Youngstown, Ohio is paying more at the pump.
And even the president knows that.
He's just trying to obfuscate.
and not level with the American people.
Office case a good word, I'd use horse crap, but I hear you.
Okay, so although that can't get through the straight either, the fertilizer stuck.
But apparently somehow Trump got his portion anyway.
But okay, now the last part of that remarkable stretch of answer there from statements there
from Trump, he says, well, it's not just Israel, we're also doing it for Saudi Arabia and
UAE and Bahrain and Qatar and all these folks.
And look, in my experience, and I speak for myself here, when I both cover the politicians
and the media on the right wing side, but also some establishment Democrats and also certainly
some establishment pundits.
And when I'm in debates on the issue of Israel, it is crystal clear when Israel has a new talking
point, because almost all of their folks will say.
And when I say there are folks, I mean the overwhelming majority of Congress.
Congress, the overwhelming majority of media.
They will all use the same talking point at the same time.
And I was in a debate just yesterday, and I get this weird talking point before Trump said
that about, well, this war is, I cornered the guy into it basically admitting that America
has no interest in this war at all.
And he said, yeah, but the Saudis and the UAE and all these countries, we're not just
doing it for Israel, we're also doing it for them.
And maybe in their mind, they think that everyone thinks in a tribalistic way.
So they're like, oh, whoa, if it's for the Saudis, then I'm all for it.
Like, no, I don't care if it's for the Saudis.
Making it for the Saudis doesn't make it any better than if it's for Israel.
The only people we should be concerned about is us.
But here's the president now using this same exact talking point as the Israelis about,
oh, we're also doing this for the Saudis.
Of course, inconvenient for them.
And in the middle of that debate, and it was on Mario in a Falts show, he read a breaking news saying,
the Saudis then responded by going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We don't want the war to continue.
That is not true, right?
So, but putting that aside, Roe, are you more persuaded to continue the war if both the Israelis
and the Saudis want it?
Absolutely not.
And the reality is, why are we getting in the middle of a Shiite Sunni fight and something
that has been going on for generations?
How does that serve the American interest?
The second thing is even the Saudis and UAE and Qatar and the Gulf states are all unified in their horror for what happened in Gaza.
They all believe it was a genocide.
They all believe it needs to be a Palestinian state.
So it's not like they are on Netanyahu's side.
They may be conveniently cheering on.
cheering on the bombing in certain places in Iran because they've had rivalries with them.
But the population on the street, not the rulers, the population on the street is horrified,
that they're killing Iranian schoolgirls and killing human beings.
And so I fundamentally believe that we shouldn't be in this war and we shouldn't be using
the talking points of these Gulf leaders to justify it, further separating us from the people
in the Middle East.
Yeah, we shouldn't use anybody's talking points that isn't, you know, from our government.
And whether it's Gulf countries, Israel, we shouldn't do a war for any other government
unless it's like a NATO alliance, but we don't have any of that here.
And that's for defense.
This is for offense.
Israel wanted to go attack Iran, and we're like, oh, okay, even though we have no American
interest, we're gonna do it anyway.
Totally, utterly outrageous, but I appreciate Trump confessing it.
Okay, so now we talked on the show about how Trump has basically said that we're doing this war for Israel, and he added also for the Gulf countries, but no mention of doing it for us.
And because that's largely indefensible, and a person who agrees with us on that is former congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green, she tweeted out, quote, this is a quote from Trump, we are doing it to help Israel.
Now, she says, Trump says we don't need to do it at all on attacking Iran.
You're paying a ridiculous gas prices for inflation.
Inflation is rising.
And we're evaporating our weapon stockpiles.
And he finally admitted why.
Wake up, everyone, she says.
And she makes a good point.
Trump even said in that clip, we don't even need this war.
So we are doing it presumably only because Israel and he claims the Gulf countries asked for.
Now, we know the Gulf countries did not ask for.
very upset about it, but that's Marjorie Taylor Green fighting back on this.
So, but interestingly, there's a battle within progressive ranks and left wing ranks now,
because some folks like Representative Alexandria Ocaster-Cortez says, well, I don't care of
Marjorie Taylor-Green is saying the right things or even voting the right way on this issue.
We still shouldn't work with her.
Here's her case for that.
I care about results.
I care about results.
Now there are certain places where certain areas where I don't think that we should ignore some folks' record on some of these issues, right?
It's about where we trust intent, where we trust where those outcomes are going.
I personally do not trust someone like Marjorie Taylor Green, a proven bigot and anti-Semite, on the issues of what is good for Gazans and Israelis.
benefits our movement in that instance to align the left with white nationalists.
I don't think it serves us.
And so I think it's about looking at the context, the place, the results, the outcomes,
intentions, and where we think that train would go.
Yeah, so Representative Kanazan is a guest host with us today.
And Roe, look, your voting record and Representative Ocasio-Cortez voting records, very similar on this issue.
I appreciate her voting record on this.
Largely, there's one area where she wasn't, or a couple areas where she wasn't perfectly right.
But I get it.
Overall, very good record on voting the right way.
But she says there that she cares about results.
But when you have Marjorie Taylor Green voting with you, isn't that results?
Well, let's look at the bigger principle.
Obviously, we shouldn't compromise an inch when it comes to real progressive values.
No one is saying that we should throw the trans community under the bus, throw the immigrant
community under the bus, throw women's rights under the bus, throw black political rights
under the bus.
And in my case, I never have.
I voted against Lake and Raleigh.
I've voted and supported the trans community, even then when other folks were, you know,
throwing them under the bus soon after Trump's election. But what I've said is if we can get
folks to say that they're going to help us stand up against war, if we can get folks to say they
can help, they're going to help us stand up against an Epstein class that is abusing the system
and treating working class girls as dispensable, then I welcome their support for progressive goals
for progressive ideals. And that without their support, we're not going to be effective,
especially when you have a conservative president.
So my view is pragmatism to achieve progressive ends, not pragmatism to discard progressive ideals.
Yeah, so I'm gonna come back to results in a second because she said one more thing about a bill that she basically worked with Ted Cruz on.
So but let me ask you, she says that she doesn't trust Marjorie Taylor Green and she doesn't care, and she says she says she has,
is presumably bad intent since she questioned her intentions.
So I'll tell you my opinion, which is that I don't really care about their intent at all.
I care about their votes, and I care what they're telling the people that follow them
and believe in them.
And Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, Tom Massey, so many others seemingly have flipped
millions of people on the right wing in independence to say, yeah, we probably should
care about American sovereignty and not follow whatever everything Israel says and not fund
everything they want and not go into this disastrous war in Iran.
So I don't really care what their secret thoughts are as long as what they're actually
saying and how they're influencing people and how they're voting is going in the right direction.
Are we supposed to analyze the secret intent of everyone we're voting together with?
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I don't know if we can figure out what lurks in a human being's heart.
What we can look at is what their actions are. And there's no doubt that some of these
individuals have said terrible things in the past, and you can call them out for those things.
But in the case of the war in Iran, when Donald Trump threatened to blow up the entire
Iranian civilization, basically threatened genocide against Iran, threatened a war
crime. And some of our Democratic leaders were saying, well, maybe he should consult Congress.
You had people like Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker Carlson saying that would be a war crime
and genocide. And there is absolutely no way that an American president should do that.
And for us to say that we're a nation inspired by Christianity. Well, if we're not going to
recognize that in this country with Donald Trump as president, that is helpful to those of us who
who don't want to see Iran blown up, who don't want to see our troops there or Iranian schoolgirls
killed, then we are not being effective in stopping this war. And so what I would say is, this is
this is not about saying I'm going to vote for a certain person, or I'm going to endorse a certain
person. It's about saying that when there are huge issues with huge stakes, I'm going to build
a coalition that is actually going to prevent war or hold, like I said, the Epstein class,
accountable because we would never would have gotten the Epstein bill through the line if
Marjorie Taylor Greenhead enrished her seat and stood up to the president. That's a fact.
I could I couldn't have done it. Mancy couldn't have done it without her, without Lauren
Bobert, without Nancy Mice. Yeah, so it's not a little thing, right? I mean, we've got
massively important issues like the Epstein files, Iran war, genocide, and it's not like they
didn't make a difference. If Massey hadn't joined you, there's no way in the world you could
gotten the Epstein files released.
But you also desperately needed Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mason, Lauren Bobert.
And I disagree with Massey on 91% of stuff.
That's kind of literal.
I disagree with Nancy Mace probably and Lauren Boeh were probably on 99% of stuff.
But when they come over and give you the critical votes you need on the Epstein files,
you would have been a little nuts to reject that, wouldn't you?
Well, it would have been a disservice to the survivors.
and it would not have gotten transparency.
Now, I'm not out there defending everything Marcia Tellegrina said.
And if I'm asked about it, I say I have very profound disagreements.
And I understand why people feel deeply hurt by comments she's made in the past.
And I call those out.
But it means that where there are issues that we can have a coalition to stop
war to hold the Epstein class accountable, we should. And we also, in my view, and this is maybe
some people will say I'm old fashioned or naive, but you know, I believe based on my upbringing
in extending grace and extending a sense that none of us are perfect and people can have redemptive
qualities. And in my view, that's the best of the American tradition, the conscience of our
nation, in my view, has been the black freedom struggle in the South.
And that was the attitude that Dr. King took towards people who were segregationists.
That's the bar attitude John Lewis took to people who beat him on the Edmund Pettus Bridge.
There has to be a sense of moral conviction without writing off huge segments of the American population.
Yeah, last two things here, because that's a great point about Martin Luther King.
He actually would have of course never gotten the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights Act if he didn't work with
Lyndon Johnson, and Lyndon Johnson in private was viciously racist. So if he said-
And in public. Yeah, in public oftentimes, that's right. So if he had said, no, I'm doing a
purity test, I don't want your voting rights act, I don't want your civil rights act, it would
have been a historic mistake. So now, and people like Tucker, he said terrible things 20 years
ago about Muslims, I grew up Muslim. But now he says, oh my God, don't hate Muslims.
It's a terrible thing to hate Muslims, and a good Christian should never hate Muslims.
Am I supposed to reject that guy?
On that issue?
No, that's crazy.
But the last thing here is one last part of that appearance from Representative Ocasio-Cortez
about how sometimes it is okay to work with Republicans, which was curious given what she said earlier.
Let's watch.
I think it's really about what our outcomes are.
And to be honest, there are some areas where things will not get done if they're partisan, because they are anti-establishment.
There is bipartisan consensus on keeping and protecting stock trading in Congress.
And so it's going to require a massive bipartisan consensus of people willing to come together
across those differences to get it done.
So she worked with Ted Cruz on some of that.
So working with Ted Cruz is okay?
Does he have good intent secretly?
Or is it that the issue is so important stock trading, which it is, very, very important
issue, that she's willing to get past those problems.
But I would argue genocide and war and the Epstein files are at least as important as stock
trading.
I would argue more important.
So I can't make heads or tales about when she thinks it's okay to work based on results
and when not to work on results.
That's my opinion.
But what's your test for when to work with a Republican and when not to?
I can't seem to quite figure out hers.
Well, first I just want to be clear that Representative Ocasio-Cortez, as I'm sure you would agree,
it's been a very positive force overall in the progressive movement and in the Congress.
And she genuinely has been a leader in banning stock trading.
She has worked across the aisle on that.
And I support her bills.
I support her efforts.
I support the Trust Act.
And she's absolutely right, you need to build bipartisan consensus to be able to do that.
I guess what I would say is when people are elected to the Congress and they come there,
that if they agree on a goal that we believe is valuable and the stakes are matter,
then we should work with them. But we shouldn't work with them while compromising our values.
Marjorie Taylor Green and said, okay, Roe, I will sign the Epstein Transparency Act,
but you know what, I need you at the press conference to have anti-transactivist,
Or I need you to have people who are going to say that we need to have a total unfettered
Second Amendment, but no gun safety laws.
And Massey had said, that's what I need, because I've got a family that sends you a Christmas
card with everyone holding a semi-automatic weapon.
Then I said, no, I'm not going to compromise on something that fundamental.
But if they're saying, look, I'm willing to work with you on this issue, then I think that we
should work on those on those common goals to be able to get things done.
Yeah, I just don't find it complicated. I'll go further than you. If somebody's going to vote
with me, I'm going to say yes. I just don't find it complicated at all. But you're absolutely
right. Ocasor Cortez has voted the right way on almost all the issues in regards to Israel
and certainly against the war. And I don't want anybody getting the wrong idea. What we're
discussing is not whether we, and Gro and I have different opinions on this, but whether
we think Ocasio-Cortez's record is good or not, what we're discussing is, hey, how much
should we work with people from across the aisle if they're willing to cross the aisle?
And let's also note for the record, because this is important, they're doing it.
And in fact, Roe, I'll challenge you a little bit on this.
Because Marjorie Taylor Green and Tucker and all those guys crossed the aisle to work with
you guys when they were in charge.
when Trump and their party and their sign was in charge.
And I would argue that the Democrats did not do nearly enough when Biden was in charge
to oppose his funding of what Israel had done in those years, including the genocide.
Well, I think it's fair.
I mean, look, Massey and I had worked on a war powers resolution to actually call out some
of Trump's, Biden's, unilateral strikes on the Houthis.
One of the reasons Massey and I have this relationship is we've done,
stood up against militarism and unconstitutional militarism, whether there was a Democrat or a Republican.
And we did call out Biden. And of course, there were 37 of us who voted against the funding to
Netmiao who, while Biden was president. But could we have done more? Absolutely. And you know,
it's important to realize people say, Roewe, appreciate your courage taking on the Epstein class,
taking on billionaires in the billionaire tax. But the consequences I faced,
pale in comparison to the consequences that Thomas Massey is facing on Tuesday, where he has the
entire presidential apparatus against him, $35 million against him, or the consequences
Marjor Taylor Green faced.
And that is not a subjective statement.
That is just a statement of fact.
When you take on your own party, the risk is much higher in these issues.
Yeah, and Tom Massey is going to be on the Young Turks on Monday, so check that out as
as well.
All right, so I'm gonna skip the ad break we're supposed to have
because I wanna make sure I squeeze in one more story
because it's so relevant to Roe.
So Roe, I'm gonna read you a statement
that President Trump wrote about you.
So buckle up, okay?
So President Trump said this about you, Roe-Kana.
The sleazebag, radical left congressman
from the failed state of California,
Roe-Conna should not be allowed on Fox
news unless you have an anchor who is capable of disputing his lies, one after another
and closing down his fake bull crap narrative.
He said a different word than crap.
But anyway, he is similar, but worse than Hakeem Jeffries, only with a somewhat higher IQ.
You got a little bit of a compliment there at the end.
So we've got more from the president attacking you, but what's your response to that?
Well, first of all, it's interesting because he never attacked me on Epstein, right?
I mean, he never went there on Epstein.
Why did this get under his skin?
Because I was there in western Pennsylvania and Meadsville in Johnstown.
I was in factory towns like Warren, Ohio and Lourgetown, Ohio.
And I was saying that Trump, why do we have Chinese steel here?
Why have we betrayed the manufacturers here?
Why are we losing manufacturing jobs?
Why are you more concerned with doing the service of big corporations than you are the workers and
forgotten Americans you campaigned on?
And the fact that it got under his skin, the fact that this is what he chose to attack me on,
fundamentally, it might be shows the way forward for the Democratic Party, which is we've got
to talk about in economics that actually works for working Americans, that actually works for
the heartland and the Black South and the aspirational Latino community that actually
is about giving people economic independence and being for team America.
And that if we do that and if we paint him as beholden to a global elite that is selling
out the working class, well, we could win in almost any state in this country.
And Trump's reaction shows that.
Why is it that this is the issue that got under his skin?
And why is he saying that I'm somewhat intelligent.
I'm obviously he's a racist in some ways in terms of insulting people who are black in terms
of their intelligence.
But he's basically saying like kind of understands what I've been saying and he's co-opting it.
And, you know, I don't like it.
Well, we're co-opting it with actual substance.
We're saying, yeah, these folks have been screwed.
Here's what we want to do going forward.
Yeah.
So in fact, we're going to show a clip of Roe here and what got what seems to have gotten
Trump agitated in the first place.
Let's watch it.
I want to get your thoughts on the China trip because you're doing this tour across three states.
Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan, talking about competition with China.
And I want to ask, you know, what do you hope to achieve with that?
And how does it relate, if any, to what the president's trying to effort overseas next week?
The president needs to make it clear to China that they should not be opening up manufacturing
in the United States, subsidizing it and violating the law.
And the final point is that they shouldn't be engaged in subsidies of their industry and dumping.
When I was in Cleveland at the Port of Cleveland, I was horrified to see Chinese steel there.
Why aren't we getting that from Cleveland Cliff or an American steel company?
John Moulinard, who's the chair of the China Committee and I have worked together.
We don't want any Chinese connected cars in the United States.
We need to protect American cars.
We want to have a steel, be American steel, not be importing Chinese steel.
And we don't want China playing unfairly.
I mean, some of these companies that they're setting up in the United States, they're not, they're violating labor,
laws and they simply are not competing on a level playing fair.
Man, that got all the way under Trump skin.
And I think Roe might be right that it's because he's basically stealing his, you know,
America First Mantle and stealing it how by actually doing it, saying let's actually do it.
So bro, I'm gonna read you one more quote, man, he was mad at you.
He said the morning he tried on behalf of Democrats to take credit for the steel industry
posturing back into the US or pouring back into the US, no,
Going full well that Dums virtually destroyed it and I saved it through strong tariffs.
Plus, our country was dead during the last administration and now it's hotter than ever before.
We can't allow the Democrats to take credit for this.
If elected, they will fully destroy our thriving and now very respected nation.
Yeah, by the way, it's good that we have a president who's gotten to his 12th birthday and calls Democrats Democrats.
But okay, overall, what's your take on this level of vitriol against you?
Well, as you put it, I mean, he knows that this, I have his number, that the way he got
to the presidency twice is reeling against institutions that had failed and betrayed the working
class.
He had no real solutions.
I mean, he says, all I'm doing is tariffs.
Well, you can't build things if you're not going to invest in the factories, if you're not
going to invest in the workers.
We didn't, we've never done that as a country.
But he had the right diagnosis of the problem.
And the Democrats basically were saying everything's going well.
And he was saying, no, it's not.
And now he sees the Democrat saying, yeah, things aren't going well.
But Trump isn't fixing it.
He's making it worse.
Here's how you actually fix it.
By the way, one other just side note, this is also why you should go on Fox News and make these cases.
I mean, I know you may think this is, you know, hard to believe.
but 90% of my colleagues don't believe we should go on Fox or don't go on Fox.
Well, how are you going to appeal to people who voted for Trump if you're not willing to go
on to forums, which they may be listening?
And the fact that you don't get a rise at a Trump, if you're just on one of the safer networks,
shows the need to do things like go on Fox and engage with the other side.
Yeah, in fact, that's what bothered Trump even more.
He's not done yet.
He's got two more insults for you.
Okay, and it's related to exactly what you said there.
He said, you could listen to Fox News all day long, absolutely devourer,
but then when you hear sleaze bags like Congressman Rocano, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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That's interesting.
His sheep's clothing.
I wonder why he thinks that.
Lie, lie, lie, and lie again.
Without any pushback or competent rebuttal from an anchor, in this case, Jackie Heinrich,
the entire commissist dialogue that has been going on all day at Fox is completely.
obliterated. He continues, no matter how fair and balance the day's news at Fox may be,
the end result is destroyed by professional liars, common, and liberal, crooked politicians.
This is why Magu Republicans who are actually close to 100% of the party hate Fox,
despite the wonderful contributions made by so many of their great anchors and commentators,
hard to win elections like this. He seems to be saying it's hard to win elections
if you allow Ro Khanna to actually talk to our voters.
I mean, isn't that the ultimate admission? Basically saying if you have a guy like Roe Kana talking about economics and the betrayal of working class Americans and talking about bringing American manufacturing jobs bike with real plans, then it is hard for us to win back, win elections. And he's basically telling Democrats what we need to do. Go talk about economics, go talking about the working class, go on Fox. And yet it hasn't broken through. I mean, I hope folks will.
see that and you should have 50 Democrats on Fox, on News Nation, on conservative podcasts,
making our case.
Yeah, and the last thing is, I found it interesting that he's called you a wolf and sheep's
clothing.
Why would you be in sheep's clothing?
You're not a Republican.
You're a Democrat.
You're on the opposite side.
So you're a wolf and wolf's clothing theoretically when you look at it from partisan point
of view.
But I think he meant because you're a true populist and it was kind of projection
where that old line about how every accusation is a confession.
He's the fake populist, the wolf and sheep's clothing.
He's projecting that onto you and saying yes, he is, Roe is a populist, but hey, just trust
me because I'm a Republican.
I thought that was telling.
What did you think of that?
I agree with the internet says, look, the guy won two elections to become president of the United States.
It would be foolish to underestimate the appeal he had.
And he's basically saying, this guy, I have to acknowledge he's intelligent because he basically gets that economic populism is what the country needs.
But don't believe him because he's not being truthful.
Whereas the reality is I'm exposing Trump as the sham economic populace.
But this is the battleground, Jang. Who is the true economic populist? And they're not going to hand it to us.
They're not going to come in a silver platter and saying, bro Kana is the economic populace.
We got to fight for that every hour, every day, every week, every month to convince folks that we really have the better economic platform and are the true economic populace.
And Trump is a sham. But if we're not on the battlefield and if we're not engaged in that battle, we certainly aren't going to win.
Yeah, no, that was a startling admission by Donald Trump that if you allow left wing economic
populace to talk to our voters, we're done for.
He said we can't win elections if you allow that, because he knows left wing populism
is real populism and fake populism wouldn't stand a chance against it.
So thank you for the confession, President Trump, we appreciate it.
And Roe, we really appreciate you joining us as co-hosts today on the Young Turks.
Really interesting and wonderful experiment.
Thank you for doing it.
Thank you for having me.
And I look forward to getting all the comments and the engagement.
Love being on.
All right, thank you.
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Okay, Elliot, what's next?
Well, folks, if you are already upset while you are pumping gas for your car,
just take a deep breath, get centered a little bit, stop swearing at the Lord for a second.
Because guess what?
It could get a lot worse really soon if the straight of Hormuz remains shut.
Because globally, we are running out of our emergency,
oil supply. And the closer we get to running out of that supply, the more money you're going to
cough up at the gas station, which brings us to our first question of this hour. Jank, how much
are you willing to spend to fill up your gas? I mean, we're both in Los Angeles. I assume it's,
you know, what are you? 20 dollars a gallon, I guess. So, but we laugh, but we shouldn't because,
so yes, gas here in L.A. is up to $7. And if this keeps going in the way that we're about to
explain to you, I think it'll go into double digits.
I don't think it'll go to $10 here in Los Angeles.
And we're gonna give you the receipts on that in a second, but how much am I willing
to pay extra every time I go to fill up my gas, gas just so that Israel can destroy another
neighbor, kill their citizens, and try to install a puppet regime in there that'll completely
obey Israel's orders.
Zero, I'm willing to pay absolutely zero for that.
I couldn't care less about Israel's foreign policy demands, but I didn't get bribed by them and they don't have blackmail on me.
So that's what separates me from almost everyone in Washington.
Okay, so tell us how much damage they're going to do, though, Sally.
I mean, I think you should tell that to this White House.
But yeah, the shortage spiked over the past two months in March and April.
Gee, I wonder what happened.
Now, according to data from the International Energy Agency, the global supply of oil dropped 250 million barrels.
This data shows the global supply of emergency oil from 2021 until now.
And I don't know if you can tell, but there are two very large lines to the right of it that are plunging downward toward the pits of hell.
So you can see how much oil was used and replaced in the global inventory.
You can see the two major drops this year.
That's March and April.
On this chart, the last consistent drops were in 2021, and we spent a majority of 2025 replenishing the supply.
Global oil inventories, which include onshore tanks and oil floating on tankers at sea and are a measure of the slack and energy markets have fallen at a record pace since the start of the war.
They plunged by 250 million barrels over March and April, according to the International Energy Agency.
that is equal to around two and a half days of global oil use.
That is from the Wall Street Journal.
So who is standing to be most affected by this?
Well, the country's on the verge of critical scarcity include India and Thailand and Taiwan.
As for us here in the United States, our stock of oil is likely to fall below 100 million barrels in May,
which would be the lowest level since 2003.
And I recall something else going on in the Middle East around that time,
but I can't recall exactly what it was.
Right now, according to AAA, the national gas price is $4.52 a gallon.
And prices could jump over $5 per gallon if the straight does not open.
Also, it's not just gasoline for your car, just in case no one's clear on that.
The implications of an oil supply shortage are vast.
prices at the gas pump are already touching their highest levels in years in the U.S.
and could shoot higher when stocks run low.
Airlines are reorganizing flights to adapt to potential shortages of jet fuel.
Central bank decisions over whether to raise interest rates will depend, in large part,
on whether oil markets remain well supplied.
So countries are working to save that oil by doing a few things.
They're imposing fuel-saving measures, and they are cutting refinery runs,
and they have restricted product exports to conserve domestic supplies.
However, and I think this is the most interesting part,
if the straight continues to stay closed,
barrels of oil could top $130 to $140 next month.
But even if the straight were to suddenly open up all of the sudden,
that doesn't mean that the flow of oil isn't going to bounce right back.
Clearing possible mines, repairing infrastructure,
and untangling maritime logistics,
will push the resumption of normal shipping traffic back by at least two to three months.
So that all sounds pretty horrible. I can imagine if it's at least two to three months, it could very easily stretch across the holidays, maybe even into the new year.
Jank, what are your thoughts on this?
Yeah, so I think that oil is going to go past $150.
I think that us attacking Iran again is imminent.
It could be as early as tomorrow.
And I would be really surprised if it wasn't within 10 days.
And so when we re-attack all these bad news that you're hearing from Elliott here in regards
of the oil industry, you can go ahead and double them, quadruple them, and then you've got the
lagging indicators.
are now rising on foods and all the other things that oil effects.
So coffee's up 19%, flights are up 21%, tomatoes are up 40%.
Now take that and double them, because oil is going to go much, much, much higher when we're
re-engage in the war with Iran.
So I think what's going to happen next, Elliot, after that, is a political debacle like
we haven't seen in a long time leading to a nearly physical rebellion and a political
upheaval.
Because Elliot, we're already at people super angry at these prices.
When these prices go up significantly, I don't think people will tolerate it, especially
now that most Americans know that it was just for Israel.
And today, Donald Trump said we didn't need the war, we did it for Israel.
He just admitted it, right?
And when you take that clip and you put out those gas prices next to it, I think the Republicans are going to have a catastrophe on their hands like they've never seen.
Yep, it does seem like an absolute catastrophe.
And it seems like untold horrors that are just around the corner that are going to have some kind of butterfly effect throughout all of America.
And to make matters even worse and also maybe a little bit cartoonish, which seems to be kind of an MO of this administration.
We actually have pirates again.
So we have that going for us.
Congratulations. We did it.
Joe, we finally had it happen.
We have pirates, commercial ships having to reroute due to the war in Iran,
and thus they're taking longer detours around Africa's southern tip.
So not only does this add weeks to vessel trips,
which adds more money,
but it also costs $1 million in additional expenses per ship
due to fuel insurance and operational costs.
This detour is pushing traffic directly, also, into the volatile Somali basin.
So things have been previously pretty chill around that area.
But now in the past few weeks, pirates have done a string of hijackings.
According to a May 12th advisory from the United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations, or UKMTO,
Somali pirates are currently holding at least three vessels.
two oil tankers and a general cargo slash cement carrier.
Also, according to the UKMTO, which alerts shipping firms about maritime security risks,
they confirmed the vessels were captured between April 21st and May 2nd,
including one ship hijacked off the Yemen coast and diverted to Somalia.
Also, just as a refresher in case anybody forgot, Somali pirates were a very big deal back in like late 2005.
They went away, but not forever.
And, you know, I would say good to see them, but they're not the kind of fun pirates that most people would like.
So at its peak in 2011, Somali piracy hit a record 237 incidents costing the global economy.
$7 billion.
During that year, over 3,800 mariners faced attacks involving assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, which is a troubling history that experts fear is beginning to repeat itself.
The European Union's naval force Operation Atlanta
acknowledged the recent rise in piracy
in an update last month. The force said it had successfully
liberated an Iranian flagged vessel off the coast of Somalia
after forcing pirates who had hijacked the show to abandon it.
But the solution from the EU naval force
is basically just like, hey, be careful, don't get hurt, I guess.
So in addition to the pirates, we also have an incredible strategy called Good Luck, which is really beautiful.
So having patrolled these waters for nearly two decades, the naval force urged transiting vessels to, quote,
maintain heightened vigilance and report suspicious activity.
So just, you know, keep an eye out, I guess, because we have to go to this.
We have to do the war.
It doesn't matter how much it costs or whether or not we have actual literal.
pirates coming to get us. Our priority, or at least Trump's priority is apparently Iran can't
have a nuclear weapon or his priority is he just has to make sure that he does whatever Israel
wants. So, Jank, what do you make of this? Yeah, they didn't have a nuclear weapon. They had no
chance of a nuclear weapons. So we're gonna dismiss that completely. Look, I'm hoping that the Somalia
pirates take down the Cardinals and the Brewers next year. And I understand that they're the captains
now. So eventually we're gonna be taken down by a guy who does,
who does this inside his jacket and goes, give me all your money.
So now we got our asses handed to us by Iran and the Strait of Hormuz.
We're losing to a bunch of Somali pirates.
Meanwhile, Trump's like, hey, I'm going with Project Freedom.
We're going to reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
We're going to put my warships through it.
And then our warships got hit.
We turned right back around.
Project Freedom lasted literally a day and a half.
And then they're like, we're done with Project Freedom.
We lost to the pirates.
We're worried the Reds are going to beat us next.
So this is, I mean, an epic embarrassment, humiliation.
I mean, as always, Israel drove us into this.
We have no business in there at all.
Trump said today, yeah, we did it for Israel.
So we're going to destroy our economy and now reignite conflict all across the world.
Instead of reducing around's power or the Somali pirates or the Houthis or the Houthis
that we're going to increase their power, all so we can make Benjamin Netanyahu happy.
I just need you guys to remember the next time you're at the pump and the time after
that and the time after that until all of this is gone.
We had no interest in this war.
We had no reason to get hurt.
We didn't need to lose those service members who died.
We didn't need to deplete basically half our munitions and intercept their missiles, maybe more.
We didn't need to get humiliated like this and we didn't need to pay all of this price
just to make a foreign government the size of Papua New Guinea happy.
And remember, they're not doing it because, oh my God, as Biden used to say, I'm the
Zionist, I've always been a true believer Zionist.
Who wakes up and is like, I'm a Norwegian nationalist?
Why would you care about the nationalism of a different country?
No, they all got bribed by Israel's supporters here in America.
And now we're all having to pay the price for it.
And don't you forget it?
All right.
Yep.
Elliot, any other thoughts?
I mean, it blows my, I think the last numbers I saw too was like 3,700 people dead as a result of this war.
And also, I mean, I just remember growing up and you might have disagreed with a war for moral reasons.
But there's something very embarrassing about this entire operation.
And I just think it's an incredibly new development in our foreign policy.
I'm not used to as a millennial being like, wow, this is kind of cringe.
what they're doing.
There's no longer any kind of power, I think, that they've been projecting.
Yeah, cringy is the least of it.
And we're going to be super mad soon if a lot of folks are already mad.
And by the way, this doesn't even get into the farmers who are being bankrupted and will never be able to get their farms back.
All the other businesses that are totally going out of business and will not be able to recover any of that.
And at the end, I guarantee you, the very richest people in the country, the oil company,
etc. will say, oh, we need a bailout. And so forget this average American gets screwed.
We want to bail out. And the oil companies make so much money. I mean, it would be unconscionable,
right? But at the very, very end, though, which is, oh, this is one is nearly guaranteed.
After we've depleted our military, we've wasted tens of billions, maybe hundreds of billions
on this war, Israel's going to turn around at the end and say, well, you know, I lost a lot of
weaponry there and we got hit a bunch of times. America, you now owe me more and you need to
help me rebuild this, that, and the other thing, you owe me tens of billions of dollars.
Here, you pay our gas bill, Israel. You pay our 29 billion. We were already spent on this war,
and you pay every dollar of this war and every dollar extra that we have to pay for gas
here in America, every American citizen, then I'll begin to listen to you again about what we
might or might not owe you.
And of course, the correct answer to what we owe them is nothing, absolutely nothing.
And if anyone tells you otherwise, they're purposely lying to you and manipulating you
to get you to hand over your wallet and to serve a foreign government.
And you should ask them why they're doing that to you.
Because that is a very bizarre thing to do.
All right, we gotta take a break when we come back.
More disastrous news.
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Seventh Fire Stephanie says,
why is Israel allowed to have nukes and not be any part of a nuclear peace agreement?
Make it make sense.
No, they literally go around and saying like, yeah, of course we don't have to listen to any stupid laws.
We're above the law.
And we all go, oh, you mighty Israel, of course, we bow.
We bow.
And no so-called journalist in national media is like, hey, why the hell do you get to break every single law?
Why do you get to have weapons of mass destruction?
Which, by the way, you stole from us.
You're not allowed to ask any of those things.
Otherwise, these days it doesn't work.
But mainstream media are the thugs who work for Israel will come and try to ruin your life.
Anti-Sabite, how dare you bow to Israel?
Sorry, that was my calm Jake Tapper impression.
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Elliot, what's next?
Well, you know, Donald Trump is always the master of the art of the deal, I guess.
So he might be exchanging his $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS for just a $1.7 billion slush fund of taxpayer money to be gifted to those who say they were wrongly targeted by Biden's DOJ.
This is what you get when you have a mob boss as a president.
So we have ABC reporting that the commission.
overseeing the compensation fund would have the total authority to hand out approximately
$1.7 billion in taxpayer funds to settle claims brought by anyone who alleges they were harmed
by the Biden administration's quote weaponization of the legal system, including the nearly
1,600 individuals charged in connection with the January 6th capital attack, as well as potential
entities associated with President Trump himself.
And in addition to a public apology from the IRS, the compensation fund is believed to be the main condition for Trump to drop a series of legal actions he filed against the federal government, including a $10 billion lawsuit related to the 2019 leak of his tax returns, as well as $230 million in legal claims related to the 2022 search of his Mar-Lago state and the Russia collusion investigation.
he faced during his first term in office.
Sources familiar with the ongoing deliberation said.
So it's nice when you have someone at the various,
very highest, excuse me,
purchase of office in this country who knows how to hold a grudge so much
or at least never, ever forgive and forget.
So despite the purported settlement stipulating that Trump cannot receive any compensation
related to those legal claims,
Trump-affiliated entities are not barred from filing their own.
So it's sort of like, you know, it's like the pirate thing.
Go to God.
The timing of the suggested settlement is convenient for Trump,
considering that Judge Kathleen Williams,
who is overseeing Trump's lawsuit against the IRS,
asked Trump's team to justify next week why they think the case should proceed.
So writing in a court ruling,
although President Trump averse that he is bringing this lawsuit in his personal capacity,
he is the sitting president and his named adversaries are entities
whose decisions are subject to his direction.
Indeed, President Trump's own remarks about this matter
acknowledge the unique dynamic of this litigation.
So the idea of a compensation fund for MAGA loyalists
has been on Trump's mind for quite a while.
Last year, when Newsmax asked him
if he would consider such a fund for the January 6th rioters
in that act of domestic terrorism,
that he blanketly pardoned Trump said a lot of the people that are in government now talk about it.
And over the last year, the Justice Department has utilized a so-called, quote, weaponization working group
to examine what it is described as abuses of power by the Biden administration,
identifying cases of alleged anti-conservative and anti-Christian bias claims that are disputed by former officials.
Trump's proposed commission is expected to be composed of five members who had issued,
monetary awards based on a majority vote and the process for rewarding money and the identities
of the recipient could be kept private according to the sources. So the proposed compensation fund
is expected to face numerous legal objections for a very good reason and has generated a ton
of bipartisan ethical concerns with even Trump admitting last year that yeah, quote,
sort of looks bad. You could say that. Now he offered to give any money he gained from the venture to
charity, and we all know his record with charity. Still, as ABC points out, the arrangement would be an
unprecedented use of taxpayer dollars with little oversight. Under the terms of the potential
settlement agreement, President Trump would have the authority to remove members of the commission
running the fund without cause, and the commission would be under no obligation to disclose its
procedures or decision-making process for awarding more than a billion dollars, the sources said.
The proposed creation of the compensation fund has led some administration officials to raise ethical concerns about the arrangement, stemming not only from Trump suing his own government, but also having control of an entity that can freely hand out $1.7 billion to his allies.
It's like it's the corruption that it just doesn't stop.
I think they just do so much of it.
That way we don't actually notice it.
Now, the DOJ, Treasury Department, and the IRS have not as of yet provided any kind of comment.
I wonder why.
But as a spokesperson for Trump's legal team told ABC News, the IRS wrongly allowed a rogue, politically motivated employee
to leak private and confidential information about President Trump, his family and the Trump organization
to the New York Times, ProPublica, and other left-wing news outlets, which was then illegally released to millions of people.
President Trump continues to hold those who wrong America and Americans accountable.
Except it seems like it's more of a personal vendetta and just a grudge that he continues to hold as he sort of shuffles off his mortal coil.
Now, at this point, Americans are mostly numb to the pain of their tax dollars being spent in ways they don't agree with.
But just because you are numb to something doesn't mean that the knife still isn't going inside you.
So does this feel like a bridge too far? I think it does, even for where we're at right now.
But Jink, what do you think about it?
Yeah, disaster on several grounds.
This comes close to breaking the corruption record.
So a president goes in and goes, I'm suing my own government.
Hey, government, give me money.
Insanity. There's no way this should be legal.
And not a little bit, like, oh, you leaked my tax.
records, now give me 1.7 million, that would be extraordinary.
I mean, for that number, I think most Americans would be like, please leak my tax records,
right?
But he didn't ask for a million.
He asked for 1.7 billion.
No, that's not true.
He asked for 10 billion, but it's willing to settle for 1.7 billion for that transgression.
Okay, hold, I'm gonna come back to that.
But Egypt 5 is a member on TYT.com, and they wrote in saying,
I was harmed by Biden's DOJ.
It didn't aggressively prosecute the dear leader
resulting in the last year and a half of harms and insults.
I plan to ask for $1.6 billion.
God bless America.
Yeah, so are we all now going to ask for billions of dollars
because we feel slightly harmed or maybe even actually harmed?
I mean, there was a leak of his tax records.
You can sue over that if you were a regular person
and not the president of the United States
that actually controls the both sides of the case.
And of course, this case was going to get thrown out soon.
The judge had asked for this giant commission, and she was saying, look, it's self-dealing 101.
What do we do with this?
When the president is basically suing his own government, it's kind of mental.
And she was going to have a ruling on it on May 20th.
So they're like, let's go, let's go, let's do a settlement.
So she won't toss the case.
Hurry up and do the robbery.
Get out of the, let's go.
We need a really fast car to leave the bank before they catch us.
So guys, now, where the 1.7 billion goes.
So a lot of these greasy politicians on both sides do these things where they funnel a ton of money to their allies, and a lot of times to their family members.
And so that way they don't have to pay them.
So that way they save a ton of money themselves.
So I'll give you a Democratic example.
You remember the Clinton Foundation?
Oh my God, the Clintons care so much about global health or something.
And so do the Saudis who are giving all this money to that foundation.
Wink, okay?
And a bunch of other people.
No, they were housing their staff there so that when Hillary ran for president later,
they would all come over.
And then they go, oh, well, look, we are having some controversy around the Clinton Foundation.
We will now shut it down.
Oh, look, the staff that we were paying through that, now are all Hillary Clinton's staff on our presidential team.
And that's how these cheesy games are played.
So Trump is gonna do a ton of that. God knows where the money's gonna go. Meanwhile, Hunter Biden's going, why didn't we think of this? I did these two-bit scams of modern art and stuff. We could have just had dad give me $1.7 billion. And so the entire time, Beavis and Budhead and most importantly, Jared Kushner are snickering in the court going, Hunter couldn't figure it out. Amateur, hold our beer. Okay. So finally, what a ridiculous precedent this would set?
And if you're a Republican and you're one of those like seven, 80 year olds that are still left watching Fox News going, Donald Trump is amazing.
He has my best interest in mine.
That's why he robbed me.
That's why he took my money.
Remember, he's taking your money.
This is going to come out of our paychecks.
You're going to pay Donald Trump and his allies and his staff and all those guys, let alone the January 6th guys out of your pocket.
For what?
But you're one of those people?
Well, how about the precedent that you're said?
So the next time a Democrats at office, they can hand themselves and their allies several billion dollars, whether it's to family members like Hunter Biden or maybe to their favorite group that does protests, like Antifa.
Because remember the January 6th guys were violent, they were arrested, they were convicted, and this is basically a slush fund for anyone willing to do violence on behalf of Donald Trump.
Now if you think, well, that's okay, he's my guy, they'd be doing violence for me.
What if the next guy then goes, oh yeah, you wanted a $2 billion slush fund?
I want a $20 billion slush fund.
Now the reality is there is no organized Antifa and the Democrats hate.
If it existed, Democratic politicians would hate it.
And so there's not very much chance of that.
But you are saying, yeah, I'm opening the door.
The president can rob the American taxpayer, give it to his allies.
people that will do violence for him and his staff.
And Elliot, I can't imagine a worse precedent than that.
No, he's absolutely the worst.
I think the best point you brought up is one that makes me want to pull my hair out,
which is the folks sitting at home being like, well, you know, he's already rich.
So he's clearly not in this for the money.
It's like every chance this guy has gotten.
He's pilfered the American people.
And this is just the latest example of it.
Yeah.
Get your dirty orange hands out of our pockets.
Please.
All right, we gotta take another break.
When we come back, we have a crazed Republican grandma attacking a young kid.
I'm not joking, we'll be back.
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Donna delayed writes in on TOT.com.
I don't care who rose in 2028.
I'm voting for Roe.
Nerd Ferguson writes in, China could take the AIPAC route and fund our politicians and
we'd actually pay and supply China to attack Taiwan.
By the way, that is true.
If China found a way to give campaign contributions to our politicians.
Are you kidding me?
We say, oh, come on in, take our AI, take our nuclear technology, take any technology
you like, take here's $300 billion dollars, you want us to pay for attacking Taiwan, no problem.
Would you like to take South Korea?
Would you like to take Philippines?
How else we will finance $8 trillion of wars for you?
So it would be absurd if we did that for China or anyone else.
But every liar in Washington, every liar on television says it's not absurd when we do it for Israel.
Only people who have hatred in their hearts would object when we do it for Israel.
Okay.
So let's go to Super Chat.
So Pakistani American Hawk Sentinel rights in Roe Kana, we must create legal barriers against
these lobbyists bribery funds and stop the war mongering if Congress won't act.
Will international organizations and NATO allies begin sanctioning the U.S. to stop this?
What are some strategies that you are thinking of?
So brother, sorry, Rose, I know you wrote it in the first hour.
It's a good question.
I'll just say this.
You don't have to go to any foreigners.
Just get money out of politics.
Constitutional Amendment will do it.
Atmosphere writes in, reason why AOC won't work with MTG and light on any Israel pushback is because she's trying to run for president in the future.
Yep.
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who is a sprightly 82 year old republican congresswoman with a doctorate in education that'll be important
in a second recently schooled a 10 year old on how his teacher is brainwashing him about climate change
you know climate change otherwise known as every 82 year old's most boring nightmare now jenk i personally am of the belief uh that
Even if you aren't into climate change, you are somehow still in climate change, which we can get to in a second.
But first, any thoughts that you have about an 82-year-old elected official mocking a 10-year-old boy?
Yeah, you know, I think that's really what we want our representatives doing because they don't pass any bills other than tax cuts for the rich or more for Israel.
So find a 10-year-old and yell at him.
That seems like a good strategy.
Let's show you how Virginia Fox did it.
Yeah, when you have little kids reaching out to their leaders, you definitely want to terrorize them as soon as possible so they don't actually stay involved in politics.
So let's turn now to this 10-year-old named Christian Mango who received a pretty straightforward assignment in school.
The assignment was to write an essay on a topic of his choosing that he felt passionate about and then send that essay, send that letter to a person in a position of authority.
Christian chose climate change.
He wrote about the benefits of electric cars and suggested a $5,000 tax rebate to EV owners.
That all sounds relatively reasonable.
Now, he told Fox 8, they're better than normal cars.
They're better for the environment.
They pay less and there's no gas.
Again, very reasonable, this 10-year-old.
Also urged Fox to join the fight against climate change, concluding his essay with, quote,
Maybe there is still a chance for 6.5 million people to not die anymore and for the weather to get better.
Just maybe glaciers stop melting.
Now, I don't know about you, but if I get a letter like that, I'm going to be very empathetic toward a young child who's worried about climate change.
So what did Representative Fox say in response?
Well, after sending the fourth grader some literature on what she called the disastrous effect,
of efforts to address climate change.
Fox also said,
incidentally, please ask
your teacher to explain propaganda to you.
While I will never
be able to know my guess is
that your teachers will not give you a good
educational experience and
help you learn to think
as they are too interested in
indoctrinating you.
How sad. Yes,
how sad. That is someone with a
doctorate in education, who
was unaware, apparently,
that like he chose the topic.
Anyway, on a completely unrelated note,
El Nino is on its way and odds are it will be historically strong.
According to the climate prediction center,
the odds of El Nino stretching through the winter has increased 96%.
There's also a two out of three chance.
It will be strong or very strong,
a.k.a. bad or very, very bad.
Now, on Monday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
or NOAA, said it is very,
likely this year will be one of the top five warmest years on record. Now, speaking of the NOAA,
Erica Spanger from the Union of Concern scientists wrote on Wednesday, budget and staff cuts to
NOAA, including the National Hurricane Center and National Weather Service, have put the forecasting,
early warning, and science capacity that communities depend on to stay safe in jeopardy. And the destruction
goes deeper, including the disbanding of the national climate assessment and the targeting
of the National Center for Atmospheric Research for dismantling as the administration seeks
to systematically erase the federal government's ability to track, understand, and communicate
our climate risk. So, you know, just to recap here real quick, you have Virginia Fox,
who is 82 years old, telling a child that he's being brainwashed and that the government can't
afford some $5,000 EV rebates. But that is strange because, according to Representative
Rokana and Senator Jeff Merkley, Big Oil collects $34.8 billion in subsidies annually, and that is on top
of the $100 billion that they get in annual profits. So I guess the question is where is all of that
money going? Well, as fate would have it, at least some of it is going to Virginia Fox, who by the way,
is 82 years old. She's received roughly $10,000 from the Coke Industries, a major oil producer
in her most recent election cycle. And then thousands more, she received every cycle going back
to at least 2012. She also has roughly a quarter million dollars invested in energy and natural
resources, a category largely made up of, you guessed it, big oil. And just to make sure we are
all fully, I guess, unprepared for all of this devastation.
Last week, Trump's FEMA Review Council released its final report and their recommendation.
Yep, it is time to close the chapter on FEMA.
So great.
What a time to, I guess, still be alive, Jank.
What are your thoughts on this?
Do you have any 10-year-olds that you would like to yell at right now?
So, no, I'm actually somewhat known for yelling, but not a children.
So that's not a direction, even I would go in.
So I don't know why the Republicans have decided it's okay to terrorize children.
On a much lighter note, remember when Trump was talking to a seven-year-old during Christmas
in his first term?
He's taking calls, it's supposed to be a cute little thing, and he says to him, are you still
A little believer in Santa?
Because it's seven, it's marginal, right?
Don't, don't, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Don't do that.
So, and now Virginia Fox is like, hold my beer.
Okay, listen to me, you little rascal, you serve the oil companies.
And if they give you a climate change, eat the climate change, you like it.
Okay, all right, all right, Virginia, bring it down.
Now here's what I wished she would do instead.
I don't know, maybe stop funding the things.
$35 billion in oil subsidies?
But that's outrageous.
Think about it, guys.
That is nearly 10 times the amount that Israel gets every year.
We're all super upset and we're upset for good reason.
They committed a genocide, drag this in awards, et cetera.
But as far as an annual subsidy goes, big oil gets 10 times the number.
And they have $100 billion in profit.
When do we get the $100 billion in profits?
Wait a minute, if we're funding them, why don't we have equity in the oil companies?
Because that's how capitalism works.
You finance something and you get equity in that company.
But the American people are what, suckers?
We just have to give them $35 billion every year, even though they're already making $100 billion.
What the hell do they need that for?
And the reality is they don't need it at all.
It is an unmitigated robbery.
Those oil companies are robbing us blind.
And the disgusting evil people that are helping them do it are people like Virginia Fox.
and Virginia Fox is deeply corrupt, but to be fair to her, almost all of Congress is just
as corrupt as her. So that is why, under Republican and Democratic administrations, as the
Democrats play good cop, oh, we are against climate change, we are against the oil companies,
golly, gee, we didn't notice the $35 billion in oil subsidies. Once again, who's the one guy
who noticed, Rocana, okay? So, and Merckley, to be fair, good Senator.
from the northwest.
So
we should all be collectively
yelling at our politicians
who are betraying us
and literally robbing us every single
day to give that money
to their donors.
And usually based on how much they got
bribed by those companies.
Those bribes have been now legalized by the Supreme
Court. They're called campaign contributions, but they are
bribes nevertheless.
Virginia Fox didn't wake up one day and go,
You know what? I'm thinking for just for no reason, for charity, for the general welfare.
I think why I should take Tom and Susie's money in South Carolina.
They're already too wealthy. I mean, they could even afford lunch for their kids.
Let's take their money. Give me your goddamn wallet, okay, and give it to the oil companies.
And if you complain, you're an anti-oilist.
Elliot, I mean, what are we going to do with this level of corruption?
You know what it is, really?
Well, sorry, well, I say it's adding literal insult to injury.
Why yelling at this kid?
He deserved so much better than that.
Poor kid was doing his best.
And what a like pure thing to actually be concerned about.
Also, if Virginia Fox wants to be worried a little bit about propaganda,
read merchants of doubt, like the propaganda began with the oil companies that she received
money from and that many of our congresspeople received money from.
They hired some of the same people who told the American people that cigarettes weren't bad.
for lung cancer and they used the same methodology. They fired the scientists that discovered it,
that discovered it was actually a result of fossil fuels and then unleashed one of the greatest
propaganda campaigns in human history. But apparently Virginia Fox isn't that interested in that
stuff. Yeah. All right, let's see we're gonna squeeze it one more story. Let's go to Luty Tunes.
In the media, America is not in decline. We remain the strongest military power on earth,
But that power requires renewal. And with global threats that are constantly evolving,
it's time to make a $1.5 trillion investment, a generational down payment.
Yeah, so I guess everyone needs a backup plan at some point. And apparently if Hegset's role
as defense secretary doesn't work out, he's already got something else lined up,
which is being the host of a children's show. Wouldn't you agree,
Jank? Did you enjoy that? Did you feel stimulated? Yeah, absolutely. You know what?
maybe fire Ms. Rachel for being so anti-genocide and bringing a guy who is helping the genocide,
do a kid show, that sounds like a good idea. He said generational down payment. Is it, brother?
Because once you increase the budget to $1.5 trillion, you're not going to bring it back down.
You're going to keep on increasing it. One of the things I care about here, Elliot, is,
gee, I wonder why this war that is we're going so well needs so much extra money. But tell us all about it.
Yeah, well, as it turns out, that video is real. It was not made by a troll. It was in fact an official Department of War promotional video, thus further cementing the memeification of the United States. So it was uploaded by Pete Higgseth to sell Trump's $1.5 trillion defense budget proposal, which to put in perspective equals Amazon, Google's parent company, and Apple's annual revenue all.
combined. So what will that money be used for? Well, don't worry, folks. Pete Hegesith is here to teach us a lesson.
America's $1.5 trillion investment guarantees that the United States military will maintain this
advantage against any adversary, anywhere at any time. Here's why. A historic $756 billion of the defense
budget, more than half of it, will be allocated to investments in new capabilities. That means,
factories, technology, and jobs.
It also means spending $100 billion to advance the next generation of American air power.
We're advancing the largest shipbuilding request since 1962, including $10 billion into our maritime industrial base.
We're committing nearly $18 billion to operationalize Golden Dome for America to defend the homeland.
We're providing the largest investment in drone warfare and space capabilities ever.
We're reshoring our critical mineral sector to reduce reliance on foreign nations.
And we're increasing our investment in artificial intelligence by 800%.
I mean, shouldn't you feel a little, like, insulted by that?
I mean, just in terms of intelligence, I mean, a generational down payment on our future.
Also, meanwhile, the U.S. national debt is approximately $38.96 trillion dollars.
Additionally, the Pentagon's $1.5 trillion budget proposal represents,
a 42% increase from what the U.S. currently spends on the military. That figure does not include
the cost of Trump's war in Iran, which is expected to cost billions and up to $1 trillion by some
estimates. So basically that means that the Pentagon is asking for $1.5 trillion, and then they're
going to be asking for even more money. A senior Pentagon official said the timing of the
appropriations process means a supplemental budget request will likely be needed to
to address near-term operational costs and replenishment needs arising from the conflict.
Well, I can't, you know, pay for it, which is with the $1.5 trillion, we're going to need a
little bit more money. Also, you can't have healthcare. And yeah, so I don't even want to know
how much it's costing, Pete, to make these videos. It seems like they're made by SNL, but far worse.
And yes, I did say videos, because apparently this is part of a series. So, you know, like and
subscribe, I guess. Now, stating in a previous one of these videos, more than
videos like these will be released over the next month to highlight how the trillion dollar
budget quote will make a generational investment in our arsenal of freedom. Also, I say this
every time, but when he wears that pocket square, that is a reference to a handkerchief,
and it does imply that he blows his nose on the American flag. I can't not say it anyway.
Basically, Jank, what do you think? This seems absolutely insane to me.
So I'll bring this up from time to time.
There's a good time to do it.
So when the Trump first one, I tweeted, hey guys, if you want to help with Doge, and remember
they were going to cut $2 trillion or something along those lines.
I was like, well, I could knock off 20% of it for you.
I could reduce $400 billion from the Pentagon, put me in, coach.
And Elon Musk and Donald Trump Jr. and others related to the administration, we're like,
Oh, we're going to cut.
We're going to cut the Pentagon.
We don't need you.
We're good.
We're good.
We're going to do it.
And although, to be fair, Elon said, any suggestions, okay, as if they were going to listen to that.
So I said, great, I gave suggestions, et cetera.
And then a lot of MAGA guys got independence got excited.
Oh, my God, we're going to cut the Pentagon.
We're going to doge is amazing.
It's going to save us so much money.
And then they're like, we're cutting off foreign aid.
If you're trying to help people not die from AIDS, you're not getting any money anymore.
Did you say all four and eight?
No, no, no, I was just kidding.
Of course not Israel.
We're cutting everyone but Israel, right?
Israel we're gonna actually give a lot more.
In fact, we're taking from the rest of the world and we're gonna give it to Israel.
But okay, Pentagon, we're cut, not cutting, well, it was around 850 billion when we came in.
Now we're gonna make it one and a half billion nearly doubling it.
Where the hell's the cut?
There's no cut, no.
And now, did I think they were actually gonna cut?
No, I want to know on the record, and here they are.
Not even the exact opposite of cutting.
And so things like, when he first said, you know what, half of this budget will go to, and
I'm like, here we go, Israel.
I was like, oh, they didn't say it, all right.
It's a secret that, but they're not sharing with this.
Golden Dome, 18 billion dollars.
The Golden Dome is approximately going to cost at least 1.2 trillion, according to estimates.
Trillions, 18 billion.
They're not going to build it for that.
At 18 billion, all you're gonna get is a robbery.
So that 18 billion will go to their friends and allies who'll steal it and won't build a goddamn thing.
You can't build Golden Dome over the size of a country like America, let alone for $18 billion.
But the cartoons are a nice touch.
So, because at the end of all of these wars that this one and a half trillion is going to pay for,
the last thing we'll hear is bea, bea, be it.
That's all, folks.
Okay, Elliot, you've been awesome.
We appreciate your brother, we're out of time.
Thank you, brother.
And I almost said thank you, bruh.
Thanks, dude.
All right, dude.
Guys, we're not done yet.
I got an amazing interview coming up for you guys in the revolution.
It's a Jewish American guy who had enough of Israel's crap.
So I think you're gonna enjoy that.
Let me see if I can squeeze in an enraging story as well.
We'll be right back.
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