The Young Turks - Russian To Judgment - February 5, 2026

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Has just been, you know, not good. I'm so upset. Oh my God. Well, hello. I'm Jake Hugar, Anna Kasparian, with you guys.

So lots of amazing stories today. So number one, we have non-epsy related stories. We've got a pole on ice. I mean, we have to firepoint. It's a great way of framing it. We do have some non-Ebstein stories for you, as much as it pains us to say that. No, no. The other stories are also super important.

How's Trump's polling on ice? That's important because it affects whether he's gonna continue going down this road or turn around. And there's some super interesting numbers in there. Also, we've got Donald Trump trying to nationalize elections. How are Republicans reacting to that? That's also very interesting. And a lot more on the domestic front.

But when it comes to Epstein Materials, you have come to the right place. Because unlike establishing media, we're not going to cover up reality and the news for you guys and pretend that things are completely different than what they are. And we're not just going to give you your opinion, but we will also provide our perspective. We're going to give you the actual news, the things that are actually in the files. And to me, I state all that in the beginning, because it's startling to me that we have to clarify that and that we're among the very, very, very few shows in all of media that's actually doing that. And like at this late date, as far as I know, and as far as anybody online knows,

no establishment media network has covered Epstein's connections to Israel yet. No, they're not going to. They're owned by Zionists, and Zionists want to bury that. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to know that a serial pedophile was being utilized. by the government of Israel for their own dirty deeds. And to me, one of the most important things it is, you know how they say about the cover-ups worse than the actual crime? In this case, the actual crime is really bad, right?

But look at the cover-up because so it's one thing when another government tries to affect us. It's a different thing though when our own government officials cover up those crimes. So those are the first thing. folks I'm most angry about. We'll get to all the details though so you see for yourself. But now the new thing and hence the prelude here and we're about to show it to you, but is I guess I was still a little naive about the media because I did not expect them to put up a total wall here and just go, nope, we're gonna ignore the enormous elephant in the room. And it really it's mask off, it tells you exactly who they are, and I won't make that much

mistake again. Okay, so look, I hate beating around the Bush. My level of patience at this point with pretty much anything is negative. It's not even zero, it's negative. Jeffrey Epstein worked for Israel. There is a mountain of proof, but everyone wants to lie about it. And I want to tell you how. Let's watch. The connections he helped make with, you know, with Aihubarak and very security companies. I mean, all of these and all the different countries that he apparently had sway and inside information into. I'm like, wow, it's incredible how much power this unelected pedophile had in the world.

Well, that unelected pedophile with all his power working on behalf of intelligence, that's how we had that power to begin with. Now the real question is, when we say Epstein worked for intelligence, what are we referring to? Specifically, Israel and the CIA. Same, same, by the way. Same, same. Now, you wouldn't know that if you simply consumed U.S. corporate media because they are going out of their way to bury that, avoid reporting on it, and in fact, divert your attention to something entirely different.

Before we get to that, Jake, your two cents. Yeah, I think the way that they are pretending that it was Russia instead of Israel, as we're about to show you, it really reveals their hand. Because we're going to show you how it's clearly not Russia. They have access to the same material. So any outlet, any media outlet saying it's Russia is not just getting the story a little wrong or it could be Russia and Israel. No, they're purposely putting Russia out there to mislead you so you. don't realize it's Israel because the evidence is overwhelming. So let's get to it. So despite all that evidence that Jank is alluding to, some of which we've shown you on this program, which links Epstein specifically to Israel, well, you still have many of the usual suspects

trying to lead you in the wrong direction. And what do I mean by usual suspects? Well, remember, CBS news is now headed by Barry Weiss, an unapologetic and fanatical Zionist. And here's what they're pushing. Poland says it's looking into possible connections between convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and Russian intelligence services. The announcement came after the U.S. Justice Department last week released millions more files related to the federal investigation into Epstein. Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said to Tuesday, quote, more and more leads more and more information and more commentary in the global press all relate to the suspicion that this unprecedented pedophilia scandal was co-organized by Russian intelligence

services. That's amazing. That's incredible news. I would like to see those files because I can't find them. Now, there are files that discuss Russia, but specifically emails that Epstein is sending in regard to connecting Ehud Barak to some of the contacts he might have in Russia, specifically so Ahud Barak can attend some sort of, it's known as the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. Epstein had a relationship with the head of the forum, a guy by the name of Sergei Beliakoff, and he helped Barack, meaning Ehud Barak, secure private meetings with senior figures in the Russian government. Now, did he do that? at the behest of Russia or did he do that at the behest of Ahud Barack, the former Prime Minister

of Israel? You're gonna tell me that Epstein was a spy for Russia? That's amazing. Now, there's other examples I wanna give you. Here's another one, sadly from LBC, which some of their programming I really like, but this post is total crap. Former MI6 spy I insist, Jeffrey Epstein was recruited by Russian organized criminals and likely had Compromot on Trump. Yeah, that's hilarious. Yeah. Okay, so I have more, I have evidence to the contrary, but, Cenk, I want you to jump in first. Yeah, so in the emails, you see Epstein doing several things with Putin, and that's why Putin has mentioned a lot in the emails. So that's the thing that Israel first is hanging their hat on. Well, he said Putin a lot, he said Russia a lot.

Yeah, but what did he say? So in some cases, he is successful in setting up meetings with the Russians. So Ahud Barak, the former prime minister of Israel, asked for meeting with Putin, and he, and it appears that Efsin delivers on that meeting. So that shows you, oh my God, EFSI is one of the most powerful people on earth to be able to set that up. But in other instances, he is repeatedly trying to get a meeting with Putin on his own and can't.

But wait, if you're working for Russian intelligence, and you see him, okay, here, Anna, give you the exact. I want to give you the exact details here. So these are in my notes because I wanted to be specific. So throughout 2015, and you find this in the correspondences in Epstein's emails. Throughout 2015, Epstein continued his attempts to arrange a meeting with Vladimir Putin to discuss economic matters, emailing the former Norwegian prime minister in July of 2015, stating, I still would like to meet Putin and talk economy.

I would really appreciate your assistance. So as late as 2015, Homeboy can't get in touch with Putin. He's never met with Putin, he can't get in touch with Putin, and he's unable to reach him in any way. So explain to me how the leader of Russia has no relationship whatsoever with Jeffrey Epstein, who's allegedly a spy for Russia. Hold on, one more important thing, Anna. Who did he ask to set up that meeting? The Norwegian prime minister. So why, if you're working for the Russians, why would you have to go to the Norwegian

Prime Minister to try to get a meeting with the Russians? Weird. So like all the reporters at Free Press, CBS, New York Post, etc. Have seen that and they still wrote it as if he works for the Russians. That's a purposeful lie. There's more. These interactions with the Norwegian Prime Minister, these interactions occurred during a time when Epstein was actively trying to boost his standing in Russia and leverage

connections to friends in the FSB. Yeah, okay, so he's trying to leverage it, but he can't get there. Okay, now, guys, at the same time, we're gonna get to all the things that connect him to Israel in a second. But every time there's a story that might implicate Israel, we see in our news outlets- Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia is always the scapegoat. Now here's another thing that those non-reporters don't tell you is that Russia and Israel are opposed to one another.

Do they sometimes make deals behind the seas? Yes, by the way, that happens all the time. Our press never reports on it. Israel make deals with Turkey from time to time and nobody is ever the wiser, right? And then it'll leak, et cetera, and we'll bring it to you guys, right? But overall, Russia was backing Iran and Bashar al-Assad in Syria. And Israel hated that. In fact, one of the reasons why we're so knee deep in Ukraine is because Israel loves

that we are weakening Russia with that war, because it helped them get distracted. And it allowed Israel and Turkey to bomb Bashar alasad and get them out of Syria. So they can take some land. So they can take some. So Russia is the idea that like that Russia and Israel are the same or oh my God, and I've now seen this absurdity where some are putting out the propaganda that, Oh no, Israel is just a colony of Russia. Russia is actually in charge.

That's not remotely true. No, they're totally opposed on that. So it's, and then finally the comical part, New York Post, at the end of their Compromont article, ironic, this propaganda article about, oh, I think it's the Russians, right? And New York Post is Murdoch owned 100% of the tank for Israel throughout the last 30 years. We've shown you hundreds of examples, right? So at the end, they go, Robert Maxwell is another connection. And I'm like, oh, they mentioned Galane Maxwell's dad, who was a legendary Israeli spy. Maybe they're going to actually throw something true in there.

They say, who was, of course, a spy for the KGB? Okay, come on. Yeah, okay, so let's go to actual journalists for a minute, okay? The real journalists. Because it's funny, back in October of last year, drop site news while they were reporting on the leaked Epstein emails, had reported about what you just mentioned in regard to what Israel was trying to get Russia to do in Syria. So the piece, if you want to read it for yourselves, and they don't put their content behind a paywall, although if you could afford it, please support the work they do because they're amazing.

But the piece if you want to read it for yourself is titled Jeffrey Epstein and the Mossad, how the sex trafficker helped Israel build a back channel to Russia amidst Syrian civil war. Hijacked emails show how Jeffrey Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister Ahud Barak tried to engineer a Russian-led solution to remove Bashar al-Assad. That's what Israel wanted. They wanted him to be removed. We're not friends with Russia, we don't get along with Russia, but how can we convince Putin to work with us, okay?

So two quick things about that. Notice it's not Epstein trying to get the Russians to work on behalf of the Russians to to get Israel to do something. He's working on behalf of the Israelis. He's on behalf of the Israelis to get the Russians to do something. And the second point is he can't. In that case, it does not work. So it's obvious that he's working for the Israel.

It's not even close and this is one of many evidence. Go ahead. So I'm gonna give you the relevant excerpts from this piece where they say that the trove of emails exchanged at the height of the Syrian Civil War between 2013 and 2016 reveal Epstein's successful efforts to secure a private meeting between Barack and Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss a Russian brokered end to the conflict, including winning Russian support for negotiated removal of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Together, Barack and Epstein sought to pressure the Obama administration to either intervene

directly in the Syrian war or make concessions to the Kremlin in exchange for Assad's graceful exit. So basically what they were doing is they were reaching out to Putin. And in order to get Putin to do what they want with C- The big game's almost here. And there's no better way to cash in during America's biggest sporting event than Price Pigs, where it always feels good to be right. And since the big game is right around the corner,

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on Russia after the Crimea invasion. Like, they're working out various deals, like various ways to convince Putin to play ball and help them in ousting Bashar al-Assad. But you want to know something? It didn't work, it didn't work. So let me give you more. So despite securing a sit-down, it didn't work. And then they didn't succeed in convincing Russia to support Assad's ouster.

But their negotiations set the stage for U.S. Russia cooperation on disarmament of Russia's chemical weapons arsenal. Serious chemical weapons arsenal a few months later. Now look, does it sound like he's working for Russia? No, he's trying to convince the Russians because he clearly 100% does not work for Russia. Instead, every deal he makes, including this one, is on behalf of who? Israel. Exactly.

media says I can't see it. After their failed attempt to remove Assad, Ehud Barak and Jeffrey Epstein sought to leverage the Russian channel again in 2015 as Barack pushed for U.S. strikes on Iran and rejected Obama's nuclear deal framework. Did that work? Did that work? Did Russia go after Iran after that? No, they didn't. So obviously it doesn't work for Russia. And by the way, notice in this email and many other emails, Epstein is constantly trying to pressure the American government to bomb Syria, to bomb Iran on behalf of who? Nigeria, Russia, Kazakhstan? No, every single time, Israel. Exactly. Now, when it comes to Russia, you can't find a clear link to Epstein working for Russia, operating a blackmail operation on behalf of Russia. However,

you do see Jeffrey Epstein working real hard on behalf of another country. And of course, Of course, that's Israel. So look, everyone's focusing on what just got released by the DOJ in terms of the Epstein files. And you should be reading those. And we gave you numerous examples that show Epstein was doing work for Israel. But even before that guys, as you know, if you watch this show regularly, Dropside News had already done extensive reporting on all the various deals that Jeffrey Epstein had made on behalf of the Israeli.

So I'll give you a few examples. This is another headline from DropSight News. Leadership would like your help. Indian billionaire tapped Jeffrey Epstein before Modi's visits to US and Israel. New Department of Justice documents reveal Epstein's direct role in fostering ties between India, Indian, Israeli, and US elites. Here's another one. Praise Allah, there are still people like you. This is something that we actually did a story on.

Jeffrey Epstein nurtured Israel Emirates ties before Abraham, So we talked about that at length on this program. Here's another one. Ask Jeffrey. Epstein ran Wexner, meaning less Wexner's pro-Israel philanthropy machine emails reveal. The Wexner Foundation has long claimed Epstein did not make decisions regarding the use of foundation's funds. New emails show that is flagrantly false. And in these pieces, you get a sense of just how hard Epstein was working on behalf of Israel.

So to say that Epstein was running a blackmail operation on behalf of Russia is absolutely insane. And it's not insane, actually. It is intentionally done to mislead the public and divert their attention away from the very clear relationship Epstein had with the Israelis. Yes, so we're going to get to more evidence of his connections with Israelis in a second. But let's pause here for this. So EPSC has connections to India, UAE, Russia, Mongolia, and many other countries. In every single instance, he sets up a connection to help which country? Every single time, Israel.

Now, if you say that you missed that, you read all of the emails, and every time EPSC is trying to help Israel, and you see him trying to get meetings with the Russians, but he can, trying to get the Russians to do something, but he can. And so he obviously clearly does not work for the Russians. And you write a story about how he works for the Russians. You didn't just accidentally get it wrong. You're trying to mislead your viewers, your readers, etc. To lie to the public.

To lie to the public. So now for the public, there's a bunch of media outlets that did stories about how he works for the Russians. If you see that, understand that that outlet is totally compromised by Israel. And you should never trust the word they print because it's Israeli propaganda. propaganda. But all the other outlets that haven't talked about the Russians, they also, none of them, zero, have talked about his overwhelming hundreds of ties to Israel. And that is enormously strange. And look, this is not some kooky conspiracy theory. I mean, this used to be considered a conspiracy theory, not anymore. And now it's proven. A very good indication

that people know what's really going on, it's unclear if they're going to do anything about it, is how some Republican lawmakers are talking about this issue. So I bring you Josh Hawley, Senator. A drop site we reported that an Israeli spy named Yoni Koren stayed at his New York City apartment for weeks on end, several periods of weeks on end. Tucker Carlson discussed it on his podcast the other day and wanna know if you have any thoughts on that because it's all in the documents between it would be. It wouldn't surprise you.

No, I mean, this is why I think it's so important to get these files out and have to help transparency is because his network was vast. So there you have a senator, a Republican senator, Josh Hawley asked about, you know, Jeffrey Epstein's ties to Israeli intelligence. And you can also count on Congressman Thomas Massey to just say it like it is, especially when it comes to this issue. Let's watch. Do you believe Netanyahu's involvement with Trump is influencing the decision of the

Epstein file release? I think Israel is influencing the Epstein file release because, Because Israeli intelligence and our own CIA was wrapped up with Epstein. And so it would be embarrassing to our own intelligence agencies as well as Israel's intelligence agencies for all that to come out. And do you think he was a Mossad agent? I mean, what's it? Let's talk about agent.

I think he helped Mossad. He sure did. Jank, back to you. Yeah, so in the past, literally no one would have admitted that. Which by the way again, stunning, don't tell me that Israel doesn't control our government when it is unprecedented that when you could find two people in Congress who criticize Israel in this way. And it's considered like remarkable, right?

Why? Why couldn't you criticize many of your allies, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Canada? We don't seem shy in criticizing any of those. But when it comes to Israel, it was like, no, no, okay, wait, all right, but you're revealing your hand. You have the worst poker face in the world. So Massey, a guy of enormous courage, the Rokana Tom Massey team got these files released and they should build statues of them, okay?

One Republican, one Democrat. We found one in each party that's honest. Holly is thinking of running for president. That's why he's like, he's got that smirk like, we all know it, but we can't say it. Well, then you're not fit to be president. No, no, no, no, but you know what, since I'm gonna run for president, and I know now, the jury's in, if you try to run for president, these days actually, especially on the right wing side, and you're like, rah, rah, Israel like Ted Cruz is, you got no chance.

So that memo just got sent to Holly. That's why Holly's like, yeah, probably it's Israel. Wait, hold on. Why do you say especially on the Republican side? I think we're seeing the same type of energy on the left right now where people are like, I'm not going to vote for a candidate who supports Israel. Well, look, we're running Operation Consequences.com, where I say if you're a Democrat, or a Republican make a pledge in your primary so you don't have to vote for the other side

to vote out anyone who gets money from the Israeli lobby or gives money to Israel. So I hope that both sides do it significantly. In my experience, like if you asked me that question a year ago, I would have said, oh, the left is much more likely to rebel against Israeli cabinet against someone who's blindly supporting Israel within our primaries, right? Now though, I think the right is more pissed, to be honest. And there's still a contingent on the left. I love you guys, but that are still like the Hillary Clinton dead-enders who are like, no,

we just get Cory Booker. Oh my God. And like, yeah, he's totally 100% for Israel, but it's okay, he's so nice. You see what I'm saying? Like a Cory Booker might have a shot on the Democratic side, but a Ted Cruz has no chance on the Republicans. I'm a one issue voter at this point, and we're at war. So I want to be very clear, if you watch the show and you think you've got to vote for the

the Democrat no matter what, Democrat supports Israel, they are my enemy. I do see them that way. Yeah, I mean, because they're saying, I'm not going to represent you. Yeah, exactly. Like they're just declaring it, I'm gonna represent another country. That person is gonna steal my taxes and hand it over to a genocidal regime. And by the way, the person who does that will also steal your taxes and hand them over to big pharma.

Yeah, because he's a thief and he's corrupt and which describes about at least 95% of the Democrats in Congress. Last two things, guys, dropside news also showed that Epstein tried to acquire cyber weapons for Israel. Yep. There's still a question as to who he was working for? How could you see that and say, nope, I don't see, I won't even report that there are any connections to Israel.

That's when you, when these news organizations are making that active decision, they're basically planting a flag and saying don't trust us, we work for Israel, and we will hide the truth from you. And the last people that are hiding the truth, the people you should be angry as that is our own government. For decades they knew this stuff. We're just learning it now. But Obama knew it, Biden knew it, Bush knew it, Trump knew it, and all of them were like, oh yeah, we're all, Epstein. By the way, Epstein was in the middle of Iran-Contra. We knew he was arranging the Israeli end of Iran-Contra. In the freaking 80s, man. In the 80s. Come on. So both parties have known forever.

that we're selling out to the Israelis and our government works for Israel and the most powerful people on earth are all, not all the powerful people, but in this context, the people working with Epstein, we're all trying to help Israel. And our own government, Democrats and Republicans said, yeah, let's betray the American people. By the way, they also knew all that time that they were raping those girls. Yeah. And they're like, no, go ahead, we're going to side with the predators who are against America. and we're going to side against young American girls and the American people.

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out. It doesn't matter what country they sold us out to. Yeah. And that is that they sold us out. You should be furious with them and never vote for a Republican or a Democrat who raises their hand and says, I'm gonna keep selling you out. And if Israel gives me money, I'm gonna take as much of your money as I can and hand it over to them, let alone the wars we're gonna start for them. That's right. Unacceptable, Operation Consequences.com. Well, the unfortunate Pito Kabal continues when we come back from the break. They knew and they let it happen. Go to our members at t.yot.com. Funkin for fun said,

Jenk, I'm closer to your age and I'm too, I too am more surprised when the right agrees with me than when the left does. It's an amazing thing these days. And guys, don't mean get me wrong. The left is generally terrific on this issue, the voters, right? 92% of the voters say Israel went too far in Gaza and they're totally against it. In a poll that was done like four or five months ago already 65% of Democratic voters said we should cut all funding to Israel. So Democratic voters are great, right? Unfortunately our politicians are sick, disgusting, corrupt people who work for Israel and big pharma.

They've sold you out in a thousand ways. If we can get our fellow Democratic voters to realize that, that Hillary Clinton is not their friend, Chuck Schumer and Akeem Jeffries is not their friend. is not their friend. They're the people who betrayed them the most, just like Trump has betrayed MAGA the most. So, and I talked to a Democratic donor the other day, and look, the good news is among the good guy donors, the ones who are trying to do,

desperately trying to hold a tsunami of other corporate cashback, et cetera, they're super mad at Biden. They're beginning to realize, I mean, it's hilarious and it's super late, but they're beginning to realize that he was just as big a narcissist as Trump. And if I can get all the Democratic voters to realize that, then we could pick the right Democrat, the right person on the left, instead of the constantly the wrong one that betrays us. Bummer's driving, it seems to me that Epstein was more likely taken out by intelligence agency than a direct Trump hit. Oh, for sure. No, there's no one powerful enough, including Trump or Biden or any one politician or a set of politicians to kill someone inside an American prison and get away with it.

That's an intelligence agency, guarantee. Look, true, true, but don't sleep on financiers. They own and run everything. And there are a lot of financiers tied up in these Epstein scandals. I know, but what difference does it make? The guys you're referring to are 100% in the pocket of Israel. Yeah, that's true. So it's either Israel or, by the way, it's never or.

The CIA knows all of this, and they helped Israel cover it up. The CIA is a disgusting organization that has done now, nothing but hurt America since the day that it was founded, okay? I don't think there's any daylight between the CIA and Mossad. Yeah, I think the CIA is Mossad. I think they are the deep state. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So like, you need candidates who openly say and actually mean that they're gonna dismantle that. Yeah, that needs to be dismantled.

Otherwise nothing changes, guys. The reason why there's continuity from one administration to another is because of the deep state. Yeah. It's not fake, it's real and it must be dismantled. Yeah, and this, look, the CIA can prove me wrong. They could actually do intelligence that shows what Israel's actually done. They've never done it in their entire existence. All they've ever done is work for rich and powerful people in the beginning.

It was was was was Israel. Miazer's clause established, a hilarious name says, EFSI was connected to a number of countries intelligence, but only one country was drawn on his dry race board and had their prime minister crash with him. And also spies and a giant map of Israel in his house too. Right back on T.R.D. Jank, Anna, and all these wonderful new people who just joined by hitting the join button. Join them. Makes us stronger. It allows us to do this independent and honest reporting that you're getting on only a tiny amount of places in the whole country.

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You guys are amazing and we love you. Anna. All right, one more Epstein story for the day and then we'll move on to other things. But I thought this was important to share with you all because it turns out that some of the individuals wrapped up in this whole board of of peace thing. Yeah, you know where I'm going with it. So it turns out that Donald Trump has appointed the guy that you see right next to me to serve on the so called Board of Peace to rebuild Gaza.

Now it doesn't help that this guy has close ties to Leon Black, one of the financiers accused of rape by one of Epstein's 16 year old survivors. We read her diary entry. about Leon Black earlier this week. But before we get to the person in question here, Jank your two cents. Yeah, I think that it's not just about this guy, guys. It shows you how this game is played.

Because there's a couple of details in this story that you really need to know to understand the whole picture. So Anna, give him the facts. So the man in question is named Mark Rowan. Now who's Mark Rowan? Well, if you are in the Ivy League system in any way, shape, or form, you might have heard of him. He graduated from Penn and in recent years has spent quite a bit of time trying to go after

anti-Semitism on college campuses. But nonetheless, he actually ended up maintaining some close connections with Jeffrey Epstein. Long after Epstein pleaded guilty to child prostitution in 2008, Rowan also co-founded the private equity firm Apollo Global Management. Sound familiar? Yeah, that's the hedge fund that. that Leon Black was also part of. He was a major investor there. Now Rowan was or has been Apollo CEO since 2021, succeeding Black, who was forced to step

down in 2021 after revelations that he paid Epstein more than $150 million, allegedly for personal financial advice, which literally no one believes. Black was also accused of raping a 16 year old girl with Down syndrome and autism. allegations he denied, but they aren't allegations that were detailed in her diary as it was all happening in real time. So according to the Financial Times, Rowan and Epstein discussed tax-related matters over many years. Epstein requested and received internal Apollo financial documents and emails, emailed, met, and called some of the firm's most senior decision-makers on sensitive matters. Which is weird considering the fact that the firm put out a statement back in 2020 after Epstein died in prison, claiming that they never did any business with Jeffrey Epstein at any point in time.

In 2021, Apollo published the findings of a review from law firm Decker that confirmed the statement was accurate. Decker, I guess, can't be trusted. Rowan and Epstein emailed about a wide range of things, not just tax-related matters. In one email, Epstein describes a meeting that appears to have been with Apollo chief, Mark, he misspelled Mark's name. He says, Mark was here this morning. We talked Athene, Montauk, Rothschild, planes, boats, etc. Oh, you've never done any business with Epstein, that's weird.

seems like you had a little visit with Epstein. Fascinating. The documents show that Rowan had multiple phone conversations and email exchanges with Epstein. These included discussions in which Epstein considered purchasing Rowan's private jet and plans for the two to meet at Epstein's home. Now despite all of this evidence, a spokesperson has denied these claims, okay? The spokesperson says that Rowan denies that Apollo had any business with Epstein whatsoever. While Mr. Epstein sought to do work with the Apollo co-founders, other than Mr. Black, Mr. Rowan had never had neither a business nor any other relationship with Mr. Epstein,

as previously stated Apollo never did any business with Mr. Epstein. Okay, but what about the email that Epstein wrote indicating that Mark paid a little visit? They denied that too. Mr. Rowan met with the CEO of Edmund de Rothschild Bank at a meeting in 2016 arranged by Mr. Epstein that Mr. Epstein did not attend. Oh, is that supposed to be better? So in other words, you guys were in touch and doing work and consulting with Epstein. Why are you insulting our intelligence here?

And by the way, the biggest issue here is that this scumbag has been chosen. and appointed by Donald Trump to serve on this like ridiculous, fraudulent Gaza Peace Board. Okay, it's just, and then you look at this guy's background on how he's been going after universities. I mean, he has been urging his other wealthy friends to stop giving money to Penn. Specific. Welcome aboard via rail. Please sit and enjoy. Please sit and stretch. Steep. Flip or that and enjoy via rail love the way. Typically because he doesn't think they've gone far enough in fighting anti-Semitism.

So I've got more details on that and I would come back to the Rothschild's kind of an interesting side note in a second. But first to Anna's point, look, they're not picking Mark Rowan because out of boy, way to work with Epstein and get all these meetings set up and be Leon Black's partner. They're working with Mark Rowan in the board of peace because he is reliably 100% in favor of Israel. And the whole point of the border peace is to cheat and let Israel take as much land as they can and kill as many Palestinians as they can and pretend that it's peace. So everyone on there, Marco Rubio, Whitkoff, Tony Blair, Mark Rowan, Trump are all 100% pro-Israel.

And they go, well, we have a neutral board. That's not at all. New Jersey, there is a 1% divergence from Israel's opinion. He said, wait a minute, Tony Blair though, he was a former UK Prime Minister, Why. Do you know that his charity was set up by Larry Ellison and given $50 million? So Larry Ellison, of course, the number one donor of charity to the IDF. So Ellison is, Blair is Ellison's guy. Why was Jeffrey Epstein, by the way, wiring so much money to David Ellison, who's now the head of CBS?

Yes. Interesting. You guys like knowing that? You like knowing that the guy who owns CBS was being wired money from a pedophile, disgusting pig like Epstein? Okay, so CBS is done anyway. I mean, you'd be really, you know nothing if you trust CBS as a news outlet. Okay, but let's get back to both Epstein and Israel.

Now the other guy who ran Apollo, there's actually a third guy, Josh Harris, as far as we We know he's clean, he's not been implicated in any of this, and actually generally seems like a good guy from one of the other things that I've heard. But Leon Black was the third guy. Leon Black is the worst of the worst. He's the one that gave Epstein $158 million because of it as to Epstein. And we don't know why, he says, oh, for financial advice. No, Leon Black was a financial, one of the top financial experts in the world.

He didn't need anybody's advice. No, that's obviously some sort of blackmail payoff, my guess, let's put it that. way, okay, but that's literally everyone's gas. So why did Leon Black have pay so much more than anyone else? Because now as the emails and all the documents show, he had by far the most vicious rape of all of them. The 16 year old girl, he slammed onto the table, he bitter genitalia. I mean, the guy's an absolute monster.

Absolutely monster. Based on those records. Still walking free, by the way. No charges, no arrest, no investigation. Now could there be no investigation of that guy? The 16 year old girl has autism and Down syndrome. And that's why they picked her because she would be easier to- To rape.

I mean, these are the people we're talking about. So now Mark Rowan, back to him, so he's partners with Leon Black, but so is Josh Harrison. As far as we know, Josh is totally clean, right? I haven't seen anything about him at all. So I want to be clear, yeah. But people say he's a good guy, whatever, right? So now, so back to Rowan, Rowan at Penn demanded that everyone that went to Penn stopped giving, not another dollar, he said to Penn.

Why? Because somebody on Penn's campus was handing out Palestinian literature. This was pre-October 7th, having nothing to do with October 7th. So they want 100% control on college campuses. let the kids learn reality. If they learn real history, they'll never be on Israel's side. That is why you have to shut up all the professors. That was Barry Weiss's job. That's how she got famous by trying to cancel all the professors who were teaching real history about what happened to the Palestinians in 1948. So now even Palestinian literature, how could that possibly be offensive?

That means you're an anti-Semite if you allow the Palestinians to display their poems, right? No, no, No, no, that is 100% control. And guess what Roan is in charge of? The compact that Trump is sending out the universities saying this is the speech that is no longer allowed on campus. And of course, number one on that list is no criticism of Israel. So these are the people who actually run our government, who actually run our media, and who run our college campuses, and now are gonna run the board of peace. Yep, all right, we gotta take a break.

I'm gonna control myself. When we come back, we'll talk about the border patrol and ice related revisionism that President Trump is currently trying to engage in. We'll be right back. So look, we're gonna do the Rothstraff story another time, but I'm just gonna give you this one quote, Graphic 17 from the first story. I don't know if you can pull it up, but it's a little bit more complicated. So just two quick points and then we'll let it go for now.

They say, Epstein says to Peter Thiel in one of the emails, quote, as you probably know, I represent the Rothschilds. Okay, like if all of the other conspiracy theories weren't bad enough, you have to Rothschild's on, dude, but, but, but he joined them, he started working for them in 2013, so they were, if they were involved in the whole plot with the pedophilia, et cetera, and they were organizing everything, it would have been from the very beginning, not at 2013, right? But it's just like a little extra icing on the cake. All right, now let's go to some of your comments.

So Amber Shropner, thank you so much for the contribution on Super Chat. Really appreciate you. Constantine Kavira says, happy Friday? What? It's Thursday? Well, almost there. Constantine, we appreciate you, brother. All right, let's go to YouTube members.

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Okay, so that's where we are. I mean, if that's the only anti-Zionist candidate, I mean, where's the question? A lot of people are talking about Massey Connor or Kana Massey. Before it was like ha ha, now it's starting to get a little real. So that's kind of interesting. I think a mixed ticket like that would be interesting. If they ran as independence. We need to unite the country, okay?

We need to get extremist thinking just out of the picture. And we do need to be America first. We do, we do, we need it. We desperately need it. I mean, if they ran as independence and it was Kana Massey, that's almost a no-brainer. But anyway, here we go. Jillian 7 says, Dr. Roel Ruiz is our representative and I saw he accepted A-PAC money. It hurts.

Gillian, you gotta understand something. No, almost all of your incumbents are corrupt. They might seem like nice people, maybe they do some constituent services, et cetera. No, they 94% of them take A-PAC money and they, honestly, like they laugh at us behind the scenes. Almost every politician I've ever met knows it's all about the money. Like when the cameras are off, all they talk about is money. So I give you examples that would shock you. Anyway, punk man says, hey, Jenkina, I just became a subscriber.

I'm a paleo conservative, but I believe in your anti-war rhetoric. America needs to mind its own business. Here, brother, and way to have an open mind too. Thank you for being here. Kathy Osborne says Russia had their own blackmail thing going. Kathy, that's of course true. I don't want people thinking Israel's the only one with nefarious plots. Of course, almost all those countries have nefarious plots.

What's different actually is, what's funny is that in American media, if you say Russia has a nefarious plot or United Arab Emirates does, they say, okay, yeah, yeah, of course. If you say Israel, they're still like anti-Semi, shut them up forever. Wait, that's weird. That's super weird. Why are we, that's the one country we're not allowed to talk about having nefarious plots when obviously they do, like the other countries do? No, our media is totally in the tank for Israel. It's a joke. All right, back on T. T.O.T. Jen and Anna with you guys. Also, I was going to read this

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No, I don't. It should have not happened. It was a very sad, to me, it was a very sad incident, two incidents. And you know, they mentioned the one now, they don't mention the other. Well, I think they were both sad. And, you know, who feels worse about it than anybody? The people of ICE. Good?

Good? Trump referred to Renee Good as a terrorist who tried to, not tried to, he literally said, who ran an ICE officer over. But now all of a sudden, he's saying that it is tragic. Now I wish I believed that he felt that way, but I don't, I think it's a load of crap, but Jenk, what are your two cents? So guys, this story is important for two reasons. One, you're gonna see the actual polling where you see where the American people are, not where

the left or the right thinks they are, but where they actually are, right? And number two is, look at how fake Donald Trump is. Because before, he's like, you're terrorists, they had it coming, the savages. And now he sees the polling and he's like, oh, I meant it was tragic what happened. Did you? Well, if you really think that, you would fire Stephen Miller, like yesterday. Or Christine Home or Vivino, all these kids. But the way that he switches his rhetoric, after they give him a talking point and tell him, hey, you're becoming unpopular. So why don't you switch what you're saying 100%. He does.

He's a total phony. So over the past few weeks, ICE has gotten a pretty bad rap for a pretty good reason. They have been brutalizing the community in Minneapolis. There were two immigration agent-related fatal shootings. Of course, Renee Good was the first one. The second was Alex Preddy. But according to President Trump, they're the, you know, the real victims here are the federal agents who carried out the shootings because they feel terrible.

I'm not kidding, he literally said that watch. After the shooting of Renee Good, you said ICE made some mistakes. What were the mistakes? Well, look, I'm not happy with the two incidents. It's not, you know, it's both of them. Not one or the other. He was not an angel. And she was not an angel.

You know, you look at some tapes from back, but still, I'm not happy with what happened there. Nobody could be happy, and ICE wasn't happy either. But I'm going to always be with our great people of law enforcement. ICE, police, we have to back them. If we don't back them, we don't have a country. Do you think any of that justified what happened to them, though? No, it should have not happened. It was a very sad, to me, it was a very sad incident, two incidents.

And you know, they mentioned the one now. They don't mention the other. Well, I think they were both said. And, you know, who feels worse better than anybody? The people of ICE, they're strong, tough people. And they have to be tough because we're dealing with hardened criminals. Right. Okay, let's actually talk about the reality of the reactions from these federal agents following the fatal shootings they had carried out. So according to Stella Carlson, one of the bystanders who was there and happened to capture the video of the fatal encounter between Alex Prattie and CBP agents, after the shooting, she said the agents initially scattered before returning to ostensibly try to render some sort of aid to Preti, and maneuvering his body around like a rag doll. Of claims made by another witness who said agents moved Preddy's body to count the bullet holes, Carlson said, quote, I watched that, and that is what I felt like they were doing. She expressed disgust at them appearing to treat him like he's a deer.

Here's another example of how these agents react after shooting people, including American citizens, of course. So for instance, in November, a story that I've brought up quite a bit on the show because of how egregious and unjust it is. Miramar Martinez is a US citizen from Chicago, okay? So she was shot five times after a border patrol officer's car collided with hers. Now, they had claimed that she rammed their vehicle, but surveillance footage proved otherwise that that didn't happen.

Okay, so the charges against her were dropped, but the reason why I'm bringing this up again is because of what we learned in regard to what the person who shot her, the federal agent who shot her, what he said after doing so. His name is Charles Exum. Here's how we felt after shooting this woman. These are images of texts sent by the agent who shot you. And they're actually disturbing to read, but I think it's important for the public to see this. The agent linked an article about your shooting and texted, read it, five shots, seven holes.

I fired five rounds and she had seven holes. Put that in your book, boys. Oh well, it is what it is. The B. This is someone that works for the United States government. I fired five rounds and she had seven holes. Now he was talking about you and it's our understanding that he was actually bragging about his aim, shooting an unarmed American citizen. Additionally, in a text to his brother about the shooting, Exum wrote the following, Sweet, my 15 minutes of fame, laughing my ass off.

adding in another text a day after the shooting, quote, cool, I'm for another round of F around and find out laughing my ass off. And then during a court hearing, he acknowledged the messages and actually defended them telling the court, I take pride in my shooting skills. Has he been fired? Like, what's, does Trump have anything to say about that guy? He shot an American citizen, And by the way, lied about what happened in the lead up to opening fire on this woman. Yeah. So I think the point of ICE is to create this kind of habit in chaos. And it was Trump trying authoritarianism and seeing how far he could go. Would the American people be okay?

Well, you say when he first started, he going after criminals are undocumented, no problem. He goes after mass deportations starting to be a problem. And American people are very uncomfortable with that, right? And now they're mass thugs shooting American citizens and then laughing about it afterwards. The American people are deeply uncomfortable with that. So thank you Americans for pushing back all of you, as you're gonna see in some of the polling we're gonna show you and say, no, this is not, this, we don't want this crap. This third world nonsense, we don't want it and we don't want you in our streets. So that's great. The idea that the ICE officers were like broken harder about it is ridiculous.

Come on. It's absolutely right. And by the way, let me just say one other thing. Look, there are people on the right who disagree with us when it comes to like mass deportations. You know, they want to be a lot more strict when it comes to deportations and all of that. We disagree with them and that's fine. And I say that's fine because I'm specifically referring to the people on the right who saw what happened in Minneapolis, who saw the shooting of Alex Prattie and recognized it as wrong, the wrong thing for Border Patrol to do. And realizing how dangerous it is to cheer on, you know, militarized federal agents roaming our communities like this, terrorizing American citizens, profiling people.

You know, there are two groups of people in this country, people that you can reason with and have like, legitimate good faith negotiations and discussions with. And then there are the extremists who for whatever reason love the idea of living in a society that isn't free, living in a society where state sanctioned violence against its own people should be allowed. And I just disagree with that entirely. Yeah, that's not America. The political spectrum has gotten so confusing because it bent in some good ways where the

right and left now agree, you know, release the obscene files, get Israel out of our government, etc. But that it's also bent in a weird bad way where the right wing, the extreme right wing that used to warn about the tyranny of government and the jackbooted thugs of the government are now coming all the way back around to. No, government is great. You want jackbooted thugs that are masked and unidentified all over the streets killing American citizens. What? What did that happen? Totally crazy. Right? Yeah. So look, we're gonna get more into the polling. But one thing you should know to Anna's point about the different sections of Republicans, Democrats, et cetera, is that about 25% in all the polls I've seen of Republicans that back Trump

go, add-a-boy, ice, shoot them harder, shoot them more, right? So you're not going to talk sense than that 25%, right? But now we're seeing another quarter, in fact, 27% in a poll you'll see later in the show, of Republicans going, no, ICE has gone too far. Republicans, too far, okay? We didn't ask for this, let alone 77% of independent. This is amazing. I was reading a piece in time just yesterday. And the percentage of Republicans who want to abolish ICE, believe it or not, those Republicans exist. It went from 10%, not too long ago to now 19%. 19% of Republican voters want to abolish ICE. Yeah. So guys, I just don't want people, like if you take that 19% and stay there the same as the guy is saying,

shoot them more? Obviously they're not. No, no, no, my point is that there are some folks out there on the left. They're all the same, they're all racist, they're all fascists. Don't, please don't. That 19% can vote in the right direction and are, they want to abolish ice. 19% of Republicans take the win for God's sake. Okay, so let me give you some other polling because I do think the polling is what motivated Trump to give the types of answers he did during that NBC interview.

So according to a new poll released, Just yesterday, a majority of voters think that the Trump administration is not giving an honest account of the Alex Preti shooting. More than a week after nurse Alex Prattie was shot and killed by federal agents in Minneapolis, 61% of Trump voters, I'm sorry, 61% of voters think the Trump administration has not given an honest account of the incident and 25% think the Trump administration has given an honest account of the incident with 14% not offering an opinion. So the majority of Americans do not think that Trump is telling the truth about what's going on.

Now, it is important to see that broken down by party, though. So for Democrats, 93% and Independence 65, I don't know, I don't know how to make sense of this. No, no, among Democrats, it's 93 to 2. Among independent 65 to 20, think the Trump administration has not given an honest account of the incident. So Democrats is not surprising, but having a full. 45 point lead among independence gives you a sense of where the country really is, right? Now they finish up, but while Republicans are at 60 to 19, thinking the Trump administration has given an honest account.

But again, there's that same 19% going of Republican voters, not even independent, but Republican voters for Trump say, no, I think the president's full of crap. And I don't believe them on ice, not just on EBCM but on ice. And collectively, according to the same poll, 80% agree that there should be an individual independent investigation into Alex Preti's fatal shooting. The majority also agreed that ICE reform is necessary, including 92% support for body cameras. That's beautiful. That is beautiful.

That is beautiful. Yeah. Come on, they come. Trump says no, they don't need badges. They could have mass. They don't have to identify themselves. 92% of Americans go, no, that's not the American way. In fact, I want body cameras on them.

Okay, hold on. Let's be specific though, 92% support the body cameras. 61% support a ban on the masks. See that, look, I'll take 61%, although that number should be way higher. And it makes no sense, like if you want body cameras, that's even more of a way of tracking them than the mask. So you should be more upset about the mask. Like what, like I have a body camera on a guy I don't know.

Law enforcement needs to identify itself, like they need to identify themselves. Yeah. Law enforcement is paid by us. They work for us, they need to identify themselves. And if someone is threatening them, if someone is doxing them, then they need to be dealt with, they should be prosecuted, okay? But the fact that all of us have to suffer with this weird secret police type situation, it's unacceptable, it's unacceptable.

I pay their salaries, they need to identify themselves. Yeah, and look, it's an indefensible position because otherwise then you should say, oh, our cops who actually busts some of the most dangerous gangs there are in the world, should also wear a mask and should take their badges off, et cetera. And we don't do that because that's not what America does. So it's just totally, but you know what? Even though I think that 61 should also be 92, it doesn't really matter because 61 is overwhelming, let alone the 92, let alone the Republicans, let alone the independents.

So guys, in terms of like, has ice gone too far, the jury's in. The American people think, yes, they don't believe them and they think they've gone too far, especially in these shootings. And that's a good solid win for American democracy and the system that we have. All right. When we come back, Joe Rogan weighs in on immigration. Trump weighs in on him weighing in on immigration. You don't want to miss it.

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Rogan's next. Let's get into it. Joe Rogan was one of your biggest endorsers in 2024. He said he understands the Trump's, the president's sort of plan to deport people here who are here illegally. But he also understands why critics compare ICE officers to the Gestapo asking people for their papers. What's your response to him? During an interview with NBC News, President Donald Trump was asked to respond to criticism that popular podcaster Joe Rogan has leveled against ICE and its belligerent conduct in Minnesota.

Now, did he lash out? Did he try to keep the peace? You never know with Trump, he's a bit of a wild card, but before we show you, Jank, your two cents. Yeah, Rogan's interesting because he said some things that were positive checking Trump on ice and then sometimes he gets back in line and that is surprising. So we'll give you the nuances, then we'll give you the polling and show you where the American people really are. And the polling tells the whole story, not just what you want to be true on the left or the

right. Now the NBC host that you heard from Tom Yamas is correct that Joe Rogan has on multiple occasions shared concerns about ice. For example, here was his response to the Renee Goodshut. After that woman was shot, I think unfortunately, well, everything is unfortunate about it, right? But one of the real problems is now ICE are villains. And now people are looking at them like murderous, military people that are on the streets of our city and they're masked up, which is also a problem, right? Because if you get arrested by a cop, you're allowed to ask the cop, what is your name and badge number?

And you could film that cop. If you get arrested by an ICE agent, you have no such right. They're wearing a mask. They don't have to tell you. That's a problem. That's a problem on our city streets, right? It's complicated, obviously. But it's also very ugly.

To watch someone shoot a U.S. citizen, especially a woman, in the face, it just looked horrific to me. She didn't seem mentally healthy, but does that mean she should be shot in the head? Is there no other way to handle this? So what was Trump's reaction to what we just heard Joe Rogan say following the Renee Good shooting? Let's watch. Look, first of all, he's a great guy. We had a tremendous success before the election. I think it was his biggest interview ever, and over 300 million people.

It was very good. She didn't want to do it, you know, she decided not to do it because she's not capable. But I spoke to him three days ago. We had a great conversation. And all I'm doing, I have to keep the country. Did he mention this to you? Did you guys talk about this? The ICE enforcement.

Just had a good conversation. I think he's a great guy. And I think he likes me too. And you know, liking me isn't important. What happens is that I think we do a phenomenal job, but I don't think we're good at public relations. For me, this story isn't about how Trump feels about Rogan's criticism. For me, this story is interesting because you had a conversation. on the phone with Rogan two days ago, that kind of explains a lot about Rogan's kind of muted

reaction to the Epstein files, for instance, muted reaction to Theo Vaughn raising serious concerns about Israel and its undue influence over the United States. You know, these are topics that Joe Rogan used to be a bit of a trailblazer on. And all of a sudden, very muted on these issues. And I just couldn't figure out why. But, you know, if you're taking calls from the president, that access and that relationship is gonna make you handle these stories a little differently, I think. Yeah, so I'm not reaching any conclusions. My jury is completely out. But it's weird, right? So I mean, you would think Rogan, Mr. Independent Podcaster would be all over the Epstein Files. Certainly his audience would want that. And so the fact that he's been so muted on it is a little

strange, just noteworthy. He had Mike Benz on, who's like, you know, one of Elon Musk's boys. And they talked about the Epstein Files, didn't talk about Israel at all. But, you know, that was interesting. Yeah, it's weird. He never mentions Israel. Maybe he just wants to stay out of it, like, look, it's nothing but trouble. He didn't before. He didn't before. Yeah, yeah, I'm not making excuses for him. We're telling you the things that I think he's doing wrong, right? Then you have Alex Jones who all of a sudden is against the theories that he like that he built his entire career off of and everyone thought he was crazy including me and it turns out some of those big conspiracy theories ended up being true. Okay. So we were talking about in the context of Noam Chomsky the other day, but there is such a thing as controlled opposition, right? And so I'm not saying that for Rogan, but Alex Jones is a fascinating case, right? I don't get it. Yeah. Yeah. And so you would think you would think you. He should be ascendant now. All the conspiracy theories were true or something.

And he's not. And so how do they get them to, if they get them to quiet down? How do they get them to quiet down? I don't know, maybe if the president calls you and says something or other or somebody else calls you. I mean, remember too, like Steve Bannon and all released to Epstein. It turns out Steve Bann is all over the Epstein file. All over the FD.

He's not to be trusted. Yeah, he was, he has hundreds of hours of tapes on Epstein, but won't release them, was trying to help massage his PR. Like what is going on here? So we did get some of the interview that Bannon did with Epstein as part of the, you know, recent release of Epstein files, which I thought was really interesting. But I mean, look, what's very clear to me from the latest tranche of Epstein files is that Bannon did have a close relationship with Epstein.

Oh, they conspired together all the time. Yeah. Now Bannon could make excuses about, hey, look, those are some of the things I wanted or whatever. Okay, all right. But you're all over the files, brother, and you're the one who was so cozy with him. He trusted Bannon so much, he let Bannon tape him for hundreds of hours. Yeah. That is, that's startling.

So just grain assault. But you know what? It's a good litmus test because now when you see Thero Von and Tim Dillon and Andrew Schultz, well, Schultz, I don't know how much he's talking about Israel, but Dylan, Vaughn and many others, and by the way, almost everyone on the left, all the hosts on the left, credit to all of them, right? because they passed the litmus test. Because if you're weirdly protecting Israel at this late date, it makes you go, hmm, boy, that's weird.

Now, in regard to polling, let's talk about a little bit, because new polling from NPR has found that 65% of Americans believe that ICE has gone too far. That's the graphic that you're looking at right here. It's NPR, PBS News, Merrist poll. And that's an 11 point increase from the summer. And it includes a whopping 77% of independence and 93% of Democrats. Still, only 27% of Republicans say ICE has gone too far with 28% saying they haven't gone far enough. But there's more.

A Quinnipiac poll did get similar results. They found that 63% of voters disapprove of the way ICE is enforcing immigration laws. And that's an increase of six percentage points since early January when 57. percent disapproved. Now let's take a look at the next graphic, actually this is the right one. So clearly there is genuine outrage in the country about how federal immigration agents are conducting their operations. And that's why we've seen massive protests break out not just in Minnesota, but in other major

metropolitan areas of this country as well, all over the country against ICE and the Trump administration's immigration crackdown. Now that may be part of why Trump also said during this interview that his administration needed a softer touch on immigration. But despite being willing to join in the criticism on ice, Joe Rogan is now also simultaneously claiming that the protests are not actually organic. Now he's argued multiple times that they're an effort to distract from something else, something much more important, I don't want to give it away, you should hear from the horses.

mouth. Watch. If it wasn't for that Nick Shirley kid in those videos, and apparently Nick Shirley had been informed by the the GOP there, that this was all going on. So this gets exposed, it gets into the public zeitgeist. It becomes a huge news story. It's not a coincidence that the riots break out in the exact same place where all this fraud is being exposed. Because ICE is everywhere. They're all over the place. But it's not. The most violent interactions are the interactions that are happening in the place where the most fraud has been publicly exposed. Yeah. It's all, this is all by design.

Why riots only in Minneapolis? And why riots in the place where there's an ungodly amount of fraud that has been discovered? Coincidentally, right around the same time. Exactly. Like, instantaneously afterwards, the narrative completely changes. Everybody forgets about the fraud. Now all anybody cares about is ICE and fascists and Nazis. Yeah.

Joe, I say this as someone who lives in the state that likely carries out the most fraud, okay, and that's the state of California. I'm sad to report that literally no one in any position of power cares about fraud. They don't, okay? The Trump administration used the excuse of fraud to target liberal cities and blue states, but have they actually done anything about fraud? Of course not, of course they haven't. I'll give you another example. You just had Dr. Oz visit Los Angeles, stand in front of an Armenian bakery business, and accuse the Armenian bakery business that's been operating in Van Nuys, California, as long as I can remember.

I'm familiar with the bakery, I literally go to the bakery, I'm familiar with it. He accused the bakery of carrying out Medicare fraud. Medicare fraud. Now, did he do that because he genuinely believes that the Armenian bakery carried out Medicare fraud or anything else? No. No. He didn't have any evidence. All he said was look at the Cyrillic writing. It is indicative of an Armenian Russian gang known to carry out Medicare fraud. Okay, it wasn't Cyrillic writing. It was Armenian writing and it said, Tam lavash, which means fresh lavash. It's a bread. Ah ha. So they're making bread over there,

Yeah, get me some of that Armenian bread. And I don't say that to deny that Medicare and Medi-Cal fraud happens in California. It does happen. But they don't care to actually investigate it and do something about it. They don't care. They're just weaponizing this as a way to retaliate against blue cities and blue states. And it makes me so angry. Yeah.

So look, guys, let's work backwards out from there. So first off, why is Dr. Oz doing that? Because he thinks that epicenter of Medicare fraud is that Armenian bakery? No, he seems to have picked it out of a hat, which like, to Anna's point, there are actually people who are doing Medicare fraud. In fact, there are Armenians who do Medicare fraud around here, but they didn't even bother investigating that. No, because they don't care.

Yeah, they don't care. He didn't bother investigating, hey, I wonder what that sign means, or is it really in that language? Like, he didn't do any of that. He's just like, Armenian bad, I am now totally. American inside the White House. By the way. So that's his own particular agenda apparently.

They're so stupid, Jake, they're so stupid. Armenians in LA, I'm not in this camp, but Armenians in LA overwhelmingly Trump stands. Trump stands. So you have a Trump administration official going to Armenian businesses, many of whom probably voted for Trump. And just, sorry, but a Turk smearing all these Armenians, not a good look, not a good look. Yeah, so look, the Turk Armenian thing is less important than getting the point across that they're doing it for whatever their own political purposes are. Exactly.

Right? So for Dr. Oz, it happens to be attacking Armenian bakeries. He's like, they don't even have any crude tea in here. Okay, so that's like a rando old school like beef from back in the day, apparently, I think. So on the other hand, in Minneapolis, two things can be true at the same time. Was there fraud? Yes, to Anna's point. You could find that kind of fraud in every state. And we're trying and trying to expose that in California and other places too.

And I love that. If you think it's only Somalis, oh, come on, guys, please do better. And notice how they always racialize it too. Yeah, right? Exactly. The Armenian community in L.A. Oh, the Somalis in Minnesota. Like.

Yeah, are there non-Armenians doing Medicare fraud in L.A.? Of course, of course. But they're trying to get you distracted. Look at the, hate the Somalis, hate the Armenians, et cetera. Don't look at fraud on an institutional level because fraud is everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, if you wanted to hate the biggest mountain of fraud in the government, it's not complicated. It's not in Minnesota or California.

It's at the Pentagon. They can't account for $400 to $500 billion a year, right? I found the fraud. It's not complicated. let alone a million other things, right? And one other thing I have to just debunk about what Rogan said there. I don't know why he thinks that there are only protests happening in like Minnesota or anywhere ICE is operating.

That's just not true, it's just not true. There have been more than 300 ice out protests held around the US. So no, the demonstrations aren't just happening in Minnesota as he's suggested. Yeah, but what I was gonna say, I know about that is, look, there's two theories, Joe's that Alex Preddy and Renee Good and everybody in Minnesota is part of the Somali plot, and they want to cover up the Somali fraud. Okay, I guess you could believe that, right? The other theory as to why ICE went more ballistic in Minneapolis is that since they were already targeting Minnesota,

by the way, who happens to have a governor who ran for vice president and would logically run the next time around, And to character assassinate him would be perfect. Yeah, are you saying it was politically motivated? So once you already have this, this target, you go, okay, surge ice into there, cause chaos, so we could blame Tim Walls and Fry and all the Democrats in Minnesota, and it's all their fault, and bringing even more people. But it backfired because they went too far. So, okay, so I think that's what's happening there.

And the last thing on the, on the Minnesota situation, Rogan mentioned riots. When did riots happen? Where? Where were the riots in Minnesota? Did anybody throw bricks through Starbucks windows? Was there a building set on fire? Did people go, I mean, there were no riots.

What are you talking about? There was two people who slightly objected to ice and got murdered. Right? And by the way, there are tons of protesters blowing whistles, protesting. Yeah, exactly. But not doing any rioting, not any assaults, not violence, not any law breaking, so don't tell me this is riots.

Look, there were riots in the summer of 2020 that the media overwhelmingly would not cover. I get that. That's not happening this time around. And when you smear these people who are demonstrating as rioters, that communicates to them. Look at that, even when we're doing that, you know, we're avoiding riots, there's no looting, we still get smeared as rioters anyway. Yeah. So now, last thing for me is,

Back to the polling, guys, I don't want you to just skip past that. And there was a word that was used in the article we used a second ago and I want to correct it. Okay, so first on independence, when you have lost 77% of independence, you're a goner. That's, so if you say, oh, you're biased, no, I said the same exact thing about Joe Biden. You lose over 70% of independence, you're done. Independence are larger than Republicans or Democrats. They're the largest political affiliation. in America by a lot these days.

You lost 77% of them. Nah, nah, nah. So it doesn't mean overall, but it does mean for ICE. That's why Donald Trump is in retreat, right? And that's why Donald Trump's numbers are now terrible. This same poll had him at 39%. He's in the 30s, just like Biden was. But 51% strongly against, which is a record number.

Because strongly against is usually a smaller number. number 51% disapproval overall is already a terrible number. Strongly opposes an awful number. Okay, now finally, we use the word only, and the article just kept saying it over and over again, that's probably how it snuck into our production document. But it's not only 27% of Republicans thinking that Trump went too far. Holy cow, 27% of Republican Trump voters, not just overall Trump voters, which says a lot of independents, they're already gone.

Of the Republican voters for Trump, 27% over a quarter are like, no, that's way too far, man. That's too far. I don't want it. So, guys, I tell you that because of two reasons. One, ice going too far, the jury's in. The American people overwhelmingly think they went too far. If you're in the camp of no, no, but everybody on X says, all my friends on X love it. Okay, sad day for you.

That's not what this is. And this, it's not like this is close polling in the swing states. It's gigantic and obvious, right? The second reason I mention it is, if you're on the left, guys, you see there's a quarter of Trump voters that want everything he wants and amplified, even more so, right? And now you see there's a quarter of Trump's Republican voters who are like, not just not just Israel, but ICE is a bridge too far and has gone too far. So if you take that 27% and you call them a racist, fascist, et cetera, like the guys on the other end of the spectrum,

then you're going to needlessly turn them off and they're going to want to retreat back to their original position. Instead, I think the right and smart thing to do is to say, thank you, brother, for noticing that ICE went too far and for helping to get Trump to come back from it so we don't have these thugs in our streets. way to join an alliance of real Americans who care about the Constitution and doing things right. Let's encourage them and let's welcome them. I don't think that's complicated politically and not just strategically, but morally, they're telling you they're on the right side. That's awesome.

That's good news. So separate out different kinds of Trump voters. All right. When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about the mass sell-off of Bitcoin. What's going on with crypto? Doesn't look good. Why? We'll tell you when we come back. All right, let's go to Super Chat. DJ Payne says,

where are the hardened criminals and sex abusers that ICE is arresting? Maybe they should start at the White House. Yeah, it's not funny. ICE is going to get to these foreigners who molest children. I think it's pretty clear now that our government is totally okay with the rape and molestation of children. Yeah, so let's, yeah. So to DJ Payne's point, can we skip that BS talking point? Yeah, I'm done with it.

I'm done pretending. Actually, I wasn't pretending before I had a little bit of faith in our system of government, but no more. So there's no new prosecutions. Todd Blanche, deputy attorney general made abundantly clear there will be no new investigations, no new prosecutions. They are totally okay with grooming and raping little girls. And they say, oh, ICE is going after foreigners.

It's possible that a foreign government organized the giant ring of pedophiles. in our government and our government protected it inside our country. Okay, so San Fran, and the guy who's protecting the most now is Trump. San Franatic says rough to realize Q&N might be more accurate reporting than all of mainstream media. Also shame to see what Hamas did to Russia on October 7th. Oh wait, referring to how Hamas attacked Israel, not Russia. That's what I've seen was upset about, not anything to do with Russia. And yeah, brother, I mean, Q&Non had pizza and apparently they

They did use pizzas. Pizas all over the Epstein files. And the babies, I don't know how reliable it is, but there's stuff about babies in there. And meanwhile, our mainstream media, to his point, says Israel didn't do anything. And if you even say things that are true, indisputably true, we'll try to make sure that you never work in media again. So who's more right? I mean, this is an insane, topsy-turvy world, right?

Rio Hand says, Jake, I know you've explained it before, but for Robert Maxwell, where should I go to read more? One of the reasons I want to say that is, guys, so Robert Maxwell was a big Israeli spy, stole our nuclear secrets, etc. But you couldn't, these days the searches are amazing. You just ask them a question, Gemini, chat, GPT, et cetera, and they give you a detailed answer. You should click on the articles to make sure it's right, right? But they do give you links and they explain. So if you even put in Robert Maxwell and publishing houses or publishing companies, you'll see the publishing companies he bought.

Like then people will say, like people have literally said to us, oh, that's conspiracy theories. Okay, no, no, it's literally true. McGraw-Hill-McMillan, Robert Maxwell. Done. Yeah. Look that up. So that is after he stole our nuclear secrets.

Not arrested, gets a state funeral in Israel, an absolute hero in Israel for robbing America. And by the way, the reason the New York Post mentioned the Russians is because the Israelis not only stole our nuclear secrets, but they shared it with the Russians in order to get something back from them, from the Soviet Union when we were mortal enemies. Because Israel's not our ally, Israel thinks we're a bunch of suckers to rob, take advantage of, abused in every way until they're done with us. Arcane Eclectic says on YouTube member section, we're dying for an independent ticket.

Simon Moody says there's probably better acting in a Melania movie than you get from an ice agent pretending to care. Okay, all right, we'll be back. All right, back on TYAT, Jenk, Anna and Tudja Tiraki. You're awesome for signing up. We appreciate you. Hit the join button below if you can, guys. Anna.

Well, if you are paying attention to cryptocurrency and the crypto markets, you might have noticed that crypto investors are having a hard day today. Real tough go with things. So let's talk about it. The price of Bitcoin is falling off a cliff. The cryptocurrency has lost a whopping 29% of its value this week alone. That's a lot.

And we're about to discuss why in just a moment. But first, Jenk, you know, you went to Wharton Business School. You know about the funds and games? What's going on here? Know about all the funds and games. Okay, so look, there's a big sell off, that's obvious. The question is why, and there's a very interesting theory that goes to the elites, maybe manipulating things.

No. No, they would never do that. That would never happen. But there's also a second part, hence to two cents, about what is happening for the entire economy and how this might be a symbol of it, so I need you to buckle up and brace for impact. So before we get to the reasons why this sell-off is happening, I really do want to focus a little bit longer on how big the Bitcoin sell-off really is. So here's a handy chart that you can take a look at and you can see, wow, the price of

crypto really did fall off quite a bit recently. Okay, so you're looking at the price of Bitcoin over the past year. And as you can see, about a year ago, the price of Bitcoin was just under $100,000 in In October of last year, the price of Bitcoin reached an all-time high of over $126,000. But since then, Bitcoin has erased all of the gains that it made last year. In fact, the price has plunged even further to approximately $67,000. So the price of Bitcoin has now reached a 15 month low, and people are wondering, is there any end in sight?

So Michael Burry, the investor who was portrayed by Christian, Christian Bail in the big short, says no, here's what he says. Sickening scenarios have now come within reach. Burry argued that Bitcoin has been exposed as a purely speculative asset, failing to take off as a debasement hedge similar to precious metals, because precious metals are actually worth something. Like Bitcoin is only worth the hype. You guys get it? Like, no one has been able to convince me or explain to me otherwise. Yeah. So what Michael Berry is saying is important because if Bitcoin operated the way that its enthusiasts, we're hoping, when the dollar is struggling, it could become a hedge. Hey, we can't rely on the U.S. government or other governments, but we have this Bitcoin that's

based in this system that's more sound. And so like gold, when the dollar is weakened or the economies or weekend, they should go up. But it's not going up, it's going down. So then Burry is saying, well, you know, economic laws and rules dictate that that means it is not something that has inherent value, it is just merely speculative. Exactly. Further losses, he said, could rapidly strain the balance sheets of major holders for selling across the crypto ecosystem and trigger widespread value destruction.

However, you should keep in mind that cryptocurrencies are notoriously volatile, right? So there have been other instances where there have been selloffs and then the value of crypto goes back up or these coins go back up. But I also want to just note the fundamental argument that Burry is making here still remains true. Bitcoin in and of itself is worth nothing. It's only worth the hype. And that's why you'll hear the crypto adherence and the fans of crypto, constantly talking

it up. But it's not actually worth anything on its own. So, and by the way, Bitcoin is really no exception. So three previous cycles have seen Bitcoin crash roughly 80% from its highs, only to rebound and drive even higher. So that goes to the point of volatility, volatility, sorry. So let's go to Bloomberg, because Bloomberg says that Bitcoin's crash is unlikely to affect the stock market overall. But we still need to discuss why this is happening right now.

Like what's causing this selloff? And to do that, we need to talk about precious metals. So the prices of gold and silver had increased dramatically in recent months. That being said, those prices fluctuated wildly in recent days. So even those assets, the value has gone down. People have been selling their gold and silver. But overall, the precious metals trade is considered to be a hedge against the weakening dollar. Known on Wall Street as the debasement trade, the strategy is driven by fear that government's

inability to tame inflation or slash debt will erode the system of currencies that underpin the global financial system. And Bitcoin has been marketed as a similar type of hedge. but it's failing to live up to that promise. As explained by CNBC, digital assets, including Bitcoin, have fallen deeper into the red as investors reassess the practical utility of a token that has been champion not only as a hedge against inflation and macroeconomic uncertainties, but also as an alternative to fiat currencies and traditional safe havens such as gold.

Investors could also be pretty wary about the stock market overall. which has been boosted extraordinarily with these high valuations for years. There are, I just think that quantitative easing has led to massive asset bubbles, including in the stock market, and I would, I'm worried about that. Because honestly, anyone who has invested in the stock market in the form of an IRA or 401K, even pensions, knowing that these asset bubbles exist, knowing that the stock market is kind of a house of cards given corporate stock buybacks, quantitative easing, cheap money, that stuff makes me worry. But nonetheless, one popular measure, a cyclically adjusted version of the price

to earnings ratios that rely on analyst forecasts of future profits says that stocks have been more expensive only once during the past 100 years. And that was right before the dot com bubble bust or burst in 2000. Yeah. So there's two different things here. One is Bitcoin and the other is the markets overall. Yes. Yeah.

And the state of the economy. So first off, on gold, yeah, it said had a little bit of a dip recently, but I don't think that that's indicative. I think that it's gone up 70% in the last year, which is huge. And the reason why it's going up is clear, which is that everybody's worried about the dollar and the markets overall. So that's indisputable, right? When you get to Bitcoin, you've got different, when you get to crypto, I should say, you've got different degrees of trust that people have, right? So like meme coins are just absolute trash and everybody knows they're trash.

And they're nothing but speculation, right? So the rest of it is different degrees. But people thought Bitcoin is the most stable. That's the real currency. That's not just like an NFT or a flash in the pan or a rug pull, etc. But now you're seeing, well, maybe it's not a rug pool and it's not, I think, although we're- No, I think it's a rug pull. Well, we've never trusted crypto, not once.

Yeah. I've always thought that it was a scam. By the way, Trump thought it was a scam. until he realized, well, why can't I be in on the scam? Oh, for sure. You know? Yeah, and then he loved the scam. So, but now you're seeing Bitcoin crash in a similar way.

And you get the sense, yeah, the whole thing's speculation. But now when you turn to the stock market and it's overvalued at a historic rate, well, in a sense, it's not a scam, but it's problematic. It's massively problematic. It's a bubble, right? Like it's artificially inflated. Yeah. So look, there's two theories as to why people do believe in the manipulation.

And when you read the Epstein files, Epstein talks about, hey, let's root for a crash, because if we get the crash, then we'll all be able to buy low. And those are some of the richest and most powerful people on Earth, right? Yes, yeah. Okay, but I think the larger phenomenon in this case is, I think Wall Street is high on their own supply. So they just keep buying and buying and buying and I know it's about the crash speed. spectacularly when I start hearing, no, Jake, this is a different type of market.

Right. This is the type of market that doesn't go down. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard that right before 2008, I heard that right before 2000. So we're in a lot of trouble here. And so the reality is, guys, why is it overinflated? They're like, oh, AI is going to create trillions of dollars in wealth going forward. These tech companies, trillions of extra wealth that's going to be created.

And we're all going to have robots and we're none of us are going to work. And they've got all these fantasies in their heads. But who's gonna buy all that stuff when AI leads to 10 to 20% unemployment? So I mean, we're not even talking about that that spectacular crash is definitely headed in our direction. But it's right now we're not, we're worried about the bubble before the crash, right? So it's just a Tinder box at this point. And I'm worried that people are gonna panic any second now and pull everything out of not

Not just Bitcoin, but the stock market, and then the collapse begins. Well, we're gonna weigh in on jobs and AI when we come back. And a surprising figure has been raising alarm over AI and job losses for quite some time now. We'll show you who it is. All right guys, I wish I could read all your comments, but I'm gonna go as quickly as I can. YouTube members first. Megaloronica says, I wonder which one makes more sense.

U.S. politicians protecting an Israeli spy or a Russian spy? Who's more logical to get a sweetheart deal? I thought the same exact thing. I thought like really the entire U.S. government is protecting Russian spies? Well that would be a gigantic story. That would be even bigger than protecting Israeli spies. So the entire time the Americans have been the Russians, and that is the load of crap that these legacy media outlets are trying to get you to believe.

Not remotely true. We all know the one country they protect above all, Israel. That's not close. Duncan, your roommate writes, and the bigger the pushback and distractions, the more crap behind the door, certainly applies in that case as well. That's right. Ada Jameson says, I submitted a comment on TYT ideas page. I would like, I would love to try organizing a protest outside of the establishment media

buildings to force them to acknowledge the Epstein Israel connection. I love that idea, and I love that you sent it in. TYt.com slash ideas. In my ideal world, people start to actually do those campaigns on their own without us. Somebody has a great idea like Eddie, others build on it, and then they go, hey, why don't we go in front of the Atlanta headquarters of CNN and go, hey, are you ever going to cover Israel's connections? That would be amazing. So I love it. Keep going, keep going, Eddie, great job. Everybody, you can write in at t.com slash ideas.

And you're not just writing into us, you're sharing it with the community. And people try to build on it. Let's go to Twitch. AJ Nestor says, you gotta love to Jen and Anna finish each other's sentences. I know, I realize that we do do that a lot. Yeah, well, 19 years. Swab writes in, if Epstein hadn't have messed with underage girls, he could have ruled the world. No, but remember, messing with underage girls was part of the plan to get the compromise on a lot of people.

By the way, including no, Leon Black paid Epstein a lot of money, and Leon Black is a huge supporter of Israel. So they even screwed over the supporters of Israel. Like they don't, they don't care about anyone but themselves, like meaning Mossad and whoever ran that operation, okay? You say like they wouldn't target Jewish Americans? Like you think you're safe if you're a Jewish American or even if you support Israel? No, they'll do anything and everything to help themselves. Green New Dealers, dragon says, corruption kills and leads to all things dark and evil.

Where are the justice stems? They should be attacking top party leadership of both parties, Effing sick. Is that even a thing anymore? Yeah, no, I don't think it's a thing. I mean, look, I started just Democrats with Shoycott, Chuck Arborati, whose office I was in yesterday. Check out our substack. I did her fun little video there. So t.t.com slash substack. And no, nobody thinks Justice Democrats exist anymore, and it's a shame, it sucks. Where are they? It's so weird. Where's Diana Presley? Where's Honestly, where's Rashida Tili? I mean, I see Ilhan Omar every once in a while. Where's Greg Kasar? He came on the show. He sounded amazing.

And then he went into a cave and we never saw him again. See, Jank, this is why I don't understand your insane optimism toward, oh, we just need to elect the right people. Like, come on. No, no, no. If you give up hope, it's never going to be. No, I have hope. And by the way, the guy who started just Democrats and Rebellion Pact, the first politician, Rokana, hope. Carlson, a terrible friend.

All right, back on TYT, Janganana with you guys. Guys, don't forget, save yourself a lot of time. Switching time saves $900. I don't know, I made that number out. Oh my God. Okay, tyD.com slash switch. Nothing on your phone changes. You get T-Mobile service.

If you don't like it, you go back to Verizon or 18T. They'll actually give you a couple hundred dollars to go back. So there's no way of losing here. Nothing else on your phone changes. T.y.com slash switch and $10 for the first one. month, that's a special deal right now, so go act. All right. Next story, go. You make specific reference to truck driving and the fact that there's going to be automated cars on the roads. So would you Tucker Carlson be in favor of restrictions on the ability of

trucking companies to use this sort of technology specifically to sort of artificially maintain the number of jobs that are available in the trucking industry? Are you joking? In a second. in a second. And I maybe would make up some pretext for public consumption like, oh, they're dangerous. The technology is not quite finessed. No, no. But the truth would be, I don't want to put 10 million men out of work because you're going to have 10 million dead families and the cascading effect from that will wreck your country. Based, jank for two cents. Ben looked really young there. Well, it was a long time ago. That was in 2018. So guys, the AI apocalypse is coming. And so,

Now, I'd normally I'd say, look, I don't know that I want to tell you that Tucker's right, but he has been right a couple times lately, and vis-a-vis Ben Shapiro gets a lot easier, way more right than Ben Shapiro. And so, but the key now is why was he right all the way back then? What are we seeing today that is problematic? And the hardest of all, what can we do about it? Well, look, what we're seeing today is that Tucker Carlson has been consistent on this issue. That video dates back to 2018, where he makes it abundantly clear that he would, yeah,

he would pass regulations that would ban AI from putting people out of a job in the trucking industry. And I'm happy to report that just recently he put out his newsletter and focused on this very topic and he's been consistent. So here's what he has just published. This was from his newsletter published today, Thursday, February 5th, blow up the data. centers? I'm listening. I'm listening. So, Carlson really does argue that the military, in case you're wondering, you know,

does Carlson really like argue that the military should blow up AI centers to Smithereens? It seems like yes, that is the case, but why? Well, he begins with a recent story involving the Amazon layoffs. And we did cover the previous round of Amazon layoffs. There's been a new round of layoffs. 16,000 corporate employees were recently fired. And Carlson writes about that saying, to be clear, the firings would be equally heartbreaking if they happen to be blue collar workers. These terminations are particularly significant, however,

because they punish the people who were supposed to be safe from AI. Look, no one is safe from AI, with the exception of people who work the trades, like carpenters, plumbers. Those are important jobs and you can't automate them. But anyway, for now, I hope that's the case forever. But anyway, America's ruling class, he writes, has spent decades telling the public they can avoid the consequences of automation and offshoring by going to college, getting degrees and learning the trades of a desk job. And by the way, that is true, right? The whole argument has been go to college, have a career.

I mean, you're untouchable, knowledge is power. And it turns out, no, I mean, AI, these technological advancements are leading to layoffs of both blue collar workers and white collar workers. So Carlson argues that the elites have gone back on that promise and look no further than the many CEOs who have warned that artificial intelligence will absolutely wipe out jobs, white collar jobs in particular. And Carlson has two solutions to this issue. Option number one, regulate the artificial intelligence industry.

Stunt, it's obviously demonic development, prohibit companies from firing workers and replacing them with computers, and ban self-driving. He says trucks. I would like to ban self-driving cars, period. I don't think that they're useful. I get it, some of you don't like to drive. Tough nuggets, okay?

Get over it. Be an adult. And if you don't want to drive, take public transportation and shut your mouth. I'm not really interested in watching self-driving vehicles all over my neighborhood, all over the streets. I don't like it. I'm going to disagree with you in a minute. Of course you are, because you don't like to drive. But if you don't like, you live like, anyway, you don't even have to deal with my commute.

I have to deal with the commute. Okay, I deal with the commute. Okay, I deal with the commute. Okay, all right, we'll get back to that. But anyway, so he also writes, yes, any of those moves could go against the strict enforcement of the cherished free market, but public schools and fire departments do too. The government's job is to protect its people, not adhere to 12th grade economics textbook ideology that shafts our country's workers. Ben Shapiro can call us communists all he'd like, we don't care.

That's pretty amazing. Yeah, so there's two really important topics in here. Number one is there's now kind of a separate. between the populist right and the corporate right. And so, and I welcome that. Because the corporate right is, what do you mean? Corporateism is great. Yeah, of course.

If you're not earning enough to earn enough for a house, that's your fault. You're being lazy. And you just don't like people who are more successful than you. To be fair, to be fair, neoliberal economic policy has really worked out well for the American people. So, by the way, those corporate Republicans

are funny enough, very similar to the corporate Democrats. Democrats and they have more in common than they do with the populist right or the populist left. And so we believe in protecting the American people, people like Ben Shapiro and Hillary Clinton, believe in protecting American corporations. Bingo. And it's not even American, they're multinational corporations. Bingo. And those are the people who fund them, whether it's in politics or in media.

Oh, what a coincidence. So but I don't think that it's as simple as Tucker's saying. Okay, he has another option. Okay. He has another option. regulation, boring regulation, is that really the option here, the real solution? He has a preferred option, and I want to read it to you. The preferred option is that President Donald Trump order a military strike on every data center in the country.

AI clearly threatens the United States more than Iran, and the few people in Washington who care about regular citizen should stop this project before it becomes too powerful to destroy. Why exactly does America need AI to make rich people even richer, to expand the wealth gap even wider, to twist the knife in the heart of the middle class as it desperately gasps for air? AI is fantastic for Wall Street, but it's terrible for average Americans. The latter should matter more. So like, where are you coming from, Jank? So here's the deal. So we've got an immovable object and an irresistible force scenario here, because there's

no winning. So we have to brace for impact, and we've got to get ready for what we're gonna do after impact. The reason why I say that is, so is AI a disaster Anna, like in terms of employment? It's no question. Because if AI is successful, which everybody in the markets think it is, everybody in government, in tech, so if they are right and AI successful, they acknowledge it will wipe away tons and tons of jobs, tens of millions of jobs, but they're not connecting the dots.

They all stop right there and they go, isn't it going to be great? We're all going to have robots cooking for us? No, not great at all. What are you going to do with all those people? And when you ask them, they go, oh, well, you know, universal basic income. No, wait a minute, wait a minute, a coder these days is getting between $120,000 and $200,000. At universal basic income, he'd be lucky to get $36,000. Is everybody going to live on $36,000 a year?

Or $24,000 a year? Yeah, and look, besides that, Jank, that's the most important point, right, about whether someone can live on whatever is going to be offered up for universal basic income. If they even do that, right? And we're just, we're making the assumption that that's going to happen. We shouldn't assume, okay? But even if that does happen, I think that these people who, plot what society is going to look like and they're all they're all excited because they're

going to benefit from AI, right? They make this assumption that everyone who's not them doesn't care about being fulfilled, doesn't care about living a life of purpose, doesn't care about working for an honest living. And I'm here to tell you, most people do want that. Most people do feel good about doing that. So taking that away from them and just handing them some like measly check so they shut up and take it, you know, and just accept what we've done. I don't think that's going to bode well. That's the second disaster. First disaster is unemployment.

Second disaster is the stripping away of your dignity and purpose. Yes, yes. And when that hits, they have no idea how angry people are going to be. So we're about to hit the biggest iceberg of our lives. And seemingly not a single person, again, outside of Rokana, seems to recognize it in Washington. talking about what are we gonna do? Are we gonna do a jobs program? Everybody's like, what do you mean? We're all making money on Wall Street. NVIDIA, baby. I mean, they're so clueless, it's singing. Okay, so then we, what's the other side?

Well, the other side is, guys, we're screwed because even if we stop doing AI, China's not gonna stop. South Korea and North Korea is not gonna stop. So we bought them. By they, no, no. I'm kidding. By the way, if they get good at AI, they'll just take our weapons through the computer programs. So, and now hold on, I'm gonna scare the living crap out of you. Okay, I'm okay, great, looking forward to it. A leading country in AI technology is Israel. We'll all be working for Israel if they win the race.

By the way, if we win the race, then Israel will just steal it. I have news for you. It's our, I mean, we've been working for Israel. Whether you'd like to believe it or not. I know, but then Palantir and Israel and AI combined, and this whole thing's over, okay? So guys, like, China's not gonna stop. Israel's not gonna stop, so then we're screwed. We have to keep going.

But, and we haven't even talked about the possibility that the AI could kill us all. And by the way, the top, the very top guys in AI say that's their number one concern. Look, honestly, with the way things are going, that might be a good thing. Maybe they take us out of our misery. Okay, all right, so now what in the world are we gonna do about this impending disaster? So some of it cannot be avoided. So we can have the debates about if you want self-driving cars or not. And I do, I think they're much better drivers than I am.

Well, I agree with you on that, but still, I'll still take the bad. Yeah, although if you're doing self-driving cars and there's a nefarious government that takes control over the cars, then you're in a different kind of trouble. And so anyways, but, but there are bare minimums that we should do. So number one is data centers right now are spreading their cost to all of us. If they go into a town, they're increasing the electric bill for the entire town and not paying it themselves, but making all of you in that town pay for it. So if you've got a data center in your town, you're getting screwed royally, right? And none of your government officials are telling you that because they're all getting greased by the AI guys.

So there's a couple of good guys as usual. Senator Chris Van Hollen from Maryland has a bill going, oh, no way should we pay for their data centers. He's like the new Bernie Sanders in the Senate, so that's good. So that's a small thing but an important one. But the main thing is we have got to get a gigantic jobs program ready. Because if all these people go out of work and there's no other option, we're gonna have pandemonium. So everybody's gotta get on this, we gotta fix it. We gotta go start following the guys who are smart enough to realize what the problems are,

like Rokana and Van Holland. And if you got guys on the right wing that recognize it, I'm all yours, right? Obviously here in this case, Tucker Carlson recognized the problem. I'm not sure his solution is the correct one to say the least in my opinion, but at least he recognizes the problem and wants to do something about it. So we're all gonna have to figure out how to do this because icebergs straight ahead. All right guys, when we come back, we're gonna do something interesting in the revolution. We're gonna talk to, we're on the today show, we have two on a hits for the price of one.

We're gonna talk to Cornell West and his wife on a heat. West and we're talking about Iran and if you think you know what we're going to say you don't it's going to be a really interesting conversation so stay right here the revolution is next