The Young Turks - Sacha Baron Cohen Strikes Again, Trump Flip-Flops On Previous Flip-Flop

Episode Date: July 23, 2018

GOP lawmaker takes off pants and screams N-word on Sacha Baron Cohen’s new show. Trump’s back-and-forth positions on Russia. Trump threatens Iran on Twitter. Trump rants about Washington Post and ...Amazon. NY Daily News lays off half its newsroom. Mike Cernovich’s old tweets resurface. Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, breaks it down. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 And unfortunately, a lot of news about the lunatic rantings of Donald Trump, who unfortunately is our president and has clearly lost his mind. So evidence forthcoming. We're going to get started here, though, with fun as we have the last couple of days. Thanks to Sasha Baron Cohen. So let's do it. So, Sasha Baron Cohen is at it again. We have seen him succeed wildly with conservatives, although at times some Republicans saying, no, I'm not going to do that when he asked for preposterous things. And we have seen him fail with Bernie Sanders when he tried to punk him.
Starting point is 00:01:43 So now we have Georgia State Representative Jason Spencer. Will he succeed? The answer is wildly, amazingly. you're going to love this. So the show is called Who's America? It's on Showtime. And I'm going to just show you clips here because we can't show you the nudity that Spencer agreed to do. Awesome, phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:02:07 But who the hell is Spencer? Why are we even having the conversation about him? Well, he made a little bit of news because he pushed for two things in Georgia. One was a Berka band, which he explained to Captain Aran Morad, one of the characters that Sasha Baron Cohen does. He renamed so that it wouldn't be illegal. Otherwise, he knew his own law was going to be illegal. The Berker Band is going to come into play here in just a minute when I show you the videos. And the second thing he's known for is threatening a fellow legislator in Georgia who happened to be African American,
Starting point is 00:02:42 saying that she better not go to certain parts of Georgia if she cares about her safety. So that's this charming gentleman. So having him mocked is particularly fantastic. And you can see how profoundly stupid he is in his reactions. So in talking about the burqa ban, Sasha Baron Cohen's character here tells him that he is sympathetic and that he used this trick as part of what he does in Israel of using selfie sticks to take pictures under people's burqas. He explains further here. I do not know whether this is a woman or a man with an explosive. We pretend to be a Chinese tourist because the Chinese are always taking selfie.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Okay, convince him or her that you are Chinese. Go. Oh, do you speak of the Red Dragon, Beijing, Hong Kong, and then I'm in Hong Kong, you know, Hong Kong, sushi. Oh, I see the Red Dragon, and you speak of Chinese, Ho Chi Minh, City. Oh, no, no, no, thank you, thank you. Red Dragon, chopsticks, sushi, sushi, oh, no. Good.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Let's look at the picture. He's not a terrorist. Okay. I mean, does it get any better than that? By the way, it's going to later in this segment. But I thought you couldn't top that. Red Dragon chopsticks, Ho Chi Minh City, Hong Kong. But my favorites were Kanigua, which is not Chinese.
Starting point is 00:04:21 And sushi, also not Chinese. Okay, wow. Okay. Oh, boy. Now, we're going to go to the second clip where he gets the representative to yell the N-word over and over again. Now, if you ask a rational person to do this, they would not. Apparently, Representative Jason Spencer was happy to, as you'll see in this clip. Now, we're going to play it in its entirety, because I want you to understand the power of the words, and it'll get lost if all we do is bleep them.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So here you go. Because of who you are, you could be the victim of kidnapping by ISIS. You have two seconds to attract attention. How do you attract attention? Ready to start screaming? Take your clothes off? In America, there is one forbidden world. It is the end world.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Now, I am going to be the terrorist. You have three seconds to attract attention. Go! Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Nigger! Are you crazy?
Starting point is 00:05:28 The N-word is Nune, not this world. This world is disgusting. Wow, wow. I laugh at the N-word is Nune. By the way, throughout, he says, I've been in Mossad for 13 years, not in Mossad. He keeps saying in Musad, not in Musat, very clearly. He gets, he punks him here and then tells him he punks him. But still, he manages to get more absurdity.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Now we're going way over the top. Buckle up, brace for impact. ISIS are scared of being seen as homo. You know what it means, Omo? Yeah, yeah. If your batok touch them, it means they have become a homosexual. Now I am going to teach you how to use your battocks to intimidate ISIS. Oh, show me the batok.
Starting point is 00:06:30 No, trousers down. Okay, go. America! Good, one more time, but louder with America. America! Good. Do any of you think that if someone told you to yell America, ass first, that you would take your trousers down when you're a state representative or anyone, any rational human being, and do that.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It got worse, but I can't show you the rest because he actually got him to take off his underwear. There's cameras everywhere. I mean, his ass is all over. I don't, they didn't show the front. Thank God. You know how he did it's super seat. It's easy. He said in Musad. I'm not in Musad. We have a saying, if you want to win, you show some skin. So the guy takes off his underwear and starts attacking him with his bare ass. That's who Representative Jason Spencer is. And that's why this show is great, because it exposes people for who they actually are. And that's the genius of Saja Baron Co.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Okay. America! Okay. forward. It's always fun to start out with a nice, I mean, only Sasha Barron can get a guy to yell the N-word and we all laugh, right? It's always fun to start the show with some nonsense. Okay, all right, now let's go to real problems.
Starting point is 00:08:11 So a lot of people say that they like Donald Trump. My main question to them is, which one? The guy A, lies nonstop, B, changes the story nonstop, which I'm going to show you in a second. So which Donald Trump do you like? I don't know. I don't think you know. Probably the one that doesn't like brown people. But anyway, so I'm going to show you a tweet from over the weekend where I think he lost his mind.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Then I'm going to show you video evidence of him changing his position at least three different times. And then you tell me which Trump it is that you like. All right. So he tweets over the weekend. So President Obama knew about Russia before the election. Why didn't he do something about it? Why didn't he tell our campaign? because it's all a big hoax, that's why, and he thought crooked Hillary was going to win.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Look, the only reason Obama didn't do anything before the election is because the Republicans yelled at him and said, if you dare say that, we'll say you're biased and you're anti-Republican. Okay, put that aside, though. Wait a minute, I saw Trump said over and over again that people saying that he doesn't think the Russians interfered are doing fake news. He thinks that Russians definitely interfered. But here he is, calling the entirety of the investigation a hoax. Remember, there's two parts.
Starting point is 00:09:22 There's the part where the Russians interfere. And then the second part is that they collude. If he says, look, the collusion is wrong, but they did interfere. Okay, that's a fine argument to make. I don't think it's true, but it's a fine argument to make. It doesn't mean he's irrational or a lunatic or anything like that. But again, he's saying here, the entirety of it, it's all a hoax, all made up. So let's break it down real quick and then put this in its proper order.
Starting point is 00:09:44 So you remember, of course, when he met with Vladimir Putin, Did the Russians interfere on our elections? This was his original answer. People came to me, Dan Coates came to me and some others. They said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I don't see any reason why it would be. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The Republic or UNFTR. As a young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful. But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom. In each episode of Un-B-The-Republic or UNFTR, the host delves into a different historical episode or topic that's generally misunderstood or purposely obfuscated by the so-called powers that be, featuring in-depth research, razor-sharp commentary, and just the right amount of vulgarity,
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Starting point is 00:11:14 brooding and exposing all the propaganda and disinformation you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. Okay, that was super clear. I don't believe my own director of national intelligence. I believe Putin said, I don't know why it would be. Now, it was crystal clear. Nonetheless, they pretended that he misspoke, so he said this. In a key sentence in my remarks, I said the word would instead of wouldn't. The sentence should have been, I don't see any reason why I wouldn't or why it wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:12:02 Russian. So that's where he looks like a chasing child is clearly reading off of prepared notes that are not his words. But okay, fine, he flipped. And he says, oh, no, no, no, I definitely think the Russians interfered. I don't know why it wouldn't be that. Although, of course, he added this part. I accept our intelligent community's conclusion that Russia's meddling in the 2016 election took place. Could be other people also. There's a lot of people out there.
Starting point is 00:12:37 He can't help himself. He goes off the script and goes, could be other people, a lot of people out there. Vlad, I'm not saying anything. But he clearly said, Russia's meddled in election. If you're a Trump voter, you can rewind the tape if you're like. Russia's meddled in the election, that's he, and he went on to tweet that if you are saying anything otherwise that you're fake news, because he's always been saying that Russia interfered with elections.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Now, of course, the next day, this happens. Is Russia still targeting the way out? Is Russia still targeting the rest of Mr. President? Yes, let's go. Make your way out. No, you don't believe that to be the case? Is Russia still interfering with our elections? He said no.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Now, everyone in the Intelligence Committee says that's not true. They are still actively interfering, and we're worried that they might actually get into the voter registration rolls. And they did in at least 21 states last time around, or they tried to infiltrate at least 21 states and got into seven. So they had to correct Trump again. So they sent Sarah Hocko Mee Sanders out to pretend that no meant yes. Watch. Earlier, Cecilia asked the president, is Russia still targeting the U.S.? He said no. Is that what the president actually believes?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Do you understand the question? And is his position that no, Russia is not doing anything to interfere or meddle in the 2018 election? He had a chance to speak with the president after his comments. And the president said, thank you very much. I'm saying no to answering questions. the president and his administration are working very hard to make sure that Russia is unable to meddle in our elections, as they have done in the past, and as if we have stated. So he does believe it's going off?
Starting point is 00:14:17 Well, since there's currently not an election today, not specifically, but we certainly believe that we are taking steps to make sure they can't do it again, unlike previous administrations, This president is actually taking bold action and reform to make sure it doesn't happen again. But he does believe that they would target certainly U.S. elections again. So now, two very clear flip-flops, I don't know why it would be Russia. I don't know why it wouldn't be Russia. No, they're not doing anything. Yes, they are.
Starting point is 00:14:54 We're taking bold steps to make sure that they don't meddle in our elections again. So if you left it just there, you'd say, all right, look, they did a correction. You call it lying, I call it tomato. Okay, fine. But then remember the weekend tweet. So after all those videos and all those things, Trump tweets out, and I'm going to get the Sarah Huckabee Sanders too, Trump tweets out this weekend, like I read to you. So President Obama knew about Russia before the election.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Why didn't do something about it? Why didn't he tell her campaign? Because it's all a big hoax, that's why. So wait a minute. Then, okay, this is your third flip-flop. So now you're saying the entire investigation of Russia is a hoax. Okay, look, before I get to conclusions, now, this is when Sarah Huckabee Sanders normally comes out and goes, no, he didn't, no, he didn't call it a hoax, he called it that he's taking
Starting point is 00:15:45 it very seriously. But nope, nope, nope, Trump has apparently told everybody, no, we're back to hoax, it's all made up, the whole thing's made up, so here's Sarah Huckabee Sanders now. And I think we'd all be a lot better off if we could get this out of the way and that Congress and the special counsel could come to the same conclusion that the rest of America has, that this is a hoax and a waste of time. And let's move on and focus on some of the big problems and big challenges we actually have to face as a country. So let's go over conclusions. One, if you believe Donald Trump, which Donald Trump? the one that says Russia did meddle in our elections or that the entire investigation is a hoax.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Which one? Since the guy's a pathological, nonstop liar, you have to pick one of those trumps that you like. Okay, second conclusion is, of course he's not doing anything about Russian meddling. He loved it. It helped him. And now he doesn't want any point of that investigation because that investigation is uncovering things that connect him to Russia and Vladimir Putin. So that's why he's in a panic and screaming over the weekend. It's all a hoax, of course.
Starting point is 00:16:57 And thirdly, and I think most importantly, we have to seriously consider the 25th Amendment. The guy's lost his mind. I mean, if you were a rational actor and you were just doing, and you were a bad actor, assume for a second that he did do it, okay? So this is me giving him the benefit of the doubt, not on the substance of the charges, but that he hasn't lost his mind. How would you then act? You would try to do a subtle cover up where you would say,
Starting point is 00:17:27 oh my God, you know, I'm really concerned about the Russian meddling and I'm on it, but then you really wouldn't do anything. But on the surface, you would keep saying, oh, those dastardly Russians, I'm going to go get him, et cetera. But since he's mentally unstable, he can't help himself. So he's like, they didn't do it. They didn't do it. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:47 What is that? What is that? If he ever had a mind, he's lost it. And we're all going around as if the emperor has clothes on. Unfortunately, he doesn't. Just because he's the president, we move on with our lives. But the reality is, this guy is deeply, deeply unstable. And then it matters a ton when he does the all caps threatening a war with Iran later
Starting point is 00:18:13 in the weekend. Because this deeply unstable guy could do anything, attack anyone. with the obvious exception of Russia. So we've got to get him out of office. Do you know, even if you're a Trump supporter, do you know what he's going to say tomorrow? Do you know if he's going to say that, oh, yeah, Russians meddled
Starting point is 00:18:33 than anybody who says otherwise is fake news? Or that the Russians did not meddle, and it's all a big hoax. And anyone who says otherwise is fake news. Do you know which Donald Trump's going to show up tomorrow? No, you don't. Even if you're a mager guy, you don't know that. No one knows that.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Donald Trump doesn't know that. You know why? He's deeply unstable. Remember the tweets where he famously declared himself a very stable genius. We moved on with our lives because it's the uncomfortable fact that he's president. No one in their right mind tweets into the ether, yells into the ether, I'm a very stable genius. Only ludicists do that. In that series of tweets, he said, there are two things I'm known for in my life.
Starting point is 00:19:15 One is being like a smart person, okay, and two is I am known for my mental stability. I've said this before, any guy, a girl, it doesn't matter, walks into a bar, comes up to you and says, hey, I'm known for two things in my life, being like a smart person and being really mentally stable. You're like, okay, I got to go. I got to go, this guy's nuts. I got to get out of here before he does something wrong. He's the president. He's the president.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Stop pretending that he's mentally stable because he has deep mental problems. Okay, now I'm going to do, unfortunately, something even more important along the similar lines. Let's go to Iran, okay? So Donald Trump spent part of the weekend sending mentally unstable tweets about the Russian investigation, calling it a hoax, flip-flopping at least for the third time. And then he went on to Iran, oh boy, this is where it gets really dangerous. So I'm going to point out the hypocrisies here, what the political aim could be, but I don't want you to lose focus. The most important thing here is that we not go to war with this lunatic in office who's
Starting point is 00:20:26 capable of doing anything. So let me explain how this all got started. First of all, President Hassan Rouhani of Iran said this over the weekend. Mr. Trump, don't play with the lion's tail. This would only lead to regret. This is an obvious reference to the United States withdrawing from the deal that we had with Iran. It was a fantastic deal for us. It ended their uranium program, their nuclear program, which was for energy.
Starting point is 00:20:56 We, all we had to do is give them their money back that we had taken hostage and convinced the rest of the world to take hostage. And we ended their nuclear program. But of course, Donald Trump was like, Obama did it. So I'm going to destroy it, and maybe Putin will get tapes of us destroying it. Anyway, so he's going to destroy it, he did, so that's why Iran's mad. So then he goes on to say that Rouhani does. America should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace. That's pleasant.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And he says, and war with Iran is the mother of all wars. Okay. Now, should he say that last part? Of course not. Is this something that happens in foreign diplomacy with far too much regularity? Yes, and it's so painfully stupid. The mother of this and the mother of that. So Kim Jong-un comes out and says, we're gonna destroy you and pulverize you and et cetera.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And then Trump says, my button is bigger than yours. Now here we go again with Rouhani. The only place where this rule does not apply is Russia. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives, constantly monitoring us and storing and selling our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them. It's possible to stay anonymous online and hide your data from the prying eyes of big tech. And one of the best ways is with ExpressVPN. ExpressVPN hides your IP address, making your active ID more difficult to trace and sell the advertisers.
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Starting point is 00:22:51 with this exclusive link just for TYT fans. That's EX, P-R-E-S-V-P-N dot com slash. TYT. Check it out today. Russia can say anything to us. They could do anything to us, and Trump will not yell back at them. But this is not Russia, it's Iran. So what does Trump do? He sends this maniacal tweet. This is the president of the United States. He said, to the Iranian president Rouhani, all caps now, because he's a child screaming into the abyss, never ever threaten the United States again, or you will suffer consequences, the likes of which few throughout.
Starting point is 00:23:30 history I've ever suffered before. We are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words of violence and death. Be cautious. Here we go again, to the brink. It's exhausting, man. So who knows? Maybe tomorrow, just like he did it with Kim Jong-un, he'll turn around and be like, Rouhani's a great guy, smart guy.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Only a certain one out of 10,000 mullahs could do what he did. I don't know, it's Donald Trump, he's unstable. But on a day that he's not feeling particularly well, is he going to press the nuke? It's a real concern. When he talks about death and destruction like the world has never seen, that appears to be referring to nukes. Or I guess if you can do it in a conventional way and butcher 80 million people in Iran in a conventional way, I guess Trump would threaten that as well. It's funny because Iran had words. They had half a sentence from the president that Trump didn't like.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Russia actually acted, according to all of our intelligence and Donald Trump on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays, they did interfere in our election. They did, and they're actively engaged in cyber warfare against us today, according to his own director of national intelligence. Nothing, nothing against Russia. Iran doesn't do anything. It says something wrong. And he's like, I'm going to destroy you. We're going to have death and destruction. Gee, I wonder if there's a difference. I can't quite tell. And yet still, people on the right and a tiny percentage on the left are like, no, I don't see it, man. I don't see it. I think he's treating Russia the same as everybody else. He's just worried about the nukes. He says, oh, the nuclear is a big problem in Russia.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But now you threaten nuclear war, you did with North Korea, you do it with Iran. This is the same president who said that he wanted to increase the size of our nuclear arsenal by tenfold. Well, I thought you were concerned about the nukes. No, no, he's deeply belligerent with everyone except Russia. Okay, but more importantly is, is this a distraction? And if it's just a distraction with words, I'll take it. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:54 All right, the guy's a lunatic. I already knew that. He can scream into Twitter as long as he likes. And I obviously, he's trying to get people to stop paying attention to all the damaging evidence that's coming out in the Russia investigation. Now they have Michael Cohn's 12 tapes where they were talking about his mistresses, et cetera. He doesn't want you to look at that. He wants you to look at Iran and distract you with that way.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And Fox News is going to help him. If he leaves it at that, I don't care. It's typical politics. But if he thinks the next step is, oh, I'm in a lot of trouble, you know what would be a really helpful distraction and what rallies the country, no matter what, war. And war in the Middle East, war with Muslims. Oh, too easy, too easy. In fact, he charged President Obama with potentially doing that.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Of course, it was projection. Now that he's president, that's what he actually does. And so now Rouhani has to respond. Otherwise, he looks incredibly weak to his own voters and supporters in Iran voters, such as they are. Anyway, so instead of Rouhani, they sent out Javad Zarif, who often gives out the statements for the Iranian government. And he says, color us unimpressed. He said, the world had even harsher bluster a few months ago. And Iranians have heard them, albeit more civilized ones, for 40 years.
Starting point is 00:27:16 We've been around for a millennia and seen the fall of empires, including our own, which lasted more than the life of some countries. Be cautious. Okay, great. So in order to distract you, Donald Trump might start a war. Some libertarian, some on the left think, no, no, no, no, he's actually a peaceful guy. He wants peace with Russia, that's why he keeps giving them everything they want. And that's why he gave Kim Jong-un everything and got nothing in return.
Starting point is 00:27:46 No, he doesn't want peace. All he cares about is himself. You think he would hesitate for a second to start a disastrous war that would kill hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people to save his own political ass? If you think he would pause for a second, you don't know Donald Trump at all. He has no conscience, does not care about other human beings at all. The only question in his mind is, does this help Donald Trump or does it not help Donald Trump? By the way, for those of you that are concerned about interference, I'm concerned about
Starting point is 00:28:18 interference, let's also be fair about interference from other countries. If you didn't see this story, this happened very recently. Benjamin Netanyahu came out and bragged on tape. That's the prime minister of Israel. We convinced the U.S. president to exit the deal, referring to the Iran deal, and I had to stand up against the whole world and come out against this agreement, and we didn't give up. So if you're concerned about Russian interference, maybe you should also be concerned about Israeli interference.
Starting point is 00:28:44 But of course, in the mainstream media, no, no, no, no, no. Israel interfering in our elections is awesome, wonderful, just like it should be. Russia interfering is terrible. I, on the other hand, am consistent. I don't want either one of those countries or any country interfering with our elections, with our president, with our policy, and then bragging about it and rubbing people's face in it. Oh, I took a great deal that the U.S. had, and I smashed it because the Americans work for me. Yay.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I can say that out loud because the media's not going to pay any attention, and all the politicians basically support Danielle and a lot of the Democrats bragging that, oh, no, we wanted to move the embassy before Donald Trump did. All right, I'm just, and it's pertinent to this story, and I'm giving you all the details. Now, here comes Fox News. They got to do propaganda and beat the war drums for Donald Trump. So here's round one. But Iran, as you know, this is a country that yells death to America.
Starting point is 00:29:38 So they're, you know, we're, we've been in a conflict with them for a very long time. State sponsors of terror, like Steve said, they're not having such a great situation. They're at home right now. And let's remember a few key facts here. If we wanted to, we could wipe out Iran with the push of a button. That's militarily. Economically, with regard to everything that's going on there, sanctions could literally destroy the regime that's in power right now. And when push comes to shove on the international economic stage, who is the international community going to side with?
Starting point is 00:30:09 A trading partner like the U.S. that has 330 million people or a whatever it is in Iran that has about 80 million people. They're going to side with Iran. Excuse me, they're going to side with the U.S. Iran really doesn't have a like to stand on here and trying to threaten us. I've seen this movie before. Oh, they'll throw roses at our feet. The Iraq war will be really easy. The original estimate by the neocons in a congressional hearing for how much the Iraq war would cost was $1.7 billion.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And they said it might last a couple of weeks. It lasted over a decade and cost $2.4 trillion at a minimum. So now they're on Fox News again. Oh, it'll be easy. We win at the press of a button. It's 80 million people in Iran. It's four times larger than Iraq. If you thought Iraq war was an epic disaster, you are right.
Starting point is 00:30:56 and the war in Iran would be far worse, far worse, it would not be easy. It would be disastrously difficult. And of course, these morons have no idea. They blithely talk about war like it's a game. So more of this, round two from Fox News. You seem to be having a reaction while I read that tweet. What is it? Oh, I mean, or what?
Starting point is 00:31:18 What's the president going to do? It's really easy at midnight to put caps lock on your computer or your iPhone and tweet tough words, but what does that mean? Well, he's obviously sending a message. But what message? He's going to attack Iran? You think we'd just be like passive as we have been for 30 years? No, but you don't. Every time they say death to America, down with the USA, down with the red, white, blue over and over. People all across America are in back going, why don't we still, why don't we stiff on our spine when it comes to this? But you know what, Bill, they don't want their sons and daughters to go to war. I'm not talking war. Well, what's the president talking about that?
Starting point is 00:31:53 Right now we're talking words because that's all the Ayatollah and all the Iranian president seems to be full of these days. And that's words and the president's response. Bill Hemmer is particularly loathsome. So when he worked at CNN, he was middle of the road, Bill Hever. The Republicans say this, Democrats say that. Now he works for Fox News. He's like, who's signing my paychecks? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:15 When are we going to stiffen our spine against Iran? They've been talking stuff about us the whole time. Okay, by the way, that was Marie Harf that he was responding to. She's a former Obama State Department spokeswoman, so that's why she was the only one making sense. And I don't remember Hemmer, though, in his strikeback talking about stiffening our spine. I don't remember him saying that about Russia. Hey, they interfered with our elections.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Why don't we stiffen our spine? It's about time we did something with Russia. No. No, no, no big deal, no big deal. Iran said a couple of things. Iran said words, they've been doing this the whole time. Let's do our war, we're going to do anything about it. Oh, they love war.
Starting point is 00:32:58 As long again, as long as it's not Russia, okay, they're like, we're going to make money? The defense contracts is the oil companies, sponsors, we're all going to make money? Great! Which disastrous war where millions of innocent civilians died do we start next? Stiff in our spine. That seems fairly selective. And then he disingenuously say, I'm not talking about war. You read, I just read you the tweet.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Trump says they will suffer consequences like the world has never seen. While we do what, play patty cakes? What is he referring to there? Obviously, he's referring to war. What else is that? Well, we will beat them in checkers like you have never seen before. No, of course he's talking about war. And Fox is like, oh, finally, we're back to belliger, it's great.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I got so tired of kissing Russian ass. people actually doing something to our country. Iran said words, let's attack. And of course, they have an unstable, mentally incompetent president. So I guess war is more likely. They must be thrilled. So the neocons, they didn't get what they wanted in Russia. And I'm glad about that. I want him to actually protect our voting booths and our democracy. I don't want him to do that through war against Russia or anyone else. I don't think the military option is smart when it comes to Russia or Iran. We are always consistent and logical.
Starting point is 00:34:23 They, on the other hand, go, Russia, I'm really going to do anything. Russia, what's the big deal? Iran, let's go to war. They say half a sentence I don't like. Typical of the conservatives and their nonstop hypocrisy and war mongery. Young Turks. Back on a young tour, a bunch of comments for you guys. Jim Lawrence writes in, yeah, Representative Spencer got exposed, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Get it? Get it? I like that pun, Jim. Stephen Luke writes in, people who want to ignore the topic of Russia just because they are bored with the topic are insane. Putin might be controlling your president. If you want more of my opinions on that, go on Twitter today, and you'll get more than you bargained for.
Starting point is 00:35:04 We can talk about it in the post game with John today, too, if you guys like. And I know that it's an explosive topic. All right, star 7434 writes in on YouTube super chat. I think you guys are missing the larger picture, Netanyahu's role, his many visits to Moscow in the past several months, as well as the Saudi prince. They're looking to isolate Iran, eventually war, question mark? No, I'm not missing that at all. I'm deeply, deeply worried about that is definitely what Netanyahu wants.
Starting point is 00:35:32 That is definitely what the neo-conservatives in America won. I think Russia's role on this is very unclear, actually. The Saudis definitely want war against Iran as well. All right, clear singularity says, so this is what was discussed between Trump and Putin and Helsinki. Get your popcorn, folks. I hear you on that. All right, two tweets for you because they're great. Rafford Review says, Fox News says, they chant death to America while in an express saying,
Starting point is 00:35:59 we could destroy them with the push of a butt. It's a great point. Like, oh, no, no, we're allowed to say we death to Iran and we could. destroy them and want to destroy them, we should destroy them, and stiffen our spines and all that stuff, anytime we want, but they can't dare say it back. Okay, and finally, Captain JinglePants says, in a tweet befitting of his handle, in a public bathroom stall, watching TYT, and Jenks says, yelling America ass first, has me laughing. I'm sure the guy in the next stall is creeped out. Okay, that's probably true Captain Jingle Pants, but I do appreciate that you're watching
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Starting point is 00:38:49 that just passed 4 million subscribers. But let's all go and be members now so that we can support progressives in the entirety of the network. TYT.com slash join. Thank you. Okay, now let's move on to more news of the day. Okay. So Donald Trump attacking Amazon again. Now, he has a fundamental misunderstanding of who owns the Washington Post, but I will get into all the details here.
Starting point is 00:39:23 First, let me give you more lunatic tweets from the president. He says the Amazon Washington Post has gone crazy, ironic that he would say that, has gone crazy against me ever since they lost the Internet tax case in the U.S. Supreme Court two months ago. Next up is the U.S. Post Office, which they use at a fraction of real costs as their, quote, delivery boy for a big percentage of their packages. In my opinion, the Washington Post is nothing more than an expensive. The paper loses a fortune lobbyist for Amazon is it used as protection against antitrust claims, which many feel. should be brought. Okay, let's break this down on why it's problematic. So first of all, Amazon doesn't own the Washington Post. Of course. Okay, so now to be clear, Jeff Bezos personally owns the Washington Post. He's also the founder of Amazon. So I get if you made that mistaken
Starting point is 00:40:19 connection, and I get if you say, hey, look, it's Bezos either way. But you're not the president, and hence you don't speak for the government where freedom of the press is a constitutional issue. So he should, at a bare minimum, understand the facts. So Amazon does not own the Washington Post, Bezos does. If you think that's a small distinction, no problem, okay? Is there some truth to his point about how some billionaire owners will use their media outlets for propaganda?
Starting point is 00:40:49 Yeah, that's also true, okay? And some do it unwittingly, I would argue that a lot of the corporations that run the bigger cable news channels have a worldview that is pro status quo because they're doing great in the status quo. They're with multi-billion dollar corporations. So they have an establishment point of view. Murdoch does propaganda through his outlist. Now, fair is fair, Fox News makes money.
Starting point is 00:41:14 But the New York Post does not make any money. Last time that there was report about it, they explained this was a couple of years back that the New York Post loses $50 million a year, every year. So why does Murdoch keep it? Because he likes to do propaganda in New York, because he thinks that it helps his other businesses. So it's not that there are no legitimate points in this. It's that he's the president. And you cannot attack the Washington Post, which is obviously a part of the press, in your official government role.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Because it's deeply unconstitutional. I know he's never read the Constitution. I know he's never read the First Amendment. But the First Amendment is incredibly clear. We have a freedom of the press. It is specifically mentioned in the United States Constitution, not just freedom of speech, but it says freedom of the press. So if you criticize the Washington Post or I do, that's fair game.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Even if he, as president, he criticizes them, no problem, okay? They're allowed to speak and they're allowed to print whatever they like and he's allowed to say things back to them, okay? And I have my issues with the Washington Post. By the way, I also have issues with Amazon. So Washington Post, I think, was deeply biased against Bernie Sanders, and I called him out on that. Amazon has significant issues with what they're doing with their workers. Bernie Sanders did a great town hall where that was one of the companies that they talked
Starting point is 00:42:36 about, and great points made all around on that. But it's one thing for us to do it. It's when the president says, not only that he criticized them, but he says, let's maybe press an antitrust case against Amazon because their owner owns a newspaper criticized me, that's unconstitutional. And I know that Trump is not sophisticated enough to be able to do nuance, but we need the rest of us to be rational and say, here's criticism that makes sense, and here's where you cross a line.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So, and of course, the reality is there's also projection in here, which is that they, the right wing has almost purely propaganda, almost all of their websites online, are backed by billionaire Republicans who are not interested in making a profit, none of those companies ever make a profit. No, it is done for propaganda. So Trump turns around and goes, that's what we do. So I guess that's what they're doing. So I'm going to shut him down, maybe with anti-trust claims.
Starting point is 00:43:37 And finally, actually the most damaging part is now if you're going to press an antitrust case against Amazon, he just made it infinitely harder. Because Amazon can now walk into any court and go, the president is clearly trying to control our speech. He says in his tweets and in his statements over and over again, he doesn't like what Bezos is printing in the Washington Post. That's why he's attacking Amazon through an antitrust claim. Well, you just screwed up to antitrust claim. As usual, pathetically stupid and does not understand our system of government. And if there was a case to be made against Amazon, he just ruined it. So ironically, Bezos has got to be thinking, how did I get this lucky
Starting point is 00:44:22 to have this schmuck in office. All right. Now, let me quickly go to another piece of propaganda that they put out there. Wait, actually, before that, I got a daily news story. I got to give you. Sorry, yes. Today it was announced that the Daily News in New York is cutting half of its newsroom staff. Now, New York Daily News has been around for 99 years.
Starting point is 00:44:50 They won 11 poster prizes. And so this is devastating news as of the people in New York. They were bought by Tronk last year. Trunk's a super weird name. It's a new name that they gave to an old company Tribune when they split the company into two. Now, I'm not a big fan of Trunk and the actions they've taken at the L.A. Times, Chicago Tribune and other places. But we have to be fair here. Let me read you their statements and then tell you what I think happened.
Starting point is 00:45:20 In an email to staff, they said, we are fundamentally restructuring the daily news. We are reducing today the size of the editorial team by approximately 50% and refocusing much of our talent on breaking news, especially in areas of crime, civil justice, and public responsibility. Well, I think that they have to. So people say they shouldn't. Shouldn't, it's an interesting word. So I'll get into that in a second, but let me give you more context. As Huff Post explains, after trunk purchased the financially troubled daily last summer for a mere $1,
Starting point is 00:45:54 it began restructuring that eliminated many New York-based positions and centralized some rolls and trunks Chicago headquarters. Guys, nobody buys something for a dollar if it isn't in a world of trouble. So they bought it basically so that they could take the cost off the hands of the previous owner. And a previous owner was like, just take it, take it. That's how much financial trouble that it's in. more context, referring to trunk, it changed direction and dedicated self to the daily news did
Starting point is 00:46:22 into digital news, making it a top ten publisher as recently as 2016, but it has downside substantially over the year, sustaining a major layoffs in 2013, 2014, and even earlier this year, when 21 people, mostly production workers, were let go. So we could rage against this machine, but I'm going to tell you what's wrong with the machine in one more second, but I want to give. Jim Rich, his opportunity to weigh in on this, he was editor-in-chief. He said, if you hate democracy and think local governments should operate unchecked and in the dark, then today is a good day for you.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Now, unfortunately, that's true. Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York came out against this, and so did Governor Cuomo in New York. But you can come out against it, but the question is, what are you going to do about it? And so the most important question is it goes to you guys. because, unfortunately, a lot of the news businesses become unsustainable, and most definitely the newspapers. So here's what happened, guys.
Starting point is 00:47:19 They lost their classified section. It's not Craigslist's fault. It's just normal disruption and technology. But their classifies got obliterated. That was a huge part of how they made money. Then people stopped reading the newspaper. You know why? In the old days, the newspaper was a main way that you got the news.
Starting point is 00:47:35 There was a morning edition, there was an afternoon edition, an evening edition. you didn't have the internet, you didn't have TV. So you actually needed the newspapers for news. Now very few people actually rely on the printed newspaper to get their news. Obviously, there's a not just a morning, afternoon and evening edition of the news. There's nonstop edition of the news online. So of course they were going to lose a lot of their readers, a lot of their subscribers, et cetera. Then the third thing that happened is advertisers panicked over news. Oh my God, it's brand unsafe. Run for the hells.
Starting point is 00:48:14 By the way, some of the mainstream media started that as an attack on digital media, predominantly against Facebook and Google, but it backfired on them. Now it is affecting all of news. So does daily news have real financial trouble? And is that why they made these cuts? Or they just kind of wanted to make it to ruin the news? No. Even with any questions you might have about trunk and how they manage other papers.
Starting point is 00:48:38 They had to make the cuts because they're not making enough money. So that's the real problem. So how can you fix it? Look, it's up to you guys. And I know that on the Young Turks, we talk a lot about good progressive candidates. You can give money to movements to get money out of politics, et cetera, et cetera. But if there's a paper that you like, support them by subscribing. Look, I'll give you another example, New York Times.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Now, they can say this was a coincidence. but when the majority of their money came from advertising, they had the Harvey Weinstein story, but they did not break it. Back then, one of their top advertisers was Weinstein's movie company. And hey, what a coincidence. They held the story and didn't run it. Now, the majority of the revenue for the New York Times comes from you guys, from subscribers.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So they had the Harvey Weinstein story and boom, they run it. Look, in that case, maybe it was a coincidence. But I know that if you're beholden to subscribers, the actual audience, you're going to get much better news in journalism, okay? So I don't know if you like the daily news. If you do, I don't even know, you know, to what degree they have a digital subscription business, but they should. Okay, if they don't, then they're doing something wrong. But then support them that way. If you want to grow any news organization, the way you do it is by supporting them and subscribing.
Starting point is 00:49:59 By the way, that also applies to us. So if you like what we're doing, t-y-t.com slash join. Become a member, get all of our shows, get them ad-free, and support the home of progressives. So we can complain about the daily news layoffs, you can complain about newspapers going out of business left and right, or if you've got digital media companies that you like that are having trouble. But the only way to solve it is to actually bring in more revenue, and the way you do that is by having more subscribers.
Starting point is 00:50:30 So, and this is me trying to help, yes, ourselves, because I'm telling you the reality and I'm telling you what makes this show run and this network run with all these progressives in it. But also the daily news is a constructive and a real way to actually help them rather than just saying, oh, it's terrible and the company's bad. No, man, these are the realities of the news business in today's America. So I can go on and on about it. But if you like the daily news, you should go subscribe.
Starting point is 00:50:58 to them. That's the only way they're going to be able to maintain their staff and grow it, and that's just the reality. Okay, I got to take a break, guys. When we come back, I'm going to take on the alt-right attack against James Gunn. If you have not seen this story and you don't know where it came from, wait until you watch this, because it gives you a sense of the right-wing attack machine and what they do on a regular basis and what they did to the director of Guardians of the Galaxy. We'll do that when we return. Thanks for listening to this podcast. You're Only halfway through. So hold, hold, stay right here.
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Starting point is 00:52:13 Peter Hamby writes in on YouTube, Super Chat. Four million on YouTube. We are the Young Turks. We are progressive students to Professor Jank Yugar. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but thank you. He says, we've become the voice heading to November and then the big stage coming 2020. That is definitely true. And then finally, Jim Lawrence says he, Trump really doesn't like the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:52:31 It's not like they ever took down a president with a story before. Good, good point and why he might be concerned. All right, now let's go do the major story on the all right. Okay. James Gunn was the director of Guardians of the Galaxy. I say was because he was recently let go by Disney because of a controversy online regarding some very old tweets that he sent. Now, he came up through an area where he did shock humor and did some entertainment that
Starting point is 00:53:05 was more schlocky as well. And he wrote some tweets that were definitely considered offensive today. He has apologized for them. And people think, well, that's it, that's the whole story. No, that is not the whole story. Let me tell you what actually happened so that you have the proper context. First of all, there are a lot of people who understand the context and a lot of people who work with him who are now rallying to his defense. So they too are being attacked, which is part of the game plan, as I will outline to you.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So Selma Blair is one of the people who are supporting him, worked with him in the past. So she sent out this tweet encouraging people to sign a petition to get him rehired by Disney. By the way, this morning, it's probably now much higher, but that petition already had over 170,000 signatures. Now, the reason for that is not because people necessarily know all of James Gunn's track record, but those people understand where these attacks came from and why conceding to those attacks is a terrible, terrible idea. Give you some background on Blair, Huff Post writes Selma Blair, a victim of sexual harassment, who was encouraged by Gun to step forward in her claims against director James Tobach as the Me Too movement gained steam. thank Gunn for decency and your evolution as a man.
Starting point is 00:54:26 She went on to write, I thank you for your talent, your decency, and your evolution. You prop me up when I was in a scary place and guided me towards a decent and right thing to do. You have shown strength of character more than most anyone I know, you understood. So his actions showed that he was actually incredibly supportive of women. And so others in the industry are defending him, including Pat and Oswald. and now they are being viciously attacked by a smear machine on the right. And so these are over, by the way, old jokes. Now, you can say the jokes were off color, they were offensive, and that's what James Gunn says.
Starting point is 00:55:05 And he agrees with you on that. And that's why he does not stand by them. But they were clearly jokes. Nobody thinks that he was being serious. So the guy who took them seriously on purpose is Mike Cernovich. So he is a leading alt-right figure. Sometimes he says he's all right. Sometimes he says he's alt light.
Starting point is 00:55:22 I don't really care. He's a right winger who revels in this kind of smears and has done it over and over again to people like Sam Cedar, Pat Nosswald, myself, and the list goes on. So he feigns concern about rape and pedophilia. Those are his go-to moves. So since the jokes of James Gunn were on those topics, Mike Sternovich pretends to care deeply. Now, let's find out Mike Turner, which is real opinions on the issues. He once wrote, rape via an alpha male is different from other forms of rape.
Starting point is 00:55:58 We can't really understand this as our culture is too detached from instinct. So apparently, if you consider yourself an alpha male, that is a different kind of rape and is what, permissible? This is the guy pretending to be concerned, buckle up, I mean, we're at the tip of this iceberg. I'm gonna show you a lot of the iceberg. There's way too many outrageous quotes to give you all, but it's gonna give you plenty so you get a sense of who this guy is. Now he mixes in race here.
Starting point is 00:56:23 He says, today we have a moment of silence for Trayvon Martin's rape victims. Kidding, he got got before he was able to rape anyone. Now, why would you presume him that Trayvon Martin, who was 17 years old, was going to rape anyone? I think the answer is very, very obvious. But, by the way, he wrote kidding in the middle of that tweet. Should everyone fire him from everything ever? Because he just made a rape joke? Interesting.
Starting point is 00:56:47 It almost seems like he's hypocritical, to say the least. Here's him making more racial comments. Not being a slut is the only proven way to avoid AIDS. If you love black women, slut shame them. Now, look, there's so many things offensive about that tweet, but understand that what he's mainly saying is he's implying that black men have AIDS, so you would be helping black women if you slut shame them and make sure they don't sleep with black men who presumably have AIDS.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Now, you can say, oh, no, and he will. Oh, I meant all men. Okay, look, let's just keep going because there's too much to analyze any one tweet too much. Then he goes for anti-Semitism. I don't know if you've seen this on Twitter, but the alt-right was putting three parentheses around Jewish writers' names. It is despicable. It's called Echo. He defended.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Of course, of course. So he says, Echo exists because people got tired of seeing we white people are evil and oppressed blacks. speak as Jews, not whites, honesty. Okay. So he's saying, I'm just labeling the Jews because they're not really white. And they shouldn't speak for whites. Okay, that's Sernovich. Now, you might have heard of Pizza Gate.
Starting point is 00:58:04 A huge proponent of Pizza Gate. And by the way, all he does is lie. So in the beginning, Pizza Gate and Pedestha and Clinton, and they've got a pedophile ring. That's his favorite go-to move. accuse every one of his opponents of being a pedophile, and you'll see why in a second. And then later when a guy goes in and shoots up the place, he's like, I never did pizza gate. Okay, here's one of, wait, actually, before I get to that, let me give you more on his real views on rape. Okay, so he says, do a Google image search for a lines mating.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's basically rape, and it's also the natural form of sex. So, period, stop. Anyone who gets a call from Mike Cernovich who says, oh, I have a scoop for you. I'm really outraged about rape or pedophilia. The correct answer is, no thank you, hang up, okay? He did Pizza Gate. He does these conspiracies all the time. You're a fool to trust them.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Because even if he gives you the correct tweets, he purposely mangles the context. And he does it on purpose. So any guy who calls me who said that, pretending to be concerned, about rape, the correct answer is immediately hang up. Why are we having a conversation? Because people like Disney, MSNBC and the Sam Cedar situation react and they go, oh my God, Cernovich said something, fire someone. Are you nuts?
Starting point is 00:59:26 This is one of the worst people on earth. More from him. He says, the hotter the sex, the more closely it resembles rape. And he says he does the, he plays a quote, anti-rape game. Oh boy, he says, after abusing a girl, I always immediately send a text and save her reply. By the way, you're not going to be shocked to find out that he, of course, was accused of rape. And then he bragged about how he hired a private investigator to go after the victim so that he could get out of the charge. Okay, never went to court on it, so not convicted.
Starting point is 01:00:06 He was able to successfully intimidate the witness and the victim. Now, onto his strategy, he says that the right way to go is to create compelling spectacle using conflict, use trolling tactics to build his brand. All right, well, we go to those aforementioned trolling tactics. In the case of Pizza Gate, he had gone after John Podesta, and it was his idea that he was running a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor shop, this insanity. How does anyone take this guy's call? How does anyone take him seriously?
Starting point is 01:00:42 Okay, he said, pedophile pedesta won't concede tonight, thought it was Trump who wouldn't concede. Hashtag election night. Now, this is a theme that he returns to over and over again. Then he says, Salon, publish pro pedophilia articles. It is platform for pedophiles. Time to write investors. Why do they fund money losing company? Anyone who disagrees with him is a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Anyone who supports anyone who disagrees with them supports pedophilia. Did Salon write pro pedophilia articles? Of course not. He also accused the BBC of running things that were pro pedophilia. Why? Because he doesn't like the BBC. Then he went after, by the way, conservative publications that didn't agree with him. He says the National Review supports pedophilia.
Starting point is 01:01:29 It doesn't matter. The truth is irrelevant as he's going to explain himself in his second. Then he went after Republican senators that were not sufficiently loyal to Donald Trump, including Ben Sasse of Nebraska. He said, whoa, Ben Sass's pedophile connections keep going deeper. On and on and on. It's the same ammo every single time in the one he used against James Gunn. And why did he do it?
Starting point is 01:01:51 He said, oh, I didn't like that he was criticizing Donald Trump. And they didn't like what the reaction to the actor Mark Duplis when he said he likes Ben Shapiro. They're like, oh yeah, that's it. We're going to destroy you. Okay, well, at least you're clear. Now, Jesse Single had written a piece about him in New York Magazine, and so he struck back against him. I hope you're sitting. Guess what he called him. He says, I'm 100% sure Jesse Single is a sexual predator.
Starting point is 01:02:22 He has all the telltale signs of a date rapist. It goes, it's no end to it. So then, but this is the important part. He then bragged on Twitter that he's doing it on purpose. He wrote, Jesse Single is a sexual predator. I can get that on page one of Google in due time. Now, he knows the single is not. He just wrote a piece about Cernovich that he didn't like. So that's him basically bragging. I can ruin this guy's reputation by lying about him as long as I get it into Google one, page one of Google.
Starting point is 01:02:57 That's what he does. and yet people take attacks from him seriously. Okay, he explains his method. He says, to beat a person, you lower his or her social status. And what's the best way to lower anyone's social status? Just call him a pedophile. Call him a sexual predator. Now, if you happen to support those guys who actually are, who cares.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Why? And if they're not actually sexual predators or pedophiles, who cares? Here's another why? Here's another quote from Cernovich. Quote, logic is pointless. It doesn't have to be logical. It doesn't have to be true. It just has to work.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And companies like Disney keep on helping him by saying, oh my God, I'm so concerned about what Mike Cernovich has found. Let's go fire someone. Okay. Now, the anatomy of a hit job, Vic Berger is a guy who went after him on Twitter. So he decided he was going to go after Vic Berger. So what does he do? Of course, charges of pedophilia, totally unsubstantiated, made out a whole cloth like every single time.
Starting point is 01:04:03 So then Vic Berger says, I'm not a child molester, as anyone would say. And then Sernovich turns that around and goes, the whiner doth protest too much, me thinks. So you accuse him being a child molester. He says, I'm not a child molester. You go, aha, so you must be. But it works for his all right lunatics who sometimes show up with guns. He then goes on and says, as they did in the Pizza Gate situation. He says, life tip for Vic Berger.
Starting point is 01:04:28 When you have to tell people you're not a child molester, you've gone wrong in life. Please get help. Now, wait a minute, you have to constantly tell people that you're not a rapist, Mike Cernovich, because you've been accused of rape and you have at least half a dozen quotes where you celebrate rape. You want to explore your life choices. And in this case, you made up that charge against them. You made them deny, and after you denied it, you go, examine your life choices, I got you. And then, of course, on the Vic Berger situation, he says, there is an active pedophile ring being run on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Yes, I heard you and got your tips, Department of Justice, et cetera, under Trump have been alerted. And by the way, these guys are brown shirts. So if you think that the Department of Justice under Trump won't one day act on these so-called tips, you might want to think again. These are scary times with these monsters that go around and have access to power. So now, another part of the ammo is if you dare support anyone he has falsely accused, he will lump you in with them. So it has a tweet with a whole bunch of perfectly innocent people who are decent human beings. And he writes, these are quote unquote mainstream people.
Starting point is 01:05:45 All of them came to the defense of an admitted pedophile. And so don't you dare ever defend anyone I have attacked. Otherwise, I will say that you came to the defense of a pedophile, and I will smear you and try to get that on page one of Google, and I'll do my tactics against you. Now, does he know any people who might support pedophilia? Actually, Milo Yanopoulos lost everything because on Joe Rogan's podcast, he seemed to turn a blind eye to pedophilia. So what does Sternovich have to say against him?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Is he going to be tough against Milo? Instead, he says this. Sernovich calls Yonopoulos one of the only guys other than me who's doing social media right. The only guy who actually was involved in a pedophilia scandal. Like Cernovich is like, that guy's got it totally right. The ones I falsely accused, how dare you? Immediately fire them. Finally, back to the issue of whether Cernovich actually cares about sexual assault.
Starting point is 01:06:47 One more quote for you. He said, when is the last time women organize to support a men's rights issue? Stop being, and I got to read it for you because it's what the word did he used. He said, stop being fags. Who cares about breast cancer and rape? Not me. That's Cernovich. Whenever you see an attack against someone, you have to do a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:07:14 because right now, I'm afraid, and especially the media, removes the attack from outside of its context, and then by definition makes it deeply misleading. They have to say, where did the attack come from? Why did it come? And what is the context of it? So, by the way, this happens in politics all the time, not to this degree of, you know, lies and insanity and the cruelty that Sernovich and the other. alt-right guys use. But they'll do oppo research. And then the media will report it.
Starting point is 01:07:49 There's great candidates that will have investigations of them. No investigation ever gets done of their opponent. And then people, especially in the media, will report that one attack. And they'll go, oh my God, look at this one guy who's terrible. Well, how come you didn't investigate the other guys? And who asked you to investigate that guy? Who gave you that information in the first place? And oftentimes, it is opposition research from other campaigns. But the media never tells you that. By the way, not only Republicans, but Democrats do that as well. And they most especially do it against progressives. So I'm asking you as the audience whenever you see something like this. And if you're in the media business, for God's sake, write the context.
Starting point is 01:08:27 That's supposed to be your job. Where did the attack come from? And this came, it clearly came from the all right. Why do they do it? Not because they're actually concerned about any of the issues that James Gunn joked about. It's because they think that this is the number of way to smear him and to get him fired. And the context is not that, hey, is James Gunn's tweets from 9, 10, some 14 years ago, a big problem as to what he actually believes? No, I mean, look, the Sam Cedar case was the perfect case. Sam Cedar went after a pedophile. He went after Roman Polanski, but he joked about it in how he went after Roman Polanski. Cernovich pretended that Sam Cedar was not joking and that was supporting Polanski,
Starting point is 01:09:14 the exact opposite of what Sam Cedar was saying. So MSNBC fired Sam Cedar. Why? Because corporations panic. Oh my God, somebody attacked and they fired him. And later we all fought back. And for that, by the way, I was also attacked. Also totally out of context. And I'm going to say one last thing about that in a second. But we did defend him, and we're defending James Gunn right now because it is our job to give you that context. And I want you in the audience to understand that context.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And so one last part of the context is when they go to old tweets and they twist them, or even if they don't twist them, it's because they got nothing else. So they went after Sam Cedar and twisted a tweet that he wrote to mean the opposite because You think they didn't try to go after Sam Cedar in a hundred other ways? They did. But apparently, Sam, bless his heart, leads a really boring life. And so, look, you could get almost anybody on anything. And all they had on Sam was a twisted tweet.
Starting point is 01:10:13 That's it. Nothing. For us, they're like, oh, we're going to get these guys in the Me Too woman. They call every woman at the Young Turks, right? They get nothing. They look at all of our stuff. And, man, we have tens of thousands of videos. They get nothing.
Starting point is 01:10:27 So what do they do? Oh, I got an idea. Remember when Jenk was a Republican? He was a prick like us. So let's go see if he said things that were bad back in the day. So they went and found things from decades ago. And things that I had deleted over 10 years ago. Why? Not when I got caught, but when I looked at him, I'm like, oh, that's not me. And I deleted him, right? They're like, oh, we found them from the way back machine and et cetera. You know what that means, guys? And look, It's easy for me to say because it's about me. But you can say it about any of these guys. They went to that because they couldn't get anything else.
Starting point is 01:11:05 So when you see a charge, it isn't about me or Sam or even James Gunn. When you see the next charge, understand that these guys went and tried to get them on everything. And they couldn't. And all they could find in the case of James Gunn was really old tweets. That doesn't mean that he did any of those things. Actually, ironically, it means he didn't. Young Turks. Thanks for watching what I hope was a lovely edition of the Young Turks.
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