The Young Turks - Scary Clowns

Episode Date: June 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:59 We're going to be able to be able to be. Thank you. Drop it. Power, power panel, Junk Yugar, John Otterola, Michael Shore with you guys. It's an old school power panel with a new twist. Michael's running for Congress. He's one of two congressional candidates on the show today. In the second hour, we're going to have Amy Vilella running in to represent a city where I would love to tell you what happens, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Whatever happens there stays there. So if you had L.A. and she had Vegas, that would be a hell of a thing. That would be great. So, all right, surefor congress.com. I'm not saying anything except for the words that I've just spoken. Okay, speaking of words battering, that's going to relate to the first story that John's got. And then a shocking turn of us, I don't want you to go anywhere without realizing. And it's going to be relatively soon in this hour.
Starting point is 00:03:07 There's a Democrat who actually stood up for us. Is it Michael? Okay, I mean, other than Michael, he's a candidate. He's a candidate. Not there yet. But it actually, that guy is related to Michael, in a sense, not related in terms of family. But you'll see, you'll see all of that as we proceed forward. Don't worry, you haven't spoiled it, because I don't even know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Even better, wait, what the hell? Anyway, before we get it, the 20 year thing is unbelievable. We've been on the air this long. More unbelievable to me is that you find a different way every Friday to drop it. I can't get over it. Each time I'm wondering which one is you get it, but it's always a new one. It's nuanced, but it's amazing. Someone's got to string those together.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Now that is a common one I have never received before, and I'm deep, I deeply appreciate. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the comments are every Friday, super repetitive and predictable, but the dropping different every time. Anyway, there, I just dropped it and it's the mic. Oh, what are you, my 11 year old son with the sick burns? Is he burning you already?
Starting point is 00:04:15 Oh, are you kidding me? I want to see it. It's a fire clinic in there. Okay, well, with that, let's get serious, everyone. We've got some scary info for you. We're gradually learning more and more about what happened, not only on January 6th, but in the immediate run up to it. Here is a fun little tidbit. A day before the actual riot, the chief of staff for Mike Pence, former vice president, apparently had a warning for the head of Mike Pence's secret service.
Starting point is 00:04:45 They already predicted at that point that Donald Trump might turn on him and that that might be a big deal. The chief of staff at that point was Mark Short had a message for the agent Tim Goebbels who said to him the president was going to turn publicly against the vice president and that could present a security risk to Mike Pence. Short didn't know what form the security risk might take. I don't think anybody predicted exactly what would happen that next day, but after days of intensifying pressure from Trump on Pence to take the extraordinary step of intervening in the certification of the electoral college count to forestall Trump's defeat, Short seemed to have good reason for concern. And of course, if you've been watching this for us for a while or paying attention to American politics, you know what ended up happening. That warning turned out to be a good thing to have done because the situation turned incredibly chaotic. And we want to show you a little bit of how things went down. So, yeah, they thought that Trump might turn it. He might press. He might press.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So yeah, they thought that Trump might turn him. He did, that it might present a security risk. It was, they had to get the vice president out of there. And I know that we already knew that it happened. I don't know how much scarier the warning is, but the entire thing is just so, it's incomprehensible that we got to this point. Yeah, but it's even more incomprehensible that we haven't gotten out of that point yet. So let's just break this down real quick.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Look, guys, we know that they were trying to murder Mike Pence. How do we know? Well, you just saw it, heard it with your own ears. They were chanting, hang Mike Pence, as in murder the vice president of the United States as they broke into the Capitol trying to find him. And by the way, we also know that they were within one to two minutes of catching out with him. They had gone in the same direction that he was in and Secret Service barely got him out of there. Maybe by the way, Secret Service barely got him out of there because they got the warning from his own office a day ago. hey, be careful, our own president might try to get his vice president murdered in America.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And Donald Trump, if the election were held today, would win the presidency. What is going on, America? What's wrong with you? I mean, this is plain as day. Even his own vice president, the day before, his chief of staff tells the secret service, remember the president's a maniac and might try to harm physically harm his own vice president and everybody takes it as oh that's totally normal it's not totally normal that's insane could you imagine if Biden's office chief of staff talked to the secret service back in 2016 and
Starting point is 00:07:30 said oh by the way we're leaving office now remember Barack Obama might try to murder me so can you please protect me against Barack Obama. That would have been the biggest story in American history, literally of my lifetime, political story of my lifetime. Trump does it. There was like, oh yeah, everybody knows Trump's a murderer and encourages his own vice president to be killed. That's normal.
Starting point is 00:07:50 It's not normal. The guy's a goddamn lunatic. So I'm asking the Republicans, which is, I know it's absolutely impossible, for God's sake, snap out of it, or is this who you are? Do you like that Trump did that and that they, almost killed Pence. Do you like that? Because by supporting Trump, you're saying, yeah, I kind of love that. I think some like that. Well, yeah, they must have, they must like it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I mean, they nominated him and then they re-nominated him after they knew as much as they did about him, even not this. You didn't have to know this to know the guy was absolutely nuts. You knew it in 2015 too. But this goes to exactly what the problem in the Republican Party is, is this this addiction to power and the only person they see is being able to hold or wield power is that lunatic. And, you know, going to the nuts and bolts of this. And we used to talk about how, you know, how spineless and soulless Mike Pence was and how he should have stood up to Donald Trump and he was weak and he was afraid. He might be the bravest vice president ever for knowing what was about to happen, what could happen, and still walking over to the Capitol
Starting point is 00:08:58 to preside over that, and I'm being a little tongue in cheek on that. But if you think about it in those terms, it's not really terribly tongue-in-cheek. No, but it's not, though, because so look, I can't stand Mike Pants politically, and I don't think it's that big a deal. It's the lowest bar ever to go and do a ceremonial role. As I said this analogy before, Trump was basically asking the guy who's throwing out the opening pitch in a baseball game to win the game. But he's not in the game.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It's a ceremonial opening pitch, right? And he's like, I don't care. Just pretend that that was the game and steal the game for me, right? And Pence was like, no, I'm not going to destroy American democracy. But you have to give credit where credit is due. He knew that he might be in very serious physical danger because he knows his own president was a lunatic. Now I'll take credit away from Mike Pence. So he's tweaked Trump since then, just once or twice.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Why don't you come out and say, hey, I knew ahead of time this lunatic was going to try to get me killed. Can you please stop supporting this lunatic who nearly had me murdered? Is that too much to ask for? And in the Republican Party, by the way, the answer is a resounding yes. That is too much to ask for because the Republican voters will not turn on Trump. They will turn on Pence. And they will say, how dare you? You should have just been a good boy, a good soldier, and just taking your mom.
Starting point is 00:10:27 murder that we were planning for you. When he drops out after Iowa in 2004, then we'll hear something I would imagine from Mike. Wow. Well, because until then, he knows that he could, like, he could come out and do a press conference and play audio of him talking with Trump. And Trump could threaten to have him killed on the audio and the base would side with Trump. They just would. It's like, I don't feel as sorry for Pence because of as you guys have pointed out, he's absolutely horrible and he has been for decades.
Starting point is 00:11:16 But it's, it's the similar sort of position of like, if you were an actress that Harvey Weinstein abused, you know, years before me too. Sure, you can come forward and try to convince people, but lots of powerful people are going to side with the abuser. It's not that they don't know what's going on. It's that they don't care what's going on. And they'd really prefer that you not bring it up. And so it's horrible for Pence that that's the state of his party. And it's a little bit, again, solace of him that he seems to be okay enough with that to go along with it if that's what it takes for him to potentially hold some sort of elected office in the future. that he isn't speaking out about it, even though it would torch his career.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And then we test what matters, right? Sometimes we're in the era now where we think nothing matters. And nothing has proven itself to matter. The January 6th commission is going to be out with public hearings next week. Well, anything that they will do that convinces all of us and we don't need too much convincing, will it convince anybody else or does nothing matter? We're going to hear horrific things about what was perpetrated against our government, what was attempted to be perpetrated against our government.
Starting point is 00:12:18 and the we're in the era of nothing matters. And I think Donald Trump is the personification of that. Yeah, so look, to that point, I'll say the last thing here, it's, of course nothing matters. If Pence turned on Trump, it wouldn't matter to a single Trump voter. And like I said, they would be probably more animated to kill him. And so we all know that. But I'm asking you Republican voters, because you're the core of the problem.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Trump wouldn't be around unless you love that type of call the violence. attack against democracy, you guys live for it. So I'm asking you guys, what's wrong with you? Because I think Bernie Sanders is a terrific human being. He's a wonderful politician. He's tried his best. If he threatened to murder AOC, I wouldn't still be on his side. I would think that's the craziest thing I have ever heard.
Starting point is 00:13:09 What's the content? All of his good work for 40 years, that's funny. All of his good work for 40 years flush down the toilet because he turned into a lunate to get the end, right? But you guys don't see it that way. You think, matter boy, that's a strong man, doesn't care about the laws, doesn't care about the life of his vice president. Go get him, Donald Trump. You know you think that, because not a single one of you is going to turn based on this evidence. Yeah, like I'm tempted to play like the Louis Gomer. Like, how dare you, Jake, say that we don't have a heart, that we don't care. They want to
Starting point is 00:13:42 kill Mike Pence. Well, you don't. You don't care. How many Republicans, like we've been through, I don't know how many evolutions of this story, where we find out a little bit more about how crazy it is. I'll remind you that it wasn't that many weeks, maybe a month ago, that we had an insider account of Trump in real time reacting on the six to the threats against Pence, and he seemed to be delighting with it. And we know that he responded to some of the people telling him to call off the mob by saying, you don't understand how angry they are. Like, he seemed to be on the side of the murderous crowd. But again, none of these developments have led to tons of Republicans coming out and saying that this is obviously beyond some line,
Starting point is 00:14:21 some final line for the party, because every one of them is making an ever-evolving calculus of what do they need to stay, say to stay in a position where the base will accept them. Because there's always somebody who is willing to be crazier than them, who would gladly primary them. In fact, today, Representative Chris Jacobs dropped out of his race because he said he He was in favor of mild gun control after the Buffalo shootings, he's a representative from New York. Every single Republican official unendorsed him, abandoned him, and said, how dare you? Raise the age that somebody can get an assault weapon from 18 to 21?
Starting point is 00:15:03 Outrageous, I'm not joking or exaggerating 1%. And he said, I give up, there's no hope in this Republican Party. I did the mildest gun control possible. I said, yeah, maybe we should do that. And I lost every endorsement. There's no way I can win now. The core of the problem, and mainstream media will never tell you this. The core of the problem is the Republican voters themselves.
Starting point is 00:15:25 And so that is the spiriting, but that is the state of the country. And then people then ask me, on Twitter, they say, I hit Republicans too hard. Poor, poor Republicans, okay? Well, look, what do you want me to do? And if you're like, people I know in my personal life, if you're still a Trump supporter, You're kind of telling me you're a monster. Like you didn't mind him doing all a thousand insane things. And by the way, saying that I should have been, my family should have been kept out of the country.
Starting point is 00:15:53 And you don't mind that at all. There's something weird and terrible and hateful about you. And then on top of that now, you all know that he wanted to have his own vice president killed. And you still don't care. You still support him. No, then don't tell me you're not a monster. You're a heredite too. Yeah, because you are a monster.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Yeah. And meanwhile, you point out all those things that should. be lines that nobody would cross in support of a politician. Meanwhile, following Biden's gun speech, a commentator on Fox News said that speech was itself an impeachable offense. It's for in fantasy land, we're in bizarre world. Anyway, with that said, we have a lot more to get to. We do have to take our first break, but stick around on the other side.
Starting point is 00:16:33 We're gonna talk a little bit more about guns and the blow up that happened at a hearing over them after this. All right, back on TYT, Jank, John Michael, Raymond Footman and Juniper Pire Dust. How's that for an awesome name? Jesus. All right, they just hit the join button below on YouTube. Today's a good day to deal. We're giving away $100 gift cards to blue apron to 200 members.
Starting point is 00:17:13 tonight. And if you're not on YouTube, t.com slash join. All right, John, what's next? Okay, this is what's next. There are hearings going on in Congress right now over the possibility of passing some sort of gun control and they've already gotten heated. Take a look at this interaction that Representative Matt Gates had. They think that the answer is fewer guns. And that is what is creating a lot of discomfort among our fellow Americans who cherish their guns and cherish their Second Amendment rights and have actually committed. Do they cherish their children, Mr. Gates? You know what? Their children aren't the ones at risk as a consequence of law-abiding gun owners.
Starting point is 00:17:50 All children in America are at risk. What's what you get wrong? It's not law-abiding gun owners, David. Were those children in Yuvaldi law-pullab at risk? So here's the tension. McGee is obviously objectively wrong. Everyone's children are at risk because guns are everywhere. It doesn't matter if your parent happens to be law abiding.
Starting point is 00:18:08 The law is set up in a way that might benefit them, but it also benefits potential mass shooters. And Matt Gates can try to like poo-poo that or act all aggrieved when someone points it out. But it is true. And Matt Gates there, like basically all of the Republicans, is there at these hearings to try to stop anything from happening. The status quo that results in mass shootings literally every day in the U.S. is a status quo that they will fight to defend. And we've got more commentary from Matt Gates, but I want to give you a chance to jump in on that. Just real quick on this, you know that it's a nonsense argument because just take out guns put in nukes.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Hey, look, it's not, you know, we gave everybody nukes or we allowed everybody to buy nukes. And yeah, a whole bunch of it went off and hundreds of millions of people died. But it wasn't the gun abiding nuke owners that did it. So obviously everybody should have nukes because the gun abiding ones are perfectly good. End of argument. Yeah. Yeah, look, there's not much that you can say about Matt Gates that Matt Gates doesn't already say. And watching it and hearing him speaks bigger volumes than I could ever.
Starting point is 00:19:11 say about the fool. Yeah, it's just it's such a weird choice to use the word cherished in this particular. Like we're just we're in the wake of all of the kid funerals and you're talking about cherishing your shotgun or your rifle or whatever. Like that's a choice at that point. It's a choice. Okay, I want to play a little bit more of what he had to say. And in this video he's going to get into two different topics. I think both we need to weigh on them. One is an area where he would like to see more guns and the other is him inadvertently making an absolutely horrible argument against gun control. I sort of like Congressman Massey's legislation that maybe everyone who's a voter or on their
Starting point is 00:19:48 way to vote ought to have the opportunity to carry a firearm to ensure that they're not subject to any intimidation. We're not making school shootings less likely because we're not appropriately tailoring the remedy to the problem. We've got this ghost guns and gun tracking legislation up today. Were any of these school shootings, were any of these guns, ghost guns? And so it seems to be sort of gun control in search of a tragedy to lash on to. Okay, so the idea that the way to fight back against intimidation of voters is to have more
Starting point is 00:20:20 assault weapons at the polls is an interesting theory, but I really love that second bit. Because what he said is it doesn't make sense to regulate ghost guns because all of these shootings aren't being done by ghost guns. And then mentally, he sort of just trails off from there, but I have to then say, well, So then shouldn't we regulate the sort of guns that are being used in the shooting? They're not ghost guns. That's totally true. Most 18-year-old school shooters don't go out and get ghost guns.
Starting point is 00:20:46 But a lot of them do go out and get AR-15s. So by your attempt at logic, shouldn't that be the thing that we're discussing possibly regulating? I'm feeling it's not going to be in favor of it. Yeah, there's two different issues here. One is related to intimidation of Democratic voters. We covered this in a different context yesterday. There was a memo that was leaked to Politico where in Michigan, the Republican Party is training people to become poll workers in Democratic areas and then to challenge as many votes as possible to gum up the works and basically cheat. And until recently, the Republican Party could not coordinate with poll workers because they had in the past used them to intimidate Democratic voters.
Starting point is 00:21:33 They would literally send in people with guns to Democratic areas to intimidate them. The Supreme Court blocked the Republican Party from doing this all the way to 2020. Then the new conservative Supreme Court's like, oh, intimidate anyone you like, block any votes you like in the Democratic areas. Now Matt Gates and Congress in the midst of a gun control hearing says, hey, maybe we should bring our guns to the polling stations maybe in Democratic areas. So that's a brown shirt move. That is how fascists intimidate the opposition. Maybe there could be significant consequences for you if you vote, et cetera. So in search of a problem that he talked about later,
Starting point is 00:22:12 is there a problem of Democrats bringing guns to Republican areas and threatening them? No, even the Republicans haven't made up a charge like that. It's literally never happened, okay? So he's saying, I'll bring the guns. So why just survive back to school when you can thrive by creating a space that does it all for you, no matter the size. Whether you're taking over your parents' basement or moving to campus, IKEA has hundreds of design ideas and affordable options to complement any budget.
Starting point is 00:22:43 After all, you're in your small space era. It's time to own it. Shop now at IKEA.ca. We don't get intimidated, okay? And so, but now back to the main issue of guns, so there's no question that we have the least gun control on the planet, that's a fact, there's no question that we have the most guns per capita on the planet, that's a fact, and it's not even close. And there's no question that we have the most massacres, mass shootings, and gun deaths on the planet, not close, right? So is it the guns? Yes, it is definitively the guns. Everything else is an excuse, okay? Oh, well, and Matt, that same Matt Gates said, oh, no, no, you can use AR-15s for different things.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Like sports shooting, oh, are you having fun while our kids are being murdered? And self-defense, really? You're going to shoot an AR-15 inside your own house and maybe hit your own kids? Because it's, there's no way Matt Gates knows how to control that gun or where the hell he's shooting in a situation like that. And then finally, just to rub it in like, ha-ha, I'm kidding, I actually enjoy these massacres. He said also for hog shooting. Like, in other words, we're messing with you. We don't care about the massacres of your children at all.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And by the way, these AR-15s leave these children, not to be graphic, unrecognizable. They're shot so badly that you need a DNA to identify these kids in Evaldi. So this is beyond just, oh, a feral pig's going to come into my yard. These are killing kids to the point of not being able to be ready. not knowing who they were. It's the most tragic and disgusting thing. And we're just allowing it to go on. And to Matt Gates, ghost guns are used in shootings all the time. They've been killing kids this year, all year long. They are a big part of teen suicide, which may not be a massacre, Congressman Gates, but they are part of what is going on with guns and easy access
Starting point is 00:24:42 to them. And so it all does matter. Yeah. Well, we seem to all agree that they don't seem to care enough about stopping this violence. And that sort of criticism has been coming at the Republicans, you know, since Yvaldi, since before Yovaldi, we have shoot. We've had many mass shootings even since then. It's constant. And they appear to be starting to feel the pressure from that. Take a look at Representative Louis Gomer responding to these criticisms. You think we don't have hearts? It's just that when we look at the things that you're doing and you're trying to do to America, we've seen the carnage. I mean, for heaven's sake, let's take example.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Democrats control the major cities that have the worst murder rates. That's right. Your ideas have been shown to get people killed. So that's not even literally true. That's not actually how it works out at the city level. Even if it was, you would then still have to explain what is it that you think Louis Gomer, those Democratic mayors or city councils, are doing that's leading to the deaths. Now in these Democratic cities, he would say they have gun control.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Okay, well then make a logical argument as to why that results in more gun-based murder. We will actually explain why, making it so that 18 year olds can buy ARs does lead to more 18 year olds using ARs to kill people. So we have demonstrated that linkage. He is in, to the limited capacity that he has mentally to form a counter argument, he's doing his best, but clearly they get that the country is turning against them and sees who is standing in the path, in the way of some sort of reform and who is trying to stop these shootings from actually happening again.
Starting point is 00:26:35 So Democratic politician in Philadelphia said, actually we're trying to pass gun control, but the Republicans in the state legislature won't let us. So it's literally your fault. So, but beyond that, he says, are we, do you think we're heartless? My resounding answer is yes, definitely. I don't think you care about those dead kids at all, not 1%. I don't come crying to me about Republicans' feelings. Okay, I care a lot more about those dead kids in Yuvaldi, Texas, and by the way, in Sandy Hook,
Starting point is 00:27:07 and everywhere else, everywhere else. I care about all the dead people because of Republicans. I don't care about your goddamn crying. Okay, Republicans don't want any gun control. Lack of gun control is definitely leading to the mass shootings. Every person who has ever studied it, every fact points to that. It's super obvious. We have the same video games, the same mental health problems
Starting point is 00:27:32 as Japan does, Northern Europe does, everywhere else in the world does. Sub-Saharan Africa does. But they don't have massacres like we do. like we do. Yes, nowhere else in the world are there massacres like this. And yes, it's definitely because of the Republicans. And yes, people like Louis Gomer are 100% artless and don't mind your kids dying at all as long as they get to brag to their vicious Republican voters. Don't worry, I didn't let them take their hobby away. They're sick. That's you, Louis Gomerin.
Starting point is 00:28:07 You're a sick, sick man. Stop butchering our kids. Am I clear enough? Alright, let's go to Swalwell, because Swalwell was actually, and for the first time, honestly, in my life, a Democrat in politics actually stood up for us. Let's go to his clip. 19 children are dead, and so to my Republican colleagues, I ask, who are you here for?
Starting point is 00:28:34 Are you here for our kids? Or are you here for the killers? And Mr. Jordan, to say we are trying to dramatically change the country, dramatically change the country. If trying to make sure that no more kids are put in the ground with a Superman coffin means dramatically change the country, guilty. That's why we're here. You should watch the whole five minute speech that Swalwell did. It was fantastic. And I'm not playing around. I haven't seen any like a person in the squad or Bernie or anyone give as tough as speech as Swalwell did.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And all the Republicans caught feelings over. I can't believe he's telling the truth. You're not Democrats aren't supposed to fight back. They were furious that for the first time in our lifetimes, a Democrat had actually fought back against Republicans. Yes, stop trying to hit him. And God damn it, hit him already. So thank you, Eric Swalwell.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Thank you. We appreciate it. By the way, just super random note, Swelwell has endorsed Michael Schor. Yeah. So God bless. My biggest congressional endorsement means a world to me because my campaign is being based a lot on gun control. I'm pushing back on the rights that they're trying to mess with on the other side. Not just the rights that they're trying to take back, but the rights that they're trying to protect that are killing our kids.
Starting point is 00:29:54 So I couldn't be more proud of having that endorsement. That's awesome. And the only thing I'll add to in terms of who they're there for, like, so we know that they're standing in the way of gun control. Let's also remember how they treat people who either have done or threaten to do gun violence. Like George Zimmerman became a little celebrity on their side. Kyle Rittenhouse is still making appearances. I saw that he was speaking at real America's voice had live coverage of him at the Republican young women's leadership conference. Kyle Rittenhouse, they only know who he is because he killed people with a gun and they love him.
Starting point is 00:30:29 What about those those wackos that stood outside of their house and pointed assault weapons at peaceful protesters? they love people who commit acts of gun violence and they want those people to run for office in Missouri and they did I they did I don't think they did it too well but yeah they got invited to the Republican National they did exactly they were at the R&C yeah they got invited to the convention the Bundys are heroes it's I mean you kill somebody with a gun and you're going to be a Republican hero you're going to make money for the rest of your life on vicious right wingers going oh you killed somebody oh you went to a Black Lives Matter protest to kill someone And oh boy, here's money.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I'll pay you next time. Remember, if you kill someone I don't agree with, I'll pay you next time. That's what the right wing voters think. So they're vicious. Thank you, Eric Swalwell, for being the first person to fight back courageously. We'll put the link down below to his entire speech because his speech was vicious towards Republicans. And I say, goddamn time, about time that someone who's an actual Democratic congressperson said, yes, those are the bad guys. And said it very clearly.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I'll interrupt to say, Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut has also said it on the other side and the Senate side in many ways. And it's been a great voice on this issue for a long time. Obviously, he's a senator from Connecticut where they had, you know, the thing that we thought could never happen again until a couple of weeks ago. And just to make sure that you're ready for what's going to happen next week. I mean, it was already these hearings were super emotional, people were yelling at each other. Well, we found out earlier today that next week, survivors and parents of the shootings in Uvaldi and Buffalo will be testifying at the hearing. So you can only imagine what it's going to be like, including by the way, they're going
Starting point is 00:32:09 to have testimony from Mia Serio, a fourth grade student at Rob Elementary. A lot of people know her story. She was the student who had to cover herself in her friend's blood and play dead to not be killed herself. She will be giving testimony at the hearing. So I hope that the Democrats are just as fired up when it. comes to to next week. Okay, with that said, we want to get into one more topic or I'll take a second break early?
Starting point is 00:32:34 All right, no, let's do the next one, I guess. Okay, let's jump into this then. Even more text messages have been released that would have been flying back and forth on the Republican side on January 6th. And there really was an attempt by many of these people who since then have implied that everything that was happening was totally fine. In fact, it was patriotic. At the time, they really did want to stop it. So you have Tom Price, who was former President Trump's Secretary of Health and Human Services, apparently texting Mark Meadows. POTUS should go on air and defuse this extremely important.
Starting point is 00:33:25 I'm glad that he emphasized that. Representative Jeff Duncan, also messaging Meadows, now we know said. POTUS needs to calm this S down. Representative Chip Roy says, fix this now. And of course, you can't fix a problem unless you have some influence over it. They're all admitting that clearly this is a guy you will have control over these people, which is not what you would think if you were actually convinced that they were all in Tifa. They're not going to listen to the president if their left-wing provocateurs.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Anyway, Mick Mulvaney said, Mark, he needs to stop this now. Can I do anything to help? I don't know, maybe along the way at some point during that first term, you could have done something to help. But instead, we ended up at January 6th. And Reince Prebis, in all caps, tweeted, or texted, Tell them to go home. Even Don Jr.
Starting point is 00:34:19 texted, he's got to condemn this S. Now, some of the others might have been able to get through, that was just Don Jr. Trump's not going to listen to him, but everybody was trying to get through on that day. All right, so this is beyond the text because CNN has a couple of new things here. First of all, they interviewed more than a dozen of the textors themselves, and they said every one of them, that doesn't mean every one of the textors, it means every one of the ones that they reached. So I don't imagine they got to Don Jr., but I don't know. But potentially guys like Mick Mulvaney and Ryan's previous, two former chiefs staff to Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:34:58 More than a dozen of them confirmed, yet those are my texts, and I meant it. Yeah. Okay, so that is top, top officials in the Trump administration saying, yeah, we knew Trump's basically a maniac. And on top of this is really important, we knew he could stop it. And we knew he was choosing not to stop it. And he waited for hours and hours and hours. And in fact, if you remember when Kevin McCarthy called him, also reported by another Republican, this is 100% confirmed, Trump apparently told McCarthy, hey, those protesters apparently like,
Starting point is 00:35:36 you know, care more about my administration, care more about the country, then you do, Kevin. In other words, I'm happy that they broke into the house and that you're afraid for your life. And earlier today, we carried the story of Vice President Pence's chief of staff asking the secret service on January 5th, the day before. We think the president might put us in physical danger. Can you protect us from the president? So they all know, they all know what a monster Donald Trump is. The problem is, as always, the Republican voters don't like him despite that. They like them because of that.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And so whenever this goes to the voters, they go, What part of vicious, lying, pathological, narcissists, hateful and violent leader, did you misunderstand? We voted for it many, many, many times. We're still backing him 100%. So every vicious thing that you see that Trump did and that the Republicans knew, the Republican voters are perfectly okay with. Yeah, and the other part of it is, you know, again, going back to what they're going to do next week at these hearings on the January 6th when they have open hearings is, is this stuff, this stuff's going to be there, right? All of it's going to be there, all these texts that were sent to Mark Meadows. And it mattered to those people when they didn't know it was going to be public.
Starting point is 00:36:59 So it has to try and matter to some of these people when it is public, who can stand up and see a former president and what he didn't do that day if you thought he should have done it. then admit that it should have happened and admit what was going on. Like Johnny said, if it was Antifa, right? They wouldn't have gone to this president to stop it. They knew it wasn't. And that's what has to come. These hearings have to matter. And this stuff is what needs to make them matter more than any of it.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah, and I don't know if the people who seen and reached out to who Jenk referenced. I don't know if they're going to be speaking at or whatever. But they've been willing to go on the record. You know, Alyssa Farah Griffin, the former Trump director of strategic communication, said I thought the president could stop it and was the only person. who could stop it, saying that they would have listened to him on the inside. And Mick Mulvaney said, I wish someone had responded to my outreach. And we have to be super clear, the delay in him coming out and saying it didn't just produce
Starting point is 00:37:54 a couple more hours of, hey, it's chaotic. There's people and a lectern got moved. People died, lots of cops, 114 cops were injured, seven people lost their lives. Some cops committed suicide in the wake of it, perhaps if it hadn't gone on for hours. Some of them might not have. I don't know that they're that focused on the woman who was shot anymore on the right. At one point they had been raising her up as kind of like a martyr to the MAGA movement or whatever. But if he had immediately told them all to leave, would she have died?
Starting point is 00:38:26 Would she have been shot? She thought she was working for him. The 850 people have been charged with crimes who are going to spend time in prison might lose their jobs. Those are all devoted MAGA people. Would those horrible things have happened to them? Do the derailing of their life if Trump had just been clear from the very beginning that they shouldn't be there? He screwed over all of those people. People died because he didn't act.
Starting point is 00:38:50 People who love him and trust him died because he refused to say anything. And by the way, he was hoping that they would be even more scared for their lives. So they would go back in and redo the election basically and not certify it. That's why he waited all that time. And so one of the rioters was overheard once he finally put out the tweet saying you guys are amazing, you're the best people I've ever met, thank you for causing this violence and breaking into the Capitol, etc. But okay, I guess you should go home. And one of the writers was overheard after the tweet goes, oh, he's telling us to go home, let's go. So of course they were waiting. Who did they do it for? Like, Elmer Fudd? No, they did it for Donald Trump, obviously, right? And he's, and they're in there. They're chanting hang Mike Pence, Mike Pence nearly gets killed. No word, no word, no word, because you know what a monster he is. And again, last thing, all those guys who were not just worried about the safety and well-being
Starting point is 00:39:53 of, certainly of the Democrats, but of their own Republican colleagues, that was part of their concern. But their bigger concern, and we're being honest about these generally scummy politicians, is that they were worried he was going to hurt the Republican Party. Yeah, but you know what? Unfortunately, they were wrong. Trump was right. It didn't hurt the Republicans at all. If the election were held today, Trump would beat Biden. The Republican base loved the violence. They haven't backed off of Trump at all, not one percent. They would all vote for him instantly today. And since the Democrats are so weak, right now in the polls, Biden's losing badly. And so that monster could be back in office, and he ain't ever leaving if he gets back in office.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Okay, well, with that, we're going to take. Maybe it mattered. Sorry, to Georgia Republicans, right? I mean, that was the first inkling what just happened in Georgia in the elections, where Rappensberger, the Secretary of State won re-election as a put, you know, in the face of Trump's criticism. And Brian Kemp, whatever we may think of him, the fact that we're rooting for Kemp now is unbelievable. fact that he won re-election against a Trump endorsed, that could be a breath of hope. Yeah, don't know. No, no, I'm a breath is not, you need a lot of breath. Yeah, and Rapsenberger, maybe, because that was so obvious and there wasn't that huge Democratic opponent there, but Kemp, they mainly seem to have voted for him because they
Starting point is 00:41:21 were worried that Purdue was going to lose the Stacey Abrams. So the Republican voters kind of made a political calculation there, which I'm surprised by. Usually they just slavishly follow whatever the mad king says. But yes, there they didn't. So it's worthy of note. All I'm certain, yeah. 49 states left to go, maybe, maybe. All right, we gotta take a break when we come back.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Good news, somebody actually being held a little bit responsible for what happened on January 6th. We'll be right back. All right, back on TYT, Jack, Michael and John, with you guys. John, take it away. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot to mention our other participants, sorry brother. Anara, Valen, Robert Schaefer, and Sarah Joy, they just joined up. Now you're doing the show with us, we love it, thank you for being paid members, a good day to do it. Food for Throat trivia coming up. We remember away 200 gift cards. There are $100 a gift card
Starting point is 00:42:32 for Blue Apron. You guys are going to love that. All right, and t.t.com slash join to become one of them or hit the join button below on YouTube. Sorry, John, go ahead. I don't remember what I was going to say now. Okay, now I ruined it. I loaded it up into, you know, memory and that's gone. Anyway. Something about blue apron. 200 people. Okay. Former Trump White House advisor, Peter Navarro had been avoiding this subpoena that he was facing to speak to the January 6th Commission. He apparently thought he didn't need to comply with it because this is D.C. He's powerful, well connected.
Starting point is 00:43:05 There are never any consequences. And that is generally true. In this case, though, he got arrested, actually. And here he is speaking out about what happened to him. Instead of coming to my door where I live, which by the way is right next to the FBI, instead of calling me and say, hey, we need you down at court. We've got a warrant for you. I would have gladly come. What did they do? They intercepted me getting on the plane. And then they put me in handcuffs. They bring me here. They put me in leg irons. They stick me in a cell. By the way, just historical note. I was in John Hinckley's cell. They seemed to think that that was like an important historical note. Okay. That's punitive. That, what they did to me today violated the Constitution. Yeah, it was really weird of the FBI to bring that up.
Starting point is 00:43:57 And then a little bit weird for him to bring that. Why did he bring it up in that? Anyway, so that was Peter Navarro, and he was hauled away because as he points out, the FBI was really rude. He would have gladly complied with the subpoena if, wait, he actually just wasn't complying with it. He knew that he had to go in, he refused to, so they went and got him. That's how this is supposed to work, it generally doesn't in D.C.
Starting point is 00:44:22 but this is how it's supposed to work. He knew he was supposed to go in. He chatted with Ari Melvor this week about the fact that he was defying the subpoena. So you can't be that shocked that they finally went and got you. No, that was an amazing piece of video. I loved that. I thought it was just hilarious. Let me translate for you.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Also, Jack, it looks like he's taking whatever Don Jr.'s been taken recently. Yeah, I mean. He's energetic. Energetic. That's a good word. They're all taking some sort of crazy juice, right? So the translation of that video is, I'm one of the elites. I'm above the law.
Starting point is 00:44:57 How dare they enforce the law against me? Well, it turns out, Peter, you ain't above the law. And by the way, don't get me wrong, I'm as shocked as you are. I thought DOJ would never do this. And so, I mean, remember, this is not on the substance. This is just on the contempt because he refuses to testify in front of the Senate. I'm sorry, in front of the house. And that's against the law.
Starting point is 00:45:18 You can't ignore a subpoena. You couldn't do it. And it turns out, hey, Peter DeVarro can't do it. And so now, I think the more important charges are about him participating in basically an insurrection and a coup through what he wrote a book about. The Green Bay Street. And I mean, Ari Melbury made a good point. He's like, you know that you say you don't want to speak to Congress. You know that they can hear you on TV.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And he didn't say this with a soldier. Peter, you wrote a whole book about how you plan to steal the election. So it's not like you're like, oh, I have a moral problem with speaking out on this. I have a principled issue here. No, his principle that he's livid about is I thought I was an elite. How dare you enforce the law against one of the elites in Washington? Yeah, I don't think he wants to have to testify in an area where the lies he's inclined to tell could then have consequences. He wants to have control over it.
Starting point is 00:46:15 He wants to be able to grift off of it, sell his book, but he doesn't want to have to be sworn in or anything like that. Right, well, and that goes to a bigger subject here, which is the Republican Party and their disregard for the law and what they're doing to it over and over and how they've been doing it in disregarding congressional subpoenas, and calls to to cooperate with Congress, calls to provide information to Congress, calls to provide tax return information as a candidate, all things that. are legally required stock act well again that's what i'm saying this is the nothing else matters part and they weave this in as if that is some kind of a joke some arcane old america they want make america great again that's what we had when america was great before he took office so honestly this is the scariest part of all of it and he is part of the of that web that they're weaving peter navarro has been there for a lot of it and he was there spewing the the lies and the misinformation from
Starting point is 00:47:15 that white house and we're seeing it happen now where he is indignant about being arrested for breaking the law yeah yeah and look more good news regarding Navarro so on the actual substantive charges of him you know basically planning an insurrection the grand jury is sitting on that issue now it's been impaneled and they might arrest them on the substance yeah so that hasn't happened yet and And it's not clear if he's the target or a witness, but if he's not the target, then Trump might be the target. And so I'm shocked to see the DOJ acting, absolutely floored by it. I thought there was almost no chance that Merrick Garland would take any action. On contempt, I thought there was a good chance they would do something, and that's what this is.
Starting point is 00:48:03 But the fact that they've impaneled a grand jury to look into the substance of the January 6th when it comes to not to what they would consider the riffraff, the masses, yes, of course, they'll beat the living crap out of them, right? The ones that actually broke in. But the elites, Navarro, Trump, et cetera, wow. Okay, so if that grand jury comes in, that could make a giant difference. No question. It could also get ramped up after the open hearings of the January 6th commission.
Starting point is 00:48:29 If, you know, Garland has said we're letting Congress do their work a lot. And if Congress does their work and what Garland sees is, we have to do our work, then I would imagine. I mean, again, I'm with you on Garland generally. But I would imagine that's what he's waiting for to a degree. Yeah, I hope he doesn't wait too long because they're, no, no, there's going to say he can't wait very long, which is why it's good that it's next week. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:49 One last piece of good news. I know that, look, arresting Trump on this through the grand jury, et cetera, seems like a really long shot. There's no reason why it should be. He definitely did it. They have overwhelming evidence, but Democrats are usually very, very scared to act, right? But if they do arrest them, he almost, I looked at the legal definition of insurrection. He certainly did it. And if you get convicted of insurrection, that is the one of the punishments for that is that you are not allowed to run for office again.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So for God's sake, take action. Yeah, we have to have this last video, though, because there are those in the Republican Party who are good at hiding what they think about how the system should work and what you should be able to get away with. Louis Gohmert just isn't it? He doesn't have the gray matter for it. And so he just blurts out what he's really thinking. Take a look at this. It actually puts an exclamation point on the fact that we have a two-tier justice system. If you're a Republican, you can't even lie to Congress or lie to an FBI agent or they're coming after you. They're going to bury you. They're going to put you in the D.C. jail and terrorize and torture you and not live up to the Constitution there. However, this comes on the heels of Sussman being acquitted because the jury that had a bunch of Hillary Clinton lovers in it, donors even, they said, look, you know, he's a Democrat and of course they're going to lie. Everybody lies.
Starting point is 00:50:28 How about that jury for a person? No big deal to lie to the FBI, huh? Exactly. I know we're going to focus on the first part, but he's saying at the end that the guy he's talking about should have been arrested for lying, but he doesn't think that Navarro should have been? Like, shouldn't you have one standard? I know, I sound like. What have we come to? What have we come to? No, that was, of course, hilarious, right? I mean, leave it to Gomer to to be like, now we can't even lie to the FBI anymore. I mean, that's what we've been doing our whole lives. We can't lie to Congress and what the hell we're going to do? Okay, why don't I come to Congress
Starting point is 00:50:59 for anyway? Okay, if I can't lie to you. Well, shoot, I might as well go home. Okay, I mean, look, that's why Louis Gomer roundly thought of as the dumbest man in Congress, although Paul goes around a couple, and now Marjor and Taylor Green, et cetera, giving him a run for his money. But Gomer is a guy who said that Barack Obama was reconstituting the Ottoman Empire. Now, I know, to the best of mind, I was no reporters ever asked him, it appears to be entirely unreconstituted.
Starting point is 00:51:31 So did you maybe get that one a little, were you a little bit off on that one, right? But no, he just goes around. And but again, in Republican circles, they're like, yeah, that makes sense. God damn it, we can't lie to Congress, the FBI. What is the world coming to? And guys, now in seriousness,
Starting point is 00:51:47 it's because it's part of a mentality of we run this country. We can do whatever we want. And now there's a new rules where we have to share power Right. Equally, in a democracy, they don't like that at all. Nope. And that's same thing for Norvaro. He's like, I thought we were above the law.
Starting point is 00:52:07 What the hell's going on here? Are we going to have to actually abide by the law like non-Christian white men? This is gross. And he's like genuinely outraged. And that's how people were after Clinton won and beat Bush. They couldn't believe. These people are not entitled to run. You know, we're going to have to investigate every single thing he's,
Starting point is 00:52:27 ever done because they're not like us and they're not going to be part of what we're doing. Forgetting, you know, the extracurriculars of Clinton, the point was that we, this is our game. Nobody else can play this game. And that's exactly what you're seeing from Gomer. It's exactly what you saw from Navarro there. And that's what I've been talking about throughout the show as a thread is, is this idea that nothing matters, right? And these people don't think anything matters unless the other side does it. And it only matters because of what it does to them. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we're out of time, but sure for Congress.com, okay?
Starting point is 00:53:01 Tuesday's the election. Tuesday's the election. Go online. Check it out. There's a store. There's everything. That's right. And certainly if you live in the 37th district of California, make sure you're voting, okay? Vote your conscience. There's a lot of good candidates in the race. There are. I'll even admit that there are a lot of good candidates. Such a Michael thing to say.
Starting point is 00:53:23 But there's one who's better, I probably. And that you could be sure of. Oh, okay. All right, guys, we have another congressional candidate coming up next, and we have some really fun stories, too. And now all of a sudden, the entire world hates Sweden. I'm serious, and you'll see why, and you'll hate them. All that when we come back.
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