The Young Turks - Senator Susan Collins Will Vote 'Yes' On Kavanaugh And Lone Democrat Abandons Party

Episode Date: October 5, 2018

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You're listening to The Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. Drop it. So as we'll probably become immediately apparent once we launch of the topics, I'm not in a mood to do like a fun drop it, which I said before the show, and then I, it wasn't just that, it was like the internal, like, sad monologue you must have had before.

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Follow her at Twitter at Brett Erlich. Hey, do you have anything going on? Yes, that's my Twitter actually. It's far more entertaining. Yes, I am John Adirola. Obviously, the show is in a state of chaos right now. Jake Uger is out today, but Anna Kasparian will be back. She'll be here for the second hour. She'll be leading you through that hour. Over the course of this hour, we're going to talk about a few things. Of course, we're going to be talking about the fate of Brett Kavanaugh, which apparently, at least it seems like it, has been sealed so far. We're going to be talking about some of the attacks that powerful Republicans were launching at sexual assault survivors, even before Susan Collins decided to ratchet up a notch.

But later on, we were going to be talking about stuff not having to do with Kavanaugh. We're to be talking about the environmental impact statement that the Trump administration put out. They apparently accept that the world is heating up, but they see it as a good thing, actually. We'll explain why. And then we're going to close out with something light. Hopefully by then I'll be in half a mood to actually do it. And that is a study into Trump's Twitter activity. Should we be as worried about it as we are?

That'll be what we close the things out with. But anyway, thank you guys for joining me on this first hour. Thanks for having us. Everyone also should stay tuned after the show for happy half hour. Guest Brie asked Rick. I had a little schtock when we recorded it. But at the end of the week, if you want to cut loose, talk about some happy stuff. some good news, especially in the wake of all this terrible news, see that you watch it.

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And by the way, in the second hour we'll have some lighter topics too. Quite a few of them are not light after all. Oh, the second hour actually, we have an update on a story Jared Jackson and I talked about on yesterday's first hour, actual justice in a case of police brutality. So that'll be a little bit of good news for you. And by the way, as we're doing this, obviously we come back from each break and we read some of your tweets and member comments and super chats. And today more than usual, I would love to hear what you guys are thinking and feeling

about what's going on in this country right now. So feel free to send those in and we'll be reading some once we come back. Okay, with that, why don't we jump into the news? We were waiting to find out what was going to happen with Brett Kavanaugh. And because we don't have a government of 100 reasonable senators that actually think about and consider every decision. We had like three people that we weren't sure how they would vote. And we came into this day thinking maybe they had been convinced by Christine Blasey Ford

and Brett Kavanaugh's testimony, the FBI investigation that came after it. Maybe that had swayed them. And so we're waiting to find out how they would vote. Well, very quickly through the course of the day, we figure that out. Here's a little matchup of two of those senators. And you find a vote yes tomorrow? So that's something big changed. I don't see.

What would, but anyway, I'm glad we had a better process. What did you think in my house voting? Mr. President, I will vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh. Thank you, Mr. President. So Flake was earlier in the day, Senator Collins, we cut out the first three and a half hours of her speech and just gave you the important part that she had been wasting our time with before you just say whether or not you're going to put the attempted rapist on the Supreme Court. court. So those are two of the big ones. We'll get to others in a bit, but how did you guys react to those? Duh. This is Flakes thing. It has been his thing. It's kind of been, I don't, and it's almost, it's frustrating every time. He is very verbal about how almost like against

this and disappointed in this administration and this process. And this is not just regarding the Supreme Court nomination. This has been going on for the past two years. But if you pay attention, his tweets don't match like what he's done and what he's actually supported and what he believes. He is, you know, pretty gosh darn partisan. And that's kind of what's important to him, I think. So I'm not surprised that he kind of put on a show, but then it has been, you know, you're going to do the same thing the whole time. It's like nobody wants to look like Lindsay Graham, but you'll be him. Just so sad and put out he looked.

Yeah. Just like this, like what is, what's the matter? You didn't do anything. It's Halloween. You added a week to this process, which yielded what? A pretty empty FBI report that by many reports seemed to be limited in scope by the president who tells the FBI what they can and cannot do in this case anyways. And at the end of it, you didn't do anything.

Yeah. Yeah, and so you saw in his statement, he said, we need a better process. He said it, you know, very dumb. No, he said, we think we got a better process. Okay, okay, even worse. We've got a better process. Susan Collins, in her long speech, the beginning part of it, a lot of it was, this process has become too crazy, it's become too partisan.

First of all, at the end of the day, I really don't care about the process, I care about the result. But if you have a problem with the process, look at what end result of the process you have delivered to us, that at the end, it looks like the guy accused of multiple sexual assault will end up on the Supreme Court. But you're okay with that part of the process, it was the people were screaming a little bit. Or there was partisanship. That's what you're bothered by? There was a long part of her already long speech, which made Christine Blasey Ford out to be a bigger victim of the Democrats than she

was of Brett Kavanaugh. Yeah. Where she said, oh, they, I love Diane Feinstein. She would never leak it, but some bastard did. And in doing that, they made it worse. But so she does, you know, Diane Feinstein or whoever it was on the Democratic side went against Christine Blancel Blasey Ford's wishes in making this public, so Susan Collins is going against Christine Blasey Ford's wishes in making her accused, attempted rapist a Supreme Court justice. You can't have it both ways, and they're all kind of a lot of them with these speeches and these tweets and these announcements and these soundbites. You either believe she's a liar or you believe he's a liar.

You cannot have it both ways in there. It's all this long drawn-out discussion, like, oh, she's such a victim to the process in this, you think she's lying. That's why you're like, no, no, didn't you hear him? It's really convenient the way it's, they have it, they have their cake and they get to eat it too. They have their cake and they get to say, you're just confused cake. Yeah.

Your addled little lady brain doesn't it remember how you were made cake? You're either too crazy or too stupid to actually know who tried to rape you. And, but no, but don't think that I'm against women. That was the last part of her thing is they still, that's the other, I guess that's the eating of the cake is they want women to think that they respect them and trust them and all that, while saying effectively that they're either wrong or liars. But honestly, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter either way the guy is going to get on the Supreme Court. I mean, Flake has been kind of doing the same thing the entire time, though, this idea, he sat there and almost in the same

breath said, I'm not sure what happened. I'm really confused. I think we need a different process. Oh, yes, yes, I'll vote to advance. So I don't even, I don't understand what any of that is. He's also such a moron. Like right in the same sentence. He said he couldn't, he wouldn't have been able to do this very brave act of calling for a week-long delay if he was still running for Senate. Oh my God, that is sad by itself. And the result is sadder, but that was sad too. So look, we're gonna talk again about other senators and all that.

I wanna talk a little bit more in depth about what Susan Collins said because I listened to the entirety of it and aged as a result. There were a number of problems. So she went back and for the first I would say at least 25 minutes was just talking about all of the problems people said they had with him prior to all of the sexual assault. stuff. And what's interesting is that she is, I think the point of this speech is to sort of preemptively defend herself from GOP critiques that could lead to something like a primary the next time she's up. And so she wanted to explain all of those sorts of things.

But she also went on the record on almost every issue where we're worried about this guy and said why we shouldn't be worried about these issues. So now what he gets on the Supreme Corps and rules exactly like we know he will, she is on the record naively predicting that he won't do what he's been chosen to do. I mean, there were a couple of issues that were the biggest. So she said, you know, even before his name was out there, there were left-wing groups who were going to oppose him, as if, of course, there weren't right-wing groups that were going to support him no matter what, saying that they spent dark money against him.

Okay, well, there was far, far more money spent on the right in support of him. She didn't say anything about that. She tried to present him as not only a guy who would respect Roe v. Wade, but in general, He's just a guy who respects precedent. Just really like, well, hold it really fast. That she believes that he was put on a short list of, by organizations that are far right, radical judicial, like trying to push to reshape the Supreme Court, that he was chosen because he respects precedent just so damn much.

That that is what his judicial philosophy is, is just even tempered. You know, we're going to continue to let things go the way they are. That is why the far right was saying to Donald Trump that you have to choose. this guy. The best case scenario is that she is far too naive to actually be a Supreme Court justice, but I don't believe that at all. I have too much respect for her. I think that she is lying to you to defend herself from what she sees as a more likely difficult

potential primary process next time around than any sort of general election concern that she has. Yeah, and she's the last person speaking. And so she seems like that one who really, like whether she was or not, she's that one who really thought it over, molded over, and gives you this description. All I was going to add to what you were saying is literally on the record, the head of the federalist society says there is no difference between any of the judges on this list, period. Like, I don't care who it is, what it is, when it is. But that's it.

I do disagree with one thing, though. She wasn't the last person who spoke. Lamar Alexander? No, there was one vote we didn't find out about until afterward. And so, look, as frustrating as it is for Jeff Lake. Before you move on to Mansion, sorry. It was just watching Susan Collins at the end paint him as such a sweetheart. That's what it was.

And she's just making it seem like the same thing that led him to be on the shortlist of the federal society. Like everything about this guy. It was just very frustrating. Yeah, and look, and bear in mind as she's, she wants you to believe that she's really mulling it over and she's thinking really hard about it. Again, there is no scenario where they don't get a radical conservative for this spot. on the Supreme Court, they're gonna get that either way. She is making the case that it has to be him. And she says that people's faith in the Supreme Court would go down if he doesn't make

it on the Supreme Court. This guy that ranted and raved and cried and sniffled his way through his testimony, that if that guy doesn't get on, people's respect and trust in the Supreme Court will be irreparably harmed. I have those fears, I have concerns about the legitimacy of the Supreme Court, and I think a lot of people do, but they don't run in the direction that she seems to think that they do. Right. Okay, so let's move on then.

Jeff Flake, Susan Collins are voting in support of Kavanaugh. Lisa Murkowski says that she won't, and she said that early enough of the day that it provided, I guess, some hope maybe that if others pile on, we can actually stop him. And we were talking about how late in the game Susan Collins was with her speech when she finally announced that she would in fact support him. There was one person who came out afterward, that was Joe Manchin, a bold, strong senator waiting until he knows exactly where all the other swing votes are going before he comes out and tweets, I will vote to support Supreme Court nominee, Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand why he calls himself a Democrat. I've never, I don't understand it. There's a long- It's weird in West Virginia. There's a lot of legacy Democrats opposing, you know, as being the people that you voted for. For example, like, in the South, specifically, like, there was a long tale of the civil war that resulted in Democrats in name being voted for.

And, like, Georgia had a Democratic governor until whatever it was, 2004, and the only reason that it flipped, finally, the full realignment of, like, the dying dog of the old South happened was because the sitting governor didn't eliminate but reduce the size of the Confederate flag on the state flag. Like there's a lot of legacy stuff. Yeah. I think in the media, just in general, he's kind of talked about is this bipartisan politician in this red area. But I don't think history has shown that. Well, I mean, when it comes down to like healthcare, he's on the other side. Okay. You know, and he does it in a very Joe Manchin way. I mean, he's, it's tough to be Joe Manchin. I know that he gets a lot of flack, and it is difficult to be a Democrat in West Virginia.

It is. It is. It is to be elected senator. I don't think it's that difficult. So, like, the whole time this has been talked about as he is thinking about his political future, can he win in November? He is being challenged, obviously. There's a Republican running against him. It ain't that close. It ain't that close that this is what he needed to do. And it's interesting to consider, what if Susan Collins had come out and said that she was voting against him? Would he have chosen to be the deciding vote that puts Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court over the opposition of the two Republican female senators? I don't know, but at the end of the day, he is voting to support him, even though he really does not need to. He is choosing to. He was sweating for sure. He was sweating all day, assuming they didn't all get together and plan this all together.

But he did not want to be that person who had to make the actual choice when it came down to it, because he would have been. Yeah, it would have. But again, I don't think he had to do anything. I don't want to let him off the hook there that this is something. sort of pragmatic thing. I think he is choosing to put him on. I think that Joe Manchin could have gotten away. I said this off camera too. He could have gotten away in a very Joe Manchin style was saying I just didn't like the look of the guy. I didn't like to see him cry. I didn't like to see him go up and do all that stuff and they can throw another one at me and I'll go at that person the same way I go at every decision I do right here. Yeah. Like that's how Joe Manchin is. Yeah. Yeah. And while he says that, everyone can speculate like it's just looking out for Joe

mansion to make sure he gets reelected, but that's his skill, that's where he's gotten, and that's how he's gotten. Can I, like, something that bothers me and that has always bothered me, kind of when it comes to, like, these big decisions that senators have to make when it comes up to heading to votes, this idea that they are undecided until the last minute, and that almost like we hope for that, and that makes, it always makes me uncomfortable. This is far too big of a decision for you to really actually be flip-flopping on. Like at that morning?

Literally, as you're walking down the hall, you're telling reporters, you know, you have your people sending out emails that morning saying, he's unsure. And then as a public generally, they're okay with that because there's a chance. And I'm like, I don't, I feel like that makes me a little uncomfortable because I don't believe it. One, it's a lie. And then two, I don't want that. I want you, this is something I want you to be really sure about for a long time.

Well, it's, they are thinking really hard about it, I believe. But I think they're thinking more of the political calculus of re-election, more than they are, what is the right or wrong thing to do. Including Collins. Including Collins, especially like Flake. What's Flake doing though? Well, Flake is going to run for governor of Arizona, president of the United States, something like that.

And so his political aspirations are not over. And he's carefully calculating all of that as it presents in this. In each of these cases, I just can't wait to see who is going to challenge them. Whether it's Susan Collins, when she goes back, or, oh God, or Flake, whatever. And again, as we talked about in the damage report this morning, the idea that Jeff Flake looks out at America and thinks, I can be president. You moron, what do you think? You have no idea what country you even live. in anymore that you think that you could be president.

I wanna attack with Joe Manchin just a little bit more because he didn't just say he's gonna vote to support Judge Kavanaugh. He also said, I believe Dr. Ford, something happened to Dr. Ford. I don't believe the facts show it was Brett Kavanaugh. You just need to put the last part because you don't actually mean the first part. You don't believe Dr. Ford, if you say that she is so mixed up that she has no clue who she thought has attempted to rape her three dozen years ago. That she's thought for most of her life that this guy tried to rape her, and she is so wrong or so stupid or so crazy that she thinks that you don't actually believe her.

You're calling her a liar. You're just essentially calling her an accidental liar. Yeah. Calling her a liar. That's what you say. You don't believe her. Yeah. This is the result of many people on the right just putting lures out in the water that you can go gravitate to and get hooked on. The doppelganger theory. The doppelganger theory is one. The other one is less specific than the doppel. They tried that one. That was a little weird. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-F-The-Republic, or UNFTR.

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But the other one was, you know, this is a very traumatic thing. I wish you could provide more information. He seems to know for sure and she doesn't. Blah, blah, blah, a thousand things. Tough to be a man in the world. They're coming after us. But, you know, seven background checks. They just cast a bunch of lures.

And Joe Manchin was like, I like that one. I'm not really going to think about what it means if I parse it out. Yeah. And look. And your constituents, the people who vote you in regardless of, like, they deserve your honesty. Not these carefully, like, on PR-created, like, paragraphs. And we're doing so much just, like, breaking down, just with these ridiculous statements. Like, I think that people who you represent deserve honesty.

It's not even, I can't even even focus on the frustration of where you're voting. It's just how you're talking to the general public. That's a problem. And who thinks, leftist, right, doesn't matter. Who thinks that he was just actually doing what he believes? Nobody thinks out on any part of the spectrum. By the way, as soon as he tweeted that, this thing that he did supposedly to get some right-wing support, Donald Trump Jr. tweeted that he's a Lion Joe Manchin and all that.

So great move there, strategically. You are this expert chess player that's teaching us all about, you know, how to stay alive in the South. Looks like it's going to work for you there. That is called, never mind. I want to say just a little bit, so we obviously, we've talked for a long time about how bad Joe Manchin is. He faced a strong primary challenge, Paul Jane Sweering in earlier this year.

I wish that she had been able to beat him. He apparently feels emboldened to do whatever he wants for the next six years. He will be challenged again, hopefully he'll be taken down. Now we've always known he's bad, there's a few others that are bad. But look at this, he is literally the worst Democrat, and he's so bad that he's not even as good on this issue as Lisa Murkowski. He's not even as good as one, possibly in their hearts, a few other Republicans. That's how bad he is.

Now, I will say one of the reasons that it bothers us. so much is that this was so obviously a case where you cannot justify voting for him that he is the only Democrat that we believe is actually going to do it. There was one Republican who votes against Kavanaugh, one Democrat who votes for him. So numerically, the parties are about as opposite on this as you could possibly be. And even under that situation, where it was so clear, so easy, he has to go with the Republicans. The calculus of it, state to state, comes down to people who are going to vote or not vote for these folks. People who call the numbers when the numbers are on the screen to get in contact with your senators or don't call those numbers.

And that's how they're making the political calculus. They are cowards. They are super. A lot of most of them, when it comes down to it, they are out for their own personal interest. And their own personal interest depends on you telling them you're going to vote. vote for them or not. We had National Voter Registration Day, 800,000 people registered to vote. I mean, there are more of us than there are of them. Numbers, numbers, numbers. They gerrymander whatever. This is a senator, you're going to vote for your senator, for your state. Yeah, and at the

end of the day, it does come down to pressure. We know that with Lisa Murkowski, a lot of her constituents were putting pressure on her, and we know the head of the DNC when asked about if the DNC would still support candidates that support Kavanaugh, I think like a week ago, he said, yeah, it's not going to be anything that disqualifies you. So that stops some of the pressure from being put on Joe Manchin. You got to get out there to vote. Yeah, you got a month. The entire thing is so frustrating.

And I imagine, again, the continually, like her speech was so insulting, so condescending, at the same time attempting to protect her from criticism on this issue. Like, I imagine, again, as this whole process has been, if you have survived sexual assault watching this, it has got to be so demoralized. She said in her argument, that, oh, guys, Kavanaugh voted with Merrick Garland 93% of the time. Well, Susan Collins, if there's no difference between those two, why the hell didn't you vote for freaking Merrick Garland?

Yeah, she left out her involvement in that Republican scheme to steal that seat. They have all left that out, over and over and over. And that's, but it's, guys, I, got to keep it real. It's about them having control in Congress. Everything that Mitch McConnell did along the way in order to delay Merrick Garland, was because they have control of Congress. And the way to change them having control in Congress is for you to get off your buns and go vote.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, overall, I think people did a great job. I mean, the fact that we got the testimony at all was because of the pressure people put on them. The fact that we got the FBI investigation, whatever it was worth, was, again, because of the pressure. In the end, looks like it's probably not going to be enough.

But it's also not done. I mean, there are measures to remove Supreme Court of Justice. It's far harder than anyone than I think a lot of people are being honest about, but it is still possible. So perhaps we'll see that exercise at long last. Okay, we're going to take a short break. When we come back, let's see what Donald Trump and Orrin Hatch were saying to survivors of sexual assault in advance of these big speeches today. Okay, everyone. What is that song?

Just a couple of jams. We almost never have songs. that have lyrics. I was very weirded out by that. Oh, go through APM Music Library. Yeah, I haven't written. Oh, it's great. Okay, well, welcome back, everyone. It's obviously Brooke and Brett and myself. I want to read some of your comments first on Super Chat. Let's see, Mario Castaneda said Mansions vote on Cav. I better never, ever hear another person say, quote, Bernie's not a Democrat, as if that means anything. Well, that's why I also why I tweeted, what would it actually look like in practice to throw someone out of the party? And I know some people

say, you know, we have to be willing to have some diversity and all that. But I think there reaches a point where you should have a minimum standard. And supporting him, it's absolutely crazy. Okay, Lars Nilsen said to my horror, and Coulter was a guest tonight in a primetime talk show here in Sweden, spewing her hate against Muslims, Latinos, and also to share her support of Kavanaugh. The rest of the world share your nightmare at the moment. I hadn't seen anything she had said about Kavanaugh, but yeah, obviously, I guess she's supposed to go. Throw her into the Ikea Assembly Dungeon of Sweden. If only.

Okay, let's see. Okay, let's see. Member comments, Harvest said the Be a Hero website to replace Susan Collins crash today because there were so many people crowdfunding, they've already raised $2 million. Love you guys. That is amazing. Wow. Some of that they'd already raised, but I think since her speech, after like an hour,

there were $200,000 additional dollars. Wow. So whoever runs against her and they'll find someone. is going to be well-funded, I think. Gabby Marita said, Susan Collins sounded like a 65-year-old senator version of a girlfriend justifying the behavior of her obviously abusive boyfriend, quote,

but you just don't understand him. When he's with me, he's such a different person, really. Yeah, she kind of said exactly that, actually. He reassured me on Roe v. Wade. Yeah, well, we'll see about that. We'll see about that. People change, John. I don't know.

I was going along with your bit. It's going along with a bit. I don't think so. Yeah. Okay, I'll read some more a little bit later on. Very disappointed about the whole thing. Oh, by the way, there's a lot of different ways that you guys support us and hopefully will continue to support us.

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It's just that. We literally an angel ring. Every time we do that, Joe Manchin gets stuck at a red light. Just briefly, but it's still annoys him. That's the most we can go for right now. I want to see that dash cam. By the way. You know what?

Hopefully, you know, hopefully, you know, hopefully T.I.T will be around in six years to support whoever primaries and takes him down next time around. We'll see. Okay, let's jump back to this morning. Donald Trump has clearly been feeling emboldened to speak out more aggressively against sexual assault survivors. It's been getting worse. Man, imagine how he's going to be now, now that he knows he has the votes.

But anyway, he tweeted this morning about some of the activists who've been speaking out against Kavanaugh. He said this, the very rude elevator screamers are paid professionals, only looking to make senators look bad. Don't fall for it. Also, look at all the professionally made identical signs paid for by Soros and others. These are not signs made in the basement from love. Ew. Hashtag troublemakers, don't forget the best part. Hashtag troublemakers.

So there, he's talking about the protesters in general, but specifically the two women who spoke with Jeff Flake last week and in a way that I can't even imagine how you could do it, just very honestly and openly talked about what had happened to them, about their own experiences with rape and assault. And so they're elevator screamers, paid professionals. So I want you guys to talk specifically about this, but also let's just bear in mind, this is another example of the president of the United States, the most people. powerful person in the world just makes up conspiracy theories and just says them. Doesn't care to find out what's the evidence that they're paid professionals that they're doing this, that all of this protest is not organic at all. These women are lying about their sexual assault. Imagine if Obama had said things like that about the Tea Party or whoever. Of course he didn't. A tan suit. Or he wore a tan suit or if he did a terrorist fist jab with his wife or something

like that. So we just accept it. We have a conspiracy theorist as president. That's awesome. But what did you guys think about this? I just still have not gotten used to this kind casual form of talking to us, like from the Oval Office. I just haven't gotten used to that. Still just even there. And not even getting into what he's saying is just looking at this message. I have not gotten used to that yet. There was the fireside chat.

And this is like the fire sale chat. Like, ah, I would say the garbage fire chat. Garbage, yeah, the dumpster fire chat. The dumpster fireside chat. Okay, let's start that bit over. back to one. You remember the fireside chats? These are the dumpster fireside chats. And that's what it is. Yeah, we, I know that some people are like, you know, why do you guys get so bothered by this or whatever? Part of the frustration is seeing it play out after spending 18 months desperately

trying to get people to realize how bad things would be under Donald Trump and now seeing it every day and not being able to just put our heads in the ground and pretend that it's not happening. But to see, and I tweeted something about this yesterday, that we, as a culture, just we look for the worst examples of humanity, and we shower them with wealth and power and fame, even making them the most powerful person of the executive branch, elevating them to the most powerful positions in the judicial branch. People like Lindsey Graham, these are the most powerful senators in the world. They're the worst people that we can find. And to also have it shouted in her face every morning as this guy continually attacks. Again, I guess even I,

like we're doing the story. All he's doing here is attacking victims of rape. The President United States is saying these goddamn rape victims are getting in our faces and I'm not going to take it anymore. That is what our president spends his day doing. And that was when he thought he might not have the votes to confirm Kavanaugh. God only knows tonight or tomorrow when he does a rally what he is going to say about Christine Blasey Ford. Like up until this point, it's been his supporters in the media and on Twitter who are calling them lying sluts. But is it impossible that the President of the United States would tweet that, that his son is

going to tweet that enthusiastically after this? Don't rule it out. Don't rule it out. Well, because it kind of like everyone almost, like a large majority of what I've seen, they don't want you to be not supporting a sexual assault victim. So that's why everyone's sort of kind of turning like a different corner and manipulating the conversation into, well, I don't believe them. If they were real, they would be worth listening to. If she were telling the truth, she would be worth listening to. And then we could have a

different discussion on Kavanaugh. If these two women were telling the truth, I would listen to them and then they would deserve my respect. But everything I'm doing is okay because they're bought and paid for. They're lying. Even Jeff Flick, in that interview with the Atlantic said, you know, he kind of like alluded to the idea that they were politically motivated. But, you know, And so it's all kind of like, no, no, no, listen, we're not bad people. We don't believe them. If we believed them, if they were telling the truth, this would be a whole different conversation. And it's-

Just go listen to the elevator screamer. Right. Just go back right now and listen to the elevator screamer. A, is she like screaming uncontrollably? Does she look like, does she sound like a paid chill? Right. She sound like a page chill? It's your own discernment.

How good, how well would you have to be paid to act that well? I don't know. I get paid as a Jew in media. I have a helicopter with Soros on the side that I jump in. I actually run up and just it's hovering and I grab the bottom and we just kind of go away into the nothing. So you're doing well. It's essentially the question. I'm a page chill.

Thank you, by the way, for mentioning the Soros angle because I actually forgot about that. Mostly it's about the hating the women who've been raped. But there's a little bit of anti-Semitism there too. The biggest part is the abuse, that this is further abusing, you know, survivors slash victims of horrible behavior, horrible things. It's kind of awful. It's awful to have this even come out of your mouth for anyone. But that's what they, but that's how it works. It is the media savvy of the other side.

Here's what happened with Christine Blasey Ford. She gave a devastating series of statements, responses to questions during her testimony. Devastating. But it wasn't as viral as. like beer, I like beer. Do you like beer? I love beer. Do you get blackout drunk? Right. And there's, and so what happened in that case, in the case of Christine Blasey Ford and in the case of these women who confronted Jeff Flake and gave both undeniably moving, of course they're serious, of course their real statements.

Yeah. In the face of that, all that Trump did was wait 48 hours. Yeah. That's all he did. And was like, oh, Christine Blasey Ford, where was she? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Was she upstairs or downstairs? She already said upstairs, you piece of crap. She said it so many times. So many times. But he says, you're going to listen to me now.

Rehash it because it's been 48 hours. With the women who confronted Flake, oh, it's been 48 hours. Now they're elevator screamers paid for by Soros. Are you kidding me? And he's surrounded, of course, by people who are never going to disagree with him on literally anything. And as he, but let's just briefly go back to the beginning of this national night there when he descended down that golden elevator, he was descending to a bunch of paid supporters. They paid $12,000, $50 ahead, to bring people in to cheer for him. Now, eventually

he would get enough, you know, racist and bigots and all that to come enthusiastically to his things. But at that point, he actually paid a group $12,000. People forget about that. And so again, it's projection, as it so often is. But I don't want to leave you with his comments. I want to leave you with the response by one of the two women that was actually talking to Jeff Flake in that video. This is Anna Maria Arquilla who said, no one can pay for someone's lived experiences. The pain, the trauma, and the rage that I expressed

when I spoke with Senator Jeff Flake and then elevator were my own, and I held it for more than 30 years to protect the people I love from it. So thank you again, Anna Maria, for what you did. I am sorry that unfortunately you and so many others will continually be victimized by this absolute garbage human that we've made president. That said, why don't we move to Hatch? Senator Orrin Hatch didn't want to be left out of this new trend of Republicans mocking and attacking victims of sexual assault.

So when he was approached by some protesters earlier today, he responded in his own way, as you'll see. Don't sleep with it? Why aren't you brave enough to talk to us and exchange out of us? Don't you wave your hand at me? I wave my hand at you. When you grow up, I'll be glad. When I grow up, we grow up.

You and I grow up! How dare you talk to women all right? How's that first? How's that? How do you? That's right. You just listen to us. So, as much as we are really frustrated with Jeff Flake and all that, his response sure seems good in comparison.

He did that to them. Then he said, when you grow up, I'll talk to you. Remember, he's talking to women that whether he thinks they're being honest or not, are presenting themselves as victims of rape. And he says, when you grow up, I'll talk to you. And then as he goes away in the elevator, as condescending a series of gestures and words as is imaginable. Like, stop, Orrin Hatch is Superman. There is like this steel fence around him.

Like, do you know how long he's been in this position? It almost just like manipulates the idea that senators are in place to be your voice. He is as he is just, you know, he's solid. He's doing what he wants. He's been able to do what he wants for years. and that is the response you get when people get comfortable and how could you not get comfortable

if you, there has never been even like a serious challenge. I mean, I'm not surprised by this. Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry. He's, yeah, he's, they weren't attractive enough witnesses to him apparently. Right, right. Is it the same, I mean.

And he says that about everyone. And it's like, he can say, what do he wants. He's a thousand years old. And I don't say that to be agist or anything. He's a thousand years old just to, and he's been in, his position for 998 years.

Like, that's what it seems like. He's looked at young. Yeah, he was one of those two-year-old, I don't know, he's been for 900 years, right? And that comfort of consistently being voted in has allowed him this ability to not have to evolve. Yeah. To not have to change. He is the same person that he has always been. Yeah.

And one of the threads, one of the threads sort of gone through from the, even before the sexual assault allegations, people were putting pressure. on Susan Collins, that was when they started raising money to eventually fund a challenger to her if she voted in support of him. They have always called it bullying, intimidation. Susan Collins told a reporter earlier today that she felt bullied by the sexual assault victims coming to outside her office. And you see there. And what makes this all like come together is those women have the gall to think that because they themselves have been assaulted or raped, that they have something to say about this. But while they came to, With their lived experiences, they didn't come with $250,000 checks.

And so they don't deserve respect. Orrin Hash doesn't care what they went through. They're not funding his campaign. So what's the difference? Susan Collins, has she ever had a lobbying group give a million dollars to her and say, hey, why are you putting so much pressure and speech on me? Now, she's always been fine with that. It's just when it's real people that it suddenly becomes an issue.

And then words matter, too. The principal of the elementary school cannot ever, no matter how horribly ill-behaved, be bullied by a kindergartner. Like, do you know what I mean? Just like the power matters here. And that's it. And that's what they're complaining about. Like when I hear people on the right, be like, it's so hard to be a man right now. It's so hard to be in these positions.

That's what he's talking about. Yeah. That level of discomfort getting into an elevator. And it sounds ridiculous. I sound like I'm hyperboizing. But that's what they're talking about up against the complete. other side, I mean, put yourself in the other person's shoes, the idea of being raped physically. Sexual violence versus these people are bothering me on getting in an elevator.

The elevator that I'm only allowed. You're like the buzzing of fire. You will be arrested if you put your foot in this elevator. Yeah, yeah, the whining, they said for days now, this man's life has been destroyed. It's ruined. He'll never recover. It looks like tomorrow he's going to get in the Supreme Court. Ruined forever.

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slash TYT. Check it out today. I've been saying quite a bit recently that I see this as like the counterattack to the Me Too movement and I hope that women come back at them even stronger. But at the same time, while men need to be allies in that, we also need to engage in our own war, which is to fight this whiny, pathetic version of masculinity that the right has taken up because it is helping to destroy this country. They are so convinced of their own victimhood and that everybody's attacking as the gay, people are attacking us, the women are attacking us, racial minorities are attacking us, when are people going to think about us who have had control over the majority of the earth's surface for literally thousands of years? This pathetic weakness of the right when it comes to masculinity is something that we need to do something about. They're not going to fix themselves. I don't know, I don't have a solution, by the way. I just want to be very clear about that. I don't know how we protect them from themselves, but we need to do something on the left. This job that they keep acting like they're forced to be in, being a senator is not prison.

Yeah, that's true. You could step down today. It's supposed to be hard. But I got to get on the phone to do fundraising. That's what they say. That's what they cite as like the most frustrating part of the job. And that's kind of what we're arguing in trying to get money out of politics. But like they act like it's like this giant terrible thing.

When, you know, the alternative is just don't make those phone calls. Like over the years, some of you don't even show up all the time. So, I mean, like, you're allowed to just not be. Just go be a millionaire. Mansion for the cloture vote appeared conveniently after both sides had voted. Like after the initial roll call, he walked in and then was like, uh, uh, let's scoreboard. We can't get rid of all of them, but maybe we can get rid of Ted Cruz at least. That would be nice.

Okay, please. Look, we have to take a break, though. When we come back, we have some other topics. Sorry, you guys can keep talking about. We're not going to actually be broadcasting. We're only going to talk to John. Okay, when we get back, I'm going to talk to you about climate change and also a look into the social media power of Donald Trump's activity on Twitter. Is he actually changing hearts and minds after this?

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Gina Dam said, people still say it's a he said, she said, but it isn't. He is now a proven liar and she isn't. It's the same reason we can't believe Agent Orange anymore. And Amanda Becker said as a survivor of sexual assault, the last few weeks have torn open, healed scars, and today proved why so many of us don't come forward. I totally get why you would feel that. Hopefully, at the same time, seeing that so many people do support and trust and believe, people are coming out with these stories, hopefully will provide at least a little bit of solace.

But I certainly understand. And let's see. Zero Divisor says, may as well vote for the Republican in West Virginia. Blue no matter who gets you nothing. I mean, I disagree. Like he did vote against the repeal of the ACA. But I would vote for almost any other Democrat over him. I would do that.

We come down differently on this, but yes. Where? I just feel like you should primary like people like Alexandria Ocasic Quartet should. It's tough to be mentioned. I mean, you would need to, but I don't say it's impossible to have a populist, leftist,

Democrat in office there. So that's the one. It's not any other Democrat. It is that kind of Democrat. Yeah. I support apology and swear engine when she primored him. Yeah.

And it's not, but don't vote for the, don't vote for the Republican. You would have. Lost health care. That would be worse. But on this particular case, not much worse. But yeah. Okay, so why don't we jump back in?

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although I could keep talking about that for something like 12 hours. Recently, the Trump administration put out an absolutely massive environmental impact statement. That was last month. And in it, they admit that the earth is heating up and the heat is going to be intense. I would describe it as civilization ending. They didn't use those exact words, but the numbers are the same. But don't worry, though, they actually see a pretty significant silver lining in this apocalyptic scenario that they're sketching. So, first, the facts, the document projects that global temperature will rise by nearly

3.5 degrees Celsius above the average temperature between 1986 and 2005, regardless of whether things like Obama-era tailpipe standards take effect or frozen for six years as they are proposing. Really fast, just bear in mind that 3.5 degrees they're sketching out, scientists are saying that if we don't keep it to below 2 degrees, we are going to have major problems in terms of our civilization's ability to continue on this planet. saying no, we're gonna double it, but don't worry. So a comparison, by the way, the global average temperature rose more than 0.5 degrees Celsius between 1880 and 1986. So this is

way, way faster of a rate of rise. And so why are they talking about this? Why would the Trump administration, which believes that climate change is a hoax of the Chinese, why would they be even admitting this at all? Well, they have a political objective here. The draft statement was issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration written to justify President Trump's decision to freeze those federal fuel efficiency standards we were just talking about. They say that while the proposal would increase greenhouse gas emissions, the impact statement says that the policy would add just a very small drop to a very big hot bucket. So yes, obviously this is going to contribute to climate change, obviously it's going to heat the

world, but we are already on a path that we are setting that it's going to screw us over so badly that why bother doing anything at this point? That's their stance. Yeah, I mean, it's also like, you know, they're looking around and the only person amongst them that'll be alive, and 2100 is Orrin Hatch. And so it's easy not to care. I made a deal with a bridge troll once. Yeah.

Then he gave me life. Unfortunately, I have to drink child blood every morning. That's why I'm against abortion. I need more babies to drink from. Jesus. Orn Hatch. Okay. All right.

So anyway, let's read a little bit more of their argument for why we should be okay with changing these Obama-era fuel efficiency standards. They say the world would have to make deep cuts in carbon emissions to avoid this drastic warming, and that would require substantial increases in technology, innovation, and adoption compared to today's levels, and would require the economy and the vehicle fleet to move away from the use of fossil fuels, which is not currently technologically feasible or economically feasible. What I love is self-fulfilling prophecies.

So they're saying people aren't going to switch over to cleaner forms of energy while pushing policies that make it far less likely that that would ever actually happen. That is a delightful closed circle they've set up for themselves there. People follow us, we're America. People have followed us in the past. The Paris Climate Accord was intended on doing this. In terms of getting away from fossil fuels when it comes to cars, just look at other countries. They have committed to amazingly ambitious climate standards over the next time.

however many years, just, it takes very little time to go look that up. People like Sweden, India, they've all made agreements where they will curtail their overall emissions. In Europe alone, there are many countries that have said we are going to get out of having fossil fuel dependent cars by 2040, 2050, something like that. Yeah. I didn't, I don't have those numbers in front of me, but they exist. I have some numbers I would like to say, actually. Please see that you do.

We've been talking a lot on both this program and on the damage report about the very moves that they're making in terms of deregulation to absolutely trash the environment and your bodies. Yesterday, we talked about how they're trying to lower the standards for protecting you from radiation, saying that, hey, maybe some radiation will be good for you. That's actually something they said. Their proposals so far would give new life to aging coal plants, allow oil and gas operations to release more methane into the atmosphere, prevent new cuts, curbs on greenhouse gases used in refrigerators and air conditioning units. The vehicle rule alone that they're arguing for would put 8 billion additional tons of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere this century,

more than a year's worth of total U.S. emissions. And again, this is the numbers that they're providing. So I want to focus on one number in particular. And what they said is, I believe it's 709 parts per million in the atmosphere of carbon. That is what they're saying we are on path to have by 2100. As they're arguing for more emissions, by the way, let's bring up this chart. You've probably seen this before in things like an inconvenient truth. It's showing over time, over hundreds of thousands of years, the parts per million of atmospheric

carbon dioxide concentrations. And you see there jumping up, again, they like to say that this is just natural variation and things like that. But that huge increase that was so big they made documentaries about it, you realize that that's like 380? They say we're going to hit 709, which for comparison's sake, you couldn't fit on this chart. And that is what they're saying, you know what, screw it. We're not even going to try to stop it.

Why don't we just burn the oil, burn the gas, damn the torpedoes. We're going to have whatever cars we want. It doesn't matter if your refrigerator is inefficient. It doesn't matter. We don't care. We're not going to do anything about it. That was one of the things that we warned about before getting the Trump administration. Hopefully we can gain a little bit of control over these processes in these midterms

and do something actually to not just stop it, but reverse it in the next presidential election in 2020. Absolutely devastating. Ugh. It's so nice when you can get a silver lining out of saying that we're going to end up in a Mad Max movie. But that's ridiculous. Their argument, their logical argument is that it's so bad we shouldn't try it. Right.

It's going to happen anyway. It's supposed to happen. We're still not saying going to change is a thing. We're saying this is something else, called something else that's just supposed to happen. Yeah. And there's a bunch of videos that TiT will be, has already started releasing. John did one, I did one, Jank did one that's out now. It's part of the membership drive, and it goes through the progressive platform, issue by issue,

the one that John did on climate change, is essentially about how, you know, since Citizens United, the entire Republican Party has changed their tune on climate change, and it's based on who's been able to fund what. I used to say climate change existed, and it was, and the money, you know, climate change existed and people were behind it. And then the Koch brothers like, no, no, no, we need to fund our pipelines. Yeah. Now this is another weird way to pervert science in a way that benefits them.

It doesn't even make internal logic sense. If you're gonna piss on my leg and call it rain, at least like have both those things be liquid. Yeah. This is just something that doesn't even hold together. They're throwing rocks in your face and saying it's rain. And saying it's urine. Or that. Yes, yeah, it does come down to funding.

They have been funding Republican senators and congressmen to trash the environment, and that's been working. We have to do the opposite. You have to make clear that this is something you will vote based on. And hopefully also continue the push to get people to accept that climate change is actually happening. and it's something we should do something about. That involves supporting politicians. It also involves supporting media outlets that are going to talk about things like climate change. We have made a commitment to do as much of that as possible, not just on the Young Turks, but on my program, the damage report.

You can help to support us by becoming a member. T.R.T.com slash join. Mainstream media only rarely talks about climate change. They have no particular expertise over it, and they certainly don't prioritize it. Support media that will actually give a damn about the biggest threat facing our civilization and our world. Unfortunately, we don't have more time. I wish that we could do that last story. But thank you, both Brooke and Brett, for joining us.

Watch happy half hour a little bit later on the day. Follow Brooke Thomas, Brooke on air. On Twitter, on Twitter. Because John tweeted the wrong person for the first, I don't know, three months we knew each other. No, I didn't. Did I really? Why didn't you say anything? She didn't wasn't getting the tweets, dude.

Was it a Brooke Thomas? It was Brooke Thomas. Oh. Okay, well, I feel really stupid right now. Oh, it's funny. It was funny to me. Watch the damage report every morning at 11 a.m. 10 a.m.? When are we on? 10 a.m. 1 p.m. Eastern.

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