The Young Turks - Signed, Unsealed, Delivered - November 20, 2025

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You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome. Thank you. You know, All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Jane Cougar, Jordan Ewell, with you guys. As always, huge news. Donald Trump, president of the United States, threatening to murder legislators, because that's where we are. And so lots of twists and turns because I actually don't agree with the original video that the Democrats put out. I also don't agree with murdering them. That should be left unsaid, but apparently needs to be clarified these days.

And then later in the program, our own U.S. ambassador to Israel appears to betray us and maybe even Donald Trump. He meets with a literal traitor in Israel. It is a startling story, an unbelievable story. So that's also on today's show. Jordan, how you doing, brother? Well, I've been better, Jank. Some of these stories are just absolutely disgusting. Well, let's start with this.

Yeah. President Trump has signed the bill authorizing the release of the Epstein files. The Department of Justice is now on the clock to produce those documents. What are you doing here over the next 30 days as we understand it? We will continue to follow the law with maximum transparency while protecting victims. When you say follow the law from the Attorney General, do you mean that you will provide all the files by 30 days? We will follow the law. President Donald Trump has officially signed the bill compelling the Justice Department to release the case files on Jeffrey Epstein.

But with a new investigation now underway and loopholes in the bill, will we actually learn the full truth about Epstein and his co-conspirators remains to be seen? Before we get into it, Jack, what are your two cents here? Yeah, I'm a little worried about what one of the Epstein said, Mark Epstein, about how the files might have been. been scrubbed, we'll get to that in a sec. And are they going to try to find new loopholes to try to keep this out? And one last one, apparently that's three cents. So Trump apparently tried to block this at the last minute anyway. And that's a story you might not have heard. So let's give you all the details. So last night, without any media presence or fanfare, Trump signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act into law after initially trying to block its passage.

But in his truth social announcement, Trump tried to claim credit for the bill. As everyone knows, I asked Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson and Senate Majority Leader John Thune to pass this bill in the House and Senate respectively. Because of this request, the votes were almost unanimous. In reality, the bill passed through Congress despite Donald Trump, not because of him. The DOJ now has 30 days to release the tens of thousands of files. According to the evidence list, the remaining materials include 40 computers and electronic devices, 26 storage drives, more than 70 CDs, and six recording devices, all of which hold more than 300 gigabytes of cumulative data, according to the Justice Department. And we can expect the release to include witness statements,

travel and flight logs, employee lists, documents related to Epstein's islands, handwritten notes, photo albums, financial documents, information on immunity deals, and maybe more. But what will not be included? Probably a lot. The bill includes a provision saying that the government can withhold information from public disclosure if it would jeopardize an ongoing criminal investigation or prosecution. And earlier this week, Trump can conveniently ordered Pam Bondi to open an investigation into Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, and other Democrats ties to Epstein. She quickly followed suit, meaning any documents that could be relevant in that new investigation

are fair game to withhold from the public. Plus, some judges have already signaled that some of the most sought-after material, like grand jury records, will remain locked away despite the mandate from Congress. And there's another major loophole. The DOJ can also withhold records that contain information specifically authorized under criteria established by an executive order to be kept secret in the interest of national defense or foreign policy. So any potential information about Epstein's alleged dealings with American or foreign intelligence agencies could be hidden. There's also been speculation that the government is manipulating the files ahead of their release. In a recent interview with Chris Cuomo, Jeffrey Epstein's brother, Mark, made this allegation.

Take a look. As I've been recently told, the reason they're going to be releasing these things, and the reason for the flip is that they're sanitizing these files. There's a facility in Winchester, Virginia, where they're scrubbing the files to take Republican names out of it. That's what I was told by a pretty good source. Now, it's not clear who his source was. So as of right now, those claims are unsubstantiated, but Jenk, what do you make of this? Yeah, so first of all, why do we need something to exempt national defense? If it's just the case of pedophiles in America that were abusing girls, what does that have to do with national defense?

Things that make you go, hmm, if I got a jaywalking ticket and somebody said, whoa, whoa, whoa, we can't release that information because of national defense, it would make you think what does Jenk have to do with national defense, right? So is, but I'm sure that mainstream media will find that to be an illegitimate. Elegitimate. Okay, so now I want you to know about Mike Johnson's plan, because I told you that they might have been trying to block this at the last second anyway. So are they blocking it? Are they going to redact it as we'll find out? And by the way, on t.yt.com, we're asking you guys, you know, do you think that they're

going to basically doctor this thing or not, right? So Mike Johnson wanted the Senate to pass amendments to their version of releasing the Epstein files. And he was pretty livid when they didn't. And I thought, hmm, I wonder what's in those amendments that Mike Johnson wanted so badly. So one, it might have been some more obfuscation to try to cover up more documents, et cetera. But now I realize what the second goal was based on reporting, which is that if the Senate passes a different version, it would have to go back to the house for them to pass the same version. And that would have created, they estimated about a month-long delay.

And so they just wanted to delay, delay, delay, and that's when when the senators just passed it in a hurry, Mike Justice, like what the hell, that wasn't a plan, guys? We're gonna try to cover it up for a little bit longer and pass some more amendments to cover more of it up. And Jordan, I don't know if they screwed that up or not, and now we're gonna get some, see some information that we might not have otherwise. But look, in terms of, like, let's say that it was an intelligence that you see. So put aside Israel, just say that it's CIA, right? Do we think the CIA would go, oh yeah, go ahead, tell everybody that we put a couple of people up to raping American girls so we can get collect intelligence that was of what

value to America to do what, and what did we do with it? I mean, the only thing the CIA ever does is serve corporations, like, oh, let's go invade that country for bananas and that one for oil, et cetera, et cetera. The CIA almost never works for the American people. And so, okay, they're not going to admit it. Of course they're not going to admit it. And if it's Israel, they're doubly not going to admit it. So like if you're waiting for the files where they go, okay, yes, this was a CIA plot.

They already have the clause about, oh, we will hide everything that's about national defense. So, okay, maybe you're hiding, you know, who actually did it, period, period. Now, and then another thing I'm worried about, Jordan, look, by the way, don't get me wrong. I'm glad I love that we did this. I love that we push from the outside. I love that we got them to do it. And I love that they're going to release some version of the files. And we get it even if they've been scrubbed clean guys.

The internet's going to catch you. They think, oh, well, we'll just give it to ABC and CNN. And they will say that is the official government position. And anything else is a conspiracy theory. And this case is officially closed. Right. then the internet's gonna swarm, right? And they're gonna look at every document and they're supposed to not delete.

Like if they have deleted something, they're supposed to make note of it. They will not make note of it and the internet will catch them. So that's why overall, it's still great news, right? I don't want you to get discouraged. I think the American people plus Rokana, Massey and Marjorie Taylor Grinn did something amazing. Okay, but more worries here, okay, so they say they could say, oh, the Democrats are being investigated. Already, I mean, what a comical thing to say. If there's Republican predators, oh, feel free to rape away. It's okay. No one cares. But the

Democrats will be investigated for these crimes. Already, that's horrific. But on top of that, they might use that to go, well, you know, we are going to give it to you. But we have started a years long, decades long investigation into these rascally Democrats. So we'll get back to you guys when that's over. It's not like I haven't done that before. And it's not like it hasn't taking decades before, right? So not an exaggeration by much. But Jordan, the last worry is that they released the files and they go, well, now we can't prosecute anyone. And I know, you guys wanted the files. You know, we, we only had them for 20 years. If we had them for 30 years or 380 years, we would have gotten to the prosecutions. But since you rascally kids got involved

and we had to release the files, now we can't prosecute anyone. That's also enormously possible. Yeah, I mean, I never really had hope that if this went through the Trump administration specifically, we would get full transparency. And I think the signaling from congressional Republicans all voting for it with the exception of one, I think they all knew, okay, we've got a plan B. And I think it's just scrubbing or a limited release or what we're seeing now. now with this new investigation loophole, oh, we've got to withhold some. You know, we've talked about Trump potentially being a source. You know, Mike Johnson seems to have accidentally let that slip to cover an informant. Maybe that's how they do it.

It seems like Trump was a snitch because they had some falling out over a real estate deal. And of course, there was the element of Ghislane Maxwell allegedly poaching people from Mar-a-Lago. And if he got upset about that and ran to the FBI, that would, you know, some sort of deal made to provide intel or be a source or an informant in exchange for protection, in exchange for a pass, basically. I don't think we're going to get the full picture here. I think it's important to fight for it. I think it would have been on the Biden administration and Merrick Garland to release this material, but they chose not to. and that goes to the other component of this, which is a national security or foreign policy interest. We've talked a lot the past couple weeks about it. It seems like they're covering for other intelligence agencies or one intelligence agency specifically. So Trump signing it to me

was a sign that we're not going to get the full picture. Yeah. And by the way, I just want to clarify every time because I know you're not seeing it in mainstream media. Drop site news has already proven that Jeffrey Epstein worked with Israel. He conspired with a former prime minister with spies that stayed at his house. Israeli spies, of course, it would be funny if it was like random. He was working with Paraguay. No, it was Israel. And they were conspiring to try to get America to bomb Syria and Iran, among other things. So there's no question about that. It's just mainstream media's decided to cover it up on behalf of Israel. It's a curious, curious decision. Anyway, last part of it is, is there a deep state? Well, interesting,

because Trump is always talking about a deep state. And this theory that he was a snitch, ooh, that sounds so true. Okay, look, I can't tell you that that definitely happened. We don't have the files yet. I always clarify, facts, speculation, right? So now we're in the speculation, and Donald Trump turning evidence behind the scenes against others to get himself out of trouble, Sounds like Donald Trump 101. So remember like Dave stayed, of course, I work with him all the time. I mean, whatever. Okay, but by the way, I mean, you could make an argument that if he did,

well, he's working with law enforcement and good for him, right? And well, it depends, doesn't it, Jordan? Because if he's working with law enforcement out of the goodness of his heart and he's turning over pedophiles, then he should be bragging about that to no end. And he would deserve a lot of credit, right? On the other hand, if he's turning over information because he didn't want to be prosecuted because they had him debt to rights legally, that could be a different story, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, that's what I think the likely scenario, if there was any sort of informant role for Trump,

it would be in exchange for immunity. He certainly wouldn't do this out of the goodness of his heart. He maintained a relationship with this guy well after everybody knew what he was. So he had no issue with it. He knew it was happening. We've seen the letters. We've seen the birthday book, all that. He knew if there was an informant role, it was just for immunity to cover himself. Yeah. And by the way, last thing, since this is speculation, guys, it's possible you get an immunity deal for some other charge. Like it didn't have to be that he was involved in the ring. Could have been that the FBI was like, oh, we got you on 28 counts of money laundering.

I mean, look, this houses that are being sold, the condos, etc. But we know you know about Epstein. So what do you got there? Okay, we'll do a deal. So we don't know, we don't know. And we don't know if that's going to be released. But there's some now reporting slash speculation on the possibility. So we'll find out.

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I'm Senator Alyssa Slotkin. Senator Mark Kelly. Representative Chris Delusio. Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander. Representative Chrissy Houlehand. Representative Chrissy Houlihan. Congressman Jason Crow, I was a captain in the United States Navy, former CIA officer, former Navy, former paratrooper and army ranger, former intelligence officer, former Air Force. We want to speak directly to members of the military and the intelligence community who take risks each day to keep Americans safe. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. After that group of Democratic veterans and former intelligence officers urged service members to defyce. quote, illegal orders, President Donald Trump called for them to be punished by death. Jank, I wish I was joking.

And before we get into the details, what are your two cents to both the video and his reaction? Yeah. Look, I want people to stick around for me to explain why I think that video was a bad idea. Do I think that Trump might give illegal orders? Yeah, I do think he might give illegal orders. Nevertheless, that video was a bad idea. Now, does that justify threatening to kill them? Not within a million miles.

Mental, absolutely mental for the president to threaten to kill members of Congress. So, oh no, but everybody online, not everybody, hardcore right wingers online. No, that's just the legal proceedings. And then at the end, we murder them. I mean, it's not murder, it's not murder, we're just killing them. No, this is an insane conversation. So let's give you the details and then I want to tell you why the video is bad and the threat is worse. Yeah, well, that video was posted as you Democratic Senator Alyssa Slotkin's X account.

And it featured Senator Mark Kelly, Representative Chrissy Houlihan, Representative Crystal Luzio, Maggie Goodlander, Representative from New Hampshire, and then Representative Jason Crow. So let's hear what was said in that video, and then we'll get into how Trump interpreted it. Take a look. We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now. Americans trust their military. But that trust is at risk. This administration is pitting our uniform military and intelligence community professionals against American citizens. Like us, you all swore an oath.

To protect and defend this Constitution. Right now, the threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution. We know this is hard. And that it's a difficult time to be a public servant.

But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy, the Air Force, your vigilance is critical. And know that we have your back. Because now, more than ever, the American people need you. We need you to stand up for our laws. Our Constitution and who we are as Americans. Don't give up. Don't give up. Don't give up.

Don't give up the ship. Now that video doesn't seem to be in response to one exact. instance in order to specify what exact orders might be seen as unlawful. However, some of the lawmakers have relayed this week that they are hearing concerns from service members about the legality of strikes that have targeted people, the Trump administration alleges, are trafficking narcotics by sea. Traditionally, the U.S. military adheres to the uniform code of military justice, which holds that service members must obey lawful orders, whether they agree with them or not.

They're obligated to not follow manifestly unlawful orders, but such situations are rare and legally fraught. Members of the military take an oath to the Constitution, not the president. Now, as of November 15th, there have been 21 strikes on alleged drug vessels in the eastern Pacific and the Caribbean, killing 82 people with three survivors. But it's not just that. Jason Crow, who was featured in the video, gave a little more insight into that video on Fox News. Take a look. What are you talking about specifically? Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you asking. Well, number one, the protests of Lafayette Square in the first Trump administration where he said, can't you just shoot them? Can't you just shoot them in the legs or something? That's a direct quote. And of course, the then chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, put back on that. That was not a military order. That was a comment. When that's coming from the president of the United States dear command, To your generals, don't you think that's a request? I'm asking specifically right now what you're talking about.

Yeah, number two, he's also threatened to send the military into Chicago and other cities to code go to war with those cities. Right, that is a very, very disturbing thing. Number three, he's also alluded to sending troops to polling stations, which is actually a violation of U.S. law. When you see this video on- Exactly. All over the place, when you see this video on social media, I think a lot of people scratch their heads. say what what exactly are they talking about are they talking about not allowing gunboats to make it to the United States carrying drugs is that what you're talking about Martha here's a novel idea how about we actually prevent things from happening before they become a problem I think

that's what they're trying to do what you're saying what you're saying is we have to wait until there's a problem to respond to that problem no I'm not now according to the president these potential crimes are nothing compared to the lawmakers seditious behavior writing on truth social in response to a Washington examiner article on the matter it's called seditious behavior at the highest level each one of these traders to our country should be arrested and put on trial their words cannot be allowed to stand we won't have any country anymore an example must be set President D.J.T. Trump then reposted multiple posts agreeing with him, saying they should be thrown out of office, arrested, frog marched, etc. But then he reposted this, hang them.

George Washington would. And he ended his rant with this, seditious behavior punishable by death. And to be clear, seditious behavior or conspiracy is not punishable by death. Treason is, but first, let's look at seditious conspiracy. Seditious conspiracy is what proud boys chairman, Enrique Tario, and two other oathkeeper leaders were charged with in connection to the January 6th insurrection. The seditious conspiracy law was enacted after the civil war to arrest southerners who might keep fighting the U.S. government. Sedition cases have been rare.

in recent history. The charge can be difficult to prove, especially in cases when an alleged plot is unsuccessful. In order to win a seditious conspiracy case, prosecutors have to prove that two or more people conspired to overthrow, put down, or destroy by force the U.S. government, or bring war against it, or that they plotted to use force to oppose the authority of the government or to block the execution of the law. It's not enough to merely show the defendants advocated the use of force. Prosecutors must show they conspired to use force. Conviction calls for up to 20 years in prison. Treason prosecutions are even rarer than seditious conspiracy cases and is punishable by death with a minimum sentence of five years in jail. None of the January 6 rioters have been charged

with treason. Jank, there's more, but I want to bring you in here. What do you make of this? Yeah, disaster all around. So first, you shouldn't follow illegal orders is the message of the video. That is not seditioned. That is just a restatement of American law. American law says that the military personnel and intelligence officers should not follow an illegal order. Okay. So not remotely seditioned to repeat something that is already in the law. Okay? Let alone murdering the legislators. You say, well, it's not really murder because they'd go through a trial and then the state would kill them. Not any better. Enrique Tario, terrible guy, I think he did do sedition on January 6th. He was convicted of sedition. Do I think, for example, he should be murdered? No, no, I do not. No, that's a terrible idea, okay? Now, Jordan laid out the distinction there between sedition and treason, but I wouldn't

have gone within a million miles of that, right? So now, why did I not like that video? Okay, so guys, there's something weird about it, right? Because they say, and there's something problematic about it. They say, okay, don't give up the ship. What ship? I don't know what we're talking about. So if you said, hey, bring the National Guard into the streets of, you know, Portland, Chicago, et cetera, D.C. Well, D.C. is a little bit different, but without an insurrection, is illegal. That is true. And so, okay, but not following that order has a different problem. I'll get back to that in a second. If you say bombing those boats off the coast of Venezuela and other countries, by the way, killing those 82 people is illegal, definitely. And it's actually

murder. And we have no evidence against those guys. Most of the time, we don't even know their names. And a couple of times we caught some of them instead of killing them, and then we just let them go because they were innocent. Okay, so it's an absolute disaster. So now, does that mean that the military should stop following the orders and they should resign when they're told to murder those maybe drug guys, maybe fishermen, etc.? Actually, yes, I do think that. But the way that you do that, in my opinion, is if you're the military guy, they ask

to press the button and kill the guy, go, I resign. And so you can get somebody else to press the button, I'm not doing anything against that. American government, I just won't follow an illegal order. I resign, you can get somebody else to press the button, but I'm not going to do it, right? That I think would show great valor and heroism, etc. But they didn't say that it was about the Venezuelan boats. And in fact, now afterwards, when they're asked to clarify, they kind of allude to those two things, but then go to, no, something happens in the future, right? Okay, now here's the two problems. Guys, if you put out a general statement saying don't follow an illegal order, and let's say

the president says, okay, now you're in the National Guard, you're going to Portland. What are you supposed to do? Are you supposed to say I'm not following the order? And it's my decision. I'm making the decision. Because in that case, for example, that actually has to get adjudicated through the courts. Is there an insurrection? Was there the president call for one? Can he do it without insurrection? Even the courts sometimes disagree. So if you're a person who's like, oh, I'm not going to wait for the courts. I think it's illegal. Again, it's an act conscious that I love and I think that you're very likely right. But if people start doing that in mass, then nobody's going to follow orders. Okay, especially before it goes to the

courts. And now, show on the other foot. Please, please, please. I know we're all, everybody's so obsessed with partisans and what Trump said is so terrible that you don't even want to discuss what the Democratic senators and Congress people said in that video. But show on the other foot. Imagine six right wingers did a video while Obama or Biden was president saying, now remember, if Obama or Biden give you an order, okay, do not follow illegal orders, do not follow illegal orders, do not follow the orders of the president, right? My guess is that a lot of people on the left and Democrats would have flipped out. I'm like, what do you mean you're not going to follow Obama's orders? He's the president of the United States. What does that mean you're

not going to follow his orders? No, I know we would have flipped out, okay? So now we shouldn't flip out either because you are not supposed to follow illegal orders, okay? But making a video about it preemptively is weird and then it and the last thing is Jordan and I look I'm super open to your point of view on it and we discuss back and forth but again do they know something we don't know what what is this in advance of so otherwise it feels so out of place and weird I mean it could be a variety of things we saw today they there seems to be some activity some military activity in Mexico now. We're learning more today.

But there's that. There's an illegal invasion of Mexico potentially that this could be in reference to. But I think the most likely thing is this promise that they would deploy the military on U.S. soil. And, you know, federal law prohibits the use of our military for domestic law enforcement. Trump doesn't care. I mean, I don't think it's necessarily about the drugboats while those are illegal and the justification that the Trump administration has rolled out is flimsy at best. That is that that's just pure killing. I don't think that some of the people in the video really care about that.

Alyssa Scottkin specifically. She is extremely hawkish with a CIA background. I don't think she really cares about intervention that much. I think it's about domestic law enforcement by the U.S. military. I don't see anything wrong with that. We've seen people for months now demand more of Democrats to be bolder, to speak out, to take action, take a stand. In their way, they're doing that here on something that pertains to their military background. I think that's fine. I don't think it hurts to remind U.S. service members who are being fed propaganda by the Trump administration, by Pete Hegseth, maybe even by people in their chain of command about what they're doing. I don't think it hurts to have an outside reminder. And if they're hearing it from their constituents

like they say, it's good to make a public statement about this. Hey, know your rights. In any any other capacity, we do know your rights training. Activism, we tell people, hey, Trump's coming in, we're seeing a wave of authoritarian power grabs. These are your rights. No, you can do this. It's good to have a reminder because, as we've seen in other actions or other areas of the military, going up the chain of command has not always worked. And it's been helpful to have outside influence.

But then again, on the point about resigning versus rejecting the order, rejecting is like the best possible path for them because it gums up the works and they don't immediately lose their benefits if they were to resign. They're entitled to those benefits. They served. They worked for them. They earned them. They deserve them. Resigning risks losing the benefits that they are entitled to. But rejecting the order as they are legally allowed to do if it's illegal also protects their benefits. And then if there is some sort of punishment and like a court Marshal, who knows, but an objective judge or reviewer would see, no, they were operating in a way that they're legally permitted to do so. Yeah. So look, again, I don't like the trend.

I think that there, and I am genuinely curious to see to see if there was a different reason why they did this video preemptively. But I looked it up and the constitutional sheriffs, remember them, they were the guys saying, well, we're not going to follow Biden's orders on COVID or anything else, okay? And I remember being outraged by that. And I remember everyone on the left was outraged. And I just looked it up and tons of articles about this is outrageous. The president says something that people have to follow it, right? So that was on the left. Now we're saying that they don't necessarily have to follow. Now, the reality is it's true. It's true. You should not follow an illegal order. But the complicated part is how do you know it's illegal? So some things are crystal clear. Shoot that man in the head. No, that is an obvious illegal order, right? By the way, bomb those boats is the same thing, okay? So on the other hand, I'm ordering you as a National Guard to deploy in this area.

That's super confused. Like, are you sure that the courts are going to rule in your direction? So I'm worried about it. By the way, the constitutional sheriffs now are challenging Trump too. and saying that they're against ISIS mass surveillance on social media. Okay, although by the way, you see, always they're hypocrisies on both side, right? The right wing's furious today, and they're like, of course, it's sedition and treason, and they should be executed, right? After a trial, presumably, right? So, okay, the constitutional sheriffs are also saying Trump is doing something wrong. Should they be executed?

No, right? Because they're on your side. So like this is absurd. No one should be executed talking about the death of these legislators who made a video, a video I don't love and I don't necessarily like agree with the strategy behind it. But that is actually technically perfectly legal. They're just stating what the current law is. We're going to kill them over that?

No, no. You see, this is why people voted against Trump. That's why I voted against Trump. That's why people were concerned about Trump. That's why people said he was authoritarian. And yes, that's why some people said he was fascist. Because this is a minor, minor, minor issue. It's a freaking video by six people saying to restating American law.

And now we're talking about killing them. No, that's cocoa for cuckoo for cocoa pops. That's crazy, okay? And if you don't recognize that that's crazy, look, no one has the ability to do show another foot. It drives me crazy. So while Obama was president, if six Republicans made a video about, you know, Obama's going to give you illegal orders, you know, and he's going to tell you that, you know, you should, whatever, right? And you should not follow an illegal order. And Obama said, I'm thinking about killing those guys. Come on right wing. Come on right wing. Would you have been like, oh, no, no, he would follow the law. And then if they were convicted of treason, obviously, Ted Cruz and, you know, and Louis Gomer at the time. Marjorie Taylor Green, et cetera, should be executed.

They should be killed by the state. Of course you wouldn't say that. Of course you wouldn't, because it's insane. So this is the problem with Donald Trump. He's insane. All right, we got to take a break here, guys. When we come back, we still have a lot more, including that story that makes my blood boil about how that was an interesting

snort that happened just there. about how Mike Huckabee met with a traitor. And then there's this Trump, Trumper, someone who supports Trump, who did a fake crime that is both like ridiculous in a weirdly tragic way, but also hilarious. So that one we return. All right on T.I.T. Jane and Jordan with you guys. There are a bunch of programming notes. Number one, Jordan's podcast is a surgeon podcast. Check that out. Number two, Madame Rochelle Rodin saying, Jake, I don't fully agree with you, but you do bring some, you do bring some very valuable insight with your argument, especially considering your law

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Don't believe this crap right away. There's one thing in this story that was a dead giveaway. I'll tell you what that is after Jordan tells you what happened. Now, some of the images will show might seem graphic, but please know that the U.S. attorney alleges that these are all fake. This is Natalie Green, a 26-year-old former congressional staffer to Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew. In July of this year, Natalie's unnamed accomplice called 911 and claimed she was brutally

attacked by three men. She says they zip tied her hands and carved things like Trump whore and Van Drew is a racist. And you can see those carvings here. They were attacking her. They were like talking about politics and stuff. They were like calling her names, the co-conspirator allegedly told the 911 operator, adding that the attackers had referred to Green and her work for Van Drew. When police arrived on the scene, she was zip tied and on the ground, and you can see that image here. But after investigating her story, it fell apart. They found out she allegedly paid a body modification artist $500 to make lacerations all over her body. And several days later, after receiving medical treatment for her wounds,

Green was again asked to describe her alleged attack to law enforcement officers, including an agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Interviews of Green and the co-conspirator did not match. Investigators used cell tower locations to, to obtain video footage and evidence that she went to a dollar store in Ventnor to purchase zip ties. Investigators also found similar zip ties in her car. Green was charged with conspiring and falsely reporting to law enforcement on Wednesday and Wednesday by the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey. She faces a total of 10 years in prison and $500,000.

in fines, plus six years of supervised release, if charged to the maximum extent on each charge, if sentenced to the maximum extent, rather. Time will tell, because the acting U.S. attorney in New Jersey is Trump's favorite lawyer, Alina Haba. Jank, what do you make of this story? Pardon, incoming. That's what I make of this story. Okay, so, okay, here's one of the two dead giveaways, Trump whore. That's not how people on the left talk, okay? Like, it's such an obvious case of projection. All right, now, okay, what would we call them? If we were going to carve them up, we'd be like, Biden whore, right? That's what they probably say the same thing. Let's go to Trump whore, right? I don't know any progressive that talks like that. So like,

okay, yeah, there are mental people in the world, but less likely. And then Van Drew's a racist. Oh man, if I had a dollar for every progressive talking about how they hate Van Drew, I would have zero dollars. No, well, I think we once did a story about him and he's a little cookie. But really, people were so animated by Jeff Van Drew and they decided to carve up his staffer, less likely. Okay, guys, when you, this is something left over from the old days from Ben Manquitz, right? when he and I used to co-host. Ben had a great nose for fake stories. It was best in the business.

So he would sniff out a fake story for like years ahead of time. Like the Justy Smollett, like I don't remember if we were on there together for that one. But whenever I see stories like that, I call Ben, I'm like I got one. Okay, like, oh, things that are way over the top. And like the stereotype of what the other side thinks, the other side might think, right? Yeah, come on. Come on, come on. Have some skips. So Jordan, as to why she did it, I guess attention and wants to be famous and everybody's trying to get attention in like this stupidest ways these days. That's my best guess. What do you think? That's what I thought too. So I did a video on this on my Instagram last night because I was just so enamored with the story. And I looked, Jank. I looked extensively on different crowdfunding sites. I looked at old tweets searching her name or even key phrases.

I couldn't find anything at all from that time about this attack. So if that was the play, it didn't work. But yeah, my thought was like, why go to such great lengths, like paying someone to allegedly paying someone to carve or lacerate her body and write Van Drew as a racist and Trump horror and all this stuff, buying the zip ties? Doing all of that for what? It didn't seem like she got any press. It didn't seem like she got any attention. And now she's alleging, you know, she's facing years in prison as a consequence. So if that was the plan, even that was poorly executed.

But I guess we shouldn't be surprised when allegedly she did this and there are, she left the zip ties in the car. Yeah, there's a lot of strange things going on lately. This one is among them. Why? What a dumb, strange thing to do. And guys, if you're thinking like, oh, yeah, that's. It'll be fun. I'll try to get everyone to hate the other side by pretending that they attacked

me in a horrific way. Remember, you can go to jail for years and years for doing that. And you should, because it's a danger to the community. It gets people to hate one another, go and potentially do vigilante justice, et cetera. It applies equally to the left and the right. So this was a completely mental act. And I don't know what, you know, if there was a deeper motivation, other than just trying to get famous, but either way, preposterously dumb. Okay. You got to take a break? Yeah, we do indeed, guys.

And when we come back, okay, I should have these ready. I don't. That's why you see me fumbling through the papers. Okay, terrorism in the West Bank gets to a whole different level. And of course, it's Israeli terrorism. They're the main terrorists in the region. All right, we'll be back. All right back on TYT, Jane and Jordan with you guys.

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TYT.com slash switch. Make sure you do it in time to get the extra 50 bucks. Okay. All right, Jordan, what's next? Israeli settler attacks in the West Bank have become so severe that even Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu is speaking out against them. But as explained by journalist Jasper Nathaniel, those very settlers operate with impunity, thanks to the actions of the Israeli government. We'll have more, but Jank, are you surprised by this?

No, it's really heartbreaking. So it's slow motion terrorism. And what they did to Gaza, they're doing, you know, in painstaking smaller ways, but very consistently in the West Bank. And that's Israeli terrorism against Palestinians. And the way that the vigilantes and the government are unofficially working together is the very worst part of it. So let's give you the whole story. And then we'll talk also about whether there's anything in the world we can do because

it is Israel. So they are almighty and no one in American government is allowed to challenge them. By the way, including if they murder Americans, which they have in the West Bank. So how bad is the violence in the West Bank right now? The UN Office for Humanitarian Affairs registered more than 260 settler attacks resulting in Palestinian casualties or damaged a property in October alone, the highest monthly count, since they began monitoring in 2006. Of the 1,000 Palestinians killed in the West Bank since the Gaza War began,

between 20 and 32 were killed by Israeli settlers. During the same period, the UN Office for Humanitarian Affairs says Palestinians killed 19 Israeli civilians. The UN also states that since October 7, 2023, over 3,000 Palestinians in the West Bank have been forcibly displaced by settlers. It's currently all of harvest season in the West Bank. So all of this violence is happening right when it's crucial for farmers to be working. Now the Israeli government is publicly condemning the violence, Netanyahu stated. I view with great severity the violent disturbances in the attempt to take the law into their own hands by a small extremist group that does not represent the residents of Judea and Samaria. Netanyahu stated he would deal with the settlers personally.

But notice that he cast the settler movement overall on a positive light while framing the perpetrators of violence as a small. minority. That's a deliberate strategy. Israel's government has repeatedly enabled the settler movement. Last year, Israeli defense minister, Israel Katz, ordered a ban on administrative detention for Jewish settlers. If you're unfamiliar, administrative detention allows Israel to hold suspects for six-month periods without charge. Israeli security minister, Itamar Ben-Givir, has distributed over 100,000 weapons to Israeli civilian security squads, including squads in the West Bank. Meanwhile, the Israeli government continues to authorize settlements. And there is rarely accountability for settler violence. The Israeli human rights organization Yashdin found that over

the past two decades, more than 93% of police investigations into Israeli offenses against Palestinians and the West Bank were closed with no charges filed. Jasper Nathaniel, who wrote about the symbiotic relationship between the extremist settlers and the legal settlers and the state of Israel. The state and the different settler factions may quarrel over timing, optics, and methodology, but they agree on the destination. The fringe anarchists push past the map, the respectable settlers move in, then the state later incorporates the gains. Jank, what do you think? Yeah, so it was a terrific report.

Let's put a link in the description box so you could read it. It's by, by the way, some really great reporters who have risked themselves to capture some of this, some of this on video and to give you all the details. And so they've been, the part that was most disturbing to me, Jordan, was the latter half of the article where one of the biggest activists who was had committed violence and is actually a terrorist and but was then, of course, let go because that's what Israel does. 93% of the cases that are brought when settlers do violence against Palestinians are dropped without charge. So they're like, oh, yeah, violence against Palestinians, that's our official position. We do violence, we kill them, and we take their land. That's what Israel's done from day one. That's what they did in Gaza.

They took 53% of it. Now they're planning to bomb, according to Dropside News, more of Gaza and take more of Gaza. And in fact, Jonathan Pollard will get into him later, a traitor to America. works is far right in Israel, saying, yeah, no, no, no, the far right still believes we should kill everyone in Gaza and take their land. So the Israeli settlers are almost all terrorists. They believe their whole point there, and Nanjahu is backing it up, saying, this is Judean Samaria, this is our land. So the Palestinians are sitting on what we view to be God-given land to the Jewish people. So they're going to go there, the settlers are, Jewish settlers from Israel,

and they're going to remove them by any means necessary. We're going to look the other way after they do violence. And then now the violence is so out of control and caught on tape by a wonderful Jewish-American reporter, right, that they're like, oh, okay, we can't ignore it anymore. Some people in America are yibri-yabbering about how we're terrorists or whatever. Okay, here. Oh, we condemn them a little bit. But their way to go.

Judea and Siberia, crush the Palestine. That's Spanish. So look, if the shoe was on the other foot and the Palestinians were talking about using religious words for the, for Haifa and Tel Aviv, and they become, oh my God, from the river to the sea, these monsters. Israel doesn't, they're like, yeah, yeah, Judea Samaria, that's our goddamn land. We're going to kill them all, we're going to take the land. And the press is like, I don't, I don't, I can't decipher what they're doing.

And then they actually do it. It just keep murdering and murdering and murdering in the West Bank. By the way, nine Americans killed. No accountability. at all in just the last three years. The American government's like, oh, we're so sorry, Israel, we're so sorry. Kill anyone you like, kill more Americans, who cares? They're only stupid American citizens.

They're not the super valuable Israeli citizens. Anyway, you get to the second half the article and he explains, yeah, so this terrorist that was let out of prison, he writes an article saying, oh yeah, yeah, this is all a trick. And they publish it. So they're kind of rubbing our face in it. They're like, yeah, yeah, we go and first take the hills, then the guys, He never pretends that we're naughty boys. But then we say we're in danger because we stole the land.

He doesn't say stole, of course. And so we go, oh, we are, this land that we sees that is not ours. Some people object because it's actually their land. Oh, we're the victims, we're the victims, right? And then IDF comes in and slaughters the Palestinians because the settlers, the illegal settlers felt unsafe. And then we just keep playing this game over. over again until we take more hills and more hills and then we go well we have so many hills

this should be an official settlement and then the Israeli government goes well I guess that's just the facts on the ground and they make it an official settlement and we work and he explains we work with the government on logistics meaning like they're meticulously planning this out together the government pretending that they're outraged by some of these crimes is a total and utter lie no they love these crimes and so they literally planned them out together and the guy who planned it wrote an article explaining how they planned it and so they do logistics and he says we also have ideological gatherings with the government and we talk about how we're gonna take this land and we're gonna take all of it and we're gonna

drive the Palestinians out either murder them or um or ethnically cleanse them off the land so look at this point Israel is an evil government that's not even close it's like it's one of the most evil governments in the world. And so if that hurts your feelings, there's like, sorry, but like, you should do something about this government that you, I don't know that you love the government, but if you love Israel, you shouldn't want it to have a deeply evil government that plans terrorism with a bunch of terrorists and then uses it to steal other people's land and murder them while they're doing it.

No, super evil government, it just is. Anyone who says otherwise is so obviously biased. Well, what's the justification? No, it's okay, we can murder them and take their land because they're just no good dirty Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims. What is this? No, no, the Israeli government is a disgusting government right now. And the fact that we pay for these monsters, they take your hard earned money and they give

it to these terrorists to kill other people and to take their land. I can't stand it, Jordan. I can't stand it. It's it just shocks my conscience. Yeah, I think this is an instance of Netanyahu just trying to save face. I mean, I know we know Ben Gavir would not care. In fact, he would celebrate these attacks. The guy is just a maniac. But what you're seeing is when it comes to settler violence, we've seen the Biden administration sanctioned people. I mean, that was like the, it was only a handful of people and it was the most they did throughout this entire genocide. But this is the one area where you will get the A-PAC member,

some of the pro-A-PAC, pro-Israel members of Congress speaking out. It's a line that they've drawn. It's the lowest possible bar, but you're already seeing some members of Congress call on the Trump administration to crack down on the Israeli government because of this. That's it. It's only that they don't care about the mass slaughter and genocide in Gaza. They don't care about, for the most part, expanding illegal settlements.

But when it comes to violence, that's where they step in. But again, it's a low bar to clear. But that's why you might see Netanyahu at least pretend like he's upset by this. Yeah. And by the way, the American legislators are totally lying. They have never done anything about it. And this is all a game. And the American politicians are in on it.

If you don't do something about nine Americans murdered, you're not going to do. anything. There's this 16 year old American kid from Florida. The Israelis put him in a gulag for looking at someone else throwing a stone. And kids lost 30% of his weight. He might die in that gulag. No contact with his family because the Israelis are like, what do you mean? We don't have to follow any of the laws. No, we're not going to follow the law for this stupid American citizen. We'll kill that American kid and then you'll give us money to do it. And then we'll have your stupid American politicians that we bought come out and go, oh, we are concerned a tiny bit about the West Bank settlers.

You don't have to do anything about it. Here's another $31 billion, which they gave them in the middle of this genocide. So what they're doing in this West Bank is, of course, disgusting and proves that Gaza had nothing to do with self-defense because they're doing the same thing in the West Bank, driving out the Palestinians, driving out the Palestinians, killing the Palestinians, taking their land. That's the whole point. It's not like they're hiding it. It's called Greater Israel.

They constantly say, yes, we are going to take Judea and Samaria. That's the West Bank and Gaza Strip. And we're going to make that part of Israel and we're going to call it greater Israel. By the way, we're also going to take a part of Syria. We're going to take a part of Lebanon and a lot more. And American press goes, oh, they voted on it. Oh, they said it out loud. No, I'm going to cover up for Israel.

I'm going to lie and pretend this is about self-defense. There's no self-defense in the West Bank. None. They're all terrorists, terrorists who murder people to steal their land. Okay, so anyway, last thing is Ben Kavir and Smotrich, they're not theoretically in favor of it. They literally were these settler terrorists, and they would run around those hills and they were like out, they were the fringe radicals in all these. But Israeli culture has gotten so terrible that guys like Ben Gavir and Smortrich were considered radicals, and Ben Gavir was actually convicted of aiding and abetting terrorism. He's a convicted terrorist. Now he sits in the cabinet, both him and Smortrich go anytime, oh, you're not murdering,

more Palestinians, I want all ethnically Palestinians ethically cleansed. And if you don't cleanse them like Nazis, I'm going to leave the government and then Yahoo, you'll have to go to elections and you lose. So they're running Israel right now. A terrorist like Ben Gavir is running Israel. And then Yahoo's no different at all. One of the worst bloodthirsty leaders of my lifetime. And I'm forced to pay his salary. I'm forced to pay for Ben Gavir and Smoutrich as they make deeply evil plans to murder innocent people and steal everything they have. And all of you out there, every single one of you, that's an American citizen, is forced to work longer hours and to take money out of your paychecks.

And we are told, we owe these terrorists. We owe these terrorists our money because they haven't slaughtered enough people yet, and they haven't stolen enough land yet. It is indisputable. The whole point of the West Bank Settler Project is to steal the West Bank. If a media person tells you that's not true, they work for Israel and they're lying to you because it is indisputable. Okay, so how much land are we going to let Israel steal, how many people are we going to let them murder with our money before we say enough, enough do not put us on this moral graph. it's too much for us to bear. I can't bear it anymore. Now you're going to make us morally

complicit with terrorism, with a rogue terrorist state like this, whose only mission has been from day one, kill Palestinians, steal their land. I can't stand it anymore. The journalists are supposed to be honest. Where? Where? I'll tell you where. This brother, make sure you're checking them out, drop site news and some other outlets. And that's about it. Mainstream media in America basically completely works for Israel. They cover up all of the news. If you ask them, is it true? They'll say, well, yeah, it is true.

Then why didn't you report on it? Well, it would be anti-Semitic to tell you things that are true. No, it's not anti-Semitic. This has nothing to do with Jews. It has to do with a terrorist mentality that unfortunately has totally taken over Israel. And you can tell it because they never punish them. It's not like, oh, golly, gee, those guys are so radical. But don't worry, we put them away.

No, they're like, no, we let him go. all the time, 93% of the time. And then they come out and they tell us about how they're going to do more terrorism and then we send them more money. Now Israel's a terrorist state and it's not even close and we're forced to fund a terrorist state. It's unbelievable because of the dirty, disgusting American politicians and disgusting American media, young Turks. I don't know. I'm going to be. I don't know.

I'm going to be able to be.