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Episode Date: April 5, 2024

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All right, welcome to the Young Turks. Jake Huguer Anna Kasparan with you guys. Of course, an exciting show ahead. Unfortunately, we have plenty of stories, news about Israel, but we'll decipher it all for you, unlike other media, which pretends that Biden cares. And then later in the program, more about Trump as well and his shenanigans and the different ways that the right wing is kissing his ass. Anyway, lots to cover on the show.

So, Casper, take it away. Well, we begin with some tense conversations between Joe Biden and Netanyahu. We'll get to those details in just a moment, but first, this. Democrats are split on Joe Biden's handling of the Israel Hamas war. John, you know I look at poll numbers a lot. For a president to be doing this poorly amongst his own party on any issue is quite something to say. And perhaps that's the reason why President Joe Biden had allegedly a tense

conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today, we will get to those details in just a moment. But first, a new general election poll by the Wall Street Journal does spell trouble for Joe Biden in critical swing states with Trump basically leading in every single one except for Wisconsin. Further bad news for Biden is the fact that these are the results even with RFK Jr. who is skimming votes from Donald Trump included in the race. And as you heard, Biden's handling of the Israel Hamas war has a lot to do with him flailing in the polls among Democratic voters and independents who lean Democratic. Let's watch. So this is approval among Democrats on Biden's handling of a lot of different issues here. The economy, Russia,

Ukraine, pretty good, right? 81%. Jumped down to foreign policy. You see this drop to 65%. Gun violence, 60%, U.S.-Mexico border, 58%. These are not good numbers for a Democrat amongst his own party. But look here, the Israel-Hamas war. Look at that approval rating. Less than 50% of Democrats are approving on Joe Biden, on the Israel-Hamas war. And more than that, John, these numbers have gotten significantly worse. So this is Democrats' views of Biden on the Israel-Hamas war. October of 2023. It was 67%. Look where we are today, 48%. That disapproved number number? Look at that jumped up from 28% October of 2023 to 46% now. This is within the margin of error. Democrats are split on Joe Biden's handling of the Israel Hamas war. John, you know I look at poll numbers a lot.

For a president to be doing this poorly amongst his own party on any issue is quite something to Now we have more from this poll, just a moment on that, but Jank, I feel like you and I have predicted that this would hurt Biden and his chances of getting reelected almost immediately after Israel started bombing Gaza, right? We knew that it was very likely that the far right government of Israel was going to take it too far, that Democratic voters weren't going to like it. It's just that Biden has taken, well, he hasn't really pivoted at all, but, uh, to really address or release statements about how brutal this war has been toward Palestinian civilians. It has taken in a while to even say anything about that. Yeah, so I want to tell you guys why we've been right all along and what the difference maker is between us and mainstream media, etc. But I also want to tell you something we got

that I did not expect and I'm now seeing, okay? So look, we are on social media, digital media, et cetera, we're on almost every point. So we are better connected to the grassroots, to the base, to the vote, actual human beings, voters, and especially the young people, right? So they discontent with this was super obvious to anyone that didn't live in Washington. But you have to remember, Washington is an island, and in that island, they think almost the exact opposite of what everyone else in the country thinks, and they all think it.

So it's very, very hard for them to understand simple concepts. And we told them that, well, of course, I mean, if you support a bloody war where tens of thousands of civilians have been massacred, yeah, young people are generally not going to like that, let alone other parts of your Democratic base. But to them, no, it's a very simple formula. If you're a politician, let alone Democrat, let alone a president in Washington, you must support Israel 100%, literally no matter what they do, right? And so they think, well, I don't get it. I'm applying the formula. I don't understand. I'm applying the formula. I just, I, whatever Israel says, I kissed their ass and I'd do it. I, why is it not working anymore? Well, here's why it's not working. Because in the past, you would, the mainstream media was the only game in town. So they would repeat the same exact thing. And corporate Republicans and corporate Democrats who all take money from AIPAC and the defense industry would all repeat the same thing. And it was brainwashing on a mass scale. But because of social media, that's not working anymore. And they don't know how to adjust. It's not like they would ever care about human beings. They're just trying to figure out how to do the right marketing here. And they're failing abysmally at that too.

But Anna, what I didn't expect is the turn on the right wing. And now I am seeing it all over the place where the right wing base is going, no, we don't support Israel anymore either. And I don't know why we're funding this. Whether we like or don't like what Israel is doing, I don't want to fund it. And so I don't think that Israel is, Israel has any idea how much trouble they're in when it comes to both the Democratic and the Republican base here in America. And Netanyahu has done untold damage. There's no way Hamas could

have gotten us to, you know, not financially support Israel. But now it looks like Netanyahu has. Yeah, it's interesting that you bring up the right wing because look, over the last several years, there has been a growing portion of the Republican base who are self-identified isolationists. It's not that they're so much against Israel necessarily. It's that they want to focus on using American resources on the American people. But I will say that the tone of their critiques has also changed a little bit in recent weeks. Because as we see more and more footage coming out of Gaza, as you see the complete and utter destruction of the infrastructure there, the ever increasing death toll, the attempts to silence people who are critical of Israel's far right

government and how the IDF is carrying out their military operations. These are all things that are starting to offend the sensitivities of conservatives, some conservatives, and what their principles are. And so I'm honestly happy to see that, you know, among that group, they're not just all talk. You know, they walk the walk and they're speaking out. And, you know, if there's an area where the left and the right can actually form a coalition on this one issue and apply pressure toward the United States government to take a different direction, I think that would be a good thing. Now, I want to get to one more video of Enten describing the outcome of that Wall Street Journal poll because in the next clip, the discussion is really a about independent voters who lean Democratic.

What is the impact of this war on Gaza for those voters? Let's watch. If you like Biden's handling of the Israel Hamas war, look here, Joe Biden, 94%, Donald Trump, 2%. That's about what you'd expect to see, right? A very large lead for the Democratic candidate, maybe just a few Democratic voters going the other direction. But take a look here, if you dislike Biden on the Israel Hamas war.

Look, Joe Biden's still getting the lion's share of these voters at 81%. But this is a significant chunk of Democratic voters who are going in the other direction, 15%. So what essentially we're looking at here is a 66 point margin versus look here, a 92 point margin. You can't be losing 15% of Democrats if you're Donald, if you're Joe Biden. You cannot be doing that. This type of base going in the other direction is something you can have, especially if you have independents who are also turning against Joe. Look, I think that that data is so critical to analyze and talk about because we all know that the general election really comes down to those independent voters, right? I mean, if you are firmly a Democrat or if you're firmly a Republican, chances are you're going to play ball once it comes to the general and you're going to vote for your candidate or for the candidate in your party because you're a team player and you're going to support your tribe.

Independent voters don't operate that way. And when you consider how the electoral college works, Jenk, and when you consider the fact that Biden barely eeked out a win in some of these swing states in 2020, these independent voters really could make all the difference when it comes to those critical battleground states. Yeah, so he's doing even worse with those independent voters. But remember, that's not 15% of independent voters. That's not 15% of Democrats saying they're concerned about Biden's position. That's not 15% of Democrats saying they're going to sit out the election, which would already be a disaster. That's 15% of Democrats saying they're going to vote for Trump over Biden because of Biden's position on Israel and Gaza. You know what

that means? That means, nah, nah, nah, nah, this election's already over. So, I mean, if it were held today, obviously. So Joe Biden can turn around, although I doubt it. I would floored if Joe Biden cut Israel's funding. We'll come back to that. Because turning around isn't, oh my God, you'll never believe what mean words I used on him on the phone. I wouldn't even call him daddy anymore. Okay, no one cares. No one cares about what words you used. Only idiot cable news anchors care. And maybe if you work at the New York Times. But the rest of us are so tired of you. Money talks, BS walks, okay? You either cut the funding.

or just shut up already because you're humiliating yourself. I want to say one more thing about the right wing voters, too, because all this is going in the direction of Biden almost definitely losing this election. But it has ramifications past the election too, because a good example is the Patrick Bitt David show. Anna, you were on there, you're on the first people that said on that show, which is right wing, hey, I don't think what Israel is doing is right. And they started to be receptive to what you were saying in a way that was surprising. And then after you left, they wavered on a lot and they would fall back into Israeli talking points, et cetera.

But now recently they're saying, no, no, I don't see why we're funding this. This is crazy. And Biden looks so pathetically weak. He's just following Israel's orders. And they're beginning to put a little bit of pressure, I feel like, on Trump not to do likewise. So Biden's election is in danger. But Israel losing this support of America, period, is for the. the first time in my life an actual possibility.

Yeah, and look, I was shocked at the Patrick Bet David podcast's audience and how receptive they were to what I was saying in my critical statements about Israel and how they're carrying out this war because I thought they were going to skewer me. I thought they were going to hate those comments and they pretty much hated the rest of the interview, but they appear to really appreciate what I had to say about how Israel was carrying out that war. And to me, that was the first sign that there really is a growing portion of the Republican base that really sees what's happening and they're not supportive of it. And they do not believe that American taxpayers should be funding, you know, the brutal annihilation of Palestinians

in Gaza. But, you know, despite all of this data that's been coming out, Jenk, despite the multiple polls now showing Biden losing in battleground states, it appears that there's still this this sense of denial within the Biden camp, even within the Biden household, as you're about to see in the next video? So- It's not a part of you that's a little worried? No, no. No, I feel that Joe will be reelected. But when these polls like the Wall Street Journal one land in the White House and he's losing

in all the battleground states. No, he's not losing in all the battlegrounds since he's coming up and he's even or doing better. So you know what, once people start to focus in and they see their two choices, It's obvious that Joe will win this election. Now, look, I should be fair, Dr. Jill Biden, the first lady, apparently behind the scenes is really urging Biden to end this war in Gaza. But in general, I got to say, don't be delusional about what the polls are saying. And if you are, then your husband's going to think he's doing everything correctly and he's not going to change course.

And in fact, so far, he hasn't changed course. And so I don't think it's really helpful to deny what the polls have been saying, really one after another saying the same thing, especially when it comes to the battleground states. Yeah. So I don't believe her. And I'll come back to that in a second in terms of what she theoretically says about Israel. But to your point, Anna, about the polling, look, I think that she is actually representative

of a lot of establishment thinking. They all think that it's obvious that Biden's going to win. That is why a lot of times you'll see framing on articles or from cable news hosts where they'll say, shocking poll, Biden beginning to lose or trail a little bit. Is it even possible that he could lose? What the hell are you guys talking about? He's been losing in every poll for the last six months. They live in crazy la-la land where they think the establishment Democrat is always going to

to win, that's super obvious because almost everyone in Washington and everyone in media is establishment Democrats or establishment Republicans. They all have the same group thing. So she's like, it's so obvious. And then the second thing that she says there is once the American people realize these are their two choices, then obviously they're gonna vote for Biden. I've heard that, you might think that's the dumbest thing in the world. We all realize that now.

Do you think that people don't know that it's Trump versus Biden? But yes, these morons inside Washington really think, people aren't paying attention yet. They don't even know who the candidates are. Once they find out it's Donald Trump. And once they know they have 91 indictments against them or 91 counts against them, oh, then Biden's going to win easily. You guys are in Lala Land, lunatics, totally detached from reality.

He's getting his ass handed to him. At this point, it's fairly obvious he's going to lose, not win. Yeah, I mean, look, implied in that statement is really the notion that they're just going to scold their way to re-election. Yeah. How could you say you're not going to cast a ballot for Joe Biden? He's the decent one. Again, real difficult to argue that Biden's the decent one as he provides the military weaponry for the slaughter of innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza. We're not buying the argument that this is to fight Hamas.

Obviously, the death toll of innocent civilians has overwhelmed the alleged death toll of Hamas militants. We don't even have an exact figure of Hamas militants who have been killed because Israel has been labeling every, you know, military age male in Gaza who's been killed as a Hamas militant, even though there's no evidence to prove that for many of them. So with that said, I want to move on to all the different figures who are not privately urging Biden to change course, but are very much publicly urging him to do so. So let's get to it. Several public figures, several people who vote Democratic and are in the public eye have felt the need to publicly demand that President Joe Biden change course and apply pressure on Israel to essentially end the war on Gaza. So one of the people who actually spoke on MSNBC of all places is the former advisor to Condoleezza Rice. She's also a former NSC spokeswoman. Her name is Elise Jordan. Yes, I understand that she is not the typical Democrat, but the fact that this was a type of critique that was uttered on MSNBC, which tends to provide cover for Democratic administrations, I think, means a lot. So with that said, let's take a look. Okay, I'm so sick of hearing how upset President Biden is. The butt stops with him. If he wants to stop arms sales, if he wants to stop the bomb.

that are indiscriminately killing civilians, he can. He has the power. We don't need him going and his aides going to reporters and talking all back around about how upset they are. Until those checkpoints are working and aid is going through, we don't need to be giving any more arms sold or money. It needs to stop. It needs to be conditional. It's ridiculous that it's going on unchecked and unfettered and we're sitting around and talking how upset we are while we hemorrhage billions of dollars. It is stunning that that argument was made on MSNBC, but I'm very happy to hear it. And I think everything that she said there was correct.

Now, today, President Joe Biden had a what's described as tense phone call with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Nothing has really come out of that conversation. Despite the media reports, despite the hype, there are still zero conditions on the military aid and the weapons that Biden plans to to transfer over to Israel, he basically said, you know, if you don't do X, Y and Z, if you don't do more to protect civilians, well, then there's a possibility that we could have conditions for the weapons. But that's really not changing anything, really. Like wagging, more finger wagging isn't going to change anything that's happening on the ground in Gaza. It's going to do nothing to change Netanyahu's mind. There's no amount of carrots that are going to work. At this point,

I think Biden needs to use his leverage and condition that military aid already on, you know, how the IDF carries out this war. But to be honest with you at this point, I don't even trust them to carry out this war in a way that's, you know, mindful of the civilians jank. I want them to implement a ceasefire at this point. And yes, I think Israel should have all of the defensive capability necessary to protect themselves from a potential terrorist attack in the future. But at this point, they are doing, you know, they're carrying out a war in a way that is counterproductive to Israel and the

Israeli people. I have no doubt that this is radicalizing people in the Middle East. Yeah. So first I'm going to explain in a minute why you're seeing this public display of disagreeing with Biden from some sources that you might not see it from. before. And before that, I'm gonna do two things. One is, when you get a chance at the end of the video, rewind and watch the face of the MSNBC anchor when she starts criticizing Biden and Israel. I was like, oh my God, like he didn't know what to do. He was like in mid-panic and then they had to go to like extra videos. They cover up his panic face. Look, he thinks it's going to be normal. She says it. He's like, oh boy. Oh, oh boy. Look at the shock on his face.

He's looking at, he's like, oh, we got to change the topic. I know, I know. We can't criticize Biden or Israel. What are you doing? This is MSNBC. So I don't know if she just lost her contractor. But anyway, but I want to give one of the first things notes here to one of our members, art guy.

He said, Joe's gone from sternly worded letters to tense conversations. One of these months, he might actually take action to save lives. And that's really the heart of this matter, right? And I love doing the show with members, t-y-t.com slash team to be one of us. Links in the description box. And we love doing the show with you guys. Okay, so why is our guy so right? Look, guys, now they're sending out Jill Biden and they're putting out leaks.

Oh, Jill Biden is actually against this. Senator Coons, which will show you in a second, one of the top allies of, if not the top ally of Biden in the Senate, he's concerned. Everybody's concerned. There's a lot of tense words and tense this and sternly worded that. No, cut the funding, otherwise none of this matters. Netanyahu last, by the way, now that after this tense conversation, cue Netanyahu doing a press conference and slapping Biden across the face in three,

two, one, because that's what he does every time. So he'll come out and be like, yeah, Biden and I talk, I'm not going to listen to a goddamn thing. He says, give me the goddamn money, Joe. And Joe, like, oh, yes, yes, right? So now I want to show you Senator Coons and tell you why he's saying this. I think we're at the point where President Biden has said, and I have said, and others have said, if Benjamin Netanyahu Prime Minister were to order the IDF into Rafa at scale, they were to drop thousand pound bombs and send in a battalion to go after Hamas

and make no provision for civilians or for humanitarian aid that I would vote to condition aid to Israel. I've never said that before. I've never been here before. I've been a strong supporter of Israel the whole time I've served in Congress. We just appropriated another $3.3 billion of support in the last appropriations bill we did. The challenge is to make it clear that we support the Israeli people, that we want to and will continue to have a strong and close relationship with Israel, but that the tactics by which the current prime minister is making these decisions don't reflect the best values of Israel or of the United States. So guys, if that had happened in the beginning of the conflict, it would have been the most shocking thing that I've seen in American politics.

Because Chris Coons is as corporate, conservative, a Democrat, as you will find. He's also from Delaware, his top ally of Joe Biden. I've never seen someone like that say that we might cut the funding of Israel. Never, never. When Senator Van Hollen said it way, way earlier, I was shocked by that and gave him a lot of credit. But this, I give no credit to. Wait, why, if I've never seen it before from a guy like him, why am I giving no credit? Because this is Biden sending out allies and doing leaks to say to people, oh, I'm thinking

about cutting the funding. Oh, I'm thinking about it. Because he's beginning to realize these stern conversations are, people are on to that one-trick pony. And he's beginning to look like an idiot and a jackass and a weakling and pathetic, right? So now he's like, oh, I might, I might cut the funding. Why? Because he's not going to cut the funding. So he's trying every trick there is before doing the undoable. He cannot cut the funding. It would be shocking beyond belief. Don't get me wrong. Could he cut it if he wanted to? Yeah, he could cut it tomorrow. Done, right? But there's no chance he's going to deny, defy the donors and actually cut the funding. Look, honestly, Crystal Ball made a really good point. I think this even goes beyond the donors for Biden.

I think that this is a deep ideological principle of his. And I think he's, I don't know, I don't know what era he's living in, but he genuinely views Israel an incredibly powerful country, a wealthy country, as this small, weak, vulnerable country that absolutely needs America's support in any, in all cases, regardless of what its government does. And if we don't support them, that's the end of their survival. And I'm just not buying that argument. Most people see the situation for what it is. And honestly, the best person to listen to, to really figure out

what the Biden administration is genuinely thinking about doing is, you know, John Kirby. In fact, let's read from Kirby right now. Let's go to the very last graphic here. So White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said the administration was outraged by the strike, you know, that killed the international humanitarian aid workers and insists that is, I know, I know, just let me finish this by the strike and insists that Israel be more careful in its operations against Hamas. At the same time, Kirby made clear the United States wouldn't use military aid as leverage and hang some sort of condition around Israel's neck. We're still going to make sure that they can defend themselves, Kirby told reporters. So that's all you need to know. I'm not really interested in, you know, eating up the corporate media hype about how, ooh, tough talk from Biden during a phone call. It lasted 30 minutes. I don't care. I want action. And we're not going to get it. And John Kirby has made it abundantly clear that we're not going to get it. Yeah. So I want to explain a couple of things.

you guys. First of all, Joe Biden has taken $5.2 million from APAC during his career. And that's just APAC. It doesn't even include other groups that are aligned with APAC. And it doesn't include dark money. So God knows how much he actually took. But I know, Jank, but what's the point of taking that money if you're not going to win reelection? Because going along with APAC is so deeply unpopular during this war. It just doesn't make any sense. The reason why you take the money so you can buy the ads and win reelection. No, this is chapter four of my book, Justice, is coming. The Democrats lost sight of the, like they were, it started out by saying the ends justify

the means, right? But now they've lost track of the ends. Like they're so obsessed with the donors and pleasing them that their entire DNA is structured around what am I going to do for the donors? What am I going to do? They don't even think about it anymore. And they don't think of it in terms of donors. They just think of it as in this is what a politician in America is supposed to do.

They're supposed to only, only serve the donors. So it doesn't even occur to him that he might lose the election if he has less money. They think more money equals win, except Hillary couldn't have more money. She had twice as much money and lost. Joe Biden barely won last time with, you know, 43,000 votes in three swing states. He's trailing so badly now, even though he has a giant money lead. And part of the reason I tend to say that is because I'm positive. Look at the group thing.

You'll see it in all the articles in the past and going future, going forward into the future. A lot of the mainstream media is, and we covered it even earlier this week, still talking about it like, no, Donald Trump's losing because he's not raising as much money as Joe Biden. He's losing grassroots support in the donor base, and he doesn't have the big donors. And Joe Biden has the big donors. So he's definitely going to win. These morons haven't figured it out at all. They lost, they're blinded by their greed and their corruption. So no, like Joe Biden might have some relics left over from the 1970s and 90s.

And he thinks, oh, Israel is this poor little country. And oh my God, they only have nukes and they've only massacred at will, right? No, that's, yes, that's a part of his thinking, yes, he's frozen in amber. Yes, he's frozen caveman president. But overall, 95% of it is, what will I do? And in fact, I will say this, I think the reason that Chris Coons and Jill Biden leaks and all of these things are happening right now is because he's partly trying to convince his donors to give him permission to cut funding to Israel. But I don't think they'll give him that permission. And guys, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, not just about APAC or the Israeli lobby.

There's defense contractors, there's every kind of donor in the world, and they completely own both the Democratic and Republican parties, completely own them. So they're never, ever going to turn around unless the donors want them to turn around, and which in this case is nearly impossible. Well, maybe they need to lose to learn that donors aren't everything. Well, Hillary already lost, and she never learned. The Democratic Party didn't learn, the establishment media didn't learn, because the corruption is now in their deal. DNA, they don't know how to do it any other way. Well, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we've got more news on Gaza, but we're going to focus on Donald Trump and his statements in regard to how Israel is carrying

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You guys are amazing for doing that, and we appreciate you. Anna. I wanted to mention something that broke a little while ago. So I hadn't seen this until right now, and I'm sure you had neither, Jank. So I wanted to just, I guess, correct the record. We'll see how this plays out. But Barack Ravid is tweeting that the Israeli security cabinet

has approved the opening of the Erez crossing with the Gaza Strip for the first time since October 7th in order to allow more humanitarian aid to go in. And that's according to Israeli officials that Ravid spoke to. So we'll see how that is carried out, whether it is carried out and whether there's enough humanitarian aid that goes into the Gaza Strip. But you know, you had earlier mentioned that they had, you know, blocked that crossing. And you were right about that And about an hour ago, it was reported that they're planning on opening it. All right, God bless. That's positive development.

We'll definitely take it. It means that they will starve a little less quickly. But that is definitely a good development. All right. Let's move on to the right wing side of the aisle when it comes to the war in Gaza. You are still standing 100% with Israel. You achieved the Abraham Accords, which was the first peace deal since Sadat. And so are you still 100% with Israel and what's your advice to Netanyahu beyond?

Get it over with in a hurry. Well, that's all the advice you can give. I mean, that's the advice. You've got to get it over with and you have to get back to normalcy. And I'm not sure that I'm loving the way they're doing it because you've got to have victory. You have to have a victory. And it's taking a long time. Donald Trump dodged the question of whether he firmly stands behind Israel 100%.

And even criticize the way that Israel is carrying out its war on Gaza during an interview with conservative host Hugh Hewitt. Now, Hewitt asked Trump about the comments that he had made previously during an interview with a conservative Israeli outlet. These were comments that he made last week on Israel Yaom. And Trump basically told them, quote, you have to finish up your war. You have to get it done. We have to get to peace. And so the correspondent Ariel Kahana wrote that what Trump said to him and his colleague shocked us to our core and left them with the conclusion that both major U.S. presidential candidates, this is the most delusional thing I've read today. Trump and President Joe Biden are turning their rhetorical backs on Israel.

I mean, what would what would Biden need to do to make it clear that he favors what the Israeli government wants so much that he's willing to risk losing his reelection in order to provide more weapons to Israel? What at what point did Biden turn his back on the Israeli people or the Israeli government? Like, how delusional are these people? I just, I got stuck on that, Jank. I'm sorry, I know this story is supposed to be about Trump and whether he's loyal enough to Israel. And we'll get back to that. But it doesn't matter. Like, you can literally do everything that the Israeli government wants.

But if you offer some mild critique about the slaughter of innocent civilians, Oh, you're turning your back on Israel. It's ridiculous. Yeah, well, there's a couple of things there. I mean, so when you talk about the Israeli right-wing zealots or their supporters, first of all, they don't even think Palestinians are human. So they think it's not a big deal. I don't, what's the hubbub about?

So of course we killed 30 times the number of people Hamas did. Of course, a great majority of them are women and children. But why would anyone care? They're Palestinians, they're dirt. dirt and they think that they're all animals and savages and terrorists. So I'm not talking about all of Israel. I'm talking about the right wing zealotry that's going on. So to them, it's like asking and not, you know, I'm not supposed to use German

analogies, okay, but if you ask the German in the 1930s or 40s, you know, what, why are you doing this to the Jews? They would have said, who cares? They're not even human. Why, why would you care? Right? So they just wouldn't, they don't understand the question. So that's why they're confused. They're like, and the second thing is, is they have an enormous sense of entitlement. Yes, that's, I think that's what's triggering me so much with that comment. Yeah, they're like, no, you're supposed to be our to our taxpayer funded weapons. That is what they feel entitled to. A hundred percent.

And I get that Biden's the president and he has a lot of power to use our resources to provide provide military aid for Israel, but I hope these far right wingers in Israel are acutely aware of the fact that there is a growing percentage of Americans who do not think that Israel is entitled to our resources. Yeah, no, and their entitlement is so deep. And to be fair to them, it has been that way for at least the last 50 years. A right wing zealot in Israel says, shut up American politician and do as you're told. And the American politician says, I'm so sorry, sir, yes, sir, of course, sir. I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, yes, sir, absolutely, sir.

So when they're not groveling, guys, like, I don't get it. You're still giving me all the money. You're letting me do whatever the hell I want. You're letting me murder every Palestinian that I want to murder, but you're daring to complain a tiny bit? And they're just shell-shocked by it. They just don't get it. So, look, I think that the Trump thing is very important for a couple of reasons.

Number one, the right wing base is turning. Trump is a guy who, like, we literally do it in the middle of speeches. He's like, he's not at all religious. Remember the funny Corinthians two speech that he gave? And when the audience, when he was confused at the audience reaction, he looked around to the religious, Christian religious audience, and he's like, we like that, don't we? Right?

And I wrote in the book about how he basically tested on conservative radio, radio pro or anti-immigration and realize, oh my God, the Republicans are super anti-immigration, and that's how he developed his position. So he's looking at his own base now and seeing that they're turning on Israel. So that's why he's saying, let's get this over with, not good, not good, okay? And that's a giant development, because look, Trump has a thousand problems. I'm massively against them, okay? But the one thing he has that Biden doesn't have is Biden will forever take orders. He's a servant. He's pathetically weak. And everyone knows that, right? Whereas Trump, if you get on his bad side, usually for something nonsensical, or he thinks

it endangers his chances, no, he'll be done with you. And that's a scary proposition for Israel. So Hewitt basically tried to get Trump to walk back his previous statements, where he was a little critical of how Israel's carrying out the war. Trump initially seemed like he was willing to play ball, but then he doubled down. So let's take a look at that. You gave an interview recently to Israel Hayam, which was characterized by many on the left as being critical of Israel. Then Jonathan Tobin writes this morning, wait a minute, that's not right.

Trump was the friendliest president ever for Israel. Have you been mischaracterizing your advice to Israel? Well, you know, with the fake news, you never know what you're going to get. You can say something very plainly, and they'll turn it around. They'll turn around everything. That's why they're fake. And what I said very plainly is get it over with and let's get back to peace and stop killing people. And that's a very simple statement.

Get it over with. You have to get back to normalcy and peace. The whole world is blowing up with this idiot president we have. He's an idiot. He's the dumbest president we've ever had. Now, here's where things get super. super interesting. Because remember, the publication that we're talking about is Israel Heyom. And apparently it's owned by a GOP mega donor, Miriam Aidelson. The Aidelsons have funded

Donald Trump's campaigns to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. So she might not take too kindly to the comments that you just heard from Trump. Trump also criticized Israel for the way that they were carrying out the war and more specifically their PR strategy during this interview with Hewitt. Let's watch. I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night they're releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn't be releasing tapes like that. They're doing, that's why they're losing the PR war. Israel is absolutely losing the PR war. That's how I read your interview. I read your interview of saying they're losing the PR war. They've got to stop releasing bad video and win the war by going into Ratha.

They're releasing the most heinous, most horrible tapes of buildings fall. down and people are imagining there's a lot of people in those buildings or people in those buildings and they don't like it. And I don't know why they release, you know, wartime shots like that. I guess it makes them look tough. But to me, it doesn't make them look tough. They're losing the PR war. They're losing it big. The reason why people are horrified by that kind of footage is because there typically are people in those buildings, which is why we have a massive, million death toll in Gaza. But I mean, look, he was still pretty critical of how Israel is carrying this out. But it seems like for Trump, it's not so much, you guys are being too brutal and

you're breaking international laws. For Trump, it's more like, hey, maybe you guys should be a little more secretive of what you're doing. Maybe try to prevent people from finding out just how brutal the IDF has been toward the Palestinian people. Yeah, look, I'm three quarters against Trump on this. But I'm shocked to find out there's a quarter of me that has a tiny bit of hope. So let me explain. No, first of all, is he generally a monster in how he discusses this? Of course, look at him. He's very clear.

He's like, I don't like the PR. He's not saying, hey, I'm worried about those poor babies that are being killed or the grandmothers whose skulls were crushed when the building collapsed in on them or, you know, et cetera. He doesn't care about the actual human beings at all, at all. He's just worried about how does this look for Trump? If I support Israel and they've got bad PR, then I've got bad PR. I don't want bad PR, no, okay? And then he says something big like just finish it. And you think he's doing that by accident?

No, that one they thought through. And that's why he keeps repeating and he's careful to repeat just the same words. Just finish this already. Now you could interpret that if you're a zealot right winger as like, yeah, finish all the Palestinians. And so then they're happy. Or if you're anti-war and you're a Republican or an independent, they can think, oh, he means finish up the war because we're not, because we're against war. And they're happy.

So he's being a typical politician in that sense here. Now, Hewitt's trying to get him to say, now, you're 100% with Israel, aren't you? And he's, but he won't say it. And that's interesting, okay? Now, don't get too encouraged because I'm not. Miriam Edelson, he can take a shot at her paper. because she hasn't contributed to him yet. And this might be a way of pressuring her to give him another $100 million.

Because she hasn't given in this cycle. Remember, her husband passed away. It was her husband who gave him $100 million in 2016 and 2020. But I will guarantee you this. If Mirian Adelson gives Trump money a significant amount, Trump will turn around 100% and say, well, then Yahoo can do whatever he wants. We've got to protect Israel. Israel is our ally.

Who cares? These are terrorist animals that you deserve to be slaughtered, right? He's just waiting for the money. We've seen him do this before. Remember when he was president? He said, oh, the NRA pushes these guys around. And I'm not going to, I will protect you from the school shootings. The next day he has a meeting with the NRA, they promised him a check. He comes down and goes, we're not doing anything. No, it's nonsense. Left wingers want to take away your guns. That's it. No, nothing at all.

He just wants the money, right? But on the off chance, he doesn't get bribed enough to his satisfaction, or he's already president and he doesn't think he needs them. There is, he's got the kind of personality where he at least can tell Netanyahu, no, you're not the boss of me. I'm the boss of you, which Joe Biden would never, ever say in a million years. He would say, thank you, sir. What else would you like me to carry out for you, sir? So in this parade of horrible, like the worst possible options here, at this point, I think Biden is slightly worse than Trump.

Not slightly, no, he's definitely worse than Trump on Israel. He's the one that's funding the genocide. So Trump isn't in office, Biden is. You keep funding the genocide. It's 100% on you. I have no doubt that Trump would do the same. I would bet money on it. No, I'm sure.

There's no way of proving that because he's not in power right now. But yeah, I mean, we can speculate. Anna, you're absolutely right. And I don't want this to, anybody to misinterpret this, I think that there's, that Trump has any chance of being a good guy. No, I'm just saying Biden is definitively wrong. Biden is doing nothing except giving Israel more money to slaughter more Palestinians. So you can't get any more wrong than Joe Biden.

So congratulations, you win Joe Biden. Joe Biden on being a bigger monster in this particular case. And by the way, if you're going to run an election on, you have to vote for me because the other guy's a monster, you probably shouldn't fund a genocide because that makes you a definitive and indisputable monster. When we come back from the break, we're going to move off the war on Gaza and focus on some of what's happening domestically, including two members of Congress who have just been subpoenaed in a criminal case, potential criminal case.

We've got that and more coming up. Don't miss it. Stop. Mooges, please stop. Look, I'm not saying anything. The people have spoken, though. Okay, Casper, go ahead. All right. Well, we've got some big news in the election interference situation. So, Arizona's attorney general has subpoenaed two congressmen in the state of Arizona. That's Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar, two individuals that I've got no love for. And the reason why they're being subpoenaed is due to their role in the fake electors scheme to overturn the state's 20-20 election results.

Now, as a result, they will have to testify in front of a grand jury, which is a contentious part of all of this. We'll get to that in just a moment. But don't get too excited, because according to Politico, which broke this story, there is no indication that Arizona Attorney General Chris Mays is planning on handing criminal charges to either one of these representatives. The two are being subpoenaed due to their involvement in the strategizing and planning to basically reverse the results of the election with the fake elector's scheme. And they were in communication with the Trump camp as they were coordinating this. Now, both tried to challenge the state's presidential electors on January 6th, 2021. When Congress met to

certify the results of the electoral college, Gosar was mounting that challenge. At the same moment, a pro-Trump mob broke into the Capitol and halted proceedings. Further, both lawmakers attended a White House meeting with Trump on December 21st of 2020 to strategize for how then Vice President Mike Pence could block the certification of the election results, according to the January 6th Select Committee. So Biggs also reportedly contacted Mark Meadows, including after Election Day 2020, when Biggs pushed board the state legislature to overrule the results of the states of the state where Biden won. And then Biggs also told Meadows that Trump should not concede

to Biden, whatever he does, don't concede. And Biggs reportedly helped another Arizona Republican with the fake elector scheme. Arizona was one of the seven states, of course, where Trump and his allies assembled a slate of alternate or fraudulent electors to contest Biden's victory. In recent weeks, Mays's office has sent out a wave of grand jury subpoenas. She also has required Arizona Republicans who falsely claimed to be the state's presidential electors to assert their Fifth Amendment rights in front of the grand jury, which is actually an unusual step that has generated criticism from some former prosecutors. And the reason why, Jank, is because when you plead the fifth before a grand jury, apparently the jury does not like that. They don't

favor that. Pleading the fifth is not an admission of wrongdoing, but grand jurors who watch someone invoke the amendment might unfairly assume the person is guilty. And so a criminal defense lawyer in Phoenix told political, quote, is it weird? Yeah, I would say this is highly unusual. Is it permissible, meaning having them plead the fifth before the grand jury? Yes, is it a good idea? Definitely not. Curious what you think about that, Jank, along with your thoughts on the subpoenas and how at this late date, the attorney general of the state has decided to really aggressively pursue this investigation. Yeah. So first of all, Well, if someone pleads a fifth, I assume they're guilty and I think that it's fair to assume

they're guilty. So if that shocks your liberal conscience, sorry, but I believe that my whole life, I think there's way better ways of preventing torture by the police or abuse by the police once you're in detention. This whole idea of like, I don't have to say anything, and if I don't say anything, you should assume I'm innocent. No, I assume you're guilty. If you were innocent, you'd tell me why you were innocent. So I know, I know. People hate what I say that, but it's just, that's reality. And you know who unfortunately agrees with me, but ironic in this case is Donald Trump. Donald Trump

has said many, many times that if you take the Fifth Amendment, everybody knows you're guilty, you're obviously guilty, right? He agrees with me, so that was kind of funny that I put it in his voice, but anyways, but until of course he was charged with crimes and then he started taking the Fifth Amendment ad nauseum hundreds of times, which by the way proves my point and his point. He's obviously guilty, okay? So same thing in this case, if you ask me. In terms of the prosecutor, this one might be relatively new. So we'd have to look into when she became the attorney general in Arizona because the other attorney generals, including, of course, Merrick Garland at the national level, they purposely sat on all these cases.

They didn't want to prosecute Trump. Their cases are not political, in my opinion, but the timing of the cases are political. They were not, it didn't look like they were going to prosecute Trump until he decided to run for re-election. That's my opinion. Again, if you want to get angry about that, you can, but look at the timing in every one of the other cases. And you'll see they waited, waited, waited, oh, he is running. Okay, now let's try to prosecute him. Otherwise, they were going to let him get away with it because he's one of the elites. And in this case, look, guys, fascinating things happening on the right again, okay? Politics and ideology in the political spectrum does not shift that often. But right now, it's starting to be chaotic. Because,

and I know that this is anecdotal, but I'm beginning to see it way more. In fact, I never saw it before, and now I'm seeing it all over the place. So I wrote it on social media today about how, you know, this dumb ass Donald Trump, if he hadn't trying to steal the 2020 election and hadn't lied about losing, right now he'd be winning in a landslide against Joe Biden. He's already winning in six out of seven swing states. And the main reason people are independents are concerned about him and Democrats are so nervous about him and we'll go out to vote against him is because he tried to end democracy last time.

And because, and he did it not through the riots. That was a part of it. The main thing was this fake elector plot. So and so but the thing that's surprising is now when I write that on social media, a whole bunch of right wingers are starting to say, yeah, I know, I'm really frustrated with him. Like you just, will you just shut up already? Right? Like, because people aren't, some people obviously love Donald Trump.

And if you say one unkind thing, that's it, they'll hate you forever, right? But there's also a pretty significant chunk. of Republicans and definitely of independence who think, look, I like him because he's anti-establishment, and I can't stand Joe Biden. I can't stand the Democrats, right? So I'm gonna vote against them. But God damn, just shut up already, man, right? And I hadn't seen that before, but that is beginning to happen on the right wing. And I think that maybe, maybe some of them are beginning to see that, yeah, of course he lost the election last time around. And of course he's a narcissistic cry baby. And yes, it was a fake elector plot, which is in a coup against

America. All right, we got to take a break. Let's do that. And we come back for the second hour of the show, we've got a lot more news to get into, including RFK Jr. alleging that Joe Biden is more of a threat to democracy. But did he really say that? A lot of debate about it. That and more coming up, don't miss it. I'm going to be. I'm