The Young Turks - The Last Waltz - May 1, 2025

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

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You're listening to the Young Turks, the online news show. Make sure to follow and rate our show with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five stars. You're awesome, thank you. All right, welcome to the Young Turks, Jake Uger, Anna Kasparian with you guys. We're both here at the same time in the studio, so God bless, that's awesome. We're psyched about it. All right, we got a bunch of amazing stories. Mike Walsh, down goes, Mike Lowe's.

Hold on, let me save it, let me save it, okay? And he doesn't down. Sideways goes Mike Wals, we'll get to it. So then Israel's starving the children of Gaza, of course. We'll tell you what percentage of the land that they have taken in Gaza while they're doing self-defense several years later. Okay, so a lot more to come on that. Huge turmoil, turmoil overall in the Trump administration. And then Carville and David Hogg throw down, finally in the same room, okay?

With a little twist. Yeah, a little twisty twist. Also twisting twist on a daily wire, Ben Shapiro or Matt Walsh. What's going on there is a little bit of drums? Interesting. And then at the end of the show, two fun things for you guys. One is we're gonna do the Belichick story and on the on t.yat.com, we have a fun poll. Should we judge Bill Belichick for dating a 24 year old?

Yes. Okay, all right, hey listen, that's her vote. I don't know what my vote is, I don't know what your vote is, but go vote at t.yt.com and we're reported at out of the show. And finally, instead of the bonus episode today, Ojetta's back. He's joined the rebellion. Wait till you hear about his race in North Carolina. You're going to love it. That's at 8 o'clock Eastern available for everyone. So let's get started. Casper, what do you got? Let's begin with the big news in regard to Mike Waltz and what was kind of thought of as a shakeup in Trump's administration, but really not that much of a shakeup. Let's get into it.

Walls would be the first high profile departure from the Trump administration if this proves to be true. Now, it's quite clear that just like many things in the Trump administration, the foreign policy front is not going well. The war in Ukraine is still raging. The situation in Gaza is awful. Their tensions between the U.S. and China. White House National Security Advisor Mike Waltz and his deputy, Alex Wong, were alleged to have been leaving the Trump White House. house as of this morning. However, as that story developed, we've learned that he's actually been tapped for a different role within the Trump administration. He will be serving as ambassador to the United Nations. And in the meantime, it appears that Secretary of State

Marco Rubio will be the interim national security advisor until he's replaced, maybe. We'll see, Jake. Sideways goes Mike Walls. Sideways goes Mike Walls. So he's not down and he's not out, but he's hurt dog. Don't ask him if he's all right. Now, the really interesting thing about the story is why? Because a bunch of neocons, like, were brought into the Pentagon and people against the war with Iran were taken out of the Pentagon. But Mike Walts is a neocon, and now he's taken out of the national security advisor role. What in the world is going on? Let's try to find out. Yeah, I'm just going to say it is very unclear, but we're going to give you the facts and the details as we know them

at this moment. Obviously, this is a story that could further develop. But this shakeup does obviously impact others as well. As I mentioned, Waltz will be the ambassador to the United Nations. And then Marco Rubio, who's the current Secretary of State, will be the Secretary of State. He will remain in that role, but will also serve as the interim national security advisor. So here's what Trump wrote on Truth Social in making this announcement today. I will We'll be nominating Mike Walts to be the next United States ambassador to the United Nations from his time in uniform on the battlefield in Congress. And as my national security advisor, Mike Walts has worked hard to put our nation's interests

first. Has he? I know he will do the same in his new role. In the interim, Secretary of State Marco Rubio will serve as national security advisor while continuing his strong leadership at the State Department. Together, we will continue to fight tirelessly to make America and the world safe again. Okay, so reports indicate that Laura Lumer had a hand in this allegedly. So apparently she was in Donald Trump's ear, essentially advising him against keeping Mike Walts as part of his administration, arguing that he isn't loyal enough. She allegedly told Trump in this recent meeting at the Oval Office that he needs to get rid of Waltz and other aids.

who she believes are insufficiently loyal to the MAGA agenda, the Make America Great Agenda or the America First Agenda, but the embattled National Security Advisor was also under siege from personalities such as Lumer, who had been complaining to administration officials that she'd been excluded from the vetting process for National Security Council aides. In her view, Waltz relied too much on neocons, referring to hawkish neocons within the Republican Party, as well as others who Lumer argued were not MAGA enough types. Now, Lumer is a confusing figure because of the fact that she is honestly a staunch supporter of Israel. She's very much Israel first and wants a war with Iran. So the idea that she's against

neocons doesn't really make much sense. But make no mistake about it, Walt absolutely is a In fact, Dana Bash from CNN, who's very much a supporter of Israel, seemed a little bit alarmed by the news today. Let me give you a little taste of what I mean. First of all, Mike Waltz is a very serious person. She said that with a straight face. She said that with a straight face. Now what was she referring to?

Why is Mike Walt such a serious person? Let's take a look. First of all, Mike Waltz is a very serious person. He is a former Green Beret, he's a four-time Bronze Star winner. That all happened, that service, military services obviously well before he ran for Congress. As part of his sort of approach to the world, it was much more hawkish historically than anybody around President Trump in the current form. And so my understanding, and I'm curious what you all are hearing, is that never mind

Signalgate, it was that very fundamental mistrust of him and skepticism of him and his perspective about the world that was also problematic from the start. It absolutely was. And I think Signalgate was the reason for his departure, but not really what led up to it. He is a hawk. There's no doubt about it. There have also been some rumors indicating that in the future he will be replaced by Steve Whitkoff, who of course is Donald Trump's special envoy to the Middle East. I should note that he is not loved by the Israeli government. In fact, Israel's been fighting pretty hard and lobbying behind the scenes to get rid of Steve Whitkoff entirely because of the fact that he pressured Israel into agreeing to a temporary

ceasefire with Hamas, which lasted about two months. I don't know if Whitkoff is really going to be tapped for this role, but that would be fascinating. Yeah. So this is as confusing as it gets. So normally what we do on the show is we tell you, oh, here's what's actually happening behind the scenes and we'll lay out why. And then we have the rule that clarifies almost all legislation and what happens in government, which has followed the money. In this case, I have no idea what's going on. And I almost never say that. Because how can you get rid of the anti-war guys in the Pentagon and then get rid of Mike Walt's next, who's definitely pro war. How does that make any sense? I don't get it.

And then Laura Lumer is Israel first, but she's talking about taking out neocons from inside the administration. It makes no sense. That doesn't make any sense at all. So, I mean, one possibility is Laura Lumer is just taking out America first guys, pretending that they're, you know, neocons, just because neocons sounds bad. So she's slapping that label on. But second of all, why is Laura Lumer making decisions about who works in the U.S. government? I think that's the biggest question, honestly, right? Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. Like, what qualification does she have?

Why does she have so much influence or sway over Trump? Or more importantly, Jank, what if that's just a cover story, right? Like we don't know for sure. Yeah, so. And she did take credit, by the way. Sorry to interrupt you, but she did to take credit today in regard to what's happening to Mike Walts, Lumer appeared to take credit in a post on social media writing scalp. Hopefully the rest of the people who were set to be fired, but were given promotions

at the NSC under Waltz also depart, Luma wrote in another post. Go ahead, Jane. So in that post, I tried to interact with her because I don't get it. I'm like, are you Israel first or are you against neocons? So I'd love some clarification because here her past is Israel first, but maybe she's changed her mind. I mean, that's a very, very doubtful. But that's why I said, and then somebody wrote like, oh, what are you bothering to talk to a loon like Laura Lumer for?

That shows you're not a serious journalist. Are you guys kidding me? The cover story is that Laura Lumer is making the final decisions on who gets fired at the White House. So is that crazy? Absolutely, right? But is it true? It seems like it might be true. So then I've got to ask Laura Lumer.

What's your actual agenda if you're, I don't know, the vice president or whatever you are, right? Yeah, and want to know something insane. So if you guys can recall, you know, some time ago, Laura Lumer met with Donald Trump in the Oval Office to persuade him to fire other individuals, right? That included Thomas Boudre, a senior director for legislative affairs. He was also Waltz's legislative director when Waltz was serving in the House of Representatives. David Feith, a senior director for technology and national security. So she's in the level office trying to convince Trump to fire these people. Trump did fire these people.

In the room was Mike Waltz. So Mike Waltz is basically sitting there listening to the woman who ultimately might have determined what his fate was within the Trump administration. So part of the point reason I say that is, is Luma representing other voices? Right? Because there's, how could, I mean, I know Trump's nuts, but really like one of the most unhinged right wingers, you're going to bring in like some blogger or whatever she is and go, okay, who would you like to fire in the National Security Council? And to make the national security advisor sit there in shame and humiliation as this rando blogger lists all of his aides that should be fired. And then the president listens to her. She's that powerful? Nah. There's something going on.

Something else behind that, right? So I mean, look, guys, I'll give you a funny example. Like Biden would never listen to any left winger ever, right, online. Like you might listen to a New York Times reporter or a MSNBC host or something. But this is the equivalent of, and I'm almost feeling bad for Jimmy to make this analogy, but if Biden called in Jimmy Dora and was like, who do you think I should fire the National Security Council? We would all be like, what is going on? I mean.

Are you serious? Right? Like that is so beyond the pale of anything that could possibly happen. And I think Laura's more unhinged than Jimmy is. I mean, look, I think that there are some areas, and it takes a lot to say this, but I think there are some areas in which Jimmy would actually be good in advising the president on, you know, foreign policy or who to keep and who to get rid of on foreign policy, especially pertaining to Middle East policy. Yeah, no, I'm just, yeah, look, we might agree on Israel or some other things, no problem, right? I'm just giving that as like, I know that on the left, people would find that to be the most outrageous thing

they'd ever heard. And this is more outrageous than that, right? So that can't be the story. There's like, there's now all sorts of cover stories out there that make no sense at all. One day we're gonna find out. But the last thing I'll say about this is, meanwhile, mainstream media is like, oh, let's see, oh, a blogger of course has this much power, I don't question that at all, okay? And then people on both sides are getting fired, but I know, it must be just an internal

Guys, come on, this is like Israel versus America. Let's do a little digging, let's do a little investigating, right? Let's ask some tough questions and figure out what's actually going on. Yeah, and so, and the reason we say about Dana Bash is, so look, she's got an interesting career full of different things. But lately, you know, I think she's gotten entrenched into more of a pro-Israel position, partly because people went to her house. And I think, you know, she got mad about that and dug herself in further, etc. But like when people like her, and it's not just about her, just in mainstream media, when they see serious people, right? They mean like the professionals who believe that

the status quo is awesome and the establishment is the greatest thing ever and war is fantastic and Israel should always be listened to. Israel is in that list of things we always do, right? And so the people who have ruined this country with the things we always do are the serious people, right? So that's as far as their analysis goes. Let's be honest, come on guys, CNN, New York Times. You're gonna do a real piece. Okay, this is Israel First versus America first.

Everyone on the right wing knows it. Tons of people on the left wing knows it. The only people who don't seem to know it is national media reporters covering the White House and Congress. Come on, that's embarrassing. And to be honest with you, I think it's the most interesting development within the Republican Party ever. I mean that, ever.

Because ever since I've been alive, ever, the only Republican party I've known is the hawkish pro-war party, the neo-conservative party. Yeah. And so we'll see what happens. And now all of a sudden you see this absorption of neoconservatives within the Democratic party. And it's just very, it should be worrying to Democratic voters, but unfortunately they're a little asleep at the wheel on that issue.

I can't help us say one last thing. It's amazing what the national media misses. So I remember a million years ago, George W. Bush comes out with a policy, foreign policy while he's running for president that is diametrically opposed to his dad's, George H.W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, do not attack a country that did not attack you, okay? Do not attack sovereign countries. That was the new world order. George W. Bush has the exact opposite policy. Right. And they're both Republican presidents that follow one another. And the press is like, I don't see it. How did you not see that their policies

are diametrically opposed? And so right now, I'm not on America first side. I'm not on is certainly not on Israel first side. But I'm deeply curious as to what's going on inside the White House. And the fact that there's pushback against Israel first is kind of unprecedented. Yeah. And so, and by the way, those neocons that are moving to the Democratic Party, has anyone in mainstream media even noted it? Oh, the guys who started the Iraq war, the ones that the Democrats said they were dead set against,

half of them, three quarters of them are now housed inside the Democratic Party. Right. that? It's just embarrassing. So I want to just talk about one more foreign policy-related story before we go to break. And this one has to do with the signing of the minerals deal. Let's get to it. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. I'm not telling you.

Because you're in no position to dictate that. Remember this. It appears certain that no deal could ever come after this. President Zelensky left leaving the minerals deal on the table. Then came this surprise meeting. Trump and Zelensky were meeting at the Pope's funeral last week. And today, Ukrainians have heard the warmest language Washington has spoken since President Trump came to power. After a long and tumultuous negotiation process, the United States and Ukraine have officially

signed a minerals deal that allows the U.S. to share future revenue from Ukraine's natural resources. Now some are kind of trying to present this as a major loss for Donald Trump, since there were some important concessions that he made in getting this deal signed. But I don't see it that way. I actually think this is better than what was a initially agreed upon between the United States and Ukraine. And the reason why I say that is because Ukraine isn't going to be fleeced the way it would have if Donald Trump, you know, insisted on the initial terms of the first deal. Now, the current deal was supposed to be signed all the way, or the initial deal, I should say,

was supposed to be signed all the way back in February when Trump and Zelensky had that fiery oval office meeting where J.D. Vance, unfortunately, did not help the situation and, you know, devolved further with his involvement, but Trump in that conversation accused the Ukrainian president of being a dictator. Now last month, the agreement dubbed the United States Ukraine Reconstruction Investment Fund finally came to fruition. And it does create a U.S. controlled investment fund that would receive revenue from Ukraine's vast natural resources. Right, Cenk? Now, so I'm curious before I get to the deal, the deal itself and the terms within in that deal what your thoughts are?

So I hated that we were trying to randomly rob the Ukrainians of their natural resources before we agreed to help them broker a good ceasefire and negotiations with Russia. And we made that our top priority. First, we got to get paid. And one of those precious minerals is lithium, which goes into the batteries in Tesla, right? So we've made a deal, but now I think I might be pretty happy with it. So I'll tell you why after you get the details. Okay, perfect.

So just to give you a few details about the deal itself, Ukraine controls more than 100 major deposits of critical minerals. And that's according to a study by the Keeve School of Economics, along with modest oil and natural gas reserve. So that's what Donald Trump has been eyeing. And what you're about to hear are some of the more granular details about the deal itself. Let's take a look. That centers on U.S. access to Ukraine's vast resources under its soil that includes oil

and gas, but along with critical raw materials, that's like graphite, titanium, and uranium for aerospace and technology. Funds from this deal would go towards paying the U.S. for future military aid and to establish a joint fund for the reconstruction of Ukraine. So you get a sense of how Donald Trump made some concessions based on what was said in that video. that CBS report. Now it is significantly watered down from what Trump originally was demanding. So for instance, he was initially demanding $500 billion or a $500 billion share of Ukraine's rare earths and other minerals in exchange for military aid that we've provided to Kyiv. But this deal actually gives no guarantees of profit. On top of that, he also said that he wanted

Ukraine, he wanted Ukraine to use its mineral wealth to repay the United States for military aid that has already been given to Ukraine. However, he has reneged on that, right? Or he is no longer insisting on that. The minerals deal will help pay the United States for future military investment into Ukraine or help for Ukraine to beat off or defend itself against Russia. But there's more. So although the agreement does not treat past aid to Ukraine as debt that the country needs to repay, it does say that future military aid, including weapons and training, will be treated as a U.S. contribution to the fund, meaning that Ukraine will need to match future aid with

resource wealth. And in a post on telegram, Ukraine's prime minister wrote that the two countries would have equal voting rights over the fund, and that Ukraine would retain full control over the fund. over its subsoil infrastructure and natural resources. So this agreement also, also appears to keep open the possibility for Ukraine to join the European Union. But look, we have to also be clear about one thing. This deal really means nothing if Donald Trump can't convince Vladimir Putin to end the war. And right now, there is no indication that Putin and Russia have any intention to end

the war. So it really does hinge on Russia. However, before I go to you, Jank, I just want to note that Trump has changed his rhetoric a little bit when it comes to Russia. I want to show you that video after we hear from Jank. Yeah, so look, on this deal, the devil's in the details. And so CNN is reporting that it doesn't really have bite, that it's going to be many decades from now when they're actually extracting those minerals and that there's enough leeway in the deal for the Ukrainians to be able to basically change the terms, get out of it, et cetera. If that's true, then it's a face saving measure for Trump and we're moving forward to actually dealing with the ceasefire. That would be great news, okay? Yeah, I agree. So if it turns

out we really are holding them hostage and taking their, you know, state and natural resources, et cetera, let's be honest, that would be America 101, right? And we're back to doing that kind of nonsense for Trump and his donors, et cetera. But if the reporting is accurate, it's a vague enough deal and we move forward, great, that I'm super happy with it. Now, there's no mention of a U.S. security guarantee in the text of the deal. However, as I mentioned earlier, the Trump administration appears to have changed its rhetoric a little bit as it pertains to Russia. So let me give you a little taste of that. Today's agreement signals clearly to Russian leadership that the Trump administration is

committed to a peace process centered on a free, sovereign, and prosperous Ukraine over the long term. It's time for this cruel and senseless war to end. The killing must stop. And look, there are a lot of kinks that still need to be worked out, including the fact that Ukraine's parliament still has to ratify the agreement. But I think the good news here is that Trump has kind of backed off of this idea of essentially fleecing Ukraine with nothing in return. That was the initial plan. Yes, there's a couple other good things. By the way, let's note that Elon Musk is on his way out of the White House, and all of a sudden, the minerals become less important. Okay, so I don't know that those are connected, but it is an interesting note.

All right, now there are parts in the deal that clearly say Russian aggression and how the Ukrainians would buy weapons from the U.S. And that money from the fund would be used to pay for those. So that is in writing, the U.S. saying the Russians are the bad guys and we might sell more weapons to the Ukrainians. So that's the second piece of good news here because that's basically Trump administration saying, Vladimir stop. Okay, so that's what he wrote in a true social post, and this is him actually carrying that out, which is much more important than the true social posts, right? So I wonder if that creates enough leverage to get Putin to reenter the negotiations in a serious

way, if it does terrific. All right, we got to take a break, but when we come back, I want to stay on the topic of foreign policy or what's happening internationally. So we'll talk a little bit about the latest in Gaza, including the starvation tactics that are being waged against the Palestinian people and the insane amount of land that Israel is now currently occupying in Gaza. That and more coming up, don't miss it. All right, back on TYAT, Chang, Anna, and Lady A.F, thank you for gift to 10 memberships on YouTube. You're awesome, as usual. Casper. Well, there's some pretty big updates out of Gaza that I want to share with you all, including how much land Israel is currently occupying in the Gaza Strip.

So let's get to those details. In the six weeks since Israel ended its ceasefire with Hamas, the Israeli defense forces have basically drastically altered. Gaza's map in order to take control, complete control of 70% of Palestinian territory. So I'm gonna show you this map so you can visualize exactly what I'm talking about here. This map was put together by the Washington Post. And if you look at it, and as you can see from this map, which uses data from the Israeli defense forces, all the shaded areas represent parts of Gaza that Palestinians are now barred from being in. So the darker shading indicates areas in Gaza where Palestinians have been ordered to evacuate. The lighter shading represents areas

that are considered military red zones where Palestinians will literally be killed on the spot if they enter. Now you might be asking yourself, how is that different from other parts of the Gaza Strip? And the answer is, I guess it gives the IDF a little more justification in their eyes to just indiscriminately kill people. But that is happening throughout the entirety of the Gaza strip. Let's be clear about that. In total, the shaded areas make up 68% of the Gaza strip jing. Yeah. But no, this is about self-defense. Right. Of a attack that happened literally years ago. It happened in the year 2023. We're in the year, we're in the middle of the year of 2025. And oh, golly, gee, did I occupy 70% of Gaza? Or do I happen to have all their

land? And I'm squishing them all into a tiny little place where then I'm going to push them out and take it all while I'm doing self-defense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what we look guys, I don't know when the Israeli supporters are going to come out and apologize because they said it was anti-Semitic to suggest that Israel would occupy Gaza. Well, here we are at 70% occupation. Right, so those are the same people who are going to argue that you're anti-Semitic for making the point you just made. So it's better to just ignore those folks because they're not arguing in good faith at all.

Yeah, so okay, it was always about land and that's what this is about. It isn't about the hostages, it isn't about the hostages, it isn't about self defense, it's about stealing that land, which they're in the middle of doing now. But what's much worse is how they're starving the children to death. So let's tell you about that. I do want to tell you about that. So I should note that recent evacuation orders,

according to the Washington Post, have covered border areas and population centers that have displaced more than 420,000 people according to the UN office for the coordination of humanitarian affairs. Now, one area of the Gaza Strip that has been, occupied significantly by the IDF is the border area between Gaza and Egypt. And the Rafa border, as it was called, was the area in which humanitarian aid trucks were able to come into the Gaza Strip to provide some humanitarian relief to the Palestinian

civilians who are currently trapped in Gaza. But now there is a complete siege on the Gaza Strip because of the fact that the IDF has complete control of the Rafa border crossing and the Philadelphia corridor. So basically Israel has refused to allow any humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip for months, for months, okay? So for nearly two months, Israel has carried out a total siege of Gaza refusing to allow in a single truck of humanitarian aid or commercial goods. The longest period Israel has imposed such a total blockade. They're using this as a weapon of war. Let's just be clear about that.

Of course, that violates international law. They're committing war crimes by doing this. But since Israel is backed by the military superpower, the United States, they're able to do whatever they want with impunity. So the world food program announced this week that its warehouses are now barren. The soup kitchens that are still running are severely rationing their last stocks. And what little food remains in Gaza's markets is now being sold for exorbitant prices, that most cannot afford.

A simple bag of flour now cost the equivalent of $100. Cases of acute child malnutrition in Gaza are rapidly rising. One of the tail-tale signs of impending famine. Nearly 3,700 children were diagnosed last month, an 82% increase from February, according to the United Nations. And you know, in some ways, the Trump administration has been worse than the Biden administration, not by many ways, but by this particular way, Biden at least paid lip service to allowing humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip. Now, he didn't really use

punishment or any leverage against Israel when they refused to do so. In the case of the Trump administration, they appear to be completely on board with this siege. In fact, Mike Huckabee, the demonic scourge on America and its global reputation, is unfortunately now the U.S. ambassador to Israel and get a load of this piece of garbage. Dr. Hanan Balke, who is the regional coordinator for the WHO for the eastern Mediterranean region, called upon me to put more pressure on Israel, to bring humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza. I appreciate the message from Dr. Balke, and today what I would like to suggest is that we work together on putting the pressure where it really belongs on Hamas.

to give us the opportunity to open up those humanitarian channels. So we call upon Hamas to sign an agreement so that humanitarian aid can flow into Gaza to the people who desperately need it. When that happens and hostages are released, which is an urgent matter for all of us, then we hope that that humanitarian aid will flow. I want to be clear using starvation as a weapon of war, which is what Huckabee very clearly and brazenly was advocating for in that video is a war crime. Also, it's abundantly clear from Netanyahu himself, the prime minister of Israel, that getting the hostages back is not the priority here. Let me give you his direct statement verbatim. We have many objectives, many goals in this war. We want to bring back all of our hostages. That is a very important

goal. In war, there is a supreme objective, and that supreme objective is victory over our enemies, and that is what we will achieve. In other words, who gives a damn about the hostages? We want to take over Gaza, and we're going to do that by any means necessary, Shank. By the way, the hostages might also be starving to death right now. Yeah, because they don't care. Like, there's no food in Gaza. So how are they, how are the hostages going to eat? So, okay, but they don't care about the hostages at all. Netanyahu couldn't care. He's like, I'm going about to steal all of Gaza.

You think I care about 24 or 59 Israeli lives? I don't care about them. If I cared about them, I wouldn't have left the hostages there. I wouldn't have dropped bombs on their heads. They were in the buildings I was dropping the bombs on. We know the release hostages said, yeah, Israel was dropping bombs on us. So how much clearer does that now who will have to make it?

He doesn't give a damn about the hostages. He doesn't care about anybody except me, me, me, me, if I step down, I'll have corruption charges. against me, I might go to prison, I'll be out of power. And the way I stay in power is endless war, and endless death and destruction. He's one of the worst terrorists of my lifetime. That is an indisputable fact. If you say, there's only two excuses that they ever make, which is, no, if a government kills children and slaughters innocent people on purpose, it doesn't count, it doesn't count. Only if the powerless do it, we call it terrorism, right? But if a

government does it, then it's wonderful state action, right? The second excuse is Mahakabee's excuse, Hamas made us do it. Right. Is that right? Okay, so guys, I'm asking you, whether you're right, wing left wing, whatever wing you're in, right? Is there any force on earth that can get you to starve 3,700 children to death? No. Because right now, those kids who were diagnosed with acute child malnutrition last month were about to die. One of the kids, like the CNN had a story, one of the kids, It's five years old is down to 20 pounds. Taking clothes on and off cause them pain because every touch caused him pain because he's skin and bones. They look like they're kids out of the Holocaust. He's supposed to at this point in his life has a five year old weigh at least

40 pounds. So and there's a mom that CNN talked to who's going through a flower that has infested with with bugs and pests, et cetera. And she's trying to filter it, filter it, filter, because there's literally no food left, right? And so she gives it to her kids after baking it, they throw up. But she's like, what am I going to do? There's literally no food left and they're starving to death. For two months, they haven't let food in there. Two months, there's no food.

Mass starvation is collective punishment. It's one of the worst acts of terrorism you could do. And so look, so is Netanyahu a war criminal and a terrorist obviously, Bengavir, obviously, Smotrich, obviously, they should spend the rest of their life in the Hague that is so painfully obvious to every human being on earth other than American government officials and supporters of Israel, period. They're like, no, not enough, not enough, right? And don't tell me that you're against Netanyahu and sit on your ass and do nothing, right?

Nothing. Have you come out and said, this goddamn Israeli government doesn't represent me? It's heartless, it's inhumane, it's disgusting. And I can't believe that it's pretending to represent Jews across the world. How dare you call this a Jewish state and do this kind of monstrosity? That's how I would react. That's how I do react. When Erdogan does 1% of this, I lose it.

Because it's not just the victims of Erdogan. It's how it makes all Turks look. It makes how does it look turkey look, or all Turks across the world. And I'm enraged by what he does. Now, Nanyahu does 10,000 times worse. Now, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel is so important that you could just slaughter those poor people. Already over 15 to 20,000 kids dead, when is it going to be enough? So again, I come back to you guys.

I ask you, is there any force on earth, even if they kidnapped your family? Imagine how enraged you'd be, how enraged. I understand that range. So I'm giving you the maximum hypothetical. They kidnapped your family. Would you murder 3,700 kids? If you say yes, there's something deeply wrong with you. Yeah, and by the way, that's the ones that are being starved to death now,

let alone the 15,000 that are already in the grave. Don't tell me Hamas made you do it. You are choosing to do that. You are choosing. Hamas killed 36 kids. You've now killed 15,000. Hamas didn't make you do that. Netanyahu chose to do that because he's one of the worst terrorists of our lifetimes.

I just, final thing I'll say about this, even the family members of the hostages don't want this. And I give them a tremendous amount of credit for continuing to speak out, continuing to protest the Israeli government, and Netanyahu, because that shows their deep level of humanity. To want this war to end, to want the slaughter to end. And because by the way, they also know that's the only way to actually get their family members back. But that's not the priority for Benjamin Netanyahu. We got to take a break. Okay, no, I'm going to say one more thing.

So the EU and the entire world is against this, right? There's only one country left supporting Israel, and that's America. And Mike Huckabee is a Christian Zionist lunatic. He believes that if Israel murders enough Muslims in that area, that Jesus will come back and murder the rest of us and kill at least 7 billion people. So that's the lunatic, the escape mental asylum patient that we have as ambassador to Israel. So he's enjoying the slaughter of those innocent people while pretending to be a Christian. And if you think that represents Christianity, Jesus, you have a terrible, terrible, terrible view of Christianity. I don't think it does.

So these monsters are pretending to represent Christians and Jews and America and Israel. So there's nothing that America can do because our politicians are the most of the most people. corrupt people on earth. So the American voters are already 100%, not 100, but a minimum 80% against what's happening in Israel. But 80% of American voters don't matter at all. The only thing that matters is corruption and money for the greedy asses in Washington. Okay. So that's why I say this message to good people in Israel. You are literally the only people on earth that could stop the slaughter. If you don't get Netanyahu out, what you're saying is, I'm good with the slaughter. Oh, we're going to starve children to death. That's what Israel stands for now.

That's not my decision to make. That's your decision to make. And you haven't, I mean, in a sense, you've already made it, but you couldn't reverse that decision. You can say, this monster doesn't represent us. And we're not going to starve those children to death. Israel, it's your choice. Don't come crying later and talk about BS anti-Semitism. After you make that decision, if you murder those kids, that's on you. That's not on anyone else. So turn around right now, for God's sake, turn around. If you don't turn around, don't come crying later about how people don't like you.

Oh, why? We murdered tens of thousands of children. We starved human beings to death. Gee, I wonder why people don't like us. Wow, that's so complicated. Let me try to figure it out. No, that's why turn around. I still believe you can turn around.

Well, I hope I'm right. I hope that you got that Israel finds this moral core and ends this despicable monstrosity, young Turks. I'm with you guys. I'm one of my new favorite guys. Johnny Diamond gifted 20 memberships on YouTube. Appreciate to read your super chat later in the show. Anna. That's a great name by the way, Johnny Diamond. Yeah, it's actually John Diamond, but I like to call him Johnny Diamond. Yeah, Johnny. I like it too. Okay. All right, we got to talk about this insane convo that happened on Tucker Carlson's podcast. I think that if you can't defend yourself as a nation or if you can't survive without being propped up by another government, say ours.

then you shouldn't exist as a country. That's just the way of the world. Wait, wait, wait. If you can't exist without being propped up by another government, say ours, you shouldn't exist. Israel cannot exist without being propped up by the United States. You think so? Its nuclear program came from the United States. Its weapons come from the United States.

Its economy is supported by the United States. Well, that was a fascinating conversation that took place on Tucker Carlson's podcast. Now, Tucker Carlson sat down with Matt Walsh, who has a show on the Daily Wire, the same daily wire that fired Candace Owens for her critical statements on Israel, which is fascinating. And I'm about to give you some more context into this convo. But before I do, I just want to be fair, because Matt Walsh seems to believe that Israel would exist even without US aid. And I've seen some stuff on social media where Israeli officials, like,

Oh, I don't need US aid. Okay, then can we stop giving you billions of dollars every year? Yeah, yeah, deal, deal. Where do I sign that deal? But no, Israel will take another $300 billion from us, because all of our politicians are crooks, Republicans and Democrats. Don't tell me otherwise, we saw the Democrats, they were giant crooks and gave them endless money, a blank check to slaughter and genocide and ethnically cleansed Gaza.

Then we see Trump come in and do worse and say, oh, why don't we ethnically cleanse them for you and deal with your exploded bombs? Why don't American soldiers die instead of Israeli soldiers, et cetera, right? Why don't we occupy Gaza for you? So we see what's happening here. But that's not the interesting part here, because that we already knew that our politicians are the biggest crooks in the world and serve Israel. Okay, what's interesting is Matt Walsh working for Ben Shapiro talking about how maybe Israel shouldn't exist if they're going to keep. making money from us. So look, for Matt Walsh, and I listened to the entirety of this conversation,

the whole podcast episode, and I thought it was interesting, there was a lot I disagreed with. But when it came to this particular topic, Matt Walsh isn't really saying things because he has something against Israel or he's ideologically opposed to Israel. He is genuinely opposed to us using our resources on any foreign government, including Israel. So with that in mind, let's give you some more context in regard to this conversation. I want to give you a fuller look at how this went down. Israel cannot exist without being propped up by the United States. You think so?

Its nuclear program came from the United States. Its weapons come from the United States. Its economy is supported by the United States. I'm not attacking Israel. I'm just saying in point of fact, I think that's true. And I mean, Israel thinks it's true or they wouldn't have armies of lobbyists and influencers in the United States. Bibi wouldn't have shown up twice in the past.

three months. Yeah. I mean, the way, from my perspective, it seems like they can handle themselves quite fine. But any country, if there is any country out there that fundamentally cannot exist without being subsidized by American taxpayers, then not only should that country not exist, but that country already does not exist. It's not really... That's interesting. It's not really a country. Right, no, it's...

And unless we want to go back to the old way, which was back in the bad old days, when we did real empires, you know, if you want to just be conquered and you're going to be a vassal state of ours and we're going to sort of own you, then that's one system.

But we don't really do that, at least not directly anymore. So really interesting perspective from Matt Walsh. Yeah. So, I mean, there's two different issues here. Number one, I made a super bold prediction at the beginning of the Trump term that the right wing would turn on Israel. And people thought I was just totally nuts. The right wing of supported Israel way more historically here in the U.S. and the left wing. There is Tucker Carlson and Matt Walsh talking about how either Israel,

should stop taking money from us or they shouldn't exist. It is incredible. No left winger has said anything like that. Like the right is now outflanking us on F these guys. Why do they keep taking our money and keep doing these? Look, I don't know how much they care about the outrageous things that Israel is doing. Matt Walsh doesn't care at all. It seems like, yeah.

But they're outraged by the $300 billion. We're already missing. And by the way, I mean, later we're going to talk about Patrick Bid David and his whole crew giving pretty bad grace to Trump. And one of the things that they're most pissed about is where's the Epstein files? And people are now talking. And then another witness committed suicide. Interesting, interesting.

And people are beginning to wonder what the hell is going on here. Who's the vassal state of who, right? Are we sure that Israel's our vassal state or are we their vassal state? Even though we're giving them the billions. Right, I know. Look, in that they shut down any conversation about this for 50 years in America. And they just all they would do is they believe you a racist, the bigot, an anti-Semite or whatever, right? But who took $300 billion from whom?

And for what reason, right? So these are factual questions. Are facts anti-Semitic? So $300 billion in adjusted inflation dollars went from the U.S. to Israel. Here's what came back, absolutely nothing. And when you say, hey, well, you didn't give us any money. you didn't give us any tangible things, what did you give us? They say, oh, we gave you intelligence.

Intelligence on what? Which of our enemies to kill? Wow, thank you so much. I didn't know you were that helpful. Okay, so now there's a second issue, which is, hey, what's going on at the daily why? Hold on that. Hold on that, okay? Because I do want to go to one more video from this exchange between Walsh and Tucker Carlson.

Now, Tucker Carlson does most of the speaking here because he wants to talk about what he loathes about some Trump voters in the United States. And Walsh seems to agree with him. Let's take a look. It's all Trump voters, right? In my feed, they're yelling at each other over mostly about Israel, but also about Ukraine, but about foreign countries. That's what they're mad at you.

I mean, they're totally obsessed. And by the way, I think it's legitimate to have views on all four. I've got a million views on a million different foreign countries, including those two. But that's their overriding concern. It does seem, I hate the word op, but it does seem like by design, someone has sapped the vital energy from Trump's voting base by convincing them that what's happening in these foreign countries is more important than what's happening in their own.

That's what I see. Do you see this? I do see it. And I don't understand it. I don't understand why, how do we get to a point where, the dominant conversation in this country is about what's happening in other countries. I don't understand it. Now, I just want to say that the rest of this podcast episode touched on all sorts of issues,

and they have all sorts of takes that I am just diametrically opposed to, including criticism of gay marriage, all that kind of stuff, social conservatism that I'm not on board with at all. But I'm able to look at this conversation on a case by case basis, issue by issue basis and say, Tucker Carlson and Walsh are absolutely right in the video clip that we just showed you. How can you on one hand argue that you are voting in favor of an America first agenda and then turn around and passionately argue in favor of us, not only giving foreign countries our resources, more importantly, argue. in favor of us carrying out a war on behalf of a foreign country, which of course in this context is potentially going to war with Iran on behalf of Israel. Something that Tucker Carlson, to his credit, is very much against doing. Yeah. So if you say, hey, are you willing to ally with Tucker

Carlson on preventing a war with Iran? Yes, yes. Of course I am. Absolutely. Like, no, let's go to war with Iran because I hate Tucker too much. I mean, what kind of a weirdo egomaniac would think like that. There's a lot of people out there like that. Well, actually, okay, I shouldn't name names. Okay, but so a lot of our members are writing and this guy's got a funny name where we read him all the time during the social breaks. Jenks left tricep of fury's handle on t.yot.com and he said, I can't believe I agreed with Tuck, talk on something, Mark this day. But tons of people are writing in like that. Why? Because we're now opening our minds. Before it was tribalism, right? If you disagree with someone, you have to disagree 100%. Wait a man, what if they agree with you?

Do you still have to disagree 100%, and yet the tribalist say yes. If they have your position, you should flip your position to be the opposite one just so you could oppose them. Okay, all right, if you want to be a maniac, that's your business, not my business, okay? So I can disagree with everything else Tucker Carlson says and agree with this. Okay, I know you want to get to Daily Wire, but I have to show you two more videos because it's specifically about Ben Shapiro. So that does it for the Matt Walsh, Tucker Carlson part of this conversation. and it is relevant because Matt Walsh is still at the Daily Wire. Now putting that aside, before that conversation went down, Tucker Carlson went on

Megan Kelly's podcast and touched on some of the criticism that he's been dealing with coming from Ben Shapiro himself. Let's get into it. I'm just looking at it from an American perspective. I don't want my country to be further weakened and my fellow citizens to die yet again, my federal treasury to be drained yet again on behalf of an idea that's clearly stupid. Like, I think it's important to say, wait a second, is this a good idea? Can we actually do what you say we can do? For doing that, I have been attacked as a tool of Iran. I'm a freaking Episcopalian. I am not Shiite as a tool of Qatar. It's like one of our closest allies in the world. The largest American

air base in the Middle East is in Qatar. They're a close ally of ours. And all of a sudden, And it's like, oh, you're taking Qatari money. I've never taken a dollar. I've never taken a dollar from any government. I mean, are you joking? So Tucker Carlson has been accused of taking Qatari money because of his criticism of Israel, him being willing to question whether or not it is a good idea to go to war with Iran. And one of the main people who's been making these arguments against Tucker Carlson

happens to be Ben Shapiro, who of course is a staunch defender of Israel. So he addresses that in this next clip. And these are people who are acting on behalf of foreign government telling me that I'm unpatriotic. And I try not to get like crazy angry about it. But it's hard because you see these people, you know, Ben Shapiro where these shills like come out and like attack you personally because having- He was bashing you just this week.

But it's what's so infuriating is like I'm 56 in two weeks. So I've watched this. I was in Iraq. Like I'm not an expert on anything and I would never claim expertise. I try not to claim expertise I don't have. But just, I have a good memory and I was there for a lot of this stuff. And I have unresolved rage for the reasons I just explained. No one's apologized, no one's repented, no one's changed.

He's right about that. The neocons have never apologized for dragging the United States into a preemptive war with Iraq, which was absolutely disastrous. Right. Nobody wants you to apologize for anything, right? That's true. So Kamala Harris, instead of asking for an apology from Dick Cheney, gave him a bear hug. then sunk her own campaign.

Yep. It's just a bunch of morons in Washington who just, since they're so hooked on donor money, right, they're like, oh, the donors tell me to bear hug Dick Cheney. He's sitting at a 9% approval rating, but okay, sure, I'll do anything a donor tells these. It's like Ron Burgundy, but except with donors, right, I'll do anything a donor puts in the prompter. So, okay, so that's the Democrats, Trump then comes in, does worse.

He's like, oh, yeah, we'll go and deal with the unexploded bomb. in Gaza so that the more precious Israeli lives will be saved and Americans will get blown up by those bombs instead. Wow, you really sound like you're America first. So I mean, it's so over the top that like they, I think the Ben Shapirs of the world don't understand your old tricks are not going to work anymore, right? Cats out of the bag. So before they had it totally contained with mainstream media, right?

Mainstream media was like, you step one inch out of line, you say anything against Israel, canceled, canceled, anti-Sabite, and then you'll be canceled for the rest of your life, right? Now guys, mainstream media, sorry, hashtag suck it. You're not in charge anymore, okay? So now you can't contain us. You can't contain us on the left. You can't contain them on the right. Now go cry about it.

Oh no, Israel, beloved Israel. No, go ahead, Danabash. Go ahead. Go ahead. I don't care. No one cares about you anymore. We now know what the hell is going on. Some country took $300 billion and it wasn't us, it was them, right?

And so, and right now Israel's starving the children of Gaza, hasn't let in food for two months, those monsters, okay? It's not all the Israeli people, it's the current government of Israel. So now, when you look at this fight between Van Shapiro and Tucker Carlson, first of all, the fact that there is a fight is awesome. It is awesome, absolutely. And I will say to my beloved friends on the left that said that there would be no breaks. How could, so if you, we must hate Benchapur, obviously, we must hate cross it, obviously. What happens when they disagree? Does not compute, does not compute, hate both of them, cannot know what they agree on.

Okay, all right, well, do you have a side? Do you have an ideology? Do you have any ideas of your own other than must hate all right wingers and oppose them 100%? Okay, on this issue, I am on Tucker Carlson's side and not on Ben Shapiro's side. Because I have a mind and I use it. It's for independent judgment, okay? On other issues, I disagree with both of them. Okay, so now let's go to the Daily Wire drama.

So first of all, Ben Shapiro is picking all the wrong fights. Okay? You're going to mess around with Tucker Carlson on the right wing. Have at it, Haas. Good luck. Let's see how it turns out. Okay, number two. Now that you're having financial troubles, did I say that out loud?

All of a sudden, it's not just Candace Owens anymore. Now your boy Matt Walsh, your big star, right? Yeah. Now he's popping off. And he's popping off in a way that's waving a flag. You think we're not going to notice that? You think Matt Walsh doesn't know that we're not going to notice that, okay? That's him firing a shot across the bow.

I mean, because that's not just, hey, maybe we should stop giving them. money, that's maybe if we keep giving them money, they shouldn't exist. That is a, that's not a shot across the bow. That hit the bow. That hit the bow. That's a very provocative statement, for sure. By the way, I don't agree with that. I think Israel has every right to exist, okay? Just don't think they have a right to our money and they don't have a right to slaughter

innocent Palestinians, right? So now, I mean, Matt Walsh is, and Tucker are now more anti-Israel than the left? And that is fascinating, okay? And again, anti-Israel's and pro-Israel is not the right way of looking at it. Critical. Yeah, critical of the current Israeli government, certainly, right? So, but there's something going on at the Daily Wire, because people know where their bread is buttered.

And all of a sudden, the bread appears to be unbuttered. So the natives are growing restless. So that's what it looks like to me from the outside. But what would I know? People like butter. Yeah, especially on the right wing. the right wing. They really love butter. Okay. Yep. All right, well, we're going to take a break. When we come back for the second hour of the show, a pretty big update on a federal judge and

his thoughts on the Trump administration using the Alien Enemies Act to deport people. This is a Trump appointed judge who appears to disagree with Trump. So that and more coming up, don't miss it. I'm going to be. I'm going to be. Buhn't know Buhn't Bhopin

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