The Young Turks - The Unamerican President - October 6, 2025

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All right. All right, well, the young Turks, Jake U Granite, is sparing with you guys. Anna's in New York again because she's going to be on CNN again. Check that out tonight at 10 o'clock Eastern. You're doing tomorrow night at 10 o'clock Eastern too or no? I'm coming home. I'm coming home tomorrow. I'll be on the show tomorrow just as I am today. And one of the panel members on Abby Phillips's show today is going to be Jeffrey Tubin. So all right. It'll be fun. Tugging the Tubin is going to want to watch for a couple of different reasons. So that is one of our members.

All right. So big show ahead for you guys, Trump versus the courts. And Stephen Miller is all irate about everything in the world. But super interesting. We got the flotilla coming up. We got the peace deal coming up. And on the peace deal, I have a prediction, an official prediction. Uh-oh.

So ought to be interesting. But let's get started. Casper, what do you got? You got to let me give you the deets before you make your prediction, Yugar. You promise? I promise. Okay, all right, all right. Okay, well, let's start off with something a little different, which is Trump's war on Americans, it appears, because, well, you're about to find out. The Trump administration activated a third state's national guard. Texas Governor Greg Abbott

issued a statement saying he, quote, fully authorized the president to call up 400 members of the Texas National Guard. The plan is to send them to Oregon and also to Chicago, where the situation is growing more tense by the hour. Federal agents threw tear gas at protesters over the weekend. Yeah, it's a political loser, John. It's a political loser. Donald Trump may think it's a political winner, but it's a political loser. Opposed Trump deploying in the U.S. city's active duty, U.S. military, 61%. The National Guard in particular, 58%.

When you get three and five Americans agreeing on anything, you know if that is on the opposition side, it's a political loser. It's certainly not shocking that sending federal agents to terrorize American citizens in Democrat-run cities is a political loser. But nonetheless, I want to give you the details on what's currently transpiring and how the federal courts are weighing in on Trump's actions. So for the second time in one weekend, a Trump appointed federal judge in the state of Oregon has blocked the president's plans to send National Guard troops to Portland. Now, the decision, The decision blocks the deployment of National Guard from anywhere in the United States to Oregon's largest city.

Now, on Sunday night, the U.S. District Judge, who's at the heart of this story, Judge Karen Imurgut, had to essentially expand on a more narrow ruling that she had issued just the day before that blocked Trump from sending in members of the Oregon State National Guard into Portland. Now, after that, and in an effort to essentially get around the federal judge's ruling, Trump reassigned federalized guard troops from Los Angeles to go to Portland instead. About 100 California National Guardsmen arrived in Oregon early Sunday morning, and that deployment was expected to double by the end of the day before the judge stepped in once again. Now, during the Sunday hearing, the judge expressed frustration. with the DOJ's lawyer, that's Deputy Assistant Attorney General Eric Hamilton,

for what she characterized as an attempt to sidestep her order from the night before, from Saturday. So in court, Judge Imrigat told Hamilton, quote, Mr. Hamilton, you are an officer of the court, aren't the defendants simply circumventing my order? And here's more of what she had to say. Take a look. Judge Karen Imrigat, a Trump appointee, issued a national. new broader order prohibiting the administration from using federal control to send any state's National Guard into Oregon and pressing the government's attorney saying, quote, you are an officer of the court. Do you believe that this is an appropriate way to deal with my order or an order

that a judge issues that you disagree with or is that an appropriate mechanism to appeal as you have done? Over the weekend, federal officers clash with demonstrators at the ICE headquarters in Portland firing pepper balls and flashbangs. Portland police say they did not observe any person or property crimes committed and no arrests were made. Now just a few more details before I go to you, Jank, because the judge noted the Saturday order blocking Oregon National Guard troops from being sent to Portland relied on her finding that the president appeared to have exceeded his constitutional authority by federalizing the troops because protests in Portland, quote, did not pose a danger of rebellion, end quote.

And that conditions in Portland had not changed when the Trump administration moved to mobilize members of the California National Guard to the city instead, immigrant said. So she feels that Trump has gone beyond his authority. And on top of that, Jenk, she argues that the justifications coming from the Trump administration in terms of sending federalized. National Guardsmen to Portland really didn't make much sense. And I'll get to why in just a moment, but first I want to hear from you. Yeah, so the most important question here is, is it constitutional or not, right? So if, look, I think that a lot of us are uncomfortable with seeing the military in our streets.

It feels like a developing nation that is unstable and makes you feel like you're being watched at all times by military occupation. It doesn't feel American, but is it constitutional? And the Stephen Miller sign and the Trump side say, sure, I mean, we could use National Guard. And, you know, the presidents have used National Guard before. So then you get into the nitty ditty, nitty gritty, not ditty, details of, okay, yeah, but how do you decide? So, and the judge lays out the correct process there. And Anna just told you. So the question here is, if you're going to use the National Guard,

especially without the permission of the governor, are we in danger of a rebellion? Like there's going to be a rebellion in Portland and it's going to topple the United States government. So we've got to rush our troops over there so the rebellion doesn't topple. Not just like the alderman of Portland or the city council, but the United States of America. Come on, guys. Does anyone believe we're in danger of a rebellion that's going to topple? If we are, it ain't in Portland. So no, he's obviously picking Portland in Chicago as places that are run by Democrats.

And he thinks that there's crime there. But really, crime has gone down in those places. If he'd done it like two, three years ago, I would, we would have accurately told you. Yeah, crime is up, but that doesn't mean that there's a rebellion going on. Even back then, was there a rebellion against the US? No, there's even less crime now. How could there possible, how could crime in a city that has gone down significant? be some sort of rebellion if it wasn't before. None of that makes any sense. Obviously,

it's not a rebellion. Obviously, you shouldn't have the troops in the in this streets. Here, the Trump appointed judge is absolutely correct. You're right, Jenks. So Trump or the Trump administration in their defense had claimed that sending the federalized troops to Oregon was meant to control protests at an ice facility. Now, there are in fact protests in front of an ice facility. There's no indication, though, that the local police and local authorities are standing down and allowing absolute anarchy to ensue. And the claim made by the Trump administration in their justification was disputed, not just by state and local leaders, but also including by the judge, again, a Trump appointed judge herself. Take a look.

But the Trump administration insists violent criminals are destroying Portland and troops are necessary to protect federal assets and personnel. In a ruling Saturday, the judge wrote Portland's protests were not significantly violent or disruptive and the Trump's description of them was simply untethered to the facts that deploying the Oregon National Guard likely exceeded his constitutional authority. Well, news is now breaking. This literally just broke right now. So apologies. if I get anything even a little bit incorrect here. I'm actually going to read verbatim from the Hill, which is reporting this.

President Trump on Monday said he was considering invoking, get a load of this, the Insurrection Act to justify sending federal troops into Portland. I just want to be very clear here. We're talking about the president of the United States essentially going to war against the American people. Because if this was really about rooting out crime or helping individuals living in these, big, you know, Democrat-run cities, he would work with local officials in order to root out whatever problem he purports is, you know, menacing the people living in Oregon. But that's not what's happening here. He clearly enjoys seeing, you know, a federalized presence in these blue cities, I believe,

is a form of retaliation. Because let's keep it 100, everyone. Let's just keep it 100. Okay, what crime other than murder is worse than rape, including the rape of minors. And I still have yet to hear a single word uttered by anyone in the Trump administration in regard to an Israeli government official who got caught by our own FBI attempting to have sex with a minor in Las Vegas. He was free to fly back to Israel. And you care about crime? You don't care about crime. Let's just keep it 100. This is all about retaliating against political opponents, including American voters who did not cast their ballots for Trump. That's what this is about. Trump in remarks from the Oval Office likened the situation in Portland to an insurrection,

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And the way his popularity is going, I wouldn't be surprised if he got to desperate measures by the end. And then we're gonna have a, you know, a serious, a very, very, very serious constitutional issue about, and maybe even an existential issue about America. So if he goes in that direction. But in terms of the martial law, he's been enhancing to do it for the entire time that he's been in office, including the first term. He's constantly talking about rolling out the troops. So in fact, the judge referenced quotes of his from a dozen years ago. For a dozen years, he's been saying the same thing. Oh my God, crime in Chicago is out of control. It's like a, it's a disaster. It's the worst thing in the world. America's going to collapse.

Well, it's been a dozen years and America hasn't collapsed. There has been no rebellion against the United States government, at least from Chicago or Portland. There was one on January 6th. But okay, we'll put that aside because everybody gets super emotional about it. Oh my God, I'm triggered. I saw it with my own eyes. They were bum rushing the Capitol. That doesn't count. But rando crime in Portland counts as an insurrection?

No, no one in their right mind could possibly believe that judge put it well. It is untethered from the facts. But this guy, Trump, has had a heart on for bringing military into the streets and how having total military control over the American people. And you know how he feels about being criticized or, or, you know, joked about, he despises it. And he thinks you should, you know, the FCC should take action. Now he's calling on FCC to cancel Al Sharpton for the guy who ran on freedom of speech, right?

So I don't want the military in the streets. I don't want government tyranny all over America. And that is what Trump has been promising from for the last 10 years. I'm sick of it. And so he's looking for any excuse here, and that leads to what Pritzker said. And surprisingly, that was also interesting and smart. And so he said, look, and this is, a lot of you will instantly go, yeah, of course. Trump is trying to bring in the troops to create the emergency in the first place.

The emergency doesn't exist right now, oh, there's crime in Chicago. And how is that different than the last 10 years, 20 years, 30 years? You say, okay, I wanted to get better. The Marines can't do policing, the National Guard can't do policing. So if you want to send in other federal agencies with the cooperation of Chicago and Illinois to bring down crime grade, nobody's objecting to that, right? But you're sending in troops there. And the reality is you want people to react to the troops so you could say, oh my God,

oh, they hit the troops, oh my God. That's it, we have to crush them, roll out the tanks. And then right winger, if you're not going to be in favor of government tyranny and literally jackbooted thugs coming in here and taking over our cities, by the the way, Palantir is next. Oracle is bragging about how they can now make all the citizens be good little boys and girls because they're gonna be able to track all of you. Isn't that what you were worried about? They're coming in through the front door. That's exactly right. That's Larry Ellison just openly and brazenly making those comments about mass government

surveillance on the American people. So for those who are still in this brain dead delusion, that everything that's happening in this country is left versus right, please get yourself out of that headspace because it's incorrect. It's ordinary American people against a power-hungry government. And what we're seeing right now is terrifying, not just in regard to what's going down in these big blue cities, but also in regard to what the Trump administration is plotting alongside these tech companies who are seeking to increase their power as well as increase their surveillance on the American people. One other thing that I just wanted to note is that if the Republican Party is under

any impression that Trump's actions are politically popular and will help Republican candidates in the midterm elections, well, they've got another thing coming. Let's go to our friend Harry Enton. Opposed Trump deploying in the U.S. city, active duty, U.S. military, 61%. The National Guard in particular, 58%. When you get three and five Americans agreeing on anything, you know if that is on the opposition side as a political loser. And among independents who are, of course, that key block in the middle of the United States political electorate, we're talking about two-thirds of

independents there and about who opposed the deployment of either active due to U.S. military or National Guard. I think it's that they don't buy Donald Trump's case for why these troops must go into the U.S. cities. So the New York Times essentially gave you a two-prong little answer here, right? Trump may use the National Guard to intimidate rivals or big city crime will spiral out of control if the troops don't go into cities. What you see is the majority that takes the cases that Trump may use the National Guard to intimidate political rivals at 51%. Just 42% of Americans agree with the Donald Trump stance that, in fact, big city crime will spiral out of control if the National Guard doesn't go into U.S. cities. The final thing for me is this reality of what's happening on the ground in Portland, because if you hear from Trump administration officials, they would have you believe that.

Local authorities, you know, the people who are actually tasked constitutionally to maintain public order haven't actually been doing their jobs. They've been standing down, but that's not true. So I want to go to graphic six here where two people were arrested by the Portland Police Bureau overnight. The department said, bringing its total arrest count outside the building, meaning the ice facility where protests are happening, to 36 since nightly protests began in June, that figure does not include arrest made. by federal law enforcement agents. So no one is standing down for those who are committing crimes or engaging in violence as opposed to peaceful protest, they are being met by local authorities who are arresting them as they should. So the deployment of federalized guardsmen is really, again, about menacing these communities and retaliating against who Trump sees as his political opponents. Final word from you, Jank?

Yeah, so, you know, you talk about left and right. And we are entering a new paradigm. And I want to start doing something on Wednesday that tries to unite the country. God help us all, but for the old guard, the people who are dug in on the, you know, ends of the left and right spectrum, in between 2019 and 2023, we try to explain to folks that crime was going up. You know why? Because that's what the data showed. And the left wing was unpeathered from the facts.

He said, no, crime is not going up. Numbers are lies, right? Now we have the right wing saying between 23 and 25, that crime is spiraling out of control when in the real data shows the crime is going down. And in a lot of areas significantly doubt. 29% down, homicides are down in Chicago, 13% overall. Philadelphia's numbers are down. L.A., New York, down, right? So, but now the right goes, no, now I don't want to see reality. I choose to be blind. And I'm going to see the numbers going down and say they're going up. Okay, so both sides for political reasons go, no, no, no, no, no, I don't want to hear the facts. I want to be untethered from the facts. Well, if you want to be, you can be, right? And then you'll see whatever you want to see. But right now, crime is going down and we're the guys who told you that it was going up when it was. And the entire left told you it wasn't, okay?

So we've earned that credibility because we actually care about the facts. And right now, bringing in the National Guard or anyone else into these cities when crime is going down is mental. There's no rebellion against America. It's obviously Trump's, you know, some sort of lizard brain instinct of must have military in the straits. He's wanted it from day one. Was there an emergency back in 2016, 2018? We can go on and on.

So back to the last thing is the Oracle. Sir Larry Ellson did give this quote. We had it on the show last week. And they are using Gaza as kind of a training ground to figure out how they can monitor every single citizen and make them behave, okay? Then they're going to bring it to America. So Ellison, one of the richest men in the world, the owner of Oracle and the biggest donor to the IDF, he literally gives charitable donations to an army in the middle of a genocide. He wrote, quote, or said, citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting

everything that's going on. That man is a traitor to this country, being the large, donor to a foreign military is a suspect to say the least, but just want to make that point. I mean, look, so look, Trader is just the lingo word. We don't mean it literally, and the courts can decide whatever they want if these issues ever go to the courts, but they won't. But what I do care about is, guys, they're obvious, they're saying they want to bring that here. If you're on the left or the right, you should hate that idea. So, you know, beware of, you know, the establishment bearing gifts. It ain't a gift. It's a Trojan horse.

All right, we got to take a break. But when we come back, we'll give you an update on the ceasefire deal that President Trump is attempting to get basically agreed to by honestly at this point Netanyahu. I'll give you all the details on that story and more when we come back. All right, back on TYAT, Jank Anna and two last names. They just joined by hitting the join button below on YouTube. I love our YouTube community. I was just reading comments during the social break to all you guys from YouTube members. And YouTube members do an amazing job of sustaining us. So if you can help out, hit the join button below.

And I'm going to start teasing it now. On Wednesday, we're going to start to do something different and interesting. And here we go again. It's an idea that I've got that's wild, not likely to work, but full of hope. Okay, Casper, what's next? All right, well, let's talk a little bit about the updates on this potential ceasefire deal between Hamas and Israel. So, Hamas has officially agreed to release all hostages in exchange for a permanent ceasefire.

They made this statement last week on Friday, which was basically the main thrust of the ceasefire deal that President Trump brokered. Now, they are also wanting to negotiate some of the other terms in the deal. And according to Axios, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu essentially wants the United States and Israel

to spin this as Hamas outright rejecting Trump's peace plan. Now, of course, that's not the case, but this is repetition coming from the Israelis, because this is exactly what they've done with every single ceasefire negotiation. Now, Trump allegedly wasn't too happy about what he was hearing from Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, but honestly, don't hold your breath because we have been here before. So the report was published by Israeli journalist and former IDF soldier Barack Ravid. Two anonymous U.S. officials also allegedly confirmed. the report. Now, the report claims that Trump feared Hamas would outright reject his peace plan,

and this is probably why. Take a look. The administration, President Trump briefed Arab leaders at the end of last week on this plan. They said, well, there are, you know, a number of things that are good with this. And then Trump met with Netanyahu and Ron Dermer, who is one of the, you know, these forces of right-wing extremism in Israel. And he's an American-born advisor to Netanyahu, who was Israel's ambassador to the United States for a long time. He knows how to pull strings of American politicians,

wherever those strings, and however they arise. And they changed the plan as they met and basically rewrote key parts of what Trump had told the Arabs to say, oh, oh, yes, yes, and we should remember that Israel will remain in control over Gaza. They changed what they had actually briefed the leaders, and then unilaterally announced something different. And this is just now being disclosed in recent hours. This is so typical. So to reiterate, Trump goes to Arab leaders, shows them the initial peace plan. They say there's some really great things in here.

We approve. Then the Trump administration meets with the Israelis. The Israelis unilaterally change the terms of the peace deal. And then they, of course, don't disclose that to the public. And so they set Hamas up to reject the deal. And miraculously, Hamas didn't reject the deal. Now, what did the revised version of the peace deal include? You're about to hear Jeffrey Sachs give you the details on that.

The way that this agreement is written is that Israel keeps its security control over Gaza. In other words, Gaza remains under Israel's dominance, which is Netanyahu's whole point. Here's prime minister Netanyahu speaking in Hebrew immediately about. upon his return from Washington to Tel Aviv. Everyone kept saying you have to accept Hamas's terms to withdraw everyone. The IDF needs to withdraw and Hamas can recover and also rehabilitate the strip. No way, that's not happening. On the contrary, and President Trump added that if Hamas refuses, he will give Israel full backing to complete the military operation to eliminate it.

So when it comes to Hamas accepting the deal, they accept the main, you know, the, the, the main thrust of the deal essentially. We will release every single hostage for a permanent ceasefire. But the finer points, meaning the removal of IDF forces from the Gaza Strip, that is what Hamas wants to continue negotiating for obvious reasons. Now, nonetheless, it turns out Trump is actually elated over the fact that Hamas has accepted the peace deal. And so even though he's excited, Netanyahu obviously feels differently, you would think he would want the hostages back, but that's never been the case. So we've learned that apparently

Trump learned that Netanyahu was against it when he called him and found out that the Prime Minister doesn't share his optimism. Bibi told Trump, this is nothing to celebrate and that it doesn't mean anything. And Trump responded allegedly with, I don't know why you're always so effing negative. This is a win. Take it. Now I've got more details for you, Jank, but I'm curious what you think about where this whole peace deal stands. Yeah, so I now have a pretty good idea of where I think it's going to go. So Israel has never wanted the hostages back. They might have wanted some of them back, but they certainly didn't want all of them back

because then they wouldn't have an excuse to keep going in Gaza. So they thought, right? So Trump, on the other hand, actually does want a peace deal. You know, he cares about the Nobel Peace Prize and he ran on anti-war. Good, good, good, I'll take it. I'll take it. And I don't think he's faking it. So will he eventually serve Israel? He almost always does, but I think on top of that, he actually does want a peace deal.

So Netanyahu sets it up in a way that he thinks, well, Hamas can't possibly take it, but they wind up taking it anyway. Then he tries to add more provisions, try to kill it, say yes, but, that Hamas is saying yes, but, and that it's not really an acceptance, etc. He tries everything. He throws a kitchen sink at Trump, and Trump goes, no, no, I like it, they said yes, we're going to go forward. So my guess is what happened next is Israel realized, well, we can't fight Trump on this. So let's pretend to accept.

So they went back to, okay, yes, sir, of course, sir. But then he goes back and tells his home audience, as you saw there, in Hebrew, that is very important. So he doesn't want us to find out, idiot, we have AI translated bots now. We all know what you're saying anyways. And he goes, don't worry, we're never getting out of Gaza. So that's always been the case. This was always about land. He's going to want to take as much of Gaza as possible, if possible, the whole thing.

If not, security permitters, that's the worst case scenario for him. But ideally, he'd like to take a big giant chunk of Gaza. So he goes home and tells the Israelis, don't worry, I'm not going to listen to that idiot Trump. We're going to stay in there no matter what happens, right? So which leads to step number three, Anna, and this is the prediction. So Hamas will, if this goes to fruition, and it looks like it's on a track to get there, Hamas will release the hostages, and then Israel will immediately stop listening to the deal. They'll break every ceasefire, they'll go back to bombing, et cetera.

Why? Well, theoretically, there's a peace deal in Trump. So there was peace and we're getting the nobody. What happened? Well, they'll say, well, no, no, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Hamas didn't fully comply. Hamas actually is the one breaking this deal. Even though they gave the hostages back, I, they, X number of weapons were returned and X number of Hamas was turned.

or whatever it is, you know what? It should have been X plus two. It should have been X plus 10. It should have been 2x. Not good enough, not good enough, not good enough. So says Hamas didn't do an impossible standard that they couldn't possibly do. And even if they did it, we'd make up something new. We're gonna go back to bombing, back to occupying, back to taking Gaza.

Because there's nothing in the world that's gonna stop Bibi Netanyahu from trying to set up greater Israel. He literally said he's on a historic and spiritual mission for greater Israel, which includes Gaza and the West Bank. So that's why Anna, when Trump is like, wait, why aren't you optimistic? We're gonna get the hostages back. I can't believe that after all this time, A, he's still that naive that he thinks that Netanyahu cares about the hostages or wants peace, he wants the exact opposite, he doesn't want peace.

And that there's not a single advisor to Trump who's apparently can tell him, oh, Mr. President, no, Netanyahu doesn't want to get the peace at all. And when you see it from that angle, then every one of his actions makes perfect sense. targeted them and effectively got rid of them, convinced Trump to get rid of them. So congratulations. But, you know, apparently on Saturday, Trump confirmed the call took place in an interview with Barack Ravid, meaning the call with Benjamin Netanyahu. He says, quote, I said, BB, this is your chance for victory. He was fine with it. He's got to be fine with it. He has no choice. With me, you got to be fine, pretending as though, you know,

he's been a real tough guy with Benjamin Netanyahu when he's actually like shown the entire world his whole ass about how weak he is in the face of Netanyahu. It's been a complete and utter humiliation for the American people. Trump told Axios in an interview that he was warned by his team ahead of time, or ahead of the call, that Netanyahu had reservations. But Trump said that when they spoke, Netanyahu agreed to move forward. Netanyahu's word is as good as a soil diaper, in my opinion. But you can make your decision on that to the audience members watching.

And negotiations for a permanent ceasefire and the release of all hostages began today in Egypt. U.S. envoy, Steve Whitkoff, is heading up the U.S. team, which is brokering the talks and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who wants to invest in real estate in Gaza, is also expected to attend. Pardon me, if that doesn't inspire much confidence for people like me, but nonetheless, according to Ravid, Trump will not let us. the negotiators leave Egypt without a ceasefire in place. Take a look. Donald Trump is completely adamant on getting a deal in the coming days. And he will do anything in his power to make it happen. That's what I learned from talking to him directly over the last few days and from talking to all of his closest advisors. He does not take as an option, a collapse of those talks and that will end with no deal.

I don't think Donald Trump and his team will allow either of the negotiators from both sides to leave Egypt without a deal. This is why I think there is a bigger chance than ever before that this will get done in the coming days. Well, from his mouth to God's ears, God's ears. We'll see if that happens. But I'm happy that there's some optimism here. I wish that I could partake in said optimism. But there have been so many moments over the last two years where it appeared that we were getting very close to a real C-spire, a lasting permanent end to the just unmitigated slaughter we've been seeing in Gaza. But really, I I'm not gonna get excited until I see some real action and until I see Israeli troops pulling out of the Gaza Strip. And by the way, last Friday, President Trump told Israel to stop bombing Gaza after Hamas had accepted the peace deal and they continued. In fact, they continue bombing Gaza today.

The Israelis have switched their messaging to claim that they're only engaging in defense operations against a population of people who are unarmed, okay, in reality, over 100 people have been killed in Gaza ever since Trump made that order. So Netanyahu continues to humiliate the president of the United States on the global stage, thus humiliating the American people. That's our special ally. Final word from you, Jank? Yeah, so look, Trump is trying to get to peace. So it's not fake. He wants it on his record. Is it about self-aggrandizing? Sure, who cares? I'd much rather have himself aggrandized with peace than with war. And he's doing the same thing Jimmy Carter did to get peace between Israel and Egypt.

I had the pleasure of interviewing President Carter about it and read all the details in his library, et cetera. Basically, the bottom line is he would not let the Israeli or the Egyptian leader leave Camp David until they got to a peace deal. He kept grounding their helicopters, literally physically wouldn't let them leave, okay? And they did get to a peace deal. And that was a real peace deal. And super last things about Jared Kushner. So folks are like, oh, no, here comes Jared Kushner, he's going to try to snake in there and get some sort of real estate deal for himself. And what's he, he's not even in the government. Why is he there?

All that is potentially true, certainly, right? And you should definitely be wary of him. But I think that there's a secret reason why Jared Kushner's there that they're not sharing with you guys. It's because the Arabs, Qatar, Egypt, Hamas, peace negotiators, et cetera, are worried that if there's not someone there to guarantee their safety, that Israel will murder them all. Because that's what Israel is done now with several peace negotiator groups in a row with Iran and with Hamas. And now everyone is worried that if you try to get to a peace negotiation, Israel will just bomb you. So if you put Jared Kushner in there, Israel can't kill everyone in the room. I mean, if you think that's like overly skeptical or cynical, okay, fine.

But I think that's part of the reason why he's there. When we come back, we'll talk about all of the individuals who were detained by the Israelis who were part of that flotilla humanitarian aid mission to try to get some humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip. many of them have testified that they've been mistreated while in Israeli detention. We'll give you all those details and Israel's response to it when we come back. I'm doing Jank and Anna with you guys and all of our members, including the ones on t-y-t.com. I'm gonna read two last ones here. Bloded Ego said there's one thing that could stop, Beebe. If he stopped funding, that is the only thing that might do it, but those chance are at zero.

Yeah, isn't it hilarious that our government says, well, I mean, we can't not take your money and give it to Israel. That's a must. No one is allowed to disagree with that. Since we don't have that option, we must obey Israel. We have to look at other options. And then media is like, well, anyways, I read. A nice compliment to Anna from a YouTube member during the social break. Lopside Gecko says,

Chank, you look absolutely gorgeous today. Well, I didn't say it, but the folks in the streets apparently are talking about. No, you're awesome. It's not true, but I love you anyway. Casper. All right, let's get to our next story. However, the unyote of their ownings were Kharahana shemma.

They're not in fact, not to not to allow, but they're and they're terrorists.

Even though Israel's National Security Minister, Itimar Ben Gavir is a literal convicted terrorist

he accused humanitarians who were detained as part of the global Samud Flotilla as being as such. Now, in reality, the 137 activists who were detained by Israel were actually seeking

to deliver humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza who are still intentionally being starved to death. And some of the detainees have spoken out about the torturous conditions imposed by the Israelis after they were taken captive by the Israeli government, including 70-year-old Margaret Pissetta, who's from Scotland. Take a listen to what she had to say about the conditions of the prison that she was sent to. That prison was awful. Wow. In a gym?

No food, no water. My broken leg, they're getting sent to me. I want her leg. I said, broke. She's flung the metal door on it. I meant, sorry. No. Oh, my God.

So that 70-year-old woman you just heard from has a broken leg, and she claims that the Israelis slammed a metal door on her broken leg as she was in detention. Now, two others who were part of the flotilla said that Swedish activist Greta Toonberg, who was in Israeli custody, but no longer is, was also mistreated during her detention. Haswani Helmi, a Malaysian citizen, and Winfield Beaver, an American citizen, told Reuters at the airport that they had witnessed Tuneberg being mistreated, saying that she was shoved and forced to wear an Israeli flag. 28-year-old Helmi said that detainees were not being given clean food or water and that their medications and belongings had been confiscated. It was a disaster. They treated us like animals. Beaver said Toonberg was treated terribly and used as propaganda describing how she was pushed into a room as national security minister Ittamar Ben-Gavir arrived. Now, an official who visited Tunberg in prison claimed that she was being held in a cell infested with bedbugs and had no food or little food and water. And then earlier today, Greta was released from detention. and deported to Greece where she confirmed that she was in fact subjected to abuses, but didn't go into detail. Take a look. I could talk for a very, very long time about our mistreatment and abuses in our imprisonment.

Trust me, but that is not the story. What happened here was that Israel, while continuing to worsen and escalate their genocide and mass destruction with genocidal intent, attempting to erase an entire population, an entire nation in front of our very eyes. Now, as you can imagine, that looks pretty embarrassing for the Israeli government to basically torture humanitarians who are just trying to break the siege of Gaza and get humanitarian aid to people who are intentionally being starved to death. And so as a result, the Israelis have denied that these individuals have been mistreated. The foreign ministry described reports that detainees had been mistreated as complete lies. But apparently, Ben Gavir didn't get the

memo that he's supposed to spout this specific lie and instead said something counter to what the Israeli foreign ministry said. In fact, he says, anyone who supports terror is a terrorist referring to the humanitarians on the flotilla as terrorists and deserves the conditions of terrorists. And that statement came after reports that Tunberg was mistreated, by the way. Ben Gavir said he, quote, took pride in the fact that we treat the flotilla activists as terror supporters. Again, it'samar Ben Gavir is a literal convicted terrorist, but let me continue. He also said, quote, they should feel what the conditions in Ketziat prison are like and think twice before approaching Israel again. That's how it works. So I'm gonna go

and take Ben Gavir's word for it because what he's saying is consistent with the way the Israeli government has been behaving. So, Jank, what are your thoughts? Every Israeli accusation is a confession. So as he's sitting there pointing at them going, they are terrorists, terrorists. What he's saying is, first of all, he is, as Anna pointed out, a convicted terrorist. And, but mainly what he's saying is, I want you to do terrorism on them. I want you to terrorize them. I want you to drag him by the hair. I want you to slam their legs. I want you to treat them like they're Palestinians. Well, in a sense, thank you, because then the world sees better how you treat Palestinians. And so now that they're doing

it to Europeans, people are seeing it with their own eyes and they're, that's a little grandmother from Scotland who's got a broken leg and you're gonna slam a door into it. Well, what do you think they've been doing to Palestinian grandmothers for two years straight, other than, of course, blowing their heads off when they drop a bomb on them or lighting them on fire when they drop a bomb on them. What do you think they've been doing to Palestinian children? They've been slaughtering them one by one or a hundred at a time. What do you think happens when they drop bombs? So this is, so I love the flotilla, because they're putting a spotlight where it needs to be. And they're showing the world, the disgusting terrorist Ben-Gavir and the disgusting

terrorist government of Israel, the current government of Israel, and how they do their terrorism. So yeah, that's how they treat Palestinians on a daily basis, because they think they're Ubermesh, that they are superior, and the Palestinians are subhuman. And so he's saying, look, even though they look white, even though they are European, you should treat them like we treat the Palestinians, like subhumans. Terrorists! If you're still defending this Israeli government, you lost your moral threat at some point. You just lost it.

You're so blinded and biased. You're like, no, starving the children is a good thing. That's what the moral army would do, 87, 87. So like, I got it, I got it. But the rest of the world sees it clear as day. And the flotilla is just yet another example. And by the way, and I don't know if you know this part of the story. Rokana has been trying to get in touch with a Jewish American who's from California,

who was part of the flotilla. And Israel's like, shut up. For a long time, they would not even respond. And then he is asking our government, Marco Rubio, can you please find out the whereabouts of the American citizen there? And Marco Rubio, no response. Because the American government, they don't care about us. They don't care about us. No.

Are you kidding me? No, we're just pay pigs for that foreign government. They don't care about us. Marco Rubio was a disgusting hack. Did you know that Marco Rubio was vetted by Oracle founder Larry Ellison as he was running for the Republican primary in 12? Homeboy was literally sharing his presidential speeches with Larry Ellison for approval. It's disgusting. Hey, real quick.

Hold on. Hold on. Forget about that. We got to move on because I just want to give you one point of victory here. It's a small thing, but we got to take the wins where we can get it because the Israeli authorities were so obsessed and so preoccupied with detaining and terrorizing the humanitarians on the flotilla that it actually freed up. an opportunity for the Palestinians to do something they've been banned from doing, fish for food. Palestinians in Gaza can't fish for food because if they do, Israeli authorities shoot and kill them. And because they were preoccupied, the Palestinians that you just saw in that video were able to fish. I just wanted to share that with you. Yeah.

No, no, so that's actually super important. Because almost no one knows about it. As usual, American media say, oh, I can't criticize Israel. Israel has been purposely intentionally murdering the fishermen of Gaza. And you know why the fishermen? Because then they would be able to feed the population. And they want to starve the population. So they shoot the fishermen in the head.

That's why, oh, they're distracted. Let's go fish for a second without the IDF murdering us. So the IDF is obviously a terrorist organization. It's the biggest terrorist organization in the world right, Now it murders civilians on purpose way more than Hamas does. That's a fact based on IDF numbers, 83% civilian kill ratio. They intentionally murder fishermen, they treat Palestinians as subhuman. Israel has lost its way.

If you care about Israel, you need to stop defending these atrocities and try to get them out of the morass that they're in. But I know everybody's blind and can't see. I gotta say one last thing about the Marco Rubio. We did cover that on Friday's show, you should check out that video. And DropSight News is doing brilliant work. And Kate, if we can, let's drop their article about that story in the description box down below on YouTube because not only did Larry Ellison vet Marco Rubio on behalf of Israel,

this is back in the 2016 election, and then he sent a note back to the Israeli ambassador, he has been vetted, he will be friendly to Israel. He then sent him a $5 million check through a super pack. That's not even among the one million that Marco Rubio took. from APEC. And then if you say that out loud, American media goes, how dare you say things that are true? Don't you know the job of the media is to bury the truth on behalf of Israel? Trope. No, he's actually doing it. The Israeli lobby is actually buying off almost all of our politicians so that we will ignore the atrocious genocide that that terrorist government is

committing right now. We come back from the break. We'll talk a little bit about Project Honeypot that has been deployed by Israel. It's so obvious, you got to laugh at it. Come right back.