The Young Turks - The Young Turks 11.17.17: Keystone Pipeline, Tax Plan, NorCal Shooter , and Bipartisan Gun Control

Episode Date: November 18, 2017

A portion of our Young Turks Main Show from November 17th, 2017. For more go to http://www.tytnetwork.com/join. Hour 1: John, Michael Shure, & Ben Mankiewicz. Keystone pipeline spills oil. Orin Hatch vs Sherrod Brown over tax plan. Treasury chief goes on Fox to sell tax plan. NYT investigates bombings. Robot can do perfect backflips.  Hour 2: Ana, Ben Maniewkicz, & Brett Erlich. Woman with “F*ck Trump” sticker has been arrested. Gene Simmons banned by Fox after crazy behavior. NorCal shooter had history of shootings. Bipartisan bill to on background gun checks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ben and Michael joining me for what should be a good first hour, I think. We might continue. We always say that before the show, though. We always say that. We're hopeful people. It's going to be a great hour. It's going to be an awesome. hours.

Yeah, yeah. Can't be that every time. Well, sometimes we're lying because we look at the rundown, we know it's weak. Well, that's perfectly fine today. Today is a fine lineup. We've got some serious stuff, and then we also have something that has no purpose being on the rundown, except that I'm leading the show, and so I get to put it there. So it'll be fun, though.

That'll be our dessert if we get through all the important topical policy stuff. Yeah, it has nothing to do with video games. I love Game of Throat. It doesn't have anything to do with it. I have more than two interests. I have three, and this is the third one. He's truck out. I like your cars.

What's that? I like your cars. Have you heard about the Tesla Roadster? Come on, everybody. I know there's a lot of haters of electric cars out there. It doesn't make the right noise. They've ordered them already. Really?

Yeah, they're like, they're getting big corporate orders for this thing. Now look, I know that like Tesla's new, like the truck and the roadster is not going to convince people necessarily that they need to switch over because the roadster is going to cost a billion dollars. But if you have, no, you caused this. But when you see that this car can go more than 600 miles on a truck. charge and has a zero to 60 of 1.9 seconds, how can you deny that the future is electric? Okay, now it's going to be a great show. Okay, now it's going to be a great show. I'm excited, okay? I'm going to get one of those someday. Anyway, let's jump into the big news then. Unfortunately, we're going from electric cars to something related, but sadder.

Yesterday, there was an environmental disaster that literally no one could have predicted. No one did predict it actually. It has to do with the Keystone pipeline. It actually had a spill. Like the oil that's supposed to travel inside of it got out somehow, which seems impossible. I know it's made a metal, but it actually happened. The pipeline leaked Thursday morning, spilling about 5,000 barrels of oil or 210,000 gallons of oil, southeast of the small town of Amherst and northeast South Dakota. It's like a logic puzzle to figure out where in South Dakota that is. But anyway, the pipeline has also had other smaller spills, by the way.

400 barrels each in 2011 and 2016, all in that same area, actually. In response to the reports coming out that that spill had actually happened, Transcanada said it shut down the flow of oil on the pipeline at 6 a.m. Quote, after a drop in pressure was detected in its operating system resulting from an oil leak that is under investigation. They give the rough idea, basically, of where it had happened there. And I know, it's like, what do you say at a time like this? the oil got out in the ground. Yeah. It seemed like such a sure thing.

Well, it was a sure thing. It leaked. It did leak, and it leaks all the time. And so they were talking about this leak and there were the two similar size leaks. But we did a story like six months ago. I think it was in Oklahoma. I'm not 100% sure there. Maybe you can find the video of the hundreds and hundreds of not reported leaks that have happened throughout.

I think there was Missouri or Arkansas. It might have been somewhere around there. But it's just a rude. thing now. It's not necessarily always 210,000 gallons. But, you know, jokes aside, like we've been saying the whole time, leak after leak after leak, we come back and say, hey, maybe this is inherently a dangerous way to fuel an economy. There's not a lot of damage done routinely from solar or wind leaks, okay? Maybe your hair gets messed up a bit, but that's about it. Well, easy, partner.

It's a disaster for Ben. It depends on the day. The other thing here, and I have no expertise to lend to this, except that the number of times that a company has reported a leak and that leak has been an accurate depiction of the leak, zero. I mean, so when they say to, I mean, I hope it's true, but when they say

generally 210,000 gallons, it turns out it's 2,210,000. Yeah, God only knows. Yeah, I mean, the general operating procedure at environmental disasters like this. Energy company disasters, I mean, look, we all saw China syndrome. Of course. Well, John didn't. Right. It's a film. No, you downplay it.

And so I hope that when we hear the truth about the leak, that it is no greater than that, but I wouldn't be surprised. But, you know, they say they explain it away, too. They said, well, this was caused by something that was installed improperly. Well, okay, right, that's what can happen if you have that.

And then they said, like, based on what we know, and you'll probably get to this jump, but based on what we know, it hasn't affected the water table or the base of what, right? Right, based on what we know, but it could have, but here's when it wouldn't if it weren't there in the first place. Yeah, look, if there was evidence that it had happened in the first 24 hours, that it affected the water fine, but I'm not simply going to trust that because you haven't detected in the first hour, we're good. And I know that the tribal council in the area has put out, you know, they're talking about working with the federal authorities to try to contain this because obviously they feel responsible for that area, although they are not responsible for that pipe. That's TransCanada that does that.

But there's a huge water reservoir there, like in that area, not a reservoir technically, but there's the body of water that could potentially be contaminated. And I'm glad that you brought up that, oh, it was just because of a ring that was wrong or there was a bad seam. But like when we said that this was going to happen, what did you think we thought was going to happen, that the pipe was evil and wanted to spill? No, there's going to be some sort of mechanical failure. Part of selling this is knowing that we expect there to be a leak,

so that when there is a leak, they can blame it on something. something. Or say, look, there are a few leaks here and there. That's part of getting this thing working. But, you know, when it's a catastrophe, then you can't really use that argument. So that's why it's so critical to undersell the catastrophic part of this to make it seem like, hey, this is a problem, we're fixing it, but this is routine. This is what happens when you have a pipeline. No one, after the Challenger blew up, would say, you know, it was just a little problem with the O-rings. Right? What we did was the O-ring? What we need to do is tighten the O-rings, and then it's fine, except seven astronauts are dead until you can't make that.

argument. Exactly. It was some tiles, too, I think. I'm some tile. I think that was actually I'm not an expert. It was the o-ring, but it was the tiles that... Right, but because the O-ring was not sufficient, I think, caused the failure of the... Now we're getting into John territory with this conversation. I don't appreciate that. Anyway, let's jump back into this because obviously this spill is in its own right a terrible thing, although inevitable, and we will see others. You know, at some point, we'll all be back here, maybe all three, we'll be sitting here and we'll be talking about the next 300,000 gallon leak or the next two million gallon leak. Or maybe we'll be talking about the endangered species that were killed in this

particular leak. For now, though, we have this one. And it comes at a particularly interesting time, actually, when it comes to these pipelines and Transcanada. So if you bring up this map here, you're going to see the darker line there, the black line, that is the Keystone pipeline. And if you see as it crosses through South Dakota, roughly about halfway down through South Dakota is where it's spilled. But you also see those other colored lines there. And that's where we get into Keystone XL, the expansion pipeline that was rejected by President Obama. And what's interesting about that is, although after his election, President Trump issued an executive order to clear obstacles so that that could be made, it's not just up to him.

Actually, TransCanada still needed a permit from an independent five-person Nebraska Public Service commission at some point in the future. Actually, it turns out it's just in the next couple of days. They're going to be ruling on this in just a few days to see whether Keystone XL should actually go forward. Look, again, I do not like people who speculate without knowing, and I know nothing about this. But man, given the timing, right, just reminded me when I read this the first time, that given

the timing, the incentive to lie and to undersell the league is overwhelming right now. I thought you were going to predict, like, sabotage and something. But, yes, you're right. I mean, the mere fact that there was a leak that spilled 210,000 gallons of oil, I think should be enough for a commission that, by the way, it was already, you know, they weren't just behind this Keystone thing entirely. You pointed out that President Obama, you know, blocked it and... Yeah, but he didn't really mean it. Right, right, right. And that's why Trump, of course, didn't.

But also, Secretary Clinton, when she was running for president, said, finally, even though a lot of people, didn't buy it at first, that she was not in favor of the pipeline. And so, I mean, when pressed, she didn't come out against it. What's that? They're the same. They're the same. They're the same, right. Yeah, of course they are. They're exactly the same. Never mind. Okay, let's get back to the pipeline. So, yeah, you're right. Oh, I'm sorry. We got a tragedy here, people. Okay. So they're considering the possibility of finally approving that the Excel expansion to this pipeline, which is a problem, not just because it creates more pipeline that can have fault points like this, that could

lead to more spills like this, but it means that overall more oil will actually be pulled out of the ground and transported and burned. And that's really one of the problems here is that the particular type of fuel that we're talking about that these pipelines are transporting is not just the normal bad for the environment fuel, it's particularly pollutey and bad for you type of oil. Maybe we should leave some of it in the ground. That would be a good idea. Now, the question is, after this, will there be more pressure on the Public Service Commission to shut this down? I don't know. I assume that at some point, considering that Donald Trump, I looked back and he has tweeted over the past six years or so about the Keystone XL pipeline, literally dozens and dozens of times. He returns this. This is long before he was running for president. He was pushing for this thing.

And we can go back through just a couple of his tweets that are very particular to what happened yesterday. He said in August of 2015, if I am elected president, I will immediately approve the Keystone XL pipeline, no impact on environment and lots of jobs for U.S. If I remember correctly, the estimate of the number of permanent jobs that would be produced by the Keystone XL pipeline was between 40 and 45. At the time, it was described as a Denny's worth of jobs, which is great. I love Denny's and I love three dozen and a half jobs. But I don't know that that's necessarily merits a presidential tweet. And where he says no impact on the environment is great too. Because based on what they know, John, it hasn't touched the wall. Hasn't touched it. And he also said this, so sad that Obama rejected Keystone Pipeline,

thousands of jobs, good for the environment, no downside. And so, look, this comes after leaks in the Keystone Pipeline. This was not like, hey, maybe everything will be rosy. They already knew that this system wasn't being properly maintained. And so should we have any faith that he will learn from this particular leak and perhaps put some pressure on the Public Service Commission to shut it down? I sincerely doubt that at this point. I don't think we need to worry because Jeff Sessions is going to investigate these leaks. By the way, Kim McIntosh Environmental Scientists at the South Dakota Department of Environment National Resources says, in describing it, says as described, it's not a tiny leak by any means.

and the last spill in the pipeline about 400 barrels of oil in Hutchison County in April 2016 took about 10 months to clean up. They've had a couple of those, but I'm not mistaken. A couple of those around 400 barrels. She said this will take much, much longer than 10 months to clean up 20 months. I can't predict whether it will take 20 months or 12 months. So even as described, a major spill. Yeah.

And like you said, there's every possibility that in a few days or in a week or six months, we'll find out that it was far worse. I mean, well, the president's right in one sense, because the jobs that these spills create in cleaning them up, that's true. Unbelievable, right? I mean, this is a real job boon to have this oil spill out all over the place because you need people to come in and clean it up. Yeah, look, I have to say, we've been reporting on these particular pipelines for what

feels like years at this point. And the massive opposition to them, I found to be inspirational for a long time. The fact that Obama was pushed to not allow the expansion, that there has been a lot of debate inside of Canada about it, that the economy is changing in ways that it became at least temporarily not profitable to do this sort of extraction. But they still, they were rushing now. They see the day when people realize, and it becomes more economically feasible. It's already economically feasible to do solar and wind. But they see that day rapidly coming where there will be no room left in the market for them. And it's clear that they want to extract every drop of money, not oil, money that they can in the meantime.

And the problem is that when you're just rushing to do it, not only are you more likely to have spills like this, but the carbon still stays in the atmosphere. It's not like, well, later we get solar and so we'll be cool in the end. It's terrible that they have such a strong champion in the White House right now during a critical period immediately preceding renewables really taking over. By the way, there's a great tweet you didn't read, but you pulled it up. Trump from 2012, March of 2012. Pathetic, Barack Obama did not want to veto Keystone himself, so he lobbied the Democrats in the Senate to defeat it. How is that pathetic?

It just seems like governing. No, I don't want to do it. That's the first thing. It's a hypocrisy. I'm going to sort of have done legislates. If we can get a consensus here. If we get a consensus and do it, let's see. I'm going to govern it in both ways.

He's not attacking him for his executive orders. That's right, yeah. Yeah, anyway, so unfortunate story there, but important that you know what's going on. With that, we're going to take our first break. When we come back, we're going to touch base again with the Senate version of the tax plan and the current debate over that after this. What's up, everyone, Anna, Ben, Brett. I got the BB with me, the BB gun.

That's us. Yeah. The BB gun. expect our second album out by the summer. How are you guys? I'm good. I've got a tickle in the back of my throat. Well, hopefully you don't get laryngitis like I did. Really? I don't know.

But you have, so you're coming out of it now, sort of? Yeah, but I feel like I'm, I feel like my voice is gone. Like, this is it. This is how my voice will be for the rest of my life. I don't know whether I'm able to say this in the new world that we're in, but that's very sexy. Yeah, I was thinking it, but I'm like, that's so funny. Whether it's true, whether it's accurate or not, that's the thing to say is like when someone, Someone's throat is messed up. You say, well, now you sound sexy.

But it's true because I, I, you know, Suzanne Plachette. You know Suzanne Plachette. I do know Suzanne Plachette. She was on the, but she's older than you people. She was on the, she was Bob Newhart's wife on the original The New Heart Show. That's what it is. And she was in the birds with the tippy headroom. But she, uh, but her voice, she'd had a dark, smoky voice.

She always felt like she'd smoked 17 cigarettes right before they shot the scene. Guys, too. Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying, I always. was responded to his ample chat and I hear it now. And so I, I, I'm going to start a singing career. I try to say goodbye. Anyway, but, all right. That needs to be clipped out.

We have a show. We're about to do a show. Okay, if you insist. You guys have already experienced show. But it's Friday. So I feel like my rundown's random. So sit back, relax, get ready to have some fun. I will be honest.

I saw this thing. I saw this picture that is on the, I think this, this shy chat of me, this will help people out. But I just caught a quick glimpse of that picture. I looked over at Brett's stack, and I just thought, oh, cool, we're starting with a story about McChag. No, I'm not trying to knock her. I just saw

the hair, and I was like, oh, let's Mick Jagger. Yeah, yeah, she does have, like, the, you know, feathered hair. Okay, well, let's get to that story because it's actually an update to something that we did earlier this week yesterday, to be exact. We need to talk about a relatively new show called Un-Fing the Republic, or UNFTR. As a Young Turks fan, you already know that the government, the media, and corporations are constantly peddling lies that serve the interests of the rich and powerful.

But now there's a podcast dedicated to unraveling those lies, debunking the conventional wisdom. In each episode of Un-F-The Republic, or UNFTR, the host delves into a different historical episode or topic that's generally misunderstood or purposely obfuscated by the so-called powers that be, featuring in-depth research, razor-sharp commentary, and just the right amount of vulgarity, the UNFTR podcast takes a sledgehammer to what you thought you knew about some of the nation's most sacred historical cows. But don't just take my word for it. The New York Times described UNFTR as consistently compelling and educational, aiming to challenge conventional wisdom and upend the historical narratives that were taught in school.

For as the great philosopher Yoda once put it, you must unlearn what you have learned. And that's true whether you're in Jedi training or you're uprooting and exposing all the propaganda and disinformation you've been fed over the course of your lifetime. So search for UNFDR in your podcast app today and get ready to get informed, angered, and entertained all at the same time. A woman who was the target of a local,

sheriff in Texas over her use of a bumper sticker that he did not like has now been arrested. This is an update to a story that we did earlier, and it's regarding a woman who had a bumper sticker on her car that had a bunch of expletives directed toward people who voted for Trump. Now, the sheriff who saw this bumper sticker or saw a picture of the truck with the bumper sticker had wanted to target her for prosecution, and then he realized, oh, maybe there's some freedom of speech issues there, and maybe I should take my post down. Well, here's the update to the story. Karen Fineska, who is the woman with the truck and the bumper sticker, was arrested Thursday

afternoon for possession and use of a fake identification, jail record show. A spokeswoman for the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office told BuzzFeed News that it received a tip Wednesday that there was an outstanding felony warrant for the driver. And so my guess is she probably became or her identity became public as a result of this big story that went viral. And then maybe someone looked into her past, her record. I don't know, but someone tipped the authorities off to her. And for those of you who might not have seen the bumper sticker in question, here's what I was talking about. It said F Trump and F.U for voting for him.

And then the sheriff Troy Nels from Texas said, I've received numerous calls regarding the offensive display on this truck, as it is often seen along FM 359. If you know who owns this truck or it is yours, I would like to discuss it with you. Our prosecutor has informed us she would accept disorderly conduct charges regarding it. Now, there have been a number of cases that were ruled by judges, federal judge. indicating that you can't go after people for things like this, for a bumper sticker that might be deemed offensive. So he later took down that post, but she ended up getting arrested anyway for unrelated charges.

Yeah, I hope she can prove it. I mean, the fact is, you know, I'm sure they didn't make up the charge. It probably existed, but they were thrilled to find it when they searched her because they target her for prosecution, right? They were like, let's dig up something, let's find something, and they found something. I hope she wins everything. I hope she wins everything. I hope she wins harassment.

I hope she makes these guys pay. Fortunately, the ACLU has told her to get in touch. Yes. Because it's not, I mean, it's been very clear. You're allowed to use four-letter words. Yeah. That's a protected speech. You can use it in a bumper sticker.

You can use it to fly a flag from your house. I would have gone a different route with my Trump protest. Just because, you know, again, I do think, yeah, you're on the street and kids and they're going to be like, hey, what's that? I wouldn't have gone with that. I would have objected on those grounds a little bit to somebody who had F Obama and F. Obama and FU for voting for them, which I'm sure probably existed in Texas. But they're not the same. There are reasons to hate Trump, and there weren't reasons to hate the other guy.

I have a shirt that says I got bourbon-faced on Shit Street that I bought in New Orleans. And I bought it, and I was like, this is the most clever thing I've ever seen. I need this now. Also, I think I had been drinking. So I bought it and I occasionally would put it on. But I wouldn't go outside. I would go like, oh, God, this is not, this isn't going to work. Go back inside, go back inside. Or if I like forget that I have it on because I sleep in it and I walk down the street and I realize I'm wearing it, I would do like the whole hand across. I'm like walking down the street like this because this is where the cusset.

You'd be like, it says Canal Street. Yeah, yeah. But I wouldn't, I would hope I wouldn't be arrested. But whatever, it's beyond that. It doesn't matter, whatever. She's allowed to do it and it's fine. Yeah, so she's protected by law for the bumper sticker. The other charges, I don't know anything about that.

So I don't know if she's actually guilty of anything. I just know that she has been arrested because there was an outstanding felony warrant. Troy Nels, let me just say this. I'm sorry, Anna, it was on my mind because, you know, when we, I mentioned this example all the time, but I think it's Bowers v. Hardwick, which was the sodomy case. And that's the one that got us out of it or got it? That is the case. I think that's the originally, original case that got us into it.

So that was because a cop went into an apartment because a name. neighbor complained because the neighbor knew that two gay men were having sex there and obviously a totally consensual relationship between grownups. And this is not a good look when the shirt does that. It's not good. I don't care for it and we'll be editing that part out. So I was like, what has happened to my shirt? Oh, that's me. Oh my God. So back to civil rights. Back to civil rights. So in Bowers v. Hardwig, the cop in Georgia goes into, the apartment, right? Didn't have to. Could have rejected the call a lot of steps along the way. Or if you felt compelled to because the person could you knock and you go, hey, you got a neighbor

who complains. So, I don't know, maybe keep it down so they don't complain. But I didn't sign up to be a police officer to come in here and arrest. I'm making the ages up and arrest a 34-year-old man for having consensual sex with a 31-year-old man. That's not why I got into this business. And Troy Nells, you got into this business because somebody saw this truck and because you like Trump or you are offended by people who find this incredibly offensive person offensive that you decide that you're going to take time off the public dollar that you're getting paid for to protect us and keep bad guys off the street that you think I'm going to spend my time doing this. Here's what you say to the person who calls. Hey man, it's America. Hang up the phone.

Be rude like so often you probably are and hang up and go to your job. Do your job. This is not your job. Thank you for your concern. Thank you for your concern. I understand that this could be unnerving to you, just the expletive used, steer it away from the name. But it has been upheld in the courtroom. Okay, nothing we can do about it. Something great about this story is it gave me a chance to go look up other anti-Trump things you can buy. Oh, there's stuff. They just looked up. I'm very excited. There's an, it's just amazing stuff. Like, there's a red bubble t-shirt situation you can get into. My favorite is it looks like it says it's Miller time, but it says it's Mueller time. I've seen that one. I've seen that. I've seen that. I've seen that. I

I've seen that. I think I saw it on Twitter. There's one that says it's written down in a very like Disney style t-shirt design that says super callous, fragile racist, sexist, sexist Nazi potis. Nice. Okay. So good. And it doesn't take up as much time. There's a pin you can get that's an umpalumpa of the president. It's just him, his face on a umpa lupa. And then there's like this whole toilet subgenre of things you can buy. The toilet subgenre.

I have the toilet paper. which my mother-in-law gave me as a gift. But there's also like the poo emoji sticker you can put on your it's Trump's face and the poo emoji and then also like a decal you can put guys urinals have like sometimes like a little B that you pee on just so it doesn't

that's like the non-splash you can put a whole Trump decal inside your toilet and pee on it every time if you want to express yourself I'm gonna I'm gonna I may take a controversial stand here. I reject all of those. I really those make my skin crawl and I hate him.

It's okay. I get it. You can sell them, but don't do it. Don't do it. Don't buy any of that stuff. Don't support that. It's cool. Yeah, I think for me, the big thing is whenever you want to buy it or not, do you boo? Like, I don't care, right? But I just don't like owning or displaying

anything like that because I just don't want people to talk to me. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're inviting people to talk to you or interact with you. And look, the vast majority of people are fine, but I still don't want to talk to you. Like, I don't, I don't- This sounds like a non-political statement. No, no, no, no. No, no. It's actually strictly political. Because if someone approaches me and wants to talk about something else, then I'm all for it.

Like, I'm not going to shut down immediately. If you want to come up to me and talk to me about Trump and politic, I don't want, I don't want to talk to you at all. I don't want to talk to strangers about, and I don't want to invite it. You know what I'm saying? because people are insane right now. Yeah. And people are unhinged and like mentally unstable and do all sorts of crazy things. You see all sorts of crazy videos out there.

People confronting each other violently. I'm not inviting that. And I think, look, I support this woman. I support anyone who wants to display any type of political speech. That is your right. But it is risky too. So there's like a little element of courageousness in what she's doing because she's in freaking Texas where, you know, the majority of people in her district voted for Trump.

And so she's like, I don't care. I'm going to have this. I'm going to, you know, display it loud and proud. Yeah, you know, that's good. I agree with you everything you said. And I really want to just reemphasize though. Troy Nels, go to your job, man. You're a sheriff's deputy. Do your job. This is not your job. Yeah. All right. By the way, one real, real quick story that I experienced with John, right after Trump got elected, John was wearing the bitchy rich shirt with Trump on it. And we were getting lunch at a local grocery store together. And this woman, like, walked right up to him and she's like, what does that mean?

And I was like, it means he's bitchy rich. That Trump is bitchy rich. Our president, he's bitchy rich. That's what it means. And what did she say back? Well, I was kind of like combative immediately. Really? Were you in a bad mood because of the election?

Can't tell. Yeah. And then she just, she walked away. She walked away. But like, well, we had an, uh, interactions like that. We had a party I didn't invite you to. And, um, it was the, uh, Trump, oh my, my year anniversary. Oh my God.

You didn't invite me to it, though. John did. I didn't. Um, it was the, oh my God, he's still in power hour. And we had, um, we edited a video of like Trump inspired music. And after every minute you take a shot of beer and it plays like a little clip of him saying, like, some, I assume are nice people. and then there's that.

But I had to go run out and get the tiny finger sandwiches so for everyone to eat. I don't think you need the word tiny. Yeah, but like the tiny hand, tiny finger sandwiches. It was a joke. Oh, okay. But I had my shirt on already. And for it, we had shirts that said, are we great yet?

That's so good. So I was out in, and you can buy them online. It wasn't our idea. But I was out at the supermarket and multiple people asked me, like, where did you get that shirt? I mentioned I wore the kofi shirt. that we have. It's the only sort of TYT product that, well, I'll wear a hat or something. But I won't wear any, I won't watch, wear a Jurassic prick, right?

And, but Cofofi's funny. And, I mean, at the airport, it's crazy. I mean, 15 people must have stopped me and ask me about it, right? Really? Yeah, it was mostly. More than half of voters by statistically would have agreed with you. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I know, but it does, you're right. Even if they agree with you, but that's what I'm saying. I just don't, I don't want to talk about politics. Yeah, I mean, unprovoked, like you might want to talk about politics. You might sit down at Leo and meet an interesting person and talk about politics, but it's not going to be, it's not going to be someone raised. What you're looking to avoid is encountering someone raised to ire over your choice.

Also, I don't like statement teas in general, because I feel like people are walking around with them. Like, let's talk about my shirt now. Right. So, I mean, I'll forget that I have that shirt on. I'm not a huge bumper sticker fan for that reason, unless it's clever. Right. You know, Adam Carolla is a very funny bumper sticker. Like, you know, just like, you're out on the street.

You're sharing it with other people. Like, why you make it? What is his say? You know, he's like, don't do it. Like, don't have a bumper. Don't like, don't like, go. You know, hey, man, I'm just driving down the street. I like Trump.

Why now I hate you? You know, or so like that this isn't really the best way. So, I mean, but I would part company, but it's funny when it was his thing and it's thoughtful. But, but, you know, I like a retro. You know, I like a Kennedy 68 bumper sticker. Like, that's, right. That's cool. It doesn't seem like that's going to really bother anybody.

Or like a have a good day. Yeah, that's clever. It's just something, right, yeah. Something boring. All right. Let's move on to someone who... Mick Jagger wasn't in that story at all. No, no, she just had similar hair, and it was out the corner of your eye.

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women can really wield their power if they put some lipstick on. His quote also was to lift, separate, and point them in the general direction of men referring to women's breasts. You know, if women are looking for a promotion or some power in life, well, of course, he offended some people, but that didn't stop Fox from inviting him. on. So Simmons had come to Fox to do an interview with Maria Bart Romo on Fox Business's Mornings with Maria to promote his book. Right after that, things really started to fall apart, okay? So Bartramo's studio is located on the third floor at Fox News and Fox Business

headquarters in Midtown Manhattan. After the interview, he went to the 14th floor for an entertainment feature where he began acting improperly. And that's where things really started to get crazy. So there was a video shared by one of the Fox hosts that kind of illustrated the beginning of him losing his mind and doing things that ended up getting him banned. Here's the very beginning. Take a look. Gene, right over there. In addition to power, would you like to do precipitation? Oh, my gosh. Gene Simmons is doing weather. Come over here. Janice. The lighting is better here.

Janice, Jean is now the weather machine. We are maximizing Gene Simmons potential with the weather maps. Let's take a look at it. Show me. Give me some temperatures. Well, if you're in Provo, of course, why aren't you? It's 32 degrees Fahrenheit as opposed to Celsius. Now, Albuquerque, which is difficult to spell, but I know that because I used to be a sixth grade teacher, is now at 43 degrees. Okay, so there, he's already kind of starting to get a little aged.

What a ham. Right, what a ham. This guy is a ham. He doesn't need to have his face painted to be entertaining. He really gets it going. I love when someone on an interview just like gets up out of their chair. Yeah. And then, oh, what's going to happen?

And next, obviously the weather in this case, but you never know. In the old days with the wired microphone. No, you'd kind of fall back in your chair. Yeah. It's a little creepy, though, on the set. Well, this is where things started to get crazy because... So far it's okay. So far it's okay.

There's nothing wrong with that, but that was kind of like the beginning. Not that hard to spell Albuquerque, by the way. But in doubt, it's a you. Oh, okay. Hey, you. Then all of a sudden, he goes into a staff meeting, barges in, interrupts it, and starts antagonizing the women in the room. He was quoted as saying, hey, chick, sue me.

And he said that while pulling open his velvet shirt to expose his chest and stomach. He was wearing a velvet shirt. We saw it right there. Good point. This checks out. Then he started telling Michael Jackson pedophilia jokes, because those are always fun. And then bopped two employees on the head with his book, making derisive comments about their comparative intelligence, according to the sound their heads made when struck.

This is an insane, this is like a lot of weird stuff is happening in the story. Good job of whoever wrote this article to use the word, Lloyd. Lloyd used the word bopped. Yeah, bopped, yeah. Like, this is a story in an era of sexual misconduct reporting and sexual harassment claims where he used the term, his term, bopped him on the head with a book. Yeah, that's what happened. So, can I chime in with something here that I know about Gene Simmons? So, Gene Simmons is a huge fraud.

I don't mean talent-wise, he may be talented. I don't know, kiss isn't my bag, but I get it. People like them, and God bless them for that. Everybody's got their own taste of music. He is, I believe, threatened and easily, and wants to prove to people how smart he is. There's an interview, which everybody, I hope, is probably still available. He did with Terry Gross on Fresh Air, on NPR, probably like four or five years ago. And, I mean, his behavior was so offensive.

And I don't say offensive. Like, I don't mind when people get offended. We don't have a right not to be offended in this country. Sometimes you're going to be offended. There are serious issues which we're dealing with now, but getting offended is, I don't think, one of them. But I just mean offensive to the soul, not like we should reprimand him, just like, who is this guy? What did he say? He kept correct. First of all, I didn't know we were to talk about it today, so I don't.

He kept using big words, probably some of them right, but some of them wrong. But in a way that was like, look. On July 18th, get excited. This is big! For the summer's biggest adventure. I think I just smurped my pants. That's a little too excited. Sorry.

Smurves. Only in theaters July 18th. Look at me. Like, you saw it there. I was a former 6th grade teacher. He can't let that go. He thinks he's smarter than everybody else. But I'm telling you, he isn't.

He's dumb. Gene Simmons is dumb as dumb as a post and is constantly trying to show off how bright he is. How much, how he's your intellectual equivalent. Whereas nobody cares. I don't know. I don't go around in the room. room's wondering, none of us do thinking, oh, boy, I hope people in here are my intellectual equivalent.

It's not something we concern ourselves with at all. But he wants to prove something. He has no sense of humor. None, none, none, none. His whole sense of humor is, ah, outrageous. You didn't think I would do this, but I did. But my hand right there. So I just kept thinking, wow, total fraud.

Everything about this guy is wrong. My dad, God bless him, God rest of his soul, used to have a great expression. He would just like analyze a story, any story that involved. a Jewish person or Israel or anything, he'd read the story, and then he'd go, mm, good for the Jews, or bad for the Jews. Right. And as it says here in this story, you know, he he he hemorrhitz, his name, and he immigrated, immigrated the U.S. in 1987, Gene Simmons, bad for the Jews.

Yeah. Wow. Well, one person quoted at Fox told the Daily Beast the following, it was pretty severe. Yeah, he is. Like, it's got to be bad if he's permanently banned from Fox. So I don't know what's going on in his head. He just doesn't seem like a great guy to be around. Listen to that interview sometime.

And Terry Gross, man, I mean, if you ever get, I mean, if you don't appreciate Terry Gross and I have a significant admiration for her, this is a, you know, it's the thing I like to be good at is doing these interviews and she's, she's very good at it. And she was a, she did turn. She didn't like stay fully composed. She did it perfectly. Like at some point, she was like, what's wrong with you? Why are you talking to me this way? Oh, by the way, I'm leaving out. He was also unbelievably sexist, like out of control sexist.

So it's worth, I hope it's up somewhere. It's worth, it's worth listening to just in terms of Terry Gross's absolute professionalism and competence and his sort of outrageous simpleton behavior. This story does, you know, the fact that he's banned from Fox, it's kind of a sign of the times because if this happened two years ago, they would have just offered him the APM slot. Probably. That's right. All right, we got to take a break when we come back some news stories for you guys, including pretty terrible shooting that occurred in California, a shooting that could have easily been prevented.

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