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Episode Date: January 8, 2021Mike Pence certified the Electoral College results and declared Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 election. Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian discuss on The Young Turks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priva...cy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Casper, are we going to have anything but fun?
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And most of all, though, soon, we will have change.
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Mm.
Okay.
Come on.
The fun has been gone already.
Stop it.
Stop it.
Let's do this.
Anna Kasparian.
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com exists, but I haven't updated that thing in a while.
Jenk likes to have like a steady IV drip of MDMA prior to doing the show with me,
which is why he's so hyped up. But anyway, we do have important stories to share with you.
And I'm hoping that in the second half of the show, which I will be hosting with Francesca Furentini,
we get to the story about what the Senate looks like now that John Ossoff and Raphael Warnock have won the Senate runoff races.
What does it mean about the power shift and the power dynamic in Congress?
It's a really important discussion to have.
So I'm looking forward to that. But of course we have updates on what happened yesterday
with these Trump zealots storming the Capitol building, vandalizing the building,
threatening members of Congress. A lot of updates on that and more.
All right, let's do it.
All right, sounds good. Let's start off with what happened in Congress yesterday.
Vice President Mike Pence has declared Joe Biden, the winner of the general election.
I really don't know how many more times I need to say that Joe Biden won the general election,
but it is now a week, I'm sorry, a month and a half out since Election Day and just yesterday
after domestic terrorists disrupted the certification of the electoral votes, Congress did
reconvene in order to officially certify those electoral votes.
And so let me give you a little detail, a little video, and we'll discuss at 3.32 a.m. Pence cited the results for Biden's victory in Vermont, which pushed the Democrat past 270 electoral votes for Congress to confirm him as the next president, nearly 15 hours after the joint session began. And here's a little snippet from how that went down yesterday.
The votes for President of the United States are as follows.
Joseph R. Biden Jr. of the state of Delaware has received 306 votes.
Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida has received 232 votes.
The whole number of electors appointed to vote for Vice President of the United States is 538.
Within that whole number, a majority is 270.
The votes for Vice President of the United States are as follows.
follows. Kamala D. Harris of the state of California has received 306 votes.
Michael R. Pence of the state of Indiana has received 232 votes.
The announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the Senate shall be deemed a
sufficient declaration of the person's elected president and vice president of the
United States, each for the term beginning on the 20th day of January 2021.
and shall be entered together with the list of the votes on the journals of the Senate and the House of Representatives.
Now one more time with relish, down goes Donald Trump, down goes Donald Trump, down goes Donald Trump.
So, guys, the upside of Donald Trump conceding, un-conceding, conceding, conceding, un-conceiting, un-conceiting, never really quite conceding, is that we got to beat him eight times over.
We beat him on election night. We beat him on election week. We beat him in the courts. We beat him in the states. We beat him in the voting booth. We beat him in the marketplace of ideas. And now we finally beat him in Congress. We have beat him silly. I told you, loser Donald, going out in spectacularly loser fashion, just as predicted. So Donald Trump now.
completely and utterly out of options, this thing is over, over, over, over, over, over.
There's nothing left.
There's not even any conspiracies left.
And I told you at the end that he would look for a little bit of a feeling out whether
it could be a military option.
And they did, just like we told you guys, Michael Flynn went in there, talked about a military
option near the end, martial law.
Donald Trump had hours of conversations about it at the White House.
And at the very, very end, after that option was exhausted, you would have the violence.
And there we had it.
Yesterday we had the violence.
Well, now that that's done, there's absolutely nothing left other than a swift kick to the posterior of one former president, Donald Trump.
So let me give you the other side of it.
First, something to buttress your point and reinforce it, according to the Washington Post,
shortly thereafter. Donald Trump, who had defiantly told supporters at a rally that he would never
concede, said in a statement that, quote, there will be an orderly transition on January 20th.
I have been buttress. I have been buttress. Yeah. But also now I'm going to give you the other side.
The other side is Donald Trump is a liar and you shouldn't believe anything he says.
The inauguration is still going to take place on January 20th. And based on what we experienced
yesterday, I'm a little concerned about whether or not, you know, there's going to be violence
there. But one other thing I wanted to mention is this isn't over, Jank. Maybe, you know,
if we're lucky, this particular chapter of Trumpism is over. But remember, tens of millions
of Americans, 70 million Americans voted for that guy. 70 million Americans think that guy is
fantastic. And I don't think that is going to go away. I think that's something.
that also needs to be addressed in the coming years. I'm worried that the Biden administration
isn't going to, you know, appropriately address some of the fundamental issues we have in this
country. But either way, I mean, I guess I'm not as celebratory as you because I'm looking
to the future and there are huge questions ahead and I don't know if this country is willing
or ready to address them. Okay, so Anna, too, I'm looking at the future and I am bursting with
hope. Now, let us acknowledge that. You love doing that. I know, which I love. I love. It's good.
I love it. Is that blue icy? It certainly ain't red icy. Okay. By the way, one more time,
Maga. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Oh, what was that about an election meltdown?
I don't remember us invading the Capitol and bringing things inside and getting people killed.
I believe an election meltdown was what we saw yesterday.
All right.
Now, back to the buttressing.
I appreciate that I've been duly buttressed.
And I accept your counterpoints fully.
But let me acknowledge and then get past it.
So it's true, 74 million Americans did vote for Donald Trump, and they're not going anywhere.
And they are largely still on his side, even though he has now lost the overwhelming
majority of Republican politicians.
because it just, the lunacy wound up at their doorstep, right?
So it's the analogy that's often used as Frankenstein, and they did.
They built this Frankenstein.
They did it, built it through the Southern strategy.
They built it through the dog whistles that the Republican Party has been doing for decades.
They encouraged racism.
They encouraged fear.
They encouraged hatred.
And they built up a monster that was inevitable.
It happened to be Donald Trump.
But if it wasn't Donald Trump, it would have been another right wing populace who came in
and did very similar things.
So we actually dodged a bullet in a sense.
We got lucky that this Frankenstein, they forgot to put the brain in.
Okay, so, okay.
And next time, let's hope they don't get it right.
But Anna, you're absolutely right that the establishment has had a hand in building that
Frankenstein by not acknowledging the massive problems in this country.
Now, the reason that I am hopeful is because I think that there are enough progressives in
Congress. And there are enough progressive groups out there now and enough power in those progressive
groups and legislators that we can begin to make a significant difference. And already, look at this
Cory Bush on day one goes to expel the Republican traders. The Democratic leadership would have
never done that. Never. In fact, they didn't love this idea in the first place. But progressives
are saying, sorry, sad day for you. If you're not going to fight them, we're going to fight him.
So step aside, Butch, we got this. So we will challenge not just the Republicans, we will challenge the corporate Democrats. And when we do in the new day now where there is a bigger and stronger online presence and the media, the mainstream media is having to acknowledge and respond to that presence, we will start to pile up victories. And from now on out, it's going to be a very rough right. I don't want to get anybody to get wrong. Anna's absolutely right. There's massive.
populism on the right. They're not going to go away. There's populism growing on the left.
There's a healthy and then there's an unhealthy version of that populism. But I think out of that
mark is going to rise us, all of us together. You guys, us, the people that you have supported
and we're going to grow into a force that challenges the Bidens and the Pelosi's and the
Schumers of the world effectively. And finally says, are you going to do this or not? And so
going forward, a lot of the show will be about how do we bring that change to you guys,
How do we fight every step of the way to make sure that we can get those bills past that actually
affect your lives?
But the first and most important step was to make sure we didn't lose the country.
And we almost literally had a war on our hands yesterday.
And the reason I'm celebrating today is not just because Frankenstein has been put down,
but because we have finally gotten past the fascists so we can now move on to the fight, which
arguably has been a longer and harder fight with the establishment. But we would have never
gotten to that fight if we'd lost the country to the fascist in the first place. So you should
take a minute here to have a sigh of relief and have a drink or whatever you do and toast
the fact that we have retained America. Now we'll move on to perfecting the union.
Well, let's talk a little bit about Republican lawmakers who enabled Donald Trump throughout
this entire process, but then immediately changed course once they realized just how bad
it is to enable someone like Trump. So we begin with Lindsey Graham. Senator Lindsey Graham decided
to abandon the sinking Trump ship following thousands of Trump supporters crowding and then
breaching into the Capitol building yesterday. They vandalized congressional offices.
offices. They, you know, in some cases, we'll show you video and pictures later, but one
individual was shown with zip ties on the house floor. I mean, it was just absolutely horrendous
behavior. And Lindsey Graham probably realized, oh, maybe, maybe I need to change my tune and
abandon Trump right now. And so he did. As you guys know, Congress was certifying the congressional,
I'm sorry, the electoral votes. And that was part of the reason why you had this angry Trump
mob storming into the Capitol building. Now, after that disruption happened, Congress did
reconvene. They finished the process. But before they did so, of course, there were still
some GOP lawmakers who spoke out and challenged the electoral votes. Not Lindsay Graham, though.
Lindsay Graham decided to go in a different direction. So we're going to show you a little bit of
his speech. But I want to be clear about something before we go to it. This is not rehabilitating his
image, okay? I want to be as clear as possible about who Lindsay Graham is. Lindsay Graham has
no principles. He has no values. In fact, the only thing he values is himself and his own political
career. So even though he seems to talk the talk here, do not forget about what he actually
represents. Let's take a look. It is over. The final thing, Joe Biden, I've traveled the world
with Joe. I hoped he lost. I prayed he would lose. He won.
He's the legitimate president of the United States.
I cannot convince people certain groups by my words, but I will tell you by my actions
that maybe I, above all others in this body, need to say this.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are lawfully elected and will become the president and the
vice president of the United States on January the 20th.
So Mr. Tough Guy over there, again, he said what he needed to say.
And so I'm happy that he gave the speech that he gave. But I'm not happy with the media
essentially forgetting about everything that he has done to aid and abet these false allegations
regarding widespread voter fraud. He aided and abetted. In fact, I want to just remind you
you all about one example, and then we'll go to you, Jank. Let's take a look at what he had to say
when he was on Hannity fairly recently. I'm here tonight to stand with President Trump. He stood
with me. He's the reason we're going to have a Senate majority. My race was overwhelming.
He helped Senate Republicans. We're going to pick up House seats because of the campaign that's
President Trump won. I'm going to donate $500,000 tonight to President Trump's defense legal
fun. I've been on your show. You've raised a ton of money for me. Your audience was incredibly
helpful to lindsaygram.com. Give to Donald J.Trump.com. What an incredibly embarrassing
man. Jank, what are your thoughts? Yeah. So, look, we needed the Mitch McConnell's and
Lindsay Graham's of the world for one day, one day to not join a violent coup against the United
States of America. The lowest bar in American history, and they eeked over it. They just, they like,
flopped over the bar of, okay, fine, we're not going to take part in the violent coup, and that's a bad
idea. Fine, I guess we still have democracy. So great, I'm glad they did that. The certification
is a billion percent over. Now they're totally and utterly useless, and they should be attacked
at all times. So it's not personal and it's not that we're attacking them because we randomly
hate civility. That's what the mainstream media tells you. Oh, like the progressives,
they have no real reason to oppose Republicans or corporate Democrats. They just don't like to be
civil. What an insane way of thinking. No, you attack Lindsey Graham because number one, the truth
matters. And that guy spent four years up Donald Trump's ass. And so now when Trump has him exit
that orifice, and he's swimming around in the pool, I'm not going to go around going, hey, what a great
swimmer, congratulations, Lindsay. No, not congratulations. You're a monster. And you're the most
obvious lying hypocrite of all time, as we're about to show you in more videos. And so, no, you don't
get any credit. You don't get any credit, Lindsey Graham, you snibling, lying little coward.
And then secondly, as we go forward, there is strategic reasons to fight them. They are going
to oppose the $15 minimum wage. They're going to oppose so many things that are going to help
you in your life that are actually easy that the whole country wants, including Republican
voters. So since the corporate Democrats and the mainstream media will not do it, it is our
job to point out that people like Lindsey Graham hate the average American
voter. They hated our democracy in the first place. And now they're going to try their hardest
to deny you health care, to deny you higher wages. And when they do, we're going to be here to
kick their ass. Lindsay Graham suggested throwing out ballots in order to help Donald Trump
steal the election. So I don't even consider him a run-of-the-mill Republican lawmaker that we're
going to debate with or battle with when it comes to policy. He's someone that absolutely should be
prosecuted right now. He should be investigated for his part in enabling, aiding and abetting
Donald Trump and his smears and lies regarding this election. Lindsay Graham is absolute garbage
and does not deserve any type of leadership role, any type of position of power within our
government, because he has proven over and over again that he's only looking out for himself
and he's willing to aid in about anyone, even someone who's trying to dismantle our democratic
process or overturned legitimate results of this election for his own political gain.
And I do have more video to prove my point on that.
So let's go to the next video to give you a sense of, you know, just how much Lindsey Graham has played a role in all of this.
Has I tweeted on lynching this morning comparing it to his impeachment inquiry.
What is your reaction to that?
I think it's pretty well accurate.
So yeah, this is a lynching in every sense.
This is un-American.
He keeps telling me that the phone call was perfect.
I'm saying, Mr. President, the phone call was okay with me.
I'm a brain on to Iraq, and I believe that you do, the President Trump is not acting in the court of those.
But you took an idea that you took another.
You took another.
I mean, you have.
Is that it?
That from the time President Trump wakes up to he goes to bed, there's an effort to destroy his president.
Looks like a fun day.
It was a fun day and Trump's the best golfer.
You're the best golfer.
By far, David Perdue is the best golfer, second only to the president.
And when anyone tells you who they are, you should believe them.
Lindsay Graham was incredibly transparent about what motivates him, why he decided to become
a Trump loyalist after he was elected when during the Republican primary, he was vicious toward Trump.
And during an interview with the New York Times, he said exactly what he repeated, exactly what I'm saying and accusing him of right now, that he will do whatever it takes for his own political gain. Listen.
I like being relevant. And the way you stay relevant is you stay engaged. There's a lot of space here to take on tough issues because most people shy away from them.
So Lindsey Graham said, like, John and I were relevant together. I mean, it was like we're sharing a meal together. We're sharing a value system together.
value system was relevance. And I was confused by the word. I said, what do you mean by that?
And he said, relevant is like in the middle of everything. Relevant is you're making a difference.
It means that during the time in which you possess political influence and power, use it.
Yeah, and the question that was posed to him in that interview was, you know, how do you reconcile
the fact that Donald Trump was so vicious your good friend John McCain? And now you seem to side with Donald
Trump on everything. And he answered with that statement about how relevance is more important
to him than doing the right thing, really. So that's who Lindsey Graham is.
Yeah, look, last thought on this is, I'm curious how the rest of the media is going to handle
this. Our job to seek out truth and to share it with you to the best of our ability.
So we're never going to mince our words. Lindsay Graham is a liar through and through. The
world's biggest hypocrite. You saw that with what they did with the Supreme Court. You saw
Lindsey Graham vociferously opposing Donald Trump before the election. You saw him kissing his
ass during his four years. And then you saw him at the end saying, Donald Trump, what name so?
No, no, no. Biden's president, everything's good. I don't have anything to do with this violence,
right? Sure, sure, sure. Now, you fed that wolf, Lindsey Graham. That's the wolf you chose to feed.
And you did it for your own ambition, and you even admitted it.
So will the rest of the media go back to giving him credibility?
Will they go back to saying, oh, my assumption is that Lizzie Graham is telling the truth and that he has an ideology and that he's trying to act within his principles?
Because if they make that assumption, they are lying to you on purpose.
They know just as well as we know and you saw it with your own eyes that Lizzie Graham does not have any principles.
He's a lying hypocrite, weasley politician who just wants to be quote unquote relevant, okay?
So media, it's on you guys, if you're a set assumption is that politicians tell the truth.
That has not been borne out by the facts.
And the American people don't believe that and they are right.
If you continue to assume that politicians like Lindsey Graham are telling the truth, well,
Well, then you're not really reporters. You just aren't. You're people who help the powerful spread
their propaganda. Your base assumption should be that people like Lindsey Graham are lying,
and they have to prove to you that they're telling the truth, because that is a far more correct
and factual assumption. If you don't go off of that, it's just that you've chosen that you don't
want to do hard-hitting journalism. You want to accommodate power. And look, the good news is we don't
know which way the media is going to go. They did get tougher with Trump. They did get tougher
with power at the end. Are they going to continue that? Or are they going to go back to bowing their heads
to Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, and Lindsay Graham? Well, we're about to find out
real soon. When we come back from the break, we'll discuss how the right wing, both in politics
and the media, are trying to blame what happened yesterday in the Capitol on Antifa. So we'll give you
the details on that and more. Don't miss it. And for those of you who are just tuning in, Francesca
Fierentini will be joining me for hour two.
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Kavka says please shout out to the hero, my representative, Jamie Raskin.
He just lost his son, but then he led the certification and has to deal with the clown
coup.
So Jamie Raskin is wonderful.
He's not one of the loudest progressives, but he's certainly one of the smartest, most strategic,
and he's been wonderful throughout.
So there's some great Congress people there finally after all these years.
And by the way, you know who helped get him elected?
you guys did. And Representative Raskin always remembers that. He said at the very end of his
election, when we did a segment about it, all of a sudden all these volunteers poured in,
donations came in, and he's always been grateful to you guys. So I wanted you to know that.
And I love that you're looking out for him too. Okay. Now I'm gonna give you more here.
In Wolf makes a good point on the super chat. How long did Trump stick around after he told his
mob, I'll be there with you. His supporters should know he lied to them and used them and then
ran away. That's totally right. I was thinking, oh, really? Are you going to go in like Bain?
Right? And lead, you know, your mob of angry, deranged lunatics through the Capitol? No, of course,
he said, oh, you do it, you do it. Oh, you guys get arrested for it. You guys face serious
charges for it. And I'm going to slink out the back door. Classic Trump, classic Trump. Great point
by In Wolf, love doing the show with you guys. And Lisa Chapman with a great point. Trump and
others responsible must be held accountable for their actions and their accessory to these things
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We're ready for the next story?
Yes, let's do the next story.
All righty.
The right wing Trump enablers who rushed to find ways to blame others for what happened yesterday,
of course, are feeling a little guilty about the fact that they decided to enable Donald Trump,
amplify his unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud for their own political
gain for their own fundraising. And so let's start off with Matt Gates, because Matt Gates tried to
twist things in the direction toward the left, even though everyone saw video footage of the sea
of red MAGA hats. Everyone saw the signs, everyone saw the Trump flags. But Matt Gates is trying
to place the blame on a different group of people. Let's watch.
We really don't know who is behind this. I guess you could call these, for lack of a better word,
Antifa-like tactics. We don't know if Antifa's out there. You're going to see that 99% of this was
all peaceful and a handful of folks. And again, we've got it to the bottom of who they are, who they
were representing, decided to try and kick the doors down. If Antifa was there, we need to
root it out and to make sure that that's called out because it shouldn't be blamed on groups that
weren't responsible. I heard those reports, too, about possible Antifa infiltration.
There have been reports that there were instigators. There is no evidence or proof.
We also knew that there's always bad actors that will infiltrate large crowds.
And we had the reports that groups like Antifa, other radical groups, I don't know the names of all of them, that they were there to cause trouble.
Some pretty compelling evidence from a facial recognition company showing that some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters.
They were masquerading as Trump supporters and in fact were members of the violent terrorist group Antifa.
A lot of it is the media's fault.
But Martha, keep in mind, we don't know who all were the instigators in this, of these horrible things that happened today.
I think a lot of it is the Antifa folks.
I don't know.
There's a lot of questions out there, and I wish we could trust the media to do its job to go research, report who all these people are.
All right.
So Matt Gates was sprinkled in there along with other conservative media figures and politicians who,
tried to blame this on Antifa, even though there's absolutely no evidence of that. In fact,
Andy, no, who never passes an opportunity to blame something on Antifa, decided to just clearly
state on social media that, no, this ain't Antifa. But nonetheless, I also want to give you
some other insane conspiracy theory that was floated by people like Gates. The Washington Times
apparently reported a false story that was cited by Gates. The Washington Times report cited
by Gates and others claimed that a retired military officer had sent the newspaper a facial
recognition analysis of rioters by a technology firm called XR Vision. Those claims were echoed
by an unsupported story by the conspiracy hawking right wing site gateway pundit claiming that
at least one busload. They love buses. They always love to cite buses. One busload.
of Antifa thugs infiltrated peaceful Trump demonstrators as part of a false Trump flag operation.
Okay, so that company, by the way, came out and released a statement.
A facial recognition company says that viral Washington Times Antifa story is false.
Matt Gates had cited the story in Congress as supposed evidence that Antifa was involved in the capital assault.
but the company says it's outright false.
Because of course it is.
We know exactly what happened yesterday.
Let me just say, there have been some people online.
I don't know what their political affiliation is.
I'm guessing they're on the right wing.
But this argument that these domestic right wing terrorists who stormed into the Capitol
building proceeded to vandalize property, it led to a shelter.
in place order for members of Congress. It's the same thing, exact same thing as the Black Lives Matter
protests. But let's be clear about, first of all, the nature of what they did. There was a noose
that they put up right in front of the Capitol building. There were pipe bombs found. There were all
sorts of just incredibly depressing and terrifying things that went down yesterday, none of which
were seen during the Black Lives Matter protests. And also, Black Lives Matter protesters were
protesting about a legitimate problem in this country. The brutality that's been committed by police
across the country. And it affects black people disproportionately, but it also, of course,
impacts everyone. That type of policing is something that needs to be discussed and needs to
be addressed. What these Trump supporters were doing yesterday was they were attempting to overturn
the results of the election, essentially throw out the results of the election because they don't
like the fact that their dear leader wasn't reelected. They don't like the fact that the majority
of American voters decided to fire him and kick him out of the White House. So since they didn't
get what they wanted, they decided to show up to the Capitol building and try to get what they
wanted through force. And of course, they're gonna fail in doing that. But whether or not they
succeed or fail doesn't matter. What matters is what their intent was, what they were intending
to do. And there's no question that the underlying motivation here is to essentially completely
ignore our democratic process in order to get what they want. And that's, you can't compare that
to a legitimate protest like Black Lives Matter. Okay, so let me break down the pattern
of how this works. So the Washington Times now has retracted that story about Antifa, but it is
not stopping any of the conservatives on social media. That is where it began. But,
they then keep repeating it as if the Washington Times has not retracted the story. And the
company did not come out with a statement saying that it was patently false. So after all of their
believers believe it then, they then turn around and say, well, I mean, so many people believe
it, we have to, you know, assume it's true. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're the one who spread
the lies in the first place. You can't then turn around. Marco Rubio did the same thing today
about the election. He said, well, I mean, look, there's so many people who, and you've seen a thousand
Republicans do this. So many people believe that the election was stolen and it was fraudulent.
So we have to respect them. And I'm really angry at Joe Biden's speech, which was divisive,
because it doesn't respect the people who did not riot, but genuinely believe the election was
stolen. Whether that's true or untrue, it doesn't matter. Since we lied to them and got them
to believe that it was stolen, you have to respect their idea.
that it's stolen, you have to cater to their feelings.
And so in order to not be divisive, you have to hug them and say, oh, you're, oh, that's such
a good point about the election being stolen.
Oh, that's such a good point about how Antifa instead of Trump supporters did this.
No, it is not good points.
It is purposeful lies done by people like Matt Gates.
And I'll give Gates credit, he's smart, he knows, he knows that he's 100% lying.
He knows that.
He's not like Trump.
Trump's a delusional, low IQ person with real derangement issues, like significant mental and
psychological issues. Matt Gates is just an opportunist. He's like, oh, you know how I get more
popular than the right wing? I lie to them. They love it. They love it. If I tell them Antifa did this,
even though they see everybody with the Q&on things and the Confederate flags and the MAGA hats,
they'll believe anything. And then they'll think I'm a hero for lying to them. And he has correctly assessed
That pattern and that phenomenon. Now, important thing. Remember, Gates is the one who encouraged
all this in the first place. He's the one that led the Congresspeople to bust into a private
meeting in Congress. You remember that? Okay. So they began by saying, we don't care about the law.
We don't care about order. We don't care about privacy. We don't care about boundaries.
So they broke down a door to get into that private meeting in Congress and they filmed it
and laughed about it. And nothing was ever done. So now, is it surprising that Gates,
is excusing the actions of the people who broke down the front door to come in and do violence.
It's exactly what Gates encouraged, and he must be thrilled about how it turned out, because
it's helping his political career. And that's how Matt Gates thinks. Now, one more thing, guys,
this is about projection. When they say, hey, oh, there might be plants in the crowd,
you know why they say that? It's actually an old CIA tool, that's true, you could look it up.
The CIA would plant people in the crowd in foreign countries to agitate, to agitate. And
pretend that they're on the other side and cause violence. And so the right wing has always known
that and has from time to time actually done that here in America. Nixon used to do it all the
time. Again, you could read any book about it, you could look it up online. It has a clear
history of the right wing doing that in other countries and in this country. So when they
see the right wing doing the violence, they go, ah, it must have been the left wing plans,
because that's what we would do. We would plan people in the crowd to cause violence and then blame
it on them. I'm not, it might be interesting if we ever had anyone on the left who could
actually even think of something like that. But usually it's the Machiavellian guys on the
right who do it. Not usually every time it's them. So there is no truth to Antifa of infiltrating
MAGA. That's insanity. And I'm sorry, one more thing, Anna. The privilege that they have
is unbearable. I don't know if you guys saw that video yesterday of this woman named Elizabeth
where she had gotten maced as she was going in the building, one of the few people, the police
apparently took any action to bar from the building. And she was crying, like she couldn't believe
that she got mace for breaking and entering and smashing the door and trying to trespass
into Congress. She was like, I was just trying to break in. No, it was the most shocking.
I mean, she was so shocked that there were consequences for breaking into the Capitol building,
Like, shocked that she was pepper sprayed. Absolutely shocked. And look, I, we talked about the policing
yesterday, but we're going to talk about it again today because I think it's important to really
discuss how the establishment is using what happened yesterday as an excuse to not only continue
funding law enforcement, but to ramp up funding to law enforcement. Matt Iglesias
tweeted something along those lines today, which I find absolutely disgusting, because we know,
we know without a shadow of a doubt that we have more than enough funding in our security
state, in our surveillance state. That is not the problem. The problem here is why were the cops
in this case outmanned? Why did it appear that they were unprepared? What was going on behind
the scenes? Now I know I say unprepared and people get upset, right? But it appears that this is
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supporters to just, you know, break through, break into the Capitol building and do what they did.
I mean, they were so emboldened, Jank. They weren't even covering their faces. Okay, they didn't
have to hide their identities. They're talking to reporters all willy-nilly giving their first and last
names, where they're coming from, like that woman Elizabeth that you just cited. And that is a sense
of entitlement that gives you, I mean, I think all the proof that you need, that there is a
significant difference in policing toward certain movements like Black Lives Matter and,
you know, Trump fanatics and zealots who don't want to accept the outcome of the general
election. And look, yes, I believe race has a lot to do with it, but also keep in mind,
the police see BLM as their enemies. They do, because it's all about defunding police.
It's all about rooting out the rot that leads to the excessive force and brutality that so many
people are experiencing across the country today.
So they see BLM as enemies.
That's why, of course, oh, they'll be ready, they'll be ready for that kind of protest.
But when it comes to people who are Trump's sycophants and who have defended the police
historically, yeah, come right in, let's open the barricades for you, let's open the barricades
for you.
It's disgusting.
Well, I mean, there's literal video of the-
the police opening the barricades to let the right wing rioters in.
There it is.
And so has, have you ever seen, there's a guy on the other side.
Come on in everybody, we're having a riot.
Have you ever seen the police open barricades for African American protesters or
left wing protesters?
Protesters for peace.
Never, never.
All we get is the baton, the mace, and oftentimes guns, and certainly water cannons.
water canons, no water canons to be found here. And let's be, let's give you the facts. Only a third
of the Capitol Police were used. Why? I mean, I cannot imagine a day where you would need
the Capitol Police more than the day that the president said, why don't you come down to Washington
and let's do something about a so-called stolen election. Well, what the hell did you think was
going to happen? And so, but to them, Anna, this is the most important part. To them, when they see white,
right wingers. They assume good guys. As somebody I empathize with for the cops, it's like,
that's hey, that's my bro. That's my bro. So I open the barricades for them. Oh, we don't need
a lot of cops. It's just good white people, just good right wingers. They're good patriots.
You know, they won't do anything wrong except storm in the building, get people killed,
etc. But when they see black people, where they see left wing, they think, not me. I don't
empathize, I assume bad guys. Right, of course. That's the core of the problem of policing.
One more thing, Anna, sorry. No, but I got to add to that. Before you keep going, it's also the ties.
I mean, this has been well documented, well studied. You know, just the amount of known white
supremacists who have infiltrated local police departments throughout the country. I would be
shocked if they hadn't done that with, you know, DC police as well. It's there. It's a
real problem, right? And so BLM has a legitimate issue that they're bringing to the table,
that they want to do something about, and they're met with violence because the very people
who are policing these situations are the ones that they want to change. So anyway, continue.
I just wanted to add that. Last thing, when Black Lives Matter did a similar protest,
except with no violence at the Capitol, a little while back, five times as many.
cops were there as yesterday. Now, they had brought in people outside of the Capitol
police. They brought in all these different departments because they're like, oh my God,
there's going to be black people here. Oh, that sounds so dangerous. Lots and lots of black
people. Was it actually dangerous? No. But they had an army there to meet black folks who were
exercising their First Amendment right and didn't do any of this nonsense. The right wing
There it is. That's a literal shot from that day, okay? When white right wingers who say they have
weapons and who are saying they don't want this democracy to get certified and then they will
do anything to make sure it doesn't, can't find any cops. Capital police, what name so? People
in military fatigues can't find any. But what we could find cops opening the gates for the rioters.
So if you can't see that double standard, you're trying super hard not to see it.
We've got to take a break. We'll be right back.
Thank you.
We're going to be able to be.
All right, back on the answer.
There's so many comments that I want to read.
Linda Rivera wrote in on super chat.
Jake, I happen to be a Raytheon employee who also supports the progressive movement
and TYT.
I think the work that I do with the company is valuable to our society.
You seem to demonize corporations as if they should
exist, I feel torn thoughts. No, no, no, Linda, not at all. Actually, a very close family
member of mine works at Boeing. And so, and the district I ran in has tons of those contractors
and they have employees that work on great projects related to advanced science,
related to satellites, etc. But I don't want them buying our government. I don't want
them contributing millions of dollars. And then yes, unfortunately the main product is defense
and so-called defense. It's actually offensive weapons. So do we need defensive weapons? Yes.
Do we need as many as we have? Absolutely not. Is it because of the corruption, do their
political donations? Absolutely. So Raytheon should exist, Boeing should exist, but they should not be
able to contribute to and hence by our politicians. So, but thank you for asking for the
clarification. Pamela Barboto, Stephanie McKinney, Amber Bridges, Lalla Bella, all just
join, hitting the join button below on YouTube. And Cheryl Copp and Quinn Wolf also upgraded
their membership. You can do that with the same button. Everyone else, well actually it's just
you guys on Twitch that see this. So Haggis the Dragon, aka progressive pirate, writes in our
member section, did you see the guy that brought the zip tie handcuffs? Trump sent them to
kidnap and possibly murder his own vice president and Congress members. Now look, I don't think
that Trump was that specific. But did he threaten Pence over and over again?
in that rally? Yes. And did he say, hey, everybody go down to the capital now? Yes. And was Pence worried
for his life? Yes. Is he actually now super mad at Trump? Yes. There's a report out. Even remember
Inhoff used to be the most insane right wing senator. He's from Oklahoma. He's the main
opponent of doing anything about climate change. He works for the oil companies, basically.
Even Inhoff was like, I've never seen Pence so mad, and what Trump did was outrageous,
because they actually worried about Pence's well-being.
They're worried about their well-being.
They're worried about their well-being.
They're worried about our well-being.
They're not worried about our democracy.
They're not worried about the Constitution.
They're worried about their well-being.
People showed up to their house.
I'm going to be able to be.
All right on the United States.
All right, back on the New York,
Church, Jake and Anna with you guys.
take it away. All right. Well, now that a day is passed, the FBI is asking for any information
regarding the identities of individuals who were part of the angry, violent mob that breached
the Capitol building and then proceeded to vandalize congressional offices and threatened
congressional lawmakers who had to evacuate and then shelter in place. Pipe bombs were found
near the RNC and the DNC. There was even a Molotov cocktails found, you know, in a cooler,
showing you what kind of weapons they were planning on using. Luckily, you know, they didn't use
those weapons. They were found by authorities ahead of time. But there was one woman who was shot
within the Capitol building. Right now, it appears that she was shot by D.C. police.
And unfortunately, she died. But I do also want to talk a little bit about the people.
that were identified already because I think it is important to have a fair justice system
in the country. We know full well that if a person of color decided to break into the Capitol
building and it wasn't tied to throwing out our system of government in support of Donald
Trump, maybe the situation would be a lot different. But nonetheless, here's who we know
were there because they were brazenly live streaming and bragging about being there. There's
the white nationalist baked Alaska, who I'm proud to have ignored up until now. But his
name, his real name is Tim Giannett, better known as Baked Alaska. He's a white nationalist
activist and was among the insurrectionist who stomps the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday and
breached security to enter. Gianette also streamed more than 20 minutes of his activity inside
the Capitol building on the blockchain service, D. Live. And 16,000 people were watching him live as
he was doing it. Let's take a look at this tweet that gives you some stills of what his live
stream looked like. Noted Nazi white supremacist baked Alaska is streaming from inside
the Capitol building office, writes Brandon Wall on Twitter. Nathan Bernard also shared
some information about who was there. Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and neo-Nazi loser
Baked Alaska both live streamed from Pelosi's office after storming the Capitol, neither have been arrested.
And to give you some more info on all this, at one point, according to Insider, he suggested he would sleep inside a lawmakers' office.
He's talking about baked Alaska here and used the desk phone to call President Donald Trump at another point in the stream.
A police officer inside the building appeared to be taking selfies with the rioters, a video that we showed you guys.
And then one other thing for all the right wingers who are trying to pin this on the left or Antifa,
I want to show you one of the people who decided to be part of this disgusting effort.
He's wearing a shirt, a hoodie specifically, that says Camp Auschwitz,
just giving you a sense of what Trump and his supporters represent.
Absolutely disgusting, hideous behavior.
And there should be consequences for this.
Absolutely.
This was criminality and they should be held to the same standards as anyone else who would do the exact same thing.
Well, I have a little bit of breaking news on this too, Anna, but before I get there, let me just note.
This is a side note, but really important, that sweatshirt about Camp Auschwitz, it's not an outlier.
People that have talked to banger guys, including Walter Masterson, who I interviewed here, but many others too.
They say both on camera, but especially when you turn the camera off, when you ask them who's really at fault, they say the Jews.
So watch out. Over the next four years, anti-Semitism is going to be unfortunately on a significant rise as this far right-wing guys get more and more angry, more and more frustrated.
And, you know, the Trumps of the world keep feeding them lies about how, oh, the elites are.
They're controlling their lives, not through the normal things like campaign contributions,
etc., which actually is true, but through like, oh, the Jews and Soros, et cetera, and they're
manipulating the immigrants against you, all this nonsense, and they're believing it.
So that's a really dangerous toxic stew that they're cooking up there.
Now, the breaking news, the CNN just interviewed, their correspondent, L. Reeve, just interviewed,
one of the MAGA guys who had broken into the Capitol.
She asked, you know, why'd you do it?
First thing he said was, well, Rudy told us to do trial by combat.
So we did trial by combat.
There you go, okay?
But then he went on to say this.
So now mind you, these guys are pretending that, oh, yeah, maybe it was Antifa.
No, no, no, no, MAGA all the way through.
And earlier in the show, we talked about the cops and how they opened the gates.
Anna talked about how they were taking selfies just a minute ago.
Well, here's the guy's direct quote about the cops.
There's one of the guys who broke it.
The cops were very cool.
Apparently they told them, quote, hey guys.
have a good night. And remember a lot of them on their way out after they had broken in,
after they had caused the violence, after they'd caused chaos, they were just escorted out of the
building, not arrested. Unbelievable, unbelievable. And then one more quote from the guy who broke
in, he said, it's crazy, very weird. You can see that some of them are on our side, referring to
the cops. Yeah, indeed, I can. And that's part of the problem. And finally today,
at Rush Limbaugh, on his way out, is trying to ferment as much violence and get as many
people hurt as possible. He talked on a show about how some right wingers are backing away from
these protesters and rioters because they were violent. And he says he is not one of them.
And he's glad that the American revolutionaries resorted to violence. And that you have to do
that in some circumstances. So that's who the right wing is. They naturally gravitate to violence
because they would rather have power than justice.
I also want to just quickly note, going back to the man wearing the Auschwitz hoodie,
yeah, there was a guy wearing Auschwitz hoodie. I have no doubt that there's anti-Semitism
within this group of rabid Trump supporters. But some of you might have also noticed in
wide shot photos of the crowd that there were also, I spotted at least one Israeli flag,
which I just don't get it.
Like I don't get how you could have so much pride and love for Israel and then associate
yourself with a group of people who are openly anti-Semitic, so much so that one of them
feels comfortable enough to celebrate what happened in Auschwitz.
Like it's unbelievable.
But also I wanted to note in regard to the police, this is also a breaking story from
Kristen Wilson over at CNN.
She writes on Twitter that a US Capitol police officer involved in the riot.
at the Capitol yesterday has died. That's according to two USCP sources. So we also know that
aside from that one woman getting shot and killed within the Capitol building, three
others, three other protesters died from what was referred to as medical emergencies. But
I don't know what that means. I don't know what the details of those medical emergencies are,
but people did die from what took place yesterday.
Yeah. All right, let's do the next story.
All right.
So, Jenk, you have wanted to talk about the 25th Amendment quite a bit, and now we get to talk about it in detail.
So Trump administration officials have been considering invoking the 25th Amendment for Trump following the violent mob that broke into the Capitol building yesterday and proceeded to vandalize congressional offices.
And of course, Congress had to evacuate and shelter in place until it took hours for cops to finally get control of this crowd.
Now, officials, according to the Hill, have exchanged calls and messages about the extraordinary measure,
which would require a majority of cabinet officials plus Vice President Pence to declare to Congress that Trump is unable to fulfill his duties as president.
By the way, we're hearing more and more from Trump administration officials who believe that he's mentally unstable and unfit to be in office.
The discussions appear to be limited, and it's not clear whether they have reached the level of any cabinet officials.
It's not clear that officials would actually move forward with invoking the 25th Amendment or that enough cabinet members would even support it, particularly given Trump, has only two weeks left in office.
So one White House official says that Mike Pence has not been contacted about this effort.
So that's according to what was reported by the Hill today.
Who knows if things have changed since then?
But I think that the 25th Amendment made a lot of sense way earlier in his first term.
But of course, Trump administration officials have always been afraid of him.
They won't stand up to him.
and they know what the consequences will be if they even try.
So unfortunately, this is an effort that I think came a little too late, but we'll see what happens.
So let me give you some updates on that too.
So first of all, CBS is Margaret Brennan reporting that there was at least one cabinet official that was definitely talking about and considering using the 25th Amendment.
So it's not just assistance or some sources close to cabinet officials.
It's the cabinet officials themselves.
So Mike Pence's reported is furious at Donald Trump and thinks that, of course, he's got stability issues.
Look, the guy declared himself very stable.
Only unstable people do that.
They've all known it all along, but now it's just blowing back on them.
And I made a great point at some point in today's show.
Look, the only reason why all these Republicans are upset and everybody in Washington is upset is because finally the violence came to their doorstep.
When the right wing was attacking synagogues, they were attacking immigrant communities,
they were trying to blow up buildings, and they were trying to murder the governor of Michigan,
unconcerned, unconcerned, unconcerned.
When it shows up at their doorstep and their lives are a little bit in danger, oh my God,
did you know that this is dangerous?
Yes, we've been telling you that all along.
But since it affected the cabinet officials and the vice president, that is part of the reason
that they were considering using it, also because a source told CNN that it's a close
Republican close to the president who talks to him on a regular basis, saying he believes
the president is now, quote, out of his mind. And everybody in the White House is worried that
Donald Trump is going to provoke more violence. And if he does that, they don't know what to
do with him. And remember, it looks like when a defense department came to Trump and said, well,
Will you please order the National Guard in to restore order?
Trump said no on multiple occasions.
What is unclear is who actually gave the order to actually bring the National Guard in.
It looks like it was Pence.
That means in effect, they've actually already used the 25th Amendment,
even if they didn't go through the legal process.
Now, think about it, guys, there's only two weeks left, so why would you bother doing it?
But imagine if we were attacked now.
Imagine if there was an emergency, something that happened where another country did something
to us.
Do you think the military should go to Donald Trump, who's clearly deranged at this point?
Hell no, they should not go to Trump.
They should go to Pence.
And so the 25th Amendment is real.
They should act on it.
And he's also so unstable, they're worried that they're all going to go to jail.
Let me give you one quote here that's really important from a recent Vanity Fair story.
And then I'll tell you, unfortunately, why probably 25th Amendment is not going to happen, okay?
All these are important.
So quoting Vanity Fair now, the West Wing staffer told a friend that the White House counsel, Pat Cipollone, was urging White House officials not to speak to Trump or enable his coup attempt in any way so they could reduce the chance that they could be prosecuted for treason under the Sedition Act.
Quote, they're being told to stay away from Trump.
Now, if in the White House, there's an order by the White House counsel to stay away
away from the president, because if you talk to him, you might be tried for treason.
Well, obviously, we can't have the president fulfill his duties.
So they should definitely, definitely do the 25th Amendment, even if there's only two weeks left.
But having said all that, here's your most important indicator.
Elaine Chow was a cabinet member and who's married to Mitch McConnell is saying that she's
going to resign.
Now, if there was going to be a 25th Amendment, Elaine Chad would have to stay to vote against
Trump. Because now Mitch McConnell is furious with Trump, and she's part of the establishment,
she always has been, and she would vote against Trump. She's leaving. That's an act of both fake
objection to what Trump did, and also to get the hell out of this so she doesn't have to vote
on the 25th Amendment. So that means it probably will not happen. And why? Because of the coward
Republican establishment led by Mitch McConnell, and in a lot of ways, Elaine Chow, who's been in the
cabinet of nearly every Republican president of my lifetime.
Yeah, I mean, they are. They're such cowards. And they've enabled everything that we've experienced
under the Trump administration. In some cases, they went even further than enabling.
In some cases, they absolutely supported and played an active role in accomplishing some of the
horrific things that Donald Trump has wanted to do, including, yes, his
his viciousness at the border, you know, the ridiculous trade wars that he engaged in that
didn't actually amount to anything that improved manufacturing jobs in this country.
I mean, the right wing has been horrible all the way through Trump's term.
And it doesn't surprise me that, of course, rather than holding him accountable in the last
minute, they're going to go ahead and jump ship or try to do whatever they can to rehabilitate
their own reputations.
But I'm not buying it.
I know exactly what they are.
And as I've said before, I'm going to say it again, all of these Republican strong men who
pretend like they're all about national security and doing what it takes to protect this country,
all of them were easily castrated by Donald Trump, who's perhaps the stupidest person I have
ever seen in politics.
And that's saying something.
There are some pretty dim individuals that we've experienced.
But with that said, we do have to take a break.
When we come back, Francesca Furentini will join us to discuss the very GOP enablers who still decided to challenge the electoral votes yesterday after right-wing extremists stormed the Capitol building.
And later in the show, we'll also talk about who else is quitting from Trump's administration.
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