The Young Turks - The Young Turks - October 30, 2020

Episode Date: October 31, 2020

Two grand jurors from the Breonna Taylor case speaking out, and the Kentucky Attorney General is not gonna be happy about what they're saying. Ana Kasparian and Jayar Jackson discuss on The Young Turks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We're going to be. What's up, everyone? Welcome to TYT. I'm Anna Casparian. Joining us for this lovely Friday is our very own J.R. Jackson, producer extraordinaire, regular guest on damage reports. I don't know, do people also call you Dragon Daddy? I'm not sure, but people should let me know. Yeah, well, if they do, I would tell them to please stop. And then we can carry on like we like each other, You know? Fair enough. Fair enough.

Mainly because I have no idea what that would mean. And I've been hearing the dragging squad every Wednesday. J.R. Wednesday is, by the way, on TDR. I hear it every Wednesday, and I still don't know what it means. Yeah, I mean, the thing is, if anybody were to be called Dragon Daddy within the TYT work environment, it would be John. So I get it. I just don't know, like, if I want to really understand the extent of, of, of you know.

extent of that whole situation. But what I do want to talk about today is how incredible our audiences. You guys are amazing and you guys give me life, honestly. Yesterday, Jank and I got into a pretty heated discussion about an issue that obviously we both care about. I care about a lot. And I was worried about how the audience was going to respond to that. But what I really appreciated was, A, I have a working relationship with Jenk where we can challenge each other and there's no hard feelings. But more importantly, you guys got something out of that conversation and it gave you some perspective. It made you want to learn more about the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh. And it made me realize we just, we have the smartest people watching this show. I'm so grateful

for you guys. And considering how incredibly intelligent and brilliant you guys are, it makes me feel even more proud that we're mostly funded by you. And as you guys know, we've been doing this fundraiser. We're trying to raise $200,000 each month till the end of the year to keep TYT sustainable. And we just got a massive matching donation from Ashley, Ashley Wilkes, who has been a longtime supporter of the show. He's actually donated money to our cause before. But what he wants to do is encourage everyone to keep contributing to this fundraising effort, t.yt.com slash go is where you can contribute if you would like to. And I want to talk a little bit about who Ashley is, because just learning about him was pretty incredible. So he lives in a remote

part of Minnesota. He's surrounded by people who are pretty conservative. And, you know, he's been holed up as many of us have been during this pandemic. And so he says that watching this show really helps him get through it. And he specifically gave a shout out to the TYT, TY Tarantino special, which, you know, I thought it was really fun. I was drunk when I was doing it, and I was over about that. But it was a fun time. I mean, I really enjoyed it. I thought everyone's personal stories and how we all ended up at TYT was great. But he loved it and he wants to encourage anyone who hasn't seen it yet to check it out. And he says he believes in our mission and that we represent a critical voice in promoting the kind of progressive change that the country

desperately needs. He also has incredibly nice things to say about Jank, me, John, J.R., and even about Brett. That was like a special note in the section here. And so thank you. We love you guys. Thank you to Ashley for your support. On my hardest days, I think about you guys, and it helps me to keep going. So thank you. And just a side note on the audience and everything. Specifically, Ashley, awesome. Thank you so much. There's so many people that are on that level with us, but I interact with the audience a lot, and I love it. It's, it's a, you know, we feel like we, I hear people say they feel like they know us, and I feel like I know them, and it's just as important that we feel like we know you, especially when

it comes to the way, you know, social media and craziness that happens. So the real people that you come across are even more, I think more important to really have the opportunity to feel like you know. So everybody that I talk to and interact with on all the social media platforms. I know you. I love you. I feel like you're like a good friend of mine. I love starting the show with the pushing stuff. Makes me feel good. Okay, well, it's good that we got ourselves feeling good because the next story is infuriating and it's an update on Brianna Taylor. They never gave us the opportunity to deliberate on anything but to charges for Hinkleson. That was it. As a matter of fact, when they announced that those were the only

charges, it was an uproar in that room. There was several more charges that could have gone forward on all of those officers, were at least the three shooters. Two of the grand jurors who heard the case against Louisville, Kentucky cops, who entered the home of Brianna Taylor with a no-knock warrant and then murdered her, shooting multiple rounds into the apartment. They've come out and they've said that the district attorney, or I should say the attorney general in the state of Kentucky, has not been forthcoming, has not been honest about the actual charges that were presented to the grand jury during this case. They didn't even get the opportunity to deliberate on possible homicide charges. Now, these two jurors felt the need to come forward

after seeing how the prosecutor spoke about the grand jury's decision and felt that he was being misleading and misrepresented what really happened. So the jurors received permission to come out and speak. They don't want their identity to be released because of safety concerns. But they have spoken to CBS's this morning. And I think their side of the story is really, really important. Remember, not a single one of those cops was charged with homicide. No one was charged criminally for what happened to Brianna Taylor specifically. There was only one cop, Officer Hankison, who ended up facing charges for wanton endangerment because he ran into the parking lot and just started shooting indiscriminately.

And some of those gunshots went into an apartment where there was a pregnant woman. Luckily, she wasn't hurt. but seems like nothing's going to happen in regard to criminal charges with Brianna Taylor. And the grand jurors want to explain to the public why that is. Let's watch the first video. At their request for their safety. They didn't give us the charges up front. When they gave us all of that testimony over 20-something hours and then to say that these are the only charges that they're coming up with.

It's like, well, what do we just sit through? And then to be told that we're not charging them with anything else, to me it was a betrayal. Why is this so extraordinary, Kevin? Normally, the grand jurors are presented with the law and the charges so that they can listen to the facts with an open mind and apply those facts to the law, almost as a roadmap. What happened here? What happened here was it was done in the complete reverse. What stands out to you the most? From a legal perspective, it looked like they weren't.

following the grand jurors and they only wanted the grand jurors to follow them, which is contrary to the actual rule. So while I've never been on a grand jury, I have served as a juror before. And the thing that really did stand out to me was that, yeah, the charges, they explain what the charges are in the very beginning of the trial. And then they explain to you what needs to be proven and what the burden of proof is in order to find someone guilty. And the whole reason why they do that upfront is so when you're listening to the evidence, right, then you know what to listen for. You need to find the actual evidence that proves the charges that are being brought forth.

And then when you're deliberating, you can cite the evidence that you heard that either proves that the person did the crime or disproves it. That's how it's supposed to work. They didn't even tell the jurors, according to these two grand jurors, what the charges were until after they heard all the evidence. So the grand jury has to come up with the decision of whether or not to proceed with these charges, right? Again, everyone is expecting on this day to get a yes and on. In fact, I think many people didn't expect to get anything on these charges. So the anger was there, but there wasn't much surprise there. I've got to be honest.

Now, if you weren't even presented with the opportunity to deliberate over the charges, or over what the charges could be, how could you charge someone? This isn't, no, this isn't a verdict type of thing that they were looking through. This isn't them deliberating on whether or not they're gonna send these guys to prison for 20 years. That wasn't it. That was in order to go forward with the trial that encompasses these charges. Not done.

Not done. So we don't get the opportunity to get the, to dive deep enough into the details given to a jury to decide whether or not these guys are guilty or not, to decide whether or The whole, everything that happened, all the actions that happened on that night were justified, honestly, to get to the real scene of the story, because we got two opposing accounts that were told to everybody. So we didn't even get that far. And this is what we're arguing about, whether or not we should get charges, bro. Charges. And this is what we didn't get a chance to get.

Exactly. And so, and thank you for differentiating between a grand jury and a regular jury. A regular jury needs to either find the person guilty or not guilty. In this case, yes, you're correct. They're trying to figure out whether or not there's enough evidence to continue on with the charges that have been presented by the prosecutor. And the thing is, as you mentioned, the prosecutor didn't even give them a chance to consider homicide charges.

And that is explained by the grand jurors in the next video. Let's take a look at that. Our investigation showed and the grand jury agreed that Mattingly and Cosgrove were justified in the return of deadly fire. When he stated that there were six possible murder charges and that the grand jury had agreed that those didn't apply, the first time I heard the word six possible murder charges was in that news conference. It wasn't presented to you in the grand jury deliberations? No. And personally, when I do something, I take responsibility for it, we had not done that.

I really felt that. This was all Cameron. This was up to him. We didn't get a choice in that at all. So I was livid. By the time I heard what he was saying, everything that came out of his mouth, I was saying liar. Because we didn't agree to anything. We never met Cameron.

Yes, and that's Attorney General Daniel Cameron who allegedly lied to the public about what the potential charges were, lied about what the jury's or the grand jurors agreed on. J.R., take it away. Okay, so as we, again, it's almost we have to remind everybody what's been happening since that day when they decided, when they said that the grand jury decided not to pursue charges. Since then, one particular juror that's been anonymous has been trying to come forward to tell his side of the story, to tell what he said happened and what he experienced and then what the result was told to the public. There's been stormwalling, there's been pushback, there's been excuses as to why we can't let this guy talk. There's been, oh, we're looking to protect him. All these things have been said since then so that this juror won't speak about what actually happened. Nobody finds that fishy.

Nobody finds that as a reason to investigate why the people that are in charge. of whether or not this grand jury saw the evidence that they claimed that the grand jury saw, whether or not the grand jury can come forward and say so or not, why is that the problem suddenly? There's such a lack of credibility from everybody on this side of this story. If you put yourself in that position of that's your family member, you'd be pulling your hair out, you'd be at front of that courthouse every day, you'd be knocking on Cameron's door, calling him, sending emails, trying to get something going, because that's your loved one, one's life that was lost. And we didn't get a chance to even deliberate on the actual evidence.

Now, Donald Trump likes to say he's done more for black people than anyone else since Abraham Lincoln. And that's based off of his criminal justice reform. So I just want to point out, what part of criminal justice reform is going into fixing things like this, where you have a state's prosecutor and a Cameron in here, stonewalling, hiding evidence, lying about. what they were given, what was given to the grand jury. He just talks about releasing people that were wrongfully convicted or maybe convicted and given super long sentences, and that's all there is to it. What else is there to before these people get in prison? What about when they've spent 15 years in prison that they shouldn't have spent there? What about the dereliction of duty

from our justice system and not allowing these things to happen? Or actually, then actionably going after people when they shouldn't and knowingly presenting a wrong evidence. This happens countless times over and over and over again. How many times have we heard stories about people in this country who end up in jail on rape charges? And we found out that the prosecutor was hiding information that absolutely and utterly exonerated them. And they said, well, I'm going to go forward this because all I need is a conviction. How many times have we seen that? What part of the criminal justice system and criminal justice reform is changing that part?

Because right now we have Rihanna Taylor who was murdered back earlier this year. And then we have, and the majority of the year after that, instead of doing the right thing because there's four or five cops, They were in the wrong, along with them getting this no knock warrant in the first place under false pretenses. This goes so far from just releasing someone from prison that was wrongfully put there or had an extended sentence that probably shouldn't have been there. We need to sweep this whole thing. We did to pick up this whole thing and dust it off and find out what the real approach we need to do to change things are. I think many people don't know exactly how corrupt and upside down this system is. It's not just about putting people in prison once you've done something wrong or maybe there was.

some evidence is overlooked, there is an aggressive, actionable approach to putting people in jail because it's easy to do so. And after you do so and people fight back, you know the public's going to say, well, what do they do? What if we heard about Brianna Taylor? What have they heard about Kenneth Walker, her boyfriend, who had to go through the trauma? Oh, what were they doing? Oh, what happened with her ex-boyfriend? That's what we get from folks, because they know that the public has been brainwashed long enough to believe that certain people in this society deserve to be in prison, and if you didn't find the evidence on them, they must have done something else. They know that, and so they can go forward with these types of actions. Where's the reform on

that? Yeah, no, I mean, you make one great point after the next. I don't even know where to start, but I'll start with the last thing you just said. You know, there have been some states that have passed laws banning no-knock warrants. Okay, fine, that's a good start, I guess. But what we're experiencing right now, what we're seeing happen in real time in the state of Kentucky, is a very well orchestrated attempt to cover up the wrongdoing of the cops here. Because they keep changing their story. There's been some evidence of, you know, evidence tampering on the scene. I know I keep repeating this point over and over again because it boggles my mind that

it's not getting the attention that it should get. They lied. They lied about the post office telling them that there were suspicious packages being sent to Breonna Taylor's home. That is what they used. That is what they cited to a judge in order to obtain the no knock warrant. And then later, a post office inspector came out and said, that is not true. No one has said that to the police department. That is relevant because it shows you that they lied. They lied to a judge in order to obtain a warrant. Okay. And then, and then on top of all of this, you see how the state prosecutor is telling the public,

one thing, while telling these jurors something completely different, not giving them the opportunity to deliberate on possible homicide charges. And so you also mentioned Kenneth Walker, Brianna Taylor's boyfriend, and the trauma that he experienced. In this next clip, we're going to get part of his 911 call, which is heartbreaking every single time I hear it. But the jurors also talk about just the credibility of Kenneth Walker versus the cops in this case. Let's watch.

911 operator Harris where is their emergency? I don't know what's happening. Somebody kicked in the door inside my girlfriend. The thing that stood out to me when I was talking to him, he said, why would I call 911 if I thought it was the police?

That resonated with me because he didn't know who it was that was coming in. he had no idea. You could hear the distress. Everything about what he said was believable. It made sense all the way through him. You found him credible? Yes. Totally believable. Did you find the police credible? No. No, there are too many inconsistencies in their story. Now I understand that, you know, in a situation like that, you may not remember, but I didn't find their testimony credible. What was your understanding about what happened that night? It was a mess. It didn't seem to me that there was any organization or almost any leadership in the whole operation.

From the evidence that I heard, this thing started out downhill to begin with. You don't need seven cops to go up to somebody's door and say, you know, we're here to do an investigation at 1 o'clock in the morning. It kept going downhill from there. It was one mistake right after the other one, right after the other one. covered it up. They covered it up. I mean, you have a grand juror saying they covered it up. And, you know, since we're speaking about Kenneth Walker and the trauma that he had to experience on that insanely tragic night, I think it's important to mention that Louisville Metro Police Sergeant

Jonathan Mattingly is actually countersuing Kenneth Walker for emotional distress. So Mattingly was struck in the leg by Kenneth Walker's warning shot. Remember, he didn't know that they were cops. They were plain closed cops who barged into the home. They claimed that they announced themselves. Multiple witnesses said that that was not true. Now, Mattingly, Walker's bullet struck Mattingly in the leg causing, this is what the lawsuit says. Severe trauma, mental anguish, and emotional distress. Walker's conduct in shooting Mattingly is outrageous in tolerable and offends all accepted standards of decency and morality. That is what the lawsuit against Brianna Taylor's boyfriend says.

Okay, Brianna Taylor's dead. She bled out on the floor. And Kenneth Walker experienced that. Remember, they arrested Kenneth Walker. Absolutely. And then later let him go with no charges. It's just, it's so disgusting. While arresting him, wished they had shot him, saying all these horrible things to him,

as they're looking, as they have him walk out and screaming at him. And yeah, they got dogs barking ready to shoot him and then he wasn't shot. And it's like, you're lucky that you weren't. This is the emotional distress that somehow he laid upon them in your countersuit. It's, it furthers the way that you can see the way certain folks will see them. It's like, well, he's just Kenneth Walker, a black guy that was traumatized when his girlfriend was murdered in the house and he shot back because what we don't believe in the Second Amendment? Do we believe in you protecting your home from intruders? Do we or do we not believe in it? Every time we've had any kind of gun approach in this country, we see it as applies

to certain folks, but it doesn't apply to the ones that we don't think deserve those protections and those rights. So especially when you show that you have one and that you can provide that kind of protection for yourself, which didn't work out for them sadly on that day, you then go and say, let me go ahead and see if I can get some more out of them, just to really dig it in and let them know how much I despise his existence. That's all this means. This is a big middle finger to the rest of himself and his family. Hey, we know you probably hit play to escape your business banking, not think about it. But what if we told you there was a way to skip over the pressures of banking? By matching with the TD Small Business Account Manager, you can get

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That's what this lawsuit means. It's frustrating, man. And you know, and the only way that you can pull something off like this and think that you can convince enough people that it's okay is, again, you talk about how it's almost blood curdling to hear him screaming on the phone right after his, right after his, Bihanna was shot, the only way you can take that and think, unlike the juror that said, I could hear the pain in his voice. Like, how could he fake that? The only way you cannot hear that is to not think he's that, he's not the same kind of human being you are. He doesn't have

emotions. When gunshots happen at 1 a.m. or whatever time was in the middle of the night, when 30 shots run through your house, the only people who cannot be worried about that are like aliens, they're non-humans. That's how bigotry and racism allow you, to see people no matter what the circumstance is. So, hey, y'all, you know, black folks have these superhuman tendencies. They can take 35 shots to the chest because they're built by, they're built by like some other kind of creature. And then when you traumatize them, they're not actually hurt. That phone call was fake.

He called the cops on the cops because that makes sense. It doesn't have to make sense. As long as you hate that person, you can say anything you want about them and come to that conclusion. Yeah, I mean, every time I hear that 911 call, I also think about Philando Castile's girlfriend. And the girl in the back of the police with her daughter, young daughter, little girl, consoling her mom as she's like breaking down and crying. It's, I just, yeah, all right, we got to take a break. When we come back, we have some new documentation and new evidence of immigrants who have died in ICE custody.

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Absolutely. Well, let's talk about what's happening with ICE. I mean, it's been a while since we had heard about immigrants and detention and what's been happening with them. But BuzzFeed News actually did a pretty fantastic. report and demanded documents about migrant deaths. And the numbers are pretty devastating. So more than 40 immigrants have died in ICE custody since 2017. Dozens. Dozens of immigrants have died in U.S. custody. And BuzzFeed News was able to learn about this through a successful lawsuit that they filed against the Department of Homeland Security. Now, at some point during the Trump

administration, DHS decided they would no longer publicly release reports about the condition, the health conditions of these immigrants. And luckily, because of the reporters over at BuzzFeed news, we now know that dozens of people have died. Many of them have been denied the medical treatment and the care that they needed. I'll highlight some of the examples for you. One man from Jamaica, for instance, who had an aggressive but treatable form of cancer, was locked in solitary confinement for over a week without receiving medical care and died a month later. A Honduran transgender woman who sought asylum in the United States was severely dehydrated, showed signs of starvation, and wasn't given antiretroviral medication before she died. And that's

according to the local medical examiner of complications of AIDS. And there were people who were kept in conditions that were so horrific that at least three of these individuals killed themselves, even though they were supposed to be under close observation since it was known that they were a risk to themselves. But of course, the private prisons that they were held in didn't really care much about providing the care that these people needed. What they cared about was ensuring that they took taxpayer money in the form of government grants to essentially dehumanize and treat these people as if they're not people at all. In multiple instances, guards who are supposed to observe detainees placed in solitary confinement for extra

monitoring, falsified records to hide apparent dereliction of duty in at least two cases at Eloy Detention Center in Arizona and Adelanto Detention Facility in California. People died while they were not being watched, but should have been. I mean, like you read these stories, like the very specific examples that were provided by these documents. And it's just, this is what we're doing, right? This is what our government is doing. And every single time, look, I get that Obama didn't have a great record on immigration.

He had a pretty bad record when it came to deportation. That's why he was referred to as deporter-in-chief. But he didn't have 40 immigrants die while he was in charge. You know, like, the reason why I bring that up is because every time we talk about the type of threat Donald Trump is to people in this country, to immigrants, to asylum seekers, to all sorts of people in disadvantaged situations. I always hear the what-aboutism. Oh, what about Obama? What about Obama? What about Obama? Okay, Obama didn't purposely separate children from their parents at the border as they were seeking asylum. Okay, Obama didn't, you know, he actually stopped using private prisons on a federal level, and then Trump came in and he re-implemented the use of private prisons on a federal.

I'm telling you this because the false equivalencies drive me crazy. Obama deserved the criticism for what he did, but let's, Let's not pretend like Obama's cruelty was the same as what we're seeing under Trump. Trump dehumanizes these people. Trump does not care about a single individual in this country, much less people who come here seeking asylum. And dozens of people, including children, have died as a result of that. So yeah, you can take your what aboutism and shove it. Yeah, and by the way, every time there's one of those comparisons about the negative things

that President Obama did when he was in office. The first question that I'm always asking is, so where was your criticism for him doing that at the time? Were you upset about the way he was treating immigrants? Were you set about his deportations? So these conservatives that like to talk about, well, Obama did it? Obama did this first and Obama did that. Were you talking about that when Obama was doing that? Or were you okay with what Obama was doing?

Those few things that he was doing that coincided with what you agreed with and how you really don't give a damn about immigrants, especially folks that are fleeing their home country seeking some kind of existence that doesn't, it isn't threatening their live every time. So there's layers to the way that ICE was approaching this. And as you already pointed out, there was these dereliction of duties. There was the ways that they weren't going to actually, there wasn't, they weren't checking these, they weren't doing their welfare checks, medicines weren't provided. There's one particular guy that was put in solitary confinement, all those things that you mentioned. After doing those things, and then as you point out, BuzzFeed had to make sure that they forced their way into getting sued, their way into getting the

information. The information we discovered was then they went with, we just talked about, we just talked about the Breonna Taylor case, a cover up over every one of these instances. And then once you find out the real things that happened, which was the transgender woman who died and they didn't provide her with any kind of medical treatment, they said it was a heart attack. And they looked further into it and found that they did know about what was going on. They tried to cover it up. Then another guard who didn't do his duties as far as following and checking in and doing his welfare checks. He said, no, I mean, it's, he falsified his records for when he went in. But the video evidence didn't provide that.

If those things weren't discovered, if the lies weren't shown and illustrated just how blatant they were, they would have just continued to get away with it. So how many instances of this have happened where they did just get away with it, where they did lie about it and say, no, man, I did I did my job, it's okay. And then we just believed them and moved on. How many times did that happen for these few times when we found out that it didn't? I'm sure plenty. Yeah, it's not.

I'm sure plenty. And we just continue on down the same road. These places aren't shut down, the whole thing isn't changed. We're not worried about the 545 kids that were still separated from their parents. We're not worried about any of that. It's just cover it up because that's just the way we do things here. And they go through, there's so many stories about this. We just talked about a few weeks ago where the uteruses are getting scoped and removed

and medical treatments done by this doctor, doctor that decided to do this because that's just the way they feel it should happen. Yeah, they're essentially sterilizing women without their consent, and they won't ever be able to have children again as a result of that, or ever, if they don't already have children. It's the most hideous, disgusting, cruel, I mean, shameful, in another instance, surveillance footage showed a detainee falling out of his wheelchair and struggling to move, but nurses told a guard who expressed concern that the detainee was faking or exaggerating his symptoms. Later that day, the detainee died.

Yeah, because you know why? Because if someone's in a state of emergency and you don't care about their life, you can say they're faking. Oh, they must be faking. Why would they be faking to get where? If they're faking and you go check on them, does that give them a free pass to leave? Is that how it works? Or does it mean you actually don't care what will happen to them? Is it you think that's too much trouble for me?

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having a little bit of a backbone over recusing himself, Jeff Sessions like said the quiet parts out loud when he said, no, we're doing this as a deterrent. This is intentional. This is intentional. Taking the children away from the border, that was a policy. It was their zero tolerance policy intentionally implemented to deter future asylum seekers. Treating them with this type of cruelty once they're detained is intentional. And we're paying for it. I want everyone to understand that. It isn't just that ICE is, and the Department of Homeland Security is carrying out these disgusting, cruel, awful policies. Our money, our taxpayer money pays for that. You think private prisons are funded through investors only? No, they're mostly funded, 95% funded through us. And so while

our federal government gives us a giant middle finger during this pandemic when people need financial relief, at the same time, our money is still getting funneled into these disgusting programs that murder people, that put people in solitary confinement or leave them to die after they've fallen from a wheelchair. That's what's happening. This is America. This is America's exceptionalism. And we'll keep, we'll keep trying to pursue this, this, this hologram. I'm not sure what is we're trying to, who we are, this shining ladder on the hill, but we continue do things like this.

The only reason you try and cover it up is to continue that facade of what we say we are. So if you want to, if you want to continue, just, I'm so frustrating. I'm, I totally forgot what I was going to say, Anna. I totally forgot. It's all right. It happens to me too. When you get so frustrated with the story. But we do need to take a break.

So maybe you'll remember from the break and come back and share. But when we come back, we have more news including, well, Walmart has decided to take guns off its shelves, but not for the reasons that you would think they should take guns off the shelves. At TYT, we frequently talk about all the ways that big tech companies are taking control of our online lives. online lives, constantly monitoring us and storing and selling our data. But that doesn't mean we have to let them. It's possible to stay anonymous online and hide your data from the prying eyes of big tech. And one of the best ways is with ExpressVPN.

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who have called for civil war in this country, or the fact that, you know, you have 17-year-olds like Kyle Rittenhouse showing up to protests in states he doesn't live in, to essentially gun down to people in cold blood. There have been numerous examples of Bukulu boys, for instance, walking up to police officers in their police cruisers to ambush and shoot them to death. And so, yeah, yeah, there's a lot of fear about unrest involving the election. But as you read the story and you learn more details, Walmart seems to be more concerned about black protesters. That's what they're worried about. Let me give you details. Statement from Walmart, they say, we have seen some isolated civil unrest.

And as we have done on several occasions over the last few years, we have moved our firearms and ammunition off the shelves or off the sales floor as a precaution for the safety of our associates and customers. Now, they will still be selling guns. They're just not going to have the guns on the shelves because they're worried about protesters breaking into a Walmart or breaking into Walmarts and stealing the guns on the shelves. That's what they're concerned about. That's what they're worried about. Guns and ammunition will still be available for purchase at the store, as Walmart said, but won't be available on the sales floor. Well, they can have a weird hateful reason for this, or I guess, a bias-based reason for this.

But in reality, I mean, as long as it gets something done to a degree, I mean, I don't know if being on the sales floor really lowers your gun sales. Is it out of sight, out of mind? I'm trying to find some wrinkle in this, because by the way, the whole thing about making sure that protesters don't break in and take guns off the sales floor. That part, it's I mean, I'm unsurprised by that, 100%. So, I mean, I'm trying to find some wrinkle in this that at least maybe other folks that are looking to come out and cause riots, maybe shoot some innocent protesters, maybe just go right in the streets if their guy doesn't win, then maybe it'll deter them from really realizing that Walmart still has guns there. That's where the best

thing I can get out of this because this is part for the course for me. This is the way it's always been with gun rights in America. And we talked about Brianna Taylor earlier today and how her boyfriend shot back at cops and he's being countersued by one of the cops who was involved in killing his girlfriend. And we can just we can just take that story and move along and say, well, you know, it's it's fine, it's normal. He was like he was a black guy, right? Shooting that gun, right? He was still black, right? Okay, yeah, okay, yeah. It's cool that we decide that he's not allowed to have one. So in this case, I mean, this goes along with the way America does things.

I just hope it deters other folks from buying them. Yeah, well, part of the problem is, as we know, the right wing is already pretty armed. And I think that the intention behind the decision to do this does matter. You know, there was a recent episode of The Daily and it had to do with concerns of civil unrest around the election. And so I was like, oh, you know, I haven't been listening to that podcast as regularly as before. I thought that seemed like an interesting topic. So I start listening to it expecting, you know, Democratic voters, independent voters, whatever, fearful about election day, especially with all the voter intimidation we've been seeing. You know, these armed

people showing up, Trump supporters showing up to in-person voting locations. or ballot drop-off locations to specifically intimidate voters. So I thought that's what it was going to be about. No, no, no. It was about right-wingers who feel like they don't have enough guns, and they think that people who are fighting for civil rights are the threat. And by the way, in this BuzzFeed article highlighting the story about what Walmart is doing, this is stated.

The decision comes as Walmart in Philadelphia was targeted by looters after the killing of Walter Wallace Jr. One target, one target for looters was the Port Richmond Walmart. Luters were seen carrying clothes and appliances and ripped boxes of ammunition were also seen abandoned on the ground just outside the store. So they're just worried about these guns, you know, ending up in the hands of people that they don't like. Like if the only threat was, and by the way, I don't want looters to steal guns either. Like I'm not trying to be an I'm not in favor of that. I think that's dangerous and awful. But the fact that the other threat is completely ignored is devastating, even as we've seen the FBI report multiple times

that the biggest threat in this country is right wing gang members, right? FBI says that, but no, well, Walmart's not worried about them. Like, right wingers want to come in and buy guns and threaten people with them as they're trying to exercise their right to vote. That's okay. Okay. We're really worried about protests. Yeah. Because you know, this is a little bit what's scary. I don't live far from an indoor gun range.

And honestly, it's hidden in plain sight. If I don't pay attention to everything I drive by because I'm just that type of person, I know everything that's around me. You wouldn't know that it's there. But if previous to this year, this pandemic happening, if I didn't know it, I would know it now because the line is literally out the door and down the street every day, every day, there's people lining up outside of this gun range and they're practicing. And they're practicing and they're practicing. Now, I'm sure they come from all kinds of political leanings. But what's definitely happening is this assumption that good old boys, these good old conservatives and Republicans are the ones with the gun rights and have all the guns and we're going to come shoot and kill you. When that perception has always been the norm here, it's never been the reality, number one. Lips love guns. Democrats love guns.

Folks that live in gun-toting states love their guns. So when you keep thinking you're going to start this whole unrest and I'm going to come kill you and nobody's going to do anything in response, honestly, you know, I'm not even sure that they don't see that part. It's kind of what they want. There's been this whole war that they've been trying to stoke for years now. And it's a new avenue for it. And no matter what happens on election night, there's people that are prepared, no matter

or what, just because it's for fun. I don't know, or just to completely up in the country because they dislike it here. I'm not sure what really the motivation is outside of just your pride and wanting to shoot someone because you've had your guns getting dusty on the shelf and you haven't shot anyone long enough. I'm not sure what the motivation is, but it's not one-sided. And if you ever thought it was one-sided, let me tell you this way. It's not one-sided anymore, if that's what you think was the problem before. Well, I want to talk about Don Jr.'s insanely callous statements regarding coronavirus today. So let's talk about that.

Don Jr. recently went on Fox News and, you know, had some thoughts about the 125,000 Americans who have died from coronavirus. He's pretty callous, to say the least. And we should probably listen to what he has to say and debunk it because this type of disinformation is not only harmful, but insanely insulting to the family members who have lost loved ones due to Donny Boy's father completely bungling the response to COVID. Let's watch. These people, these people are truly morons, you know what I mean? I like how they go after Scott Atlas because he's not an epidemiologist, but Sanjay Gupta now magically is. I mean, give me a break, Laura. The reality is this. If you look, I put it up on my Instagram a couple days ago because I went through the CDC data because I kept hearing about new infections.

But I was like, well, why aren't they talking about this? Oh, because the number is almost nothing. Because we've gotten control of this thing. We understand how it works. The number is almost nothing. They are. No, let me state something that is important. Because so many people have contracted the virus and because our health care providers and professionals, have had so much experience in treating people with coronavirus. I mean, last week alone, half a million Americans contracted the virus. They have gotten better at treating people.

And so the death rate has gone down. However, the number is insanely high. A hundred twenty-five thousand Americans already dead. And more are to come as a result of Trump's administration refusing to listen to CDC guidelines. politicizing the use of masks. I mean, the list goes on, 225,000, yeah, people. Was I misspeaking? Yeah, 125. I got you, though. You said 125, but it's fine. Oh, my bad, my bad, 225,000 people. I'm sorry, I'm totally misspoke. I hate when I do that. But yeah, it's one failure after the next, and to refer to that number as like, it's nothing.

It's just nothing. Again, hey, I get flip the script. And I hate having to do this so many times because it's so simple to flip this script. So if you have anyone that you actually disagree with politically, if you're supporters of old Donnie there, flip the script with someone you don't like saying, yeah, so you've lost a family member, you lost a loved one, you lost a friend. And that person means nothing. Their death is nothing. That's what he just said.

He straight up said it. Why are people talking about deaths anymore, Donnie says? First of all, they are. So that's a lie. And then number two, just because you don't care about the deaths doesn't mean anything. Oh, why are they talking about this? Because we're getting it's so under control. By the way, so since Trump has survived and lived through COVID, there's people that have died since. Where's the miracle cure? Where is the antidote that he keeps talking about?

Well, how come they're all not immune to it like he is? Where's the treatment for them? Since he can survive it, why isn't it a 100% success rate? And if it's not, I get it. Each person has a different kind of situation. Maybe explain to us why people have still died since we have this magical cure. And why isn't it widely available? Why aren't you looking to make sure it's widely available? You know why? Because you don't give a damn about anyone else's life. You don't care that more people have died since then. If one more person dies after you found the cure as Trump keeps talking about, how come it's not widely spreads the rest of America? I thought he loves America. I thought he said, let's get around each other. We need to stop worrying by other countries. It's all us. It's America first. Which Americans are first here, Donnie? Do they not matter? I thought it was America first. I kept hearing your dad keep saying that. America's first. There's Americans that aren't first. They're dead. 228 plus thousand of them are dead. It means something. Yeah. And honestly, the number is shocking every time. I think my brain is still in recovery mode from from like processing that number, which is probably why I said 125,000 instead of 225,000. That is an insane amount of people dying. from a virus that they could have been protected from. Now, were people going to die?

Of course, this virus, especially in the early days of the pandemic, was something that doctors and scientists didn't know enough about yet. And we're learning more and more. We're learning more about how long immunity lasts after you have antibodies in your blood. We're learning how effective masks are. We couldn't figure out early if it was airborne, even though Trump knew early on that it was airborne, or if it was something that would infect people through surfaces. But like, my point is to speak about this, this tragic situation in such a callous way, like, and they're laughing

about it. And I want to provide some, some, you know, updated numbers for you guys, because the situation is really bad right now in terms of how many people are getting sick. In 13 states deemed competitive by Cook political report, the weekly average of new cases reported daily has jumped 45% over the past two weeks from fewer than 21,000 on October 14th to more than 30,000 on October 28th. Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania have hit, all hit. New weekly average highs in recent days. And in Florida and Georgia, case counts are growing again after having fallen from summer highs. And in Wisconsin, over the last two weeks, the coronavirus case count in Wisconsin where Trump won a single percentage point in 2016 has jumped 36% to an average

of 4,200 new infections per day. That is absolutely devastating. And the truth is, the reason why it's a problem, even if doctors have gotten better at treating people and keeping them alive after contracting the virus, the reason why the new numbers are disastrous in terms of how many people are contracting it is because the hospitals are gonna be overwhelmed. You are watching this right now are not gonna get the same healthcare, the same treatment that Donald Trump got around the clock. That's why they're in a different world. They're completely disconnected from the reality that Americans are facing right now.

Please keep yourself safe. Please wear a mask. Just whatever you hear from the Trump administration, ignore it, listen to Anthony Fauci. We care about you guys. Even if you're a Trump supporter, hate watching this, please stay safe. Absolutely. We'll talk about more news in the post. game t yt.com slash join thanks for listening to the full episode of the young turks support our work listen ad free access members only bonus content and more by subscribing to apple podcasts at apple dot co slash t yt i'm your host jank yugar and i'll see you soon