The Young Turks - Trump Attacks Tulsi - June 20, 2025
Episode Date: June 21, 2025Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month Shopify trial and start selling today at shopify.com/tyt Trump buys himself breathing room while hinting at new strategic options amid rising tensions with ...Iran. Tulsi Gabbard bends the knee to Donald Trump after he throws her under the bus. An Iranian missile strike hits an Israeli hospital, escalating regional fears. Meanwhile, a federal judge demands Mahmoud Khalil’s release. Hosts: John Iadarola, Cenk Uygur, Trae Crowder SUBSCRIBE on YOUTUBE ☞ https://www.youtube.com/@TheYoungTurks FOLLOW US ON: FACEBOOK ☞ https://www.facebook.com/theyoungturks TWITTER ☞ https://twitter.com/TheYoungTurks INSTAGRAM ☞ https://www.instagram.com/theyoungturks TIKTOK ☞ https://www.tiktok.com/@theyoungturks 👕MERCH ☞ https:/www.shoptyt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right. Welcome to the young Turks power panel,
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Well, listen, man, that's why I'm here all week.
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And John, of course, a host a damage report like, oh, Trump's president.
I wonder what the damage report is.
Let's check that out at 1 p.m. Eastern every day.
All right.
So we've got a lot of news for you guys.
We're still asking on the website, one of our more popular questions on t.com.
Should we form a coalition with the right against the war with a war?
Iran, well, that's going to be in the rundown a lot today because there's internal fighting,
but then are they going to cave into Trump anyway?
We're going to find out all of that.
So, John, let's get started.
Yeah, there was a fascinating development in the last day.
But anyway, we are going to start on that and probably talk about that for the majority of the show.
It's war, it's justified, but let's start off with this.
Regarding the ongoing situation in Iran, I know there has been a lot of speculation amongst all of you in the media regarding the president's decision making.
and whether or not the United States will be directly involved.
In light of that news, I have a message directly from the president, and I quote,
based on the fact that there's a substantial chance of negotiations that may or may not take
place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision whether or not to go within
the next two weeks.
It was strange, admittedly, to get updates about the possibility of war from the press
secretary rather than from truth social, but we'll go with it.
So it could be two weeks, but is that actually him looking for diplomacy?
Is that him buying a little bit of time to set up our attack?
Cenk, what do you make of that?
Yeah, I'm so curious what you guys think about it, because I think he's trying to, he's
basically saying, all right, MAGA and neocons, you guys fight, and then whoever wins and
is more popular, I'll go on your side.
That's my read of Trump and why he's doing this two weeks, plus he wants to get Iran
back to the negotiating table so that he could declare that, oh, you see that, I was a tough
guy, and then I got peace.
Oh, that'd be perfect for Trump's brand, right, both tough and anti-war.
So he's trying to thread that needle, whether that'll work is an entirely different question,
which side is he finally going to end up on, different question, how is the magnet going to react,
question and those are all the questions we've got to tackle. Yeah. Yeah, at the end of the day,
look, if we do not directly enter into the war, then on that he gets, I guess, a little bit of
anti-war, although that's just maintaining a status quo of Biden didn't go in. But he also said
that, you know, with me as president, we have stability. People don't do attacks like Russia did
with Ukraine and with Hamas and everything, except that's not the case. Israel felt totally free
to attack whoever they want. This isn't even the first place in the last, in the, since he became
president. So he does have to answer for that. Yeah, I just got a gentleman real quick on that.
Guys, it's even worse than that, right? Because he always says like, oh, that war would have
never started if I was president, would have never started, right? But in this case, not only did it
start under Trump, but Netanyahu defied Trump in starting the war. Yeah. I said, I don't
what you think. You know, I don't work for you. You work for me. And I'm going to start this
war. And then you're going to have to think through for two weeks if you're my bitch or not.
And so that's the decision Trump's trying to make.
So don't tell me that wars wouldn't have started under you when a giant one just started
and you're thinking of joining it.
Yeah, exactly.
But let's try to work through some of the insider information to figure out how likely
it is that we will actually get ourselves involved in this war because there's evidence
that points in both directions and I'm not 100% certain I know exactly what he's thinking.
I'm not certain that he knows exactly what he's thinking.
But anyway, some are saying in the administration that the two week timeline is that he is
very worried, seriously worried about the lasting impacts of regime change, which would be nice.
It's good to see a president actually thinking through what happens after a regime is toppled.
He apparently doesn't want to turn Iran into Libya, said one insider familiar with the deliberations
that are going on.
He apparently in recent days has specifically mentioned Libya's decade-long plunge in anarchy
in 2011 after the US joined a NATO bombing campaign to Aus Gaddafi, that's according to three
different sources. But, and this is where it's much more typical Trump administration stuff,
they do believe that if we engage in war and the regime is toppled and stuff like that happens,
it isn't actually his fault anyway. The insider said Libya was a much more extended kind of
bombing commitment and it ended up being regime change. If the regime falls in Iran,
then it's not on Trump because that's not the goal of his very limited strength.
I would love to have an actual man in charge if we're going to have something that looks
like a man, somebody who takes responsibility for what they do.
Your goal has no effect, like it doesn't matter.
If you strike them, if you, for instance, as they're now talking about, potentially do assassinate
the leader and it does fall into a civil war, massive infighting, failed state or whatever,
like it is very small comfort to say, but that wasn't my goal, it was limited striking.
It was just a decapitation attack.
And so, no, they're not gonna take responsibility if that ends up happening.
But I do like hearing that at least it's something they're thinking about.
And so some people are saying that it isn't actually about buying time for diplomacy.
And it could be, Trump is still saying you want some kind of deal.
Although right before we went live, he said that Europe, I guess, isn't allowed to talk to Iran.
And Iran doesn't want to talk to them anyway.
But others are saying that it's just to buy time to set up for the actually.
attack. Apparently, it would provide time for a second American aircraft carrier to get
into place so that if we do the attack and we need to defend against a counterattack,
we would have more material in the area to do that. It would also provide Israel more time to
destroy the air defenses around the site that we would be attacking with our bunker busters.
And so there's there really is evidence to support both conclusions that this is serious or
that it's not. I mean, the third sort of related topic to the last one is, it's two weeks
to get Iran to put down their defenses a little bit. And then three, maybe, maybe you wake
up tomorrow in the middle of night we launched the attack. Yeah. I mean, he would, he's definitely
not above lying. No, for sure. And look, guys, there's a good argument to be made that it's
to prepare. And I was going to say the same thing as John, it could be just to do a surprise
attack. Oh, we're going to come in two weeks, just like Israel did a surprise attack on them in the
middle of our so called peace negotiations, right? So it's not like they didn't just do this like
a minute ago. Having said that, I don't think that's what it is. Why? Because Israeli officials
are mad at the delay. They're like, we already gave you an order. And now you're going to take
two weeks to do our order? How dare you? So when I see quotes like that, and obviously I'm
paraphrasing, okay, in the press with Israeli officials upset at the American government for delaying,
then I think, okay, no, he is actually delaying.
And unless it's like an enormously elaborate surprise attack and they've coordinated
the Israeli officials pretending to be upset, but I tend to doubt that.
Trey, what do you think?
Well, I think we can all agree, you know, generally as Americans, we can rest easy
in the comfort of knowing that whatever decision Donald Trump ultimately makes,
it's sure to be the most level-headed and diplomatic option available to him.
No, I'm obviously terrified.
I feel the exact opposite.
I, you know, he probably is trying to have it both ways.
Maybe there's something, too, like you said, Jake, about having them fight it out,
kind of give it a minute, see which side comes out on top.
But I'm in spite of what I said a minute ago, very confident that whatever he ends up doing,
it's not going to be great.
And as far, at least, like John mentioned, at least they even somewhat acknowledge that regime change is sometimes bad.
I feel like we've had a pretty poor batting average with those as a country,
but it doesn't stop us from stepping up back up to the plate, usually.
So I'm not feeling overly confident that we'll avoid, you know, World War III potentially or whatever.
But I certainly hope so.
I hope that level heads prevail.
But I don't know, we'll see.
You could be just kicking the can down the road and waiting for it to shake out somehow in some other fashion.
I don't think it's whatever the shrewdest thing is he could be doing, I don't think it's that.
So yeah, in terms of the kicking the can down the road, it's also possible.
I mean, there was initial reports that he he didn't want Israel to do this.
We that's now very well established, no matter how much Carolyn leave it would pretend
that this was always the plan. And then he saw that Israel was pretty impressive in the first
few days. And now he wants in on it. He's feeling like FOMO or whatever. And so if the two weeks
go by and it's still going well, then maybe he thinks, well, this is a pretty safe thing. I can get us involved
or whatever, and he's not going to want to look weak by virtue of the fact that Israel has just
been doing this. Or alternatively, if it starts to fail, and the perception is that Israel
needed Trump's help, but he didn't provide it, then he could look weak in that respect,
which is why I just believe that it seems inevitable that we're going to do something. Now,
are we going to be marching 50,000 soldiers across the border? I don't know, but it's a massive
country with a big military and these sorts of things can balloon out of control. I think,
And we already know that he approved some sort of strike plans, including potentially the use
of these bunker busters. I feel like that's pretty much a lock at this point. Again, I really
hope that I am wrong, but I think it's entirely possible that he does that. And if he does that,
then it's almost certain that there will be reprisal attacks against the United States or its forces
or its allies. And that's very consequential. He could have been in signing these orders,
signing effectively the death warrant for a lot of our soldiers in the region. And he has to know that.
And for him to do this when it didn't even seem like this is really like he wanted to be involved.
Like I'm always, I'm always ready to bad mouth and give him the least charitable interpretation of his motives.
That's true.
I have trumped arrangement citrum.
But it doesn't seem like two weeks ago he was hot for war with Iran.
I'll give him that credit.
And so for him to be manipulated or led into it is even more pathetic than him just being the hawk that he could have been or some other Republican president would have been.
And so it really is feeling like we're going to be dragged in.
My best bet is we're going to engage in, we're going to try to destroy Fordo, and depending on Iranian reprisals, maybe get drawn in and maybe it becomes a bigger thing.
Maybe it becomes a thing that involves years of conflict.
I don't know.
But there is the Steve Bannon factor.
I know we're going to be talking about that later in the show.
What do you think?
Yeah, so I'm going to touch on that a little bit.
There's two things I want to go over.
So where do the different parts of the Republican Party stand?
So, and who's the most culpable? So the worst of the whole lot are the Republican politicians
in Congress. Outside of Thomas Massey, they're all war mongers. Marjorie Taylor Green is on the bubble.
She hasn't joined the war powers resolution, which would prevent the president from declaring
war. So right now she's full of crap. She hasn't taken action to actually oppose the war.
She tweeted. Oh, yeah, she tweets, right? And then look, by the way, that's better than not opposing it.
And so, and she's doing that because her own voters are pushing her to do that, which I'll come back to.
Okay, so, but the Republicans are 99% corrupt.
Other than Tom Massey, they all love the idea of this war and can't wait to serve APAC loyally.
So that's a stone cold fact.
If you're a Republican voter out there and you want to defend your precious little politicians,
go look at their voting record, go see if they join Massey in the, in trying to assert constitutional authority for Congress,
prevent war. They didn't. Okay, so that's clear. Trump is kind of, he's in the middle. Why?
Because he's a good guy? No, he's in the middle because his base, in my opinion, is largely against
the war, but his donors are all for the war. And so he's like, oh, and then he's got to surround
himself with a bunch of neocons that Miriamato said ask him to hire. And they're all like,
oh, sir, this is very dangerous. You'll look really weak and pathetic unless you just absolutely
destroy Iran. I mean, are you going to look so silly and not drum a bunker buster? I mean,
you're looking weaker by the minute now. And you know, Israel did this brilliant strike.
Okay, so just pause there for a real quick story. So part of the reason that we first put out
a statement saying, hey, we didn't have anything new with this. Marco Rubio did that on the first
night. And then by the morning, Trump had changed to, oh, yeah, we were involved. We gave them
intelligence. We deserve credit. Wait, why credit? This Fox News ran a segment that morning
saying that Israel strikes were brilliant and strong. So Trump then thought, I want to be brilliant
and strong. I was in on it. I was in on it. It's in my credit for that it. He's such a simple-minded
guy, right? But the fact that there's a countervailing force is what's so interesting.
Because that never existed.
Guys, they were the longest wrong show in internet history.
I covered the Iraq war before it got started.
There was no countervailing force, none, zero on the right.
They were all like, yes, let's attack.
Okay, 100% of them, including Tucker Carlson at the time, including Donald Trump at the time, all of them.
Okay, some of them switched a little later, some of them switched way, way, way later, decades later, right?
And pretending they were against it.
No, they were all for it, okay?
So now, finally we get to the bag of voters.
So no, more than half of them are actually into war.
I know that a lot of people on the level, no way, no way, you're crazy.
They're all cult, we're gonna talk more about it later in the show.
But guys, why would the voters lie?
Like it's not like Maga's shy about their opinions.
It's not like they're worried about offending you.
Like, and all the other issues are like, yeah, goddamn immigrants,
Round them all up, sending the Marines, right?
They're not shy, they have no, they're not a politician, they're not taking donor money,
they have no reason to lie to you.
No, they really don't want the war.
Like, and if you say, okay, they're right, they all work for Laura Lumer.
Do they, because Laura Lumer's fighting Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon?
So if they all follow her orders, does that mean they maga hates Tucker Carlson and Steve Bannon?
No, they're actually split, they're actually split.
So now that doesn't mean they're not gonna fall back in line.
We'll talk about that later in the show.
Okay, so now what do I think is gonna happen?
This is the hardest one of all, because it's, I mean, Donald Trump nailed it.
This is a hilarious beginning to a sentence, wait for the second half.
When he said, you know, nobody knows what I'm gonna do.
I'll probably decide in the last second, I'd like to do that.
I'm like, yeah, that sounds like him, yep.
So even Donald Trump doesn't know what he's gonna do.
So we're all guessing based on what we think we know about Trump, his base, his donors, and all this stuff.
So what's my guess?
75, 25 that he bombs them, okay?
So why?
Because Iran is not going to come back to the table and do an unconditional surrender.
That's what Trump wants.
Now before they almost had a deal where Iran said, oh, we'll stop enriching uranium at
the military, where we get anywhere near the military level, and we'll enrich uranium
under controlled circumstances monitor for just energy purposes, which is what they were
doing in the past, which is basically the Obama deal, right?
And Israel said, no, we veto that deal.
You have to take away their entire uranium program.
But that for them, for whatever reason, is a red line.
And that they view that to be a national humiliation if they have to do that.
So it is very, very unlikely they'll do that.
So since Iran is not going to come back and go, okay, we surrender, we surrender, dear Donald Trump,
he's probably going to take offense to that.
He's going to be easier to manipulate.
So 75, 25, at least he attacks.
And Maga's not helping at this point because they're retreating a lot of them, like Bannon and Trump.
I mean, Bannon and Tucker, as I'll tell you in a minute, are not in a minute, but a little bit later in the show, are beginning to retreat.
Okay, so last thing is then what do I think is going to happen after the bombing, if that happens?
Well, Israel is going to say not good enough.
You didn't destroy their whole facility.
You should have dropped a nuke.
You should have done ground troops.
You should have done regime change.
And Israel might assassinate Ayatollah Khomeinias they are threatening to do now, okay?
In which case we'll be in the middle of a giant mess.
And then Trump will get more and more and more on popular.
Maga will then the half of Maga that hated the war will go, what the I thought we were just
dropping a bomb and now we're in the middle of this giant mess just like we didn't want to be, right?
And this is the super bold prediction.
And I understand there's a series of steps to even get to a place where this might happen.
But if all that happens, I think that Donald Trump will leave in the middle of the war.
And Israel will be like, wait, what?
You can't leave in the middle of the war.
We're in this war together.
And Trump will be like, I don't know, it's costing too much.
Magga doesn't like it.
It hurt my popularity.
Where's my new bribe?
If you don't have a new bribe, I'm gone.
Okay, that's my guess.
Well, we'll see.
I hope none of that happens.
I hope we don't bomb them.
I also hope we don't bomb them, but I'm also not overly optimistic for like 75, 25.
That's probably pretty, pretty good odds because we're the last time we chose not to bomb a place.
We got to spend all this money on all these sweet toys.
There's a lot of people in D.C. that just really like to use them, you know.
We have war is a big, big cottage industry over here in the U.S.
So, I mean, I'm always worried that we're going to leap into another one.
I agree with you, too.
Like, I'm also glad that there just are even factions, like you said, a countervailing force on the right right now.
And it's been weird.
It does make for, like, strange bedfellows because so far the ones who are, like, against it,
a lot of times it's the more typically loonier type of, you know, Republican, the more hardcore, like MAGA-E type.
So it's been put me in position.
never thought of being before, like, watching Tucker Carlson dress down Ted Cruz, and I'm sitting there thinking, like, hell, man, Tucker's spit and get him Tucker.
Like, I never thought I'd think that. That's just a testament to just how much Ted Cruz sucks. But, like, it is, it is, you know, it's weird sort of agreeing with him on anything, but this is, we're talking about war here. And it's like, whether, whatever their motivations are, because a lot of people said about Tucker and some of those types, it's like, ah, it's just because he's a Russian stooge and that's what Russia wants or whatever. But it's like, you know, it's still kind of.
they can fall bass acwards into being right about any one given thing.
You know, they say about broken clocks and blind squirrels and all that.
I just don't want there to be war, but I'm worried that there will because like you guys said,
it just feels like the thing that we would do in any administration, but this one in particular.
Also, I'll say this is, seems like maybe one of the worst times in any of our living memory for a new war to start,
given the leadership at the top of our, of our military right now.
They don't exactly inspire confidence.
So that's also alarming.
But yeah, we'll see what happens, but I'm not feeling great about it.
I mean, at the very least, thanks to that leadership will finally have a bit more transparency during the war.
I mean, if you're curious how it's developing, just get in the signal group.
You're all the details as they develop.
But we have a development that I think we should briefly talk about.
One of the things that's made me most worried that Donald Trump is going to engage in bombing Iran is his recent assertions.
that they are developing a nuclear weapon and could have them in weeks or months,
even though that is not what our intelligence community thinks.
He reiterated that earlier today, saying they could have it in weeks, and when he was told
that our intelligence agencies, which just once again reiterated that that is not the case,
when he said, when he was asked about that, he said then our intelligence community is wrong.
And so this is feeling super run up to the war in Iraq, just again, baseless belief that
So we have to go in there because of weapons of mass destruction.
And one of the interesting sort of factional fights that developed from this was that to
assert that he had to contradict Tulsi Gabbard specifically who had testified in March
that they were not developing a nuclear weapon.
And he seems dead set on the idea that she was wrong.
And that was fascinating.
Tulsi Gabbard maybe being pushed out of the administration because she stood for the truth
for once.
And we have a little bit of an update on that.
But first, here is Donald Trump being asked about this disagreement.
I think within a matter of weeks or certainly within a matter of months,
they're going to be able to have a nuclear weapon. We can't let that happen.
What intelligence do you have that Iran is building a nuclear weapon? Your
intelligence community has said they have no evidence that they are at this point.
Well, then my intelligence community is wrong. Who in the intelligence community said that?
You're director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard.
She's wrong. She's wrong. And remember, Tulsi Gabbard didn't just
just say that they don't have weapons. Like a week ago, she put out a really flashy Russian
style video about World War III. She seems to actually not want us to engage in actions
that could lead to nuclear war. And so finally, you have Donald Trump, who seems to be willing
to gobble up propaganda and spread it baselessly to get us into a war, and Tulsi Gabbard's
standing for the truth, which after the last few years is refreshing. And if that makes you uncomfortable,
it's not actually going in that way because Tulsi Gabbard just tweeted,
the dishonest media is intentionally taking my testimony out of context in spreading fake
news as a way to manufacture division. America has intelligence that Iran is at the point
that it can produce a nuclear weapon within weeks to months if they decide to finalize the
assembly. President Trump has been clear that can't happen and I agree. They took it out
of context. She said in March the US continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear
weapon and supreme leader Khomeini has not authorized the nuclear weapons program he's
suspended in 2003. Yeah, she didn't want to lose her job, that's it. This is utterly pathetic.
I'm so glad you read that second comment, John, because I was about to give her credit. And because
and I did when it first happened, I was like, huh, I thought Tulsi was going to be in favor
of war against the Muslim country, to be honest. And so I didn't believe her that she was anti-war.
And so when she came out and said, oh, no, Ron's not developing a nuclear weapon. I was
Like, all right, we're creditors do. That's true. And that's kind of an anti-war position.
I now take it all back. Okay, so she's now bending a knee and saying, she's totally lying.
Totally lying. 100% lying. And by the way, it's important to note on behalf of Israel.
Not on behalf of us, we got nothing to do with that war. Nothing to do with that war.
So now let me go to Ted Cruz real quick. So he was with tough crossing. You guys know, yeah, Carson humiliated him as Trey was
referring to there. And when Tucker asked them, hey, what's, what's so great about Israel?
I mean, that's a very rough paraphrase, right? Ted Cruz's like, oh, there are greatest
ally. And okay, yeah, but other than them giving you, APAC giving you millions of dollars,
why are they our greatest ally? He said, because they share intelligence with us.
Yeah, false intelligence in order to push us into a war, which was where we got the fake intelligence
about the WMD in Iraq.
And now we have fake intelligence about Iran to push us into a war with Iran.
With allies like that, you don't need enemies.
They just create enemies for you.
They create giant wars for you.
And then what's the second reason he gave?
He said, the people that hate them also hate us.
Hmm, I wonder why.
Did it ever occur to you that the people who hate them hate us?
Because we back all of their wars against those people and that we fund Israel,
and their war crimes and their aggressive attacks against those countries.
Gee, did that ever occur to your Ted?
So they're all enormously corrupt.
If you're trying to figure out who's better Ted Cruz or Tucker Carlson on this,
that is not a close question.
You could say blind squirrel, you can say anything you want about Tucker Carlson.
There's a lot of terrible things to say about Doug Carlson.
But on this, not Ted Cruz is 100% corrupt and totally and utterly works for Israel.
And just the fact that Tucker Carlson doesn't work for Israel is shocking in Washington that anyone in like that is has any degree of power and is on the right wing doesn't work for Israel.
So super last thing is, you really want to unite and you guys do like Phil Lowry just became a member.
Hit the join button below on YouTube.
We appreciate you, Phil.
And then Rodin, this is at least an opportunity to form groups and plant protests and whatever else we can do to show our disgust with a thought of entering a foreign war unprovoked.
Look, we started United Againstwar.com, Dave Smith, who's a prominent libertarian, came on the show a couple of days ago and says, oh, I'll unite against war. Yes, the libertarians are against it. Progressives are against it. What would be amazing is if MAGA actually lived up to what they were going to say. He's Trump is asking you if you're MAGA to put pressure on him so he could decide who's stronger MAGA or the neocons. So MAGA, are you just going to let the neocons win? You're just going to surrender?
of them or are you going to go out there? I mean, imagine seeing a right wing protest of a war.
I'm not sure I've ever seen that in my entire life. Now, I'm going to ask you to imagine
something that you're going to have incredible difficulty imagining. Imagine a right wing and left
wing protest together of a war. Okay, I think that's what we should do on 4th of July.
Okay, but I don't know that I can get anyone else to join that protest. It might be just me out there,
Right, because the left will say, no, I hate the right so much.
I'll never have a beer with them, even if we're going to ally against the war.
The right will say they hate the left and we'll all hate each other.
And then Israel will win and we'll attack Iran and get into another giant war.
But I'm trying, United Stateswar.com.
Trey, last word.
Yeah, well, on that note, like John said earlier,
starting to feel very run up to the war in Iraq 20 years ago or whatever,
about the just pretty much baldly lying about them having weapons of mass destruction and
everything.
And of course, that was never true.
But in how back then there was no resistance to it at all.
And I feel like that is an important piece of context.
It makes a little more, I don't know if interesting is the right word this time around.
But, you know, and obviously you guys know.
And remember in 2003, it was a very bloodlusty time in America.
Like, peace was out.
It was not a big time for being pro peace in 2003.
And I know there was some opposition to it, but right on the right was 100% you've not.
Because like we wanted vengeance and even though they had nothing to do with it, it didn't matter.
But none of that is happening right here in this scenario.
And like you said earlier, more than half of MAGA is against this.
And I think I think you're right.
I think there's polling that, you know, indicates that too.
I think most Americans do not want this to happen.
And I don't, you know, I'm a dyed in the wool lefty.
I don't really get what the problem is even supposed to be with like agreeing with the other side on,
Especially something like, we're talking about war, maybe World War III.
Like, you can't, you can't come together on something like that just because of, like, whatever, political affiliation or just not feeling comfortable with it.
Like, I don't, like, I don't get that.
I feel like anyone who's got any sense should speak out against this particular situation.
And, you know, politics aside.
And if we, the people who agree on that, you're allowed to agree.
And that's, that's okay.
It's war.
It's bad.
Like, let's go.
And the right wing would be joined.
us in an anti-war protests, we're kind of known for anti-war protests.
Right.
It's not like we didn't invent it, right?
Right.
So united against war.com.
We'll have the link in the description box.
We've got to take a break.
We'll come back, talk more about some of the specifics of the war, both the actual war and the maga-civil war.
We'll be right back.
The moment an Iranian missile in Biasheba this morning.
Inside panic and chaos as doctors and patients fled to the bomb shelters.
This is the largest medical facility in the south. The emergency medical facility in the south, the
The emergency room was operational at the time of the attack, but they were only minor injuries.
Israel is now promising revenge after the Iranian missile that you saw talked about in that video.
Did in fact hit one of the country's largest hospitals, as they acknowledged thankfully and perhaps miraculously considering how damaging the attack looked in that case.
There were no fatalities as a result of it, although there were some injuries.
In the larger conflict, though, there has been a number of deaths.
Human rights groups estimate that 639 Iranians and 24 Israelis have been killed since Israel
launched this war just about a week ago. And in the context of this particular hospital,
one might wonder, why is that being targeted by Iran? Well, they say, or at least the official
Iranian news agency says, that Iran was targeting the headquarters of the IDF's elite technological
unit and an intelligence camp about a mile from the hospital, which Israel says is BS. They use a different
term, that's basically what they mean. And I mean, it was a mile away, which means that
either it's BS or their aim is not particularly good. In any event, Israel's promising to punish
not only Iran, but perhaps directly the leader for this. The Minister of Defense for Israel
accused Iran of war crimes of the most serious kind and said that the Ayatollah individually should
be held accountable for his crime, saying the prime minister and I instructed the IDF to increase
the intensity of the attacks against strategic targets in Iran and against government targets
in Tehran in order to remove the threats against the state of Israel and undermine the regime
of the Ayatollahs. So just bear in mind that while the narrative, the logline of the war is
that it's supposed to stop the nuclear program of Iran from the very beginning, and now they're
just stating it, it's attempting to undermine the regime and to murder the members of their government,
to be very clear. Now, they are saying that attacking a hospital is a crime, is a war crime,
which I agree on. And in this particular case, Benjamin Netanyahu appears to agree. Take a look.
I think it says everything about Israel and about Iran. Israel is fighting to remove the nuclear
missile threat aimed at our annihilation. We're targeting military sites. We're targeting
nuclear sites. We're targeting missile sites. They're targeting a hospital. In this,
In this hospital, their patients are immobile, they can't even move.
Right next to it, there's a children's ward, a baby's ward, infants.
They target it.
I think striking a hospital is always wrong, and we have perhaps I guess in comparison
to some the luxury here at the Young Turks to condemn it in all cases.
Unfortunately, the gentleman that you just saw in that video doesn't do that.
He says it tells you everything you need to know that they targeted a hospital.
Well then I ask him, does it tell you everything?
we need to know about Israel that you have targeted hospitals in Gaza constantly over the past
two years. In fact, according to the World Health Organization, there have been 697 attacks
on healthcare services in Gaza since October 23. I think it's terrible that Iran hit this one
hospital with this one missile and thank God nobody died. I think it's 697 times worse that
Israel has repeatedly done it over and over and over again. And unfortunately,
there were no miracles in those cases and many people died, many civilians died, many children,
many infants died. And I didn't see a video like that from Netanyahu after each of those
attacks or ever, once, ever about the fact that the hospitals and medical facilities had been
targeted. As of right now, only 19 of Gaza's 36 hospitals remain operational, including one
hospital providing basic care for the remaining patients. They're struggling under severe supply
shortages, lack of health workers, many obviously have been murdered, persistent insecurity
and a surge of casualties, all while staff work in impossible conditions, often without water,
without electricity. Of the 19 hospitals, 12 provide a variety of health services while the rest
are only able to provide basic emergency care. 94% of all hospitals in Gaza are damaged or destroyed.
And this right here, if we bring up this graphic, this is a list of alleged IDF attacks on Gaza hospitals.
That's from April to June of this year, many, many months into the conflict, still many, many attacks on these hospitals.
And to pull at your heartstrings, and I understand why it would as the father of a young child.
And then Netanyahu in that video said that there's a ward for babies in that hospital.
And so you should be even angrier at Iran, which you should.
But unfortunately, again, very routine during this conflict for Israel to attack Gaza maternity wards.
And as I said, I have a really young kid.
So I mean, I kind of don't even want to read some of these graphics.
But in November of 2023, the IDF forced staff out of a pediatric intensive care unit at the Al-Nassar Children's Hospital to evacuate as they attacked northern Gaza.
People went in with cameras two weeks later after the hospital was evacuated, and video appeared to show at least three of five dead infants with the bodies putrefying in close proximity to catheters and ventilators.
One baby is seen decomposing while lying alone, appearing to still be connected to an oxymator with a green oxygen tank nearby as insects appear to crawl on its chest.
Those particular babies were not killed by the bombardment, although many, many, many have been.
They were totally voluntarily killed by the IDF soldiers forcing the doctors to leave them there.
That was a totally optional thing that they chose to do.
And no videos from Benjamin Netanyahu.
No, this tells you everything you need to know about a government or its military.
Man, I'm trying super hard not to hold it against Israeli civilians who at this late juncture are 80% in favor of continuing to kill people in Gaza.
Okay, but I'm a much better person than they are.
So no, I will not ever hold it against civilians.
And I hate that Iran hit this hospital.
I think it's terrible.
And I don't want any hospitals hit.
I don't want any civilians killed.
Now let's talk about the massive hypocrisy of not just Israel, but the American media.
So I've heard in American media now dozens of times of 24 people have been killed in Israel,
civilians.
Again, that's a tragedy.
And I don't say that glibly, it really is.
And by the way, that's why they should be furious at their government for starting this war
and thinking, so what?
Probably a whole bunch of our citizens will die.
But it helps Netanyahu's career.
So we're going to start this war?
Okay, how many times have you heard that 263 Iranian civilians have been killed?
Oh, but they're just Muslim lives.
Oh my god, some kids were injured in this. Well, that's terrible. I don't want any kids getting injured.
17,000 kids have been killed in Gaza. 17,000. How often do you hear that on American news?
You can, when an Israeli is victimized, that is headline news, gigantic news.
Palestinian and Iranians killed, who cares?
They're just Muslim, right?
Do we really have to pretend to care?
No, apparently you don't.
You don't have to pretend to care at all.
And this is not like, well, I mean, Iran had a coming.
I know there's 263 of their civilians, men, women, and children were killed by Israel.
But hey, they had it coming because they started.
Oh, no, right.
Israel started the war. But it doesn't matter, no sympathy for Muslims ever, ever, ever.
against Muslims for our entire lives with every goddamn broadcast we ever did on cable news.
Is that book coming, Jake?
Okay, again, CBS News reports, this was, Israel is saying this was an 800-pound bomb.
That's a giant bomb to drop in the middle of a city.
I condemn Iran for that.
Israel has dropped countless 2,000-pound bombs.
One and a half times the size of the one that they dropped on, that Iran dropped once.
And they're like, this is an outrage.
But when you say that and you say it is not an outrage to drop endless 2,000 pound bombs
in the middle of Palestinian cities, what you're saying is, I don't care about Muslim lives
at all.
We're allowed to murder them as much as we like.
Okay, now you say, hey, Jang, murder's a strong word.
You should reserve that only when Muslims do killings.
Then it's murder and slaughter and terrorists and savage and dirty, right?
When Israel does it, oh, it was such an accident.
Was it?
Because you just heard the stats that John read to you.
17 hospitals completely leveled by.
So did they miss over and over and over and over?
Because you can't just destroy a hospital with one bomb.
They had to level those hospitals.
They missed that many times.
Are they the most incompetent military in the history of the world?
They accidentally destroyed or damaged 94% of the hospitals in Gaza.
Is there ever, has there ever been in military that deeply incompetent?
Of course not.
No, whenever they want to, they could pick off any Iranian scientist, diplomat,
politician, general.
They can kill all of Hezbollah at once.
They can kill them anywhere they like.
But oh, did we accidentally bomb and destroy all of your hospitals?
But you should feel tremendous sympathy for me because one bomb got dropped on an Israeli hospital.
And I do have sympathy for those people.
But then they demand that we have no sympathy for the tens of thousands that they murdered,
obviously on purpose.
And now after being in the middle of this genocide, they start a war with Iran, and then
they say, but we've had some people injured, so we demand the world's tears because we are
the victims.
Brothers and sisters, those civilians who got hit in the hospital are victims.
And your heart should break for them because they're normal, regular people.
They're not politicians, they're not the leaders of that country.
But when the Israeli government leaders tell me to be have concerns for them, that's
preposterous, no, I have no sympathy for Netanyahu, Ben Gavir Smotrich, who are genocidal
maniacs, it's like saying, some German civilians got killed, you have to have sympathy
for Goebbels and Hitler and no, I don't, no I don't, no I don't at all, zero.
Did I just compare them?
Yes, I did.
If you don't want to be compared to them, maybe you shouldn't do a genocide, maybe you shouldn't
start a war. I know, I know. Israel special rules. They're allowed to murder, genocide, attack,
and we all have to bow our heads. No, I do not bow my head. Israel is 100% wrong for starting
this war. 100%. And every Israeli civilian that gets killed is 100% the fault of Benjamin Netanyahu.
Wait, if you say, oh, that's not fair, you're blaming the victim. Every time somebody said,
Hey, Israel is killing tens of thousands of kids here and innocent civilians.
They said, Hamas started it, it's all Hamas's fault.
Okay, Israel started it.
So that means it is definitely Netanyahu's fault for every Israeli civilian killed.
It was a terrorist Netanyahu that is the root cause of those deaths.
That's Israeli logic, that is Netanyahu logic.
And I know a lot of people will say yes, Jenk, but you're missing the central point.
Israeli lives are super precious and valuable, as all human lives should be.
But Muslim lives are useless and are expendable.
And you could just murder their children and the American press will pretend you're the victim.
Go ahead, Troy.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, you know, how much I can even add to it.
I agree with you guys about, you know, taking the apparently, you know,
sadly controversial to some American stance that bombing hospitals is always bad and should not happen.
That's also I feel about it.
But yeah, so me, the thing I saw when I saw the response,
me it the thing I thought when I saw the response to it from Israel
and what Netanyahu said was just like, I mean, my God, the audacity.
I can't imagine the shameless audacity of that.
It's like they say, oh, Iran, they've crossed the line here.
This is a war crime.
And it's like, y'all are the most habitually line crossing people in the war crime game.
And everybody knows it.
Like, what are you talking about?
It reminds me of like, and obviously this is on a much, much lower scale, but it's the type of thing, like, when over here when, like how a lot of conservatives, just when they talk about the left, they'll just gleefully bandy about, like, homophobic slurs, even racial slurs. It calls like cucks and libtards and all that. And then in response, you're like, screw you fascist. And they're like, oh, wow, name calling. Really? Okay. Okay. If you want to take it there. It's like that type of thing just makes you pull your hair out, the hypocrisy of it all. But, I mean, Jane.
I mean, you're, you know, you're right about everything you said about the assessment of it.
It's like to some people and they wouldn't say it this exact way, maybe, although some of them might.
But it's like internally, they're like, yeah, well, but see, but this is worse because these are like, see, these are good people.
You know, they're on the side of the west.
This is Israel.
These are good people that are being killed.
And then when they do it, you know, those people are, well, you know what I mean?
They're just not, there's not as, you know, and it's like, yes, they're poor, they're brown, they're Muslim, all that stuff that people just don't, don't care about as much. But, and it's, it's a shame. But I just don't know how Israel feels like they have a leg to stand on in this situation. Because the other thing, as you pointed out, like, also you started it. Like, it wouldn't even have happened if you hadn't, you know, made the initial attack in the first place, which, by the way, on that note, when that happened, I was like, my God, do y'all not have enough on your plate?
already? Like, I feel like, like, you're not getting enough, you know, your murder it scratched
enough or something. Because, like, I thought you guys were pretty busy. Now you're starting
some stuff over here with these, but, you know, you do that. They respond. And then you cry about it.
I just, I don't have a lot of sympathy for them. I also have sympathy for the civilians, like you
guys said, but Israel, the entity and its leadership and all that. It's like, I'm just not trying
to hear it, really. Yeah. Okay. I can't help but add a couple things. First of all, Trey,
Greater Israel isn't going to build itself.
Okay, they got to get busy, right?
And so those maps are in their cabinet room.
I mean, they're not hiding the fact that these are aggressive imperial wars meant to seize Arab land.
And if they have to kill a whole bunch of Arabs and Persians to do it, well, greater Israel's got to get built.
I mean, that is such an important, important policy for America.
Wait, what does America have to do with it?
But no, we have to fund all of it.
Okay, Iran says the Israeli intelligence building was behind the hospital.
John pointed out, it might have been like a mile behind the hospital.
So on the other hand, Israel said, oh, we had to get hit the first hospital they hit.
They were like, we had to.
They got tunnels underneath.
So they brought in Trey Yinks from Fox News.
And he looked and he's like, it's not underneath the hospital at all.
It's all the way over there, right?
They said, nope, nope, it counts, it counts, good enough.
Human shields, so it was okay that we murdered them, it's Hamas's fault.
Is Israel using human shields?
I mean, that's not my logic, that's Israeli logic.
They say if a military facility is anywhere near a hospital, you're allowed to murder everyone in the hospital.
That's not my logic, I hate that logic.
But they say I could destroy the whole hospital, I could kill everyone in it.
I could leave babies to die in that hospital because, hey, there was a,
tunnel a whole, you know, couple of blocks away from the hospital.
It seems like the Iranian and Israeli logic matched pretty well.
Last piece of Israeli logic, they say, no, we didn't kill any of the 56,000 people in Gaza.
Hamas did, why?
Because they started the war.
And if you start the war, then you're responsible for every single death, including on your side.
Not my logic, that's Israel's logic.
So since they 100% started this war, every death in Israel is on Netanyahu's head.
And there's no question about that.
They can't say, well, they can't say.
And they probably will say.
Well, yes, but you're right, but I get it.
But on the other hand, these are Israeli lives.
So they're super important.
And those are Muslim lives.
And we get to murder Muslims all we want.
Anti-Semite.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
You say you get to murder any Muslims you like.
And then when we point out that fact, then you say, oh, it's anti-Semitic to point out that a government's leader has ordered the murder of over 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza, and has destroyed all of their hospitals, has thorough war and created a genocide.
No, no. Netanyahu and everyone who supports him is deeply hateful, racist, bigots, okay? Two can play at that game.
and we're actually accurate as opposed to the Israeli supporters.
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
We'll come right back.
Columbia University graduate student Mahmoud Khalil from the immigrant detention center
where he's been held since early March. This is U.S. District Judge Michael Farbiars,
who said it was highly, highly unusual for the government to continue to detain a legal
U.S. resident who was unlikely to flee and hadn't been accused of any violence. He said
Khalil is likely not a flight risk and quote is not a danger to the community, period,
full stop. And to be clear, he has not just not been accused of any violence. He hasn't been accused of
of any crimes.
The official line from the government is, they find the positions he has on the genocide
so distasteful that he has to be locked up for months.
He has been locked up in jail for almost four months because Trump doesn't like his position
on the war, that's it.
His positions are so crucially politically incorrect that he had to be locked up and kept away
from the public because he might infect them with his anti-war position.
In any event, this comes after several other scholars have been targeted for their activism.
They've also been released, but earlier than Mahmoud Khalil, who was the first, who was seized during this spate of censorship.
You have a former Palestinian student at Columbia, Mossan Mahdawi, a Tufts university student, Ramesa Azturk, and a Georgetown university scholar Badr Khan Suri, who all were detained and all were ordered to be released.
And obviously Khalil finally being released was seen as good news by his wife, who has been, you know, away from her partner for a third of a year now for absolutely nothing.
She says, we know this ruling does not begin to address the injustices the Trump administration has brought upon our family and so many others.
But today we are celebrating Mahmoud coming back to New York to be reunited with our little family.
And that is good news.
assuming the Trump administration actually abides by the ruling, we'll have to see.
Yeah, John, the only bone I have to pick with you is your headline was a little wrong.
It's Israeli hostage released inside America.
So it was donors who want America to serve Israel that ordered the arrest of Mahmoud Halil.
There's no other reason to arrest them.
And this judge, by the way, if you think, oh, it buys liberal judge.
No, he's the one that said in the first round.
No, they have a right to detain him and deport him if they can prove their case.
So at the time, people are like, oh, maybe he's a pro-Trump judge, right?
No, he's like, no, you got to show me the evidence.
So they bring him in.
And he's like, okay, give me evidence of any violent act he did.
Oh, we don't have any.
Okay, how about property destruction?
We don't have any.
Okay, how about any crime?
We don't have any.
So then why to hell did you arrest them?
And they're like, ah, it could be that maybe there was a problem on his visa.
Yeah, but what do you mean maybe there was a problem in this visa?
Is there a problem in his visa?
We're not going to present any evidence.
It's like, well, then yeah, if you arrest the guy for absolutely no reason, yes, you have to release him.
That's our laws in America.
It's not complicated.
This is like the easiest case he's ever had to deal with.
When the government presents zero evidence of any crime, no, you can't keep him.
But the government says, but to be fair, he has criticized beloved Israel.
And remember when we burned our constitution and got rid of the First Amendment, or actually just crossed it out, you have freedom of speech, unless you criticize Israel, in which case you'll be locked up because APAC gave hundreds of millions of dollars to our congresspeople and to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Donald Trump.
But to be fair to Biden, he didn't do this and he wouldn't, as terrible as Biden was, as he was an enabler.
of genocide and paid for a genocide.
He didn't go the extra mile of saying, I'll end freedom of speech in America on behalf
of Israel, that was Donald Trump.
So thank God for the American court system, thank God we're a democracy and a constitutional
republic.
So the judge said, no, you have to let that Israeli hostage go.
He didn't do anything wrong.
And yes, he does have freedom of speech in America, Trey.
Yeah, I mean, this, you know, at least he finally is getting out, but the fact that this
happen and can last this long. I mean, he spent months in there for literally nothing. It should be
alarming to everybody. I mean, I get cheeky sometimes and joke about it. Like, oh, yeah, you know,
I'm going to end up in the gulag one day if this keeps up or whatever. And it's like, obviously,
it's a little different. I'm a white guy from Tennessee, but still, like, I mean, they really
have ripped up the Constitution to make political prisoners out of people who say things that
they don't like. And there's people, you know, I guarantee you there's plenty of people who
would tell you they are in part Trump supporters because, you know what, they're free speech
absolutists. That had a whole argument who yet will twist themselves in a nods trying to justify
this or just ignoring it and pretending it doesn't happen. But this is like, this type of thing
is scary. It's the type of thing you should, you would hope wouldn't be imaginable in this
country if it actually worked the way it purports to. And clearly it doesn't, in particular
under this regime. So again, so ultimately, at least so far, unless they just, you know,
decide to ignore this or do something even worse, seems like the right thing happened at the end
of the day at least, but it took way too long and should have never even, you know, needed
to happen in the first place. So it's bad. Yeah. And Mahmoud Halila and his family should sue
the government of Israel. Yes. You're allowed to sue terrorist organizations to get compensation.
And Israel, you know, having destroyed almost every hospital in Gaza, having destroyed almost
everything in Gaza, having murdered over 50,000 people, having murdered over 17,000 kids is obviously
a terrorist state.
And they have intentionally murdered those people.
And we've shown it a time again and again and again.
And now they're coming to kidnap people on our streets through our corrupt dirtbag politicians.
And so Trump should be sued.
And if you're MAGA, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm a free speech.
Absolutely, it's like Trey said, but he's an immigrant.
Oh, I hate immigrants.
So let's just get rid of our freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech is for America, everyone in America.
The Supreme Court has ruled out for 200 years straight.
If you let Israel kill freedom of speech for people who are here legally,
that means you're killing it for US citizens.
Even if you don't care about immigrants, that means you're killing it for US citizens,
on behalf of a foreign government.
Okay, now, if you don't get that,
that and you say no, he shouldn't be allowed to criticize Israel. No, Israel should rule us.
And Israel should be allowed to kidnap anyone they like off an American street for criticizing
beloved Israel. You're criticizing a genocide? It's like the Germans having us arrest people
who are opposed to the Holocaust here in America. Oh, he criticized the German government.
He criticized the German government. He has no business here. Lock him up. Did he do anything
wrong? No, but he criticized the Germans. I mean, all they're doing is a Holocaust.
Oh my God, are you offended? Are you offended? I'm 10,000 times more offended at the 17,000
dead Palestinian kids. But no, I know, mustering up. Oh, no, I care. I care about the Palestinians
who died. I care. I mean, I don't care as much as you offending me. Your words are problematic.
Let's lock them up. Let's lock them up. Let's go. Let's go. Israel, take more hostages
in America. And thank God the courts are stopping it. And so Trump's a total.
And total and utter joke on freedom of speech and America first.
That guy didn't even criticize America.
And by the way, no one's gotten arrested for criticizing America.
You can criticize America all day, all night, as by the way you should be allowed to, freedom of speech.
But you criticize Israel, you're gonna be in a lot of trouble in this country.
This is insanity.
I didn't, my family moved here.
We didn't move to Israel.
We moved here because we love America.
If we knew that it was going to be controlled by Israel, I don't know that we are we telling
everybody that?
This is America, but our politicians all work for Israel.
God damn it, man, if you're America first, you should hate this more than anyone else.
For God's sake, man, kidnapping people off the streets for criticizing a foreign government.
Imagine if we did this for any other country.
Oh, that guy criticized Saudi Arabia.
I mean, Saudi Arabia chopped up an American journalist, right?
That's it.
Saudi Arabia is now giving money to Trump or Biden or whoever and to all our corrupt crooks like Ted Cruz, et cetera.
That's it, round up all the Saudi critics.
You say that's insanity.
Are you crazy?
We're going to round up Saudi critics?
And you wouldn't say, well, oh, he's an immigrant.
He's a legal resident here, but he's an immigrant.
So let's make sure we'd lock him, take him hostage for Saudi Arabia.
Nobody would say that.
Why are we having a conversation about it with Israel?
Can we please stop following the orders of Israel?
Is that too much to ask for?
And if you say they're not giving us orders, you're hilarious.
Hilarious.
No, I know.
This guy was attacking Norway, right?
It was about health care.
It was about Peru.
What was it about?
Harsh words for Switzerland.
Yeah.
Why did Easter get arrested?
Oh, she wrote an op-ed against who?
Against who?
Oh, Israel, but don't say Israel. Don't say Israel. I'm saying it. They pay our politicians.
Our politicians are crooks and work for a foreign government.
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Check out Trey Crowder and his comedy. Thank you guys.
Obviously, I'm worked up with war and all the things that are going on.
Okay, we'll come back. We'll tell you about the Civil War inside Maga.
I don't know.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to be.
I don't know.
Thank you.